From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Burray Live. Thank you Sharry.
Welcome a big one, very big one tonight.
In fact, we have got an awful lot to talk about, including when the ghost and the bloke and the Pink Mansion get together. You know, it's the place Australia doesn't want to be. Also sad news, it looks like interest rate cut could well be delayed, in part because of how many topic.
Servants that we have.
And the great Nigel Ferraji joins us to bask in the glory of all things Trump.
There are plenty of things to say about the UK, but what about it? What a moment?
Think about where four years ago Trump flushed from office four years ago, not even getting calls from his own supporters in the Republican Party. The election that just played out, of course, was one where he was going to return to the presidency or he would go to prison for the rest of his life. Well today he was back in the White House ahead of returning on January the twentieth. Unbelievable that these two blokes have ripped into each other
as hard as they have. Well, this is what happened when two presidents look at each other in the eye in the office that means the most of that country.
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For his part, Donald Trump was rather polite about the bloke that he laid into and basically ended his political career at the height of the election season.
Thank you very much.
And politics is tough, and it's many cases not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today, and they appreciate very much.
I again the remarkable nature of what happened here, because remember what these two blokes have said about each other for years and years and years.
The only garbage I see flowing down there is his supporters.
His demonization seems unconscionable, and it's on American.
My supporters are far higher quality than Crooked Joe or Layon Kamala.
Now, I know some of you guys are attempted to think as much your guys, I'll tell you what, manute, But I'm serious.
These are the kind of guys you'd like to smack an ass.
I'd always find that articularly weird, but transfer of power important. It was a failure of Trump not to do so in twenty twenty and Biden well again, for all the criticism that many people have had and have included about him his presidency, the tone of his presidency, for him to extend hand the way that he did was credit
to his legacy. But I think he might be happy because, of course he'll always be able to play out the twenty twenty four election and it choose your own adventure fashion that if he had run, he would have won, but of course they pushed him out of the.
Way and Kamala got her come up.
Which brings us to the Australian ambassador in the United States. Now you've heard too much about this in the past couple of weeks, but let's be very clear. The reason Kevin Rudd is in a world of trouble is because he is an absolutely poor fit for the new broom that is coming to Washington. The only way that he was going to be a long term option was if
there was a Democratic president that was going to be there. Now, remember to Kevin Rudd and Anthony Aberneze's worldview Donald Trump was never a chance of winning any election ever, and of course we knew that the price of Kevin Rudd helping his former deputy prime minister to win the twenty twenty two election was that he would be sent to Washington. Now, of course at the time we were told that's definitely
not happening. But each way, Albow unsurprisingly ended up doing the exact opposite of what he had said during a campaign. But since Donald Trump became close to the polls and let alone has won the presidency in the past week, all of the things that Kevin Rudd has said over the years about Donald Trump have resurfaced.
And why wouldn't that.
Trump at present represents a political liability for both sides of Australian politics. This guy is a problem, but the underpinnings of it was still incoherent because Trump himself was incoherent.
The United States in the last four years has been run by a village idiot.
Now again, everyone has the right to have whatever you they want about a political leader, but of course there are consequences if the job that you want, the job that you have is to deal with all types of people on the political spectrum, including the people that you have well frankly called out, criticized or frankly abused in a snobbish fashion like Rudd has over Trump.
Now.
Of course, when Trump was asked about this by Nigel Farage, you know what his position was.
I don't know much about him. I heard he was a little bit nasty. He who's not the writer's bulb. But I don't know much about him. But if he's at all hostile.
He will not be there long.
Well.
Today, the uniformity of the political class to suggest that because Kevin wants the job, Kevin can have the job, and Kevin can have the job for as long as Kevin wants the job, because in part the political class is excited that there's a form of verbal handcuffs that are on him by having to represent the government rather than trying to sort of be some shadow prime minister or some alternative leader rolling around saying whatever he wants.
Was broken and was broken by Peter Dutton, who, while not calling for a change in the Australian ambassador, obviously is in the right place, which is, if we have a problem with our chief representative to the United States, it is a problem of this government's making because they decided to throw him in when, of course there was always a fifty to fifty.
Chance that Trump would come back.
The ambassador has to have a functional, working relationship with the administration, whether that's a Democrat or Republican administration. Of course, it's not just mister rh I mean, we're talking about mister Albinisi and Senator Wong and others in the Labor Party who have seen fit to criticize to criticize President elect Trump.
Now, all of that's not news to you, But what is now starting to happen is that apparently the replaying of the criticism that Kevin Rudd has offered in multiple forums for multiple years about Donald Trump is apparently part of some sort of grand conspiracy from the company of which owns this television station and thus is my employer, And it is being pushed by people who should know better, but they're more than happy to play to the narrative.
Now again, we've seen that one of the things that Trump scrambles the circuits of is of the establishment, the people who believe that certain things were work in a certain way, and that establishment exists in every Western country.
It exists here too, in Australia.
And while Australia doesn't get referred to as things like the swamp or the deep state, there are the people that have been around for both sides of politics for
a long period of time. And Dennis Richardson is a person who has played significant roles in national defense, national intelligence and has had plenty to say after representing all sides of politics and as a significant member of those communities, well, he's pushing along this whole idea that to replay the comments of Kevin Rudd critical of the incoming president, that it's somehow an agenda being set by one news company. Because Kevin Rudd is very pointed in his criticisms of
this news company. He spoke to Michelle Gratton, a person who has been around for a very long time in the Camber Press Gallery in no surprise, but this is what she's spun out today in the New Daily website, which is a new site that is paid for by union superannuation money. Precisely nothing what Australia should do when it comes to Kevin Rudd and Donald Trump the funeral or over Australia's ambassador to Washington, Kevin is a self
licking ice cream created by some at Sky News. Former Defense chief and former Ambassador of the United States Dennis Richardson says. Richardson says, the present controversy around radis quote not an issue that arose out of any normal process.
This is an issue that is being pursued by one news outlet.
What if any diplomat had the record of criticism of the government he is about to he or she is about to interact with.
It's a news story.
Just because it's an inconvenient news story does not mean that it is all part of the wider agenda that people believe exists. Now again, Kevin Rudd, as a free citizen, has every right to say whatever he wants about anything that he wants. He can try to say that the Australian media doesn't have things like taxpayer funded rates or
television stations, in fact, two of them. He can pretend that when you're adding up who, what and where and how many columns and how many minutes and how many signals, that the ABC doesn't exist or SBS doesn't exist, or that due to the Internet, your capacity to read The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Times of India or the Sun news, whatever you want to read is out there, and that's the news environment that we live in today.
But how is it not a.
Legitimate, reasonable news story to turn around and say that the ambassador of Australia, who has said plenty of nasty things about the incoming president of the United States may well not get along with the incoming president of the United States, who we know odd's a grudge. Now you can look at that exclusively from the Trump side, that it's Trump who has the problem. And if Trump doesn't change the way that he relates to Australia, then that's
his problem, not our problem. And of course the American president shouldn't be able to dictate whom our ambassador is. But when governor to make decisions about who represents our country, you're supposed to find the best possible fit, and very obviously at the moment, Rudd is not that best possible fit. But again, while the media talking about the media is the single most boring thing for people like yourself who are watching the media.
Sometimes you do have to stand up for yourself. And I don't say this on the behalf of my company.
I say this is a fairly common sense person who reads all of the media all the day. Who's swum in it for an entire career? Again, a little more from this story. News Corp has been running hard on this story for months. This, by the way, was the City Morning Herald and it's editorial today Rudd spoke sense about Trump. It's a vengeful news Corp that has the explaining to do.
Again.
If the City Morning, Let's imagine it was Scott Morrison who said a whole bunch of nasty things about the Labor Party in the UK, and he was the ambassador for Austrated to the UK, it'd be just as legitimate a story. But News Corp has been running hard on this for months, ramping up the sense of crisis the point where it has created one media campaigns can be a force for good.
This one by News Corp is a disgrace. Again, he said it multiple times.
Anyone who has a sentilla of understanding of the way American politics works is that one of two sides is going to win a presidential election. And four years ago I wouldn't have thought that Donald Trump was returning to the presidency, but it became clear two years ago that
he was nominating for the presidency. It became clear a year ago that he was going to win the Republican nomination, and now we deal with the reality that he is the president of the United States, one who does not need to seek re election, and one who will try to change his country in his mind, it is supporter's mind for the better over the next four years.
Now, Australia is.
Not going to become some sort of a quasi enemy or is going to be put in the naughty corner because of Kevin and Run. In fact, the relationship between Australia and the United States always exists in spite of the president or in this case, in spite of the ambassador.
But the idea that to point out that a.
Person who has form of saying a whole collection of nasty things about the incoming president of the United States may not get along with the President of the United States is hardly a media campaign. And the second that he decides at whatever time to leave the position of ambassador in Washington, I'll tell you the first thing he's going to do.
He's going to get.
Straight back into the campaign that is about a royal commission into the very organization that I work for, an attempt to somehow shut it down or silence it. So I'd like to know what the four D chess idea here is is that the News Corp campaign is to get rid of Kevin Rudd so he can come back to lead the charge against News Corp as.
A Royal Commission. Yeah, okay, that's the thinking.
Now let's get to some big changes happening while everyone is distracted by lots of other news, lots of other things that are happening, and they are going to be big changes to the way our elections work.
This should be a lead story. It should be a big story.
But because it gets a little bit complicated and there's not that much sexy pictures to show you, you probably haven't heard about this in the six PM years. Some dirty deals are being done amongst the major parties in
and around Parliament House. Now, as you know, in many states around the country, state governments have turned around and have changed the way that elections are funded, where the political parties get more money from their version of the Electoral Commission based on the number of votes that they get from you or I at a state or federal election, but equally they're created caps on how much money can be spent by an individual candidate or an individual party
in an individual seat. But then of course there are the third party or independent groups that are allowed to spend the same amount of money. And we see in the case of Queensland, in the case of West Australia, and in the case of Victoria that the unions, despite the fact that they are literally fifty percent of the Labor Party. Every Labour MP, state or federal is a member of a union, and the unions, according to the constitution of the Labor Party, are fifty percent of the organization.
They picked the candidates, they pick the policies, they pick the leaders, but they are under these electoral fiddles referred to as independent. So in a place like Queensland, where there are dozens of unions, it meant that at any one time that the Labor Party was able to outspend anyone else on the ballot paper by the best part of ten to one. Because you see the independent union that is able to spend as much money as the candidate. Well, one union, two union, three reunions. You get how big
the financial advantage becomes. Now, this isn't just something about people who want a fair play between Team Red and Team Blue. But it also means a massive financial advantage is handed firstly to the existing candidate, the existing party, and the party who of course ends up with government, which means more seats, more votes, has more money than their opposition. That's not the way our system should work.
To have a permanent, taxpayer funded system that is slanted so heavily in one direction in favor of the existing MP, the existing party, or the existing government, it means that minor parties, Independence or Greens are at a significant financial disadvantage.
Well.
An attempt to change this system is underway. In fact, the federal government has been for months trying to negotiate the very fiddle to the system that has been put in place in Queensland, in Victoria and in Western Australia. And we learn today again via the Sydney Morning Herald that Labor and the Coalition have apparently done a deal to help fiddle the system when it comes to the
money going into federal elections. The major Party on the cusp of a critical deal to overhaul Australia's election system and strip big money from politics, with a plan to ward off US style elections dominated by billionaire backers gaining in principal agreement from Labor and the Coalition. Now I've said this many times before. When they talk about cap on spending, what they try to do is try and tell you that it's all about.
Clive Palmer, the client.
Palmer using his own money should be limited about how much money he can spend in advocacy of his candidates. You see in twenty nineteen when the message was very clear against Bill Shorten, that message and then Preferences ended up re electing the Liberal Party when the message was put them all last. Well, we all know what happened to the twenty twenty two election. But that's Clive's right as a citizen to use his own money in service of a political party that yes, he'd get somebody elected,
Ralph Babbitt to the Senate via Victoria. But you see, the other billionaire they never really talk about with this stuff is the one whose money helped win way more seats, and that Simon Holmes a court. Now, he, of course who the Climate two hundred group is able to hand so called independence despite the fact they all believe the same things, say the same thing, market themselves the same You get the point, and they're able to have a money advantage to start a campaign, to be able to
always go after conservative members of the Liberal Party. They don't have any track record of running against people in the Labor Party. So Clive Palmer bad billionaire, Simon Holmes a court good billionaire. Yeah, okay, so let's explain how this system is going to work. According to The Sidney Morning Herald, The Age, the Brisbane Times or They reported in August that elements of the draft legislation being considered include a cap on the amount of money that a
candidate is likely to receive. It is also expected to include a limit on how much a party can spend. Surprise, surprise, that we talked about here. But here's the devil in the detail. Despite the fact that apparently this is an urgent need to change our political system, the rules will not apply for the upcoming federal election. They will apply to the election after that, and of course what happens
between the next election and the election after that. While all of this legislation could be completely drawn up again, meaning it's all about making it look like they're changing
the system, then actually changing the system. And why would they only want to look like they were changing the system, because it's pretty obvious that if the polls are correct, we are headed towards a minority government, meaning that either the Labor Party or in the best case scenario, the Liberal Party get themselves into a position where they need somebody else on the crossbench to be able to give them the support to form a government.
Well, of course, those people are the.
Ones, particularly the Teals, directly affected by change in caps. They are the people if it happens to be another United Australian Party MP like Clive was elected to the Lower House who would be affected by the caps. So beware what looks like a solution to a problem that
isn't really a big problem in Australian politics. And what do you think if there was a minority Labor government propped up by the Teals, do you think that the changes that had passed the Parliament for the not this election but the one after would stand or would they
magically melt away? Meaning of course the Teals would end up with a system where the Liberal Party or the Greens, or One Nation or the Victorian Socialists or the United Australian Party is in a position where there's a limit on how much can be spent at any one time in any one's seat, apart from.
Independent groups like the Unions.
But of course what may will end up turning up here is a scenario where they will end up making a scenario where the Liberal Party, if in opposition, would have less money than the Labor Party, who would have greater ability to have so called independent supporters flooding the market. They would of course find a way to say they run backsides while doing in the Liberal Party. That of course would be bad for democracy, but you're not allowed to say that. It's only lefties who get to say
democracy is a threat all day every day. Got some bad news if you, like me, are part of the third of the country that's trying to pay off a house. Now we learn today that, of course the Preserve Bank due to meet in the next little while. The expectations were that if there was to be a rate cut, it could happen as early as February. Now this is not going to be massive because this this been twelve
interestrate rise. As it doesn't matter if they take it down by a quarter of a percent or even half of a percent, it'd be nice, but it's not going to change the financial position of many in most Australians who've had to find literally tens of thousands of dollars extra since this mob came to government to be.
Able to pay off the House.
Well, the expectations were that February would be when that was going to take place, But get ready for that expectation to now start to move down the road. Now, by their own admission, the people who are desperately finding ways for this government to get re elected as a majority or as a Teal and Green assisted minority, will they say that Anthony Aberaneze it needs interest rates to fall. If they don't his re election and chances certainly will.
So it is with some interest today that the Financial Review writes a piece saying interest rates could be on hold for all of twenty twenty five. So slight relief maybe at the start of twenty twenty five could well be pushed off deep into.
Twenty twenty five. The best case scenario right now is.
That, according to the National Australian Bank, they believe that we are now looking at potentially the first of interest rate cuts to happen in May, right on top of a federal election.
But of course my suggestion would be that after twelve.
Interest rate rises. If we go back to the eleventh of the interestrate rise, Australians will not be clicking their heels with lee because they still will have been dealing with the pain of the past couple of years, and they will be punishing a government who remember, we drew fifteen hundred dollars from ten mini Australians at a time when they could least afford it. There's also this information about why the Reserve Bank may will be holding off
from Channel nine tonight. And remember this is the same bloke who said mission accomplished a couple of weeks ago, when the government, of course was falsely and fiddling with the inflation figures as a result of their power rebate scheme.
Number of jobs in our economy is still rising, which is good, but that might cost us interest rate cuts. The unemployment rate remains steady in October at four point one percent with fifteen nine hundred new jobs created, and the RBA's most reason forecast points to four and a half percent by the end of next year, so according to them, it's still too low right now, and between us, the experts are getting less and less confident the Central
Bank will lower interest rates next year. This shows what the market was expecting. At the start of October, almost four rate cuts were being factored in for next year, but by late October there were two cups expected. Now one is being priced in. A big part of the reason for that is because the labor market is staying so tight. Basically, it seems we'll need to see a lot more people lose their jobs before interest rates start falling either way.
A will of pay for a government that deserves to feel it, because we've been feeling it for way too long. Another thing that's playing out as we speak, which is in the next couple of weeks when Parliament comes back, the government is going to try to censor the Internet. Don't fall for the Misinformation Bill. It's about censoring the Internet.
And while the Internet is a world away from where it was in the early days in the nine nineties and the early two thousands of a wild West where you could pretty much say whatever you want wherever you want, big companies have rolled in and taken over large swathes of Internet land, no question about it. But the Prime Minister and is Communication Minister have been trying to find a way to plug the information hole now they believe it's about lies and disinformation.
But the reality is, of.
Course, as we just saw in the United States, that as soon as you start to step out of the old school media into the new school media, then the population can't be what was the word that Hillary said, oh controlled, that's right, and there of course has been an explosion in the amount of information that people are able to get via the Internet. Literally, Sky News now has five million YouTube subscribers. Congratulations to Tim Jack and all of our digital team who have worked their absolute
backsides off. But I will make it very clear that is frightening to those in the federal government who believe that organizations like ours that challenge all day every day what they do is that this is a space they don't control. The Internet is of course something that is global.
So there are these attempts to so called sense of the Internet where they turn around and they would find social media companies if you decided to post a to information that someone somewhere decided was misinformation, now how would they decide what the truth is? Well, of course far left wing think tank would turn around and rule at something that I said was misinformation, despite the fact that in every editorial every time I show you the data
before throwing on the opinion on top of it. Right, Yes, the bricks are the data. The opinion is the mortar that holds the wall together. But these left wing groups they turn around and say, well, according to this report and that report, and this report, and this guy and this guy and this expert and this person who's always.
Disagreed that what you've just seen is clearly misinformation.
And then they fact checkers would then go off to the broadcasting authority, which has turned around and said some of the nastiest things about pretty popular radio.
Programs like Colin Jack Yoda should be taken.
Off the air, cheered on by the media watch class.
You get the point here, right, What this really is about is not about saving you from all world of lies. There's already a whole series of legislation that we adhere to hear about defamation, that we adhere to about all sorts of different broadcasting standards. But it's the idea that the government does not want information that it does not approve to be able to spread like wildfire, because of
course that means they're not able to hold onto their control. Well, next week is when this will actually start to move to its final phase. We will learn whether they can censor the Internet in the country or whether there are some politicians left who do believe in free speech. The Senate will finally vote on this legislation before the end of the year, and the maths is starting to get
tight for the government. And normally they would have a pretty easy passage of legislation because you need thirty nine votes to pass a law. You'd have the Labour Party voting together with the Greens, that gets you thirty six and you only need three other votes to be able
to get it over the line. Now, obviously with one nation, with a series of other former Liberal or National MPs saying no that a're now sitting on the cross benches, and of course the United Australian Party, then we are down to just one, two, three, four, five potential places they can get a vote. Pocock, lamby Thorpe, Tyrrell and payment well in the past twenty four hours or so. As I told you last night, you can strike one name off the list, and that is David Pocock. He
will not be voting for the legislation. You can strike another name off Tammy Tyrell. She will not be voting for the legislation that leaves specifically three left. So if Lamby or Thorpe or Payment decided to vote against it, then the bill will die for those three senators. Don't pay attention to me, pay attention to other people, including experts and legal experts, have referred to this is a
deeply flawed piece of legislation. Also look forward to the ABC saying that the early days of the pandemic explodes the flaw in the government's misinformation laws, say legal experts, who decides what's true, the gaping hole in the misinformation laws. The conversation how the federal government's misinformation bill might impede freedom of speech.
That is what is before you.
There are already laws in this country that are enforced daily about deformation, meaning you can't tell lies about people on television or radio, and that would extend to the internet versions of what content is made here on television or if you're listening via Sky News radio. There's also a whole series of codes that exist about misinformation already.
The idea that now into the social media world, we would introduce these new ways of shutting down debate, well, it works for the far left as it does for the far right, It works for the center left as it does for the center right. It works for the center as it does for the polar opposites. Government should not decide what truth is data, information, and experience.
And if you can show the working in your argument, then your argument should be allowed to be heard.
If you disagree with it, then you are free to use information, data and your way of arguing against it. But the idea of shutting it down before it even gets off first base to a point where essentially the social media companies can't be bothered posting the content from insert media provider because they can't be bothered for filling
out the paperwork. Well, that is of course the desired effect, the chilling effect, and that is not something that anyone in the Australian media should be cheering on.
That's all. But wait, watch and see.
Next week is when we will find out exactly what side those senators are on. Upgrade Albo, what about this for a new poll showing that, surprise, surprise, Australians don't like the idea that people use their position of power to get themselves an upgrade on a flight pole question, here was about Anthony Albersi. Thirty percent of people say sure, he can get upgraded whenever he wants. Thirty five percent said that he shouldn't be getting them for personal flights.
Twenty four percent said that he shouldn't be getting them for work or personal flights. The same when it comes to overall members and their ability to get flights here where what the best part of Fifty one percent of people say they should be banned outright or certainly banned for personal flights. And as for the membership for thirty nine percent of people say absolutely no, they should refuse
the land's memberships. Forty five percent of people say fair enough, and presumably the rest said I've got something else.
To talk about. Can I talk about that please?
And finally, le's talk here about pollution, Let's talk about climate change, and let's talk about China demanding money from us. China is the biggest polluter in the world. Don't trust me, trust the information, trust the data, the bricks. As I add the mortar to the argument of the wall here, thirty three percent of global carbon emissions come from China.
Then it's India, then it's the United States, then it's Russia, then it's Indonesia, then it's Brazil, then it's the EU, then it's Japan, then it's South Korea, and we are one percent of the thirteen percent of the rest of
it that are called others. China says that the western world, including Australia, should give countries like them one point eight t four trillion dollars, not once, but every year, and this should be the amount of money that the first world pays to the third world for them to.
Be able to deal with climate change.
China has led the call for developed countries including Australia, to provide one point three or one point eight trillion dollars in Australia each and every year. The Climate Change Minister is on his way to these negotiations to work out exactly how much money is going to be put before.
All of this. But what sticks in microwel here is the biggest polluter in the world.
China has the balls to turn around and demand it from the rest of the world that they need money to produce less pollution because they are a developing nation. Now, of course they are a self defined developing nation. But I want you to think about how many small African countries. How many of the poorest parts of Asia that are truly developing countries have the type of wealth that China has.
Now.
China, of course, don't forget, has a space station. It has a space station and a space program that, by the way, is about trying to work out how to set up a moon base. They don't even just have a space station. They're trying to come up with a new shuttle that will work like a taxi service to go to and from China to space. This so called developing country that wants its slice of one point eight trillion dollars has held not one, but two Olympic Games
this century. That is not a developing country. That is a first world country that intentionally keeps parts of its population in poverty or in slave labor so it can turn around and fiddle the global system. Australia needs to do its bit, but Australia is one percent of the world's problem. The idea that the one percent of the world's problem has to send money to the one producing thirty three percent of the world's problem is a disgrace.
We'll discuss that and a whole lot more than a moment or two is time here on Paul Murray Live. Glad you're watching us this Thursday night. Niger Faraj standing by and a crack of jackpanel next da go anywhere.
Thanks for watching. I can't believe it and do this too. Last night I got very caught up in everything and I was a.
Little bit jet late Zadi's birthday yesterday, a beautiful little girl turned seven. It's my little rock star. She's awesome. We will of course celebrate it over the weekend. But thank you to all of you wherever we go with our tan. So it's how the kids, how those Ash and Zadi are awesome. They are great and they are certainly looking forward to a fun summer with mum, dad
and their mates. All right, let's get into this right now with people who love their families as well, none other than Caroline Marcus and of course Michael Kroger love you both, guys.
Let's get straight to it.
So, Michael, let's explain the logic here.
The four D Chess apparently is that News Corp is going after Kevin Rudd to blast him out of the job in Washington so we can come back to lead the call for the Royal Commission into News Corp. Now let's be really clear, right, Let's now take this again away from some of the news some of the media garbage.
Right, Rudd said this stuff about Trump.
Right, If you're a professional diplomat or somebody wanting to be a diplomat, then one of the reasons why we sometimes get frustrated with politicians is there a little bit beige and they're a little bit fifty to fifty. Right, But when you want to be a partisan, or you want to be somebody who's going to take pretty strong criticism, then you can't be expecting to put your hand up to be a job to end up having a deal
with in this case, Trump's America. How I mean again, I just what's your reaction to the scenario that Rudd has put himself in and the people who were pretending that there's some sort of media game when any other organization, as if the ABC wouldn't play the comments of Scott Morrison about insert country that he was being sent to.
Mate. Everyone in the Labor Party told Anthony Albernis, not for point Rudd, Penny Wong told him. Other people around him said, did not appoint this guy. It was a captain's pick. And he appointed him, and this is what's happened. Not all the comments that he was known to have made before he was appointed were known. The one that Shari marks and produced the other night of him calling him the village idiot, and a couple of others. No one had seen that before, and I'm sure there are
others that out there too. So to say this is some kind of media conspiracy, and the Sydney Morning Herald, you know, I'm really disappointed their editorial. So that's a news limited conspiracy, as if people made up these quotes.
You correct.
This is all this guy's own work. It's his own work. It's his own work. And to suggest that there's some kind of plot or conspiracy against this guy for just publicizing his own work, I'll tell you where we are today, mate, I'll tell you where we are today. This country is now in a position we're our prime minister. And by the way, for all those people criticizing Dutton, Morrison, Abbott, Hockey and Birmingham for supporting Rudd, don't criticize him. There's
thing called Australia first. So when an Australian ambassador representative is overseas, it's an unwritten rule amongst all the parties, you always support that person. So that's why the Liberal Party at a federal level have come behind, not because any of them think he should stay. I don't think, but because that's the way this game works. You support Team Australia overseas. But we're now in under a third position. Mate, we're Albanezi, who's going to be in South America and says,
oh Mari Laga is not on the route. It's eight hours from where he's going to Florida. He cannot go and visit Trump. Why why can't he go and visit Trump? Because the protocol is you take your ambassador with you.
Good point, really, good point?
No, no, excellent?
Yeah? I love this is it? Carolina?
And that's.
That's all right. I'll jump back in here.
Se delay there to Adelaide, Radelaide.
Doing it best.
Good to know you're there for the supercars by the way, go and watch the boom brooms going around this weekend championship decider.
But again, Caroline, about run.
The look if he stays, if they decide to stick in there and find him fair enough, the idea that the stuff that he has said is not a story is just rubbish.
It's a classic case of shoot the messenger. And as if these journalists wouldn't have reported it if they had got it first, or maybe they wouldn't because there is a political agenda there for people who work as well at the nine newspapers. Let's admit it. As you said, if it was Scott Morrison or someone on the side that they dislike, then it would very much be a front page story. What are we supposed to do cover
up his past comments, pretend they don't matter. I mean, even Kevin Rudd deleted his tweets so he can see they matter.
But also it's this thing where and again, you know, just because it happened in America a couple a week ago doesn't mean everything's the same here in Australia, right, But one of the absolute lessons right was that the media ecosystem ain't what it was two years ago, five.
Years ago, ten years ago. And the idea that the idea that oh, there's no.
One in the world who could possibly turn around and see what the problem is, it's just ridiculous, all right. What do you think about China, Michael and this idea that I'll wear a self declared devilop, big.
Nation with a space station, with two Olympics.
Oh but you know we deserve a crack at one point eight trillion dollars a year when they are polluting the world thirty three times more than Australia.
And Bowen's already signed up to this garbage.
Look, I mean we see this at every one of the international conferences. There's there's pressure on the West for more contributions, reparations, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, this is an old card three card trick that we see played at so many of these international conferences, whether it's
the Pacific Island Forum, et cetera, cetera. The West that developed Western countries are always being asked to pay reparations, contributions, whatever, and the Chinese to say they're developing countries, so of course the one point eight trillion they don't have to contribute. Oh please, we've seen this playbook before, and for Bowen to sign up to it, well, Chris, how much you
how much Chris are we contributing? Perhaps he could announce at that conference how much the Australian taxpayer is contributing. And the more they contribute, the more seats are boys going to lose?
Mate?
Well, and don't forget these idiots want to host one of these conferences here.
I'll tell you what.
When interest rates are where they are, where inflation is where it is, when potential job losses are where they are, the idea that this government yet again is going to show what its priority is is going to go down like the proverbial lead balloon Caroline you're reporting.
On are and also at scotties dot com dot he.
Was both mentioning specifically here it's not in primetime, which is about barbershop in southwest Sydney.
What have they done? What have you found?
Well, let's not implicate the whole barbershop, but the owner of the barbershop, zax Or. He's a gentleman who's been posting prolifically some really disturbing staff, glorifying the leaders of Haslah and Hamas and talking about jihad being the greatest deed. He is under police investigation for these posts, which include two video which appear to be taken from a site in South Lebanon that has the Hesbela logo and military
weapons military uniforms in it. I confronted him at the barber shop that he owns, and he claimed that he has no regrets over this, that police have visited him and had a friendly chat with him, That's how he described it. He doesn't think he's in any trouble. That's the impression he says he's got from police officers. And I guess that's the most disturbing thing. I mean, this is one guy, and he's certainly not an isolated case.
There are plenty, as we've seen on the streets holding HESBELA flags who are really thumbing their nose at authorities because we introduced laws back in January that the display of terror symbols are prohibited. But where has any of them have any of the prosecutions Meet Paul.
I don't regret any of that, because at the end of the day, I'm not saying I'm a did with anything but the day, those are the people who are standing up for innocent children being bombed and killed. I know for a fact that these associations aren't terror's goods.
I'm glad he knows that our government's got it wrong, apparently by prescribing them as such.
All right, now, Michael, you're a money man, so I've got to ask you this question, or at least you're aware of money, right, you know that you know how things move bitcoin Now, when I was recently in the States, yes it was a casino, Yes it was Las Vegas.
There was like there was a bitcoin eighty m right. And bitcoin is.
Something that certainly a lot of people think, you know, is going to rise as an alternative currency under the Trump administration.
Elon Musk, you know, being not so subtle.
About that with his reference to doge as the organization he's going to be leading to have a look at the line by line through the federal budget today. Interestingly, the head of the Reserve Bank says, this is garbage. It's not real money, it's not in real money, and it's not going to be accepted here. Your thoughts on whether we'll have to accept bitcoin as a way of paying for things.
Here, Well, the great news is this, Not only did Michelle Bullet, the head of Reserve Bank, say what you said she said, but she said something else, very profound. She said she didn't understand bitcoin. So for all those people at home who've got no idea what it is, you are in the same boat as Michelle Bullock, who's been in the treasure, but in treasure in the financial markets for thirty years. So I'm in that boat too. Here's the simple here's the simple truth of the thing.
Central banks issue currency. Our currency is issued by the Reserve Bank. It's not issued by the local butcher shop, the barbershop, the car dealer or anyone else. It's issued by central banks. And this was a point made to me years ago by the Great Henry Ergast from the Australian who made that simple point when I was asking him about bitcoin, and he said he didn't particularly understand it either, because anyone could then issue money if it
wasn't through a central bank. So comfort yourself in the knoll that if Michelle Bullock and the Reserve and the Treasury don't issue, Treasury don't issue money, then it's really got no value. It's an asset class that a lot of people believe in and think's got value. Good on them if they want to pay eighty thousand US dollars for a bit of bitcoin, good on them. But it's
not a tradeable asset class of any great certainty. You can barter with it in the same way that you can go to a shop and say I've got an old washing machine. Can I swap that for you for chik chicken and chips if you want to, you can barter with it. But is it currency? No, it's not currency.
All right, guys, appreciate it.
Thank you very much for isn't loses when we've got more time next time because of the great winner that is.
Nigel Farage joins.
Us straight after the break.
He's in London plenty to fire up about basking in the Trump glory, but also some madness in the UK.
Nigel Farage exclusive. It's to Paul Moorray life exit leader, Reform Party leader and a very happy man. Is none other than mate Nigel Farrage.
Nigel, you were there in mary Lago, you were in the room as it was all because, I mean clear, what was it like a week ago?
It was an honor, a genuine honor to be the only British person in the room. And there it was. There was Donald Trump sitting in the middle of the room with family, with Elon Musk, Dana White and around were friends, mar A Largo members, donors. There were no cameras, there were no journalists taking notes and writing about it. It was a very private occasion. And the extraordinary thing was I started the evening off, I was very bullish.
I'd been outside a polling station that morning in Pennsylvania. I was convinced he was going to win. Most people were a bit cautious, and as the whooping and hollering began, Trump just sat there, relaxed, having an ice cream, as if kind of no big deal. I mean, he is one cool dude. I got to tell you, no, it was honestly memorable, and I I can't think, I really genuinely can't think of a more dramatic, decisive election result at any point in my life.
It really is a big deal.
Yeah, And we've all had this floating feeling since, right, which is this sense of reset, this sense of recalibration, and an opportunity for things to head off in a.
Direction that we would all love to see. I hope it all happens now.
Obviously, today you saw the meaning between Trump and Biden, and we've got to say, you know, while we've all wailed on Joe Biden, he stepped up right. They both showed themselves to be bigger men than things they had said in the past. I liked it. It was a regret that it didn't happen four years ago, but I thought it was great it happened today.
No, I agree entirely.
And you know, both of them behave with dignity and said nice, decent things, and that's all well and good. And a transition is going at absolutely breakneck speed.
And let me tell you something.
In twenty sixteen, when I arrived in Trump Tower a couple of days after the election, I was the first foreigner to see Donald Trump after his first victory. They hadn't expected to win. There was no planning or preparation for what was to come at all. It was like, you know, a completely shock. He has the power of patronage over three, maybe even four thousand people, and they've been planning this now for the last eighteen months.
And what you're going to.
See is Trump going into office on January the twentieth, putting people that he trusts and knows in the key positions. And the most exciting of all, of course, is Ilon Musk with this new Doge Department that's going to cut back the size of a state, cut back the waste of taxpayers money. I mean, that is for me, the most exciting thing I've seen since Margaret Thatcher closed down
lots of government authorities and got rid of people. You know, government is too big, and goodness me, it's worse than Australia.
I think in terms of.
The amount of state does the amount of laws you've got that it is probably anywhere else. So this could be, this could be an object lesson for all of us.
Forgive me for any giving you thirty seconds to explain the Allison Pearson situation.
But she's a columnist in a newspaper. She puts out a bunch of tweets in the police turner.
Alison Pearson, very respected columnist, podcast, a commentator, very decently in every way too, please turn up on remembrance Sunday morning and say she's in trouble for a non crime hate incident. She asks, what was it? I said, we can't tell you. Who is it that has complained? No, the victim, the victim has complained. Who is the victim? We can't tell you, And off they go saying it may become a criminal matter. Basically, this is state intimidation.
It's saying keep your mouth shut, stop criticizing, or you will be in trouble. And it isn't just happening to Allison. It's happening to thousands of people all over Britain, many of whom, all of whom don't have the voice like she does to fight back. It is Orwellian, it is kafcrasque. It is horrifying and we've got to stand up and fight it.
Yeah, if you want to see more about this story and plenty more. Nigel of Courses on GP News. Lovely to see you mate. We'll see you again next week. We'll have more time to talk about it. All right, that's it for the show for this week. We'll see you again Sunday Night, where the news only ever gets bigger. Go Yankees have a great We again