Paul Murray Live | 16 June

a moment or two time. And can you believe this moment in history today on the sixteenth of June, ten years to the day since Donald Trump came down the escalator. What a decade it has been. We'll look back at the highest, the lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, all of that business. And a reminder in a couple of Sundays time, not this Sunday. Next Sunday, we are going to be in Newcastle. Shout out to all look friends, family and viewers of the program.

It stops us in our boots and let me tell you about what took place today in a place called North Mottam. Now, according to the police information that was released at the time, police attended a residential property on Allison Road in relation to routine duties shortly after eleven am. Now, what apparently was taking place was that a constable who had been in the force for some time, was handing a warrant or was given the task of handing a warrant.

A member of the public then allegedly shot the police officers the officer approached the house. Another police officer consequently discharged their firearm towards the alleged offender, who then surrendered to police. The police officer who was critically injured and died at the scene. The alleged defender was not seriously injured. The Police Commissioner in Tasmania now the family of the officer have asked for him not to him or not to be named at this exact moment. But this is

what we know about the situation. From the head of the police force in.

the Tasmanian Premier are offered a written statement today. He will obviously offer further condolences when more information comes forward, and it is with the deepest sadness that Tasmanian police officers lost their life in a tragic shooting in the Western District. To everyone who had the honor of knowing this off officer, the love of an entire state is

with you. Now. I say this about the show being pro cop all right, because the men and women of the various police forces and the federal police are the people who run towards what the rest of us would run away from or would be the worst day of our lives. They don't own enough money, they work too many hours, the paperwork becomes arduous, the court system endlessly

lets them down. But on nights like this, when an officer has died doing their job, we are reminded of the sacrifice that every single officer makes every single day when they kiss their families goodbye. On the behalf of anyone watching us in Tasmania, but of course the wider nation strength and love to this officer's family, to the wider family of policing, and to any and everyone who has worn that uniform or wears those uniform, thank you for what you do, because it is potentially Deadly Work.

Police Remembrance Day each and every year is a day to honor those who have died while on duty. Sadly, another name will be added to that list. This year, the Australian Prime Minister met with the Canadian Prime Minister. These two blokes could be the luckiest people in world politics. Why because they were leading teams that were down in

the polls. And then of course Donald Trump interfered by being Donald Trump in many ways that it meant that the new Canadian Prime Minister and the current Australian Prime Minister were able to get not just back over the line, but thumping electoral victories, and both in Australia and Canada, opposition leaders who looked like they were on a path to being the leaders of their country both lost their seat. Again.

The X factor in and around it is Donald Trump, first, the fifty first state talk about Canada, and then tariffs and the subsequent stock market panic, which by the way, as you know, has been totally replaced and the stock market has hit new highs, record highs in recent days. But as you know, there is going to be a meeting of world leaders that will include the Australian Prime Minister. A few eagle eyes have noticed the G seven hang on, How's the G seven got Australia in it as Australian

member of the G seven. No, but technically this thing is going to be referred to as the G seven plus meeting, which means a few extras will be along for the ride, including the Australian Prime Minister. And as you know, there is going to be a meeting between the Australian Prime Minister who had previously he said that Donald Trump had scared the bleep out of him in

the past. A man who in many ways was able to supercharge his own political performance by running against Donald Trump, will now be looking the President of the United States in the eye. It won't be in the Oval Office, but it will be to the side of these meetings

which are taking place in Canada this week. A man who has known Donald Trump professionally and personally for many years, a man who met him in the Oval Office, of course, in the many months leading up to the state visit Scott Morrison, where Australia was one of his two countries who received the honor of being afforded a state dinner in the first Trump presidency. Well, he offered some advice.

Whether it be taken up or not, I don't know, but it seems to be the best possible advice about, regardless of what has been said or done in the past, about how to get on the front foot when you first meet the most powerful man in the world. Joe Hockey of course, the former Australian Ambassador to the United States.

and Australia. Why because in the great battle of freedom when it comes to the world, I want the United States at the top of the table above any other nation when it comes to the leader of the free world. And there are some incredible attitudes that Australians have and seemingly have confused between who they have greater trust in, but yet America to lead the way or China another crazy poll. I'll get to it in a moment or two's time, but one thing they probably shouldn't bring up

is how much they are paid. As you know, I told you last week, the fourth pay rise for the Prime Minister since he became the Prime Minister has been approved by the Renumeration Tribunal, an extra fourteen and a half thousand dollars for somebody who well and truly doesn't need it. Why because he've got one of two publicly funded mansions, let alone everyone who's on the teat When it comes to ministers, top public servants or even backbenches,

regardless of whether they are in the House or the Senate. Well, the City Morning Herald today in the nine papers actually compared how much we pay our prime minister compared to world leaders. Have a look at this. Believe it or not, The Australian Prime minister is the fourth highest paid, repeat the fourth highest paid of all of the world leaders

at the top echelons. Singapore pay their prime minister two and a half million dollars, Hong Kong pay its chief executive one point one million dollars, the President of Switzerland eight hundred and seventy seven thousand, then the Australian Prime minister six hundred and twenty two thousand. Now I love Australia, but twenty seven million people versus three hundred and fifty million,

and the leader of the free world. Because the American president is paid less than the Australian prime minister, the Canadian prime minister is paid less than the Australian. New Zealand's prime minister four hundred and seventy four thousand dollars. In Japan their prime minister four hundred and thirty six one thousand dollars, Australia's Prime minister six hundred and twenty two thousand keys Stamer is paid. This is dollars, not

pounds three hundred and sixty five. And then we go through Denmark and eventually thirty two thousand dollars is what the Prime Minister of India gets paid. So probably don't talk about what turns up in your bank account on

the fifteenth of the month. Today, June sixteenth, a momentous day when it comes to politics, because it is ten years to the day that modern politics changed forever when Donald J. Trump formally announced that he was running for the presidency of the United States back in twenty fifteen. You remember the moment when he came down the golden escalator, Well,

that is ten years ago tonight. God little tip if you ever get the chance to go to Trump Tower, and I have obviously as a tourist, the escalators don't work like that for everyone else. You notice that he's sort of won escalator back. Well, the escalator that is closest to the atrium, that's the one that goes down. The one that he went down is the one that goes up. But hence it's the power of a potential president. But like you ten years right, like in a flick,

you just go ten years. My goodness, how did that pass so fast? Or of course for the Trump haters, it's been a lifetime. But can we just just for a second, just a second, just have a think about what's happened in the past ten years on this day, ten years ago, down the escalator and he made a speech that people could still quote to this day, positively or negatively.

in all the machine on his side. But of course the media, well, just as they do ten years later. This was their attitude back then.

all the rest of it. But then, of course, the bloke who was able to push him out of office, well, he didn't have to run for office, did he. He was in the basement thanks to the results of what had got out of control in China when it came to the coronavirus, and Biden ended up basically reversing the fortunes and won by about the same margin that Trump

had done four years earlier. We know that Trump didn't accept the results, and in part because of how he didn't accept those results, an incredible further moment of history. All of this in the past ten years. Remember when there was a mug shot, the first ever mugshot of a former president. This of course was in Georgia, connected with a case that eventually went away about plans to change the twenty twenty result. And then of course he was off the court. And I think this was a

ludicrous case. Remember he was essentially being found guilty of a bookkeeping offense, but they didn't bring the bookkeeper in to prove the offense because the bookkeeper had clearly proven that it wasn't an offense. But still remember remember how people had thought this guy, Okay, yes he's back as the nominee, but there's no way this guy could win.

before the world's eyes. Oh, first it was a flu, then he was tired from travel, and then of course eventually people write best selling books that he was never up to it, that he was crumbling behind the scenes. And even before we get to he wins the twenty twenty four election, he was shot at not just once but twice, including live on TV.

the majority. I don't know that upsets some people, but you can just got to tell the truth. Those of us that are at the very least Trump literate or pro Trump, are aware of why he's good or all in or magahat wearing right. That is not the majority of Australians. But it always scares me about the number of Australians who compare China and the United States and don't see a vast difference in between those two countries.

In fact, when asked about which country would act responsibly when it comes to dealing with the rest of the world. How a look at this. Sixty four percent of people in Australia don't trust the United States. Now, yeah, that's a lower number than China, which is almost eighty percent. But put simply, the majority of Australians don't trust either

China or the United States. How hardcore is that because we certainly know that even if we like or don't know the personality of a president of the United States, we certainly know that one is about freedom and one is very much not when it comes to and this is the shocking bit, the lower report of Australians which leader do you have confidence in? When it comes to world leaders, there is a one point difference between the

lack of trust. By the way, so seventy one percent of people have little or no confidence in the Chinese president, seventy two percent have little or no confidence in the President of the United States. That's scary, Okay, that number is frightening to me because for obvious reasons, one imperfect as he clearly is, represents the side that we have fought two world wars with that we have been in lockstep because they represent freedom versus the other one that

has slowly but surely burrowed away. To mean, the countries like Australia end up in a sort of fifty to fifty position when viewing those two people are unbelievable. Also a couple of interesting things inside this pole too. I don't think we're asking enough people a clear question about

things like climate change or net zero. Well this is as close to that, but i'd love, you know, Newspole, Essential or somebody else, straight up questions about climate change, straight up questions about whether we should or shouldn't support the policy of net zero. Now, the three lines here, the dark blue, the light blue, and the red. The red says that until we're sure that global warming is really a problem, we should not take any steps. So

that is in Australia fifteen percent. The light blue is the problem of global warming should be addressed, but its effects wibly be gradual, so we need to deal with the problem gradually. That is thirty three percent. So obviously you can swing this in one direction or the other. But amazingly, according to this fifty one percent of Australians say the global warming is a serious, pressing problem. We should begin taking steps now, even if it involves significant costs.

As for where we should get our energy from, ninety five percent of people think favorably that the major role should be of renewables, eighty nine percent of people say it for more than a majority. Sixty eight percent of people say that a major role should be there for coal, and sixty six percent a major role for nuclear. So help me out when it comes to the results of

the federal election. That apparently what you know. Fifty one percent say I don't worry what the cost is of dealing with climate change, yet they are okay with basically all forms of power. But here's the big one. Both major parties in Australia committed to bringing Australia's national greenhouse gas emissions down in near zero by twenty fifty. This presents both costs and opportunities for the economy. On balance, do you think that achieving net zero would leave the

Australian economy better off worse off? No difference thirty eight percent better off, thirty six percent worse off twenty three percent. It's the same, which perhaps is why people like our dear friend Matt Canavan and our dear friend Nicholas Reese can both be very confident that the majority of Australians are basically on their side when it comes to this question. Again, can Pole the essential pole the Resolve poll ask a straight question, do you support the goal of net zero? By right? Yes?

five k run every day. All right. I am not suggesting that this is a healthy option, but it is something clearly one hundreds of thousands, probably millions of people are involved in. But a stupid way of dealing with this problem rather than legalizing it, controlling what's in it, and yes, collecting tax off when it is sold, just

like with other products people smoke. This federal government decided to pretend that they had a solution, which was to ban the sale of vapes all over the country, and the Health minister he had an even better idea, which was that if you wanted to get a vape, you couldn't. You wouldn't go to the convenience store, you wouldn't go to the tobacconist. You would go to the local chemist and they would then hand you over the device with

which you would supplement your smoking with. And if you wanted to, you could say you're a pack of day and they give you a really strong one, or they give you lots of them. But guess what, Basically no

one is availing themselves of this system. Details of the Therapeutic Goods Administration were obtained by the Daily Telegraph and it shows a disgraceful gap between the illegal stuff that still remains on sale at virtually every corner in the country and the government scheme, which again even chemists don't want to be involved with. More than five nine hundred pharmacists are in the country, but only seven hundred are

willing to hold onto the vapes. Those that do are averaging just one legal vape sale every two or three days. But there's a lot of vape people walking around, isn't there. The TGA also concedes the number of participating pharmacies may be inflated due to duplicate entries in the system. So

what does that mean. Well, of course, as people continue to vape all over the country, the Albanezy government's vape scheme is in disarray, with new figures revealing just one in every sixteen hundred and eighty six vape sales excluding those involving prescriptions, occur legally through a pharmacy. This is and always has been a terrible idea, a terrible way

of doing this. Now again, as a person who smokes legal tobacco paying through the nose when it comes to taxes, we know what the consequence is of trying to have this stupid idea. If we tax it out of existence, then somehow no one will be smoking. Well, guess what people are still smoking because they're buying the Chinese garbage from tobacconists, which is which are popping up in suburb after suburb, aff suburb after suburb. You can even buy

them close to some state parliaments. According to some of the reporting that has been done by news organizations around the country. It is a ludicrous system that this government wants to pretend it has a solution to when the only obvious solution is to do exactly with vapes what

has been done with tobacco. But may you not do exactly what you've done with tobacco where the taxes are so big, multi billion dollars, and the treasurer gets so lazy that they just keep putting it up and up and up, expecting that they will forever be able to

break the back of smokers. The reality is that the black market is winning by a country mile when it comes to vapes, and it is now this close, if not already winning by a similar margin when it comes to legal tobacco, and both of which don't touch not good for your health, no question whatsoever. You are shortening your life by doing it legally vaping or illegally. But

someone somewhere will one day wake up. But of course the lobby is so strong, so strong that finding anything other than these stupid schemes that people do not use that does not stop smoking but makes people feel good who want to bang on about smoking, Well, it's failing.

Time for a rethink. Let's legalize control, get rid of the criminal element, and stop pretending that the place to buy a tobacco replacement is a freaking pharmacy where the extreme majority don't want to sell them because it's kind of against what they do here on Pulmurray Live, Nicolas Rees, Matt Canavan everything from net zero to a decade of

Donald Trump ten years? Can you believe that what a privilege it has been to go through almost every one of those days in real time with you mort Sec. Anyone who's been to Brisbane or has watched an episode of Blue he knows where Mountcuther is beautiful part and the ability to look down over one of the great cities. Well, there's a plan to make the whole thing in eco tourism hotspot. Have a look at this. It looks like a bit of a space station. Apparently it is inspired

by the Singapore Gardens, but Mountcuther. This is the plan for eco glamping, tree top walks upgraded Lookout from the Hill by the beloved Sorry blood by tourists.

why don't we do this in Melbourne. Let's be joined by them now, none other than Senator Matt Canavan, of course, joining us from Queensland and resplendent in his green jacket. What a fresh little one that is. Nicholas Rees, of course, the Lord Mayor of Melbourne. Lads, Hello, welcome, you're with me, Matt Kuther. Leave it the way it is. We don't need the you know.

having that debate. Mainstein was a it was a tough thought, robust debate, that's how it should be, and don't the Australian people deserve a choice on this. This is a radical plan to completely change how we do everything, not just electricity. Sometimes we get hoodwinked into thinking net zero is just about putting some solar panels and batteries up.

the use of L's Nationals. The Country Liberal Party there has dropped their support for net zero, So I think this is some dominoes now falling and hopefully the next election we can have a contest on this craziness.

say to you again? Again, I'm happy for the debate, right, we'll find out where the country is, but even interesting in that kind of left leaning polling that basically we're talking forty forty twenty.

that makes any sense. So instead of arguing the issue, they immediately go.

one percent of the world's problem. Okay, the push on for whatever the twenty thirty five target might end up getting us towards fifty five, sixty five, seventy five whatever. Let's even imagine one hundred it's one hundred percent of one percent of the world's problems and China is able

to wipe that out in sixteen days. So, Nikkot, what point as a person who yes wants the action, says we need to be part of the global all the rest of it, right, But at what point does the left actually recognize that even if we did everything, we're not going to change the weather in Australia.

to build Australia as a green power superpower. So we should be embracing that future, not running away from it, seeing that this is an opportunity to create national advantage for our nation, and you know, to be trying to deny that, to try and turn Australia backwards.

with a shed for it. We've got a shed because he's walked away from the hydrogen and we're not going to get those jobs that we were promised by the Labor Party a few years ago and hydrogen. Luckily, the coal mines are still going strong, but there is no hydrogen market out there. There's nothing that's going to be out there anytime soon. We just saw last week that the latest analysis shows that hydrogen is still costing eight times the cost of natural gas in the US.

didn't mention in the campaign. Nick, you just haven't caught up with that. That's fine, because you don't live and breathe that like I do up here because we've had tens of millions, hundreds of millions actually wasted up here in Central and North Queensland on this pipe dream that we would somehow have hydrogen jobs. No one's employed in

the hydrogen industry anymore, there's no one there. There's a lot of people employed in the coal industry and there's record demand for that coal, So why don't we invest in that and become wealthy as a country again?

in life. My wife has reminded me tonight is read midnight, so see we're all in the same place eventually, more in a secure on pre Worrick life.

Thank you, great man. I do appreciate it all. Right. Now, let's talk about this vaping stuff, right, and particularly the nonsense of this chemist system that clearly is a joke nobody's involved with. You know what, One in sixteen hundred vape sales come through this sort of legal method. The rest of it's clearly going nuts. So Nicholas, what is the solution here? Because yes, in a perfect world, we can all pretend no one's going to do it anymore,

but they're going to do it. So that's why I say legalize it, control it and tax it like they do the other stuff that people do.

the wrong place, the selling of it. Again, I don't want to go full libertarian here, which is, you know, do what you want, let's just tax everything. But clearly the chemist thing is a joke, right man.

line of business for organized crime. But they then reinvest into other lines of business of crime, leading to more car theft and all these other things that are going on and seem to a balloon. So I think there is a connection there, and I do think the liberal national policy was just a sensible one. It's not full

blow and libertaria. I'm not saying legalize everything, it's just saying that, Look, we've obviously made a decision that you can vape because you're allowed to buy them out from pharmacies. But the pharmacies don't want to sell them. They sell a really restricted array of vapes, and so people are

still going to the legal market. So look, now that we actually do legally sell vapes, why don't we just do it like cigarettes and put it behind a cabinet, don't advertise obviously, get rid of all anything that's marketed towards kids or fairy phloss flavors yet one hundred percent stuff, and just be sensible about it.

So I always sort of think some of the expectations around this stuff gets a little bit weird. You're not going to solve the world's problems or start World War three on the side of the main meeting. But what would you hope comes out of it here?

He called the Secretary Headsets considered speech in Singapore a comment and then went on a rant about how we're a sovereign nation. Well, of course for a sovereign nation, but we've actually only kept our sovereignty by having strong friends in the Bloc, and we need those strong friends now more than ever. So look, I just hope that a spirit of cooperation comes out, that we are friends, let's.

you know, current occupant, Donald Trump. I want us to have the best possible relationship, which means I think they can get I think they will probably find some way to interpersonally get along. But as a person who's a long term Trump skeptic, let me put it that way. Are you hoping that lefty Albow gets in there and just gives him a couple of truth bombs, says something nasty, justinder our durn style at the lect turned you know, what's the lefty in you, you know, really wanting out

at this moment? What do you want, Nicholas?

going to turn up? Like we're going to see the Donald Trump who turned up for the phone call with President g from China the other day, where you know, by the end of the exchange, Donald Trump was off to China, or we're going to see the Donald Trump who turned up to the meeting with the Canadian Prime series probably closest our load the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney or Zelenski, where things just go totally off the rails.

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