From the Skying In Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello, and welcome to the show. You just had a big weekend, mostly in the backyard, and it've had fantastic Oh you got the head strimmer out, I've got the blower. I've got three different blowers. Why not just get it all done? And then a storm rolls in and it doesn't really matter. But also if I seem a little depleted tonight, it's
because I cried so many dad years this weekend. Oh my goodness, my two little girls at a beautiful little concert put on by the music group that they work with. And shout out to Kylie and Rodger, who I know watch us each and every night they put it together. I'll show you some photos tomorrow night. But oh, when you see your kids sing and dance, unbelievable, right and just yet, just a beautiful experience. So I hope you
had a wonderful weekend as well. Let's get on with the news that we need to know about here, including strength and love to everyone dealing with bushfires right now, it's only a fringe of bushfires, and they were in the sort of outskirts in Victoria. But again, as always were all disasters comen, doesn't matter whether it's the height of summer or the depths of winter. We talk about it and we lead our show because we have maximum sympathy for the people whose lives are turned upside down
by this stuff. Here's the CFA talking about it today in Victoria. If you haven't prepared for summer, now is the time.
To do so, because, as we saw yesterday, when fires do start and spread quite rapidly, they can do so with minimum morning in time.
Now, obviously the weather's been a little while. Some places have been a little hotter than usual, most places have been nowhere near it. What are we a couple of weeks away from the formal start of summer and there are no real signs of it coming yet, So exactly when is it going to start to make the turn towards being warmer. I don't just say that in relation
to bushfires. I just said in the relation to all of us packing away the long pants, pulling out the flip flops, or the slides in my case after losing a toe when I was a very little boy. Well, we get some information from the Bureau, and the Bureau has put forward a couple of little insights into what might be happening in the next little while. Well, Channel Line this one up, so I'm taking from their information here is that the good news is that the temperatures
are expected to be nice and warm. The bad though, is there'll be plenty of rain. This is what we know about the summer forecast. Now much of the country, including the entire East Coast, Victoria's South Coast, Tasmania, the West Coast and Darwin surround, so pretty much all of Australia have a greater than seventy percent chance of hitting above median maximum temperatures. Now, that does not mean it's going to be any fifty degrees everywhere. It just means
it's going to be a little warmer. When it is particularly warmer, I have a look at the map here. The rhetoric gets the more likely it is that you're going to be above average. Now, remember median is not the same as average. Median is literally the number between the coldest day and the hottest day, and the median being that middle number. Whether the middle number is going to be higher or grossly higher. Now, obviously the rhetoric gets the greater the chances of that median number being
warmer than it was last summer. Another one here though, which is about fifty percent. There's actually less than fifty percent chance of maximums hitting most of the country. So yeah, it's going to be warm, but don't expect super warm for super long. We'll get an official indication about the summer forecast in a couple of weeks time, but I just wanted to give you a little idea. And also when it comes to rain, you should know that rainfall
is sixty to eighty percent likely. It's said to be above average for much of Eastern Australia, particularly in and around Sydney, Central Coast, South Coast and maybe into the mid North and North Coast there. But basically you can see on the map there that well, the darker the green, the more chance of rain. Surprise, surprise, the closer you get towards the equator, it is going to be a wet summer, so warmth is on its way. It will not be a scorching summer. There will be rain like
it was a few years ago. But as I mentioned before, while I took great fun cleaning up the yard this weekend, police do so when it comes to your gutters because we know Ember attack, all the rest of it. Do everything you can to make your joint safe so that on the off chance something crazy happens, your house will not be one we'll be talking about in the weeks and months to come. But let's get to politics, which is always red hot. Prime Minister is overseas again. This
time he's at the APEC summit. The ye well and' do you like that? Oh that's quite funny. Sorry, where they were wearing the crazy shirts. They just had a crazy scarf this time. As you know, the Prime Minister gave an interview Andrew Clonell today where he kind of dropped himself in it. The election will be at the very last minute, which would be May of next year.
We have a budget scheduled for March and the election will be in May. The speculation may well, that's when it's due. It could be beforehand, but that will be a matter for me to make in conjunction with my cabinet colleagues.
Geez, you'd love to play poker with display, wouldn't he. I'd love to even play uno with him? Or oh May, oh no, no, no, not May not May. But this Prime Minister is in a world of trouble. Now, there's lots of ways to look at it. You can look at his approval rating, which is lower than it was when he, of course took over, and it is now beneath where Peter Dutton is. Right now, Australia seems like on multiple poles they're ready to make a change after just three
years of this government. But just as it was in the United States when people were surprised by the margin by which Donald Trump was able to win, it's not really a surprise that the most unpopular vice president lost in a condition where seventy five percent of people said the country was headed in the wrong direction. Now Australia is not in that dramatic position, but the majority of Australians think the joint is headed in the wrong direction.
Two poles, the Morgan pole and the Essential pole, both show more than fifty percent, almost sixty percent in the Morgan pole. Soy, we're headed in the wrong direction or we're headed on the wrong track. But guess what number they have exactly the same, not even a third of the country, just thirty percent think that we are headed in the right direction. Now, a government wanting to go for reelection is in an awful position when it is fighting with less than a third of people behind them
going into that election. And it really doesn't matter what happens between now and May. In many ways, things may be starting to be baked in now the Prime minister, who we know is going to hold on to Kevin Rudd. More on that in a second, But he was hardly trying to move away from people who were either proven losers or are assumed to be losers in a wave of change that is making its way around the world. Lots of cuddles for Joe Biden and even Justin Trudeau.
Anyone paying attention to Canadian politics knows how unpopular he is at the moment. But big cuddles. Let's all pretend nothing's changed. Let's all pretend the politics of four years
ago is the same politics as today. And we know that this prime minister's political fortunes well, they completely took a tumble when he decided to spend the best part of half a billion dollars on the Voice campaign, where he was distracted for an entire year trying to earn a spot in history and to buff up his Wikipedia page. But we all know what this country said and it
was sixty percent. No, he has never recovered since. And just give you an idea about again the priorities of a bloke who I don't think is either match fit for an election or is making his case that he has either learnt the lessons of the failure of his term in office or try to meet the people where they are. Australia looks like we are set for another distraction.
The federal government is going to work in tandem with the South Australian government to try to bid for a United Nations climate conference, the same ones that are playing out right now on the other side of the world. The suggestion is that Adelaide would be the place where they would like it to be. Turkey is trying to bid, just like it's for the Olympics, but just like a Sydney denied Istanbul all those years ago the two thousand
Olympic Games. The hope would be that we will somehow beat Turkey for the chance to invite a collection of Turkeys to Australia Adelaide, specifically to talk about how terrible the planet is now. Of course, Australia is one percent of global emissions, yet according to the Global conferences which have taken place. This government has signed us up to paying millions of dollars to developing countries, Developing countries like China.
China alone thirty three percent of global emissions. China, of course, had their handout last week saying that they deserve part of one point eight t for trillion dollars from the Western world advanced countries, polluting countries like Australia while they pollute far more for far longer, and even under the Paris Agreement, which now is worthless because we know Trump will tear it up as he did between his time in office last time, he will do it again for
the next four years. That China doesn't have to do anything about its pollution until twenty thirty. Remember, they can continue at thirty three percent of global emissions. They can make it fifty percent if they want, and it's only at that March that they will be marked against before they have to start moving things down. Oh yeah, and twenty fifty doesn't apply to them because they're a developing country.
You know, with the space station and plans to set up a moon base, they are able to have a twenty sixty net zero target, not a twenty fifty like countries like Australia, the United States, the UK, New Zealand and Canada have to look at So what does it tell you about the priorities of this government that spent a year distracting us with the issues to do with the voice that they are planning and the lead up to the next election, to be distracting us again when
it comes to climate change and suggesting that Australia should be hosting a global conference, a global conference that, by the way, the Prime Minister didn't attend this year and didn't attend last year. So if it's a conference that's so important that we should host it, could somebody explain what the Prime Minister hasn't been to the last two of three that have happened on his watch. It's all about priorities and we know this bloke is nowhere near
where Middle Australia is. Which brings us to the number one issue, that of course is always cost of living, has been for the best part of three years. For those who remember the ups and downs of the twenty twenty two election campaign that brought this government to power, it was all about cost of living. Remember the promise that a labor government would lower the cost of living. This was their promise the best part of three years ago,
and of course they have failed on every measure. Everything in the supermarket costs more than before they came to office. Your power bills are worth way more, despite the fact that they promised that it would be fixed by now and we'd be making our way towards two hundred and seventy five dollars off, not not at one off, totally
off your power bills. The cost of insurance and petrol has gone up by huge amounts since they came to power, not to mention twelve interest rate rises which had made it so possible for people to hold on to properties, and they've had to cut back in any number of areas. Don't forget this is also the government while all of that was happening, decided to increase taxes on ten million people.
Before they came to power, you could get an automatic fifteen hundred dollars tax return, and more than thirty five percent of Australians rely upon their tax return to be able to pay some of the big bills that they have accrued in the previous year. Remember fifteen hundred dollars gone this government made that decision. But apparently the Labor Party has worked out who to blame for everything that has gone wrong on their watch despite promising for everything
to get better on their watch. Peter Dutton, you may well have heard today that again there is about to be a new scare campaign auga booga music, black and white photos with the suggestion that you'll be worse off under Dutton. Now this is their sort of cleverer version of it won't be easy under our easy, but the reality was that that claim was correct in twenty twenty two, and then pretending that if you vote for Dutton then
a whole series of things are going to increase. While supermarkets, food, power bills, cars, petrol, insurance and paying off a house or renting one is way more than it was since they came to power, then this is a pretty pretty wild swing they're going to take while simultaneously distracting you that despite the fact that climate change is not the top order political issue in the most recent American election, remember, less than three percent of people said that it was
their number one issue. I know that plenty of people will say that it should always remain the top issue, but it just isn't. It just isn't for people right now, especially when we're one percent of the world's problem. China's thirty three percent of the world's problem. And their solution is, oh, weish you have a big talk fest in this country that the Prime Minister has deemed not important enough to attend this year or last year he went the year before,
because of course he wasn't Scott Morrison. But there is also a wiyh that people are already starting to explain the economy that should be better by now about why it isn't and if it gets worse, it's definitely not their responsibility. Multiple news organizations this week have been running the scare campaign that Donald Trump is the reason why your home loan, which has gone up by thousands of dollars twelve interrastraight rises could still stay high, the reason
that everything in the shops will still stay high. It's all going to be Trump's fault. What a convenient little excuse. Now, remember this government has also said that war in the Middle East was a reason why inflation was high, but of course war in the Middle East, if that was the case, would explain why America's inflation is lower than ours, the UK's is lower than ours. No, of course not. It's all just about changing the subject. This government on
every front, every time finds someone else to blame. There is a point in time when the Australian public will just not buy it. And while the big caveat that I always say about this not being a one term government is how many of the teals will hold on to their seats If this wasn't nor more election than yeah, you probably would be talking about a one term government.
The number one issue Australians believe this government has not done enough action on the press Gallery doesn't want to talk about their decision to increase taxes by fifteen hundred dollars on ten million workers. They think that if there's one interest rate reduction somehow that will make you forget about the twelve ones that went up before one comes
ever so slightly down. Just like the American population didn't care when they were being told that everything is awesome because there is a number coming out of Washington, I'm not sure that people are going to feel the same. Are not going to feel any different in this country when they keep being told by people in Canberra that
everything is awesome and everything is better. But speaking of miss priorities, Parliament's back this week and guess what they're going to be talking about as Parliament returns for the next two weeks, the final two weeks of the years. She's going to be good to be aup Pont logician. Isn't it three pay rises that they have got during this term of parliament and their work effectively ends before
December starts. Now, last time Parliament was there and they were trying to distract from the upgrade elbow scandal, which still hurts the Prime Minister even though he flies on one of two brand new private jets, but of course they were ordered under the previous government, so they couldn't possibly cancel. It was that they passed a law to guarantee that the NBN would never be sold. It was never for sale, no one was planning to buy it. But of course they turned around and this was a
way of distracting everyone for twenty four hours. And guess what, you've even forgotten the distraction, which means that distraction wasn't particularly effective. It just was their attempt to not talk about upgrade albow in question time for a couple of days. Well, still in the communications field. The big priority for the next two weeks is not going to be doing anything about cost of living, it said, it's going to be
about censoring the Internet. Now, you know, I've been banging on about this for the best part now a couple of years, because you know what the consequences of this are the federal government deciding what is or isn't allowed for you to be able to post on social media, and then effectively the pester power of these social media companies being fined for what the government believes to be misinformation as defined by far left wing fact checkers, as
policed by an e Safety commissioner who of course was trying to tell Elon Musk that videos that were seen around the world could not be seen in Australia. This is again a distraction. You see what I love here is that the federal government that's going to turn around and say that the next election could be lost because of lies on the internet was completely fine when those lies were being spread by the Labor Party many years ago.
Of course, when it was about the sale of Medicare, or the lies in the Queensland election which were all about abortion, many ads about those paid for by political parties know what they want is for you not to be able to see comments like this. They want to deny you the capacity to take a link from sky
news dot com. That are you to post it on your Facebook page, to put it out on x or to amplify it in whatever social media platform that you are because despite the fact that, as always I show you the data and then we put our opinion on top of the data, they won't care because they'll find somebody else to find their homework, and a completely separate set of data will somehow disprove everything that I have used as the data to make my points, which are
often wild right wing think tanks like the Australian Bureau of Statistics. It's why I try to quote government figures while pointing out the lies that the politicians in the government talk about. Well, this thing was pulled towards the end of last year because the first version of it, well it's stunk. Apparently the second version stinks less. But everyone who are posed it the first time now opposes it the second time. There will be a vote on
it in the Senate in the next two weeks. Now, as it seems there is a great want to censor the Internet. And I've said many times, don't fall for this misinformation tag. It's about censoring the Internet, and I'm pleased the good people who make the cartoons for Paul Enhansen use that exact term in this week's ripper of a cartoon.
You see Adam ask government to make control over the mainstream media for years. But oh no, everybody at start making podcasts and youtubes and thinking for themselves. Banabo. We're just the Australian government. How were supposed to sensor the entire Internet? It's easy, Adam, meet Julie the e Safety Commissioner.
Blucked delete Julie, good news.
I'm juilly teening debate and rushing through the Misinformation Bill under everyone's nose. This congratulations. We're giving you all the powers of the government and more said, to the Internet and label everything we don't like it's misinformation. Got my pretty go go.
It's a ripper Jay the full two minutes. But obviously we've got other things to get to. I'll make sure I post it on our Facebook page while we have the time, or you can go and find it for yourself on YouTube, which is of course Pullen Hanson's Please explain, Well, it all comes down to the Senate. The Senate has had its debate, had its inquiry, and now it's time to have its vote. So let's get into the mats here because in the end, that's all it's going to matter.
They need thirty nine votes to censor the Internet. If all of the Labor Party, including the President of the Senate plus the Greens vote, which they will, that's thirty six. They need thirty nine. There are five left wing cross bench votes, which means if all of them voted with the government, this thing would pass, and pass pretty easily. But I've got some good news for you. You can
start to strike some numbers off that number five. David Pocock, no, Tammy Tyrell, no Fatima Payman, no, Jackie Lamby no. So that would of course mean that there are four of the five that are gone, meaning this thing's dead. Right. Well, there is a different way this could happen Lydia Thorpe of course still up for grabs. We'll find out what she has to say. If she says no, then this thing is absolutely dead on arrival. But if she is able to vote with the Greens, and that gets them
and the Labour Party to thirty seven? They need two more. So where are the smokies? David Van is the former Liberal senator who is now an independent senator. There is no expectation of him being re elected. What could be offered in exchange for his vote? And I don't suggest that in a corrupt fashion. I just mean politicians always want one thing, so they do a deal over here to do a deal over there. So is there a scenario where David Van and Lydia Thorpe get together to
take this thing to thirty eight votes? If that's the case, that is technically a tie in the Senate. That is when if thirty eight years thirty eight, No, what ends up happening is that the President of the Senate casts a casting vote. But because they are already counted the overall number of labor people, this thing would still fall short.
Remember they need thirty nine votes to pass. Now. Again, I don't know what David Van's planning to do, but I'm saying, if Thorpe and Van it's only thirty eight, meaning where could the final vote come from. Well, it's not going to come from a one nation senator. There's two of them. It's not going to come from Ralph Babbott, the United Australian Party senator, and it's not going to come from gered Rennick, who of course has gone out on his own with a big Australian Freedom Party that
he's trying to launch at the moment. Sorry, I know that's not the actual name, but you get my point. So at this moment, if everyone holds the line and even Lydia Thorpe falls in, even if a former ex Liberal is somehow able to join, then this thing will die. The government will not be able to censor the Internet. But that's me just doing the numbers on the back of the napkin. Politics has a very strange way of producing some surprise results every now and then, Wait, watch
and sea. But it should be if all things are headed in the right direction, a good decision, which is that freedom of speech will continue in this country. Your capacity to tell your friends about something interesting that you read or watch or heard will be unimpeded. But watch this space. It's going to be a very interesting week.
Does Labor take the vote and lose quickly or do they try to wait until the very end of the second week, after dark, when everyone's headed for the doors to find some mystery way of being able to get to their magic number of thirty nine. Don't say you weren't warned. One thing I've talked about for ten years when it comes to renewable energy is that I don't have a problem with renewable energy. My problem is with
the cost of the transition to renewable energy. Great doco about this, of course, coming up on Tuesday with the Chris Yuleman. Make sure that you watch it eight o'clock. That's going to be mussed stuff. Remember a couple of years ago when Chris Kennedy did that excellent documentary about nuclear power. Well, this one is even better. It is a spectacular piece of work. I've seen a couple of
rough cuts and it is an absolute belter. So make sure that you're there at eight o'clock and we'll talk about it straight after at nine o'clock astraight in eastern daylight time. But Chris Bowen, of course, is obsessed, obsessed with trying to make the change from the system that worked to the one that might work. Fingers crossed. But the cost of the transition is hundreds of billions of dollars. Best case scenario is I think the CSO said about
half a trillion dollars. Reality is, there's some new numbers popping up today, saying it could be closer to six hundred and forty two billion dollars, not one hundred and twenty two billion dollars as the government was claiming way back when the Prime Minister says that all of this is fine because we'll be a renewable energy superpower because we might be able to send some solar power to Singapore.
But according to the model, replacing the predominantly coal fire power system with mainly solar and wind would set Australia back at least six hundred and forty two billion dollars labor promised, along with two hundred and seventy five dollars off your energy bills. One hundred and twenty two billion dollars.
More than five hundred billion dollar black hole is due to the exclusion of fixed or variable operating expenses, fuel and more than sixty billion dollars worth of transmission projects, as well as the use of an accounting treatment called net present value rather than actual prices, meaning the way they got the lowest number was by like the old way used to find sbs on your television. They were leaning really out on one side with a coat hanger.
Hopefully just one second, one second, let's see is arp A winning. But surprise, surprise, the reality is not going to be what they promised. Instead, it's going to be exactly what you have experienced over the past three years, which is bills that keep going up and up and up. Why because the stuff has to be built, it will either be paid for by us the taxpayer. There's tens of billions. I would suggest we're on our way towards over one hundred billion dollars in off budget measures, which
means we're paying for it. We're still borrowing money, but for some reason they don't have to report it, because that's a lovely little trick they're able to play. Or of course, it is private companies that do it, which means you the consumer. Now, of course, green energy advocates will tell you, sure, okay, there's a big expense about setting it all up, but once it's set up, everything's cheaper. Sure,
but that logic's the same for everything. Once you've paid off your home, look at all that extra money that you're going to have. We're not paying a home loan. But you know how long and how arduous and how difficult and how many variables they are over the twenty to thirty years of paying off a home loan. This was Ted O'Brien, the opposition's energy spokesperson on outsiders this morning.
We've seen under the Albanesi government the polar opposite. Australians are now paying among the highest prices in the world. Emissions have been going up since Labor came to office, and the market operator is saying the lights might go out.
And just by the way, just the double standard stuff. Bromwin Bishop has of course educated us about years and years about one rule for them, one rule for everybody else. Peter Dutton was coppying it from client protesters because he was not planning to announce the coalition's twenty thirty target going into this election. Little only twenty thirty five target going into this election, because he says all of that's meaningless because it's just about getting a net zero and
doing it by twenty fifty. Hence why nuclear energy would be part of that mix and by twenty fifty we will be able to hit that goal. At the time, the Prime Minister said this when Peter Dutton would not tell us his twenty thirty or twenty thirty five targets.
What Peter Dutton is saying is that he won't have a twenty thirty target.
This is an extraordinary.
Failure of leadership from Peter Dutton at chows. He's not up to the job of being the alternative prime minister of this country.
Well well, well again, big stuff out of this interview today with Andrew Clannell asking all the right questions of the Prime Minister, because the Prime Minister was leaking to the media today or his office was saying off to the media, look, we may not tell you what we're going to do with twenty thirty five before the election. Now, of course they say it's because it's complicated and we
need to model things. No, the reality is if they hit a number, remember the Teals and the Greens, they wanted to be the best part of seventy five percent of emissions reductions by twenty thirty five. If it's a minority government, that's the number they will have to adhere to.
Because remember the genius playing four hs of climate politics in this country passed a law about a twenty thirty target meaning that law would therefore be amended by a minority government driven by the Greens and the Teals for twenty thirty five. But they'll pretend that they don't have to tell you what that number is until after the election. When Peter Dutton had that position, it was a disgrace when it's easy doing it well, of course, it's completely okay,
what's the term we have for it? When the Prime Minister says one thing and then says the exact Oh, that's right, all right. A bit about Kevin Rudd in DC. The Prime Minister said today that there will be no change, which of course will be a great relief to the current ambassador and the man who of course was originally the Prime Minister to Albo's deputy prime Minister way back when when he of course was fighting Tories but actually really fighting Julia Gillard.
Do you think he'll be there for another year or more.
Yes, he's Australia's ambassador to Washington and he's doing a very important job.
How do we get to this point? I guess with Donald Trump saying we're going to have a perfect friendship, and then a week later one of his right hand men is tweeting this hour Glass about saying Kevin Rudd's running out of time.
We had a comment on someone who I don't know and have never had a discussion with. The discussion I had with President Trump was very constructive and very positive.
And didn't mention Kevin.
Right.
No, Yeah, the year no name staff is a guy called Dan Scavino who has been by his side since twenty fifteen, all the way through Unbroken, and he has just been named a special advisor to the President. So let's not pretend that this is some sort of figure
that can be ignored. But still, the lefty drums have been beating for some time that to dare show the old comments of the former prime minister now ambassador is apparently some sort of news corp conspiracy, despite the fact that of course the four D chess there would be let's get him out of the job so he can
come back to call for a Royal commission into the business. Okay. Interestingly, though, Anthony Abernei has apparently had a conversation with Donald Trump, but for some reason, he has made no effort during that conversation to actually say, Hey, all this tariff stuff that you're talking about will that apply to us. Now, generally speaking, this stuff doesn't apply to us. The tariff policy is all about countries specifically like China, or maybe
North American countries or Central American countries, places like Mexico. Again, Albo thought that in all of the things to bring up the potential trade situation. But then again, maybe he wants the trade situation because then they can blame their economy on Donald Trump.
Scott Morrison and Malcolm Turnbull were able to talk Donald Trump out of imposing tariffs on Australia. Do you think you'll be able to do the same.
Well, I, of course will always stand up for Australia's interests, And when I spoke with President Trump, I pointed out, as I'm sure they did, that the United States has enjoyed a trade surplus with Australia since Truman was president, so for a long period of time. So the trade between Australia and the United States is in both of our nations interests.
I love when he's just quickly looked at Google and found Truman in a day, Morman. I always knew that. I always knew that. Okay. As for Trump in the day that he had today, he turned up to the UFC same building that he had his apparently faithful, horrible, disastrous rally Madison Square Garden, and they didn't boo him. In fact, they love forty seven. It's of the president. Yes,
oh my god. But despite the fact that he's winning, winning, winning, fighting, fighting, fighting, and getting plenty of people to cheer him along the way in lefty Land, Oh, let's still hurting.
We've seen this before. Historically, Adolf Hitler purged the Nazi Party of Nazis.
That he felt had too much power and become political enemies.
Now the Touch has gone lurching back to the right. I hope it's not going as far right as that which happened in Germany in the nineteen thirties. The Nazi thing didn't work, You don't. They'll keep rolling on. And remember when the election was apparently gonna be decided by Tyler Swift getting involved. Well, some Cliver bugger with access to a computer has been able to use a little bit of AI to turn Taylor Swift and Trump will in the opposite direction. Taylor, Ed's done, just started jack in.
I know that Joe and I used to be in. I'm the losing side you should have voted more like Patrick's wife, shad up brittany more more more, more, more more more she feel sale falling for the blatant life. Come a let track you with shit bouring out as abby the present and you'll be a saint. It's a jud this thing. Oh if that's the Taylor Swift song that I have to hear in my house for the next year or so, I'll be fine. The rest of them kind of the same. What a surprise. She always
makes terrible choices. Quick break back with more here on Paul Murray Live. Lots to talk about with a great and cracker Jack tannel, including their prediction for the week ahead and then cyclone Tracy fifty years on. We'll go to darn with more in a second. Thanks very much
for watching. Let's get straight into it right now with James Ashby, who of course did his best at the Queen's Land election, but of course continues all day every day working with Paul and Hanson there in the One Nation office, and his big brain was behind that excellent cartoon of which I was able to borrow the episode slightly a few seconds of lot. Well done, mate, I loved it. You and the step Mates team and Linda Scott.
Of course, she's free of all responsibilities, so she can say whatever she wants, but it'll always be in service of the Labor Party. Now let's get to the scare campaign of all scare campaigns, which begins before the election, which definitely won't be in May, despite the fact that he said that it in May. Wow, what a card player. Here's part of this scare campaigning about Peter Dutton.
The average household will be around seven six hundred dollars worse off under Dune.
Dunton doesn't add up for working people. You'll be worse off underdone, James. We are worse off under ALBERNISI is anyone going to buy that? Sure? Ah?
Well, sadly they do, Paul. This is where the negative advertising look. It doesn't work on people who watch this program. Clearly they're more engaged and they understand what's going on behind the scenes and in day to day politics.
But for the average.
Person who is more worried about paying off their mortgage or trying to get a rental at an affordable price which doesn't leave them homeless, they're not tuned into.
The media like you and I are.
Can I also just point out when you are not within an election period, it is half the price, if not a third of the price to do advertising of this nature. So when you enter an election cycle they've got a special rate car for the advertising of political content, but outside of that, it's a third of the price. So they are just eating away, just chipping away bit
by bit by bit at the coalition here. If anything, what this advertising will probably do is favor minor parties one nation because the public who will be watching this won't necessarily want to vote for Labor either, and they go, well, listen, we'll just place out bet with one nation. So that's what's happening behind the scenes. And yes, it does work, whether you and I like it or not.
Well, and this is why you know, you have to be dexterous enough to be able to respond to it. So we'll see what the Liberal Party does in the next thing. Well, Linda, does this show a proactive Labor party that's not going to have its issues defined? They will define the issues. No.
I just think it shows that they're trying to get some truthful messages out there. I mean, we talked about the fact that Peter Dutton when he was the Health minister, tried to introduce a Medicare co payment. He's now got nuclear power on the cards. You know, clearly csiro is recommended. It's fifty. He sent more expensive than wind and renewable
energy sources. So he's got all sorts of very expensive propositions on the table, but has also promised to go to the election with one hundred billion dollars with the cuts, but not saying where they're going to come from. Paul, So, I think we just need some honesty. The Australian people expect to know the details of the policy that the
coalition is going to take to the election. They expect to know where the cuts are going to be made, and they expect to hear clearly from the leader of the Opposition how on earth it is that he is going to make commitments about things that people will trust.
Well, you're talking about misinformation. I could challenge you on plenty, but let's just move on to the vote that's going to happen this week. Fatima Payment one of those key left leaning MPs and senators. They need a couple of them, they need three of them, sorry, but most of the five that are up for Grabs have said no. She's the latest to say no to censoring the internet.
Freedom of speech is a pillar of our democracy and this bill threatens that. Of course, misinformation and disinformation are a problem, but this bill isn't the answer. The powers it grants could lead to over censorship, with the government deciding what does and doesn't count as the truth. That's not the Australia I believe in.
I love that, James. These people have all come to the decision that you and I made two years ago when we first heard about it. Well done for skewing them again in the cartoon as you did so. Did I get the math's right when I was at the start of the show trying to explain where we are here where Basically Thorpe is the only unannounced one right now.
But even if they get Thorpe and somehow there's a surprise with the former Liberal senator in David Van, this thing would be one vote short and therefore den on arrival. Is that you're reading of the numbers.
Tonight, Yeah, you are fottom with those numbers. I doubt very much that Lydia Thorpe will come to the party on this and David Van I think this is a dead in the water bill. I mus take my hat off to Fatima Payman because she is not only a woman of color, but she's a migrant to this country, Ani Muslim, who believes in free speech, unlike her colleague in the Senate, Mariene Ferruci, who obviously doesn't believe in freedom of speech because of that Ade and C case.
But well do under her for at least speaking out and saying she will not support this labor bill. Look, you're right when you say that one nation came to their senses years ago when the Coalition proposed this Misinformation and Disinformation bill. From the get go, you would have thought that Labor had learned a lesson when they dropped it because they didn't have the numbers.
Then.
I don't think they're going to have the numbers in the coming week or fortnite, because, as you say, it could be one of those late night sittings of Parliament where they try and rush this through because someone's fallen asleep on the couch in their office or gone home a little bit early. So watch this space. It's not dead yet, but with a bit of luck, they will not get this bill through.
Yeah, a couple of free holidays to some backbenches from the LNP. We'll see what happens the next sort of while. Now, of course I know that Senator Senator Farouki speed dial for lawyers. Obviously she would disagree with that suggestion. She'd like to come on the program to state her case. She's more than welcome. Sorry, James, I just want to save myself from the meeting tomorrow. Now, Enough said Linda again. This misinformation bill, if it looks like it's going to fail,
do you fail quickly? Just tactically, as a person who has been in a room counsel, you can see that you're going to get there by a vote or you're going to fall over by a vote. Do you wait to the end of two weeks and then basically have a two week storyline of failure or if it's going to die, idea kill it quickly.
Look I think that again, it's really disappointing that the Coalition have not decided to vote for this bill. I understand that they're always going to try and make this about free speech, but for the now increasingly millions of Australians that have been scammed, they're finding false information on the Internet. And we've seen over the weekend in some of the Sydney Morning Herald papers. You know, these incredible videos, fake videos of Lee being Australian figures clearly selling fake
financial products. I mean these stopping scamming.
People, stopping the ability to share YouTube videos. The government ow.
Things are scamming real Australians. Many Australians don't like to talk about it because they're embarrassed, but they're losing their houses. We're not talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars. And these kinds of bills are designed to prevent misinformation and disinformation and scams, take them off the Internet and give those scag social media companies to have them have a
penalty if they keep that information up and online. I think Australians are listening to this, and I think they'll be disappointed that the Coalition is not trying to do everything they can to block and get in the way of those really serious and dangerous financial scams.
I think there's a reason why we haven't seen much polling on this. Even left wing organizations know this thing would poll very poorly. Censoring the Internet was has always been a terrible idea again, there are plenty of laws in place about what you can say, that our outright to lives, provalized defamation, all of these different things that are there. The concept of the government doesn't like remember what they did during COVID. Anyway, we'll see what happens
in the next couple of weeks. I would suggest, if it's going to die, I hope it does so quickly. But if they drag it out for two weeks hoping that they can send somebody to Tahiti for free, they're going to have a problem for yet another two week distraction. So the climate change and climate change in the twenty twenty five election versus the twenty twenty two election. Now this was supposedly the climate change election. But then, of course the decisions which have been made by this government
cost an awful lot of money. They tried to hide that it would cost an awful lot of money, but it has. The result is, of course, power bills have gone up, despite the fact the promise was that it was going to be the opposite direction. But then, Linda, we get the government who took us on a long journey for a year and half a billion dollars on the voice vote. Now are going to line up and try to get a conference that the Prime Minister doesn't deem important enough
to attend. This year all asked to be hosted in Australia. For China to turn around and tell us that we need to collectively give them one and a bit trillion dollars.
Well, look, first of all, I think the cop is a really important global process. It's really important because we know climate change is dangerous. It's based on science. You wouldn't think we're still having to make the case for the importance of acting on climate change, and yet here we are again. But more and more Australians are identifying this as a major issue. But we also know it's a global issue and Australia can act on our own.
We should take actions, but without a global consensus, it's really, really difficult to have a proper measurable impact on the way that we can stop climate change. Now, I think it's important for Australia to play our part in the global community. I think it's important from a climate change perspective, but it's also important from a security perspective. We've of course got all these incredible countries America just a.
Decision between basically for four years, one of the biggest players out of the game.
I just don't think that's right. I mean, I do accept the fact that Donald Trump has said that he's going to rip up all their climate change commitments. But we've seen incredible jobs actually in the US come out of the renewable energy sector. It's gone a lot into those Republican states. I don't think he's going to rip vote because of those jobs. I don't think he's going to rip up those jobs. And I don't think he's
going to rip up many of those projects. And when you talk to acid owners around the world, they're not going to get out of America too. So I think he may well rip up the treaty. I think it might be pretty symbolic, but I continue to think America will be pretty on track to be honest when it comes to acting on climate change, irrespective of whether Trump is the president or not.
Before we talked about climate change, there was cycle on Tracy fifty years on. We'll talk about that in a moment with a great Matt mattor Cunningham who is in Darwin James, Thank you, Linda, thank you Longer. Next time I promise, but I just had to play the Taylor Swift Trump thing. All right, quick breakback with more here on Paul Murray Life. Thanks for watching Royal Report thirty minutes away from now. I don't need any excuse to talk to my mate Matt Cunningham, who was of course
in Darwin. But we've got a good reason to do it right now, which is that he is working on a special to commemorate fifty years in Cyclone, Tracy. Geez, how time moves on quickly. The Great Man joins us from the most fantastic part of Australia, that being the Northern Territory, constantly free. A little too muggy at this point of the year, but still great Man. The events of Cyclone, Tracy, whether you lived through them or learnt
about them, they have really defined Darwin. They've defined Darwin and everything from how things are built to the scars that have existed. And that's part of what you talk about in this special doc go up in a couple of weeks.
Absolutely, and I think you know, as someone who's lived here for a long time, Paul, I think doing this documentary I really got an idea about where you know, the resilience of Darwin people has come from. I mean, it's a pretty hard place to live for parts of the year.
At the best of times.
But talking to some of these surviv and what they went through fifty years ago, and the fact that after they went through such a traumatic experience, they were then able really to straight away to pack their things up, to dust themselves off, and then to say, you know what, we're going to rebuild this place, and we're going to rebuild it right here and turn it into the great, vibrant tropical city that it is today.
Sixty six people lost their life. Eighty eight people ended up losing their life in the Balley bombings of the early two thousands. So that's how significant a number of people. Give me an idea about the types of people that you've been able to talk to, And even for those who lived it fifty years ago, does this time of the year bring it up for them regularly.
Well, we're actually talking to people as part of this documentary, Paul, who really have told us that until very recently they've been unable to talk about the experience of Christmas nineteen.
Seventy four at all.
One of the interesting things that people have been telling us is that there was a sound record made of Cyclone Tracy. The bishop at the time, Bishop Ted Collins, hung on a microphone out of the window and recorded the sound of Cyclone Tracy. And for years it's been played in a sound booth at the Northern Territory Museum
and at Art gallery here in Darwin. And almost without exception, the people that we've spoken to the survivors of Cyclone Tracy have said that they have never been able to go back into that room because it brings back such traumatic memories. I mean, we've spoken to people. One guy we spoke to, Anthony Bullock. He was twelve years old
at the time. He was walking down the stairs of his elevated house with his dad to try to get into the toilet downstairs to seek shelter when the cyclone came and basically blew the staircase and blew him and his old man ten meters off onto the lawn. There are just some incredible stories of survival and some incredible stories of trauma and hardship. Another bloke we spoke to, Alan Haynes. He and his sister were caught up in
the cyclone. He was only twenty years old at the time, but his parents were living in Adelaide and as you would know, all communication from Darwin was cut, so for seven days after Cyclone Tracy hit, his mum and dad back in Adelaide had no idea whether their son and daughter, who were living in Darwen were alive, and his mum actually wrote him a letter, not knowing whether he was alive or not, just saying I really hope that you
are and I love you so much. So there's some really sort of heart wrenching but also heartwarming tales that we've uncovered as part of this process.
Yeah, let's have a little look at what's coming your way in about ten days time. Here on Scotonis time stood still and sadly we're going to die.
Fifty years on. What's the overriding emotion for you? Cyclone Tracy hit Darwin in the early hours of Christmas Day.
The kitchen just exploded out people, the boss houses were out there in amongst it.
It's reminiscent of Piroshima. How could anyone survive? The roof kept lifting and dropping, and the wind was just horrifying.
And to be the first to witness extraordinary, never before seen footage.
Dad Ellen went out filming and they've really kept it. A remarkable story.
It's a tale of resilience, there's no question about that.
Weird bozzy men racing up into each other and giving enormous having anything.
Christ You're alive. Cyclone Tracy fifty years on eight pm, November twenty seven on Sky News.
Paul, that's six thirty at Darwin time, Wednesday, the twenty seventh of November. It's been I have to say, a real privilege to be able to work on this and there are just some incredible stories. Fifty years on from the day that Cyclone Tracy came and flatten Darwin.
You're a very good man. Everyone should have noted just then. He never looked down for a note when it came to names. The man knows it because he loves the story and he loves that part of Australia. We love you, great man. We'll see you again very soon, all right, a couple of weeks before you get to said that here on Sky News at eight o'clock or six point thirty in Dot See you tomorrow.