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There is so much drama happening in one state in Australia, and it is Tasmania.
I know most people don't live there.
I know we all love it, but drama, drama, drama, baby, and it gets even wilder tonight. Even the ABC is calling out the Prime Minister has been a bit of an empty suit on his let's all you know, thanks for the ninety four seats.
Now, let's work out what we're going to do for the next three years and some.
Home truth, some tough talk, no happy talk about the garbage that's going on in the United States at the moment, surprise, surprise, much of the Trump aiding meeting in Australia not willing to tell you the true story. But first, Australia has quite a lot of politicians. We know about the more than one hundred and fifty that are in the Lower House, and the six different senators from each of the states, a couple from the different territories, and all day, every day.
These are the people who get to tell us how we have to live, and all of them pretend that they can feel our pain, even though, as I have told you many times before, there have been three pay rises in the first term of the Aberaneze government. The first one was two point seventy five percent, the second one was their biggest they had received in a decade, and just last year the second biggest pay rise in the last decade.
They are well and truly well remunerated.
As millions of Australians work harder than ever for what feels like less money at the end of the pay cycle, let alone Australia being in a per capita recession for most of the past three years, getting ready for more of the same for the next three years because of productivity. And don't worry, I won't be going into great detail about products tonight. Our living standards are down to nineteen
fifty nine. And despite the fact of all of this, despite the fact of cost of living crisis, despite the fact of and it's exactly the same after the election as it was before the election, of three million people, this close to homelessness of more than three million households, that will have run out of food most probably by
this time. Each and every week, a disgraceful decision has been made to give our politicians another freaking pay rise, the fourth since the Labor Party won in twenty twenty two, and just so happened to be timed weeks after a federal election. We learned today that the Renumeration Tribunal has given another two point four percent now, meaning that the Prime Minister is going to get an extra fourteen and a half thousand dollars a year on top of the last pay rise, the one before that and the one
before that. No wonder, these people are cockerhop so happy to be part of the club now. Years ago a decision was made because of course politicians, if they were in charge of their own pay, they'd be blowback. But now a independent tribunal, the Renumeration Tribunal, is the one that decides whether the politicians of Australia deserve a pay rise. And they've come out with their determination and here is some details about it. Anthony Abernezi and other politicians has
set for a plumbed up pay packet. The Prime Minister will go from six hundred and seven thousand dollars a year to six hundred and twenty two thousand dollars. He did nothing to deserve the pay rise. Backbencher will now go from two thirty three to two thirty nine thousand dollars, or the opposition leader will go up by ten thousand
dollars to four hundred and forty two thousand dollars. That, of course, because she was not the previous lead out the last election, so she gets the loading that takes her to more than four.
Hundred thousand dollars.
Someone who will be earning even more than the alternative prime minister is the bloke who considers himself to be the next prime minister, Jim Charmers, the one who feels your pain, the one who says he needs not just this election, but another election before they can put in
place what's needed to fix the country. Four hundred and forty eight thousand dollars cabinet ministers, including a lot of the freeloaders and the free riders that we've talked about over the years, is now four hundred and twelve thousand dollars.
What a disgrace.
These people are already earning a big chunk of change on top of that, they have staff who including were given extra staff in the last parliament so they could film themselves to TikTok videos, despite the fact that TikTok is banned by the Australian government. They of course have the printing allowances. They've got the ability to walk into Parliament and defame anyone they want because they're a special
breed of human. But there's even more detail which is going to annoy you, because it's not just a pay rise for politicians. You see, the same people who got the same three pay rises of the last term in Parliament are very senior public servants, the public servants that are already paid more than the Prime Minister or the Minister of the day of which they are supposedly answerable to. These people have all of the same travel entitlements. They're all the ones flying up the front of the plane.
These are all the people who think they are more important than you and I and the Independent Tribunal bangs in the fourth pay rise in three years for these people.
The believable.
Australians are going backwards to a standard of living that is back in nineteen fifty nine. Hunger, homelessness, hard work. These people. Four pay rises since twenty twenty two, unbelievable. See this is another example of what I've banged on about for a long time. And I don't care if I'm going to be the last soldier left after the war or I'll be the one stuck on an island
still yelling into the sky. The plan of the modern machine is that you will be dependent on government the way that center left or even wilder left governments like Andrews in Victoria, Palachet in Queensland, Cook in Western Australia. The way they run the system is they want a triangle of dependency where the majority of the country has its hand out for welfare and any suggestion of it being pulled back would mean never vote for a changing government.
More people than ever before work for the government, getting pay rises like four in three years, which means any suggestion of a reduction, and that means don't change the government. And then anyone in private industry, your biggest client is supposed to be the local state or federal government, because then you too will not rock the boat. And if you set up that triangle, you don't just go past
fifty percent, you get to sixty percent. You get the seventy percent of the country who will never change the government. As long as everyone doesn't rock the boat, the tide rises for all that are inside the triangle, for everyone outside who is having to work harder to pay for more of it, just shut up and keep paying. Honestly, this is an absolute disgrace.
Wouldn't it be.
Wonderful if just a single person in the system said no, I don't want it. And there have been examples of premiers in different states saying no, no, no, Thanks for the advice, but not on now. Watch it's not going to take place simple test of whether the newly freshly re elected forever prime Minister and his ministers truly care about those that are doing it tough. But of course you and I both know this will be the extent of the conversation.
Now let's get to Tazzy now. You know I love Tazzy.
I love going now, I love doing our towns, I love holiday in there. It is an absolutely spectacular part of Australia. I spent a lot of time in the North. No offense to the South, but I just think it's a ripping joint right lon Cesteren They've even got their own casino.
It is a spectacular part of Australia.
Well, as you know, there's a lot of drama, drama, drama when it comes to the politics that's playing out in Tasmania. And I understand my old mate Peter Burner used to say, there's the compassion pie. There's so many, so many things you can get about it any one day. And the intricacies of Tasmanian politics may not be at the absolute tippy top of your to do list when it comes to problems. But what a story is playing out in Tasmania. For those that are just joining the drama.
Let me bring you up to date with the bold and the beautiful of the Apple Aisle. The Labor Party, who have ten seats in the Parliament and you need way more than that to form the majority, has been able to slowly but surely rant and rave about debt, football stadiums and ferries, so much so that they have got together with the Greens. And even then there's not enough people to pass something or to become a government.
So they have got many, in fact, all by one of the cross bench to vote with them no confidence, no confidence in the government. The premier who convention would suggest is supposed to hand in his gut and badge as a way of keeping his party in power. Says no, no,
I'm not going anywhere. So we go back to the Labor Party going okay, the same people that were able to get them, plus the Greens and the cross Bench, would they all be able to form some sort of a government to land between now and the official next election of Tasmania. Will know, they say no deals with the cross Bench or the Greens, so they're happy to tear the joint down but then want to walk away
from the consequences. Well, this time last night I told you that the Premier went to the Governor of Tasmania to say, hey, we can't get anything done in the parliament, which means we need a new election. And rather than just saying okay, I don't like the idea of elections you know, every fifteen months, but still okay, that's the way it works, off to election, she said no, I'll get back to you by the end of the week, which meant one hell of a day today for the
Tasmanian Premier, Jeremy Rothcliffe. Now these are now obviously the collective media that was ripping into him today. They think that he is the problem. He is the man who won't go. He is the one who's trying to put himself into a pair of concrete shoes that won't move from his perspective, and I completely respect it. He deserves every right and if his party room wants to roll him, but if they won't, then he deserves to stand. And if the other bloke won't former government, then why are
we off to an election? We'll have a listen to some of the questions he was copping today and then there's one in particular that will just bowl you over.
Talk radio still foot the callers asking for you to stand outs.
Not punish you for taking them to unnecessary and constantly elect Halma no longer has confidence in you, don't You no longer have the confidence of the Tasmanian people.
So some uses an illegitimate motion of no confidence figure And firstly, he's not bringing on the election. It was the opposition who do what oppositions do, which is trying to put the black eye as hard as they can in on a government. But you've got to have the stones to be willing to replace the government. You see, this is all so wild that nobody's got candidates, nobody's got a plan for how to win an election. They've just run a federal campaign. There's no money in terms
of the campaign costs for both of the parties. But have a listened to a particular exchange with one reporter who just has given up even pretending to be respectful of the elected premier of Tasmania.
You are the premier.
You can stop this now, you can resign.
You don't have the confidence of a house.
You're not a legitimate premier.
So what are you doing here?
You're not a legitimate premier.
Okay, now, yeah, he's right out on the edge, but that's why he wanted an election. The governor turns around and says, I'm not going to give you an election because it was a subtle message of the Liberal Party change your leader, or to the Labor Party. How can you stitch together a government so we don't have to have an election.
Premier Rockcliff's response.
I am Premier and I'm here today focusing on what Tasmanians want us to focus on, and that is delivering better health services. You know very well the wind saw an opportunity, but he deceived the cross bench he deceived the Parliament and he deceived the Tasmanian people.
Now, well done for the control because we know the question was designed to make him blow up and expose some personality flaw before the people of Tasmania. Well, guess what tonight? The governor is not going to make us wait till the end of the week. The governor has said, yes, you can have an election, and there will be one in the dead of winter. Poor Tasmanians have just had to go through a federal campaign. Will they have to
go through a state campaign? And make this very clear, whatever the result is, the reason for the election is the Labor Party forcing the election. Yes, Jeremy Rockcliffe did not resign, but no one in his party chose to challenge either. Now, whether that is a fatal mistake that means the Liberal Party is wiped off the map or the Labor Party is punished for what they have done to force an election in Tasmania.
Who knows.
We'll all have to wait, watch and seeing together. But what about the drama.
That me am? I the drama? I don't think I'm the drama. Maybe I am. I have a young team.
Now, let's also have a look here at Big Australia now again regardless of what we all know to be the case in every pole that's ever put out by any organization that will tell us Australia thinks too many people too quickly.
But of course to say that is some sort of racism. You and I both know it's not about that.
It's just literally, if you keep adding hundreds of thousands of people and you haven't improved the system by hundreds of thousands, let alone built hundreds of thousands of homes, guess what. The very few homes that are left over have too many people looking for them, the prices go up up, and the people who are really struggling, like a single mum, like any single parent, like an older person living by themselves, where they are getting blasted out of.
Particularly the rental market.
More proof of that today, as always homepage make it sky news dot com dot Au because not only highlights of this and every other pro but stories like this. Australia's mass migration disaster is overwhelming. Labourer's housing plan availability has gone backwards by hundreds of homes every week. Australia is bringing in migrants faster than it can house them. That's our point. With Labour's mass immigration plans out pacing new home construction and shrinking the housing supply by more
than one thousand homes every week. The State of Housing System twenty twenty five report, which they are looking into here, forecasts that the country will build only nine hundred and thirty eight thousand homes by June of twenty twenty nine. One point two million is what they promised in terms
of immigration. What we will actually have to be building is two hundred and forty thousand extra homes on top of that, because to keep pace with immigration driven population growth, Australia needs to construct approximately two hundred and forty thousand homes annually.
Believable. That's what we talk about on the show.
Oh but to talk about it's nasty, to talk about it's racist. Again for the four hundred and eighty seven thousandth time, may I point to the asterisk, which is always we understand the role of immigration, we understand the role of multiculturalism.
It's not about that.
It's literally about infrastructure keeping up with Australia and its population as it is today. But because the federal government needs to keep pumping up the number of people paying tax in the country. Business wants to sell the more customers in the country, it's just put into the too
hard basket. We end up in a scenario with thousands of people living intents, plenty of others going broke, trying to pay off the home that they are trying to do so via interest rates or via rent, and the politicians's job it is to deal with this.
They don't care because.
They've got four pay rises, four pay rises in the past three years. Talk about America now and the situation that has been playing out there for some time, particularly the riots in Los Angeles. Now, you know a lot about all of this, but let's make this nice and clear. For those that may have tuned into this story a couple of days late, maybe only paid half attention to the six PM news, Let's tell you some home truths here.
Much of the media would like to pretend that all of this is about one issue and one issue only.
I think a lot of people believe that we're talking about mass deportation plans that would just sort of effect on documents and immigrants.
That's not true.
There are twenty two million people that live in mixed status families.
So the American would be deported too.
That's what targetment.
Families will be deported.
The methods that this administration has deployed are extreme, threatening, not just undocumented immigrants, but the entire rule of law in America.
The Trump administration is that they don't care if you're complaining with the law. There are terrorizing communities, and they're ambushing immigrants outside of courthouses, restaurants, workspaces place.
Let's get by to first principles here. A country that does not police its borders is no country. It's just a place where people can come and go and hang out and do whatever they want. The reality is is that the United States, like every other serious country in the world, polices its borders. It's why you've got to fill out a form before you fly to the United States.
It's why you've got to apply before you move to.
The United States. It's why you have to apply before you can move and work in the United States. Not only so you know who's coming in, but you know how many are coming in. What is not Okay's illegal immigration. When people decide no forms, no cues, bugger it and buy the millions.
During the Biden.
Years, they just simply walked over a border, and even if they were detained or met by somebody with a badge, they were more often than not let go or as we know, bust all over the country, meaning that every he became a border city. Put simply, if by now you don't know and you don't tell people when you're talking about these issues that there is legal immigration and illegal immigration, then you are playing a very silly game.
Perfect example.
In the United States, for some reason, much of the establishment and access media, and much of the activist media as well, never used the term illegal immigration. They just say migration, pretending that somebody who didn't fill out of form, who just walked over the border is exactly the same as the person who filled out the paperwork and waited in a queue for years.
Perfect example.
Demonstrations for immigration raids, federal immigration rates, controversial immigration policies, immigration crackdowns.
Immigration crackdown, federal deportation.
Rates, Donald Trump's immigration policy.
No, not immigration policy, illegal immigration policy, and unbelievably, you have seen when and there was an attempt by the United States government to go and collect people who had not filled out the form, not weighted in the queue, not done the right thing. That those people were being arrested, but of course because people don't want to go, they're nabbed off the streets, they are kidnapped, and all the
other invective. The reality is people have been warned since day dot of this administration that if you are here illegally, go or we're going to come for you. In fact, will even help you fill out the forms to get out of here, and will pay for you to get out of here. So a whole bunch of protests which started in and around downtown and the place where the
Immigration Enforcement Agency is located. Okay, in that place where those people were doing their job of enforcing the obvious difference between legal and illegal immigration, people started to turn up, and in the past few days we know how wild
it has gotten. And the very same nasty players in the American media who say no difference, no difference between legal and illegal immigration, well, they want to pretend that there's some sort of a resistance movement that is building against a president for enforcing the obvious laws that are no different in Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Norway, or the United States, legal or illegal immigration.
He is absolutely panicked by the protests against him to the point where he's already playing the biggest cards that he's got and he's not even six months into this term. I just think, I think we're getting the test really early, and I think that he's failing.
Now. Again.
You can like, you can dislike, you can think it's good but Trump bad Trump. But enforcing this law is something that even Obama talked about. Okay, but just because Orange Man bad everything and they want to pretend that he's starting World War III or Civil War two point zero.
But let's get to another little fact that again you probably didn't see six PM news in Australia, you barely have seen it in mainstream news in the United States, which is, you know how, there's an awful lot of people that for some reason are waving the Mexican flag, particularly in the protests which started in California are now starting to bounce up all around the country. Why are
they doing that? Well, let's actually have a listen to one of the protesters who explains why people are waving the Mexican flag in California when the American government is enforcing who can stay because they're legal, and who should go because they're not.
We've been here for thousands of years before you guys showed up screw up everything. We think we should organize together with the US working class and fight together and create a vero system where anti capitalists. We think socialism does work, real socialism, not Venezuela, not Cuba, not editing that that they try to sell us and socialism, and where we leave it would be a more humane system that will tell you of our people's necessities.
Is there a country we can look to to kind of model the socialism idea?
The only motto would be Soviet Union. In the first four years after that it became a mass Yeah.
So some of the people that are protesting are protesting because of the enforcement of the laws that again every president has enforced, I repeat Obama, hundreds of thousands of deportations. He of course was the one who did the caging of kids. But you know, Orange, bad, Bad, he invented.
All of this stuff.
Some of the people that are in those protests are nothing to do with that question of legal versus illegal immigration. They're trying to, among other things, say this isn't even America. This was Mexico. It still will remain Mexico, and eventually we can boot out the Americans and turn it back into the territorial lands of which it was before. Deals were done, in fact, literally sold by the Mexican government to the American government way back when.
And then there's this story that you.
May will have heard a version of today in the Australian media.
Los Angeles mayor has announced an almost immediate curfew. After five straight days of unreased Los Angeles is in lockdown tonight. A curfew is in place across downtown LA.
Part of Los Angeles is tonight under a curfew. Those who are there are barred from being on the streets because you see, it's all widely out of control.
Why because of Orange Man Bad deciding to send in the troops. That's the reason for the curfew. Except that's not the reason for the curfew. Even the lefty mayor who was the one who put this curfew in in a very small part of downtown.
But still all of Los Angeles is under lockdown.
Please Anyway, the reason that's the case is because of the looting that took place over the multiple days of the protest, which apparently were about this. Because it, as I've just shown, you really could be about that, and please explain how the enforcement of immigration law means?
This is okay crazy?
And again the far left mayor of Los Angeles, who couldn't be a bigger Trump hater, actually explains, and did you see this in much of the Australian media today The curfew has nothing to do with the immigration stuff. It has to do with the psychos that are running from shop to shop bashing things in.
I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew for downtown Los Angeles to stop the vandalism, to stop the looting.
Sorry, did you hear Donald Trump and any of that? Did you hear the migration policies in any of that? Again, even let's imagine, and it's not true, but let's imagine the first day was about the migrant This clearly just became the free for all for anyone who wanted to do whatever the heck they wanted. Well, thankfully, the curfew
seems to have worked. And again, spare thought for the poor men and women who have to enforce the law when they're up against craziness like what you have seen, reinforced by a political class who, for whatever reason, think there is no difference between legal and illegal. But I guarantee living gated communities, or if they don't, they've got four locks on their doors and most likely a security guard who's guarding at each and every night in the
Mayor's mansion or the governor's mansion or Pelosi's house. And all of these people again fired up by a media that wants to pretend there's no difference between somebody who waited in line and somebody who just jumped the queue. Well, thankfully the LAPD have got control of their city.
Tonight there was a large group in front of the Federal Building, upwards of seven hundred protesters wrapping up their night and swiftly made their way out of the downtown area with only a few stragglers to speak of.
Again, I get millions of people don't like Donald Trump, the majority of Australians don't like Donald Trump. But for goodness sake, illegal versus legal immigration not a hard concept for people to get their head around. And those who want to bury their head in the sand or just lighter people, including those who are reporting about it on the other side of the world, feeding.
Now a much happier moment. Before we get into our debate this evening.
The AFL Hall of Fame held the ceremony last night in Melbourne, and it was a wonderful celebration of great legends of the game, both male and female. But I want to specifically focus in on young Aaron Phillips. Aaron Phillips was somebody who I think dreamt of playing basketball but then ended up being able to play AFLW. She was one of the first female athletes to go in. Of course, the star of the Adelaide Crows going into that Hall of Fame. Massive congratulations to her and her
teammates and her family. But as the father of two daughters, I must say this moment in her speech just filled my heart until it was overflowing. In terms of a daddy daughter moment, this is pretty cool.
I can't imagine how hard it would have been to tell your thirteen year old daughter that she couldn't play the game that she loves anymore, and twenty seven years later she's standing next to you in the Hall of Fame.
It's just.
Thank you for teaching me again that I loved And even though you knew it was never going to take me anywhere at the time, you still taught me anyway.
How good is that?
Congratulations to her and everyone else who joins the list of legends of one of the great sports of the world. All right, quick breakback. We we'll plea you want to talk about and lots to debate. FightNight here on Port Murray Live, Wednesday Night, Ding Ding, Let's go.
All right before we begin our debate.
Right now, you can see around Australia the strawberry moon.
This is the last moon of spring.
The reason is called a strawberry moon is simply because it's named after the berries. Because for farmers it's a particularly important time of year. This is what you can see around the world. By this time tomorrow we'll be able to see some of the pictures here in Australia. You've missed it on the East coast, but on the West coast you get to look out. In the next little while it will be pretty much over Western Australia
as we speak. So when there's some lovely pictures of that tomorrow, I'll show you.
Lucy Zelek's here. Oh we love Lucy, don't we rot I love you.
And Stephen Conry is always just here to help, isn't he.
On a Wednesday night. All right, hey, Steven, we love you too.
By it's always it's always fun. All right, now let's talk about to albow. Of course, you know, freshly re elected ninety seven seats rule forever, you know all the rest of it, right well, as you know, he turned around and gave your speech yesterday at the Press Club, of which a big talk fest is the idea for productivity, a problem that Jim Chalmers says can't be even solved in the next term, and it'll have to be after that.
But interestingly, there is this sort of drum beat of people towards the center left saying, hey, look, I know you didn't promise much at the election, but if you've won by this much, time to burn a backbach. You've got like twenty MPs that you can up against the wall. And there have been a few movements, including apparently more progressive people being moved to the upper echelons of the public service, who of course get the same pay rise
as the politicians do at the moment. Then there's also the opinion stuff like this one here, which is Albanze's cautious approach risks a repeat of Turnbull's wasted majority. Okay, first things, First, Turnbull didn't have a majority. Tony Abbott had a majority, and then Malcolm Turnbull in the back and then he burnt the majority. So let's not pretend
that Malcolm Turbull had a majority, okay. And then the third one here written by the poster who does it for the Turnbull Times, where he writes that at a time of global and political upheaval, can Albanizi really resist calls to be more ambitious?
All right, Lucy, what do they mean? What does the left really want out of Albow?
Is there assumption that because they've won this one, they'll win everyone, So bugger it?
Put the foot down.
Oh yeah, hell for little let's go, let's destroy the economy by putting in renewable and it blackouts, brownouts. We want more of that stuff. We want everything also to be for free. So when you're asking the question, what
are they expecting Albow, it's gimmi, gimmy, gimmey. We're in that era of you know, of the generation now who were demanding that the university fees be paid for and that basically they're given a house on a plot of land that, by the way, doesn't exist thanks to ol Bow because they haven't.
Built you one.
So it's really quite interesting to watch how this plays out. Now we know that Olbow's quite calculating, and I don't think it's in his DNA to be, you know, quite gregarious when it comes to these sorts of things. I mean, just have a look at how he's handled the situation with Donald Trump at the moment, you know, Chinese warships when they were circumnavigating this and seaboard nothing to see, he nothing to say about it.
So but we set our own policy, Lucy, Yeah, well what are that we We do not capch out to any how could you say this?
So it's a really interesting time and it's interesting to also see the left demanding more of him, right. I was speaking to a lady at the post office the other day, an elderly woman, and she said, I don't get me started on Albanize's pledge about the Medicare card and you know how you don't have to take out your own bank cards. She said, it's a line. It's an absolute nonsense.
Never forget eighty five percent of GPS surveys from their own professional association say that was garbage. But you know, whatever, we voted for it. We vited for it one hundred percent. So Stephen helped me out here as a boke who's tried to fight the left within the Labor Party, but now it's in charge of the machinery. It's in charge
of the Prime Minister's office. Now many of the gallery of which that they will play to, both metaphorically or literally in terms of the press gallery is saying the same.
Thing, we want more, we want more, be more ambitious.
But obviously one of the successes of the way that things were played at the election was by literally offering not a single policy that had a downside to it. But help me out, what do they really want? What's the progressive wish list? Not the stuff that you think is going to happen. But you know the old lefties have always wanted from a prime minister with ninety something se.
Well.
I mean, the good news is Albow is not going to be sucked into or egged on into policies that we didn't take to the last election. So you know those cries you've correctly identified from more left leaning outlets. The Prime Minister Albo said he was going to govern from the center. He campaigned from the center, and he will stay in the center. So whatever they think they're arguing for, and I know none of them actually put up any ideas.
Well, that's that's that's why I'm asking you, because I've read all these and the gentermen say, hey, you know what we want universal this guaranteed that you know, I know that Albo probably would love a little bit of universal childcare as his legacy. Gillard with the NDI is and again all these things just who cares what how it's paid for in generations. But you know he kind of missed it with the voice, so he'll want to come up with something central thing.
Yeah, probably the most outrageous thing that might be being talked about is, you know, dental care might be on medicare truly revolutionary, outrageous policies you're trying to trying to mean at the corner has some secret lefting. Well, you're over there with all those lefties, you know, universal dental care for You've got to be careful. We'll get your
membership card in a minute if you're not careful. In the middle point of these PEO So those people out on the left demanding things they weren't even prepared to put up a policy agenda themselves. So when they sort of, you know, call on elbow to go down the progressive path, they don't offer any policies, not the that surprises me. And Albo will do what he said, deliverates promises from
the election. You will keep supporting the US Alliance, he will maintain a relationship with China for our trading importance, and he will govern from the center. So I did read those articles. I had a bit of a chuckle and put them away and never thought about him until I knew.
We were going to be talking.
I think as well about the concept of the Turnbull majority, the one that.
Sorry, what what he didn't he stole? Turnal majority stole.
And then up all right, yeah.
Let's get just a joke.
Yeah, the drama, drama, drama in Tasmania. And I'm not mocking Tasmania. You know again, I love it, I love visiting it. I want nothing but the best. I think that the behavior of the Labor Party and what they did trying to pull on this moment. Then the governor sort of I'll get back to it. It's just crazy the way that it's played out. But Lucy, you know, at the heart of this for some people is the immovable position of the premiere when it comes to we want an AFL team, we need a stadium for it.
Others say, well that money could go somewhere else. But if the central claim that was behind the motion of no confidence was the state's got too much debt, well, sorry, in all the speeches that I've heard and read, I don't know what the alternative solution is in terms of what the Labor Party are saying. So who got what they really wanted out of this election?
Nobody?
Who did?
Who did?
I mean when you factor in and we spoke about this last week, right because we were at the time where we were discussing it, he was on the precipice of going in for the vote. He lost the no confidence vote. Now, as you said, rightly, it's gone back to the governor who's going to decide what she's going to do when she needs a bit of time around it. You know, by all accounts, Jeremy Rockcliffe is saying and his party members are saying that they fully support him
in this role. They stand by him. I just find that it's very interesting that you know this is all coming about now particularly when there was some text messages leaked. Did you see those exchanges between a labor staff and somebody said that getting Rockcliffe out of this position would actually be good for them because they know how well liked ease by the Tasmanian public.
Turned to the right and put somebody of course.
But you know, the thing that really frustrates me in all of this as well is the hypocrisy that surrounds this, this concept that you know, they've been steeped in so much debt. We mentioned it last week. Look at how much debt the various other states are in. Then they're not copying no confidence votes. I mean, hello, suburban rail
loop down in Melbourne, Victoria. We're talking about things being over budget with respect to the fairies and the vessels there that they're waiting on that have been delayed, et cetera. But hello, by comparison, this isn't occurring by the states. Why are you waging such absolute anarchy and war on the Tasmanian people.
But again my point, Stephen, is if the threshold of let's have an election because the management is out of control, are delayed, grossly delayed and grossly over budget, things like the fairies, or the lack of ports for them to go to or debt. Well again, as Lucy says, I think that's a really strong argument against the Victorian government. But let's talk about the rockcliff of it all here, because again we're not Tasmanians.
I don't know the.
Inner workings of how people are going to interpret things. At the last election, you know, it's the multiple terms of the Liberal Party that have been around, multiple leaders. They got more seats after deciding to extend the parliament. Stupid idea Lamby ran last time. I understand she's not
running candidates this time. Does one nation step into that voie or does people rally around a premier who's had an idea wants to stick with it, or the sort of classical thing that all oppositions do, which is to turn up the noise as loud as possible and the exchanges. If you change the government, the noise goes down. What do you think about what's playing out in tasim.
Well, I do think Paul, when you were in your intro you were very close to jumping a shark.
Just to be clear, I do have a leather jacket on under this for you.
No one is the no one is the elected premier. The people of Tasmania do not elect the premier. They elect a party that elects a leader, but the party hasn't got rid of him. Concept the fund now, let me just finish the fundamental concept is that leader then seeks a conference motion or demonstrates they've got the numbers to the Governor a General. That is how Parliament of
Westminster democracy works. So a combination of the Labor Party, the Greens and the very unhappy Independence voted a motion of no confidence in Rockcliffe with have a motion no confidence in the government.
So we're having an election.
So Rockcliffe Rockcliffe then had no How does be clear Rockcliffe had a choice whether he would step down and allow another member of the Liberal Party to go to the Governor General and say I can command a majority on the floor. Rockcliffe wouldn't do that.
He wouldn't step up support Stephen of his entire party. I mean, at what point are we going to say.
That just this seems like.
That's not a majority.
But they're coming out and they're saying that they're but they're coming out and they're saying that they support him Stephen. Just semantics socide though right and talking about the Westminster system and all the rest.
Of it constitution, that's.
Fine, but that's okay, we're talking about that.
But I want to really get you.
I want to get to the crux of do you genuinely believe that this no confidence motion has merit that based on the way that Rockliffe and the Liberal Party have been running the show in Tasmania, his genuine grounds to put them back in an election situation and put the Tasmanian people through all of.
This again, give me a bumper stick of Stephen, because I have to take a break.
Yeah, the stadium is a significant issue, whether people are right or wrong on that.
Afl are playing at hard.
But the one that absolutely is the killer for them is have a look at the photos of the ferry docked in Scotland. Just have a look at it, because not only did they be to build to be a ferry, they didn't build a port big enough to go in. That level of incompetence deserves to be thrown out of governments. That is a huge suburban dismiss not very important, by the.
Way, but they're over by forty five.
I'm going to take a break don't worry about it. I've got to take a break.
And by the way, where you're talking about me crossing the jumping the shark, the state has a governor, not a governor general.
But that's okay, Stephen. We're all learning together, all right, quick break back with my.
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had to say at the start. Here we look, there's a fundamental illegal versus illegal immigration, and then on top of that, We've got a whole bunch of other people wanting to cause an awful lot of mess, And the only reason LA was locked down was because of the lunatics that are running around destroying property, not Donald Trump thoughts.
Look, I think there's three different parts to this. The first is it's been widely reported now that Stephen Miller, the architect of all these policies, went into Homeland Office and screamed at them. These are the reports verified, screamed up them that they had to start deporting more people. So they moved from raiding the Venezuelan gangs to down at home depot to raid the workers at the home depot.
So a bit of a difference there, but this has been brought on by Miller demanding that more people be deported. That was then just genuine uprising, limited by those who felt that this was not the right thing to do in terms of you told us you were going after Venezuelan gangs, not after.
The way person now at home depot. No.
No, And that's on pot of the three themes here that Donald Trump, who needs to change the narrative, is the master a changing the narrative, catching the Democrats flat for all the time. You know, are we talking about Jeffrey Epstein and Elon Musk this week?
Absolutely? Sorry today?
No heed, Yeah, no, no, he groveled. And as we know, Donald Trump is always happy to take some person who's criticism back as long as they kiss his ass. Hello Marco Rubio.
Uh.
Never happened in the Labor Party. I mean, when when you break it, you stay broken. Nobody ever papers that over writ in the Labor Party. Rats rats a rat Okay. So then unless they.
Are at Greens right, and then you can will into your in the Senate, I've got a consistent.
Position of I've got a consistent position they should all right or resign if they do that in the Senate. So then you've got whether or not it's justified. Beyond the National Guard, and I think where you know, to borrow the phrase where it's popular tonight, where he's jumped the shark, not in the way that I think will hurt him, but he's jumped the shark on the Marines, I think the National Guard. The looting, you can see
there's a just vile element. I'm not sure the National Guard would need it ultimately in the looting, but the curfew all those things, absolutely, and you're right to point out it's for the looting and the rioting, not the demonstrations and the protests. Okay, very different issues. As you've said, correctly, whole bunch of people who you know took advantage of this to engage in criminal behavior, completely right, call their poor,
completely right. But sending in the Marines is jumping that shark.
Well I appreciate that, but why though, like you just I just want to know why is the jumping the shark though?
Because they're not needed? And look, this is a bloke who won't deploy a troop in defense of Ukraine, but will deploy troops to attack his own citizens.
That's why erection American is exactly.
But is it to jack citizens or is it signal to say to the people that enough is enough?
The fact that you have all of these people.
Immigrants to actually they're committing strategy right thing by coming into the country legally.
Season come on you, I love this, I love this.
I'm gonna let you go all nights trouble check it out.
But he can beat up a few.
Protesters in Los Angeles by sending in the.
Protesters is launching is right?
Vandalizing cars, they're attacking police. Come.
I'm one hundred percent with the curfew. I'm one hundred percent with the curfew.
But don't send in a sign of strength to say, hey, women, business and enough.
Sin of strength. It's their own people, it's their own people.
One way Mexican flag reason says I love this country.
I'm more than I refuse to go there.
Sorry to half on, I mean to find some lunatic socialist Mexican to pretend that this is what there's really These writers are really about enough jumping the ship's standard.
You see, that's just you. That's you work in the clock, in the clock. All right, I got the last word last time, you get it. This time, Lucy, you get it. Next week, I'm I'm in your backyard. She gets it down your back Thank you guys.
Next week quick break at a final thought before we head off the late debate, don't go anywhere goods.
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Have a look at this sunken ship, sixteen billion dollars worth of treasure. It's been found in around the Caribbean. It's referred to as the Holy Grail of shipwrecks. We're just liking to show you some random things across the show. This apparently was a vessel that was sunk by the Royal Navy seventeen oh eight. What is inside at sixteen billion dollars worth of treasure? Good luck to the chat once you get back to the beach. About your bit, my bit, your bit, my bit quickly? Something I want
to say in favor of the police. You know on the show we are pro police and I stand by the news of Welds Police in particular with industrial action they have planned because they are sick and tired of having to transport people in between prisons. They are not the corrections department. They are not the prison's department. They the police department. And also, as always we send strength and love to the people who run towards people on the toughest day of their.
Life, all day, every day.
Story today that New South Wales police are being pushed to find the root cause of psychological injuries because in the years between mid twenty nineteen mid twenty four, psychological injury now make up seventy four percent of compensation costs, totaling one point seventy five billion dollars, compared to just twenty six percent for physical injuries. I believe this is yet again more information that we should be moving towards a Royal commission into the trauma that is faced by
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