From the Sky New Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
I mate, come into the man Cave because we have got a big one for you tonight. It'll be bursting with debate and great guests tonight.
Housing and who will be able to afford it.
Into the future be issue in coming into the election, but a bit of false hope being offered by the federal government.
Today.
I'll explain why another probe decades on is going to have a look at everything to do with JFK, and one of the people in charge of it says there was probably another shooter. And the great Megan Kelly joins us from the United States fresh from going to the Super Bowl with Donald Trump, and.
He was in a great mood. He was super happy. Even then he was very focused on the fact that Taylor got mood.
Are you happy that you got?
But first, I am going to start where everyone else has apologies for the repetition here, but how can we not how can we not talk about the racism and the racism of those.
People that work in the health service.
Now, I agree with everything that's been said by all of my colleagues, so I know you've heard it fourteen times, so I'm not going to go over it, but I agree with what's been said. This stuff is an absolute disgrace. They can say it's a joke, they can say that they're sorry, but the reality is that the behavior is absolutely appalling. The behavior of the female nurse's family no better today when the media came knocking.
Broke.
Now, I'm on, you know, what do you have to say about the allegation? Tell me, excuse me walking towards the faith.
Mate, mate, mate to me, all right, all right, okay, I need my phone back.
What has happened.
I don't understand what's happened. I haven't been able to talk to us. She's in a freaking extreme panic attack at the prison time. I'm trying to calm it down, to see what She's been a nurse for God knows how long, She's never done anything to hurt anyone.
Whatever, whatever. What was said on that video is clearly unforgivable, clearly a new low. But I wanted to take this to a bigger conversation, a more dangerous conversation, but one that I'm going to have anyway. Why wouldn't these two people think that they were going to get away with it? When what was the response to people marching on the
Sydney Opera House, Well, nothing, no arrests. Instead, of course, the great effort was not into what was happening, but instead what you may or may not have heard police openly admitting that they were being overwhelmed with numbers as opposed to responding to numbers. We have failed to hold to account the people when it comes to stupid protests. We have failed to hold to account the people who have spoken words of hate. And this is yes, since October seven, twenty twenty three, but it's.
Deeper and it's longer.
We also failed to hold anyone to serious account when they are waving around flags of foreign nations and they are seemingly more fired up about what's happening somewhere else than what should be.
Social cohesion here. But let's be really clear.
Australia has a very large, extended hand to anyone from anywhere in the world to come and join us. But where we have failed, and I mean governments and institutions and societies, is that we have, out of some sort of sensitivity, allowed to breed a sense of entitlement in people that they would feel like they can say what
they said on that video. Now, interestingly and amazingly, not a single significant Islamic group in Australia has come out to condemn what has been said, to say that a patient in a hospital could die or receive adverse care that would kill them if they were Jewish, if they were Israeli.
Now we know.
That the failure to do so only causes bigger problems in the community. Now, this is not a moment, and I will not accept any dog whistle that there needs to be some sort of response to this other than
what happens at the official level. We have made too many mistakes for too long, and the greatest sign of those mistakes is that the children of people who have come to this country, who have extended the peace of this nation, are often the loudest ones on the streets or online saying the dumbest and most evil of things.
I do not care of what God you believe in or don't.
I do not care where your family is from and what happened in a former life. I do not care if you are someone who was born here and seeks to play out historic rights and wrongs on the streets of this country.
It is unacceptable.
But the stern words of politicians today are too little, too late. How have citizens gone through the daycare system, the primary school system, the high school, tafe, university.
Or our workplaces.
And come out the end of that process feeling emboldened to say what has been said.
Now?
I like that the Nisa Whals government has got one heck of a swagger about it and loves pointing a finger and has taken seemingly quick action here.
But let's not let them off the hook.
How many of the anti Semitic attacks have taken place in New South Wales in the term of this government. What have they done to change the education systems? What have they done to put pride in this nation at front and center of the Australian story. I am sick and tired of people pretending that the symptom is what
needs to be dealt with, not the problem. For those that are half paying attention, looking forward to run off to an umpire somewhere or when this will be inevitably taken out of context by people on the internet or those who hate this broadcast. I am very happy for people to come from anywhere in the world and believe
in whatever they believe in. But but regardless of whether your arrival was generations ago or was a couple of weeks ago, this joint first, and this joint first means that somebody with a yamaka or a hijab should be able to walk the same side of the street without disputation. I have had enough of it. But the problem is is that there is no solution that is possible when much of the problem is the second generation our fellow Australians.
Much needs to change, and we have seen that when a culture wants to change and change very quickly, it decides what is appropriate and not appropriate. Anyone who works in any office of any size spends more time on training about what to say and not to say at work than we do on fire drills, and good because
it means people learn how to get along. That message is failing and I want politicians who do not just stand up for the twelve hours when everyone is yelling, but are committed to it twenty four hours a day and seven days a week, that regardless of the makeup of our community, it is united around one purpose, which is one citizen is not more important than another one, that all citizens must take care of each other and any weakening of that fabric must be dealt with in
the harshest possible terms. But you watch where this goes in the next twenty four hours. I guarantee there will be discussion amongst many parts of the left wing media who will try to focus on not what was said, but what else was said on the video, What happened a minute before, what happened a minute after?
Where did it come from?
No.
No, In the same way that you react to the family members who go after the reporters standing on a public street asking questions, the same should be about this story. I have no doubt that in a week's time there'll be a whole bunch of people wanting to go back.
To their corners.
But can we use this moment of division to unite, to unite about right and wrong and a ram that message home to the people who have never learned it, to the people who have forgotten it, or of those of us who wish to restate it every day.
Of the wider issue in and around.
Anti Semitism and how it has got so wildly out of control in the past couple of years. You know, we've got a forum coming up, not this week, but next week here on Sky News. If you have suggestions, please write an email to Shari and her team who are putting this thing together. It is some at skynews dot com. It'll be on the television Thursday, the February the twentieth.
Here on Sky News.
All right, back to the politics of what we need to talk about today. Jim Chalmers, Anthony Abernezi desperately trying to pull together the next budget if it is to be delivered before the election, but certainly looking at forty forty budget deficits in a row for the next couple of generations. They know that they're promised to make everything better,
which made everything worse has failed. And they know that there are a young voters in particular who are starting to drift towards the Greens and will send their preferences to Labor as opposed to the other way around. You see, Labor loves the idea of the Greens being able to hoover up the preferences of the ride on crowd. It's just they can get no more votes in the Labor Party because then the Labor Party becomes the preference siphon
for the Greens. Well, you may will have heard today about Jim Charmers running around and playing to headlines like this that Jim Charmers is going to make it easier for people to buy a home, particularly as a way of winning over young voters to make sure they vote Labor not Green.
Now.
I have said it many times before and well before this election year, that there are people that are willing to vote for parties they have never voted before if they think that they are going to create a better scenario so their kids and grandkids can buy a house. But as always, the devil is in the detail, and I don't think there's going to be that many people that will be advantaged by the new changes which have been announced today. Explained here by an supporter from Channel nine.
Australia's financial regulators OPRAH and ASSEK have both agreed to adjust the rules that means banks will no longer need to consider university debt repayments if they believe the potential
buyer can pay it off. According to mortgage broker Pure Finance, if you're earning one hundred thousand dollars, you can borrow up to six hundred and eight thousand, But if you have a student debt, you'd be paying off at least five five hundred dollars a year, and that reduces your borrowing power by nearly seventy thousand dollars.
Now important to note there the one hundred thousand dollars earning university student. Now, it is going to take a very long time for most people who leave university to actually start earning one hundred thousand dollars. So think of, firstly the total number of people with university debt in Australia. Small number, not insigniving, but a small number. Then think about the number who'll be earning one hundred thousand dollars
even smaller. Then think about the people who, after earning between fifty and one hundred thousand dollars, maybill have already paid off their hexstead. It's an even smaller slice, but it's a big enough slice for the banking organizations to say, Okay, you're the government, it's not really that much money, it's not many that many customers, so we'll go along.
With you here.
But let's actually have a look at the reality of the property market in Australia when it comes to the
houses that are available right now. Data available towards the end of last year that has not been updated tells us that the median house price for the person who would get a six hundred and eight thousand dollars loan for their one hundred thousand dollars, or if they are still being charged the hex stuff five hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars, Well, it wouldn't touch the size you can buy a house even a third of one in Sydney, half of one in Melbourne, or a little over half
of one in Brisbane. A little better in other capitals. But these are the three main places of population. What about a unit? They wouldn't be able to afford one in Sydney, they might be able to squeeze one out in Melbourne, and it'll be very.
Lineball in bruce Ban.
So exactly how many people are we talking about here who are going to be earning one hundred thousand dollars and how much will they be able to maximum be able to borrow? And how does that match up with the numbers that I've just shown you.
Banks will no longer need to consider university debt repayments if they believe the potential buyer can pay it off.
Four fifths Bugger all Now, yes, anything that moves the ball one inch further down the field is a win. But let's not pretend that this is the solution to the problem. It is a government trying to say it has a solution to the problem.
Oh yeah.
And as for the rest of the almost half of the country that is trying to pay a house off that either they live in or it is an investment property with a mortgage, we learn today about home loan
sizes that have now hidden new records in Australia. The average homeland in Australia is now six hundred and sixty six thousand dollars in New South Whilst it's eight hundred and eleven thousand dollars, and Victoria six hundred and thirty two thousand dollars and in Queensland six hundred and thirty five thousand dollars.
Which brings me back to what way too.
Many people in an OsO compliant press gallery think is going to be the get out of jail free card for Jim Charmers and Anthony Albanesi, which would be fingers crossed a hopeful drop in interest rates, hopefully one next week and potentially won during the federal election campaign, But with the average home loan in the country being six hundred and sixty six thousand dollars or new so whilst eight hundred and eleven thousand dollars, the actual truth of how much more you have had to find to pay
off your mortgage since these people became the government is as follows. An extra fifteen one thousand dollars if you borrowed four hundred thousand dollars, twenty two thousand dollars if you borrowed six hundred thousand dollars, twenty nine thousand dollars if you borrowed for the average joint and the average
mortgage in New South Wales even higher. If you're going a million dollar loan under this government, on top of what you were already paying, you've had to find thirty seven and a half thousand dollars more.
To pay off your loan.
And if you've got a very big loan, because presumably you've got big money coming in, you've had even bigger money going out, somewhere between fourteen and forty four thousand
dollars extra. And yes, if there is an interesstrate rise, there may well be a grand one hundred and fifty dollars reduction in your monthly repayments if anyone thinks that the Australian people will just forgive and forget a government that has presided over those numbers times two years, because that's how long it's been back of course into the latter part of twenty twenty two, the early part of
twenty twenty three, when rates hit their high point. So all of those numbers I just showed you double them, And that's how much extra since this mob came to power. Good luck, good luck telling everyone that we've turned the corner and everything's okay. They have already had to spend, for some people close to half or maybe even more of a year's wages to try to desperately keep a roof over their head because fingers crossed, eventually the joint will be worth more than what they paid for it.
They pay property coplunk and what's left over that pays for their retirement.
Place.
Big deal in the Federal Parliament that I want to talk about here, which is, as you know, the House of Reps and the Senate dominated by the two parties, and they love to get together to always help out themselves. Of course, it's a completely independent tribunal that regardless of whether you are labor liberal, one Nation green or even Lydia Thorpe or a Tiffany Teal, you have got not one,
but three pay rises since the last election. As I showed you, federal government ministers earning four hundred thousand dollars sneering at the idea of a small business being able to use the same tax breaks the big business does to take a client to the pub for a schnitzel. These are the people who always fly at the front of the plane whenever they wish floating fares. That means they can cancel and just get another one a little
bit later. The people with staff who film them. And I don't know about you, but I'm sick of the politicians who try to create themselves like some of social media influences. Well, under this government they've got an extra staffer, an extra staffer to help burnish they're online reputations.
Well, a deal has been.
Done about how elections will be paid for the detail I have been speaking about for some time, and I can't stand when they.
Do this stuff.
But they do it because it's self serving. You will be able to give not twenty, but fifty thousand dollars. You will be able to give under five thousand dollars before anyone knows that you have been giving a particular candidate money.
All of that unbelievable.
There will be a spending limit per electorate of eight hundred thousand dollars. Ninety million dollars is the most that can be spent by a political entity during an election campaign. But don't forget there are the independent organizations who also are able to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on
top of the political parties that they work with. So literally, the dozens and dozens of unions will also be able to spend hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, whereas the Liberal Party, the Greens, One Nation, or your community independent will be outspent what four, five, six, ten to one. But nothing to see here. But the true outrage is the money that they will get from us, the taxpayer, as a result of the electoral process. Now, in this
country we have compulsory voting. You are fined if you do not get your name marked off the role. And yes, there is a very very very small number of people who will get their name marked off but not vote. But let's be honest, you turn up your vote. Previously, political candidates have been paid three dollars thirty five per vote that they receive. That is now about to increase to five dollars. Paul, Why blow your bonnet about what
a dollar in a bit? Because when you think about how many people are enrolled to vote in Australia, which is seventeen million, nine hundred and thirty nine thousand, eight hundred and eighteen people. That's when you think about how many people are on the electoral role. Guess what happens if every one of those people vote in a lower
House election. It means the Australian taxpayer will be paying political parties, independence and well minor parties thirty nine point six million dollars, meaning we pay for their election campaigns and then they find us if we choose to vote or not. But don't forget we don't just have one house of Parliament and this is where the five dollars a vote really kicks in. Seventeen point nine million people on the electoral role, House and Senate votes together seventy
nine point three million dollars. So the rules about truth and advertising they apply to the private sector, not to these people. We pay for their travel, their wage, their staff, their social media campaigns. They get three three pay rises under this mob. They get free tickets, they get free upgrades,
all the rest of it. And then we the taxpayer, through the AEC, hands that much money back to the political parties, meaning of course that they will seek fewer donations, meaning that just like in Victoria where this system was put in place, Queensland and Western Australia, it'll mean virtually no relationship with business. Meaning just as we have seen in the state of Victoria, you'll have more and more parties,
more and more governments that won't care about business. And remember, ninety seven percent of all business in Australia is small, with fewer than nineteen employees. Of that ninety seven percent, almost seventy percent are sole traders who represent them in
forthcoming elections. What I hate about our lurch to the left and those that have cheered it on, is the way that government is able to try to create a permanent majority for itself is that they want a triangle of dependence where either you need the government for the welfare handout, and any suggestion that that could be taken away is a reason to keep voting for the same party of government. Or they hire a football stadium more of public servants, which is a reason to keep voting
for the same government. Or even if you're in private business, your biggest client is the government and you don't want to piss them off. Meaning that those of us who live outside of that triangle were allowed, We're strong, but it won't be the majority of Australia. This is a bad deal one of course, that they will gladly sign off on, slap each other on the back, and then make.
Their way towards the exit doors for an.
Election that we will pay for and you get fined if you do not wish to participate.
Unbelievad Can I talk to Donald Trumpy for a moment or two?
Is time now, As you know, I've not got too deep into Trump tariffs and the panic in and around all of it, because when you talk to Donald Trump, as our Prime minister does, and you know, I'm no fan of albow, but he was on the phone for forty minutes. If we were going to get screwed, it would not would not have taken a phone call, let alone had one for forty minutes, so I think we're
going to get there. However, one of the key people in Trump's hereies his Trade Envoy and he is absolutely ripping Australia, suggesting that we have been screwing them over when it comes to aluminium. And all of this goes back to a meeting when Scott Morrison was the Prime Minister, which means bring on the Turnbull times to say all of this is Scott Morrison's fault. Well, firstly, if there's no country's getting an exemption it it doesn't matter what any
country was doing. And secondly, haven't we had a different government for now three years who would have been able to honor such an arrangement. But of course there's nothing to see here. It's all still the former government's fault. And when I was mentioning before JFK, there is a new oversight body which is about to be launched in the US House of Representatives, which is going to go after.
The big stuff.
It's going to go after JFK. What really happened Martin Luther King, what really happened all of this stuff? It's going to be a fascinating thing. In the next little while. They claim they've found more than forty thousand new files in and around the JFK assassination. And the person who is going to be leading it up well believes in the two shooter theory, which, of course, in my view, anyone with a brain would why because the magic bullet.
Is bears.
The initial hearing that was actually held here in Congress was actually faulty in the single bullet theory.
I believe that there were two shooters.
I love it, seriously.
Remember the Warren Commission, the report of the bullet ding Ding ding ding doesn't work like that, all right. It's the only conspiracy theory of openly wonder about. All right, quick break back with more looking forward to this. I want to wrap up nice and early with my stuff because ding dong. They are both in the man cave. Let's get into it. Brom and Bishop Stephen Conroy, Meghan Kelly, don't move. Don't move because I can see you don't move.
Thank you very much for watching wherever you happen to be. Stephen Conroy's already starting before even.
He produced him.
He's that excited to be this last to Rodman Vishop here in the man cave. Hello, Hello, and welcome back for this year.
I think we'll have plenty to agree on. One thing we are going to unify on and I don't want to spend too much time, and it only because it has been well established how Australia feels about these two people when it comes to the video, these nurses, and I had my say on top of what everyone else has said all night. But Bromwin, how can I not get to get your end Stephen's opinion on how oddly we have slid as a nation when people behave like this.
Well, when I saw that video, the anger that welled within me. I can hardly express to see that happen in my country to people we've invited into this country. To speak of that and then try and pass it off as a joke, I just feel ballistic. Those people have no right to remain registered nurses. They must never be allowed to work again. But there has to be a thorough investigation. Are there more of them? Are they part of the chatquib? How far has it gone already?
I've heard the new South Wales minister say he will do an investigation to see if any people who were Jewish actually died and go through the go through it properly. What do we get from alban easy wooly, weasily words in question time? I mean, this country has slid because no firm action was taken from the time of that demonstration on the steps of the Opera House, and it let the genie out of the bottle.
But to see that hatred spilling out of.
Those people's mouths who have been given so much by this country and have no respect for the culture in which they live, has to ask a whole lot of new questions about how we invite people to this country, how we look after our culture, and how we say this is a country and culture that won't tolerate that hate well.
And also do.
Those two have an association with that preacher who said he was elated and delighted at the massacre of the twelve hundred yees?
Of what I've read, are they attached?
All that needs to be known and not covered up, not weasel words. It all has to be.
Exposed because also it means something that's been clear today, Stephen, which is that the bloke apparently came here as an eleven year old. We don't know the full bio on the woman, whether she was born here or came with another family. But this is this not an insight into a fundamental failure of how open Australia has been, but how Australia has failed to be able to say that to a young person who comes here with all of its opportunities, that you don't that you end up behaving like that.
Look. I mean it is sicking that these people feel so emboldened. I think that's the really disturbing part, and they think they can actually proudly boast behave that way on camera, and it cost a lot of the points. I agree, not obviously with everything brom Win said, but with most of what Bromwin said. I think Ryan Parks has played a blinder today. It's credit for taking full on head on and saying not on my watch. So
congratulations to Ryan. So I am sickened, I'm disgusted, and it does raise questions of how we've allowed it to get to this point that people have got no gratitude being welcome to our country. The openness which we embrace and allow support freedom of religion, all religions where.
What you want, believe in what you do exactly.
However, you know that.
There's a point where you got you do not cross this line.
Yep.
And these two and others are wager they are way over this line, and they've got to be told on ambiguous terms. It's not accepted.
They've got to be prosecuted. In my view, Well, we've got enough legislation there. They need to be prosecuted.
All right. Let's talk about a hangover from the Victorian by elections, and an incredible detail we were just talking about before, which is they're going to wait. They have done no more counting, right, so we don't know what's happening in Werriby. Insteads multiple days and on Friday, I think, which is when the last of something may trickle through the letterbox. That's when they're going to do one last count. We might get some indication, if not result, on Friday.
But let's let's talk brass tax here. Stephen, you're a Victorian guy, you know Victorian politics, numbers and all the rest of it.
How much trouble is labor actually in Victoria.
I'll start with a state labor government. The premier come out, we've heard your message. She then said, I'm doubling down. She's shown some courage in talking about how we've got to deal with some crime, the bail issues that took a lot of courage. Now needs to show the same amount of courage and accept the message she's trying to sell to the western northern Melbourne suburbs is not resonating.
They don't want it. This suburban rail loop is not something that is a saleable political issue for communities where even the polling booth has to be delayed the count because the roof is leaking. Yeah, that just says, oh my god, what is going on here? You can't even do the count on the day because of the infrastructure Rundown.
I speak to a lot of the westerns of federal and state MPs and they are very upset about a focus on the SrAl and the Premier can pretend that that's not what's really going on, but the message is very cliche. Since you heard the message, well the messages you've got to change priorities correct and so at a state level, I'm not writing off the Victorian governments, but you've got to be more embracing and not just narrowly
focused on those suburbs federally. Federally, it puts in play a range of seats that should never be in play for Labor Party. The one saving grace out of a very bad weekend was that, you know, we dropped sixteen
points on primary. They lived barely pick up four percent, So that same sort of circumstances would still see us probably hold most of those seats that could be vulnerable, from the mckiwens in the north right round to the Hawk and a Lawler, but very worrying signs that brand Labor is being badly affected in Victoria.
So then, Bromman, how does the Liberal Party get itself to a position that between now when the federal election, if people have moved away from the Labor Party and the numbers in which we all seem that they don't go on the long road around that either one or two is for the alternative government. Because again just at all of our knowledge of how this works is that if there's a Melbourne cup field of anyone but a Liberal that's running, they all end up preferencing each other,
meaning the Liberals aren't going to go anywhere. Today, Clyde Palmer failed to be able to reregister the United Australia Party, which means one of two high profile national parties to the right which would have delivered preferences as they did in nineteen as they didn't in twenty two. Meaning there's a lot of work there when it comes to one nation because outside of that, no one's going to be preferencing the Libs.
Well, that's not necessarily so you can get some independents who are right wing candidates. Well, but I just have a memory of the nineteen ninety election Pork was riding high, Peacock was the leader, and Andrew Peacock won nine seats in Victoria, not one in New South Wales, not one, but nine in Victoria. So there are plenty of examples where things occur, where they change, And I think there is a momentum that has swung behind Peter Dutton. They
are looking for something else. Now he's got time to roll out whatever the pitch will be with the actual election. He's not going to do it prematurely, but you can bet the work's been going on.
But here's the thing that I wanted to talk to both of you about, which is traditionally the way an election will work is you thirty three day campaign month and a bit right.
The whole thing.
Generally crests weekend before at your party conference. That also means that's when you start paying for your travel, not the taxpayer. And then it all runs towards election day. How many state elections, how many federal elections half vote early meaning the actual election you have to cress halfway through the campaign, meaning if you're waiting till the day that the starts, gun goes off to fire off, your social media strategy, your radio ads, all the rest of it.
Guess what, it's not going to connect the way that it has in the past. So I've got to say I have a concern about both the government and the alternative government about what their message is going to be because they're playing one out in the news, but there's a whole bunch of people who don't watch the news, aren't connected to the news. Would your advice be to both of your sides start doing it now?
Start doing it now.
Because if it's between now and May, you want to carpet bomb ads that people will repeat back to you, not just do it for two weeks when we're distracted by footy or anything else.
Well, I've got to say there's I think some good precedents in how the voice was handled. Now there was a There was a build up that then allowed a statement to be made by Dutton, and then the roll out happened. I suggest there'll be a similar sort of strategy, but that.
Was a process of a month. We're now into week's Stephen in terms would.
Conceivably call it in three weeks time. Yeah, I mean, so he goes for in April twelve. He's calling it on March ten.
So KOs Samaras, who is with the Red Bridge. We talked to him every Sunday night. He says that the whole these are all the things that Dutton's voted against. The only AD that's out of the moment is really about locking in soft labor voters. It's not about flipping anyone else. As a political tactician does that fact that everyone votes two weeks before election.
I think the port you're making is absolutely spot on. You can't have that crescendo. I mean, I remember you used to know I've sat inside the central organization. Now your first week, how much spend your second week, how much spending ads? You cannot do that crescendo today is worked. You need to be, as you said, peaking almost we have second week.
We've moved away from an election day to an election period. Yes, and that is that is simply the reality of it. I mean, it used to be that the big launch was only held days before election day because that was the way it could be funded, the cost of the travel and all that sort of stuff.
But I just think, but also when they're about to get what after this little dirty deal, what eighty million dollars in money back.
For the dirty liberals?
Liberals Liberal they made you do it, You made me do it, all right, So look just about interest rates. I've made the point for the past couple of nights. Look as somebody paying off a mortgage half the damn things right, please, please, please, But the clearly the pump priming of the canbra press is this is the moment, this is the circuit breaker. The second it goes down by a quarter of represent then where everyone floods towards the government. I repeat all those stats that I said before.
If you've had to fine between fourteen and thirty eight thousand dollars extra to pay off your mortgage since the start of the government, no one's cuddling anyone at one hundred and fifty bucks off a month.
No, No, they're not. But nonetheless they'll be hoping because I think this will be a momentum, little start that they think there's more to come, and they've their policies and their situation has been so bad that anything that comes their way that we think is, oh, we can grab onto that and go. But as the charmers look, I'm sorry season to say it, but the snake charmer, it's all fantasy. It's all illusion to the lips flap, but nothing happening.
I mean, just just beggars belief.
I mean, Jim's a friend of mine. Let me be very clear about this. That would be nice perspect He's got the prospect of possibly a third surplus. Maybe, so that's a maybe, that's a positive. Maybe interest rate cut will be a small down payment, but I stress the word small down payment. Yeah. And so what that does allow, though, is I think problems that maybe a bit of momentum to be behind the economic story. And I think at the moment where done is weakest is on an economic story.
I mean, well, I don't agree with that.
It's a bit of a blank space.
No, No, here's question, are you better off?
Peter.
It's a great line.
To the point where is that in the advertising now, Like it doesn't cost any money. And I've been I've been watching this. I'm going to do a thing next week, right, which is having a look at what all the different local MPs are doing and how they get their message out. Right, there's a lot of really bad street theater from labor MPs, but we've saved it. Also, don't bother deleting it.
We've already got it on the server.
There's a bunch of liberal sort of sitting in a desk responding to things. But how hard is it to get a kid canvas and to write on a screen insert electorate you'r has gone up by, has gone up by, has gone up by?
Why aren't they doing that?
That one I can answer because I think it's a damn yeah.
I just I mean to me, if you were running in the opposition, it's this thing. You've got your core flutes. Here's the Stop showing me your face. Just say, you know in the seed of insert, you've had to pay this this and then see what happens, all right. You know Steven's agreeing, but desperately not trying to move at all, because if he moves a muscle, then then he knows the Life membership is in danger. I've got forty five seconds, but I simply maybe have to go yes no here.
I think we get an exemption from Trump eventually. The things don't kick until March, and he had a forty minute call. If he isn't into us, he doesn't do the forty minute call, I think we're getting one.
What do you reckon?
I hope we are because it's in the national interest, but I'm not convinced.
Say, look, I think it will be drawn out. He's clearly shown deal it with Trudeau, and he's helped destroy Trudeau. He's been chasing Starmer. He's gone hard there. He doesn't mind interfering in other countries political elections. I think he will draw it out. I think ultimately we should get one, but I think you'll draw it out, possibly past your election.
I've gotta say Navarro did worry me ever so slightly today, where I thought, oh, hang on, if he's the last man in.
The room, we wouldn't be making that statement without someone knowing who's going to.
Make it correct?
All right, the screaming of me because Megan Kelly is next. Thank you very much, all the best hopefully get better and we look forward to seeing you again in the man cave asap.
Thank you, mate, morn is sick you all married.
Last our favorite time of the week, because it's time to talk to our favorite person in the world. Meghan Kelly for the Megan Kelly Show YouTube podcast, Serious exam but.
Most importantly right now on Sky News. Hello, Rockstar.
How are you doing?
Paul Ah? Not as good as you? What about you? You don't just go to the super Bowl Meghan Kelly style. You don't go to the super Bowl. You take your beautiful boy with you. You're sit in the box. Oh yeah, and the President's over there. Tell what was the super Bowl like?
It was very cool.
I have to say. I even I was excited, and I'm not even a sports person, but we were invited to go by YouTube. We said yes, and it just so happened that my husband's team, the Philadelphia Eagles, made it into the Big Game and then ultimately won, So he was as happy as could be. We sit down in this fancy, you know suite that YouTube had, and I look over to my right and there is Taylor Swift getting booed by the entire stadium, and I look
over my left and there's there's President Trump. I'm like, oh my god, right in between these two, and he's getting cheers and she's getting jeers.
It was fine.
At that point. I was like, I'm just going to slink back in my little seat right here and keep watching because this is great theater.
Did you get a chat?
I know he had the Sophie, but was it Was it much of a chat with the president?
Yes, we did get to chat a bit, and he was in a great mood. He was super happy. Even then. He was very focused on the fact that Taylor got booed, was very happy that she got.
Yeah.
I'll be honest, look, I get that most powerful person in the world. All the rest I love. I love that he doesn't forgive.
And I love that he could be a bit pity every now and then.
And you know what, she thought, she was putting the final stake into the heart.
Of the vampire.
He did after the debate, and he's just turned around and go, sorry, sorry, who's the winner out? Look at the scoreboard, literally, look at the scoreboard.
Who could blame him?
Exactly right?
And there she was, and she looked fuddled at the fact that people were booing her as if like, do they not know it's me? It is high Taylor Swift, Why on earth would you would you boo me? It's like, because you got political, you took a risk. It didn't pan out.
Sorry.
As I said said on my show, this is the FO part of the FAFO calculation. You decided to get political, you decided to endorse a candidate. You decided to say it was because of Tim Wallace's LGBTQ stance, which is insane. It shows you're all a radical leftist, not just like a mild moderate democrat, and so we're over you. On top of which, she's totally overexposed. We're sick of her. Even my kids are like, why do they keep showing
her at these games? My little guy, he's only eleven, He's like, Mom, they showed Taylor Swift the whole game. They never showed Trump except for the first time when they sang the national anthem. Even he's getting it. So everyone's just sick of her. It's overexposure. We're tired of her. A little booh booh me act. I'll say this too. I think the guys having the time of his life. He had spent the morning golfing with Tiger Woods, which
is like every golfer's dream. Then he flies out there to the Super Bowl where he gets the great sweet seats. He's sitting next to his daughter, Ivanka, who they all call the princess in the family because everyone loves her, but Trump loves her. She's clearly his favorite, and they they're all very good natured about that relationship. They think it's sweet.
Let's unpack again a little bit more about what we learn about the sixty minutes stuff, where clearly they were at the very least benefit of the doubt shining the shoe of Kamala Harris in that interview. Now, the full interview was obviously longer than what they put to air, but that's what they do. They shoot, you know, for an hour to eventually cut down to whatever, ten fifteen minutes.
But what's come out after the raw tape has been released is all of the little benefits of the doubt, the little moments that would otherwise have exposed the blithering idiot that America rejected, but they chose not to show those moments because of course they were on her side. Yet another mark against a type of media that wants to just be dishonest.
Release the full tape.
Okay, edit it down for the Sunday Night Show, but release the full tape.
I can't believe once it became a controversy they didn't just do that. They acted like it was a state secret, you know, like we will never you know never. It's like, wait a minute, this isn't a classified document. This wasn't something to you by a source with the understanding that you would only reveal part of it, all of which I could understand. This is an interview with a candidate for president, She's the Democratic nominee for president. Why you
should be doing it anyway? Never mind once a controversy has erupted about whether you've been fair. And I can only conclude, having seen the transcript now because the one inane answer that caused all the trouble for them, it wasn't good, but it wasn't a cardinal sin what they did there. But if you look at the overall transcript, what you glean is that they ran cover for her. Her most vapid, empty headed maronic answers all fell out of the interview and were left on the editing room floor.
And so when you read it. It does show a pattern of protection. What we found out about that one infamous answer in response to which Netanyahu does not appear to be listening to you, was they teased one piece of the answer on Sunday and then they ran a different piece of the answer on Monday, and people wanted to know what else was in the answer. Well, the answer to that is nothing. The whole answer was those
two pieces merged together. Now, the one they used in the teas on Sunday made her sound especially dumb and incomprehensible, which is a feat, and somebody decided they would do her solid and run be slightly more comprehensible, but still a kind of answer on sixty minutes, which is what they did. And when you string them together, she sounds even dumber.
But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.
Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah, who is not We're not going.
To stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.
Typical Kamala Harris. It was three hundred words to say ten words. So they did definitely do a solid for her. But then you read the rest of the transcript and what wound up on the editing room floor ambitions, aspirations, hopes and dreams, and I just really believe, I believe right, And she goes into her little bits that she did everywhere on the campaign trail that were full of nothing, empty calories. So why did they do that? The people
at sixty minutes are not dumb. There are many journalists who are many, but the people who work at sixty are not stupid. They're biased, but they're not dumb. And so they did that. I don't believe it was because they thought it would be bad TV. I think they did it because they understood it would subject her to the same feeling among the audience that they undoubtedly had when they saw it, which is good. God, here she goes again, she's an idiot, like she has nothing substantive
to say. This is sixty minutes, This isn't the view, this isn't Oprah say something meaningful?
And you see, they had.
Their little scissors that we used to use when we were in first grade to cut out the little gingerbread man, and they tried to cut out a real presidential candidate who could speak on issues and not sound completely off point or like she was trying to rally her sorority for a night of wine. They failed, but they did the best they could. And I think that's why they wouldn't release the transcript, because you know, front to back, that's what you walk away with. They protected her.
Yeah, and I think the gingerbread man would have been smarter than Kamala Harris could have dreamt to be during her presidential run. All right, Megan, love me to say you will see you again next waite go the best.
Thanks for having me see you soon.
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