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This is Paul Murray Live. Can I make The Night before the Budget is my favorite night of the year, not because it's about the budget, but because perhaps the most cringey thing that any politician goes through and puts the media through and puts the public through, is when the politicians sit there and read their own budget and mark their own homework. Now, they don't expect the audio to be shown anywhere because it's normally just pictures that
end up on the six PM news. Tonight the most awkward I've ever seen, and he's just the dayste.
I think we should be really proud of it. You know, it's ambitious, but it's responsible at the same time.
Great work.
The full cringe in a month or two is time. But I want to talk about some other things, including some updates to big stories that you may well not have heard about to this point in time. We'll get to some of the other stuff a bit later. Great show tonight as well, looking forward to a big debate with Senator Matt Can with Matt Cunningham from the Northern Territory to talk about this live export issue. I know it's massive for people watching us in Regional Australia. We
get to that in the moment or two's time. But as we know, the Labor Party wants to censor the Internet, and they say that the video of the stabbing that happened a few weeks ago in Western Sydney must be banned. You cannot see it. It's too naughty, it's too evil, it will inspire too many other crazies. And the e safety Karen has told us that, in our own.
Words, it is vital that we don't use social media as a tool for division and fear, but instead as an instrument of solidarity and social cohesion. Online spaces should be safe for everyone, no matter a person's culture, faith, or background.
Yes, Karen, Yes Karen, Please don't cancel me off the Internet, Karen, Please don't tell me that what I say is misinformation, even though we show you the data each and every night. So, of course, rather than talking about radicalization and teen radicalization, and there's been like almost ten kids in the space of a couple of weeks that we now know are accused of horrible things, including a couple who are alleged to have actually gone on to do those horrible things.
On no, no, no, everyone was talking about the real villain here, not radical Islam, not a hate preacher, but a billionaire from Texas.
We're seeing megomaniacs like Elon Musk going to court to fight for the right to show terrorist content, alleged terrorist content on his platform.
It just shows his arrogance.
This is an egotist, totally out of touch.
He clearly sees this as a vanity project for himself.
El Must has no social conscience or conscience whatsoever. Quite frankly, the bloker should be jailed. The power that that man has because of that platform that he's on. It's got to stop. That bloke has no conscience. He's an absolute freaking disgrace. And there's nothing else to say about Alel Musk.
Speaking of Karen's by the way, poor David Pocock, I say poor David Pocock, because I know he'll just do it the government wants in the end, and he'll vote for this. But even when Jackie Lamby's just going off like the Catherine Will, I'm just writing notes. Maybe no one will see that I'm here and agreeing with every word she says. Well, of course they went off to court and the e Safety Karen was able to get about sixty five videos taken down because if you saw them,
somehow everything would go wrong. Well, today a court has now overturned the ban that the E Safety Karen wants on those videos. Now the thing is still playing out in court, so who knows what will happen at the end of the week. But today a federal court judge has rejected the E Safety Commissioner and her application to extend the injunction which would have forced X to continue
blocking the content. Now, whether it's all been freed up tonight or not, we'll all wait and watch and see, but definitely, even for a day, the Karen's lost, and no doubt, Rather than talking about the realization that leads to the stabbings, we'll go back to talking about Elon Musk, but only after, of course, the greatest budget of all time has fixed everyone's financial problems. I'll get to it in a second. But also another little update today, another
little change in what the official story is. This one in relation to the Bondai stabbing of a few weeks ago, when, as you know, six people, including the security guard died along the members of the public, murdered by a piece of work, who was then taken down by the police. Good to see, But in the days that followed we kept hearing over and over again that obviously this was a crime that was targeted against women, so much so that the police commissioner even said as.
Such, it's obvious to me, it's obvious to detectives that seems to be an area of interest that the offender had focused on women and avoided the men.
Now for obvious reasons. Five of the six people who died were women, so that's how the conclusion was made. But of course he stabbed more people who he ended up injuring, as well as those the lives of which he took well. Today, the Daily Telegraph has done an interesting follow up where they've spoken to an awful lot of people who still are reeling from the tragedy, the people who were there on the day, who were treating in the hospitals, the police that have been doing the
best to investigate here. And I want to read something because it's a little change from what the official line is. The Telegraph can reveal that Isabel's police are no longer convinced that the killer, remember we don't use his name, who was a schizophrenic from Queensland was targeting women in his knife attack on April thirteenth, twenty twenty four. Quote. Do I think that he was targeting women?
No?
I don't. He stabbed three men and a baby. He was just running around stabbing people, say as a senior police officer who wasn't willing to put their name to it. But isn't it interesting because under the rules of misinformation, if you had questioned the narrative about what had happened in Bondai, well the official line from the police was that it was the targeting of women. But if at the time you simple hang on, he also killed a male security guard, and he stabbed a baby, and what
about other people that he stabbed? Maybe this was just the act of an absolute lunatic who I am glad is no longer on the planet. Let's be very clear about it. And sometimes things are just random. They don't
have the connections that other horrible events give us. Well, that of course would have been misinformation, which meant if you had posted that such a comment from a person like me on social media, this government wants to find social media companies for you posting what the government believes to not be the official line. Well, listen, an interesting now that the official line is starting to wobble, just as it did on COVID, just as it has multiple
times before. One of the many reasons why we cannot let this government or any government in the future, censor the Internet. All right, let's get to the budget now. Tomorrow night. We'll have a special edition in the program ninety minutes. It'll start at nine p thirty Eastern time. If you would like to join us, please do so.
Because my practice and I've been lucky enough to be doing this for a long time in this dream job of mine, that you get the spin and the interviews, and all the journalists that have been stuck together are all sort of copying each other's homework. But at nine point thirty tomorrow night, at the process of people who are not sitting around and learning what's happening in camber. Instead, we look at it with our own eyes, without the
people pouring sugar. And so we'll tell you the five things you need to know about the budget, plus a whole bunch of people that will debate it from all sides. So the great coverage tomorrow night, nine thirty. No offense to all the other the coverage, but after the main game,
we are here to bring home the dessert. And it's going to be great tomorrow and night because we are across the tricks and I'll show you all the different tricks about how they've pulled off a surplus, what they're going to do with taxation, and whether or not they're actually going to do anything of cost of living. But it's all sales pitch, sales pitch, sales pitch from the government right now, and we showed you just moments ago.
One of the excruciating little things the politicians put the media through because the media demand little footage to go with their pre budget speculation stories that run largely in the six pm news. That means that the Prime Minister and the Treasurer of the day, Liberal Labor whatever, they sit there and they flick around through the book. So this is a wonderful budget, isn't it. Because they have to talk because if they just sat there and didn't talk and it looked weird, and if they just sat
there in mouthed fake words, it'd be weird. So they just say stuff on the assumption that no one will hear it. It's cringey. It's awkward, it's weird, and this year it's the weirdest it's ever been. Bahold the Prime Minister and the Treasurer patting themselves on the back.
That's a that's a great paject provide cost of living support whilst also having that eye on the economy of the.
Future and a great budget for women. All those decisions will talk on women's safety, thousing, the care economy are the really important ones around driving economic equality for women.
I hope we should be really proud of it. You know, it's ambitious, but it's responsible at the same time. It's got a lot of help for a lot of people, but also some investment in the future, and so I think the whole team can be really proud of it.
Decisions we make today can set us up the next decade and beyond.
I could play it over and over and over again as the ultimate metaphor of the bubble within the bubble within the bubble that of course exists in camera. But as you know, the treasurer of things that we're going to be able to as a country cut inflation faster than the Reserve Bank. And this essentially matters, not just because it's a number. But because it's the Reserve Bank who makes the decision about whether or not they do or don't leave interest rates, put them up or hopefully
if you gets crossed, to pull them down. Jim Chalmers says, we can fix it all by Christmas.
So the main difference is not necessarily a difference of opinion, but a difference of timing. And so because Governor Bullock released hers before the budget and because ours will be released with the budget, it means it can take into consideration the spending restraint that we're showing, the way that we're designing our cost of living help.
But for the person who's actually making the decisions about interest rates, remember they say if we can get to between two and three percent inflation, then they won't do anything more when it comes to interest rates in terms of increasing and then slowly but surely will hold and then start to go down. But remember she doesn't think we get there by Christmas. In July, she doesn't think we'll get there by Christmas. She doesn't think that we'll
get there by the summer cricket season. She doesn't think it'll be there until even state of origin time next year.
Inflation at the moment is still declining, but it's declining less quickly than we thought, So at the moment we still think that we can make our target of coming back into target range by twenty twenty five.
So who do you believe, the politician who's just going to tell you they're doing something about cost of living but won't actually change anything in your life, or the person who's going to have to deal with the consequences of a budget that will find ways to pump even more money into the economy, thus becoming stimulatory and potentially increasing inflation at the same time petrol prices where they continue to go up, but the taxation and it won't
change at all, because of course the government is absolutely interested in cost of living. For his point, Barnaby Joyce didn't miss haven't we.
Heard this yarn before on basically everything. Well, you've got to make a choice. Do you think the RBA got it wrong with their PhDs and all their stuff and the Treasure you got it right, and the Treasure got it right.
The Labor Party got it right.
I mean the guy the promises are falling to the grid.
There's a few PhDs, the parameters are falling to the great politics you PhD in politics, not in economics. The promises are falling to the ground like the leaves in autumn.
The question everybody's going.
To ask themselves is this it's their third budget? Is your life better now than it was when the Labor Party came into power?
And who could possibly say that? It is? An elbow does? And twelve interest rate rises, not to mention all of the other issues we talk about uphill and down dal This is where the rubber hits the road, where the BS stops. Now. The BS will continue, of course tomorrow, and they'll pretend that they've come up with something. I'll tell you by nine point thirty tomorrow night, whether they've
delivered it or not. Through gritted teeth, I'll tell you that they've done the right thing, if they have done the right thing. But I think we both know they're just going to say they've done the right thing. So where do the economists sit on this? There's a blow called Chris Richardson. He's as much of a feature around budget time as any politician. He's been around for decades, constantly, always in and around the media. So which way does he thinks things are going to go?
When governments give you a subsidy, they make your electricity or your rent or your chunk cheaper. That does lower measured inflation. There's a direct impact. The Bureau Stats tells us about that. But it also gives families more money to spend. That's why governments are doing it. That extra spending, that indirect channel can actually make inflation worse rather than better. So great that governments are rearranging the pain. It's less clear that they are reducing the pain of inflation.
So that's the polite way of saying the Reserve Bank, of course, the puffery and telling us how amazing formerly Grimjim, Now Jim from Queensland, who's here to help you. We talked about this in some detail last night. All the puffy suck up pieces. Oh here he us buying flowers on Mother's Day? Oh are the cameras here? How did that happen? Well, interestingly, the flowers are actually a little bit of a metaphor because, just like everything else, flowers
have gone up since this blow became the treasurer. Somebody went and actually had a chat to a bunch of lass who came back and said, among other things, everything has increased in price, the cost of growing the flowers and Australia has gone up, wages have gone up, souper's gone up, casual rates have gone up, especially after COVID, which is why the cost of the flowers that the Treasurer is going to give himself along with the Prime Minister and the mean girl for how amazing their budget is.
But the reality is of you with somebody who bought flowers yesterday. You may notice they're a little higher than they were a couple of years ago. Of course, nothing to do with the government at all, nothing at all. And then there were the puff piece. There was this particularly unique puff piece in the Cydny Morning Herald where they did coverage on the coverage of the puff pieces. So think about how sort of you know, Chris Nolan
inception this is starting, you know, the dreams within a dream. Well, this is the coverage within the coverage of the Treasurer. Now, this of course was an interview who did with SBS that we showed you last time when he was shown people who were dealing with the cost of living. But let's get to the puff Jim Charmer's Sunday Run beguns. It begins at three forty six am, and it's a
warm up for the budget now in it. Jim Charmers has four affirmations scrawled across the top of his talking points forty one, sh hh, and wh and these are the guiding principles of the greatest treasurer of all time. Sh means steady hands, and that's because they need to keep inflation in check. HH stands for hard head, a prompt about the need to find value for money, while wh is warm heart. He needs to be reminded about warm heart, a reminder that a government plans to do
and must deliver cost of living in the budget. So because he writes notes on top of the notes about the lies they're going to sell you on the budget. Oh he's so well prepared. Thank goodness. Doctor Charmers with his scalpel is here to help for coverage tomorrow night, nine to thirty here on Sky News. Believe me be here. If you only watch one pul Marie Live a year, that's the one to watch nine point thirty tomorrow night and be there for the whole ninety minutes because I'll
have plenty to say. Now we all know that Stephen Miles is fingers crossed headed for the political wood chipper towards the end of the year. But let's be honest, queens and Labour Party is good at changing the subject. They've won elections they definitely shouldn't have. But certainly when you look at the west Ips switch by election and plenty of others, there are people, no matter how desperate he looks with his Queensland Maroon's add on, they just
walk past him. No, I'm not voting Labor, I'm not a bugger off, but not interested. So he's doing everything he possibly can to somehow pull this one out of the fire. And he thinks that he's going to be able to do what they weren't able to do in Canberra, and that's called the Supermarkets of Australia toward that he will be able to single handedly prove, in a hand selected committee dominated by the Labor Party in the Queensland
Parliament what they weren't able to do in Canberra. Now, remember when it was in Canberra, the CEOs of Woolies and coals. They got a tongue lashing from the Greens swearing in everything. Reality, of course, nothing changes, nothing will changed, But they all had their little moment in the sun and so it was the inquiry was there in Brisbane today. Now Stephen Miles was all fine up and ready to go because they were going to finally put the sword to these evil, evil supermarkets.
Queens Landers would like to hear, is a supermarket boss say we could have done better?
And that's the weirdest part. He's on the committee. Now. Normally parliamentary committees are backbenches when it comes to the opposition shadow ministers, but essentially the Premier or the Minister doesn't sit on the panel. But because he wants the whole background on the six PM news, him sitting there in the Parliament waving his fingers at the CEOs that somehow magically the people of Queensland will work out, Oh oh, he's on our side, because you know he wears the
maron's cap. Seriously. Now, as for the actual bosses of the supermarkets, they've told him to go jump. None of the CEOs are willing to sit there and go through the tongue lashing that happened at the Federal so they've actually sent a whole bunch of underlings. But of course, the fact that the CEO of Coles and woollis, wasn't there to be fingerwave that by giggles. Oh, he's very annoyed.
What we've seen from the supermarkets is they just don't seem to get it. They just don't seem to get how the impact of their prices and their practices are hurting Queensland households and hurting Queensland farmers. In particular Coals is thumbing their nose at Queenslander's thumbing their nose at the Queensland Parliament.
Just a quick mental note, think about he is comments there about Coles that particularly Coals is causing trouble for people. Just put a pinion as for who's actually representing the supermarkets. They've got high ranking people who are based in Queensland
that are turning up in front of it. The supermarket giants have elected to cends and your staff with government and industry relations people, the head of Public Affairs that were there on the behalf of Coles, the Chief Commercial Officer and the Queensland direction Director of Woolies were the ones that were sitting down. So there were people that were willing to cop the tongue lashing, but it's not
as sexy as yelling at the CEOs. But interestingly, another person who was on the inquiry today is the shadow Agriculture minister. The shadow Agriculture Minister is Tony Perodi. Had to double check his name and he was there asking question, but he was booted out of the inquiry that Stephen Miles is sitting on as well. That's dominated by the Labor Party in the Lower House. And it is again a show trial because he tried to introduce a photo today. Before I show you the photo, he was told he
wasn't allowed to do it. That was therefore ruled disorderly. Therefore he was booted out of the room. You cannot ask any more questions for at least sixty minutes. Why because the photo was this photo, the photo of the bloke who said what about Coles. This photo is not from five years ago and from five weeks ago. It's barely from five days ago. This was when he was at Beef Week last week in Rockhampton and he's cooking up a storm with a bunch of school kids. Had
an event sponsored by carls Now for food safety. Maybe he had that wear the hat. Perhaps he could have turned it around though, So can you believe that the show trial is so thin in its political objections at objectives that someone trying to introduce a photo that kind of contradicts the I Hate Coles of Stephen Miles is booted out of the committee for a full hour. Oh yeah,
they're committed to the big issues, aren't they, the Miles government. Now, whether you go to Cole's, Woolli's aldi IgA or whatever corner store, can you do me a favor? And I did say this four years ago, but I'm going to say it again now, even though the cost of that item probably is more than it was four years ago. Can you get some disinfectant because we're going to need it after we get rid of this mob towards the end of the year. In Queensland, it's up to you, Queensland.
I made the case before, it didn't work, but I reckon the case is going to land, and land hard in the form of Queenslanders with a size nine into the backside of this bloke and all of the other
fools that are with him. Youth crime in Queensland and everywhere else in the country is quite a substantial issue, one that, of course politicians aren't particularly interested in dealing with because we have despite the fact that there's so many teenagers involved in all sorts of things right literally from terrorism stuff in New South Wales and of course in Western Australia, all the way through to the car
thefts in regional Australia. But of course there is a big move on not to get rid of youth crime. But the idea is that we shouldn't call it a crime anymore if a person is of a certain age. Now, for years in Australia, the age of criminal responsibility has been ten. Anything under you can't go before anything, you
will not be punished. But a magical way of making the number of young people who get locked up for the crimes they commit, not falsely accused they commit, means that we should move the number from ten to twelve, and in some states move it up to fourteen. So the crime still happen, we just won't hold anyone responsible for it. And well meaning organizations have websites and campaigns to raise the a and in Victoria they are starting to make these changes where right now the age of
criminal responsibility is in is twelve. It'll move up to fourteen by twenty twenty seven. And as you can see the same will happen next year in the Act. Now there's a lot of pressure on every other state government, but they're not bending at this moment in time. But I want to talk an event that took place in the beautiful city of Dubbo over the weekend. I love Dubbo, been there plenty of times we did in ourtown there. We were there for royal tours. This is a beautiful
part of Australia. Shout out to everyone who's watching us right now. In Dubbo. And on the weekend they had their big show, the Big Agricultural Show, one of the big moments in town. All the usual things from animal events to craft events, you know, like the Easter show where the Echo or the Melbourne Show. But of course this one is for the local area in and around Dubbo. Well, a horrible crime is alleged to a taken place there with a sixteen year old had a knife held to
his throat. Apparently this was all in part of a robbery. Now that matter again we'll be dealt with by the courts. But something that was found out within two hours of that particular incident was that there was a stabbing list that had been put together by an eleven year old and a twelve year old of people that they were
apparently thinking about going after. The boys aged eleven and twelve, handed themselves into police on Saturday, and they admitted to committing the hoax list they now call of the twenty twenty four stab Now, I wanted to put this in context. If they had putten that stab list together in Victoria or the Act, the eleven year old would have no responsibility.
By next year. In the Act, both of them would not be punished for even committing the stabbing, let alone the hoax list of the people to potentially be stabbed. That is the consequences when people say we must change the age of responsibility because too many people, and particularly
Indigenous kids, end up in court. Now, while that may well be the case that there are too many Indigenous kids that end up in court, and I don't know what the cultural heritage is of anyone involved in what happened at the Double Show over the weekend, the reality is that we would like to live in a society where if you draw up a list of people you're going to stab, let alone, if they went on to
stab that, the person would be held criminally responsible. But right now, if it happened in or Sorry, in the next couple of years, if it happened in Victoria, happened in the Act, nothing would happen. Does anyone honestly think that that is a reasonable system? I don't big news today when it comes to breast cancer. There was a very interestingnnouncement which came out and was put up in the Financial Review who focused on this today, that there may well be a system that would be able to
reduce the risk of breast cancer by fifty percent. Now this is huge news because breast cancer kills thousands of women, a few blokes as well, but mainly of course women, each and every year. It may well be the reason why this Mother's Day Mum was no longer around. So I were very interested in this story and it says that while the scientists sound, it's not widely known that anti hormone drugs can apparently reduce the risk of breast cancer.
In twenty thirteen, a Professor Phillips began working on a new system at the Peter McCallum Cancer Center in Melbourne. It is now functioning and open to women across Australia. Now there is a website that I would like to give you, and I would like the women of Australia to go and fill out the survey. Now again, I know only what I've read here on the in the articles, but the website and I'll find the exact website detail
for you in a moment or two. Is time. I thought we're going to show that, but that is in fact the front page of it. Well, this is an opportunity for the women of Australia to reach out and potentially be able to reduce their risk of breast cancer. If that can happen by fifty percent, then we are going to be living in a much better country with much healthier people, and all of us would be united in how important that particularly would be going into the future.
It is Petermack or one word, Petermack dot org Ford slash I prevent Petermack dot org Ford slash I prevent. I make sure that the details are up on our socials. But I apologize. I wanted to tell it, not just show it, but that is what is in fact in front. In the next hour or so, Donald Trumpell headed back to court for yet another week in the WHO knew what and when about the document's case in and around the hush money payments that made its way to Stormy Daniels.
This week's the biggest week yet because Michael Cohen, the former lawyer of the bloke who was being paid in the installments, well, he will be testifying about whether those installments were knowingly a way of falsifying documents or the defense will be able to poke many holes in a bloke who has gone to jail for lying in the past, that being Michael Cohen. But as I told you last night, there was a rally with almost one hundred thousand people
in New Jersey. Now, this is a state that is a hard blue state that Republicans are not going to win. But if people were willing to turn up or travel, that's a good thing for Donald Trump. But even those of us that support Trump would love him to beat Biden are a little confused why he said this when he was talking about how the world is emptying their mental asylums and sending those people to become supposed refugees in America. Sailance of the lamb?
Has anyone ever said a silence of the lamp? The late Great Hannibal letter. He is a wonderful man. He oftentimes would have a friend for dinner. Remember the last excuse me, I'm about to have a friend for dinner?
Is this, poor doctor, I'm.
About to have a friend for dinner. But Hannibal Elector, congratulations, the late Great Hannibal Elector. We have people that are being released into our country that we don't runt in our country.
The late Great Hannibal Lector, who clearly doesn't exist, never existed, but apparently as an example of the mental asylums that have been I don't want Biden to win. I support the idea of Trump returning to the presidency, but he might have to do slightly better than that. But I get it there's a lot in his mind right now,
especially this week. You'll get all the details tomorrow morning with Peter stephanovickin first edition Quick Break Back, with more lots of talk about including for Regional Australia and everyone else who remembers when the Gillard government watched four Corners one night and then just stopped the live export industry. Well, this mob in Canberra, still living in the same bubble, still trying to double down, and the bad decisions of the past day are going to get rid of live export.
What's it going to mean? We'll talk about it next here on Paul Morray Life. I'm excited. We've got Sam Crosby with us in the man Cave and he is going to defend everything his government's ever done, ever will
do absolutely speakable. Well, you might have fun here because Senator mac Canavan of course is here as well, joining us from Camber and the lead up to the budget and the great Matt Cunningham stand up one of our favorites, the best in the business in the territory, and I think i'd put him in top five in the country for journos. Mate, I'm sorry to put that weight in your saddle bag, but I love you and I think you're one of the best in the business, not just
here at Sky All right, pleasantry is over. So last week we had the Prime Minister with the sort of Seemi new hat walking around Beef week in Rockhampton. I'm a friend of the farmer. Tyde loves beef. I'll eventually get to a good impersonation, but you get the point. Did you know that you grew up in a housing
commut was a terrible story, terrible story. Anyway, he's running around with the farmers right pretending I'm a friend of the farmer, and he waits until a few days later and assuming that the farmers are so stupid that they don't have access to the internets or television or radio, and they will completely be okay that the same bloke who pretends is the friend of the farmer at Beefweak is now going to ban live exports. Now. He was around the cabinet table when it made its overnight decision
after watching Four Corners back in twenty ten. And as we know labor, it always goes back to the same bad idea. They've just come up with a different way of doing it now, Senator. The claim is that this is going to be okay because we're not just turn it off tomorrow. We're doing it over a whole bunch of years, which means that currently the cattle farmers of Northern Australia will be able to just slowly but surely turning themselves into wind farms and that'll be okay.
Well, while Paul, this's decision just at this stage affects those sheep farmers that are exposed to the live sheep industry. The concern is of course that the animal activists, animal welfare activists won't stop as sheep, they'll move on to cattle. But it is a cowardly move by this governor. As you said, the promise was there in Rockhampton last week at Beef Week, at a collection of farms and grazies
who were very interested in this decision. A lot of people talking about it because as I say, they are very concerned about the flow and effects of the cattle industry. And I'm sure we'll find out perhaps true estimates and estimates when this decision was made, and I'm sure it probably was made before the promist was there, so he knew he had it in his back pocket, but he was just cowardy.
Is gutless, there's no other word for it.
It's gutless not to tell them upfront while he was with them, as you say, wearing the big hat.
And then he scurried away and they.
Dropped this announcement out over the weekend just ahead of the budget, hoping the budget swamps it all. But thousands of jobs now in West Australia on the line. The w Premier, the labor WA Premier, objects to Labour's policy.
This is going to cruel a whole industry.
And why do we need to shut down a whole industry when if we want to tackle inflation we have to become more productive.
We have to invest in parts.
Of our economy that are making things that are making money for our country, that are producing jobs and as enormous demand for our high quality live sheep. They've got an excellent animal welfare record where you know, there's been a few contraventions, but they've been fixed excellent in the last few years.
There's no reason to do this.
The only reason Labor Party's doing this is because they need the preferences of the animal welfare parties. So this is about protecting the jobs of Labor Party and they're going to sacrifice thousands of jobs in Western Australia to do it.
Sam, I'll get you in a second. But Matt, you remember, you lived it. You reported it right when it was about cattle and it was the Northern Territory. About what those consequences were. I'm completely aware that it's about sheep, and it's more so specifically in and around Western Australia where there's going to be particular issues. But you've seen
this play out before. But if they say it's just a little more notice and a little more time, then it will all end up being Okay, what's your sense of.
It, it's already having a massive end.
I think there, I'm going to call you, Senator and Matt, Matt, Matt, you're turning down.
He's going to be a sader.
I don't think there was a more I don't think there was a more devastating decision that a government made that impacted the Northern Territory than this one. And people are still talking about it today, some thirteen years on. Pool In fact, a lot of the people who were affected by the Gillard government's band on live exports are still waiting for this government to agree to the settlement of the class action that has been running now for
more than a decade. But I think the bigger concern here is that now that live cheap exports the government's
committed to banning them, that live cattle is next. And you get an indication of what's coming from a tweet today from the TLMP Kylieh Tink, who congratulates the government for doing this, says it's something that people of North Sydney have been calling for since before the election, and then goes on to say it's disappointing though that we have to wait four years and there's still no plan
to end live beef cattle exports. That tweet will send a shiver down the spine of every live catle ex order in the Northern Territory, and the prospect of the Albanese government going into minority government at the next election will absolutely scare the living daylights out of them, because it was in twenty eleven when the Gillard government was relying on the Greens and Independence to stay in power that they made that original decision. And God only knows.
People will be thinking here, what happens if there is a minority government supported by the Greens and the Tills come twenty twenty five, what will happen to live Experts from the Northern Territory.
Agree animal welfare and the politics of it again, many people elected two parliaments exclusively on animal welfare. But by doing it over a long period of time it may well taper, but it doesn't change the financial pain for the people whose life is completely linked.
No, if you do it well, it won't have much pain. At all, because you're going to process the meat in Australia. That's the whole idea. Right, you give them four years and I'm sure that four years then becomes full or.
Vice already suffering.
But the idea is that you process the meat here in Australia, and I'm all in favor of it.
Indonesia they will kill the cattle live. The halal killing means they don't want it boxed here.
Sure, but you can do halal here. You can do halal here. Hallal is pretty easy, right. You use a knife for whatever you've done the thing. You use a knife, you say a prayer, you face at East Order. It's pretty easy to do to get halal certification wherever.
Right.
But the point is you can do it here in Australia, and that means jobs. If you go to Konne banner Brandt, which is a little town out in Yep, they had they had an abati get closed down there, I don't know, twenty ten, twenty twelve, something like that, and it decimated the town, decimated of the town. And these are the little sort of towns that we're talking about. If you can build an abati there that employs forty fifty people.
They're good jobs, they're permanent jobs. Why wouldn't we be in favor of that, And yeah, okay, the animal right issues, it's.
Just demonstrate so why not.
This just demonstrates, This demonstrates why the Labor Party are so hopeless of business. The customer wants the live sheet, that's what they want. In the Middle East, they want them for religious reasons. They want them because they don't have as much refrigeration as we do. So the box beef is not going to do the box sheep, I should say, it's not going to do them any good she box sheep meat. And so already sam these countries
in the Middle East are going to South America. They can get the sheep elsewhere, they can go elsewhere, they don't need us, and they're already doing that. And so if you knew anything about the sheep industry right now, you know it's on his knees because BEF well before the government shut the date in twenty twenty eight, the market's already shifting and sheep price is now at record lows. Grazes are having to shoot their flocks. It's terrible, it's
very sad. It's having a flow on effect. I spoke to grazes at Beef Weeak last week. Some of them are in beef and sheep and it's already having a flow on effect to sheep prices in Eastern markets, just as the live cattle band did. This is a complete and after disas so there won't be those jobs there in the avatars because the customer doesn't want them. And if you're in business, Sam, if you're successful in business,
you've got to meet the customer demand. And there's no reason we can't do that with strong animal welfare standards as we've been doing in a live sheep band. This is a political ban, not one on any kind of science.
All right, let's get to again Matt in Darwin. So we're being very clear with everyone here, Senators, future senators, whatever, we're all here, No, no appreciate it. So, Matt, you've obviously seen federal politics through the lens of the Northern Territory for a long period of time and you know that budget night is this big carry on and then you've got to find you know what's in it for the Northern Territory often not much? But what do you think about the pregame here where the pregame is all,
they're going to do something about costly. I'll tell you what. The rabbit that he's going to have to pull out of the hat is going to be taller than Sam. And tall is Sam. He's a very statuesque gentleman, Okay, but there is no rabbit the size of Sam that a treasure is going to be able to pull out of a hat. So has this government already kind of spun itself into a corner of expectations?
Well, he's talking of a big game, is he, And I think it's pretty brave. Bab's admirable. I don't know, we'll see whether I guess time will tell, but he's pretty brave saying that, you know, we're going to have an inflation back between two and three percent by Christmas, because I'm not sure how many levers the government can actually pull to make this happen, And the only ones that I think they're able to pull and they're going to pull in the budget would perhaps, you know, cause
inflation to rise rather than come down. So you know, i'd be backing Michelle Bullock over Jim Charmers when it comes to where inflation is going to be come December. I mean, I've seen you go through the pomp and ceremony that surrounds the budget and to be fair at some level to the Treasurer and the Prime Minister, it is the media that insists that the politicians show.
Up for these.
Most of them would rather not be.
But it never looks good for anyone really.
Okay, bring back the awkward grab team. All right, come on, James, go find it. We're going to play it again, because it's a little bit like, you know, what's the babaduk or something. As soon as you mention it, it must appear. So if I say it three times, was that I never forget. But still what we're talking about here, the super awkward wonderful moment when they're sort of posing for the cameras. They don't just go so they have to sort of say things to each other and it's so awkward.
It's so bad, and I love playing it. I love playing it. Play it against that's.
A that's a great project. It's cost of living support whilst also having that eye on the economy of.
The future.
And a great budget for women. All those decisions we talk on women's safety, hoousing, the care economy and all these really important ones around driving economic equality for women.
I hope we should be really proud of it now. It's ambitious that it's responsible at the same time. Now it's got a lot of help for a lot of people, but also some investment in the future, and so I think the whole team can be really proud of it.
Decisions we make today can set us up for the next decade and beyond.
I love it. I love it. I love it, Senator. As you said, you've had to go through that ritual. I know it's awkward, but who cares if they feel a little bit of pain as opposed to the people who actually pay for the budget? Fine by me, baby, Well.
I normally just talk about other things.
I mean, that was so awkward because they're not going to play those grabs anyway, So you start talking about the footy.
Or yeah that what do you do on the weekend? You have for dinner last night? Yeah, it's something a bit more natural. I was painful. That was very fake.
I love it. And you know what I particularly love is there'll be someone somewhere inside the POULLANX who's job it is to hate watch this program. You know is opposition research. Enjoy your pain because I will do it every year every time. It's awful. Anyway, about the actual budget stamp, they are setting expectations. Yeah, they set expectations so they have to come up with something. And I think that it's impossible for any government to come up
with the solution to all the world's problems. But that's how they're marketing it.
Look, maybe there's a problem with their spin.
I don't know.
Let's talk about the actual substance and to your point of cost of living inflation is the single biggest problem because that leads to interest rates. And I saw your primo beforehand, and yep, there's a disagreement between the Treasury and it's called an editorial. The editorial between the Treasury and the the RBA. Can we all cast our minds back to but they're both wrong all the time. But
this is the point. This is the point. The previous governor was on there saying, oh, we're going to have historic lows until twenty twenty four, and then three months later, three months lady was jacking him up a point.
At the time this treasurers sacked that person reports them. It shows us the hand tick one, and so just say we're all clear.
It's not actually Jim Charmers sitting down there on his little typewriter writing the budget and doing his advocates calculations. He's got a guy called doctor Stephen Kenny, who's the head of Treasury. By the way, as much as the Prime innis sure that is twice, this guy's got PhDs in economics and all sorts of things like they get it wrong every sure, But these are teams as these are teams of boffins going at it, with the spokesperson of the Treasurer and the Reserve Bank governor being the
two heads of these things. So it's not as though doctor Jim's up there saying, oh, well, I reckon it's going to be and I reckon.
These are a bunch of assumptions. So he's just the front hand of the band singing somebody else's song.
No, No, the assumptions are based on mountains of economic data. And it's absolutely reasonable to question an institution that gets the numbers up, numbers, your made up numbers. It's reasonable to have a discussion about him numbers right, who's numbers wrong?
I'm going to take a break here, so maybe you're pick it up after but Senator, you've got fifteen seconds if you want to bang back on it.
Okay, what does he get quickly? I like him.
It's the government, it's the government's it's the government's figures. They are informed by Treasury, but ultimately they're signed off by the government by the treasure.
I like him, I love you all, but he gets the final say host does as well. Quick break back when more including this photo of Steven Miles. Okay, jump onto the socials and I would love you to be able to put a caption underneath this idiot, the bloke who hates Carle's this week, but he was wearing their merch last week. More on a set. Good news if you live in Parks or anywhere near it, because our town is coming to your part of Australia at the end of this month. I cannot wait to turn up
to play with the dish. I've got the Prime Minister's approval. No anyway, we'll be there looking forward to it. If you want to join us Parks for our town on Sunday, the twenty sixth of May, please send me an email to Ourtown at skynews dot com dot Au. We're here with Matt Cunningham who is in Darwin, Senator Matt Canavan who is in Canberra, and Senator not Matt, Sam Crosby, who was here of course in the man Cave. Now.
I don't know whether it's the Ponds Institute or it's something a little bit more serious, but the Population Research Institute put out at the end of last week about whether people have a sense of belonging in Australia. There's been a couple of thousand people. Part of the surveys are not insignificant. What was shocking to read though, was this the people who were between the age of eight seen in twenty nine in Sydney, only fifteen percent of
them have a sense of belonging. Twenty two percent have a sense of belonging in Melbourne, twenty two percent having a sense of belonging in Brisbane. Matt, we always talk on some level about problems with kids all the rest of it here, but what the hell is going on when we are talking about people who don't have a sense of belonging, who are in the absolute prime of their life in this country. What does that tell you? Well?
I think it might be a few things. I mean, I.
Sorry, I said that I mucked it up, Senator, Senator, I'll get this right to show for fifteen years.
But the thing is over the years, if we mixed up hand, Yeah, we should never do this. It's like you get me mixed up all the time. Now I get myself.
Mixed up that I've been that. That took me three years, but which is not a bad thing.
He's a great bloke, break this fantastics say, a fantastic journalist, great company anyway, So I think it's my turn. But I think you know that the education system has to be a culprit here. I just don't think our schools are instilling pride in our country as perhaps they once were, and you're gettingto obvious result.
Look.
I would also say, though, that our broader society and economy is failing young people as well, and so that's got to be playing a part too. The most important thing I think we could do to help people have more pride in their own country is to help them own a piece of it. If you own some of the land and the real estate of a nation, you're more likely to want to protect it and defend it and have a stake in it, literally have a staken it.
And that's obviously becoming harder and harder for people because it's just they're just priced out.
And that's why I come back to it. I think we've got to build new cities.
We've got to build new areas of our country like Darwin and others where people can get a start. Just can't stack people continually stack people up in Ceey in Melbourne. Expect young people again to have the same opportunities as their grandfathers.
All right, So, as I mentioned before, Donald Trump, he's, you know, got to stretch the wing. One hundred thousand people turning up in New Jersey, if you're pro Biden, that's a bit of a worry because it's a massive sign of something going on, or they were turning up for the fun, or they were willing to travel to back the great man in And for some reason he used as an example of somebody being dumped from mental institutions into America, a person that doesn't exist.
Silence of the lamb. Has anyone ever seen the silence of the lynch? The late Great Hannibal Elector, he's a wonderful man. He oftentimes would have a friend for dinner.
Remember the last scene. Excuse me, I'm about to have a friend for dinner. Is this, poor doctor, I'm.
About to have a friend for dinner. But Hannibal Elector, congratulations, the late Great Hannibal Elector.
We have people, matt In Darwin, the late Great Hannibal Elector. Like I love I love me some Trump and I love me some wild Trump. But you can't you can't pretend Hannibal Lector is crossing the border.
Well and are late great?
I mean, I don't know like this.
Trump just baffles me a lot of the time. And you know this case in point as well. I don't know what the hell he is talking about.
And I don't know why.
He is praising Hannibal lect there as late and great. But I don't understand a lot of things that come out of his mouth. And yet I still think there's going to be a hell of a lot of people who are going to vote for him.
Lady this year.
So that's the thing I tirk it out.
I think it just shows you the state that US politics is in.
At the moment. Really, give me the bumper sticker version his Sam that's the guy who's currently beating your guy.
Sure, and look everyone, everyone gets that Joe Biden is well and truly past his prime, and he is old as hell. Right, this blokes a couple of years behind him. Clearly there is cognitive decline there. You'll remember the you know, the cognitive decline test that he did the man woman TV window And I said that, right, man woman TV window. You know he's clearly losing his marbles.
Can't Sam. He's the funniest guy around.
He wasn't joking, Buddy is so funny?
All right, gang me.
Comedy is comedy is dead, but Donald Trump is saving stand up comedy single hand.
Yeah, l I think Tony Chliff is as well. All right, thanks guys. We'll talk to you again very soon, but different mats on different nights. But you can all come back any time you want, right, quick break back with more what you say about Stephen Miles Nick, I've talked too long tonight, so I signed for the late debate. But I will tell you there's an awful lot of
very funny people. The best caption that I think so far explains the Stephen Miles thing comes from Andrew says, he's going down down, just like the prices used to here's the late debate