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Paul Murray Live | 16 October

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Queensland Labor are lost and all out of ideas as early voting in Queensland gets underway. Plus, what the latest polls are saying about a potential second term for Donald Trump, just three weeks out from election night in the US. 

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Speaker 1

From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. How does my brace make it all the way from the man Cave? Anyway? We love sharing. Now, what are next few weeks we've got for you on this show? This show I love doing, but I love doing around big news and big events. This weekend we're going to be in Tasmania for our town. If you want to join us in long and send us an email at ourtown at scot News dot com dot au. Next week we're in Queensland doing a special pub test and of course

the election. The week after that we're in Washington. We will be there for more than a week. I cannot wait and I cannot wait to tell you what is going on each and every day. So let's start in the beautiful state of Queensland. Just two weeks to go now until the good people are queens they get the chance to get rid of this bloody, awful government. Voting has already started. Early voting started on Monday. We're into day three of it well and truly more than two

hundred thousand people have already voted. That is up on the same time four years ago. As people are ready to get rid of this government. Now, the Courier Mail did something very clever. They didn't just do a normal poll. They did a pole of the people who were voting early. They did this in about ten different seats and they asked about one thousand people. That's statistically quite relevant, and it was pretty much the same result on day one of early voting as it ended up being at the

end of the election. So let's have a look at what they've been able to follow. Have a look here. The LNP is up according to this exit pole, voting up by twelve and a bit percent, Labor down nine and a bit percent, KAP is down a little, the others are down a little, The Greens are down a little. The only green otherwise you can see is for one nation that's going to matter in a couple of different seats,

but obviously primary vote. This is a preferential election. If you've got a primary vote of let's say forty five and above, then most likely in a state that has places like the KAP and one Nation pulling some pretty big numbers in the areas that matter most. This is very good news for those of us that would like to see that change, but don't just assuming neighbors get to do it. You're the one that's going to have

to do it. The exit pole on day two of early voting indicates that voters in three Townsville seats and Mackay, along with several Southeast queens and electorates, are about to remove the nine year Labor government from office. They will do so in just two weeks from now, on Saturday, October the twenty sixth. Crime, cost of living are the number one issues that are worrying for Labor as its predicted loss of at least three ministers could be on

the cards, including with Megan Scanyon and Slick Mick Debrin Debrini. Now, let's have a look at seat by seat. Every one of these seats that you can see in your graphic is currently held by the Labor Party. Now cans you would say with thirty seven thirty six means that the

preferences of One Nation and the Greens really matter there. Now, I've often talked about in federal elections that if you vote, say, in this case, one Nation one, but you put the LNP second last and Labor last, there's a very good chance that you're going to end up with a Labor seat. Now, obviously most one Nation's people will they'll put the Green's

dead last. But my suggestion is if you want to get rid of the government, you vote one nation or cutter one and then obviously the LNP at number two. So cans line ball, but most likely it looks like it will end up falling based off those preferences. In Calundra, if you've got a fifty percent primary vote, well, obviously preferences will get you up and over the edge. They will win that seat. In the seat of Gavin, the

same thing. If you've got it in the mid to high forties in your primary vote up thirteen compared to Labour down eleven, you're looking good. In Green Slopes and in Mackay, the primary vote, according to the exit pole after the first couple of days, would show a massive jump of either one in five or one in four voters getting behind the LNP compared to where they were four years ago. I repeat, one Nation. Preferences matter, Greens

preferences matter, particularly in the seat of Cans. Let's keep looking seats of McConnell, Redlands, rock Hampton, Thuron Goer and in Springwood. You can see here too, a primary vote at forty six, fifty two, fifty six and fifty one. But in rock Hampton, the one nation preferences will decide who wins that seat. I repeat, if you want to vote one nation one, give them a chance to win the seat. Good luck to you. But number two is

who you want to be the government. If you want it to be the Labor Party or you want it to be the LNP, that's who you pick as your number two. Again, the primary vote up fifteen thirteen, nine, twenty five percent in Thur and Goer. That is phenomenal. Again, the numbers that came in were pretty accurate four years ago. It doesn't mean they're automatically accurate this time. All signs pointing in the right direction. But please please remember where

you put the major parties matter. You put them all last, you're going to get labor. You put the LNP way higher than Labor, you're more likely to get LNP And that obviously is what I believe Queensland does. Plenty of people voting early, they cannot wait to get rid of this government, will get more numbers by this time again tomorrow. Today in Brisbane there was a big event where the two major party leaders were meeting for one of another debate. The People's Forum will be in the final week of

the campaign. That's when we will be in Queensland next week, so the pressure will be on for that. Cannot wait to see what one hundred undecided Queensland voters have to say to the leaders directly. But here's four things I want to bring out of this debate today. Miles is pushing a lie. It is a lie that abortion is going to be changed in Queensland. Yes, there are some conservative lnpmps who would like a vote on it, but

it's not going to happen. And let's even imagine if there were some bizarre reason there was a conscience vote, all the Labor MPs, all the Greens MPs and the extreme majority of the LLNP would mean there will be no change. Doesn't mean Miles isn't trying to scare, particularly the women of Queensland.

Speaker 2

He can't give an honest answer what he believes when it comes to women's reproductive rights, despite being asked one hundred and thirty one times.

Speaker 1

Now it's just extraordinary, isn't it Okay they asked the question one hundred and thirty two times. He says the same thing one hundred and thirty two times. We're not changing. There's no different version of it. Yes, there are some people that will want to change, but there are some people inside the Labour Party who will want to change on the decriminalizing of drugs. The reality is is that David Chruso fully as the leader of the party. If

they have a majority, we'll go nowhere near it. The only vote that may take place is if the caateg Australia Party ends up in a position where they are required to help form a majority government. Now, yes, this is all statistically possible, it is all very possible. However, if there was a vote in the Parliament, the extreme majority of people would make no change. So that's the lie that he's going to push. He's pushing it in

his ads. It may well be effective, as inevitably polls do start to tighten, but I don't expect them to tighten anywhere that'll see miles even heading towards a minority government, let alone a majority government. For his part, David crucifully knows he hits a home goal a home run, rather or hits it for six every time youth crime or crime is brought up.

Speaker 3

What does it mean for Queensland to wake up on the twenty seventh of October to a fourth term and.

Speaker 4

Fourteen years of this government?

Speaker 3

What does it mean to Victor White who lost his wife allegedly at the hands of repeat young offenders and the other two hundred and eighty nine thousand, six hundred and fifty seven victims of the youth crime crisis? And what does it mean for the safety of your family in the next four years? Imagine waking up to four more years of that or a vote for change, a fresh start.

Speaker 1

Now. I like in these debates that they get an opportunity to ask each other questions. This was one about crime where Miles has gotten nowhere to.

Speaker 4

Run Premier Adult Crime.

Speaker 3

Adult Time is part of a plan to change youth's justice laws that your labor government weakened. Stephen, regardless of the election result next Saturday, will you today commit to making these laws by Christmas?

Speaker 2

Well, thanks for your question, David, And first of all, can I correct you that's not a plan. That is a slogan. It's a four word slogan that even your own team admits came out of a focus group.

Speaker 4

It's not thought through.

Speaker 2

You can't find a single expert to stand up with you and say it will make a difference. It's estimated to increase the detention population by fifty percent.

Speaker 4

You say that.

Speaker 2

Will happen by Christmas, but there is no detailed plan for how you will accommodate all of those additional detainees.

Speaker 4

I guess that's no.

Speaker 1

Now disgrace for a little bit of you know, jumping around. You saw there from Mars the new laws of adult crime at oult time will be introduced by Christmas. And then he turns around and tries to worry people that the prison population may increase by fifty percent. Good, it's what the people are coinslaying want. They want people who are committing violent crimes, regardless of whether they are teenagers, people in their twenties, or people who are much older

and should know much better, to go to jail forever. No, it's not murder, but people need to go to jail. If that is going to increase the number of people in the jails, then guess what, build bigger jails. I don't think anyone in Queensland would have a problem with the proposition that's being placed, but nice try for Miles to try to pretend that all of this must happen before the end of the year, the laws before the end of the year, and then by his own estimates,

a lot more people get locked up. Good crucifile. He needs to do better when he's answering questions about funding, particularly about tax.

Speaker 2

Thirty five times you or your shadow ministers have met with coal mining companies, executives.

Speaker 4

Or lobby groups.

Speaker 2

You gave a speech at a parliamentary function this week where you are sorry recently where you said they could take your commitments to the bank.

Speaker 1

What are those commitments that.

Speaker 4

When we said a tax scheme it should count for something.

Speaker 1

Now two weeks ago they're trying to save obviously the reality that half vote early, half vote on election day. They do need a little bit more meat on the bone. There no question whatsoever. But if anyone thinks that that is a reason why Queensand shouldn't change your government, you have not been paying attention to what's been happening in Queensland. But it from afar like me or those who live like oh so many, particularly watching us on Sky News Regional.

You've got the chance to make it change less than two weeks from now and final question Anastasia Palichet. Well, despite the fact that, of course we know that if she was at this election, she'd be facing pretty much the same result, the same drubbing. She got out, so she doesn't have to live with that legacy. But she was our But Stephen Miles was asked whether he's become his own man after being her deputy every single day of the last term of parliament.

Speaker 5

You both believe that you've been able to step out of the shadow of your predecessors and former Premier Anastagia Paloche and Campbell Newman.

Speaker 6

Who wants to jump.

Speaker 4

In here, Well, I reckon I have.

Speaker 2

I'm pretty pretty proud of what we've been able to do over these last ten months.

Speaker 1

Please this bloke, all he has done in the past ten months is turn a budget surplus into a budget deficit with the promise of an even deeper one so he can stand in front of a slogan. As for the idea that the LNP premiere three elections, please please, they've played that scare every single election to full effect. It will not work this time. But Queensland, it's not up to the polls. It's not up to me, it's up to you flush them and flush them hard, including

with your preferences. Three weeks to go tonight till we find out whether Donald Trump is going to be returned as the president of the United States or the vice president becomes the president of the United States for the next four years, both of them out and about on the trail Today. Donald Trump a couple of fainted at his event, so a little bit of dancing, bit of fun. And while the lefty media says, see this is an example his brain is columb collapsing before I very eyes.

Does anyone look like they're not having a good time there? And as Andrew Bolt showed you a bit earlier tonight, people who were at the rally said, I love it. I could have gone for another couple of hours. Kamala Harris was on the radio late today where she was doing an interview, which is why there's no new pictures of her, and very strangely for a person who is this close potentially to the presidency, her first event wasn't

until four o'clock this afternoon. Now, you would think with just a couple of weeks to go, you'd be getting up in one state, going to another state for lunch and going to bed in another state. How much does she want it? It can't all play it in the media.

You've got to get out in front of people. Tomorrow her big day, and we'll be covering it here at Live on Sky News at ten o'clock Australia in eastern daylight time, which is Kamala Harris will be doing a thirty minute interview live to tape, no editing with Fox News. I'll be here with Laura Jays tomorrow morning to sell you what I think of what hopefully will be the begining car crash yet for Kamala Harris. But we'll all

wait and see. As for the bookies, the bookies are getting even stronger behind the idea that three weeks from now Trump will win. Why because you can see Pennsylvania is now starting to get shaded red. According to the Lad's polls, Trump is winning in all bar one of the swing states. Now, as I've explained and shown you before, but I will show you again as we get a bit closer to the election. Four years ago, the polls were off. They undercounted him anywhere between two and four

percent depending on the state. So if he's up by one or even half a percent, then you've got to expect the same mistake even if it was halved and was a two percent problem. Well, if he's in front, that would get him over the line. To give you an idea specifically about Pennsylvania, the state that will eventually crown the winner, these are the five most recent polls. They show Trump winning, Harris winning, Trump winning, Trump winning, Trump winning, which is why the bookies are flowing the

way they are on the prediction models. Kamala Harris has gone from a strong chance of winning the presidency a week ago to now fifty point one percent chance. When my mate Lako tells you during a car race that the leader is here, but the person who's coming up is coming up very fast behind them, that's exactly what's happening here. Now I'm going to show you again why Trump's trajectory will overtake Harris, not by a huge amount. Have a look at this now. Biden dropped out July

the twenty eighth. That is the far left of your screen with Trump way in front, Democrats way down. It then crossed over where the Democrats, or in this case, Harris started beating Trump after she picked her vice president. Then Kennedy started to Kennedy dropped out. That's when Trump started to pick up again. The Leader's debate happened. Trump started to fall. Then there was the vice presidential debate, when Harris peaked and started to fall again. Trump started

to rise. Now, basically you can see in those numbers that it's about a two week gap between when there is a turnover one way that goes the other way. With just three weeks to go, presumably, unless there is some major issue in this, Trump keeps going up ever so slightly, takes the lead, and then we'll see where we are one week from today. But if you are backing Trump, all of it is starting to flow his way, which is why the media is setting its hair on fire.

I'll show you that and get a comment from Megan Kelly before we get into our debate tonight. What about Albo's brand new coastal home, his mansion on a cliff top. Well, this bloke, of course, things so on. Nothing to see here. I'm just changing my life arrangements, blah blah blah. You know, he was selling a joint for one point nine, He's bought one now for four point three. He's planning to

rent it out. He's not living in this thing, so this is just a pure rubbing people's faces in it that at a time of financial crisis, he's the one who's living it up large and no matter when he gets the backside as the Prime Minister, that'll be his view for the rest of his life and at least

one of his houses. The guardians worked out that the joint that he's brought used to be rented out at nine hundred dollars a night as a five star AIRB and B, a lot better than most of the places that you and I live in let alone would have as a second place for later in life. How are the reviews going and the otherwise friendly press Sidney Morning Herald Labour MP's baffled by PM's four point three million

dollar cliff Top perfection home. By at least four MPs who were asked not to be named so they could speak freely to the newspaper, have expressed frustration with the Prime Minister's decision. One of them says, I can't think of a greater act of self sabotage in my life. I'm gobsmacked. If you're a labor MP up against agreeing at the next election. Good luck. Another one. Some people within Labor were aware and tried to stop it. My instinct is that this is well as you can see.

Certain word terrible. Another one. The idea that his missus is someone from the Central Coast and wants to live up there, but they grew up there is fair enough, but it's just not a good look. Two more said, at the very least he should have done it after the election, or maybe after the wedding. As for the Libs, they couldn't be enjoying a freeer kick.

Speaker 6

Is the Prime Minister out of touch?

Speaker 7

I've been saying he's out of touch for a long time.

Speaker 8

I just think that the timing and the tone of this one, it has been a little bit tone deaf.

Speaker 2

I think the timing of this is questionable by the Prime Minister.

Speaker 1

Not just the timing, it's the decision as well as for my colleague Harry marks In about an hour ago, she had a great little exclusive and jeez, wasn't this convenient when he bought the house. That happened happened to be advantaged by his own government's use of taxpayer money.

Speaker 9

Prime Minister Anthony Albinizi personally announced that his government would spending one hundred million dollars to upgrade the road that you guessed it leads right to his new four million dollar house. I can reveal that in June this year Albanezi personally spoke about a Voker Drive undergoing a major upgrade.

Speaker 1

Unbelievable. And we've all heard one thing too many times since this bloke was the Opposition leader and then became the Prime Minister.

Speaker 10

I grew up in a public housing where my mum lived in the same one house for all of her sixty five years. It's how I have got to a position of the son of a single mum who grew up in public housing, to be running for prime minister of this country. One of reason is why I'm standing here as Prime Minister of Australia is the fact that I had a secure roof over my head of public housing.

Speaker 1

Please please well even again, The Sidney Morning Herald part of the very friendly group of people who love to come to the Prime Minister's defense. They write an opinion piece today or they published one where somebody said, all right enough, no more of the council flat story. Well, I think of Australians were brought of it a lot more before today, but certainly his capacity to go back to it. And what about lovely lefties who no doubt would love to be going and doing a kitchen cabinet

in the Prime Minister's new coastal retreat. Old made Annabelle crab the Prime Minister's news beach house has just made his job and his colleagues much harder. So even when normally the phone of friends all come in and back him in from labour MPs to the love he's over at Channel two. They know how bad this thing is for those who had to go on television to try to defend it today. Well, old clueless Clare O'Neil, who was there yesterday when all of this became po we're

just doing such a great job. Well you're a great prime minister, thanks for demoting me. This was how she defended herself on Channel seven today Or is the Daily Mail correctly put it that the Housing Minister gave an eye watering answer for why the Prime Minister had decided to make the purchase at a time when there's not enough places for people to rent, let alone him to rent out another joint.

Speaker 7

The PM addressed this really extensively yesterday, Nat and I think we all understand and acknowledge that he's entitled to have a personal life and to purchase property as he needs to do. He's about to embark on a new life with his incredible fiance and I know we wish him all the best in that.

Speaker 1

Now, the reason this doesn't fly is he doesn't live in the family house from his former marriage. He leaves in one of two taxpayer funded mansions. His plan is to be the Prime Minister for as long as they print calendars and sell them an office works, so the need for him to buy the place for them to retire to is nothing urgent. It's just literally because he can. And yes, as a private citizen, does he have a right to do it. Sure, But does it get to

go uncommented No, Welcome to the big boy world. The Prime Minister would be more than happy to leap into a liberal who did it, so he's got to be willing to copy it from those of us who say that he is out of touch. Good on Jane Hume for the way she pushed back on Rise this morning when that rubbish was being served up.

Speaker 8

I do have a problem with the timing and I do have a problem with the fact that this is very tone deaf during a housing crisis.

Speaker 6

It's unfortunate that Claire is the.

Speaker 8

Housing Minister, is the one that's being sent out to clean up this mess. She's right in saying that everybody has a right to a personal life, There's no doubt about that. And the Prime Minister has every right to make plans for his retirement. But I think that there's plenty of Australians and probably some of his colleagues now that would like to see that happen sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1

I can't wait. Prom and Bishop Stephen Conroyal, they would have made this in a whole lot more in a couple of moments time. And just on the rental market where we know that the cues they go around the block, where people who try to look for places that are available in places like Ipswich, literally one hundred people apply for just one spot. We learned today via mates at sky ONews dot com dot are you Great website? Make it your homepage? Merely one percent of rentals comfortably afford

many essential workers anglicate with those numbers out today. I thing to see here, Prime Minister is there, there's always plenty, and we'll for show you. Also, I didn't fall for the lie last night from the Prime Minister. Now the rest of the media was more than happy to pretend that he was about to make a major decision that we have suggested, that I've suggested before on this program is exactly what should happen, which is we shouldn't be paying fees to access our own money.

Speaker 8

Irritating debit card surcharges could be a thing of the past within two years under a major federal government crackdown.

Speaker 11

The Alberanzi government says it's prepared to ban debit card surcharges if re elected next year.

Speaker 12

Sneaky surcharges on debit cards could be banned in a year or so.

Speaker 1

Now you notice a year or so if we're re elected, the parliament still has plenty of time before the next federal election. There will be many sitting days between now and the end of the year, and a few before we do go off to an election whenever that is next year. If it requires the parliament, I would imagine that the opposition would agree unanimously this stuff should go, and it should go now, because, as we know, after the pandemic. The extreme majority of Australians are tapping and going.

Of those, a very significant number using debit cards. Now these debit cards means it's your money. There's nobody having to access credit credit card charges find they can still exist. But if places want us to be able to do tap and go, it shouldn't cost us or them to do so. The financial institutions who do this are underwritten by the federal government, meaning they shouldn't be passing on even sneaky versions of these fees. So don't tell me

that anyone's going to be missing out. The banking sector is multiple billion dollars worth of profit. They can do without whatever hundreds of millions of dollars they make out of this. But how does the Prime Minister get credit for announcing a plan for a review for somebody else to make a decision that fingers cross maybe might result in the cards having the charges removed. The charges should go now, Peter Dutton, this s.

Speaker 13

Actually planned for a plan and this Prime Minister are always promises but never delivers. And we're very happy to look at anything the government's going to propose. But it's not an announcement, it's just that they're looking at it and it could come in in twenty twenty six. Australian families need help now from this government.

Speaker 1

All right, now, let's talk about the CFMAU because there's a few things worth mentioning that have gone a little bit quiet as we've been distracted by everything else happening in the world. Now. The CFMAU have been, in my view, the bad guys the construction industry for a very long time. There have been multiple governments that have introduced standing royal commissions because of their behavior. They are known to have

broken the law multiple times on multiple fronts. Royal commissions have come again, and then of course the Building and Construction Commission came and went. We know that they don't mind a march in the street and the absurdity of their union power means that if you happen to be lucky enough to be working on a CFMEU site and you're holding up the stop go sign, you can get paid as much as two hundred thousand dollars of the walk off the job. It's not good enough, it's not acceptable.

We certainly know of the past couple of months plenty

of wrongdoing has been exposed. We know there have been attempts to distance and attempts to bring in an administrator, but there's something even more wrong with this organization, as we learned today via the reporting of David Crow and Olivia Island in the Channel on newspapers, the Fair Work Australia's got forty two different probes into the standout a tactics or coercion of the CFMEU and corruption that wasn't already exposed by among others, Nick mackenzie in the sixty

Minutes program from a few months ago. But again there is a figure who would not normally get a shout out from me, but is somebody who is being directly victimized by those who do not like the pushing aside of the CFMMEU. And it's the boss of the ACTU, Sally McManus now Salie McManus and I would disagree on almost everything, but she's a person who apparently is starting to fear for her safety because of wishments that are

slowly being handed out to the CFMEU. She gave an interview recently on the ABC where she talked about how she's had to change her movements to and from work because somebody is trying to threaten her.

Speaker 4

I don't go out much. I've had to change my routines.

Speaker 5

I live between different places. That's life unfortunately at the moment, because we're standing up to those people and that as a price to pay for that.

Speaker 1

Now, this is not acceptable. It is not acceptable. Salemia Manus can say whatever she wants during a job, but she should be absolutely safe on the way too and from it and when she is at home. This group is radioactive. This is a group who no political party, including the Greens, should be finding a way to sidle up to. The police should be doing their best to try to pull this group apart, and every state and federal government should be doing their best their best to

rid this organization from the Australian workplace. That's just the reality. Why because you have a very powerful, strong and independent head of the ACTU saying this on radio publicly about clearly what she's been feeling privately for.

Speaker 5

Too long, thev helped understand the situation and the things that you've got to do as a result.

Speaker 12

Yeah.

Speaker 5

So, I mean, hopefully over time that'll get better, but you know, we're not walking away from what's got to happen now.

Speaker 1

While it is not ultraspecific to what's happening with Salem McManus, the general sensation of being stalked is something I want to talk about today. The Australian Bureau of Statistics gave us a shocking insight into a number of men and women who are being stalked at some point in their life after the age of fifteen. Now have a look at this.

About two million women have been stalked at some point in their life, about six hundred and fifty three thousand men women one point nine million have been stalked by a man, three hundred and thirty three thousand have been stalked by a man, and more women are stalking men than men are stalking men here at three hundred and forty two thousand compared to two hundred and forty two

thousand that have been stalking females. What does stalking mean? Well, thankfully they gave us a definition of those that have been stalked. The best part of what two point six million people in Australia. Seventy eight percent say that they have been stalked via the phone, the postal service, email, text messages or social media, they're loitering or hanging around a location that be it their work, their gym, or

maybe their home, literally being followed or tracked. More than half of the two point six million victims that we know about of stalking, twenty six percent have seen inappropriate online posting or outright impersonation of them fake Twitter profiles and Instagram profiles. People are being interfered with or their property being damaged. Again, about a quarter sixteen percent have left objects where they would be found that were offensive

or disturbing. Two point six million people. Now, if we've got the boss of the ACTU who is saying she's got to look over a shoulder and change your address, what about those who don't have the financial means to change their address. If there is a complaint made to police, it is very serious. It is borderline deadly serious. Men, women being stalked by men or women, All of it

very serious. While I would hope that there is not a single person watching who has done this to somebody who they allegedly cared about at one point in your life, can I give you the tip, no matter how heartbroken you are being for whatever reason, stop stop right now. Stop with the texts. Stop with the emails, stop with the phone calls, with the letterbox drops, stop with the turning up, stop with the random phone calls to their parents.

It's over, it's done. Life moves on. You have to, as I said, I'd return to what was happening in the United States just three weeks ago. Tonight, three weeks from tonight is when the results will be clear. We'll be on the rooftop in Washington, d C. After being part of an all day coverage, and of course many days between now and then. What an exciting time every night this week, Tazzy, next week, Queensland, the week after,

into the United States. Always be here, set the DVR, get the podcast nine o'clock astraight in the eastern daylight time, each and every night here on Sky News. So, as I say, latest headlines, Donald Trump starting to get in front in all the key swing states. He's starting to look like he tonight, three weeks out, is winning this election. The media's response, they are turning it right up to Nuttsville.

Speaker 14

You know, you could say Trump was already a dangerous character before, but clearly losing the night the twenty twenty election has not improved his sense of fair play or thinking about the country over his own personal benefit. There were these moments where he would be honked about something and he would kind of ramble.

Speaker 6

I mean, this is kind of classic Donald Trump. For people who've covered him for a long time. We are used to seeing him have a discursive speaking style.

Speaker 11

But it has gotten more rambling, it has gotten more incoherent, and it's gotten longer.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they're trying to pretend that he is now Boden when Biden was Biden, and they all tell us that that was misinformation. They lied. Then they are lying now, all right, Like we'll dislike Donald Trump, pleas he ain't know Joe Biden when it comes to what's going on upstairs. As for Kamala Harris, it doesn't matter what fee she can stoke. She's trying to pretend that the bloke who's already been president and America survived will somehow bring the country to an end.

Speaker 15

Do you please respond to Trump's claim that he's going to use the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight to round up immigrants if he wins the election. This law was last used to put Asian Americans in internment camps during World War Two, and I have a sneaking suspicion that if Trump wins, He's going to use this law to put anyone that doesn't look weight in camps. And I'm scared.

Speaker 12

Yeah, so you've hit on a really important point and expressed it. I think so well, which is he is achieving his intended effect.

Speaker 1

Atter rubbish didn't happen four years ago, it might be happening over the next four years. Feeding And then about twenty four hours ago, as she's trying to reach out to black male voters who are not voting in the same intensity that they did in previous elections for Democrats, because up to a quarter may well end up voting for Trump, she put out this tweet that was all aimed at ideas to win back male black voters. The first a million loans that are fully forgivable up to

twenty thousand dollars. So that's not a line, that's a giveaway. Oh yeah, and she'll legalize marijuana, free lanes and pot. Meghan Kelly has something to say later in the show.

Speaker 6

The thing with the black voters is so disgusting.

Speaker 11

You tell me what they would say about a white candidate, say Trump, who decided to appeal to black voters by being like, I'll legalize weed. I know what you people want.

Speaker 1

It is literally racist. It is truly racist. But of course, because it's from the lefties, it's all just outreach Meghan Kelly in a moment or two time before then a ding dong battle. As always Bromba, Bishop Stephen Conry, you are in exactly the right place, not just tonight, but for at least the next month. Pull Murray Lave on Sky News two weeks to go to Queensland. We will be in Queensland next week. If you would like to join us for a special edition of the pub Test.

Our special guest will be Peter Dutton taking questions from the audience. If you would like to join us this time next week next Wednesday, send me an email. Pub Test at skynews dot com dot A. You are you in Brisbane? Can you get to Brisbane for next Wednesday. We'll talk about the state election and we'll talk about things with the alternative Prime Minister next week here on Sky News. Let's fill the room tonight, Okay. Pub Test at skynews dot com dot AU. The carry out a

champ on Wednesday night is none of them. Bromin Bishop the one who's just here to help and always somehow like Lucy in the football can't just kick that final goal, but he's all dressed up and he's here to help. With Stephen Conroy. So two weeks ago, when it comes to the Queensland election, Stephen, our first start with you. Are you hearing anything from Queensland that things are slightly closer than they see?

Speaker 16

Look, I think it's very hard when you're trying to seek a fourth term. You're going to struggle in modern politics, and so I think the result is going to be a tough night for Labor on all indications at the moment. I haven't heard anything from any of my good friends up there to suggest that there's a late swing back to us at this stage. So I think it's going to be a tough night. But it's three terms.

Speaker 1

But you know.

Speaker 16

The Premier is giving it a red hot go. But I think, yeah, the Olds just stacked against him just because twelve years very hard to ask for sixteen.

Speaker 1

Yeah, this is what David Christofoli had to say in that Leader's debate today.

Speaker 4

They're not the numbers of drivers.

Speaker 3

They can't be when you think about what Queensland's going through at the moment. We've got an ambulance ramping at forty five percent.

Speaker 4

That drives me.

Speaker 1

He's referring, of course, to that exit poll which apparently was quite close to the final result last time. It shows labor with sorry that lives up in twenty five percent in some seats. What do you reckon?

Speaker 17

Well, I think they are going to win, But I think the most important thing about the selection news that the Greens go last.

Speaker 1

Bloody Earth.

Speaker 17

It's taken a long time to achieve, but that's a very, very important move. They are truly a vile party.

Speaker 1

Let's talk about Trump and Harris three weeks till this very night when we will find out what's going to happen Bromwin. Do you think like I do, that the numbers tonight are all leading in what we would believe is the right direction.

Speaker 17

Yes, I do, And I don't know whether they have adjusted their polling to factor in the reluctance of people to truly say how they're going to vote. But when Kamala first came in, I thought, oh, she'll get a sugar hit.

Speaker 1

And she did.

Speaker 17

But the more I watch it, it's vacuous, and I am filled with terror should she win, because America would be just so so weak. But I'm also very concerned. I think Obama's looking for a fourth term. He's been running Biden. He would really have preferred his own wife as the candidate, but that was a stretch too far for Biden, so he figures it can run Camilla anyway.

Speaker 1

Well, the good news is that Steven says going for a fourth term is difficult. May that be the case out against Stephen? Tell me where I'm wrong in some of the trajectories, right, I don't want anyone to think that I'm saying slam dunk Trump. That's it. He's won and we all look like the Hillary supporters from sixteen. But what do you think about what I presented as the bulk of where things are pointing?

Speaker 16

I think the poles have narrowed. I mean, as you've been focused on it's the seven key swing states, and you've been focused on, here's what the poles in these

states have been pointing to. The only you know, the only thing about all of these poles over the last month or six weeks even is they're all within what you would call the margin of ras half a point or one point or you know, one and a half points, which are all within the margin of eraror now they could equally be all wrong in different directions, and there is I think you make the point, and Bromwin makes a point that there is the reluctance of Trump voters

to identify. So it's really down to and I think you said, Paul, in sixteen and twenty the Poles under scored Trump, but in twenty two in the mid terms in the US, the Poles overstated the Republican vote. So there there are two things I'm trying to balance between. You know, what are these you know, within margin of errors made, but you'd have to say it's titans. And you know, the Trump camp are sounding confident and the word out of a Democrat camp is that they're starting to get nervous.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, look again, without boring everyone with the super detail on this, ideally you want to freak out two weeks out, not three weeks out, because theoretically you might be able to do something about the freak out. But can I just show you again Nate Silver, the bloke he used to run the Stats Guy at five point thirty eight again the race when it was Biden clear lead for Trump, then the switch back under the

sugar hit. Then then of course the big swing back to Trump when she wasn't doing the wasn't answering anything. Then after that first debate where he obviously lost, and then he's been able to now start to pull things back in a trajectory that, as you say, you don't just sit. You see, there's a lot of crossover, and once it crosses over, it stays crossed over for a

little while. Let's talk again about a little gift that is being given to Kamala Harris, particularly in the states with significant Arab American populations, is that Joe Biden has said, you've got thirty days to give more raid rather than bombs to the people of Gaza, or we're going to cut off the American bombs that help defend Israel Bromin. Obviously, it's very convenient to offer this up. Thirty days is longer than the election, meaning it can be dangled in

front of these voters. The reality, I don't think they'll ever pull such a move. But what do you think, Well, I'm.

Speaker 17

Looking at Michigan with two hundred and forty two thousand Muslims, and I think that's domestic politics again, just as the same thing happens here, and I just think it pathetic. But it is very worrying to see on the international scene how weak the Democrats are in their commitment to democracy. Yes, they've given the additional defense mechanism to protect as well more, but I mean Israeli's circled.

Speaker 1

But also, Stephen, how does this not now? Again? I understand why the Biden administration is trying to send its smoke signal that way in a state that is won by a point here or a point there, But isn't it also a smoke signal to Iran that get ready in thirty days time, or even in the lead up to thirty days time, we might have you back.

Speaker 16

Well, look, firstly, I think you very correctly point out that it's after the election. What I think they're responding to is that there is Michigan has been a pretty good state for Camale she was installed, and Michigan is a worry that it's starting to slip and become possibly your Trump state off the back of clearly a drop off in support in that Muslim community. So I understand why they're playing that politics. But I agree entirely with you, Paul.

It's very cynical. It's not till after the election, and it won't matter. It won't matter a zot after the election.

Speaker 1

Either at thirty seconds you can take the full or give Stephen fifteen albow and his new house Bromwin Well.

Speaker 17

Albo is now looking like the retired prime minister.

Speaker 1

He's checked out.

Speaker 17

He has a perfectly good house for her to live in in Marrickville, which is his place of residence. I just feel that the selfishness she is, selfishness of the man not to consider the plight of his own team, these marginal seat people who are tearing their hair at this stage. I would say, so everything he touches crashes. Whether it's the voice, whether it's the economy, it doesn't matter what it is. It just turns to absolute Well. I can't use that.

Speaker 1

Word Stephen literally one word answer helpful or two words unhelpful.

Speaker 16

I think it's been a tricky couple of days for him, with a focus completely away from the issues that they need to be focused on.

Speaker 1

All right, thank you, guys, do appreciate it. Again. Next week a couple of go to America. We'll be washing up or getting ready for Queens and next week as well. All right, quick break back with more. Meghan Kelly lots to say from the States, and she is more fired up than I've ever seen her before. Don't go anywhere than the late debate. About fourteen from now. Our favorite person to talk to in the entire world is Meghan Kelly from the United States. Just three weeks to go

until the presidential election. We will know the results, hopefully this day. Three weeks from now. Meghan love you to see you.

Speaker 6

I mean three weeks.

Speaker 11

This is it and you can feel it in the messaging on her side. Trump is slow and steady, wins the race. He's not changed a thing. He's still putting himself out there. Just today he did a very contentious interview on economics, which was actually amazing. And you watch him sitting on stage for an hour and a half with this guy who clearly doesn't like him, and he took him on, he challenged him. Trump was actually pretty respectful.

They sparred, but the point was, can you imagine Kamala Harris going an hour and a half with adversarial media. She has, however, changed her approach, and that includes putting herself out there at all. As you know, she was running like a basement campaign similar to President Biden when he ran in twenty twenty up until very recently, and obviously it wasn't working. There's zero chance they'd be taking the risks that they're taking now if they had good

internal polling. You don't mess with the race if you have good internal polling. It's just more of the same, including going on Fox News on Wednesday night and weirdly putting out that she's in talks with Joe Rogan about possibly doing Rogan Show, which seems kind of hard to believe, like, apparently he's going to do Trump.

Speaker 6

Trump's going to do Rogan, which is good. Ah, is he really going to do Kamala?

Speaker 11

And by the way, even if he does, how on earth is she going to say yes to that? There is zero chance she can handle three hours live on Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1

Now, let's talk about Harris. You believe the data is she's starting to lose touch, but she's always a chance in a fifty to fifty race. She went on with the view she was asked questions like, so, what would you differently than Biden's done for the past four years. She couldn't answer the question. By this time tomorrow, she will have done an interview with Bret bear Over on Fox News. But he's going to hit her harder than

anyone's hit her in the entire campaign. If she couldn't do the view, how's she going to be able to do Fox?

Speaker 11

The bar is low and the left will declare this victory if she doesn't walk away druling.

Speaker 6

You know, she went into the lions Den and she did fine.

Speaker 11

You know that's probably the going to be the takeaway without having seen it yet, but yeah, the stakes are high for Brett. I've known Brett for twenty years. I mean, I've anchored countless hours of television with Brett and seeing him do countless interviews.

Speaker 6

He's going to do fine. Brett's good.

Speaker 11

He's a mild mannered guy, but he can be aggressive in an interview in a totally appropriate way. He never emerges with somebody's jugular. But I predict he will follow up with the question was madam? The question was like, he's not going to let her just go on her little sojourns without reeling her back in come over here, I direct this interview, so I think we'll get that,

which will be very satisfying. I definitely think he's going to ask her tough questions, you know, more pointed than we've heard in any other interview so far, and I think, thankfully a lot of them will come from a perspective of what conservatives want to see her asked. That's been

one of our big frustrations, right. All of her questions, even the ones that are mildly challenging, are basically being asked by leftists who are trying to figure out the way we want questions asked and what might satisfy us. You know, like that guy in sixty minutes who was asking her about the border, why didn't you do it sooner?

Speaker 6

Why didn't you do it sooner?

Speaker 11

That's fine, but what really needed to be asked was why did you reverse all of Trump's executive orders tightening the border on day one of this administration. That's the real question is not why didn't you as a border bill earlier? It's like, why did you subvert the secure border from day one? I predict you will hear more pointed questions like that from Brett. The one frustration is

we'll have two frustrations. Number One, Fox News is going to want ongoing access to her, both for the next three weeks and if this thing is like a sustained contest in the month or two thereafter, and if she's elected in the four to eight years thereafter. So they do have to be mindful of not blowing it up entirely in one interview. And I'm sure that they represented to her that it would be respectful and fair, which it will be.

Speaker 6

So that's one thing they need to worry about.

Speaker 11

And the other thing is they only have thirty minutes, and once she gets filibustering, it's hard, especially if you're a man, to keep interrupting her.

Speaker 6

You know how she is.

Speaker 11

I'm speaking, mister bear, I'm speaking, so to some extent, he's going to have to let her filibuster here and there and pick his moments of aggressively interrupting.

Speaker 1

Now, as we get closer three weeks Togo, nothing is subtle anymore. We know that she's got some problems with black men, a significant percentage he's going to vote for Trump. Majority will still vote for her. But what about her outreach program basically free lines, you don't have to pay back and.

Speaker 6

Marijuana because she stinks of desperation. That's why she's desperate.

Speaker 11

They must have seen some horrifying information on those internal polls. There is no other reason to be this obvious in your pandering. I mean, the thing with the men is just so amusing to watch from afar.

Speaker 6

Truly.

Speaker 11

You can just see them with looking at their horrid numbers, with men going, is there anyone here who's ever shot a bird or anything? Raise your hand if you've ever shot anything? Yeah, a pheasant, Yes, we'll take it. Okay, get out there. And then Tim Walls completely bumbles it. He can't even load his gun. All the real hunters are like, oh my god, that's horrifying. They can tell it's fake. They know this is a photo op. He, by the way, according to the reports.

Speaker 6

Didn't even fire his weapon forget get a bird. He didn't get a bird. He didn't even fire his weapon one time.

Speaker 11

And I think men who they're trying to appeal to, who are hunters, they're seeing right through it.

Speaker 6

The thing with the black voters is so disgusting.

Speaker 11

You tell me what they would say about a white candidate, say Trump, who decided to appeal to black voters. By being like, I'll legalize weed. I know what you people want. You want to be high all the time. I'll help you out. Oh and by the way, I'll help you out on bitcoin too, because what you like to do is get high and then make risky bitcoin bets in the market.

Speaker 6

That's what I think of you.

Speaker 11

What an insult right to the distinguished, well educated, non high drug population or black population out there that says, I don't do drugs, I don't know anything about bitcoin. I do know about your horrid economy, and i'd like you to speak to that right. Her whole proposal is assumes you have nothing and you need mother Mama law to come in there and save you. It's just absolutely insulting for me on the outside. It's fun to watch because she clearly doesn't know how to do it, and

neither does her team. And that's nice for a change, because usually the Democrats are very good at the panda.

Speaker 6

It's just time is short.

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