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Paul Murray Live | 17 February

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The federal election expected to be called any day, key world leaders attend the ARC Conference, and Independent Senator Fatima Payman's absurd defence of the antisemitic nurses. 

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Speaker 1

From the Skying Center. This is Paul Burray Live.

Speaker 2

Hello, Happy Monday, Welcome to the biggest no sooks, no lefty that I can possibly share.

Speaker 1

With you this Monday night.

Speaker 2

We had an awful lot to get to, including, of course no sooks, no lefties, James Morrow today Buddy and.

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Senator Matt Kennevan both joining us in a second.

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The Hope of the side you said the Price will join us as well, just in a Nampa gymp for Price. I'm sorry, proper names.

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Here and how good was the greatest of all time? Getting around at.

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The Dayton of five hundred is a motorsport fan who's very excited for the supercars going around in Sydney this weekend.

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This thrilled my little bogan heart.

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See, we've had great recent on the track where we've got the President landed right now.

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I've been here four times before as a civilian, and now I'm in a different capacity.

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We love NASCAR, and we love the people of NASCAR.

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We love our country and it's truly an honor to be with all of you at the.

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Great American Race. Gentlemen, start your engines. This is truly an historic first, A sitting a United States President pacing the field for the Creative American Race. Oh how good? How good?

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Matchin now by trying to do that at See one at Bathurst, wouldn't even have the balls to show up to the race, Peter it Dutton did last year, Remember that motorsport fans. But first day one of a two day meeting of the Reserve Bank has been taking place. We know what the outcome is probably going to be, or at least what the media is expecting.

Speaker 4

Markets are all but certain that the Reserve Bank will cut the official interest rate tomorrow.

Speaker 5

Mortgage holders across Sydney could be less than twenty four hours away from their first interest rate relief in four years.

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But on this show I say the same thing over and over again, which is I'm not going to fall for the hype. A lot of people think this is going to be the beginning of the reset for the Abeneze government.

Speaker 1

But they thought that about two little too late tax cuts.

Speaker 2

They thought that, of course about the voice interesting poll in a slew of.

Speaker 1

Them that are around at the moment. You know, I'll try to show the data.

Speaker 2

That is the bricks. The opinion is the mortar in the wall that we build each and every night. Right track, wrong track. Fifty five percent of people say country is headed in the wrong direction. Just twenty seven believe that it's in the right direction. Break that down by age forty seven to twenty eight, fifty two to twenty nine, fifty seven to twenty seven, and sixty three to twenty six. All age groups believe that we are headed in the

wrong direction. Majorities from thirty five up until the oldest person that will be voting later this year, twenty five percent, a quarter, a quarter of labor voters think that their country is headed in the wrong direction. Seventy three percent of people planning to vote against the government directly, fifty three percent of Greens because they presume it's not headed in too much of a left direction. But that other number, everything from the real independence to the Teel independence to

one nation and any and everything in between. Seventy five percent of people think the joint is headed in the wrong direction. So whatever happens tomorrow, that is not going to change. Numbers that big, that deep, are fundamental, They are baked in. There may be some very slight movement between now and whenever the election will be called, but I don't think there's going to be much moved between

now and when the election actually happens. And also it is again worth pointing out that even if zero point two five percent is what the Reserve Bank decided to cut tomorrow, this is how much you can expect to save off what you have been spending in extra loan repayments since Albo became the Prime Minister in twenty twenty two. Ninety two dollars a month. That's it for people paying off six hundred, one hundred and fifteen for seven hundred and fifty or one hundred fifty to two hundred dollars.

If you're between say one and one and a half million dollars, Again, no one's going to be saying, oh, I don't want the money. But no one is also going to say that when that many people in that many directions, including a quarter of labor people think we're headed in the wrong direction, that anything magically is going to be changing if by this time tomorrow night we're.

Speaker 1

Talking about interest rate cut.

Speaker 2

Now, as a person trying to pay off a house, I want interest rates cut, no question. As a person who has shown you the data about the per capita recession that we have been in for the best part of two years. I want an interest rate cut. I want them to halve interest rates. So I am not

cheering for anything but a reduction in interest rates. But when, as I have relentlessly shown you, the total amount of your repayments that have gone up since twenty twenty two and twelve of the thirteen interest rate rises under Albow,

I'm sorry. You can say Hallalujah ninety two dollars if you've paid twenty two thousand and four hundred and ten dollars extra each year on a six hundred thousand dollars loan, are you really going to be singing hallelujah twenty nine thousand on an eight hundred thousand dollar known thirty seven thousand dollars on a one million dollar loan, or forty four thousand, eight hundred forty five thousand dollars you have had to find on top of what you're already paying.

That's each year, So you can double those numbers for twenty two plus twenty three and twenty four. It's extraordinary the amount of money people have had to spend on their mortgages. And also just to show that it is not just me scribbling in crayon in my padded cell between shows.

Speaker 1

Where I'm sure lefties think I actually live.

Speaker 2

There are plenty of other people who have this view, who can see the reality that even if rates are cut, there is not about to be a party in the streets like it's the end of World War two. One and a half million people in austral are sitting through mortgage stress right now, and what is being described as throwing a cup of water at a bushfire would be the equivalent of what might happen tomorrow. A person who is with a property tech service called be Right says

this is Aaron Scott. A rate cut might sound like good news on the surface, but in reality it's unlikely to make meaningful difference to many homeowners who are already stretching their financial limits. A single rate cut is like getting a four cent discount of two dollars of fuel. It might make you feel good, but the saving is gone by the time you lead the servo. Good point, unless you've got half a dozen cuts that are lined up.

Speaker 1

One drop in rates won't.

Speaker 2

Move the needle for most household budgets, that's my point. And if those household budgets are directly linked to people's financial circumstances and thus what bleeds into our political beliefs about whom we believe responsible. You can have the team with one interest rate rise of the one with twelve since they started going up in twenty and twenty two.

I'm pretty sure where a huge bulk of people are, and those people, of course are in the suburbs where the bet is they may well vote Liberal for the first time, or if they vote something like one Nation, they would definitely send their preferences back to the Libs because they don't want a continuation of this government and its pain. Remember the central promise of the alban Easy opposition before government was to make the cost of living lower.

Speaker 1

All of it has gone.

Speaker 2

Up, some of it since it has gone up, has come down a little bit, but all of it, all of it is higher than when they made that promise. I hope you remember that. I hope your friends remember that. And if they don't see this program, share the video when it's uploaded to sky on news dot com that are you or up on our YouTube channel. It's small business to lots of people who work in that particular facilities, and we know that ninety seven percent of Australian businesses

are small businesses. Of those, about seventy percent are sole traders, so the rest are people who maybe employ one, at least one or maybe a couple of extra people. Now, interesting article today in the nine websites where they are saying that small business is in a recession. They are going backwards as opposed to the public service which is thriving.

Why because it's your money that is paying for the public service and the credit card that is just being tap and god every five seconds by this government record levels. Now we know what the Labor Party thinks of small business because when the Liberal Party have put forward their idea for the same tax rules to apply to small business as big business when it comes to entertaining like you being able to go to the pub and take a potential client or maybe your biggest customer out for

a schnitzel. This is the way the Labor Party is turning you, the small business owner into a caricature.

Speaker 1

Long lunches paid for by the taxpayer.

Speaker 6

For bosses are the lips for real?

Speaker 5

What's next?

Speaker 7

Couldn't you feed up at your desk at work smoking a cigar?

Speaker 2

That's what they think if you have a takeaway food business, if you've got a lawn mowing run, if you're a person who runs a hairdressers, that's what they think of you. They think you're a boss sitting around waiting to smoke a cigar. I'm stand up for the cigar smokers of Australia, but you get my point. Remember, even in the Parliament, a person who's earning more than four hundred thousand dollars who gets to go to sport for free because she's the Sports Minister as well as the age ke Minister

making you pay more for services in your retirement. She thinks that small business.

Speaker 1

Has got so much extra cash lying around that you could go to the superbar.

Speaker 8

According to the coalitions publicly defined parameters of their own policy, business could spand up to twenty thousand dollars of Elizabeth's own taxpayer funds to attend something like, for example, the Super Bowl, to lather themselves in buffalo wings and babyback ribs. Nodding along to Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker 2

That's their vision of small business. If you work for one, that's how little they care. If you run one, that's what they really think of you. You are surplus to requirements. You see the modern left beliefs that you should be dependent on the government through welfare, or you should be dependent on the government by working for them, or if you are a private business, your biggest customer should be the government. Therefore, don't upset the upper cart. Keep voting labor,

Keep voting labor. The disastrous results of that are how Victoria exists right now and why the Labor government lost so badly in Queensland after they had been in charge for the best part of thirty years in a row. Well, the ABS put out some stats that show the number of people who are employed in private business in Australia. The bottom one is the one that I want you to pay attention to, where the total number of people working for a small business on top of the boss.

You can see where it was and it's basically the same. Nothing has changed. In fact, the total number of people has gone backwards. In September of twenty twenty two, nine hundred and thirty thousand people worked as well as the owner in a small business. In December of last year it is nine hundred and twenty one thousand, so over the entirety of their time in government post COVID, No

COVID blame. The total number of people working for a small business has gone backwards, Yet they are arrogant enough to run around and pretend that it's about you know, smoking cigars with the monocle and the top hat, or you're going to blow cash going to the Super Bowl. Meantime, public servants, they have added well and truly where small business has not. So small business has gone down by

the best part of nine thousand employees. The total number of extra people working for the federal government thirty six thousand people. A football stadium of people working for the government, while small business has nine thousand fewer people working for it now than when this mob took office. Pay attention. This is what they truly think about Australians who want to be in charge of their own future, not reliant and dependent on the government via welfare, via working for

them or them as your biggest customer. Now, I want to drill down even further into the discussion at the moment around polls that are absolutely showing that Liberal Party has its nose in front right now going into an election. Petty Dutton is confident that he will win the election.

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There's no doubt in my mind that we can win the election. I have been in marginal campaign for the last quarter of a century. Not only do I think we can win up it, more importantly, I think we can serve the country well.

Speaker 2

And every day there is a pole that points us in that direction. Every day the bookies remain and I check every day because of the changes. I'll tell you on the telly, they believe there will be a change of government. I hope there is a change in government. But I am offering the asorisk here because I don't want to anyone waking up like labor people felt in twenty nineteen, because I think there are some similar dynamics

which are at play. But even more, polling is getting better for the opposition and worse for the government now as we know, the polling that was around yesterday showed that seventy three seats was the way that the Opposition was starting to head towards, meaning they only need three to get to a majority. They would be pretty easily

able to find. When you think about people like Rebecca Sharky, when you think about people like Bob Katter, both of whom have said who have has the most number of seats they would get on board, and allegedly a Languis spender is suggesting that she is willing to work with them.

She's one of the only Teals willing to do so. Now, also, what brews to that point is not just what Newspop popped up today again showing fifty one to forty nine in favor of the coalition, but a majority of Australians believeing it's time to give someone else a go after three terrible years of this terrible government. Thirty four percent of people, which is basically the Labor Party primary vote, believe this government deserves a second term. Fifty three percent

believe it doesn't. Now when that fifty three, we're talking about anyone from a real independent voter to a Teal voter to agree to One Nation, libertarian and all in between. Interestingly, once you start to slicingize this by states, fifty percent of people in New South Wales say it's time for a change, fifty four percent of people in Victoria and fifty eight percent of people in Queensend.

Speaker 1

All of that great, great, great good, good good.

Speaker 2

Now of the seats that the Redbridge polling, and this is going to be twenty marginal seats that they're going to have.

Speaker 1

A look at every two weeks.

Speaker 2

It's going to be as close to publicly available information as the tracking pole that both Labor and Liberal run where they also monitor twenty seats and they basically get a daily report. It's very expensive to do so, so for us to get basically the same information every two weeks before the election, and then, as Coss Samaras told us on our last night, every week during the election, it's really fascinating.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 2

The reason they say that seventy three seats becomes the option is because many existing Labor seats would go to the coalition.

Speaker 1

These are the seats that they.

Speaker 2

Are suggesting is going to change in Victoria, New South Wales, Western Australia and Tasmania. They also believe that there will be some changes in again plenty more there in New South Wales. The rich pickings basically been New South Wales as the top seed where fifty percent of people say it's time for somebody else to have a guard and the others coming from Victoria, which is fifty four percent of people.

Speaker 1

Saying it's time for change.

Speaker 2

But for that to actually take place, there's a couple of campaign tactics that I want to talk about here because there is one thing that absolutely overlaps with those seats that the pollsters are telling us are the most likely bricks in the red wall to fall, and what their view was of the referendum back in twenty twenty three. Now, remember the public polling when Albou was running around the country in the s T shirt, was that the Labor Party was still well and truly out in front of

the opposition. They then spent a year and four hundred and fifty million dollars on a referendum and they have never recovered from it since. So the seats set to change, Aston, Gilmore, Bullwinkle, Benelong, Lions, Tangy, Well, what do they all have in common? They all voted no Aston at fifty seven percent, Gilmore at sixty one percent and Cured at sixty percent, Lions in Tasmania at sixty seven percent, plus a whole collection of others. As you can see, the lowest number there is what the

mid fifties. The highest number there is A's seventy percent. So seats like Hunter and Patterson, which I openly speculated last night on the air, was really at the tipito end of the expectations part of the Liberal Party thinking, he is that if seventy percent of people thought the Prime Minister had the wrong idea when it came to the referendum, that he had the wrong priorities because cost of living was the cost of living fire was raging

at that point in time. That being reminded of the Prime minister's priority when you were suffering the beginnings of what became three terrible years financially could be something that will move the needle. But for that to happen, will Liberal Party operatives have the courage to use the image of the Prime minige to wearing the shirt advocating the

position that all of those seats strongly voted against. I don't know whoever's doing the social media, particularly for Michaulia Cash, they have worked this out and virtually every time they mention him, they mentioned him with that T shirt In so, will the Liberal Party make.

Speaker 1

The yes T shirt?

Speaker 2

What I don't hold a hose was for the Labor Party in Scott Morrison. If so, that is going to be a little bit of the secret sauce here of something that Australians spent a year learning about the Prime Minister being in the wrong spot when they demanded that he would be where they wanted instead. Remember in that year when he spent four hundred and fifty million dollars and he was advocating.

Speaker 1

What the majority of the country did not want.

Speaker 2

That's when they took fifteen hundred dollars off ten million taxpayers. It's one thing for me to make the statement here as an observer, but of course I'm not a participant. Let's see how those messages start coming through. Let's see how the social media war plays between now and when the election starts. Because right now the Libs they are somewhat near the target, but they are not over the

top of it. If they believe that there is a direct correlation between places that voted no and places that will vote Liberal at this election, are they tying the Prime Minister to the position all of those places around Australia didn't just vote no, but voted hell no. Two interesting news around the Teals today their big financial group that backs them Climate two hundred. Now they will not

have their wings clipped at all at this election. You should know that all of the supposed funding changes that are going to make their way. They do not apply at this election. They will apply the next election. Why because the government wants as many Teals in the Parliament as possible so that they can harness them to form minority government. But fascinating thing I wanted to mention here they have said that they are going to start going

after Labour candidates. Now they basically had a one hundred percent run against Libs, they're still running the extreme majority against the lib thirty five seats that they're going to have candidates in with money, including the seat of Gilmour, one of the most marginal in the country. This is the one on the south coast of New South Wales. This is the one that has beautiful Bateman's Bay right in the heart of it. And we are going to

be in Bateman's Bay on Sunday for our town. But we're also going to be in Bateman's Bay this time next week for the first of our pub tests, the opportunity for local candidates to join us to answer the questions of the first one hundred people to respond. One of the independent candidates who says she is not a Teal will be receiving money. According to The Guardian Today and the claims of Climate two hundred that they will

at least try to send money to her campaign. She will be there to answer questions on Monday night, as will the Liberal Party's candidate who ran it the last election and hopes to get a different result of this election.

Speaker 1

The former Transport Ministry so well was Andrew Constance.

Speaker 2

We have asked the Labor Party currently No, we've asked the Greens currently know we will keep an empty seat for them. But if you are anywhere near the seat of Gilmour and you have a vote, do you have a question for the two people who are challenging for the seat, join us this time next week. Send me an email to say you want to turn up at pubtest at skynews dot com dot A. You also tell me the question that you would like to ask both the Liberal and the Independent pubtest at skynews dot com

dot AU. I want to fill the room, but I also want to fill the room with people who want to ask questions. Okay, because it's not about me and ow pitch to all of the candidates. Is it is about the first one hundred people to get in the room. The first one hundred people to get in the room Okay, we know if the thing's being stacked when you know twenty people at once ask because that's obviously someone from

the different candidate groups. I want one hundred people who live on the South Coast who've got a question for the local Independent or the local Liberal about not just their area but the country in general, including which way they would vote should there be.

Speaker 1

A hung parliament. It is pubtest, it's goynews dot com dot au.

Speaker 2

Now with the Australia. Remember there was quite the outrage, quite the outrage when Peter Dutton in the budgeting reply speech last year dropped perhaps his most popular policy won agreed by about seventy five percent of people in marginal seats.

Speaker 4

We will implement a two year ban on foreign investors and temporary residents purchasing existing homes in Australia.

Speaker 1

And you remember Labor hated the idea.

Speaker 9

It'll cost the economy billions of dollars. But even the kinds of estimates that you will see are conservative because it's not possible to fully capture the damage that Peter Dutton would do to the skills base of this country.

Speaker 2

Meantime, remember Lefty Laura Tingle, she was out there the Writers Festival circuit, pretending that Peter Dutton's evil uga booger policies was going to result in people going after people who look different.

Speaker 6

I had flash of people turning out to try to read a property or in an auction and they look a bit different. What do you defined different as basically has given them.

Speaker 10

Licensed to the abused.

Speaker 2

Well, guess what the Labor Party is now going to introduce exactly the same policy, Not exactly exactly because they're still going to let foreign buyers buy things off the plan. But they too, via the Housing Minister, Clueless Clare O'Neil, are now matching the policy of which they said would ruin the budget when it was Peter Dutton's idea last year. But they think you're stupid and you won't remember.

Speaker 11

It's not a silver bullet to the housing crisis, because there is no silver bullet. But I really firmly believe that given the housing pressures that Australians are facing today, we need to orient the entire efforts of the Australian government around security of housing for Australians and wherever possible, home ownership for a broader range of young Australians.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the met to election labor desperately trying to say we'll do it as well.

Speaker 1

We'll do it as well.

Speaker 2

That policy has had support seventy five percent of people.

Speaker 1

In marginal electorates.

Speaker 2

I do not believe that the Libs have talked about that policy enough, so it may end up being a.

Speaker 1

Little bit of a political wash. But watch this space. There is plenty more to it.

Speaker 2

A couple of other things I want to mention before we are done the seedning and get into Nosook's No Lefties or wrap up might beit as soon as possible so we can get to the debate and discussion at a moment or two time. Excellent report on sixty minutes last night in and around how the use of cab charges, particularly with older or disabled people, is being ripped off by people who are driving certain cabs. Go back and try and find that story online, but it is pretty amazing.

But put simply, what they were able to prove was that the passenger may well be handed a receipt, but the actual amount of money that gets charged back to the cab charge ends being hundreds of dollars for what might be a thirty to fifty dollars fare. Now, I do not understand in the world of technology that we live in now that we still have this absurd situation where you've got the meter, but the meter doesn't automatically

tell the FPOs machine what should be being charged. Instead, as you know anyone who's been in a cab, there's this bit where they add extra numbers and the nighttime bit,

and that we went over the tolls. So it might be sorta close, but unless you're really paying attention, there's an opportunity here for some extra dollars to be added or their scenarios where cab charges are being handed over, a receipt is being produced, but the actual amount of money being taken on the cab charge is hundreds and hundreds of dollars. This matters because many of the people

with those cab charges. It's part of the ndis we should have a system that is exactly the same as the one who's ever any driven or written in a cab in a place like New York where the driver is not the one entering the detail. Well, you can see it ticking over in the meter, the meter immediately to the little screen out the back, Tap and go, tap and go, tap and go. Surely some system could be presented there. Well done to that story out of

the United States. Now rugby league is just but a week and a bit away from its great start, this show piece start.

Speaker 1

Where they go to Las Vegas.

Speaker 2

What a once in a lifetime opportunity to go to Vegas, let alone to be a footy fan in Vegas. Well, Peter Velandi's the genius behind all of this. The man who has made rugby league the strongest it has ever ever been, was on American television today and he has invited the President of the United States to do what he did to the Super.

Speaker 1

Bowl, to do what he did at Daytona. Come and watch rugby league in Vegas. Mister President.

Speaker 7

We want to introduce you to the toughest game on Earth, rugby league in the world's sport and entertainment capital, Las Vegas. Our players don't wear pads or helmets. As you know, mister President. The US has a trade surplus with Australia, one of the rare countries you are tending, will balance this out a bit. Hope to see you at Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas on Saturday, March one.

Speaker 2

Brilliant, brilliant American TV, American TV. The President is watching, so fingers crossed, the Donald might be there turning up at Allegiance Stadium. But what I can guarantee is that we will be there to see it with our own eyes, because Paul Murray Live is going to Vegas.

Speaker 1

I love driving in the States. I love hanging out in the sunshine.

Speaker 2

I love going from LA to drive through Palm Springs to roll into Vegas where we will be at Allegiance Stadium for the game. We will be in Vegas a few days before, so you will come with us on the footy trip of a lifetime where maybe, just maybe the Donald is going to watch the best game of footy he's ever seen. Break Back with More, no Sooks, no Lefties, Bateman's Bay, Gilmore Pub, Test, Vegas. How good is being on Paul Murray Life? Hey, thanks for watching.

As you know, I like wearing the big silver rings all the time.

Speaker 1

You know, a bit of rock and roll whatever. There will always be that rebel inside me. Right. Well, there's one ring that's probably just a little bit too big for my finger.

Speaker 2

It's it's on my left hand and it falls off the hand every now and then, and I've had all sorts of experiences trying to collect it, including last year Christmas time, around Christmas party season. I just threw, you know, canna coke in a bin at a servo. It came off, and I had to take all of the contents of the bin of the service station and sift through it.

Speaker 1

And it's a disgusting task to find the ring.

Speaker 2

Well, just in case any of the cleaners are watching here at Sky news Men's toilet, I think it's dropped somewhere inside the paper towel bin, all right, So that's where I'll be straight after the show.

Speaker 1

Anyone says a cleaner going near the toot stop stop stop, I'll.

Speaker 2

Pay the overtime. No such problems to James Morrow when he either hosts this program as he did excellently last week, or on the outside of his program because he chooses to wear the.

Speaker 1

One ring that matters. That's it.

Speaker 12

And you know, I'll tell you what these rings falling off, These are a symptom of what life is like under labor. We just have rings flying off all over the place. There are a metaphor for the profligacy of this government which feds money like their rings flying off of your finger.

Speaker 1

Correct, Matt Canavan.

Speaker 2

He's just only got the one ring that matters all the rest of this show because he's not involved in.

Speaker 3

Altho first first wife, Paul third wedding ring.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the other way around. O. When when was the first time yellow?

Speaker 3

He once lost the touch twenty one? We're trying to find it for about four hours.

Speaker 1

That's terrible. I remember I lost a ring.

Speaker 2

I lost another ring which I was given by my beautiful now wife back when we were in high schoo high school swear, and I lost that on the back of a jet ski on the Gold Coast.

Speaker 1

That wasn't a great conversation.

Speaker 3

Wow, you're not going to find that?

Speaker 1

No, all right. So you're at ARC.

Speaker 2

You're there as part of the Conservative conference that's happening in London. I love this thing because it is big brains, big thinkers. Peter Credline of course, is hosting all week from there. What's your contribution going to be apart from meeting some incredible people, Matt, Yeah.

Speaker 3

Look, I'm speaking on a panel on energy tomorrow. That's obviously a big passion of mine. But look, the main thing I'm here for is to regain our confidence this is the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship ARC conference, but I suppose you could call the Association for Regaining Confidence. That's what it's about. It's about making sure that we don't have to apologize. I shouldn't apologize for our heritage, our

history and what it has delivered to the world. We shouldn't be scared of people speaking their minds in free countries, which many governments seem to be. Now, we shouldn't resile from the fact that we can respect how people want to live their lives, but still promote the fact that having a biological mother and father raise a child is the best known way to bring people into the world. And of course we need to defend our own countries

from those that want to do us harm. That needs to me developing our own country, developing our energy resources. That I'm very passionate about keeping ourselves strong, because there is something worth defending in our country in Australia and a lot of other like minded countries that we're friends with around the democratic world.

Speaker 2

Well, and I'm pleased to say a lot of these panels they are going to be up online.

Speaker 1

They're certainly going to be covet at sky News Dot com that are you.

Speaker 2

And again Peter's over there because she's got plenty to say and to add to the movement. You'll see that at six o'clock each and every night here on Sky News. James, I love that clear. I mean, you know, the left's got every conference in the world, from Davos all the way through to know Greta Thumburg's Sharehouse.

Speaker 1

Good to see this for conservatives, well, you know it is.

Speaker 12

I went to the conference in Sydney last year. I was going to go to this, but I was traveling so much last year It's kind of felt like I had to be in Sydney for a bit.

Speaker 1

But I will say this.

Speaker 12

So we've got a great piece in Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph from Tony Abbott, who is also there right now, and he talks about how, you know, this conference is all about maintaining these precious freedoms that we enjoy in Western civilization, freedom of speech, association, freedom of religion. And I think the big thing, the big problem that we have right now, matn Paul, is that we are in a since where we see the love of these values in retreat everywhere

I think except the United States right now. And you look at the way everybody in Europe has reacted to jd Vance's speech. Unique just so, the head of the Munich conference was in tears.

Speaker 10

I can't believe.

Speaker 1

She us, you know.

Speaker 12

And it's like you've got people in Germany saying, oh, you know, you're going to jail for a tweet.

Speaker 1

And you had even on CBS today you.

Speaker 12

Had them say, oh, well, the reason why the Holocaust happened was people in Germany had too much free speech. This is what we're up against, guys, this is what we're again. So yes, good on the people at Rack. I'll see you next year.

Speaker 1

Yeah. And it's an all day, every day fight.

Speaker 2

So Barnaby Joyce is being put in the deep freeze by the people who lead the National Party, that being David Little Proud. Now, first we had told you that the plan was that basically because he's a shadow minister, he will not be given permission to leave basically his seat during the election campaign.

Speaker 1

We now learn that.

Speaker 2

Should there well after the election, that David Little Proud will not put him forward for either a position in a shadow cabinet or the full cabinet, or because of an apparent daliance with potentially joining One Nation now.

Speaker 1

Pauline Hansen, for her part.

Speaker 2

Has put her side of the story out there tonight via her Facebook page.

Speaker 1

Please explain.

Speaker 13

It was an article in today's paper about Barnaby Joyce. Well, what a storm in the teacup. But we can expect that of what's going to come out and lead up to the selection. You know, the lies that have been spread out there because people have self interest. I asked Barnaby guess what. He came back and said, thanks Pauline, but no, thank you. So he's remade loyal to one to the Nationals. I should say I would like him across the One Nation, but he said no, he's remained loyal to the National Party.

Speaker 1

Now, Matt, I don't know what you can. I don't know if you want to get involved in this one. But what's going on. I mean, Barnaby Joyce is a.

Speaker 2

Rock star to the people who are the core support of the National Party. I get that outside of that he might play very differently in a Teal seat, but I don't care about those seats.

Speaker 3

What do you think, Well, look, obviously I love Barnaby. I think he did a great job at the last election. Look the proof is in the pudding. The Nationals Party did not lose a single seat when Barnaby Joyce was leader at the last election. In fact, Barnaby has led a coalition to two elections and neither time did he lose a seat. He gain seats that both would gained

a Senate seat at the last election. We're running in a competitive position today to win the next election thanks to the performance of the Nationals Party, not just at the last election, but really since two thousand and seven. The National's Party have notlested a seat since then, so look been part of that. I think we should revere our former leaders as someone who's proud of the National's Party. And I certainly would never leave the National's Party. Is

Barnaby won't do either. And if there's anybody behind these stories, I don't know. You never hear their names, obviously, it's all our names sort of stuff. They're all very brave. I just wish they'd shut up. I mean, the focus now should be on winning the election. That's what we've got to do. And anybody talking about dividing up the spoils of victory, well you're going to not get there if you're focused on that. You've got to focus on getting across the finish line first.

Speaker 2

Well again, I mean the best case scenario in the polling right now is seventy three. And even then I think that's a little bit top of your tippy toe. See what happens, right, So anyone thinking that, oh, well they've won this one, all they need to do is just keep doing what they're doing. Labor made that mistake in twenty nineteen. But let's get to the Barnaby joyce

of it all. Obviously there are people who don't like him, but I'm sorry they don't understand the number of people that are the ones that will go and do how to votes, the ones that will knock on the doors.

Speaker 1

How many of those people do like him?

Speaker 12

Yeah, and I think you know, there's a couple of things play here. I mean, number one, you're always going to have as you come into an election, there's going to be all these stories but people trying to split parties, split one nation, split split nationals, one nation, all that sort of thing. But you know there's another thing too.

Barnaby has been a very strong speaker against that. Zero So people don't like him because of that, But again, it doesn't really matter because you know, he's a hero in these particular seats that they hold, that they have held, and you know, eyes on the prize.

Speaker 1

Guys.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about the response from the supposedly mainstream Islamic voices in Australia who have decided to come out and focus on the reaction to what the nurses said, including fatom of Payment, who's out there saying, well, haven't they been punished enough?

Speaker 1

Remember what they were openly bragging about. Remember what they were openly bragging about. And he's Fatima Payment trying to pretend it's the messenger or the reaction to the message that's the problem, not what they.

Speaker 14

Said, theology they have been punished. What is the end goal here? What exactly are we trying to achieve justice or just public humiliation? We never see the same level of anger and vitriol when the roles are reversed.

Speaker 1

Okay, where is the role reversed? This is my thing. This is one thing James I heard today.

Speaker 2

There's been one hundred and fifty percent increase in physical attacks against Islamic people.

Speaker 1

Okay, I can't argue the number there, but.

Speaker 2

What is the what is the video example of the Jewish doctor this saying they're going to kill off Muslims.

Speaker 12

This is so upsetting and I really feel like we're at a real sort of fork in the road. Yeah, moment, Paul, with this situation here, because you've had I think the Australia has it had fifty different groups, mainstream as well as groups like his book Career, which is banned in a lot of countries because of what it says and what it's about. All say, Oh, you know, don't make such a big deal about it. And you know, it tells me a couple of things. Number One, it tells

me they're not upset that they said this stuff. They're upset that they got caught. Two, it tells me that in a lot of these communities, this is what they are marinating in. This is a sort of conversation and discussion that is normal conversation, normal dinner table conversation. Remember Jillian Trigg saying you could say what's to like around the kitchen table? Well, guess what's being said around a

lot of these kitchen tables. But the third thing that this says, well, I mean, this tells me that there's a real issue we have here about you know, you talk about community cohesion. Well, this is it because these guys are acting like a bunch of cry bullis. But you know they're saying, oh oh oh, we're the victims here because one of us did the wrong thing, but also we got caught doing the.

Speaker 2

Wrong If you want to be part of mainstream Australian society, like all of these groups claim that they want to be, then the mainstream response is to denounce what was said, not to wait for the wiggle room, not wait twenty four hours. The idoble embarrassment's enough place they can know.

Let's talk about small business versus the public sector. I mentioned and I showed you the numbers between the start of this mob and the upcoming election, small business has gone backwards in terms of the number of people that employs. The federal government though, has gone by a football stadium

of people. And we've seen the attitude that the government has towards small business where they think you've got enough money running around to bugger off to the super Bowl, or if you would like the same tax rules to apply to you as would apply to a financial service that you are apparently a monocle wearing top hat to owning cigar smoking boss. We know labor, we know labor

doesn't get it when it comes to small business. But Matt, this is just open middle finger stuff, right, because the modern project of the center left is that you become dependent on the government, either through welfare, your work for them, which means you're dependent for the income, or if you're a private business, your biggest customer is the government. That's what they try under Daniel Andrews. That's not what we should cop across the rest of Australia.

Speaker 3

Well's not out, Paul that the Labor government has not set a priority of helping small business in this country. For the reasons you've outline. They want more people to be in union employer relationship, more people in the public service that feathers ns and that's what they've driven towards.

So it's no surprise we're seeing these results. But any government should be judged, any person really should be judged by the fruits of what you deliver, and the fruits of the Labor Party that have delivered higher rent taide, higher taxes on people, higher energy prices, and we're seeing those smash Australian small businesses through the country. We're seeing the throats of all of those decisions and these lower amounts of people that are employing other people. Small business

are the biggest employer of other Australians. So when they get hurt, everyone gets hurt. Everyone's job opportunities are hurt as well. And we should particularly focus on these energy price issue because while the government's out there crying and they're spending your money to make it provide a subsidy back to you, that doesn't insulate the small businesses who have to pay higher input costs for all the higher energy prices of manufacturing firms, transport firms, they're getting smashed

by this. That's why we've got to drop net zero and focus on our own developing our own natural resources again to bring prices down for people.

Speaker 1

All right, let's thank you very much.

Speaker 2

And it's four degrees right now in London and Matt, I know it's not your thing, but feel free to go to a cigar shop called James.

Speaker 3

Much More, not much warmer here inside it's terrible James J.

Speaker 1

Fox in the center of London. Go upstairs for a smoke.

Speaker 2

But downstairs there's a museum of artifacts from Winston Churchill, including orders that he has made to that shop many years ago. So go and see a holy site and enjoy. Thank you mate, nice to talk to you both. All right, Senator future senator. Obviously don't smoke.

Speaker 1

It's bad, terrible, awful, awful, terrible. Quick break back with more. I want to avoid the meetings, James, all right, quick break back with more. Just enter price next. That looks that lefties, where's ma ring?

Speaker 4

You know.

Speaker 14

What?

Speaker 2

Are a friend in need, friend indeed whatever, but a friend who's willing, a friend who's willing to once he hears the struggle that you're in to go in and dive into dive into lucky dip style.

Speaker 1

The used hand things. James McPherson, thank.

Speaker 2

You very much. What a beautiful man you are. I appreciate he went digging. We didn't have to wait for the cleanse. Thank you, James. Watch him in about eleven minutes time. A couple of bits of fun before I get to just into price, about a nampogip price, about all the issues that we need to talk about with the hope of the side today with the bafter awards in the UK are the brutalist one other than that

who cares? But the bloke who hosted. It is David Tennant, the great actor who played Doctor Who and a whole bunch of other things. And wouldn't it be cool if, like the next time there was the logis there was something fun like this?

Speaker 10

This is just fun.

Speaker 7

One?

Speaker 2

How good is that? That's the way to do it. I hope Conan does that with the oscars in a couple of weeks. And here is what will now be our nightly reminder that we have a very cringe full Prime minister.

Speaker 1

Roses are red violets of blue.

Speaker 8

It's Valentine's today and we love blue collar working.

Speaker 1

Just into Nampa.

Speaker 2

Jimper Price would never be caught dead on camera doing anything as cringeful as that, but she's got plenty to say about big issues in Australia.

Speaker 1

Senator, love you to see you again, mate. How's Alice tonight?

Speaker 12

Oh?

Speaker 5

Look, Alice is all right tonight. I don't know how I feel though after seeing the Prime Minister with that what, I don't even think i'd call it poetry. I'm feeling a little bit disturbed right now.

Speaker 2

Paul, all right, well let's go, let's yeah, let's let's let's let's get back to safer ground. Here, which is yourself and Peter Dutton have made some pretty major announcements in and around safety in the territory and specifically in and around Palmerston. What do you hope to bring should yourself and Peter Dutton be part of that government potentially as soon as a couple of months away.

Speaker 5

Look, safety is a key issue right throughout the Northern Territory and you know, particularly places like Palmerston. And we've got a wonderful candidate in Lisa Bayless up there who has done the hard work to find out what the community needs are, which is why we are able to make this announcement of three hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars. It's simple, really, it's about ensuring that the streets are properly lit in parks parts that are particularly worrying for

the community. But you know, Lisa Bayless has got many years as a police officer under her belt as well as heading up the Police Association in the Northern Territory. She's an incredible candidate, as is Lisa Sebert, who has an extensive career former career in the AFP. It's remarkable I think that we've got such wonderful candidates, two women to lisas, one Indigenous, one not Indi, but a reflection

of the Northern Territory running for the colp. But look, we are all about ensuring our streets are going to be safe right throughout the Northern Territory, and Leofanocchiaro has already started a wonderful job at changing bail laws and getting offenders off the street with outstanding warrants. So we'll continue down that path and work hand in glove with the territory government to ensure that our homes can be much safer than what they have been.

Speaker 2

I love between yourself, these candidates, the Chief Minister, the future is female, and the future is bright in the Northern Territory.

Speaker 1

All of those options are there on your ballot.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about another scenario here involving the Central Land Council and its chair. You've got some pretty significant concerns about things which are being discussed in relation to this person's past.

Speaker 5

Yeah, look absolutely, I mean you know he's got a horrible rup sheet of dB that we have uncovered through that. Now the Land Council should have done their background checks on those that were putting their name forward to be proper persons for those positions as chair, and he was previously the deputy chair, now he's chair. He's trying to say that he has fronted up to domestic violence rallies

and spoken about his issues as an offender. But unfortunately, what we see is those that run to the defense of these men, and there's a number of them that we've called out recently as chairs of Indigenous organizations. But when these men are defended, what do we tell the victims? What do we say to the women who've been on

the receiving end of violent perpetrators? Know that your voices aren't as important as those who are in powerful positions making decisions about vulnerable communities, communities that experience highest rates of domestic and family violence. We would not allow for those standards under any other circumstances in this country, certainly not if this was a non Indigenous person in a

chairperson's position. But half our problems as to why we cannot tackle the scourge of violence is because we make excuses for those who've got significant criminal history to be in positions of standing. But that's what's been brought to my attention over and over again, and I'm here to say it's not good enough if not let a woman

take that position. Like we talk about smashing the patriarchy when it comes to the western side of doing things, but no one encourages that in terms of looking at indigenous circumstances, women living under customer law and those sorts of things. When do we as Aboriginal women get to smash the patriarchy? When do we get to have our feminist movement.

Speaker 1

Bloody oath seeing it?

Speaker 2

I mean, what is so offensive about this situation as well is and I've only got about a minute hits, I'm sorry, but the idea that these people just keep going around and around and around the system as opposed to sorry, you don't get to play anymore.

Speaker 1

You don't get to be a leader because.

Speaker 2

You, by your own actions, have given up the right to call yourself one.

Speaker 5

Exactly right, exactly right. I mean when you when you have committed such heinous crimes, the expectation shouldn't be, Oh, this is going to be a great career move I can now step up in the world because I've stopped doing what I did in the past. No, no, no, go ahead, continue to do call out violence. If that's what you think you want to do as part of

you're being a changed person. But don't expect that you should be able to be in a powerful position that makes determinations for communities, vulnerable communities that should not be accepted at all.

Speaker 2

Good on you just set an ampagmper price fighter in all the different plays of social media.

Speaker 1

Give all the thanks to her. I love talking to her.

Speaker 2

Let's do it plenty more between now and fingers crossed when you become a minister.

Speaker 1

Thank you mate, all the best, thank you. She's the best, all right.

Speaker 2

The great James McPherson, the man who I will forever be thankful every time I look to this piece of jewelry, is up next with the Late Debut

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