From the sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Cherry, you're the best. Of course, it was a big night last night. Thank you to everyone who turned up, everyone who watched. And don't forget we've got that big announcement today that the leaders will be going head to head on this channel first place during the election. I'm telling you, sky News it always delivers during an election, always lifts. This is what we do best. We've got
lots to get to tonight. You can always set me an m up alot sky News dot com, dot you. But I want to focus, as always the start of the show on what should be a little bit higher in the news, but it isn't because there's not as many people who live there. But there will be a consequence to the economy. But more importantly, there are our fellow Australians that are suffering right now. These floods that are in and around Queensland. They are mega, they are
absolutely mega. The area of this thing is now apparently the best part of three thousand kilometers. It is the size of Victoria and then some. This thing is huge and there are huge communities in the trees that are being affected. As we speak. Here's the latest from sky News Weather Now.
Major flood warnings are current for the river catchments shaded in red. This still includes the Baku, Thompson and Cooper Creek river catchments, the Blu River, and the Paru River. There are concerns of overnight major flooding occurring along the Thompson River at the long Reach.
As for the locals, here's the mayor, a.
Lot of helicopters in the area and they're trying to assess stock losses. We have fodder available to drop, but you have to find a dry area, you know, to drop the fodder for the stock. So it's very difficult.
And about that about one hundred thousand head may well have been drowned or are missing right now as a result of these floods. There is a serious consequence to our food supply when that mini die or go missing. This thing is absolutely huge. A local vet was talking to us a bit earlier today about this.
Very We think that there's been at least ten thousand cattle lost. Individual farms we think have losses anywhere from fifty to ninety percent. The occasional farm has lost every single animal on their place, all cattle and horses.
Are gone, absolutely terrible. This is not just about those livestock, but is of course about their businesses, their farms. People may well have been just holding on to be wiped out like this. It is a massive, massive story and there's a huge number of Australians who really are doing it tough right now. The information that we are getting is sadly more rain to come over the next couple of days. Why because of course the former extropical cyclone,
well it was coming in from the east. This one is coming in from the west.
Widespread rain of accumulations over the next twenty four hours look to broadly exceed at twenty five to fifty millimeters, so this could result in some renewed river rises in the state's west. There are growing concerns though, that other areas could see flooding. Therefore, flood watches are now current for southern Inland and southeast coastal rivers of Queensland.
Now, as I love to say, humans are awesome and there are stories of incredible things that have taken place as a result of this as people to help each other out. Now there is an organization that we actually spend some time with on Saturday in Toowoomba, and that is Life Flight. These are people who go deep into the bush to pick people up off the side of
the roads to bring people in from their properties. It's basically sort of like a floating emergency room and they had been involved in many a rescue, including this one that was in the newspapers today that a man was lost for two days in floodwater in western Queensland. His four wheel drive became bogged and he's been dramatically rescued after building himself a makeshift shelter and he wrote the word help in the mud with a stick. Think about that.
He was found after walking sixty kilometers by cattle and goat farmers who were checking their stock and their fences. They saw his scrawled plea and an arrow pointing rescuers in his direction on a muddy road at the end of their driveway. Life Flight Rescue helicopter service, which was on standby in Charlaville for flood evacuations, then launched a search and rescue mission for the man after he failed
to arrive home last Friday night. This was by the way that structure that he was under for a couple of days sixty kilometers worth of walking that he had done very weak, and thankfully because of that aerial support, and thankfully because the farmers were out checking their own land. He is alive and with us today. Good stuff. Now I've got to call out a prime minister. The Prime Minister today spent a bit of time in Perth, spent a bit of time in South Australia. Couldn't be bothered
going to any of these communities. It is a disgrace that the so called leader of the nation, whom windlows or draw will stand there on election night and say I've been a Prime minister for all Australians is ignoring the very people who are in the middle of this situation. More rain in some parts has been recorded as a result of this flood event than the one that he
was running around in that being tropical Cyclone Alfred. You can't help but conclude that the reason that it is nowhere near it is because there's no votes in it, because there's no rolling coverage like there was when it was a more populous area in the southeast of Queensland. But he is the prime minister. He has the biggest microphone in the country and he has a traveling press pack with him. Prime Minister, if you truly seek to be a leader for all Australians, get off your ass
and go to this part of Queensland. I know the plan is to pretend that it doesn't exist because it's good old fashioned National or LNP or Catta country, but it's all Australia. This will have way more of an effect on a federal budget than what happened in the southeast. But of course all of that was just a way of changing the subject and I've got plenty more to say about that. But it's a disgrace that he has
not been there yet. If it was any other Prime minister, and this sort of situation was happening a little closer to town where we all know how the usual suspects will be going ballistic. Thankfully, Peter Dudden, he went yesterday thirty two days to go until Australia gets the chance to choose its next government. Do we get more of the same or is it time to get the joint back on track? As the opposition leader would say, that is thirty two days to go, twenty one days until the
very first votes are cast, three weeks away. From early voting. This is of course, where more than half of all people will vote. So essentially there are two campaigns. There's the one before and then the one that leads up to election day. Today. Peter Dudden fresh from that pub test last night, and you could see that he was pumped up not just by his family but by people who were keen for him to defeat one of the
worst prime ministers of all time. He's got a pretty simple message to those that are doubting what his future is in the next five weeks. Well, I don't think you've said anything yet.
I think wait until we get into this campaign and you see more of what we've got to offer.
Albo, more of the same, the money can going off. These are all the promises money wise he's made since January.
A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million dollars, ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars, three hundred and fifty million dollars, two billion dollars, thirty seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar, two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar, four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars three point four billion dollars, two point eight billion dollars, two hundred
million dollar, one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Now, this bloke's getting cocky. He thinks that everything's rolling his way. He thinks the budget was amazing. I'll burst that bubble for him in a second. And here he was dialing it up to eleven with the press today.
Seamless segue from global politics to the suburban roller. People will vote in an election, all right.
Longer version of State of the Race with a special guest with us tonight, Stephen Conroy, Michael Kroger. They won't hold back, no gloves, no politeness. They'll go as hard as possible. Team Read versus Team Blue. A little bit later in the night, now, I want to tell you something that's a bit of a behind the scene. It's about what took place last night. And again I think the opposition leader for being there. I thank all of those people for turning up, I thank everyone for watching.
But I want to tell you a little bit about, as I say, the behind the scenes. Thank you again to the Kamiski family and the Eaton's Hill Hotel. We love that venue and we love Queensland. You know it's my spiritual home. I thought Peter Dunton did pretty well. Why because he wasn't getting the glaring faces of the people who hate him in the rest of the media, who was looking at people, including his family, who want him to do well.
The Labor Party has failed our country over the last three years, reduced the fuel tax by twenty five cents a leader, the Prime Minister at the moment. Why'd tell you this, but the bulk billing rate in our country is at seventy seven percent. Harry'll be embarrassed hear me call him out. But Harry has just gone into his second year of apprenticeship as a carpenter. He's got a boost in his pay which means he can start to pay some board at home as well.
He's a good plaq. He really is his father as well. All right. There was not much media coverage of what we did last night, and that's not me speaking from ego. It's just interesting because all of the media was there. In fact, there was, of course the live blog which is at Sky News. You would expect that there was the focus on the joke about the sun that was the angle Thattnews Dot com dot Au took but essentially that was it. Now again, did I expect it to
become rolling coverage, lead news the main thing. They'd open Sunrise or The Today Show with no But all of the media organizations were at the pub last night. They were there, they saw what was taking place, and an actual fact, there was a little bit of push and shove from some of those media types. Now put simply,
the pub last night was effectively our television studio. And in the same way that I wouldn't expect if I sat here and interviewed Peter Dutton in the man cave for cameras for seven, nine, ten to two photographers from The Guardian to be standing on the other side of the camera. Just wouldn't work like that, as we wouldn't expect the Sky News cameras to go barreling onto the
set of the Today Show or ABC News Breakfast. But the decision was made by the Peter Dutton team to make sure that those people could come and could observe. And again I don't have a problem with them coming and observing, but they decided to just well some of them just gate crash parts of the event. Now, all of the stuff was being covered by our cameras that had been set up all day, with everything planned by an excellent team who put together all of our outside broadcasts.
But no, no, no, they wanted to get their own footage. They originally wanted to have their own cameras where we all know what type of footage they'd be getting. It wouldn't be anyone who was talking. They'd just be looking for somebody yawning or something like that. But they set themselves up in a sort of unplanned way to capture the alternative Prime Minister and his family walking in. But again,
that footage really never went anywhere. You see, the reality of why the press was there is because they were there for only two reasons. They wanted a protester or they wanted him to stuff up, neither of which took place. One because Peter Dutton was on his game and two because we are smarted the loons that have caused trouble in the past. And amazingly, again they were there, they watched it, and none of them decided to include his
performance because that would be considered positive. How dare they show a moment of levity? But of course if it's over on Channel two or if it's on their own networks, it'll be front and center. Again, I don't talk about this because I want everyone and all eyes on me. It's just every news organization was there, yet very few decided to report on it. But I guarantee if there
was a protest, you would have seen the photo. I guarantee if he had stuffed up or sworn, somebody had yelled at him, you would have seen those grabs on TV. And it's a bit of an insight into the traveling media pack. As you see with Anthony Albernezi, it's all laughs and jokes because, as I've said, they like the arrangement as it currently is. Much of the media does
not want a change in arrangements. So imagine their faces looking back at Peter Dutton whenever he makes an announcement, or of course, even if he makes an announcement or has a good night like last night, quickly changed the subject back to made up outrages. That's why they have to go around that camera collective and come to programs like this to speak directly to you, for you to be able to see the videos, for you to be able to share them, and all of them are up
now it's going news dot com, dot are you? And to further drive this point home and again, part of what I like to do during elections is not just talk about poles and we'll get into that and state of the race and team red and team blue, but talk about media games, talk about how they can choose to make one person look slightly better at the other person not so good. Now. Tim Lester is a reporter
with Channel seven. By all reports, relatively fair, but of course he's reporting not just for TV but doing stuff for the internet as well, and he is what he said today about where the Liberal Party had chosen to do one of its media events and why it might make the six pm news.
Where's the train? It's just a still paddock. The great hidden battle of the election campaign is the picture opportunity. Pictures drive news. You get more time if you're a leader and you've got good pictures on the TV, news, online, on social media, in the newspapers.
With still pictures, you've.
Got to get an interesting picture opportunity. Well, I reckon Anthony Alberizi so far is being beaten by Peter Dutton in terms of the picture opportunity.
Yeah, so they are looking for the pictures to tell the story. We'll they had plenty pictures out a lot. It's not just not the ones they wanted, which were a protester or him stuffing up. These are the little choices that they make to go into the six pm news, and the six pm news isn't the only thing, but it's the big national thing that will feed into their breakfast shows, the afternoon news, the gag shows at night,
and it's pretty obvious which way they play now. In fairness to Tim Lester, he says that so far in the election, pet It Dudn's been doing a better job of providing the pictures than Anthony Abernese. Even today was a chance for Anthony Aberneze to have a better day because they were standing in a paddock. What they were announcing was significant in that paddock. And because you probably didn't hear what that announcement was, this is what he was announcing in that paddock.
Where's the train? It's just a still paddock. It's not what we need for a picture opportunity. So Anthony Alberzi, you're losing the battle, all right.
What he was doing, of course, was announcing that he won't be putting money in the Sabin rail link instead biddings of dollars into our rail link which will connect to the north and to the south of the airport and back through to the city. Amazing stuff. And by the way, over on Channel nine tonight they're exclusive that they had documents that had been handed by the Labor
Party directly to the reporter. Now, presumably this was a special exclusive that happened just before the news, but the special exclusive was modeling that showed that teams of thousands of people lose their job if nuclear power becomes the option. These are, of course the same people who used modeling to produce this lie at the last election about how much your power bills would be cut.
Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars two hundred and seventy five dollars a year. There'll be reduction for households of two hundred and seventy five dollars.
Now, I said out as a person who dreamt of being able to one day work in the media. It was one of very few people whoever got the chance to do that. And I've seen it from all sides. I've been a radio reporter standing there holding the little microphone with the logo on the end of it. I've worked for FM radio, for AM Radio, I've done comedy shows on Triple M. I've done talk shows on TUE
and TWOGB. I've seen it from lots of angles. I've talked about it on Breakfast TV way back when over on Channel seven, and I've spoken about it here for fifteen years. I know the little nuances of the way that they are spinning the ball, and they are going to spin as hard as possible. Remember, for the past two years they've been looking for a circuit breaker that got Anthony Abernezi back into the fight. At every opportunity
they have given him the benefit of the doubt. And right now they will do their absolute best to make sure that one candidate looks better than the other. But moments like the pub test one hour uninterrupted, moments like the People's Forum next week one hour uninterrupted, mean you get to see these people with your own eyes, not through their lens. Now. But you didn't hear this about Labour's budget now, believe it or not, it's just a week.
It's just a week since the Treasurer stood up and delivered the cost of living budget, but of course he didn't want to. There wasn't a lot of detail. They all expected they'd be already a couple of weeks into the election campaign by now, but because they were definitely not campaigning while campaigning in cycling now for it, while
of course ignoring what's happening right now in regional Queensland. Well, of course they said that the focus just one week ago of the event that you can't remember was cost of living, because every pole, every time tells us it is one, two and three in terms of priorities of people.
This budget is all about helping with the cost of living, cost of living.
Hell, providing cost of living relief.
The cost of living relief, cost of living relief and further to my previous points, the media of course wanting this to be a circuit breaker for a government that the polls have been up and down on over the past of the while more negative than positive over the past two years. Well they did the spinning for the government.
The government will also ensure a million Australians avoid the full Medicare levees by increasing the threshold at which it's paid. It comes on top of a suite of cost of living measures.
There's been an extension of the electricity subsidies, there's been measures to make drug prices cheaper through the PBS, and the increases in bolk billing.
Well a pole came at today, not published by a far right wing think tank, but by the Turnbull Times, the Essential People. Now they find lots of different headlines to print, but you would think it would be somewhat relevant that an extreme majority of Australians were unimpressed by the federal budget just one week later. It's the reason why they don't talk about it anymore. But again the assumption of the national media is that you will be distracted by what they tell you is the priority of
the day. We'll have a look at this. Sixty one percent of people in a poll in the Guardian, so that the budget won't or definitely won't substantially change or make any meaningful difference to the cost of living. When you break that down, by the way, by party supporters forty eight percent of Labor voters, so that the budget did not make a difference to cost of living, sixty
seven of the Libs fifty two. But have a look at that number of everyone from the Victorian socialists, through the Tiffany Teels all the way to the Trumpeter patriots and our mates of one nation. Eighty percent. Now this is where apparently the majority of undecided voters are parking their vote in a poll. Eighty percent say the budget didn't make a difference. But of course you remember that the government says it and says it and says it, and then the media turns around and reports it and
reports it and reports it. But just as it was after the last budget, is it is after this budget. What I told you on this show a week ago was bang on, which is not a way of polishing my own credentials, but saying, ignore the Canbra collective. The Camebra collective plays for one game, and one game only, and that's access. And if they think that there's a chance that the current mob is going to hold on,
they won't rock the boat. If they think the current mob is on its way out, they do everything they can to throw them under the bus. So the Prime Minister, the Treasurer and all the rest of them might go on and on and on, and the media might repeat it over and over and over.
Jim Chalmers says these changes will mean that by midnext year, average Australians will be hundreds of dollars better off. Everybody gets a tax cut.
This is a pretty straight up and down sweetener.
It's worth five hundred and thirty six dollars a year for the average worker.
But while the road show moves on, Ozzie's have got a great BS detector. And when it comes to Alba and when it comes to Charmers, it goes off to eleven sixty one percent of people answering questions for the Essential Organization, which publishes in The Guardian, say that the budget no difference when it comes to their own sense of the cost of living, which means me again to more things in the polls that they probably don't want to talk about, because of course the narrative is Dunton's
in trouble, elbows back. The swagger around Parliament House was we're going to get a majority again because five bucks in one year. That'll keep the idiots happy. The media keep playing for access, they're not going to rock the boat. Well, you know what the current narrative is in the media, and it's pretty much what I just said.
Anthony Albanezi has seen a big jump in the polls, soaring upwards by seven points in the latest Resolve political monitor to Albanese now sets at forty two percent, while Opposition leader Peter Dutton has dropped to thirty three. Now a widened gap of nine points between the two leaders.
Labours arehead fifty one forty nine. That's a reversal from just a couple of weeks ago, and as well, Peter Dutton has slipped in the better prime minister numbers from voters. Anthony ALBINIZI now comfortably ahead there.
But of course just because they say it's the case doesn't mean that it is the case. And it's very interesting that the very people who are paid twenty four to seven. And I know I make a lot of enemies with this, but my loyalty is not to them. I don't play for the access of those in power. It's about you and me working our way through the spin, the garbage and the bs geez. I'd like to swear like I used to win the past, but you get
my point right, trying to clean up the act. Well, the reality is that Peter Dudden had a good night last night. Peter Dudden performed well inside that pub test, but of course don't report it because that's positive news for him. Instead report that the Prime Minister is already trying to pump the tires and scare everyone that he's not running against Peter Dudden, he's not running against his own series of failures of the past three years. And
I no, of course, he's running against Donald Trump. But isn't it amazing the very people who talk about the posts all the time and tell you the news of the polls each and every day can't be bothered to actually read the poles any deeper than the headline. Because if you have a look at the essential poll today again, in the Turble Times, there was all that stuff about the budget. None of them talked about it because they'd
all done the sales job. You see. Don't admit that the sales job was wrong, because last year it was that the tax cuts were awesome. We knew they were twelve dollars for people earning forty thousand dollars, more than sixty percent of people now saying it didn't actually touch
the sides. Yet that's what we knew. Well even further into these poles, same poles available today, freely available on internet, no special deal, no email you have to sign up to fifty two percent of people say that the country is headed in the wrong direction. I got this wrong. I apologize that the country is headed in the wrong direction. Just twenty percent say that it is on the right track, and undecided is sixteen. So I've got that the wrong
way around in graphics. I apologize, but that was the pole. Fifty two percent of people say we are hited in the wrong direction. Oh and those who think the Prime minister's got that pep in his step got a bit of the swagger back that he deserves because you know he's getting a second term. More seats already drawing up the political kill list, as was reported by Sharry Markson for those who worked with him during tough times. The Resolve poll, yes, the one that has shown a change
in preferred prime minister. But what about the overall ratings of the prime minister. Forty nine percent of people say poor very poor, thirty nine percent say good or very good. The restaurant decided. But even if you split those in half, guess what more than fifty percent of people would say the Prime Minister is doing a poor or very poor job. Don't talk about it, pretend that Dunton didn't have a
good night last night. Don't rock the boat, show the Prime Minister holding up the Medicare card despite the fact that there's more money being spent by the coalition. Pretend that Donald Trump is the story. Not see how the game gets played again. I don't have special access all of these poles, all all this information is publicly available.
But because they want the headline to tell the story, or they can't be asked reading the detail because it doesn't serve the overall narrative of elbows back, then they are deliberately hiding the true picture from you. Why I don't understand. Oh yeah, and on the same websitees freely available, and even in the very newspapers that print on news organizations.
I say, it's not just papers anymore. There are comments from people to the polsters that they don't report, like about Anthony Ambernezi and almost half the country thinking he's doing the wrong job, more than half the country thinking we're headed in the wrong direction. He's like an immature child. He gets all angry when he gets a question he doesn't like. Pathetic. We're all going to have to pay for the tax cut with interest, but it won't even
buy a coffee. He's not doing anything. The world is changing every day and he's sitting on his hands. He doesn't keep his election promises, like on energy, So what's the point. Small business has been bled dry by him. It's just layer and layer of cost and red tape. And again, I bet you didn't see this in all I mean think about all the time that there is to talk about Australian federal politics, even on the six
pm news, let alone all the other forums. I bet you didn't see this that the Labor Party's primary vote is still below where it was at the last election. The change of fifty one to forty nine is all about people guessing what's going to happen with preferences now. The Liberal vote not much different than the last election either. But what is very different than the last election is the one nation Number one nation's up by four points.
Pauline Hansen has said if if O one nation preference the LNP, that will matter not just in queens Land but in lots of states where one nation does a whole lot better. Oh yeah, and you know how they always say it's the Liberal Party that has a problem with women have a look at this. The primary vote of the Labor Party is higher with men than women, when the Liberal National Party their vote is higher with
women than the Labor vote. Yes, the Greens do better with women, as do One Nation, and it's dead level when it comes to independence. But again, no one's going to be talking about that, are they, because it disturbs
the narrative, and I hope it. Saw Peter Credline earlier today who did an excellent job of pointing out a bit of history here about where the polls were at the start of that twenty ten election, where they were at the start of that twenty nineteen election, and they are even wider rangers than what we're dealing with right now about fifty one forty nine or the other way around.
The media think they shape the election. The media think they are at their most powerful when they can do their bit for a government that in return will give them an inside track not just on how the Labor Party's doing when it comes to this election, but why would anyone believe modeling that is handed to you five minutes before a news bulletin about opposition policy. No, and this is the same people who lied about the energy stuff. Now I get it. Daniel Andrews, Anastasia Palachet and Anthony
Alberaneze will also who cares you win an election? All that matters is winning well. The reality is people remember how you win. Remember Paul Keating was dead in nineteen ninety six because of how he won in nineteen ninety three. And Albou might think that he's got the inside track right now, but there are a very very very many weeks and many events, and they may think, let's get
the debates out of the way early. The fundamentals, the fundamentals, to repeat what Peter said earlier tonight, have not changed cost of living number one. The government has not done enough to change it. And even a survey in left leaning newspapers is telling us that one other thing I have to mention here, which is the shadow of Trump. Now you know I've got the red hat. Listen to Steve Bannon at the blow. I'm a big fan, all right, but let's not muck around. The next couple of days
are going to be rough. If he decides to throw a tariff our way, we're going to be in a world of trouble. Now, how both thought the initial way to deal with Donald Trump was to suck up to him.
This morning, I had a constructive call with President Trump just under forty minutes, and we had a good discussion about the relationship between our two great nations. We've been working calmly and methodically and diplomatically as.
We do, but we all know what he really thinks of him.
We have an alliance with the US. We're going to deal with him, but that doesn't mean that you're uncritical about it. He's scared atad of me, and I think it's of some concern that the leader of the free world thinks that you can conduct politics through one hundred and forty characters on Twitter.
In the next twenty four hours, we will know whether Australia and what industries in Australia may well end up getting a tariff, whether we will or won't get an exemption. They have said friend and foe, so presumably as the friends of the United States will still cop one today in preparation for it. There was a couple of words from the President, but I was distracted by Kid Rock as well.
President Trump, would you ever worry a jacket like that?
I don't know. I was thinking about doing it for tomorrow. We have a big event coming up and I was thinking about doing it. So we'll all find out what's going to happen. But the one thing absolutely that Albo is hoping for the most, that the media will fall for the greatest, is that Donald Trump becomes the X factor in and around this election, that somehow the political fortunes of Anthony Abernezi shoots through the roof because he will be in an adversarial position to Donald Trump. We
will all find out now. For the record, of course, I think tariff's against our country are ridiculous. Of course they are unjustified, firstly because we import more from America than we export to America. And last time I checked, we just put eight hundred million dollars in their pocket when it comes to this orcus stuff. But they may well be big tariff news that happens by this time tomorrow.
Already every single minister tries to find some way to reference Trump, some way to pretend that they are running both equally against Peter Darden but also against Donald Trump. But are reminded of those of us that are Trump fans, that we are the minority in Australia. In fact, today there was some reporting again in the Channel nine newspapers and via their websites that was kind of shocking. And this was firstly about people's view about the presidential election.
This came out today, but of course it is about what happened in November of last year, which is Donald Trump was elected. Is a good or a bad outcome for Australia. Sixty percent of people say a bad outcome. Labor voters seventy percent, forty nine percent of Coalition voters, sixty three percent of other voters, and in marginal seats fifty eight percent of people say him being the president
is bad for Australia. There's also a whole series of issue by issue here where sixty percent sorry forty six percent of people say that Australia should pursue closer relations with other countries, including China, over the United States, that Australia should support Ukraine, whether that means troops or not sixty percent. And what about this threats to Australia. Thirty one percent of people say China is the biggest threat
to Australia over the next few years. Seventeen percent of people say the United States what about thirty eight percent of people saying all equally. That is frightening. Now, yes, taraffs make us all uncomfortable, But if you think the United States, not China, is the problem, this is frightening to see twenty six percent of labor voters say the US. That's more than the twenty two percent who say China.
The uncommitted voters twenty five percent say China. Thirteen percent of the United States and in the marginal seats thankfully they see China as the threat. But overall there are Australians amongst US who think the US, that Donald Trump is more of a danger than what the CCP is doing. I remind you right now in this country, the Chinese have a boat that's floating along the south of Australia. What it is doing it is mapping the cables. As Andrew Bolt has shown you in the past couple of days.
Inside that boat there could be a little submarine with the capacity to be able to cut one of those cables. Those are the cables that connect us to the rest of the world. Oh but Donald Trump's the threat. Albout desperately wants every day of the campaign not to be about him. What he promised three years ago, and how
he has failed for the past three years. The media playing for access, wanting to change your subject and not allowing Dutton to get at a first gear will do everything they can to give him what he wants, but of course they can't control you, how you vote and most importantly who your preference, because that really matters. Quick break back with more State of the Race special version Kroger versus Conroy, No holds barred ding Dan. Let's get
into it. Oh, let's get ready. Heavyweights, no gloves, no mouthguards, and all low blows are acceptable. None other than the wonderful Stephen Conroy normally hit help on a Wednesday. He's fighting on a Tuesday. Michael Kroger says, whatever, Pal, I've dusted this bloke off before. Let's see what happens again. Lad's love you to see you both.
Parent and Paul. We've carried Conry for years.
All right, Let's get into autis.
Try to make him look good.
All right now, in a second, I'm going to go through lists of seats that you're interested in all the rest of it. Let's talk five weeks out, four and a bit weeks out about the state of play and about where you honestly think things to be. You can take or leave what I just said at the start there that perhaps, surprise surprise, the budget wasn't what they all thought it was one week ago, surprise surprise, just like it always is. But it didn't matter to the media.
And even again, what the media did last night were the only reason they were at that thing with Peter Dutton was because they wanted a gaff or a protester. But if it's a good night, sh don't don't show any of it. Michael whiter than that start of the race? What do you feel right now?
So, first of all, well done last night. I thought that was a brilliant piece of television and I thought Peter Dutton was superb and great job by you mate. What is the start of the race?
Okay?
So the state of race is this. Between the middle of February and the end of March, Peter Dutton lost ground. They had lost momentum. Carloms too sure in the last couple of days he's now picked up that momentum. Why because he's making big announcements. The momentum is now back with Dutton. This will take days and a week or so to figure into the polling. The momentum is now back with Peter Dutton. He looks more aggressive, more energized.
You know, he's full of big announcements. On the other hand, Albow, who's not a good campaigner, seems very placid, almost sleepy. He's got to stop doing these Medicare announcements because people are thinking five days, you've had five announcements in front of the Medicare sign. People are saying to it, Malbow, Medicare is not under threat. It's not going to be gutted. Mate, get out and meet some real people, make some real announcements.
But as I said the other week, mate, Albow's problem is there are so many topics he cannot go near. The only topics he can really go near a Medicare and Trump. He can't go near immigration, cost of living, power prices, Jewish community, crime, safety, housing, young people. The list goes on and on. He'll be a very short visit with the Victorian Premier to morrow, if she appears at all. Chris Bowen's disappeared. There's so much he can't do. So what does you do every day it's in front
of the Medicare sign. He's been doing this for five days. He's got to stop this. People are saying, this guy's got nothing to announce. Well, so his problem is that doesn't have to be much in his locker. There seems to be a lot in Peter Dutton's locker, and the momentum is now back with Peter Dutton.
It is interesting, by the way, when we talk about the leaders right South Australia, I think Melanowskus has an approval preferred premium eighty five percent, right, So he's hoping a little bit of Melanowskus dust falls his way. But in Victoria he wants to be as far away from justinto Allen as possible, and we know that Chrismins shows him up when he gets to New South Wales. But Stephen, we're not going to deny where the bookies are, where
the poles are, all the rest of it. But the full picture of the polls and especially that failed the land when it comes to the budget is a little sober. Reminded all those people who were saying in around the corridors of Labor we're not just back, we could win ninety seats.
Well, I think that's that's getting a little ambitious. I think I can't remember the last budgets delivered by the political party they've seen any significant bounce in the polling that's followed over the next couple of weeks. So I wasn't expecting this budget to be any different to the
last ten or twelve. What has Michael mentioned a little bit, I mean agrew with Michael's analysis on substance, and I think at times in a parallel universe to Michael and some of his analysis of what's actually gone on in the campaign so far. Peter Dutton has had probably is worse. And I've admired his ability to keep the Liberal Party together. That is an incredible achievement in the first term after you lose, and.
He's performed well.
But about the last four weeks he's just had a few stumbles and fumbles and looks like he's a bit down on confidence.
Now.
I think he will he'll come back during the campaigns to Michael's point, he will make some announcements and they will get him a little bit more traction. But I think it's undeniable to anybody observing that Peter Dutton's had a pretty.
Rough four weeks.
Albo Albo, who has been accused of as Michael just did, of being you know, looking like he's in retirement mode. Albow's actually had his best few weeks, coinciding with Dutton struggling a little bit.
And so.
If you were asking what seat number would I pick today, I probably put Labor on seventy two, maybe seventy three, depending on a couple of seats are just too hard to call, which would mean they were form minority governments. So that's I know, we're going to talk about seats at length, and this will be the most complex election night. I mean, Tom Connell will be right across it, so to all your views out there, tune in. Tom Connell
will be on top of this. I know other channels have got spookers, but watched Tom Connall on election night. He will be dissecting seats going in four or five different directions. And this is going to be a real challenge for those of us who FOLLOWUPOLO. It's not going to be a normal election night.
Yeah, bloody oath. And not to mention again the complexity all the way from North Queensland Tasmania. And we know, of course the game out west, which is that conversation about you know, if it's a relatively good nine, if things weren't as bad in Victoria, is it seventy seventy one, seventy two or the other way around all of that. Of course, we learn together, but let's also just be adults and have the adult conversation with everyone watching. What's
the greatest worry you have for your side? Though, Stephen, Look, I.
Think albow in the last campaign had a really bad first week. He was don off with COVID for a week, and then he built momentum after that, so he just needs to stay match fit. I think he's absolutely had a very good few days. I'm going to disagree strongly with Michael, so I think that this is an election campaign for the first time and probably five six seven election campaigns where the performance of the leaders during the
campaign is going to be a critical factor. So we need our Bo to keep going like he's had so far, because that's been high quality, and he's looking like he's engaged, he's looking like he's got a little bit of passion, and I think he's come out of a blox, whereas I think Peter has just had a bit of a fumble in the blocks. I absolutely accept I think he'll he'll pick up and come through and those poles will tighten. I mean, any Labor voters out there, do not for
a moment that complacent. The polls will tighten as they always do during the election campaign.
Michael, you'll worry for your team.
Look, my biggest fear is that labor will try and do Daniel Andrews, which is what Andrews did at the eighteen and twenty two state elections here in Victoria. He didn't care what effect it had on the budget. He just threw billions at suburban rail link and whatever else, plundered Victoria into an economic crisis. But he won the two elections. Now he's gone. He'll take just In Ellan
down with him, but he's bankrupted Victoria. So the biggest worries that Albo says, Listen, I'm going to fall behind in the polls, which is about to I need to win. I'm not going to be labeled as the first prime minister in ninety years. Blah blah blah blah blah. I don't care what it costs. I'm going to bring dental into medicare, so across the nation, everyone's dental is covered by your Medicare card, to which people will say, Albo, that's going to cost tens of billions a year. You
can't be serious. And he will just say I'm doing it anyway, or I'm doing it for everyone up to thirty or everyone over forty, or or something right, some big, outrageous economic policy, because more people will be keen on voting for that than are worried about the debt. So that's my biggest worry that he just basically says, so I'm going to blow the budget. I don't give a stuff.
Well, the People's Forum it will be next Tuesday here on Sky News. So what a week that's been. We're a week ago. It's the budget. We had the pub test last night. People's Forum, the first and currently only confirmed a confrontation between the two leaders, not involving, of course, the smart arsery of the media, but normal people asking whatever they want. Karen Gilbert explains how it's all been put together and who will pick the audience.
Sky News has secured the first leader's debate of campaign twenty twenty five, the Sky News Daily Telegraph People's Forum. It's going to be seven thirty pm Tuesday, April eight. Make sure you join us, will be live from Western Sydney. A key moment in the campaign, Anthony Alberizi head to head with Peter Dutton, the first time the two leaders will debate in this campaign. And well before people start voting.
Now, lads, we'll go through seats. We'll talk about the Trump effect in a moment. But I wanted to tell you about my experience in the seat of Groom, which is the seat surrounding to Woomba. Guth Hamilton is their local MP. Good bloke, always been kind to us, did very well at the last election. But of course he's being hunted by a teal. This one thinks they're going to get him this time. They're out there telling all
in Sundry it's a marginal seat. Someone might want to tell either the bookies or the modelers or the people actually know what they're talking about. Now. Of course, you blokes know there is a difference between a pub test, which is overtly political, and the outtown, which is the celebration of a local area. Okay, well, the first time we heard from this teal of Community Independent was of course, I think, only on Friday, right, because they demanded to
be on the show. They thought this was a forum that was going to be delivered as a free kick to the liberal MP. The only problem was it was a celebration of to Woomba, so they decided to turn it into a thing. And this is sort of stalking, but I'll show it to you anyway.
So grat we're trying to track down Paul Murray.
It's a bit like the Scarlet Pimpernel.
He's seeking here, we're seeking there, and we just.
Need to put an independent point of view to it.
One hundred percent agree with that independent point of view.
So we try to track him down where we thought he'd be a jellatissimo.
Yep. So let's try Harvey Norman where we've got a tip that he's out there.
Here we go bring it on.
Firstly, can't use a phone. Secondly, Gelasis was in the CBD of toa Womba and we were there for an hour. We were at having on them for two and a half hours, and she couldn't find us or Michael. She didn't want to find us and just wanted it to seem like we had somehow cut her out of what wasn't a political show. This is how the Teals play their game all the time.
Mate, I've got to think that the Teal votes off a bit. I mean, it's nothing like the environment in twenty twenty two. Nothing like that environment. All the Teal issues of integrity, Commission, global warming, etc. Women's issues, none of those are playing in this election. The Teals had a couple of well publicized slip ups in the seat of Couyong, where I have to think it's hard for
Manik Ryan to hold on now. I mean she's been favored all the way through because Teals normally increase their vote, but giving the disgusting, dirty, dirty campaign that the people around her are running to her husband, I think it's hard for her to it. I think it's hard for people to vote for my neck Ryan. And then you go to Bradfield where the Teal candidate in the hairdressing Saline made that horrific remark to that nine year old girl.
You've got all these Teals that have voted with it, assigned that unrefunding letter, you know, profoundly ignorant, calling on the government. I've going to store funding to organization or riddle with terrorists, blah blah blah. Yeah, all right, I think the til votes off.
Look, I know I'm feeding the trolls, but still that's the true story. They had a lot of time to find us, and they couldn't find us. And I'm hardly a needle in a haystack. All right, quick break back with more here on Paul Murray Live, the Seats that Matter and the specter of Trump War in a second. All right, boys, speed round time looking at the wrong camera. It's been a long day, a long day even't lost my laptop at the airport. Anyway, let's get back to it.
Stephen Conroy is here. They're looking so it's easy for them. Just looks into one camera. I get confused by seven different ones that are here. All right, let's go through. You'll your target seats here. Let's do a speed round on this, Michael, for those that want to write things down. Obviously not to seat boy seat bedding, but give me an idea of what you're looking at.
So I think Peter Dunnan's in front of fifteen seats. I've got him on seventy two, twelve of those of labor. So i've got albow one sixty six. I think it doesn't wins three in West Australia, one in South Australia, one of the Northern Territory, one in Tasmania, four in New South Wales, at least three in Victoria and two in Queensland. Victoria. I'm saying three, but I'm actually thinking it's quite a few more than that.
But I You've been wrong so many times.
I was wrong. I was wrong when Henry the eighth was King of England. The last time.
All right, Steve and I got one minute.
You say we're going to win six in Victoria, all right.
Give me yours, mattos see you write this stuff down, yep.
So in New South Wales you know these are possible, not guarantee, but possible. Labour losses could be Gilmore, Robinson, Patterson. Benelong's been redistributed by a tiny margin to a lib, so it technically falls into a loss. You've got Lyn Jarry, which Michael mentioned in West Australia, Tangny and Bullwinkle Tasmania Lions.
Then in Victoria and I don't think it will be anything like this, but you can have McNamara, chisholm Aston mcure and Wills, Bruce Dunkley, Holt Hawk kore Anga mate, give you a long list which shows that victory by Elbows Victoria is the state that will determine its election. Possible Labour games sturt like Art Brisbane, Griffith Ryan and
possibly Fouler from the independence in New South Wales. So you see Dunton's task to get it even past seventy becomes incredibly much more difficult if Labor wins two or three seats, because that means he's got to win four or six seats to match the ones that we've won. So it is a very very challenging night. I've said, watch Tom Connell. But this is still very much in the balance. There's a lot to play out in these four weeks.
All right, lads, thank you very much. The Jason Woods stuff, I point you to what Andrew Bolt said tonight, disgraceful stuff that happened with him and everyone else is going to talk about Trump for the next twenty four hours. But I've told you Elbow's desperate for those tariffs because he thinks that wins him in the election. Lord wait, watching Seed together more than a sec here on Sky News with the late to back
