Patriots Postgame Show 9/10: Takeaways from loss to Eagles, Tom Brady Halftime Ceremony

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Here's Hardy Now. The Patriots dropped their regular season opener at Chalted Stadium twenty five to twenty in a game that looked like it was over a couple of times in the fourth quarter, but it did come down to the final moments. Welcome into this episode of the Patriots Postgame Show, presented by Draft Kings, joined by Mike d

Sorry, halfway done right?

I thought that game was over three times, so did I. That is that? That is some kind of finish And it's the It's the type of game if you if you go away or in my case, I've got a little bit of a walk as you guys do, to get down here, missed two pivotal plays. I had to go back and find and watch them again. I'm like, what, what what? What happened? There was a there was a touchdown, there was a there was a failed two point conversion. Oh, they got a chance of the two point conversion.

Yeah.

I just ran into Christian Fourier out there, who was busy running around doing stuff. He said, I said something about the fourth and three call. He said, what fourth and three call? I said, they went for it on fourth and three when a field goal would have made a yeah, a five point game, And he's like, I didn't even see it. I'm like, I know if you if you walked away, if you blinked in the fourth quarter, you missed three or four pivotal moments in that game.

Yeah, it's uh, you know, I mean first it's like I'm trying to write something, so it's like, you know, going back and forth. But you know, I give I look, I give them a lot of credit. Like I think when when they went down sixteen to nothing, it was.

Like, oh my god, this is going to be bad today.

You know, it's just the pick six right off the bat, the fumble. I mean, it was just it was ugly. But you know, I think they showed some resiliency, and you know, I was I was impressed with certain elements on both sides of the ball. You know, I still think they need to figure out how to start games better and to clearly finish games better. But I saw some signs of life today that I don't think I saw at all from that team last year.

I mean, there were three three and outs at midfield. They were given short fields to work with and back to back three and outs. There was another one not long after that. I think that maybe have bled into the second quarter. But you're like, okay, well, you know, offensively, this isn't just going to be going you know, working tonight. At that point, you're hoping it's sixteen nothing, that the defense is just going to be able to stop the

I tell you, Hardy with Brady in the house, you know, with the Peppers turnover and then the fourth down stop, I mean, they got two opportunities. I thought, I for I'm like, they're gonna win this game like it's just it's it seemed like it was all lining up for it to happen. And you'll clearly they haven't taken that that step yet. But but some nice games today from a number of guys. Disappointing to lose, and certainly some elements to talk about, but but I come away with

Paul, your initial thoughts, I know there's a lot that happened in the last lot, in the last time, I'm going to say last half, fourth quarter.

Everybody that listens to this show knows me, because I don't know if you know, but I might have mentioned it in the pregame show. I've been here about twenty four years, even though no one knows how to spell my name. I'm not big into moral victories. I'm not big into and I'm not calling this a moral victory or anything like that. We were talking a lot down the stretch of this game, and it's like, we've seen this before, we've seen this before, and I was sort

Now.

I'm sure people in Philadelphia say, ah, you know they they jumped out to the lead, it's rained. You know, they took the foot off to get bull bull. I think this was different than what I've seen from the Patriots and the post Brady era. I'm not again, I don't want to come off as polyanniish like this is. Oh look at these Patriots dot com guys talking about, you know, all the great things. I thought the Patriots showed a lot of toughness today, and I thought they

All right, let's let's get to our good, the bad, and the injured. Here we go. Now it's time for the good.

Pretty good, they pretty good, The bad.

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Tonight as the Patriots lose to the Eagles here at your let's stadium in twenty five twenty. I don't know how you want to do this, how you want to go. If you want to go just in what's top of your head chronologically deuce, Yeah, just go for it, you first, good Mac mac Jones, here you go, kid.

You know, I just I just caught a highlight on one of the other shows. But I'm sure we're going to show it here in a second with the Kendrick Borne touchdown. But uh, you know, the first pick obviously off his hand, high throw. I think the first couple of throws were high, and I think he can doc Mack a little bit for that, but otherwise some of

You know, he did those things. You know it It wasn't perfect.

But I came away from this game, you know, just kind of reinvigorated about mac Jones and his and his potential within this offense. I think, you know, he showed a lot today, a lot of toughness. I mean that we talked all week about the defensive front. We know what he was dealing with with his offensive line. I mean, you know, that's another another conversation, but one sack. I mean, I think Mac deserves some credit getting the offense in

So I tip my hap to him, you know.

Unfortunately it came in a losing effort, but a real nice game from Mac Jones, one of the best that I can remember in recent memory.

Unfortunately in a losing effort.

Though, Boss man Fred Kirsch joining us, Now, do you have any initial thoughts before we get further into the good list, For I want to give you every opportunity to speak. It's important to me to hear your thoughts. Well.

No, I mean, he's not the best, and I think there's a lot to build on. I think there's signs of hope for the offense. For sure, they're not quite there yet. I mean, you can't play thirty minutes of football, you got to play sixty minutes. But I think, you know, there were there were plays there that Mac made. I think the O line for what you know, how it's constituted pass protected pretty well throughout except toward the end. But throughout the game they did pretty well. Not a

Paul, your first good is it defense related by any chance?

No, my first good will be something Fred just touched on pass protection and it listen, it was all game plan related. They got the ball out of Mac Jones's hands, you know, enlightening quick for the most part. They only tried two or three balls downfield the entire game, and that was I think by design, because they knew they wouldn't hold up. And Fred, you said that it you know maybe toward the end. Well, that's the difference is you have to get desperate and you have to make

They didn't have a sack until the to the game.

Yeah, But I mean there was pressure, you know at times, but it wasn't like it wasn't like he was under siege. They didn't score because they couldn't execute often enough to finish the drives. And it wasn't on the offensive line.

I think just to complement your point as it, you know, a couple of times when they did have some traffic around Mac, I thought Mac did a good job of, you know, staying focused, staying downfield. He wasn't bailing, he wasn't you know, sometimes just taking sacks like he like he would last year.

So I think it's all tied together. But yeah, I agree, nice job.

Yeah, And and as good as the defense played tonight, my first good there were there were two series in a row.

Which focus on the Titans. Now you know that right.

Oh and by the way, it went five for five to that.

Sorry I had to throw that in.

I just kidding, don't still baits basking in the Lions went.

I am a little bit a little bit, a little bit as ugly as that was, they were back to back series for the offense. Toward the end of the second quarter there with you know, spreading the ball around Giseki, Juju, Smith, Schuster, Douglas Montgomery there, they all had receptions there, uh, the Hunter Henry touchdown that made it sixteen seven. You're like, okay,

What else we got KB two touchdowns?

Yeah, you know, I think all summer long we said he had a real good year. He seemed like he was, you know, reinvigorated by you know, just last year. He didn't feel like it a great year. Came in in great shape, was productive in training camp. You know, had some tough catches today, some real nice catching runs. So it's you know, kind of coming to fruition a little. I know, people, you know, last year was kind of somewhat of a joke, like you know, banging the KB drum.

Uh.

And so hopefully we can continue to see more from Bourne. They needed him today and he came through.

So we've got we've got a binky race going on. Who's going to become Mac Jones is binky And right now it's a three way race between Borne, Stevenson and Hunter Henry. Those those are the three.

I think it's born. Eleven targets, Yeah, spoke double with anybody else. I think it's born.

Yeah.

That that Hunter Henry catch though on the fourth and eighth.

Great catch that we're gonna get to that later. That's that's yep. Yeah. I mean what you know, I was gonna mention Bourne as well. I like the fact that, you know, Douglas showed up. I you know, people thought I read think Douglas. You know, uh, Patri's gonna look for Douglas to have a big game. Well that would be ridiculous. You know, his first NFL game. You know you're relying on him to have a big game. I was just hoping that he showed up a couple of times.

And he did so I was I thought he was excellent.

Yeah, I was very pleased with what he did.

You know, he looked like he might have not been where he was supposed to be a couple of times, like and again, third year quarterback, when the throw goes in the direction of a guy and it's nowhere near where the guy, I'm going to put that on the receiver. But I agree with Fred. Seven catches, I mean, I'm sorry, seven targets, four catches for forty yards didn't look out of place at all. Yeah, I thought it was a solid debut.

So, you know, just overall again, I you know, I don't want to just keep repeating myself, but I think there's a lot to build on from the offense. You can see that they they might have an offense here, yep, and it might like you know, that first time early in the first half, that first drive they had, they were mixing it up really well. You know, you could see the effects of Bill O'Brien clearly in how they were calling plays, the type of plays they were calling.

Yeah, is the striking to me just looking at the targets comparing to the two teams. I mean, we know Brown and Smith are the main two guys. You know, both of them had ten targets, but after that it's nobody game. Well had four and then it's like two to one two one, you know, the Patriots have I mean seven seven, seven, six, six, eleven.

I mean, that's a difference to four times as supposed to be thirty three.

But but just showing that they're they're not locked into you know, it's it's the ability to get to what you have.

I mean, right now, I'd rather have the ability to move.

I mean, I'll take Brown and Smith absolutely. I mean, we can save that for Tuesday and we'll get into that.

That's right. I get what you're saying.

I'm just my point is that it's not like Mac has three guys to throw two and he doesn't know what the hell else to do with the ball. He feels comfortable throwing all these guys, And for me, this is an offense that was completely torn down to the studs last year, and they don't know who they are they get out there tonight. I mean, I think that there as much as we are being like what are we gonna expect tonight?

Who are we?

And I think that they can take what they can't what they did tonight and start to build on that and get to the team that can score a touchdown time.

I do.

And I think there was fight in the team. I think, you know, I think the Eagles played a little safe at the end there, but I think that I think there was I don't think they went for no I know that I'm talking about the calls that they played. You know, yeah, the play calling was a little bit safe, but I think you know, the big hit by.

Peppers, you know, that was like don't talk about him.

I mean that was but that was like the Braidy the Brady like game that you need that play by the defense. They come up with it and then the Patriots go down and take advantage of it. That they just didn't finish it, but it was right there for the taking. It was right there. And I know we'll hear Bill a little later. He was second guest on not going for those three.

It's just like when one fell swooped like it absolutely all right, all right, stick, we'll stick to the good.

Oh I still have a.

Lot of good.

I got a lot of good.

Yeah, Fred's not going to kill my bus. You talked about the defense a little bit, right, and the offense started off good like that when they're down sixteen to nothing and to force I believe four three and outs in a row. The run fits like improved right away. I thought they had a little pressure defensively early on good coverage. I thought the coverage was tight. I just

I started for the first time, and I was sitting up there, you know, with Evan and I think we were all kind of expecting last year, which was that, Yeah, the defense played great in the middle of the game, but here it is, we're coming down to the end.

They're not going to get that last stop that they need.

That.

I mean, that's where my head was at. And then Peppers forced the fumble. They get the fourth down stop you know in the midfield.

I know they had some help, but.

Still right about them even the fumble, Like you need to stop what happened. First play, rips it up the middle for the eight yards and now Peppers knocks the ball out. Yeah, they were easily going to get a drive started there. But yeah, gave by Peppers like that deserves its own.

Let's just put him on the good right now, Peppers, I'll do it. I'm just gonna jump the gun. But you know, not only that hit, but also the plane coverage where he got over Frank mccordy like and he's right, yeah, so I thought he, I mean god, he must have played close to every snap.

I thought Peppers was out there the whole time. But but active and well, that's a better look. I didn't get that good of a look at it. Thanks, guys.

That's at those guys played well today under a first circumstances.

Once again, our TD is on top of it always.

No, it's just and I apologize because I was looking something up. I don't know if you guys mentioned it. There was a Peppers he jammed somebody off the line. It was was Golbert or Goddard. Excuse me that he looked like he cracked him in the ribs. He kind of got like a shoulder up underneath him, kind of spun him.

Did you that would check out?

I didn't see that one.

He definitely would check out, did you guys gave him a little one too. I love it the body.

He just spun them it and you could tell that he wasn't expecting it and and and it really threw him off. Now he ended up do them.

Yeah, he didn't have it, and Goddard was Goddard had only targeted once the whole game.

Yeah, and he didn't have He didn't have any receptions tonight. But and I was a lot I think he but I think he was. I think he sat out like two plays after that. I'm like, look at your brail out there.

There was like doing some damage. There was like two plays in a row, and Mike goes, oh god, it's all I know.

That's something I gotta look at because I'm not sure. I think the Eagles are killing themselves with a couple of those plays, because it.

Just seemed like he was kind of like it was shocked.

But I think the Patriots made them look that way, like unlike Cincinnati, you know, as an example of a game that was kind of like this, they could have stolen it at the end and then they fumbled, but Cincinnati like dominated the game. The Patriots, I thought, all played Philadelphia today.

Yeah, before we get to your next good, just like, yeah, an overall defensive good. I was expecting Hurts to kind of have almost almost like a like we saw the other night from Kansas City. I thought if he had a Mahomes like night where he wasn't that good, but Mahomes would get loose and you know, pick up, you know, there's ten twelve yards, just kind of like I thought, Yeah,

Six rushing nine Yeah, but hep he kept sliding like on designed runs.

I don't think he wanted much to do with the Patriots defense tonight. And and again, credit to the downfield coverage, you know, that's first and foremost when he got his receivers to deal with.

But there was one play, there was a third and three late where he scrambled like you're talking about Hardy, yeah, and he realized, I gotta I gotta put my shoulder down and I got to get the first down and he did, and he ended up getting like six yards on third and three. Other than that, every time he it's I think it's probably something they've really talked about all off season. He got hurt running the ball league last season.

Don't take a necessary shot.

Maybe that's it.

Maybe like a live runner, I would say four or five times today and just gave up the play when there were more yards.

To be gained.

Noye couple. Yeah, they weren't gonna be big plays, but it was a concerted effort. I'm not taking a hit here if I don't need to, Okay, So maybe I'm giving credit word No, I'm giving credit to the Patriots defense. I agree with you. I think they and you know, and you talking about the difference between a three yard gain and a five yard game, not the difference between a twenty yard game that they slid on.

We all saw the numbers at the start of the fourth quarter. I think they had ninety some passing yard in another ninety rushing yards. Like they've moved the ball.

Listen, the defense gave up eighteen points today, I'll take it.

Yeah.

I mean we had two hundred and fifty yards of offense.

Yeah.

Yeah, And now I know that that's a little deceptive because you had a seventy yard pick six that you don't get the possession of it. Two hundred and fifty yards is really good defense, really good defense.

It is all right, dude, what do you got?

Gone's out?

Yeah, great, one out?

Uh yeah.

Just he was he was really good tonight. I think as a big part of the past defense. I mean I just, uh, I'm kind of surprised, to be honest, I wasn't, you know, kind of expecting him to. I mean, he's just he's we were concerned about his physicality, and I just think he's continuing to kind of show up and you know, getting.

His nose in there. It's he's not an overpowering guy.

But I think he just showed his athleticism that that pass defense he had there, uh near the end of the game was was a big play.

So yeah, self, as Sackat had, I had him on the list for the for the past defense with the game on the line. I'd be curious to see what the experts twos have him graded. Because Mike mentioned the two guys, I mean they both cut seven out of the ten balls thrown to them. So and I don't know how great I mean, especially Brown, he was what I thought was a problem he was.

He was a little soft in his coverage. I mean, I think he's got good makeup speed, but the makeup speed that you had in college you need a little bit more in the NFL. These guys are faster than who you covered in college. And I think he saw that. I think he's learning every game. But the play, I'm good. I'm good with him.

Fourth and two, that's just a great play diving to to break up that pass intended for Devonte Smith.

And that was a good throw too, that was right on target.

Uh.

In the games online, you give up that completion, game's over. You know, you don't get even get that last gas chance. So yeah, I agree with Mike. Gonzo was was strongly on my good list.

Kind of crazy they blitzed him out of the slot though, Like even that just feels.

Like if we get this kind of a setup and they go there split Ye, I don't know, he's active, Yeah, he was active.

Fred any other goods just watching Gonzo on the screen.

Paul, Okay, Well, I think we're at the point where we just sort of wrap him up, right. Sure, I thought two big returns. You had a big kickoff return for Time Montgomery forty forty three yards forty something yards, and then a big one for Marcus Jones. Now it went downhill after that. Special teams wise, but I thought though they gave him a lift. Unfortunately, the offense was really bad for the first quarter and a half and they didn't get anything out of it.

What's Montgomery's numbers?

Montgomery?

Really, He's got one carry for seven yards and then he had two catches for nine yards.

Three targets, so now not a.

Lot, but the returners just glad to see him out there.

Yeah.

I didn't get hit, you know, Yeah.

That we know of.

I just want to make sure Hunter Henry gets special

They had one of the fourth down catches, right, the one hander is that?

That was the fourth and eight?

Yeah.

Yeah.

He also had a bad call against him hunting.

Yeah, that was a cheesy holding car.

There were a couple of Now, Zoe says, the ref got it wrong. It was actually in Farrell Brown. Oh okay, and they called Hunter.

Henry all right, all off of that because that was a yeah, no, there wasn't and but even I didn't think it was the one hand. I didn't think there was a chop block on the Eagles too.

On that why.

I thought the guy was coming in motion and tripped and fell.

That's a good catch.

Right there.

But this is a great catch and this is another one for all right, we'll get to that in a second. I guess it almost looked like he was gonna stop, and Mac kind of thought, was not a good throw and uh, just great concentration by Hunter Henry to come up with that wasn't a good Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't. But I thought, overall, I agree with with you guys, Yeah on Hunter Henry. Let's yeah, I think that's about it.

Just the start to the game, you know, just coming on, and I mean I think some of it was related to the weather, you know, with the ball slipping through Bourne's hands, but you just you can't start the first two possessions of the game with a pick six and then a fumble. I mean, and that's you know, just

Yeah, one of the you know, and one of the first plays after Hurts fumbled. I don't know if it was a bad snap or if you just fumble the snap, or like, oh, okay, jump right on it. Oh we got an offside call? You know this that you know that factors into the start of the game. It wasn't just you know, the offense dragon. It was one of the things we really talked about in the pre game.

It's a really good point because and that's why I like the way Mike said, like just the start. Yes, that was like the second play of the game. We get a neutral zone in fraction lined up in the neutral zone, you know, and that could have been you know, you're probably gonna get a punt there, it's gonna be now, it's gonna be third and fifteen. Instead it's first down, and they put a drive together, went right down the field and you were kind of fortunate to hold him

First down success failure.

That's what you get for argument, because he keeps receipts, especially on the goods that he's selling it.

It was something we talked about in the pregame. I was like, Okay, let's see if it comes to fruition.

I don't know, you come in here, start talking about third downs. I just want to know about the first downs.

Legitimate Patriots offensive start on first down two yards, then nine yards, five yards, and that was the those resulting in they got better and then zero yards fumble, and then four yards minus one yard, three yard minus two yard. No wonder, they were scoreless, like with four minutes left in the first half, like they couldn't get the ball moving.

What's the first thing that's gonna bug you about this game when you think about it tomorrow, Fred, The first bad thing on your list what's gonna bug you?

Well, I think the pick six, you know, just that just the mistakes early.

Yeah, the Eagles had had their hands on a lot of passes today. They only caught one, but they could have had four.

I don't know if it's I don't know if I'm right to have this bug me as much as it does the decision to go for it on fourth and three instead of kicking the field.

Okay, so are we going to get into that?

My big my biggest bat of the day is Bill Belichick. I thought he coached a situationally poor game, and I think that's the first play that you start with.

Okay, well, I mean we don't have to go chronologically here. We might as well get into it. If it's going to be on the is it going to be on the battles.

For all of it?

Or do you agree with the gay?

Yeah? See, I think you can go. I could have gone either way on that one, Like I can make the argument for either side, like by not going you know, if you get the field goal, you're still going to need a touchdown. You know we're down It is because you would have been down five.

But you lost if you kicked the field goal. You could have kicked the field goal won the game.

If if, if things work out. But if you if everything is equal, you kick the field goal, you're still going to get a touchdown. If you miss the field goal, you're still going to need a touchdown.

You know, right.

And then with the way they did it, you needed two scores. You needed a touchdown in another.

Quest because they ended up because they didn't hold them exactly right.

But you put it so if the other team scores, I'm down two scores with five, right, but I now need a miracle. But I almost got it.

No by not by not by not going by going for it and not getting it. You're still down by eight, So you need you need to get the ball back, and you need to score a touchdown with a two point conversion, you know, if you if you get if you go for the field goal, you're down five, you still need a touchdown.

Okay, But if everything plays out exactly the same, a field goal wins the game.

Yeah, at the end, that's all in hindsight, I mean in high sight.

I don't think it's hindsight at all. I think so Fred's theory. Okay, so you're still down five, Yeah, Now I don't have to be perfect. I can. I can give up a drive, I can give up a field goal and still only be down a touchdown. The way he did it, I had to be perfect. I had to get the ball score immediately, get a three and our re turnover. They got a turnover on the first play, and they still couldn't win the game, right because they were chasing two scores. Yeah, all because you didn't kick

Yeah, I'm kind of with you there, it was. It was a little too far out, but then kicked.

You got this.

You kept this guy weapon exactly exactly what what if if that's not going to be what he's here for? You should have kept full And I'll say I.

Went better at the end of the game. I would have punted on fourth and seventeen. Certainly after the after the delay game, I would have punted. Yeah, see, it pinned them down.

I'm more like they should have gone for that fifty three yarder. Yeah, you know.

And by the way, Paul, delay a game, you can you can accept that because they didn't have any time all they had.

Three three times, But you can't waste one.

But go back to the fifty three yarder. I mean, it's game, it's week one. You got a new kicker, get him in there right away to give him that experience, right, And we didn't even think of that. But I like that.

I totally agree for That's just what I was thinking about.

It's like, you got a rookie here, you got so many of these new guys, you got so many new guys involved that. I mean, I just I rubber stamp everything Paul said about just understanding who this offense is, Like had this been last year, was playing right, how this field, how they were last year, this field goal, You're not going to be back in this position basically.

So I know it's not technically by the letter of the law, but they basically forced two turnovers on the last two possessions of the game and still lost well because they put themselves intentionally in a situation where they were going to need to chase two scores. Oh, you just said it.

I don't need hindsight to because that was my thought at the time. I said you should take the three here on the fourth and three because of what Paul just said, the way your defense was playing you take three points, you may you get yourself within five, Go get a stop and then see what happened.

There's other situations. What's less than that. Yeah, I'm I'm with you one hundred percent. I understand Fred's point. I think Fred makes the counter argument. That's the logical counter argument. I disagree with it, but a lot of people disagree, and I know what Fred's saying. We talked about it live during the game the four of us, Evan was with us.

People in the blog were all, go for the points, go for the points.

I also think when they scored the touchdown to make it what was it, twenty five twenty they scored a touchdown it they scored the last touchdown on the game. Right, Yeah, they went, they went, and they went, they went for two. I'm not mistaking fling. And then right quickly after that touchdown, he squip kicked and gave him the ball to twenty seven.

Yeah.

Sort, I can't understand that either.

You correct, they were looking for a turnover, Well.

They were looking to see if they do something stupid, they get them pinned down, then you have a chance on fourth and seventeen for midfield to pin them down, and you go for it. Like I don't understand. I don't I don't get it. It's the bill cost them a chance to win that game down the stretch with some very questionable decisions.

Okay, we got into fourth and three. It didn't take over the entire show. Now we can move on other things on the bad list.

By the way, it's a very fancy shirt you have on.

Thank you very much, thank you.

No, I mean, it's it's hard to know what we've covered because I know, like you know, third downs and you know, it's hard to I don't know.

I don't have any other I.

Would say penalties, those two hold the two holding calls, and especially if you're telling me it was supposed to be one of those was on Pharaoh Brown.

Well that's what Zoe said, Okay, I know what I mean.

If all people, yeah, you know, he would he would be he would be bitching about it if yeah, if it wasn't that way. But those that was a good drive they had going in the third quarter, and it self destructive because the two holding calls, you know, the just penalties at inopportunity times. They were very sloppy. Today. It was a Week one game. Both teams were pretty sloppy.

Yeah, well they look around the NFL.

There's a lot of bad football.

Yeah.

Evidently Miami and the Chargers played one of the very few games that was a shootout. They won that game thirty six thirty four.

Oh boy, good way. So they'll go in with, you know, thinking, smelling themselves and we'll wax them next week. Is that what we That is that where we are.

If we arrived at the point where we hope the other team is smelling itself so you can win.

We're gonna wax them.

Okay, by the way, ikay, I just double checked because I watched the replay. I'm not sure that the call was fantastic on Pharaoh Brown, but it was absolutely eighty six. Yeah, that's what And that's why they got the numbers screwed up. And when I when I just watched it once on the replay, I'm like, I think that's it. Yes, I double checked it. We can decide later if it was a good holding call or not. But it definitely wasn't a hunter Henry, that's sure.

And the other one was blatant.

Yeah, the other one was he turned to the ground.

I saw that one live tapped him. From behind.

You should you should have been another one on that Mac Jones run late in the game. Yeah, you should teach a defensive lineman if you if that arms around your neck, go down to the ground because they'll call it every time.

I'm sorry, real quick before we get too far away from it. Deduce your prospex. But you mentioned the Dolphins game. Did you see Tyreek Hill's numbers?

No?

I know he had a huge on what happened?

Eleven catches for two hundred and fifteen yards and two touchdowns.

Flash Gordon, Is that good asking for a friend?

I was.

I was just trying to jump in just to say a little not to my Miles Brown. I know we've moved on from the good list, but I thought he had a couple of nice plays, and he's, you know, caught a lot of flack. But I particularly one tackle he had on Blue was a j Brown, you know, and I think it was the third down to get the stop, just open field tackle big guy Miles Bryant.

You know, I know he's caught a lot of flack over the last few years, so.

Just a little It would have been so nice if Matt could have closed the deal because this is the game. We're waiting for him to make his bone. He hasn't made his bones yet.

It would have been poetic. Brady's in the building, you know.

And finally they get you know what feels like a kind of a throwback win with the defense getting a stop and the offense complimentary football that YadA, YadA, YadA.

What else you got on your bad list? Say anything?

I'm tapped, tapped?

How about you can't have anything else? Why is Juju Smith Schuster standing on the sideline on the on the last play and we're expecting body to tap dance and make that catch?

No, man, I know I would have had Juju Smith Schuster on my bad list, but not not that. But I think it's an interesting thing to bring up though, because I had him on the bad list early. But to make two catches on this line and really didn't come close to making either one. I didn't like the way Smith Shustill looked in this game. I generally had one play which kind of kickstarted the first scoring drive.

Looked at that drop. He looked unremarkable to me, kind of what we've seen this summer. He's just not really an explosive guy. He kind of rounds out his routes. There's not a lot of explosiveness with him.

He can break some tackles, I think when he makes the catch, but he's not going to really separate.

I don't know.

He's one of those ones where you see him targeting so many different guys you wonder, you know, how are things going to play out over the next few weeks, of which is.

Kind of what I'm like. Sometimes I'd just rather have the legs go to somebody else that I think is better. And one other individual I would say is Ezekiel Elliott. I don't think he was very good in this game. Too many I'm wondering, and I mentioned this to you, you and Evan Mike during the game. Stevenson was limited that practice during the course of the week with an illness. I wonder if he's sort of shaking that off and

I don't know. Man. Other than the fumble, I thought he was nothing. I thought I thought he was okay.

He had five catches for fourteen yards. Yeah, I mean you have to try to get that few yards on that many catches.

I thought he was okay.

He had one one eleven yard run, which is a play that I firmly believe Ramandri Stevenson would have taken for a touchdown. And if that was the little option, look in misdirection and.

If you know nobody there. He had six carries for eighteen yards. If you take away the eleven.

Yard run, that's a trick. And the eleven yard run, there's nobody like that's that's not the play. That might be the play that I was talking about. I think Stevenson had a big This is a big game for Steven's right there. Big game, and I don't I just think he cuts out. It takes him too long to get up. He just doesn't look. And I also thought he was loose with the ball. Now, he fumbled once, I thought he was loose with the ball a couple other times. I just think it was good.

I didn't think Elliott from my like, okay, I didn't think Stevenson was was any better.

No, Stevenson was two yards to carry. He was getting killed. But so I just think that and you guys are right, like if the defense might be different if Stevenson's there, they think he's more of a threat. But you know, he gets an opportunity in the open field at the end of the game, rips off a thirty two yard or on a screen. Yeah.

I just was really interested in the running back usage. I mean, we've just never really seen it like this. They had a lot of two back sets with both those big guys out there.

Handful of those.

They didn't really use Montgomery as a third down back per se. It's just things have really changed, I think in the backfielder.

I don't think we've seen the whole offense. You're gonna see Montgomery on third down, you know.

Yeah, this is just week one. Well, it's just reacting to what we just saw.

That was all.

Hey, I saw gas Sickie in the game though. That's good. I know what he looks like.

Now, well, he looks like he's on stilts. Huh. Yeah, he doesn't run well volleyball.

I think he's pretty fast.

I don't know he's like any any injuries to speak of.

Not that I saw.

I didn't see the Eagles had a couple, but I think, yeah, Patriots, I.

Mean, might hear guys getting banged up, but there was nothing on the field that we saw.

No.

Okay, all right, let's get the phone calls here. Eight five five Pats five hundred. This episode of the Patriots Post Game Show is presented by Draft Kings. We begin by going to Rick in Florida. Rick, thanks for hanging on.

Welcome.

What do you got for us?

Oh?

Please, that's just the boss man is sitting right here.

That's not what he's not paying attentions, doesn't even matter.

It's fine.

We'll go to Eric in New Jersey. Eric, I know you're there for us. Hi, Eric, Hey, how are we doing good?

Eric?

I think he kind of hit it there at the end.

You know, I think we have to judge Mac again.

The second game. I think we bring it back fashes that Andy's where you know, the game's handcuffed forward right there at the end, you know, opportunity right there on the opposite side, I mean our side of the field. The score had two opportunities to day, still hasn't had that comeback game to where you know, the opportunity is right there to present himself, you know. Defensively, I felt

All right appreciated.

Thanks sar Oh there it goes. You give me a little good, a little busyness anyway, audition. He said, defense was pretty good. He said a lot, He said an awful lot. But I think the defense did play well enough tonight. And I don't think Philadelphia played their best game either, but nobody does in Week one. But no, there was a lot of mediocre football we were watching.

I thought we'd see more of those like those passes Hurts had that got ruled in complete that I thought was I thought he was in bounced, but I thought we'd see more stuff like that. It's just you know, him outside the pocket and he just flicks his wrists and it's like forty yards downfield, no problem.

But uh yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's just interesting. It's you know, going back to just you know, having those two weapons. I mean, they're great players. I don't know, I'd be I'd be a little bit.

I'm a little bit concerned if I was filly to think, you know, we got these two guys, is this going to be a can they stay healthy and be Will this be solvable with a team with you know, are they that good?

I don't know.

All right, Christian in Los Angeles, Hi, Christian, welcome in. What do you got?

Hey, you guys, Hey, you guys. So I know, you know, did a slight tendency to lean towards sunshine and rainbows because of what we saw last year, but I gotta be you know, straight and called to see it. There was questionable play calling, terrible execution, and just the lack of focus from the beginning, in the middle and then and in clutch situations in the end. Anytime also, you get a quarterback who throws the ball fifty something times

He didn't do well.

If you throw that many times and you can't score, and then taking sacks, and then the just the lack of focus to play, the lack of focus played at the crucial moment is what separates in this league the teams that make the playoffs and the teams that you got to give you know, hey, you know they did well. They show some portitudes. I'll take her out the air, two guys, But I'm a little dipointed in the way we played.

Okay, all right, taking sacks, I don't know, you're dealing with a with a version of the offensive line.

So I'm reading, I'm reading the transcript, and I'm back on the field goal nown like, this is the kind of stuff that Bill does, and everybody will eat it up because no one will call him on it. You know, in hindsight, do you wish you had kick more field goals in the game? Made the best decision we could at the time. Didn't know we'd be down there multiple times. Six minutes to go in the game, I don't know, ten minutes to go in the game bill. There's a

Like I just.

I don't know. I don't I don't really understand the decision making in this game at all.

And some of the play calling down the stretch, I I have to agree the.

Unless he's talking about a different possession that I'm thinking of, I don't know.

Okay, So before the fourth and three there was that third down call which Ezekiel Elliott trying to run into the middle of the line is a terrible call. That hasn't worked. It hasn't especially with this line. It hasn't worked all night. Why are you doing that on a pivotal third down call? All right, well it didn't work. I understand maybe you're trying to play it a little safe, but now you can at least take the three Oh you're not taking the three points. Oh you don't trust

Yeah.

So, I mean I also just think they were they were really limited today and what they probably felt like they could do, you know, so as much as it's like, don't do that, like they their hands were tied with starting two rookies at you know, two guard spots and a guy at right tackle who hasn't didn't have any training camp.

All right, The Patriots the Eagles episode of the postgame show is on right now, and Brady and Kansas City is on with us. Brady, thanks for calling in. What do you got?

Hey?

Guys? Think football is back?

Right right?

That's true?

Right, so right right?

I there was I think there were a lot of question marks coming into this season. We didn't know how Bill o'bryant's offense was going to be. And I think this game is obviously a little bit more optimism than pessimistic view this year. I think last year we went in a little pessimistic with all the whole chaos going on. I had one point. One point that kind of I think might have been missed on the bad list was the just running offense in general. That seemed like that

Get him.

He got some yards after catch today, not a lot, but he's talking.

About breaking tackles. He couldn't break anything.

He made a first guy miss on one of his You know, every every time I saw him catch the ball, he got tackled immediately, just like Yakobe.

No go look again, because they had one crossing route that there was nobody there. They got caught in the bunch formation.

Other than that, No, there was one.

He caught in the flat and he made the first guy miss and picked up like eight yards.

Brady, you heard Fred, go watch the game again.

I'll be I'll be with you, Brady. I'll be doing it.

So we'll be here until one am.

We're gonna stay. We're gonna stay like the Brady moments that never happened.

As long as it takes Brady to watch the game again and call back again. That's how long we'll stay here tonight.

Everybody agree, I uh, can we talk about the Brady thing real quick? The other Brady, the real Brady that was here tonight.

Yeah.

I just was gonna say. I thought it was pretty cool. I thought it was pretty cool. And Tom ran out with it with his jersey on and he was screaming to the side.

It was good. I thought it was I thought it was well, this is isn't the big one. No, well I don't.

I mean, I don't even care.

I just look as a you know, and I know this is going to drive it'll be crazy because I'm supposed to be the one who hates Brady. But for me just to see him in a Patriots jersey again, run down that field, you know, to see him kind of just embrace being a Patriot again.

I I thought it was really cool.

I don't really care about like the speeches and all that kind of but just to have that guy back in the thing at.

That moment, for me to see him in the jersey, I said, I'll be a Patriot. I loved it.

It was great.

I I you know, I know that we were talking about the game and that's really what's super important. But we should maybe just mention six twelve twenty four. Next year, they're going to put Brady into the into.

The that'll be like a two or three hour event where it won't it won't feel it won't feel rushed, you know, it'll.

Have me and Paul come out and do a little thing.

All the people that were partying.

Paril, Paral Parreal, they don't know have any idea who I am they would know how to spell my name.

Okay, I'm glad you like, by the way.

I did look it up third and three from the seventeen Elliott. They'll call that you pointed out for no gain. Terrible call. Ten thirteen left in the game. Wow, not six minutes, wow, ten thirteen left. Yeah, okay, So it's intentional. It's not all you think he doesn't know, because he knows every twist of the you know, tweak of the details to make it.

It's like a little bit more.

Turns the fourth and two into a fourth and one in Indy. He turns the the fourth and thirteen when he passed up the Gostowski field goal in the perfect season and into something that it was a fifty No, no, it wasn't. It wasn't like it's always off by a little bit, right down to more recently, after the playoff game. You know that, you know last season, you know that was last season. Last season we weren't competitive. No, it was last night, Bill, you played the playoff game last night.

You brought up the Brady thing. Okay, I'm glad he ran down the field, and that got your juices. Now, I know and I and I thought Robert, I thought Robert Charlie Batch coming.

Out for the Lions. I didn't know I did.

That is w First of all, Eric Hipple, I prefer to Greg Danielson, Greg.

Yeah, my brain was going random line Quarry, Gary Daniels, Greg, Greg Landry, Gary.

And Robert Crafts speech was was good. Brady did a good job. I just thought there was gonna be a little something more than all right, the big reveal see in June.

And he's putting him into the Hall of Fame without waiting.

Oh no, wait, I did see that is good. I didn't think he was getting into the Patriots Hall of Fame. What do you expect them to put his number up in the stadium, do something on the lighthouse.

Another than I to see you next year without telling you what was happening. I tried to tell you what was happening.

Which was nothing.

They're gonna have a stadium wide event next year in the middle of June. Okay, but for one guy. Okay, but it's not enough.

You didn't need to have the big hullaballoo and have him here for that. They just could have made that announcement on Twitter.

No, I think what you wanted to do is you wanted to get him.

I know what they wanted to do. What did they have to do? Did they have to have Brady here for that time?

No, because I think you know, have him talk. He just retired. You wanted to get him back here as soon as possible, so you don't have everybody like, oh, what are they doing? What are they doing? So you get him down here, you know, because he just retired, he's, you know, fresh off of that, and you have a nice event at halftime, and you announced the big event, which is going to be June twelfth.

In all seriousness, can I ask you a serious question here?

Yeah?

Did you really think it was bad? Like just have like a little halftime thing like everybody else gets.

Are you just I magine about Ray Sanders never had a day to be there except in Detroit.

No.

I just thought there would have been something, some mementos, some type of something other than an announcement.

Today.

All we got was an announcement, and I thought there would have been a little bit more.

That's all well, And I wouldn't have brought to explain to everybody without spilling any beans.

But here's the other thing, and here's the other thing, and you know it's not an excuse, like you know, they had to get a two hundred and fifty million dollar renovation done and they just got under the wire.

I mean I think I just finished it.

Yes, Yeah, I don't think that they wanted to like and we're doing a statue or we're doing you know, like I think they just there was a lot going on, and I think they didn't want to like short change Brady, so they wanted to make sure that they had this other day announced that is going to be all Brady.

I mean, it's gonna be gonna be like Tom, it's huge, bigger than Larry by time Bluem. It's gonna be awesome.

Yeah, it's true, you know, speaking of and he made an announcement and letting people know that he's going into the hall without a weight, never been done before.

They gave him a tribute video and they made an announcement. I just it got a little overhyped for what it ended.

Well, whose fault is that people in the radio right with your radio show? Do you talk about on your that's right, that's.

Music, that's right. They didn't want us talking about.

I mean, it's unbelievable, like, what's you know they should do this, and that's great, but like the media, people who just had to know what was gonna happen, just wait and see and you'll find out and you'll find out nothing.

They just wanted nothing happened. You're right.

I thought that was great. I thought it was great.

I think I bet you every fan in there is like, this is just what we needed to like kind of reset.

This, all that stuff. All that stuff will be you know that you're talking about. Yea, if it happens, Yeah, we'll be saved for the Brady Night.

Okay, I'm going to do the top twelve a game and you want to ask some input on that one.

I thought I thought tonight was a Brady Night, and it was because he was here.

Nobody even hanged I told you it wasn't the Brady Night.

No, there are gonna be multiple Brady Nights and we I mean, you've got thirteen minutes and they will also not want us to talk about those either. My apology, I'll apologize for the media for helping, once again to promote you anything that the Patriots get thirteen minutes, make that mistake.

In thirteen minutes at halftime. I mean, you only have so much time.

We don't speak about the Patriots and whatever.

We're gonna like unveil all this stuff, and like we're gonna unveil all this stuff in like thirteen minutes minus the time that takes the stage out in statute, you know, and that's gonna be. That's gonna be, you know, what he deserves. No, did you talk that would be disrespect? Did you talk about that, that's how you treat lions in Detroit because you've never want a damn thing.

We want a playoff game in nineteen ninety one? Did you talk about the Brady thing at all during Patriots Unfiltered this week?

No?

Not really, you didn't mention it. I mean we might have mentioned that it's happening.

Okay, that's about what we did. Would entire segments on.

Oh God, you're lying. Okay, go back and listen to the part I don't know your show, you don't you take too many breaks. But on the other shows, they they they had they had segments just people what should they do?

What should they do about what they're gonna do with Brady.

Yeah, I'm kind of with.

No, we have four hours to kill every day, not two hours with the ten minute lunch break.

Oh and you kill it as you kill it, that's for sure. I asked about it's dead, and what do you think.

We engage with what the people want to talk about. That's what people actually wanted to talk about.

Freddy Joker and straight said, you just see that?

Yeah? Is that right?

Yeah? Three twenty four.

I thought Medvedev would give him a little bit of a tougher time.

Did Coco drop the first set yesterday?

She did badly. She badly.

She looked awful in the first set, and then as bad as she played in the first set, the other one played in the next.

I like her. I like watching her play.

It was awesome at the end. Did you you didn't have to see the.

End of that match.

I didn't see anything, you know what, you know what kind of like the people are gonna be like, what are they taking this? Austin Panco, she's a little bitch and and and no, I think it's good for tennis. Tennis. Women's tennis needs a villain. I think she's she's she's.

Just you know, might be a good time to break.

She yells at people.

I like it.

I like it.

I want her to go.

Well, you get like off next week, you got to point out I don't know who you're talk about. You got yeah.

I like she.

She lost in the quarters, I believe, but I think she's just what the game needs. Like she's got that fiery personality.

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Here's Hardy. It's not as bad as what Fred just said. All right, back to this episode of the Patriots Postgame Show, which is presented by DraftKings. Thank you for being here. We're going to hear from the head coach here in a few minutes, as well as the quarterback. But first we'll go back to the phones and we'll talk to Dawson, who is in Pennsylvania. Dawson, you have a good list tonight. That's somebody that we missed.

I think. I think on Uh.

And I mentioned really had aid game.

Yeah, both of those guys were mentioned. Yeah, I agree he.

Gave up, you know, that little out route to Brown, but that wasn't really anything too negative. I mean Brown, he's just one of the best wide receivers I think in the league.

Yeah, he's a good player. Absolutely.

One of my bad though, I think, is mac Jones' arm strength. When you look at a lot of his passes, they were real low to the ground. He it didn't look like he had anything behind him, and it just it didn't look right.

Yeah, there were a couple more than a couple of those, But I'm not sure it's arm strength as it is confidence, like you know, he sees it in like I do. You knows hesitation because a lot a couple of these weren't long throws, you know, they were like pretty close and when he came step in and he threw him low, and I just I think it's it's a mental thing. I don't think it's a.

Hard mentioned one that he got hit. Yeah, go ahead, Dawson. I'm sorry.

Do you guys think that that first interception off of Bourne's hands played a factor into that night or do you think he was just he wasn't truly confident in the in the play scheme, and he just wasn't wasn't getting it out there to the guy's quick enough.

I don't know the ball. I think the ball was wet. I think it was coming about out a little higher than he wanted it to. I think it could be too early, Yeah, because he managed to fix that.

But I I just thought there were a lot of floaters in the game. I thought the Eagles got their hands on several passes before Patriots did.

The first long attempt that he tried that ended up coming up just a tiny bit short. Yeah, beautiful.

It was a flat drop, beautiful.

Yeah, beautiful looking ball in the air. I'm like, Oh, that's tight spiral and that's not going to have enough. It's just gonna be a little bit And Darius Slay made a nice play on it. Well.

Plus yeah, is that the one that was born was wide open.

Initially he was open and Slay played catch up. Yeah, but he should have caught it. And if he doesn't, mean you know, a couple of plays later they got the drive started. It's another one that's like just tight coverage.

Guys.

I thought there was the key play. It was that play that you're to me. The offense changed when they threw the bomb to Bourne. That was you know, this is it. Slay's got it, he's tracking it and he drops it. After that, the Patriots started getting opened on shallow crosses and I didn't I thought they were really covered well before this. I think this sort of I know that people don't want to hear it, but took the top off a little.

Yeah, and watching it again, you're right, Paul Slay should have caught that. He's got two hands on. I just watching it live, I'm like, oh, he closed a lot of ground there.

He did, but then he dropped it and then the Patriots ended up scoring a touchdown on that drive.

Anybody gonna be disappointed if they moved the ball down field with a lot of underneath stuff and do it that way, and maybe if if we're lacking in some in some long attempts. As long as you get in the end zone and get yourself out.

And okay with that, but you need to take those shots every once in a while to keep the defense honest. You do, and you might get a flag one I think.

They were important, like they could have gotten a flag on this one.

Now.

I think it's offensive interference. But I've seen that called sure, I've seen that called defensive passing appearance. That's in the end zone, that's a free touchdown. I think those players are valuable. I agree with you.

Freddy Mac in Connecticut, Mac, thanks for joining us. What do you got hey, good evening, guys, good good, thank you.

Yeah, thanks for having me on. First of all, huge fan and Paul and I don't know if you guys still take lunches, but i'd love to buy lunch for you guys. Been listening for a long time.

You don't need to do that, but thank you.

Just do you know how to spell my name?

I here?

Okay, I appreciate that set that up, but Fred's right, it's completely unnecess not I need. Fred usually buys for me, so I don't.

Secondly, I didn't see uh mark out there was he out.

There was Yeah, he was out there.

Yeah, yeah, playing safety a lot.

Probably, I mean he probably didn't play more than fifteen snaps maybe something that vicinity.

Okay, it was there. That fact.

Thanks, Matt, appreciate it.

One thing that we were talking about during the week is Evan didn't want to see the mush rush. We saw a lot of mush.

Rush, did we. Yeah?

Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to define. I mean, I feel like they did a good job of kind of containing him, but even when he was able to get out, it seemed like they were able to get out too.

And someone what the Eagles struggled early to protect and I thought that just kind of settled down.

Yeah, I think second half there were a lot of three man rushes where there was no no intention of getting to her.

Whatever they did today worked because I don't oh yeah, I don't think the Eagles looked dangerous offensive at any point in the game.

I'm not saying I'm saying that they did a mush rush in by design, and I think it worked a lot of times, you know, whatever they because the coverage was so damn good.

Yeah, no, it's I mean It's another solid performance by the defense, and I mean, I you know, I kind of expected that. It's just it's I mean, in some ways it's the same story, you know. It's it's just this team needs to be able to get over the hump of the end against good teams.

And you know, that's maybe the.

Last I don't want to say it's the last bridge to cross, but it's it's one of them.

It's the last bridge.

Donnie and Pittsburgh. Hi, Donnie, thanks for calling into this episode of the Pulse Game Show presented by DraftKings. What do you got, Donnie?

Guys, Uh, Patriots nation's probably feeling a lot better than Steeler's nation out here. My my in laws are a bit hurt today. But yeah, that was three rofit fire notes here, because I know Hardy likes a chip shaped offensive line, played above our expectations, played really well overall. You guys said that the one note here those penalties, I think knock them on a field goal range.

That was a big one.

Yeah.

On the defensive side, if you take out those points off turnovers and just look at how the defense performed in a bubble against that Billy offense. That's one of the best performances going back to Week one, twenty twenty two against that team from anyone in the NFL. So that was really impressive there. And then sort of how I look at great in the offense to use a metaphor here, I'm greating them kind of the way I

I love the call.

Yeah, I love the call because I think this is gonna be a lot of talk and this is we're talking about this off here about oh the offense. You know, we get an offense you largely have the offense that couldn't finish drives like like last year. You know, we talked about the first drive of the game. They come out in did some some different things. Moved the ball, remember the first drive of the year last year, same thing, moved the ball, drove down the field through a pick

Right and Okay, offensively there was there was the slow start, But this time around, I felt, especially that the play calling hamstrung them as much as their actual ability did. There were times last year I'm like, man, they don't have they don't have the schemes, they don't have the personnel. They just they just don't have it. And yards that

Well, if you're if you're Bill O'Brien, how do you treat you know, Wednesday when you get when everyone comes back and.

You know, hoping when you when stranger back out there?

No, but like you know, what's your like? Are you ripping guys or no? Are you like, hey, you know I mean gonna get you know, I don't think that.

I mean I get what Hardy is saying, and I mean I agree.

There were a lot of you know, screen passes, and I'm seeing you know comments, everyone was, you know nuts with that. There's running right into the teeth of defense when you're not getting anything there.

You know.

But I think you highlight, like Paul said, when you made that big play downfield, things started to open up, you started to click, you started to feel, you know, some confidence. I just want to see how it looks like when you get two experienced starters, maybe back in the middle of that line, and you know, maybe that changes some of those screen passes. You know, now we have cold strange and athletic first round pick, you know,

Surprised him when you didn't play.

I'm very surprised.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I thought at least that, I mean, we thought that was advanced, that that Strange wouldn't because he's been pretty sporadic at practice.

I thought I'll win you. It was the plant, yeah, you know up to week one.

Yeah, I positive, you know, did the weather has something?

I just wonder if something happened in practice where he got a little setbacks possible.

He's been on the injury report the whole time, though, you know, I mean.

So, I mean, it's hard to tell, but so hard Do you want to hear a quick line from Nick Siriani's postgame press.

Cond Oh, he's not too much of a hard on the sideline?

Is he.

Don't at players, and we don't watch that stuff, so we can't see it. He's right there in front of us, so it's like he's kind of hard to miss.

And he's like yelling at the Eagles or the Patriots, yelling at Patriots. Yes, he's Hawks doing the Bill thing. Hawks starts yelling at derecation. One of my time that I was you see the scoreboard, find me after the game. That was one of my all time favorite Bill moments. Second quarter, they got a little run heavy and gotten a rut. It was just hard.

We weren't winning on first down. Dang it, car Are It's fine.

I didn't keep track. I don't have the ammunition to bring to the argument. I was literally asking a question earlier.

That's all.

How about Spee in Fresno speed?

What's up, buddy?

I yeah, I feel I'm a little bit on a different pagement. But I'm oddly happy and hopeful and optimistic of this. I mean everybody seems kind of glum and pissed. I mean they they look I guess my expectations might have been miscalibrated. I mean I thought you saw from maybe for Mac, like he played like the crap and sailing balls in the first quarter and then you know, second quarter on.

The fourth quarter, Yeah, he's not playing perfect, but.

I thought that there was that sort of resilience that we're hoping to see from in ever since he kind of came into the league.

See, but don't lump glum in with pissed. I think people are going to be more pissed than glum. I think they're pissed at the way the game ended. I think they're pissed at at the slow start. But I don't think people are depressed about this. I think the Patriots gave you plenty of reasons tonight to show you that this season will be different.

Like you could have gone out of this game with like dread. Oh god, We've got sixteen more of these. But I'm excited to play next week. I want to see where do we go from here? You know, That's what I come out of this game with.

You know, now, it's good, except.

The one thing that just like stands out, and it's kind of the continuation of everything that I've I've been kind of pessimistic about. Is Mac the guy sort of stuff Like, I just think his accuracy, in his velocity in certain kind of critical pivotal moments are always going to be just not there, and that's.

Just going to be.

I don't want to be pessimistic after what I thought was something that kind of verified that maybe he has some gumption in there to pull it out. I know, like Mike said, it didn't actually happen, but I don't know. I thought it was more than to be. Maybe I just had bad expects.

But like the touchdown to Bourne in the back of the end that he zipped that in, that one had some heating, you know, and it's like the less he has to think the perfect.

Not he can't do it Anti on the back foot.

Bang, he's fine running turning, trying to get back across his body.

And outside the numbers is an issue. I don't think he completed a pass outside the numbers in the game.

Thanks speaking, except for the one that almost.

You can tell that you're the past. The booty should have been a catch. It was a perfect pass, okay, but it wasn't. I know, but that's a rookie who does didn't have control of his feet yet, but that was a perfect pass. Good speed you get behind him.

You can tell is a real part of the show because we all just talk over all these all these bumps. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was.

An okay performance from act today.

I do.

I don't think he was the reason why they lost.

I can't. I wouldn't be minus.

I think he was okay today, And I think Mike said it perfectly when he when you talked about Mac at the start of the show, Freddy before you joined us, really tough circumstances to sort of rebound from, and he showed a lot of toughness, both physical and mental in doing so. And I thought he was a part of that. I just thought there were a lot of loose throws today that he got away with. Again, I don't think you could throw the ball like that on a consistent

I want to get to Sam and Halifax in the UK, Sam, thanks for calling in when you got Sam, Hey.

How's going guys?

Good?

Sorry cause directional confusion earlier. I just want to say, you know, I think Mac, you know, did all right, but I I did to agree that he didn't hit the guys he should have. But at the same time, looking at you know, Jalen aj Brown and DeVante Smith and then Mac trying to hit Keisham Buzzi on the sidelines and you know, Hunter Henry, is is there a middle gred where Mac can try and make throws on the sidelines to guys who can kind of compete in the league.

So are you saying that if they had a little better quality receivers there you go?

Yeah, I think it's it's the first postgame show.

It's definitely.

But is there is there a league where the Patriots are functional offense because their guys can make the plays and get the feed in where Mac and hit hit the routes at the right time.

No, I think you know what, I I don't think that's Mac's scapegoat talk there, Sam, I think it's a perfectly valid question. I mean, do the Patriots magically uh acquire a true number one receiver in the last week or two or is it the same thing that we've been talking about all off season. Is there a true, dedicated number one that other teams have to plan for every single snap?

That's true, they don't. They do not have a game breaking receiver. They don't have I would agree with that nothing. And it's okay to want one another underrated play call the last drive, third and thirteen they get sacked. The one time they got sacked, set up a third and thirteen. What was the call screen? Yeah, two yards for Stevenson to set up fourth and eleven. I just I mean, it's just so many screens today. One worked. I mean they must have called ten screens.

I mean, you understand work, the theory behind why they do it.

You got an aggressive front trying to get them, you know, to to not have to worry about your blockers trying to hold up. You're just trying to say, all right, hold them for a second, let them get by, and then you know, get out. I get that just mentioned one thing, and there it is. Yeah, highlights, It's amazing already. You don't pay those guys enough. John in New Hampshire emailed in.

He said, I really don't get the fourth down tries when the score was twenty two to fourteen. I'm with you on that, and I can't wait to hear Bill Belichick if he does, in fact say there was six minutes left, because as Bill or is, Paul already checked, and I went back and checked to myself fourth and eight, eleven thirty one on the clock, fourth and three. I just had it here in front of me.

What was it?

Ten?

There was ten? There was ten thirteen left on the third town play. By the time they snapped it on fourth down, it was just under ten.

Right, right, So I looked that up earlier. Okay, let's see what the head coach has to say about it. And this is brought to you by our partner, Microsoft. Surface, the official sideline technology provider and laptop of the NFL and the New England Patriots, provides players and coaches with the tools to succeed both on and off the field. Check out the powerful Surface Pro nine, combining the power of a laptop with the flexibility of a tablet at Surface dot com.

Here's the head coach, go back to work here, try to correct some of the things that we obviously need to do better, and.

Just move on from there.

Questions.

We'll pass a mic to you, Hi, Bell, Can you just speak to how you thought Christian Gonzalez did in his debut tonight.

Yeah, we'll take a load of the film on it, buddy, And I'm sure everybody had some good plays and had some plays they'd like to have back. That was probably the same for every player and coach participate.

In the game.

Bill, I believe a career high pass attempts for Mac Jones tonight. What did his per foremance and the success of the passing game show you in terms of confidence in his ability to with the offense and be someone who can carry the offense in the passing game.

Yeah, we have confidence in all our players and confidence that everything we do with the running game, passing game, special teams, defense, we have confidence.

In all of them.

Bill, early fourth quarter, fourth and three from the seventeen, you have to go for it instead of kicking the field goal.

What went into that decision?

It was the best decision for the team.

In hindsight, do you wish you had kick more field goals in this one?

Made the best decision we could at didn't know we'd be down there, you know, multiple times six minutes to go in the game. I don't know, Big kicked them street asking them not.

Going to go for it.

Bill, you guys dug yourself a hole tonight, but then you were able to get out of it pretty much and and your team came back. What did you learn about your team and their ability to try to come back tonight? Obviously falling a little bit short.

That we didn't play good enough to win. Yeah, did enough things to make a competitive but not enough to win.

Got to coach better. You gotta play better.

Coach down two starting offensive linemen, one of the best pass rushes in the NFL, and Mac did not get sacked until the final three minutes of the game. How do you evaluate how the offensive line played overall today?

Yeah?

Again, at think overall, we were, you know, played competitively. We had some good plays and then we had a couple of plays that you know could have been better, obviously, so a couple holding penalties. You know, we had some key penalties and obviously and overs and so just just need to do.

A better job.

But what's but what's your upshot on offensive execution in the game?

And would you not like it?

But what you saw and what sorry.

Offensive execution in the game upshot on on what you saw, and it's a lot.

Of things we need to work on. Do better, be more consistent.

Seemed like offensively placed in the second quarter.

What did you see that allowed the offense to have more success in that second quarter?

Better execution, better timing?

Well the hit that Jabrol Peppers landed to get you guys the ball back at the end of the game, what did you think of that play?

Great contact play pep sent explosive player. You know, it's a great hit, ball popped right out. Really it this great tackle. I thought we for the most part tackled pretty well tonight. But I mean always roun for improvement.

Bill.

It seemed early on pretty conservative offensive approach. Also in time with the weather being harshest, did the rain and the conditions affect the way the offense was called early on? Appear to push the ball more downf.

I mean, ay, right, we didn'tlaunched a lot of deep balls, but there weren't a lot of those anyway.

But yeah, I mean it's a little bit of a factor in early in the game.

Yeah, Kendrick Bourne seemed almost to be a lifeline for Mac tonight. Two huge touchdowns. Is bringing him back into the fold more and more something that you're looking to do this season.

I thought all of our skill players are productive, so I thought they all are, all the receivers, the tight ends, facts so tie. So I mean a good production from all those guys.

Bill, what did you see from Christian Gonzales tonight?

We thought that was asked earlier.

My apologies, no worries.

Bill Hurts averaged about five point two yards per a time, struggled to run the ball as well. Just the overall job that you did on him. I know, gave up essentially a score because the offense and another one after the turnover. So you had to be pretty pleased with that group.

Yeah, I mean we were. It was competitive.

You know, some things we could have done better and you know, but yeah, I've got a touchdown on a short field and.

Bill on offensive fourth downs. Did you did you have a question about that one?

No?

Okay, So we hit some, we didn't hit some. So you guys were one of four. So I just wonder I felt like you were facing a long, long situations and how did you guys, how did you guys feel like you executed in those.

Go four on fourth down, you need need your best execution.

So hey, Bill, I know you rotated the receivers throughout the game, and all those rotations are made in the best interest to the team. Specific to the last drive Kai Shan and to Mario playing over Juju, what was it thinking behind that move?

Yeah, again, we had different groups, different rotations, so we're good with whoever's in there.

All right, thanks, All right, there's the head coach wrapping things up there. In his post game press conference, two Gonzales questions tonight, which, by the way, for as good as he played, I I think you have to think about the expectations. What were your expectations for Gonzales just you personally do to.

Play every snap and hopefully not get toasted too bad.

I mean that was Did he play better than that?

Yeah, he got a couple of plays.

Think he exceeded my expect Yeah, that's it.

That's it, and that's fine. I mean, that's that's good.

I gotta I gotta key on. White's the one that I kind of want to look again at. How much did he really play? But I mean there were a couple of times where I felt like he was he was coming hard off the corner and you know, just I think he gave Lan Johnson some trible too. So I don't know, not one that I'm willing to like trumpet right now, but but somebody would like to look.

At People were saying, oh, he's really playing well like.

Pass rutches. But I don't know if that's enough to like, you know, sound start the parade yet. But but but I mean, he popped a couple times and it didn't make a lot of impact.

Though Adam and Dublin emailing said defense is close to elite, confirming something that we knew.

Would you say that, sure, I mean, ish, I don't know.

They're not elite yet, but but they're good defense there and if they keep getting better they will be. They played well today relatively speaking for twenty twenty three NFL.

Based on how they've gotten pantsed by mobile quarterbacks in the past, I would say this is an encouraging performance against you know, a good offense. It still wasn't enough, as Bill Kinna said, but I think there's a lot to you know, feel like, all right, maybe these guys can be better than the group was last year that couldn't quite get over that hume.

And it is funny, like they forced the fumble there at the end. But I and that's great obviously, but I would like to have seen what you're talking about. Could they have come up with a stop there? Mm hmm, yeah, you know, yeah, you know the other one. Like I think you made the point Fred about the conservative play calling. You know they I don't think Hurts had to play under center all game until first and second down on their last drive from midfield, and they just had straight handoffs.

I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, dumb.

Nathan and Monterey Mexico said, Am I wrong to feel this Pads team is different now? He says a bunch of stuff, But he said they scored and came up short, came up just short twice in the red zone? So am I wrong to think this Pads team is different?

Now?

When you bring that up. I'm more inclined to think, no, that some of these problems from last year still exist.

That's what I'm talking about.

Like I focus in.

I think we are content to say, oh, it looked so different today. The first drive they went right down the field last year against Miami. It was a great drive. It was one of the best drives of the first half of the season, but it ultimately ended on a Xavi and Howard pick in the end zone. The first Dravet looked really nice today. It ultimately ended on a bad throw deflection picked six, Like you get down in

Yeah. Night steps.

George and Virginia said, same old story. You're scoring more than twenty one points and you beat the Pats.

I mean, I twenty five is the number.

Field goal.

Twenty five is the number. I mean, it is what it is. They've never won a game with mac Jones when the other team scores twenty five or more.

Yeah, that's the number.

And I really thought today I thought today was I'm telling you.

I thought it was.

I thought they were gonna win.

It just felt like I thought I had a lot of faith that they were going to win the game at the end, especially when when Papers forces.

The fumble, right, I sure did.

Talent level separation and readiness preparation made Belichick look bad. What good is having the greatest coach of all time if his current teams are poorly coached and prepared. That is from Johnny and Wisconsin. I don't think anybody had Belichick on the good list tonight.

But I I've been very critical, but you know, I have to give him some credit for the defensive game plan.

Yeah, I will say that the team didn't look ill prepared. It was really more about the play calling.

I thought there was some some play calls offensively, and that's Bill O'Brien.

But I have the decision to go for it on the fourth round. The decisions on kicking kicking, and that's Bill's check. But what about the decisions that they made defensively? They obviously did something. They only gave up two hundred and fifty yards.

Not a lot of defenses have done that to that offense.

I mean, since he had that in the first quarter of the game last year, that was a good defensive performance pretty much start to finish.

Before we hear from Mac Jones, Let's talk to Josh in Arizona on this episode of the Patriots Post game Show, which is presented by DraftKings. Josh, what's going on, gentlemen? Good?

Hey, Josh.

I'm looking at I'm just taking a second here and looking at the box scores, and I'm hearing so many negative comments that it kind of blows me away. I'm looking at three hundred and eighty two yards for the Patriots versus two fifty one for the defending NFC champion Eagles. I'm seeing three oh six for passing yards, and I'm hearing everyone bag on Mac Jones, who is dealing with arguably the worst wide receiving corps in the league.

Who's backing on Mac Jones?

It sounded like just about everyone.

Well, I mean, first half, he didn't play that well, Mike picked it.

Up first good, maybe the first quarter, but I've heard more negative than positive. And he's playing against the defending NFC champions, a team that led to almost I think got close to setting the NFL record for Sackbut.

Yeah, I think that there's some people that were on him, but I think most people were were by the way he bounced back.

At this point, generally speaking, are suffering from Tom Brady and.

I don't think anybody's bagging on Mac Jones today. But I also don't think it was a great performance, if that makes any sense. Yeah, I don't think Max why you lost today. He said that about an hour ago. But he also is the reason why you didn't win, if that makes sense. He had opportunities with the ball inside the twenty yard line and couldn't get it in.

I haven't heard anyone mention twelve personnel?

What about it?

It wasn't used almost at all.

Okay? Did you think that they played well today or not?

You went out and you get Kisaki. You don't go get him to back up Hunter Henry. You go out and you get him to play twelve?

Well, okay, okay?

So what did you think of Max performance today?

I think Mac Mac did a great job all things considered.

Okay, So why are we complaining about the personnel? Then? If Mac played really well with what they did, what did that not work, no no, No.

Twelve personnel would have put him in a better position to be able to be handing the ball off more and get more production out of.

The run game. Oh so, in other words, we wanted to decrease match role in the game. Okay, like that one was all.

Over that well, they brought in extra lineman a couple of times. I mean, yeah, I listen, I'm I'm I'm with It wasn't a bad game by Mac. And like I said, I'm excited to see next week.

I feel better about Max Jones right now than I did after this whole summer. Now, I'm not saying that I'm saying he's a top three quarterback and leaving the Superstar, but based on what we've seen over the last couple of years with him and over the summer, like I feel pretty I feel pretty good about him.

I think he can beat the Dolphins next week.

Put it that way.

And before we start pumping up Mac too much for the three hundred and sixteen yards he threw the ball fifty four times tonight, I mean, you can't just discount how he played in the first.

Four can't discount how many passes hit eagles, right, He only had one pick, and ironically that one hit a Patriot first.

Right, Oh, cousin, Patt, you an aguon what's going on? Pat?

What's going on?

Gay? Hey Patty?

Hey Paul, I'm one.

You're one of your first points. I'm one with you.

Like I I wrote in the whack packed group text that uh, he looked pretty good, actually good after a shaky start. The online did pretty damn good in pass pro terrible, terrible situational football and bad untimely penalty and ready I'm with you. I mean, these next two games are Hugel. I would have liked to have seen him pull off the game. But I mean, if we're if we're going to go anywhere, we got to make pay in the division. We got to beat the Jets, and

Get Yeah, okay, thanks Pat, that's it man. The next couple of weeks. I mean this, these are too serious for this team.

Absolutely, Dolphins weren't going up and down.

What's Week three?

The Jets, Jets, Dallas then Dallas, I know, Dallas, Dallas, Jets.

I just didn't know what to order.

And in Dallas NFC. I mean it is what it is. Of course, you know, if you don't win these two games and you're you're really behind the eight ball.

I want to hear from the quarterback. I want to hear what Mac Jones had to say post game. Sure after the twenty five to twenty loss to the Eagles tonight, the regular season opener at ju LT Stadium. Here is your quarterback, Hi.

Mac, what do you think over here? Chelsea McDonald was Seven News. What do you think contributed to the slow start to this game? And how proud are you of the way that you guys responded despite that slow start?

Yeah, I think just working through some things. Really didn't throw any good passes on the first drive, So definitely a slow start and starts with me. I just got to watch the tape and clean it up, but definitely felt like we fought hard. The rookies played really well, the offensive line played really well, the skilled players played really well. So definitely let the team down to the night.

The defense got to the ball a couple of times late in the game with the possibility of, you know, getting the ball in to go ahead. How would you sum up those two drives that you just weren't able to.

Yeah, it's not very Yeah, not good by me. I mean they gave me the ball twice to win the game and I couldn't do it. So I just got to go back and watch and see what I can do better. But as a quarterback, that hurts, right, you get a chance to win the game twice and can't do it, So just got to learn from it. You only get so many opportunities in the NFL to do that. And felt like I definitely let the team down.

Hey mac To, you're right, starting the offensive line played down two starters. How do you says how the protection was and how those guys executed overall today?

Yeah? Great.

I think starting two rookies on the offensive line is tough, and they played really, really good all night. Didn't really feel the pressure at all against the best events line in the NFL. So I felt like they did an amazing job. Couldn't thank them enough for the job they did tonight, and just got to grow and continue on and those would be some of the best guys they'll go against all year, but in the NFL, everyone's good, right,

But then also to be in that two score hole, what do you What did it say to you about the team? The way you guys responded as a whole.

Yeah, I loved that.

I think you know they kept fighting.

Just play play by play, Uh, don't only the scoreboard, and Coach Belichick did a great job explaining that to us, just play each play for what it is. And definitely had too many bad plays versus good plays for me, and I just got to watch it and see how I can do better. But everybody around me played a great game and just got to be better.

Mac.

We speak a lot about leadership. You yourself are hard on yourself. You just talked about it, and you could have come back in that fourth quarter, but down sixteen to nothing, that was the time that looked like any team could fold. Your team did not. What does it say about you and your growth here in this third year and being able to lead your team back in that way.

Yeah, I think the defense obviously played great and special teams had some good returns and stuff. So honestly, you just have to watch it and see what I can do better. From a schematic standpoint, I felt like in the most critical times I played my worst, So just got to go back and look and see what I can do better. It's all you can do is learn. That's what you do as a good quarterback. You go back and learn, and when it's the hardest, that's when you need to play your best.

So I definitely can do it.

I know I can do it. I've done it before. Just got to be better and definitely came back and had a chance to win the game a few times. So just felt like I let the defense down and I'll have to live with that.

Mac the offense to start, and then you had that run there, the touchdown drives in the second quarter. It added more of a vertical element to the to the offense at that point. What really settled you guys in and made you comfortable at that point, Yeah.

I think coach O'Brien just doing his thing, calling the game how he knows how to call it. He did a great job preparing us all week. We knew what we were getting. It was just, you know, slow start kind of first game, but definitely wanted to have a better start and felt we did some good things but it wasn't consistent enough. But definitely just him just keeping calm, just talking through with the offensive line and us and the quarterbacks and everybody felt like we had a good plan.

Matt, you're being hard on yourself. A question though, in terms of things that you don't like what you did.

Yeah, was it a decision making standpoint that you didn't like or just physical ability something you didn't do physically in terms of not making the play.

I have to go look, I felt like there was definitely a couple of times when I probably didn't throw it to the right guy. Just have to watch the film. You know, sometimes when you're out there it's going fast, just trying to stay neutral and don't go up and down, which I try not to do tonight. But yeah, I just got to watch it from a schematic standpoint. But I do think I have the ability to make all

Hey, Mac, how would you describe your relationship your chemistry? Are confident in Kendrick obviously big target tonight. I had the misque early on where it seemed like the past went off his hands, but no hesitation to keep going back to him. How confident are you and Kendrick to bounce back from that sort of stuff and when the game is in an important situation that he's gonna make the play.

Yeah, I mean Kb's one of my closest friends, and I know that he's gonna run as hard as he can on every play and fight for the ball. And our receivers have been doing that very well. That one I threw too high in the rain, it's gonna that's gonna happen. It's a bad throw, but yeah, he kept fighting,

Mac What was your reaction to watching Jabrill lay that head on Jalen and and getting the ball back for you guys another chance to go to go.

Yeah, that was a great play. Pep, he's the man. He told me to go win it and we couldn't do it, so that hurts me. But they gave me the ball back to win it multiple times. And Pep always brings that energy to practice and it feeds feeds through the team and he's gonna continue to make those plays. And we talked in the locker room and I feel like we're on the same page. Just got to do

Just got to be better, Macfield saying, like in the NFL, you have to learn how not to lose. You guys played well on offense a but there were just a couple of mistakes kind of sprinkled throughout the game. Is it getting frustrated kind of learning these lessons and losses?

I guess not really, I think. I mean it's hard, right, you're trying to win every game, but you have to learn. If you don't learn, you'll never never end up winning. So I do think that losing is not fun, never has been, never will be. But just trying to move forward. And you know, if we scored a few more points on offense and I'd be a different story. So we're not far off. It's just trying to just you know, do better.

Mac.

It seems like the offense started gaining momentum when you were using a bunch of stack formations to create some miscommunication.

Why was that something you thought would be an advantage heading into this matchup.

Yeah, that's a great question.

I think.

Really with the defense and all the coverages that they play, felt like we needed to do that and spread out the formations and also bring them in tight. So I'm not really picky about it. I just want, you know, the play to come in fast, which it did, and then get up there and execute. So I felt like our tempo was good when we use the tempo plays. You got to make make the tempo plays work or else there's no point in running the tempo plays. So we have a few out of bunch with if you

Hi, Mac, what just can you speak to what you've seen from Henter Henry and what your relationship is like with him.

Yeah, Hunter's awesome, him, Mike, Pharaoh, everybody, Matt Sokle, they have a great room over there. I'm really really proud of those guys in the way they had a good camp and carried it over to the game. But yeah, he's definitely great teammate, just always positive and I'm just disappointed that I let him down. Couldn't We couldn't score there at the end. But yeah, we're gonna keep working.

Cool.

Thanks, there you go. There is your quarterback Mac Jones tonight. You know, we didn't really mention the no huddle that they were running toward the end of the game, but that that's something else that we didn't see a whole lot last year, and you got to execute it on the plays. But they didn't. It didn't look like a fire drill.

No.

They they look like they were you know, executing at times and.

About what that's the beginning Excuse me?

When they were going, oh yeah, find it seemed.

Like they might have want to go to a little more, that they could have gotten some plays together, you know, like I think Paul's thing where they were struggling on first down, seemed like a couple of times they did have success on first down, they.

Kind of went right into that no huddle, try to try to hurry the pace up.

But yeah, is that an expensive shirt?

It was a gift from the from the people at Willow Bend Country.

Killing a lot of free stuff, don't you.

I was down there hosting a little chin wag with the members and Darren Clark Champion.

Show that you do in the morning is really paying off for you, isn't it.

Well it's done now for the season. You want to know why my Sundays are yours?

Boss?

I know? So you're able to give away callaway irons just willy nilly, just from here have them.

You just sat in Paul's trunk for like three weeks, like a dead body.

And I asked him, I said, what kind of clubs? Did he? I don't know. So someone gives you clubs and you don't even look at what they are.

Well, I ended up getting p xgs this year. I don't those.

Do you remember when you gave me the clubs? It was after right, and we just put on my trunk and I didn't like, really look at them, and I didn't like I hadn't really noticed, and then I kind of forgot about it.

We go home and wow, these are cool.

Fred, you know, sort of ripped me on the radio, went for a new one, went to box for four minutes, felt shame.

Everything was fine.

I hit those irons reasonably well yesterday, not as well as I did last week. I choked with Hardy with me at the tournament that we played together, and yesterday, well we played seven under. There were seven not if I was there the whole time, he might have been ten under.

Right, Do you have any fine thoughts on the game here tonight?

Fred?

Before we get ready for a primetime affair against the Dolphins next week.

You asked the question earlier, like coming out of this game. What will really bother you? The halftime stream didn't work as well for everybody as we had hope, so I apologize for that. Oh a lot of people just froze up, you know, bandwidth issues. I guess I don't know so.

Many people trying to watch.

Well it was, well, that shouldn't in twenty twenty three. That should not be an issue.

I'm sorry, unless it's like a ridiculous amount.

Even then it happens to Taylor Swift, you know, but this isn't that. You know, there's no excuses. Some people saw it something, but I wanted everybody to see it, so that bothered me. All right, Well, but you can go to patries dot com now and see the whole ceremony in its entirety, with a whole bunch of people that have been watching it.

That's for sure not necessarily game related. So do say anything with a game or you.

Know, it is what it is, a little disappointing, little encouraging, but doesn't really matter.

I just think, all eyes on the Dolphins. You haven't beaten to a yet. They're coming off a big win. It's a divisional game at home. If you're serious about being a contender and making this season matter. I think this is pretty much as close as you can get to a must win at week two. I know it's week two, but everything that's been going on last couple of years must win this weekend.

Well, I really like Mike's I'll just I guess I'll hammer it home. I didn't like the decisions, situational decisions, passing up field goals and even not punting on fourth and seventeen from about the forty eight yard line at the end. Just think about if on that last drive, if the Eagles had converted the fourth down, let say, Gonzalas doesn't make that tremendous play, right, do you think they go for fourth and two from their own fifteen.

Like that?

To me changes it forced you to have to defend a fourth down because you just gave them the ball at fifty and they said, we can roll the dice here and we can end the game. They're not going to do that deep in their own territory, right, Yeah. I didn't like the situational decisions.

No, And I think that the players themselves can look at the opportunities they had and decide that maybe they need to do better next time. Around, and I hope the coaches do the same thing, and they have enough humility to kind of bet look back at that stuff and say, really, wasn't six minutes, it was ten minutes, and maybe the three points would have served us better there. If you can learn from that stuff going forward, I think we got a hell of a season. All right.

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