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Paul Murray Live | 15 January

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Peter Dutton off to a good start in 2025... and Paul provides the data to back it up. Shock! The ABC tells the truth about power bills. Plus, Victoria Police make a bold statement against Jacinta Allan's woke government. 

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Speaker 1

From the sky in center. This is Paul Murray Live. You know mate, Thank you, Sherry, come on into the man Cave. There is a massive storm that is over Sydney right now, but I'm sad to say that in the lead up to it a man has due three hours west of Sydney and Cara as a tree fell on his car. Believe the man was in his eighties.

If you are anywhere near it, please take care, be safe and do all of the people that will be out and about, from the sees to the fire brigades and all of the emergency services, thank you for what you do in these times that are quite difficult. But big storm out of Melbourne a couple of days ago. Plenty in Queensland, but right now the concern is in and around New South Wales, particularly Sydney copying an absolute

thumping right now. This thing is a real squall with a lot of wind, a lot of rain, a lot of lightning with it as well. So hopefully well everyone comes out the other side in the meantime. Plenty to do tonight on the show, including no Sorooks. No left his first week back. I'm being kind making sure that you have friendly faces around you, including the Wonderfu brom Bishop, who is back on the show doing what she does best, which is putting people in their place, taking names, all

the rest of it. The carry out a champ as always will be here and she'll be here in a moment of two's time. I've got a bit more data that's going to tell you about how Peter Dutton is starting to win the start of the political year. Now I'm not telling you he's going to win the election, but wait till I compare and contrast, and we've actually got some data about this about how he's going at the start of the year versus of course each way

out by. There's also more information about rental properties and somewhere other than Melbourne is the second most expensive place to get a rental property in Australia after Sydney. We'll get to all of that in a moment or two's time, but first we are six days away from a change of government in the United States, just six days away from when the President of the United States goes from bumbling Biden to a bloke who was the peak of

his powers in Donald Trump. Now you remember one of the things that we learned out of the American election was that the polls are not ohright, gospel. Remember how we were told Uphill and down Dale that it was close and super close, and even I was telling you at times things were super close. The reality, of course, he won the popular vote, he won all of the swing states, and he is back with a thumping majority

in the Senate and control of the House as well. Well, what did the book he say about the battle here in Australia first week that we're back on the air, first real week of the election season as we get ready for one that will happen in the next couple of months. Well, the battle between the Prime Minister and the alternative Prime Minister, interestingly, is one where the book is telling us currently Labor is in a world of trouble, and believe it or not, the actual favorite right now

the Coalition. Let's have a look at a whole collection of the bookies that have put their numbers forward. Labor currently is two dollars ten and the Coalition is the favorite according to sports Bet at a dollar seventy two. The same margin for the people after the election will be Peter Dutton. The tob ever so slightly better for the Labor Party, but still showing that the favorite three

different book is and again bookies could be wrong. Famously one of them was very wrong in twenty nineteen, but the bookies were so right in and around the American election. This is going to be my north start to push through much of the garbage that is there. Also worth noting here too is that we have a start to this election year where we have a Prime Minister who's trying to buy his way out of trouble an announcement a day millions yere billions there, and Peter Dutton who

is focusing on values. Now again I've got some data for you in a second that's going to help explain how these two teams are prosecuting the early days. But while Peter Dutton is talking about big things like a National Day, how it should be enshrined in law, how councils should lose their capacity to basically do anything other than do it on the twenty sixth or don't do it at all. But the Prime Minister, he is playing a very old school game here, which is turn up

somewhere and throw money at a problem. Now, Tasmania is a place where the Labor Party holds two seats. The Liberal Party holds one seat, and then an independent of course holds the other. The expectation is is that if they lose a seat like Bradden or Lyons the two that Labor currently holds, then of course things get worse for the government they move into minority, things get better

for the bookie's favorite in Peter Dutton. Well, today the Prime Minister was in Tasmania announcing more money, this time Davenport, six million dollars to events that are there. Why it's a way of trying to hold on to the seat. But again does anyone remember this announcement in a couple of days time. This is on top of the more than ten b four billion dollars which have announced thus far. When it comes to the NBN or roads, and as we went through in chapter and verse last night, when

it comes to priorities. While I have no doubt that things are needed in Davenport or Nara as they have been, and certainly the Bruce Highway which should have been dealt with years agott alone three years ago, let alone five years into the future, we live in a country where as I told you last night, one in three people are struggling at the moment as parents to pay for their school costs, and people are now turning to maxing out their credit card or going to the old fashioned

bank of grandma or grandpa to try to find a way to pay for those school expenses. If the Prime minister's got six million dollars to try to hold in a marginal seed, surely he's got millions of dollars to take care of the charity sector. I'm going to keep talking about this. They should be cracking off hundreds of millions of dollars for the charity sector that's taken care

of people right now. They have to be making it easier for the people who are the parents of the kids who are financially struggling to make sure that they do not fall behind in confidence or in any other way when they go to school. Prime Minister, it's up to you. You can hold a press conference today with an announcement nobody will remember, or you can do something that

will actually make people's lives better. But I mentioned before about the data part of this, and you know that when it comes to this show, I try to show you the information, the data from a neutral source. And yes there's a lot of opinion that I will put in and around it. Put simply, the data are either the bricks of the argument. The mortar is the opinion, and hopefully it becomes a wall on which lies crash to go all John Dutton on you as I quickly

remember that show Yellowstone. Well. Interestingly, today the Australian Financial Review pulled out the speeches, every speech, every press conference which has been made by both the Prime Minister and by Peter Dutton since the start of this election year, and they put it through the old computer and they used a bit of AI. Here. AI analysis shows that the Prime Minister most frequently is using adjectives to pain a more positive vision, including words such as good, important,

and successful to describe his government. Meantime, Peter Dutton says week in competent, the worst, and shameful are among his most colorful and repeated adjectives to describe both the Prime Minister and the government as the weakest since federation, while

describing himself as a strong leader who would fix the problems. Now, let me explain why this is particularly interesting, because you see, if the Prime Minister is to win this election, then Australia has to believe that he is a government that has made the country better in the past three years, no evidence of that, and if he was to be given even more power into the future then of course

he would continue to build the narrative. But the reality is that Australians are much closer to where Peter Dutton is, which is why the bookies are suggesting that there may well be a shock result at the upcoming federal election. In fact, let me show you this here because there's a whole bunch of poles that are worth showing you, a whole collection of poles that show here about the

right and wrong direction of the country. Now, this one is from the Roy Morgan people and it came out this week that just thirty and a half percent of people believe the country is headed in the right direction. Fifty four percent of people say it's headed in the wrong direction. That number of thirty in a bit is basically the primary vote of the Labor Party right now. But let me show you some more here as we have a look at our next slide from the Essential

Research Group. These are the people who come out and the Guardian poles will often be there. You can see that the right track for the country is just thirty one percent, basically the same as the previous one, and the wrong track is currently at fifty one percent. But then there is this one that I really have to show you, which is, can you name one thing that the federal government has done to make your life financially better?

Seventy three percent of people can't say. Seventy three percent of people can't name one thing, not too little, too late, tax cards, not all of the other stuff that they claim has made massive changes when it comes to cost of living. And when you actually break this down even more, let me show you this. All voters seventy three percent can't name a single thing the government's done. Labor voters thirty six percent of them say, you can name something,

but that's the best the government goes. We're back that seventy eight percent of people who didn't want this government in the first place, seventy percent of people who give their preferences to this government, seventy nine percent of people who vote one nation. This is an indication that their preferences most likely go back to the Liberal party like

they did in twenty nineteen. Liberal win versus what happened in twenty twenty two and others which can be everything from the Libertarian through to the Teals seventy six percent also something that shows you about who is winning the early days and while the Prime Minister might be out there trying to do the lefty Jedi mind trick that everything's okay and he's a builder and your life is better than it was three years ago, when you know your life has been much worse over the past three years,

and why would you reward the people who remember promised to make it better, not in the Nevan never they

promised in twenty twenty two. Well we know that in twenty twenty three they took fifteen hundred dollars off ten million working Australians and things have got worse through of course twenty twenty four, and now as we move our way to twenty twenty five, there have been twelve interest rate rises under this mod and even if the Reserve Bank does what fingers crossed we all hope it does in the upcoming meeting of pulling it back, you've still got the effective pressure of those three years and a

dozen interest rate rises, which were not clear by the time of the election. But again some of the analysis that was done by the Financial Review today was the Prime Minister loves talking about himself myself man may. In fact, they actually counted it, and God loved them for doing so, because they saved me the trouble. Right. The data shows that mister Abnezi has used first person pronouns such as

me or my more frequently than mister Dunden. In fact, four hundred and forty three times since the start of the year he has said I, me or my compared to forty sorry, just eighty two that are there for the alternative Prime Minister, which brings us to the analysis again inside this article. But a person who will be a guest on this program once the tennis is done and we get up into the full run towards the election.

Sunday Nights, by the way, is going to be a particular focus when Costa Mars and Michael Kroger are going to get right into the state of the race. And I don't just mean the polls, I mean the stuff behind the polls, the machine. It's going to be a big thing Sunday Night, each and every Sunday night here on Paul Murray Life. Well. Costamars, of course is a former Labor pollster. He's helped the teals out in the past, but he runs a polling a mob called Redbridge. This

is what he says about the slogans. At the moment, Labor has a lot more work to do to make sure that its slogan works. Kind of the same as my view, which is, if the opinion polls are all saying the country said in the wrong direction, a government saying, send us back, because we've put it in the right direction. They're only where about a third of the country is. What's missing is meaningful policy action. The PM just doesn't

have the ballast being the policy record or reform. But simply that's a polite way of saying nothing got better in the past three years. What can he point to? Yes, he can point to some rather significant legislation when it comes to things like public housing. He can point to two little too late tax pads. But remember the people most in need of those with the people who got the least people on forty five thousand dollars a year, we're getting fourteen dollars a week. Oh but we've done

something about power bills, wasn't the promise? By twenty twenty five they'd be down by two hundred and seventy five dollars. Well, of course they have gone way up, and inflation is only being artificially held down by government handouts that mean three hundred dollars a year, or more importantly, twenty five dollars a month is being knocked off the bills, not by reducing the cost of the electricity, but just by hanging the electricity companies to knock twenty five dollars a

month off your bill. Meantime, mister Samaris says about Peter Dutton and his start to the year, his messaging, how his messaging matches up with the poles, matches up with the bookies, and matches up with the mood of the country. The same part of the country that turned on the Liberal Party just three years ago, that turned on the Labor Party, what twelve years ago that turned on John Howard back in two thousand and seven, that sliver of Australia five to ten percent that flipped one way or

the other. Dutton is tapping into an underlying sentiment that the country seems rudderless and Albinizi is not a strong leader. The mindset that the next five to ten years are very uncertain and in those times you need a strong leader. Dutton slogan, which of course is putting the country back on track, capitalizes on a lot of low hanging fruit. But as always, my friends in the press galery, oh don't they love this program and have for the better

part of fifteen years now. Occasionally there are some exceptions, and I'm sorry to throw them all in together, but generally speaking sort of, you know, seven out of ten are all cheering for this government to find its mojor. And while I am an opinion host and you expect opinion to come from me, it is weird when people who claim to be independent reporters tell us pretty obviously

which side they're going to be batting for now. A significant figure in news over at Channel ten is Hugh Rimington, formerly over at Channel nine, and he's sort of in and out of the political sphere at the moment. But he decided not to write on the ten website but to write on the turbul Times today giving free advice to the Prime Minister about how he could save his backside. Why would any independent journalist be sitting and telling one side of politics how to win, unless, of course, they

want that team to win. Anthony Albineazi couldn't sell a schooner to a shearer, and there's plenty of criticism in the article, but he says, what would Nick Xenophon do? Put simply more stunts, and that's the way that he would be able to connect with people, and presumably if he was able to connect with people, then his message would start to work and he would win an election. Again,

I never hide that this is an opinion program. It's been loud, proud and strong for as long as we've been on the air and all my life before and after. But these people are the ones who look down on programs like this, who look down on viewers like you who have strong opinions, who look down on this channel for having strong opinions. Once the sun starts to disappear at five o'clock in the afternoon, all the way through

to reader at eleven o'clock. But that's a taste of the people who are going to be well the independent arbiters of what the news of the day is. One who's telling you over a Channel ten that he'd really like a closer fight, because God forbid, Australian's got rid of the greatest prime minister of all time. Now, there was one message also that came out of the American election, which well we knew from mid July, was how Donald Trump was going to win, and it was his response

to the assassination attempts. But more importantly, fight fight, fight, fight, fight fight. Don't muck around, don't bugg a rise around on the edges, don't suck up to the usual people who are always going to have a crack at you, take a position and defend it. Well. Interestingly, we know that when it comes to this election coming up in just a few months time, that one of the x factors that Labor desperately needs to be able to return

itself to power are their mates in the Greens. Now, despite the fact that from every now and then they like to pretend that they are fighting with each other, Labor will lose any shred of environment and credibility it still thinks it has.

Speaker 2

In some cases it's just immaturity and spite from the Green spokesperson.

Speaker 1

Prime Minister is so desperate to detract and distract from Labour's complicity and.

Speaker 3

Backing of the invasion.

Speaker 1

Enough is enough, But what a lovely fake fight because when it comes down to the existential question of who do you believe should end up in Parliament, the Labor Party says the next best option after them is the Greens, and the Greens always say the next best option after them is the Labor Party. Preferences are the only reason that the Labor Party is able to defeat the coalition.

Big question is and the scenario here, which will inevitably be playing itself out at the next election, is that those Greens preferences, despite all the fights, will of course head their way towards the government. But an example of fight, fight, fight, win, win win. Bugger what the cheersquad in the press gallery is giving its free advice to Albo about how to

refine his mojo. Julian Lisa has decided to put it right front and center that there is an existential threat to the country right now and as social cohesion, and it is the Greens. Now it's not just on the matters of antisemitism, but principally that is his driving force here. But we also know the economic policy where they don't know the difference between turnover and profit, let alone social

policy and all the rest of it. That these are all reasons why the Labour Party has to put the Greens last, and if they don't put the Greens last, then they are endorsing the worst of the Greens, because if in every single seat in the country, the Labour Party thinks that the next best thing to them is the Greens, rather than viewing the Greens as the threat they claim them to be, meaning you would put their preferences last in order to guarantee as few of them

get elected to Parliament as possible. Well, that would of course require a lot more stone and the Prime Minister has thankfully, people in the opposition thankfully, specifically people like Julian Lisa don't care. They say this is about morality. Most important thing that we can do is actually to change the government of the country at the coming federal election,

because this government has been appalling away from politics. But it will be a major factor in and around the election because remember, the Greens think that they're going to be able to overtake the Labor Party and still use their preferences to be able to win more seats, and largely through the problems around renting. Remember a third of the country owns a property, a third of the country's

paying off a property. A third of the country is renting, so presumably they are renting from somebody who is also trying to pay off for property. So in my view, at least half, probably sixty percent of people are connected to the mortgage rates. And as we know, because we invite too many people into the country, when there's not enough houses in the country, demand for rent goes up. It means the cost of it goes through the roof.

It means that peaceeople who are barely hanging on start to fall into that category of about three million people who are this close to homelessness. But of course it's not as important as the beautification of Davenport to hold on to the marginal seat, or the beautification of the water sides of Nara to hold on to the seat, or the three billion dollars for the NBN, or the billions of dollars for the Bruce Highway that it should have already been spent. Instead, you've got to vote for

us again to somehow break a promise yet again. Well, we got an insight today about the median and average rent for both houses and for units. If you're somebody who's paid off your house or is paying off a house right now. It might shock you to know exactly where the rent is in the country, because you see in Sydney the typical rent for a house is eight hundred and eleven dollars a week a unit seven hundred

and ten dollars a week. It's cheaper in Melbourne where it's six hundred thirty three dollars for a medium rent for a house renting for a unit five hundred and fifty six. But what about Perth. Perth right now is more expensive when it comes to the median rental values

than Melbourne at six hundred and sixty five dollars. To have a look in a simpler way is the illustrations of how rent has increased over the years in every capital city, where it has particularly spiked in high population areas like Sydney where yes, the million people that have been brought in by this government, many which end up

in places like Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. But you can also see basically everywhere when it comes to a house has gone through the roof when it comes to units where you can forget about it because as you can see right there, over the past couple of years and it ain't COVID. It's the massive immigration that has happened post COVID, the out of control immigration that this government has demand because it makes the federal budget look good and they can say they've got a surplus. But where

do the people live? Whatever, we'll get around, we'll work it out later. All of this is part of the picture, the immigration picture that in part will be discussed at the upcoming election. And rightly so. Now this one was in the inbox yesterday, but I had to take a moment to talk about how, just ever so slightly, the cracks are appearing in the woke topia of Jacinta Allen in Victoria. Now we know that there's a new opposition leader, we know that there's some polling, we know there's an

awful lot of people with fingers crossed. But you are in a world of pain when you are having the very police officers that you used to keep people in their homes or fire rubber bullets of people who protested the actions of the government, when they are now out and about an openly protesting and disrupting the government. Yesterday, the acting Premier Ben Carroll was delivering a press conference. He was doing so ahead of a by election that

will be taking place in Victoria relatively soon. So the police decided, you know what, we're going to make our presence heard. We're going to make it seen, We're going to make it felt. And it made the six pm news, meaning the pay battle. The government is losing.

Speaker 2

A Werribee press conference gate crushed by police. We've quick come to realize that the only place the government's probably going to listen to them is in the electorate of Werribee. State government staff scramble to shift the media event.

Speaker 4

We're going to move down that way into this garden.

Speaker 5

To avoid the flashing lights, but they couldn't drown out the buzzing, an industrial action stunt designed to get the acting premier's attention.

Speaker 1

Good on them all the strengthen ume we are pro cop on this show. Pro police. They are the people who run towards danger when any and every person who is in the public service, or any and everyone who's in the Parliament would run the other way. Or if they did run towards danger, of course they demand a

camera was there with them. Police, of course do their work all day, every day and deserve as much money as they want because literally they put themselves on the line to make sure that when something does go wrong, when you and I have the worst days of our lives, that somebody does turn up, and they, along with the rest of the emergency services, in my view, they deserve all the support that they demand from a government. Some sad news came around today for those of us who

were eighties kids. Simon Townsend, the host, producer, executive producer, owner and the creative force behind Wonder World, Well, he passed away today. He had a battle with cancer seventy nine. Meantime, at the ABC, they've accidentally worked something out, which is that the cost of energy is going up, not just your power bills, but your gas bills. And if your gas bill and your power bill goes up, that might make it difficult if you're a factory and you're trying

to make things. It might be really hard if you're a small business and you require things like you know, ovens to cook bread. Rich in resources, but Australia's energy costs have tripled and manufacturers are hurting. Oh thanks Scoop. Electricity prices have gone up threefold in the past ten years. Gas prices have gone up fourfold. According to the steelmaker OURCA. You know, I also like talking about other people's money, i e. How they peddle it up against the wall.

Under the previous government in Queensland, they were experts at it. Have a look at the Courier Mail story of the past couple of days, which tells us about the types of money that people are on right now to run things like Treasury or Energy Queensland, or power Link or Queensland Rail. It's anywhere from seven hundred thousand dollars a year to one point twenty five million dollars a year.

Can some premiere somewhere or some politicians somewhere say that no one who runs an agency in the public service will be paid a dollar more than the premier or Prime minister because the bloke who currently is running Queensland Treasury is earning twice what the Prime minister does, let alone the premiere. Another perfect example about fight fight, fight, and what attracts many of us to the Trump way

of doing things. Knowing that yes, bull in a china shop is going to make break a few things, but Jesus gives you an opportunity to rebuild things in the better way. And I don't mean build back better, but a perfect example of many of the ways that Trump has frankly done well done, Polly and done even better again is crash or crashed through. And the bloke you can see on you Telly right now is a guy

called Pete Hegseth. He's formerly a Fox News but more importantly, he's a graduate of Harvard and even more importantly, he has spent many years of his life fighting in the defense forces of the United States. He is the pick that Donald Trump wants to put in charge of the entire military. And the left he's hated because he's from outside. Is a threat to the system. And don't you love it? When it's hunt to Biden, it's nothing to see here. But when it's a Republican, let's get down and dirty.

But you acknowledge it, Fwedge that you cheated on your wife, and that you cheated on the woman by whom you had just fathered a child. You have been met at that. I will allow your words to speak for them. You're not retracting that today. That's good. Oh and if that wasn't enough, apparently it's a piss pot.

Speaker 2

Do you know that being drunk at work is prohibited for service members under the UCMJ.

Speaker 1

Senator. Those are multiple false, anonymous reports peddled by NBCDS directly to the dozens of men and women at Fox. Sorry, a little carried away, but you get the point. They're focused on the drinking the front of the personal life. When it's Hunt of Barden or anyone else. Dis nothing to see here. When Joe Biden didn't recognize one of his grandchildren because it was political, another schnuthna sea here

when it's pet Hezeth all the way in. But he stood there, took it, never lost his call, and pushed back. He showed the courage under fire that clearly he showed when he was part of Iraq and Afghanistan, and clearly the sorts of metal that you would need when you are taking on the entrenched failures in the defense bureaucracy and defense industries in the United States. A Republican was able to get this out on CNN before, of course, they changed the subject. Well, in short, I think Pete

Hegseth kicked our asses today. I mean it wasn't even close. They didn't lay a glove. But let's not say that this was not a day where there was not Donald Trump newsed just six days out from becoming the President of the United States once again forty five coming back as forty seven. Well we know that of course. As he heads back to the White House, one of the things that he will be bringing with him is an

absolute love of diet coke. Apparently drinks it like I drink non diet coke, so much so that has this coke is a way of probably sucking up but still trying to get on the right side of the President is now going to be making official presidential level diet coke. So just like they have the jacket with the logo on it, just like they have the logo in front of the lecturn, he will now have his own exclusive,

special version of diet coke. I love it just because of an onnoier lefty soft drinks orange man pete hegseeth ah more in a second, No locks, no lefties, let's get into it problem. Bishop back where she belongs on your Telly. Next, Welcome back to the man cad Let's class. This join up a little bit with the carry out a Champ. Welcome back the lovely Bromwin Bishop from the Center of Independent Studies. The equally lovely fray Leech love

to see you both all right. So, as I explained, we can see how they want to start the year both sides of politics right now. You can see the scenario where Peter Dutton's trying to go broad values, also where the majority of the country is, which is that we're on the wrong track. Prime Minister is sort of basically doing what you would do in the middle of the thirty three days, which is turning up somewhere with an announcement hyperlocal, hoping that somehow people go millions of

dollars for Davenport. I will now officially completely forget the past three years of your government. Here he was in Tasmania trying to shore up the two seats that Labor have there.

Speaker 2

This grant here of six million dollars for the revitalization of Devonport's CBD by delivering Stage three of the Living City project is a great example of the comwell backing local communities. This has been developed from the ground up, not something that's been developed in Canberras.

Speaker 1

But the bloke from Campbell turn up to tell you how good he is because he's using his oh that's your money to make it happen, So Bromwin, obviously we know that you think that the relations on the right track at the moment. The bookie seemed to suggest it, some parts of the Poles seem to suggest it. But what is it about the way the Prime Minister has started that gives you an insight about how he plans to campaign between now and when he calls it?

Speaker 3

Desperation is a good word.

Speaker 5

And if I might say, you know, reminds me a bit of two thousand and seven, Petixillo and John Hard spent like madmen, and we know how that edited up. The Prime Minister losty seat. So spending really isn't the answer if you haven't been delivering it and you've been seen to be in error in everything you've done or a majority of things you've done, Spending is not going

to buy your forgiveness. And when I watched the sheer duplicity of saying, I'll give money to clean up the Macquarie Harbor to sort of help the salmon industry, but I won't tell Tanya Plibosey that she's got to make a decision and save the industry, not destroy it.

Speaker 1

Dare I say each way Albo of it all, it's like it's baked into the cake. Freyer again. I just think, and I was saying this before this fired up first showback, which is that I don't want another election of politicians turning up and announcing, you know, small amounts of money six million, of course in anyone's life, huge but small amounts of money in terms of the federal budget, as a way of just having an excuse to have a press conference. They don't need the announcement to have the

press conference, local candidates, all the rest of it. And I get that there's all of these subterraneal reasons apparently while you make these local announcements. But if all you see is a government where seventy plus percent of people can't name a single thing that they've done to make your life better, but you're turning up saying here, I am here, I am with the sack full of goodies. No one believes the.

Speaker 4

Goodies, right, So true, and I think what we've seen with this government now, it's as Bronwan said, it's complete desperation. And they have no other policy like, they have no ideas. There is no economic reform on the table, there is no tax reform, there's no, nothing. It's just empty. It's vacuous, like Albo and his entire leadership. But that's what it is. So all they're left with are these micro election commitments, basically trying to pork barrel the electorate into forgetting three years.

But I don't think it's going to work because we have had the worst decline in living standards in fifty years, twenty one months of consecutive per capita recession. Australians will not forget that we are being left behind the worst

decline in living standards in the OECD. And now we're caught in this toxic cycle where we've had a government that spend an extra three hundred and forty seven billion dollars in see election, So that's going to push up inflation, and then they're going to turn around and go, okay, so now we need more cust of living measures, so your taxes are going to be spared more, and that's going to further push up inflation. And that is the cycle that Albo has gotten our country into.

Speaker 1

And also it feels brom One that again the political class that is freely giving advice via the turmbul times you be more like Nick Xenophon. Okay, that was great for a little while, but then what was it like when he tried to run for premiere or recently. I'm

pretty sure that didn't work out in the end. But the idea here that we're in this scenario where I think comfortable people who talk about politics for a living, Comfortable people who sort of might sit around and get engaged in the conversation about, oh, are they too conservative? What's their twenty thirty five target? Why haven't they all know the sort of frankly, the sort of greeny teal world.

They're ignoring the reality. And the reality is is that of the extreme majority of the population, including it seats that have never voted liberal right, they are ignoring the actual threat on the table.

Speaker 5

I think John ca nailed it in the fin Review today when he said what people care about is what you pay at the checkout, what you pay for your petrol, what you pay for your electricity, and most importantly.

Speaker 3

What you pay for your insurance.

Speaker 1

Yes, that is.

Speaker 5

A killer when you've been going think of your own accounts, when you've been going through paying your ordinary bills, and suddenly you get the whammo of the insurance bill for your house or for your car or whatever it is.

Speaker 3

It's a whammo and it goes through the roof.

Speaker 5

And with these files in the United States, I'm afraid that's going to impact on that price again because they're part of the international insurance business or they're literally.

Speaker 1

Global companies that the Australian Office.

Speaker 5

Certainly pay for, certainly the reinsurance are but the important thing is that those four issues are what determines what disposable income.

Speaker 3

You've got every week.

Speaker 5

And worrying about whether or not Elbow's going to say I'm going to put three billion more into the NBN or whatever it is, it just doesn't wash.

Speaker 3

It just doesn't wash.

Speaker 1

I mean, also, you know they've spent a quarter of a b four billion dollars on government advertising. Right, this is where I look that the former government in its dying days, was terrible with this stuff too. I've said it for as long as I've had access to a microphone or a camera. There shouldn't be anything but emergency government advertising in the calendar year of an election. Right. The rest of it is all pretty obvious because it

has consistently been abused. All right. I finally, if somebody put that into the parliament and see what happens. I'm a big fan of maybe just one line bills going into the parliament to see what happens.

Speaker 5

No idea how it is possible in government to define something is essential? Yes, yes, it really is something that's quite enough.

Speaker 1

Yeah it is. It is quite strange. But you've got this scenario where there are people who are truly struggling. Three million people this close to homelessness, right, three point four having problems with food insecurity. That number is not the forever number that's always been in Australia, right, that is the number that has been growing over the past couple of years. The census showed us years ago more

homeless people than ever before in the country. Right. Sorry to be the bleeding heart, but the reality is a country that is doing as well as we are should have a charity sector that at times of surge gets the same surge as other things. What are am I wrong here?

Speaker 5

No? But I want to talk about a group that is only just starting to be talked about now that I started talking.

Speaker 3

About when I was Minister for Age Care.

Speaker 5

And they are older women yes, no superinnuation and no property yes, who have nothing and we're talking about women in their sixties and their seventies who are sleeping rough and indeed their eighties. I remember talking to one woman who was in her eighties who had no security. She had her head on a pillow by grace and favor of a local charity.

Speaker 3

And that has.

Speaker 5

Become a more pressing issue and it will continue to grow now. Once upon a time, under the age care system, we used to have a system of hostel care which was very low level and people literally could live there. They weren't in need of the sort of care that we think of these days.

Speaker 3

But that disappeared and.

Speaker 5

The bottom line is nothing has replaced it. And so this is a category of people, along with mothers with children who are fleeing domestic.

Speaker 3

Violence and live in their cars.

Speaker 5

These people are just slipping through the cracks well.

Speaker 1

And this is where I'm not going to say political opportunity because it's also the right thing to do, which is that I think that rather than every day a different announcement, a couple of million here, a couple of minion, make a big commitment in terms of the opposition to surge the charity sector to take care of these people

during these particular times. Right, But there are also again that group of people who you know, they're sweet, they don't care, frankly about what's going on, or they are more concerned by sort of whatever the radio national talking point of the days. Frey, You've run in these electorates

at certain times. So do you think that, again, there's elections within elections within elections within elections, right, But do you think that we are at a tipping point where some of the places that may have just three years ago not really been all that intercost of living staff that three years later are going to really just be made. Okay, I don't care about your announcement about Davenport. God love Davenport, but I don't care.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Well, I think the policies that we see the left run on, especially the last election, climate, integrity, women, the voice, those are luxury issues. Those are things you can care about when you're not worried about putting food on the table, when you're not worried about getting your kids. They're baptist, all essentials, paying for fuel, paying for all

your expenses. And I think the economy has changed in such a way real disposable incomes have collapsed, cost of living is continuing to surge, productivity is declining, and so I think now those issues that people in you know, Balmain, where I ran as a state liberal candidate, where they had the luxury to care about that three years ago.

Even in those areas where they do have high incomes, they are property owners, they are still feeling the pinch because mortgages are still up, you know, twenty five thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 1

Which is why. And I don't say it in a left wing right wing way, but if that's the way to understand it, for the point of the conversation, let's go there, right. I agree with Peter Dutton's announcement on a restatement on Sunday doubling the number of telehealth things. When it comes to mental health, I would think that a big sweeping thing around the charity sector helps helps,

not soften, but certainly shows what your priorities are. But if ourbo's out there each and every day, to me, I just think that you're able to make a big statement and reinforce it constantly as a sign of your priorities, as opposed to announcement a day to justify the press conference. And that's what the press gallery needs because we constantly have to feed the beast.

Speaker 5

I think that's right. But also the thing I think that is strong about Peter Duttin, and he's doing extremely well, is on the so called cultural wars, loving our country, loving the symbols of our country, because at the end of the day, if you do not have a culture, you've.

Speaker 3

Got nothing to defend bloody Earth.

Speaker 5

And if we're really concerned about how Australia is going to survive in a complex world, we have to stick up for who we are, what our culture is, and then have a defense force to defend it bloody Earth.

Speaker 1

I've got some actual stats about this that I'm going to deal with tomorrow and I which is actually going to further put some data buyd the idea about why those changes have happened in favor of things like Australia because of the mix of Australia that has changed over the past ten and twenty years, where surprise, surprise, the debate about the day that certain people want to have over the past ten twenty years has been replaced by people who see the day as of course, the day

they became an Australian quick break back with more move away from federal politics, and there's a big fight happening in New South Wales. When it comes to the trains, it's a labor government, it's unions and nothing is happening and commuters suffer. How would these guys fix it? You're find out next. Freileh is with the Menzies Research Center. Lovely to see you. I don't know why I kept

getting it wrong. I certainly apologize. And the one off a Broman Bishop, which is all the research centers put together in her institutional knowledge. See what I did there. Of course, as a carryover champ has always here on Wednesday nights, No Sook's, no left is. Let's start off the way that we know that you like it. News

applies today. There was an absolute apart from the weather, a horrible experience for meellions of people trying to move around because the train union decided, bugger, let's start pulling the workforce now in part. One of the things they're winging about is that the trains that have been built that don't need drivers might mean that some drivers may not have a job. So they want it to guarantee that a driver doesn't drive the train, but just still sits in the front of the train like they need

to also a massive pay dispute. Now, this is a labor government dealing with a hard court labor union. But in fairness, I can't fault that, he said. We as government's attempts to negotiate here, they've gone soft, they've gone hard, they've threatened this, they've gone off there. But if at a moment's notice your train network is just going to shut down, how do you deal with it?

Speaker 5

Bromwin, Well, first of all, they're hoisted on their own batard. They were told during the election campaign you move the cap on wage increases and all hell will break lit. Now there is a pecking order in public sector areas, and people know I'm.

Speaker 3

Worth more than that bloke. Call that bloke or that bloke.

Speaker 5

Yes, and if the government does a negotiation and give us a higher payment to someone a bit out of the pecking order, then the others all say, well.

Speaker 3

You've got to give us up because we are are up that. It's just built into the system.

Speaker 5

Now. The problem is that it's not just one union dealing with The ETU is involved in this too. There's a proliferation of unions which are all enmissed all supporting of the government. They pay the government to get it elected, and when they get them elected, they say, well, now we want our payoff. So this intractable position, maybe the rongal Reagan solution.

Speaker 3

You sack the lot and train new ones.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, I mean literally, I remember did.

Speaker 3

With air traffic controllers if you.

Speaker 1

Remember, well, yeah, I mean we remember a scenario where I think a form of transport ministry was up somewhere over summer. To be honest, I wasn't paying that much attention and said at one point they wanted to privatize things in order to just break the mixes of these particular workers. I assume labor's not planning to do that in New South Wales. But how do you fix it?

I mean, if you've got people that have gone an offer and now they got a better offer, but still they shut everything down, what do you do.

Speaker 4

Well, you can't cave to them, that's for sure, because all you're doing is emboldening. It's like negotiating with terrorists, right, that's rule number one. Do not negotiate with terrorists, because all you do is you tell them that it works. And so if you start, if you start caving to the rail workers. Next you'll have whoever, and then whoever, and then all of a sudden, the whole state will be held ransom by the unions. So that's not an option.

If I were in charge, i'd stop paying them, I'd try to sack them all, and then i'd accelerate the development of the metro so we can get rid of train drivers once and for all. And the idea of putting drivers on driverless metros is peak union in a sanity that everybody should condemn because it's an absurd his weirdness.

Speaker 5

It's changed there for four years not being used. They were driverless trains, and it wasn't until the government agreed to put drivers on them.

Speaker 4

So they went into some unbelievables.

Speaker 1

All right, last one here, and I want to talk about Pete Hegseth and what took place today as the bloke who would end up being in charge of the Defense Department was being put through his paces with the Democrats trying to make the most about infidelity or anonymous stuff about drinking, all the rest of it very little. And I stayed up until very very early this morning watching this very few questions about saying on how would you actually manage the department? Where would you save money?

How could you instead? It basically was an attempt to scandalize this guy to such an extent that he would become toxic and Trump would drop him. Guess what, It failed because he sat there and he showed the exact way you play incoming right. You get them to go crazy, not you blowing up. You get them to blow up. And I think this is a little bit of a

lesson for a lot of people. Rather than playing it safe and guaranteeing the unit room where nobody's ever going to disagree with you, work out what you're going to say when somebody pops up in the crowd and yells at your Bromwin.

Speaker 5

Well, as I said, sometimes you really rather like that because you can play off it.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 5

But I found the sheer hypocrisy of Democrats who had a president in President Clinton, who destroyed the life of Monica Lewinsky as the most powerful man in the world, seducing a nineteen year old intern, even in the alcove off the Oval office. And of course he was married to Hillary and she stood by her man, and they destroyed Monica Lewinsky, and they have the hide to come and ask another person about their behavior when he seems to have come to terms with that, and in his

own testimony said, I have become a reformed person. I just found the whole thing rather this taste well, except the guy who said, how many senators.

Speaker 1

Correct the standard?

Speaker 5

You're all out, which ones of you have got divorced, and nobody's asked you to stand aside.

Speaker 3

So it was a very interesting.

Speaker 5

Thing to watch, I think, And yes, I think he came out of it quite well.

Speaker 1

To me, it's one of those things you can do it at the start, you can't necessarily do it towards the end of a government because you start to look a little off. But what did you think of the performance today?

Speaker 4

I thought he handled it really well. And it is ironic that the Democrats are now complaining about some sort of cover up, some sort of conspiracy, when they're the ones. I mean, Biden has literally just pardoned his son Hunter so he cannot be investigated for any corruption over the last ten years.

Speaker 1

So exactly, Thank you very much, do appreciate it. We'll see you all again very soon. See you tomorrow night for another additional Poul Marie Live Raw special guest will be the wonderful Megan Kelly see it then

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