Patriots Postgame Show 10/30: Breaking Down Divisional Win Over The Jets, Ja'Whaun Bentley Interview

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Patriots post Game Am Here at Gillette Stadium. Christian Arcand alongside Paul Perillo, has the Patriots come away with a twenty two to seventeen win over the New York Jets, trying to inch up in those standings. Bill Belichick passes George Hallis and the Jets suffer a loss. All three of their loss has been at home so far. A pretty interesting game, a pretty pretty weird game, pretty awful game, pretty awful game. Yeah, I mean, like it was. It was not a It was not a pretty sight out

there at the Meadowlands today, Paul. Yeah, I mean, listen, no style points. Patriots had to have a win. They got a win, and that's the only thing that matters. But I think most of us would be in agreement that there is a long, long way to go. Still. This was not, by any means, you know, the kind of response that I think a lot of Patriots fans were hoping for, you know, one of those Okay, we

were embarrassed on Monday night. We're going to go on the rooad against the team that we traditionally handle with ease, and we're going to smack them around a little bit. They did not smack the Jets around a little bit. The Jets handed them the game, and they also got a couple of very fortunate breaks with personal foul calls. One of which completely changed the course of the game. But it doesn't matter because they had to have a win.

I think the season was over today, can if they had lost the game at three and five, it is not over at four and four. There is still hole. Yeah, they're still alive. They're still kicking. And I agree with you. I think if they fell to three and five and the Jets went to six and two, yeah, then you're talking about not just the season being over, but fans

maybe disengaging, like the whole sort of thing. Just all right, we'll watch the game because it's on, but not that same kind of engagement that you usually see with fans this early in the season, and that you know, week eight, that'd be a hell of a time for people to start giving up. But you can't give up now. It wasn't a pretty game, obviously. Mac Jones struggled a lot throughout the course of the game. Zach Wilson did too, but was able to put a couple of drives together

at the end. There. All in all, I mean, if we go back to our sort of keys to the game, I don't feel like they really did any of them, except for part of the game. They made Wilson c ghosts. Other than that, I feel like they didn't really hit any of the things that we talked about. And I don't even think they you know, not to take away the ghost thing. I don't even think they confused him. I just think Jack Wilson just continued to not understand the idea of throwing the ball away. He would throw

the ball away into a crowd. He did three times. He got away with it. Once down in the red zone. He threw one that fell in between a host of players that had no chance in anything. It twice that Devin mccordy caught. I mean, just throwaways that had no chance. Um, I mean, I guess we could probably we can get into the good, the bad, and the injured here. Yeah, let's do that as deuces on the line. Deuce you there,

Oh yeah, oh yeah, let's get let's get deuces. Opening thoughts thing because we didn't have the pleasure of enjoying game time with him today. Yeah, I always hate this, Paul, and then I come into these things. But but I agree with everything you said. Um, you know, I thought that the first half was just disgusting offensively, it was actually I found it offensive and then all of a sudden, would you know, you get into the second half, and

then everything just kind of kicks in the gear. They get a you know, a terrible kick off from the Jets, they get a great field position, they get a big run, and all of a sudden, here we go. The formula has begun and they we're able to do it. So, um, you know, hey, there's some great performances Ramander, Stevenson just you know, back on track, outstanding. Um, I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, come off all totally negative, but um it was. It was a rough go there

at early going there, especially on offense. I'll play bad cop then, well we'll do that after we do good, bad and the injured. Though. Ah yeah, let's go ahead and do that right now. Now it's time for the good, pretty good, Pert, pretty good, the bad and the injured. Ah ah you all right, guy, all right, let's start

with the good. Um, I'm gonna go a different direction with my good I'm gonna give it to the front seven Lawrence Guy, Davon Godchau Guy at a sack in this game, I feel like they did a great job of stifling the Jets rushing attack, which is I know, even without the rookie playing, it was still a formidable rushing attack. And between Carter, Robinson and Johnson, they really couldn't get much going there. And I think that's due in large part to the big fat boys up front

getting getting the penetration. Yeah, I put run defense down as well, only they only rushed the ball fifteen times. The game sort of you know, got out got away from them because of all the mistakes. But yeah, I thought when the Jets tried to run the ball um you know, early in the game, I don't think they had great success doing it. I also think, much like Cleveland a couple of weeks ago, I think they had a poor game plan coming in. But Mike, how did you feel? Yeah, I mean I like you said, Paul,

I think they do what they had to do. I mean, it wasn't Prefaul they were going against. I thought overall, they limited damage against the run, did give up some passing, you know, some passing plays that that changed the complex, especially down the end. They're that big one made on with a little Harry Um. But you know, pretty solid up front, I thought from from from the defensive front, especially wise and Jos though those guys were getting after

it too. I'll give you the next next opportunity to give us a good I'm gonna take the layoff Romander Stevenson. Um. You know, I think after two games, a little quiet back on track, like I said at the top, and

it just continues to be the piece. I mean what you know, I can play a little bit about Jacobe Myers too, but I don't know where they'd be without Ramander Stevenson right now, great game for him, just picking up yards after contact left and right, starting to make guys miss again like he did a few weeks ago. So you know, if they can continue to ride him, I think it's a it's a huge thing for the offense. And I mean if I think they have to, I mean, I just think he's the key piece and as he goes,

they go. At this point, yeah, best player in the field today, you know, certainly for the Patriots. I'll go with Jacoby Myers as well. I thought early on he had a couple of tough runs after the catch to get some key third downs. You know, he ends up with what nine catches for sixty yards, so the average per catch not there, But I thought there was some big plays come up with the fourth down catch for the touchdown to start the second half. Not a lot

to feel good about today offensively in any regard. But I thought Stevenson and Myers were too that I felt really good about. So I had him both on my list, Remandri. Stevenson and Jacoby Myers caught more balls or twice as many balls as the rest of the team combined, sixteen combined for them, eight for the rest of the team. You could tell Mac was really leaning on him, and we thought that he was going to do that, you know. I mean, I thought Myers could have a big game.

I had mentioned that because I know the Jets play a lot of you know, a lot of that cover three zone kind of stuff. I thought that worked well, um for his game. But you know you have to go out and do it too, and you know he was able to do it all right. Um, let's see, how about another good I'm gonna go with Nick Folk. I mean, how much how much better could he be from party? I mean, that's that's I guess the honorary

host pick, you know, but every yeah, absolutely did Folk? Yeah, I mean, you know, you talk about key, Key kicks because you know what, they had a situation today. This is why I kind of like said I'll play bad cop when you would talk about the the offense was terrible for four full quarters. They had the one drive that they had that they scored the touchdown on that you needed, a thirty five yard run by Stevenson that he got hit in the backfield and had like three

guys on him. They had four i'm sorry, three different scoring drives. Say that they didn't get a first down, like the points that they got today were completely handed to them. They had a four play zero yard drive, a four play four yard drive and a five play sixteen yard drive that the only the only yards was was a roughing the passer, which was highly questionable. This

was not good offense today. Nick Folk was huge. Forty nine yards I'm sorry, forty forty five yards, forty nine yards, fifty two yards, forty two yards, like not just chip shot field goals. You know you're not You're not necessarily going into a game saying well we're gonna go forty two, forty five, forty nine fifty two, we're gonna go four for four in those I mean, you hope to, but yeah, I don't think you expect to make all four of those,

and he did and they needed every one of them. Yeah, they needed him big time because they were not getting into the end zone and outside of it, weren't even getting first downs. Yeah, I mean they couldn't. They really couldn't advance the ball much. Um. One other good that I had, or I guess i'd do, so you go if you have another one. Yeah, Peppers on there. I thought he was pretty active. Did have a bad penalty recover him the onside kick though at the end that

was a little hairy. I just thought he was active. I mean, with dugger out, he was tough guy. I've always kind of had my eye on him. I just think he's aggressive and kind of like his quickness and plays a little hard notes football. So I liked what Peppers did today and I'm hopeful that maybe they can continue to find a way to, you know, get him involved. Yeah I would, if you were here, I'd have a nice solid pushback on that one. I thought he did a lot of questions. I thought he did a lot

of questionable things today. I think he should have had two other personal fouls that he didn't, and I thought he was out of position. Occasionally I thought, I give him props for solid onside kick recovery and a good tackle near the sideline on a running play on a toss suite. But I thought I thought he was hurting

the team today. He was very fortunate that he didn't get a penalty on the Garrett Wilson play where not only he grabs him by the leg and tries to pull his leg, which I thought was dirty, but it was after he was already down, he was on a knee. Um, and then he gets a personal file after that with a with a helmet hit. Um. I didn't like his game very much today, to be honest, Yeah, I have to look at that one, Paul. I'm not have to

look at him out there. This is bad when we're not together, you know, we're not working these things out during the game. Yeah, that's okay, you can yell at me later. Um between Peppers mccordy Adrian Phillips. I thought the safety play was pretty good, you know. I thought that the safeties were okay around the line. Yeah around then thought yeah, like you you you brought up the run the run defense. I thought those guys I thought Phillips. I had Adrian Phillips, might as well bring him up now.

I had Adrian Phillips strongly on my good list today. I thought he had a couple of really good plays and a tremendous passed defense down Michael Carter in the end zone and the first the first time the Jets were down there led to a field goal. Really good defensive play, two good run stuffs at around the line of scrimmage. I thought he was really good. Uh, Adrian Phillips. Yeah, And they obviously didn't have Duggers, so you saw some

extra minutes there for Josh Bledsoe. The only play we really saw him on is when he got burned by the tight end there um uh Conklin and he comes up to Conklin's waste, so you kind of expected that to maybe happen. He's out there on an island in the end zone with him. But aside from that, and aside from a couple of places you mentioned Paul from Peppers, I was I liked what the what the safeties did as a group. Mike, what Elnce you got? Yeah? Can I can I put Zach Wilson on? Is that allowed? Now?

I'm just kidding, Um, I mentioned I mentioned shoot On and Wise. I mean I thought that they were They were good all game. I mean especially Wise. I just think he's uh, you know, I worried a little bit hot start. Is he gonna fade out or you know, I just I want to see that consistency from him. And I thought he came out today and you know, continues to you know, get just be disrupted, be a handful. Um.

Liked what those guys did. I think they were a big part of you know, the success that they had against the run and you know, forced I almost said forcing Zach Wilson into those instructions. I don't know if that's an accurate way to say it, um, but but they were good and I think they need to be good and I liked what they did. All right, are we all done with good? Yeah? I had real quick. I had to kick off coverage today because that's something that I think has been a little bit leaky as

of late today. I thought they they did a good job twice stopping Braxton Barrios inside the twenty um to force the Jets. It's a really bad field position to start, So I had that on my list. I had Marcus Jones is, you know, sticking with a special team, you know, you know big. I think it was a twenty seven yard part return which gave him. Unfortunately, Patriots did nothing with it because they can't move the ball on offense

at all. Um, So I had that and then you know, hats off to Bill Belichick for officially passing George Hollis. That was That was the extent of my good list right there. All right, there you go, let's see how about Paul, how about a little just Marcus Jones shout out for that part return. I did, you did? I just did. I'm gonna need you to listen. I'm gonna need you to listen. I don't care if you're gonna

COVID fog. I'm gonna need you to listen. Yeah. No, I thought special teams a little bit of a bounce back today. Um, you know, and and again here's where I would put Peppers into that, because that's a good play, good aggressive play coming to get the ball. Um. You know, on that on site and you know, I know everybody says, well, you're recovering and outside kicked. That's his job. You know,

we've seen guys have problems with those. I thought he confidently and aggressively came up and got that, so I would count that in the Special teams. Unfortunately, they couldn't top it off with the downing of a punt inside the five when DeMarcus Mitchell rolled into the end zone with it. But you know, overall, I thought Jake Bailey was better today. Special teams was solid. Okay, well, we got all our goods out of our system. It was a win. But can I give you a quick red zone?

Douce likes these? Douce likes these? Okay, So, h Atlanta had a six point lead, like with less than thirty seconds left, kicked the field goal to make it six, and they allowed a m a bomb for a touchdown to DJ Moore with twelve seconds left, and it was like a Hail Mary type thing and he caught the ball touchdown and there was a wild celebration. I think I'm not positive, but I think it resulted in the fifteen yard penalty, which pushed the extra point back and

he missed the extra point. So it's thirty four thirty four with twelve seconds left in Atlanta, and that game, by the way, is for first place in the in the NFC, So, oh my god, two under five hundred teams. Yeah, someone's gonna be under five hundred and win that division. That's that's something. It's usually that division, isn't it. I remember that Saint a couple of years ago. I think Carolina was like seven and nine or something, or six and ten even I don't know, I forget. Yeah, um,

all right, well there you go. There's your red zone update. Let's get to some bads. Um. I think the obvious one staring is right in the face. Not a great game for mac Jones. Mike. I wasn't gonna put him on, but yeah, I mean it's just I mean, I I'm struggling right now. I really thought, I don't usually put this much thought into the good the bad, and I know people were like, you've got he's got to be on the bad Acta's probably if I was, there would

be a great debate. I'm not gonna quite put him on. Um, I'm gonna get him a little bit of Aluway his first bull start back, but overall, the offensive performance was atrocious outside of Stevenson, and I think there's a lot to dissect there, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna jump on them Mac right now, as much as I maybe want him, Yeah, maybe I'll give him some points for coming back, you know, playing his first full game. But if I'm judging it off his performance today, he's

got to be on the bad list. I thought he had a boatload of quote turnover worthy plays, which seems to be the new buzzword in football. It's not just turnovers, it's how many years should have had. So I thought he was extremely fortunate on the roughing the passer. I thought he was extremely fortunate on the ball that got tipped at the line. I think it might have hit Isaiah Wind at the line and hit C. J. Mosley

in the chest. I thought there were a couple of others that he I didn't really see a whole lot of like really decisive throws today from him. I saw a lot off his backfoot. Now, in his defense, he was under siege for most of the day, but I know, I don't think he really ever did anything to help himself in that regard. So I didn't think he was great today. You know, in twenty four for thirty five for one ninety four, a touchdown in an interception, sack,

six times. And like I said, I think that that roughing the pastor call. If the Patriots rebound and have a good second half to the season and make the playoffs, that roughing the pastor call was going to be the biggest play in the twenty twenty two season, because if that does not get called, that's a loss. Yeah, No one can convince me otherwise. Seventeen to three at the half. I think there's a fair chance you would have seen Bailey zappy in the second half and the game would

have the game would have been over. And it was one of the worst throws ever. I mean, there was a terrible roll that had nothing to do with anything that happened, whether you thought it was roughing the pastor or not. Yeah, and Mac didn't even think it was a penalty. He walked off to the sideline, had no idea that was even a penalty on the play, So it had nothing to do with the play. Yeah. His actual interception I didn't think was his fault, obviously, because

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surface dot com. That means we are going to be talking to a player right now, and that player is Juwan Bentley, who joins us here on the phone line. If I could just click it on, Joan, you hear me, Hey, Hey, how y'all doing doing fine? Probably not as good as you're doing. First career interception? How'd that feel that? Seeing my second? But it's been a minute, so oh, I'm definitely I think we should get after CBS then, Joan, because they said it was your first career inter sense right,

I was just listening to them. Yeah, this is definitely the second one we get on CBS. Which ones you like better that one or the first one? I'm always for the most recent, so obviously on that play, that's a that's a big spot there. The Jets are looking to get some points at the end of the half up ten three. Uh, you looked like you dropped into a zone. I think it was Ty Johnson may have been in front of you. Was that was it as simple as that. Maybe Zach Wilson just kind of overshot

at you. We are Yeah, well I'm not so sure what they was trying to do, But all I know was the ball was in the end we was out. My job to make a play on it and after what we had to get done. And we always talk about making taking advantage of the opportunity when they come our way, and I think he did a good job of that. And those takeaways were obviously huge in the game. Juwan Um, you know, you really gave the offensive list.

The offenses needed some help today to get some points on the board, and you guys were consistently able to do that. What was the key to sort of, I would say, hurrying Zach Wilson around and allowing him because he obviously got a little bit flustered and through something to you what was the key to getting some pressure on him? Just the first one. We definitely always talk

about playing complimentary football. He has an entire team, but defensively, we always we know Zack he's a great athlete of quarterback that we know he wants to like get in space and likes to throw the ball and things like that. So our job just when we had an opportunity to get him on the ground, just to make something happen.

I think we did a solid job of that. But our job of the defense just to play complimentary football, calls turnovers and put our offensive position to make put and I think we did a solid Jovatan today we're talking with Juan Bentley. Juwan, you guys did a real nice job. I think against the run game. That's a good running team there with the Jets, even without their

start running back. Um, you can you talk about the playoff in front of you and how the how the big guys looked and what that if that made your job any easier there on the second level, Yeah for sure. First of all, shout out to my big guys up front. Uh, we were definitely rely on them guys heavy expicially when it comes to running football teams. I think it did a solid job today. They just have a lot of dynamic money back that bring a lot of different things

to the table. So us being able to step up and make and make plays as well as tackling uh

these dynamic moneyfacts was big for us. So for us to get that done, it's definitely each Obviously that that run defense that you guys just talked about join, that's that was a big part of the success today for you guys on that side of the ball were you were a little surprised that, you you know, just looking at the statue at the end of the game, it's forty one pass attempts for Zach Wilson only fifteen rushing attempts.

Do you think that was more because you guys were so successful stopping the run earlier, You're little prize they didn't. They didn't try to try the lock running the ball a little bit more often when it comes to getting on the other side of understanding their game plan, I'm not too sure about about all that, But I just know when when we had an opportunity to be able to stop the different run plays, to do a good job of drawing up different scheme plays for different teams, uh,

to kind of get that run game going. So we just knew when the opportunity showed up, we had to make it happen. As far as them passing the ball as must really did, we don't. We don't have too much control over the album. But we just knew, uh, when a schoolboy hit a certain moment, they probably gonna throw the ball a little bit more. So hopefully that played a part. All Right, we'll leave it right there, Juan, congratulations on the win. Enjoy the rest of the night.

I appreciate it. Have a good one, all right. Dad's Joan Juwan Bentley, linebacker for the Patriots there as they come away with a twenty two seventeen win over the Jets, doing large part to the defense, and you know that that whole unit's ability to really get after in the flumming Zack Wilson, although as you pointed out, you know it was one thing when Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts because he couldn't figure out what the coverage. Well, yeah,

I don't think Zach Wilson got confused at all. He saw the ghost, but he was like staring him down and throwing it right. He's trying to throw the ball away and he doesn't do it properly all the time, which I thought that was what made it, you know, so strange um or at least away from people. You know, I'm throwing it away, I'm running like he would get he would get himself out of trouble, out of the pocket run away, which now allows him to throw it

away anywhere. And at least three times he threw it in a general direction of Patriots and one of them he got away with and two of them he didn't. So, yeah, this was not like the Sam Donald game where he's like confused and throwing it into a dropping guy or someone falling into a zone or whatever. This was. I just thought this was really, uh, just just three or four I don't think it's funny. I don't think he was like completely terrible all game. But they were about

ten or twelve plays. I mean, that's obviously a huge amount, right, there were about ten or twelve plays. He looked like he had never played the position before. A couple of little throw us to the backs in the flat that he couldn't get to them. The throw at the end of the half that Bentley picked off was inexcusable. Yeah, that's an easy throw and catch for a first down, and they're going to get points at the end of the half. Instead, you give the Patriots points at the

end of the half. You know, game game changing kind of plays, and you know these are these are the things that Zach Wilson's still trying to learn. Yeah, Oh, I thought he looked like last year's Jets game there, and it was that it was that same game where he was just throwing him left and right. Like I was laughing at myself the same way I was last year, like you gotta be Kidney. He's just I don't get it. I don't get it with him. And if I was a Jets fan, I imagine i'd be, you know, beside myself,

because I think he had an opportunity. Today, I'd be more upset with with Sala and Michael Lafloora because I think that they decided that they wanted to do it like Cleveland did a couple of weeks ago, and say, well, we're not going to be able to run it on him because they're expecting us to run it. So we're gonna be tricky and we're going to throw it all over the place. And when you don't have a team that can do that, you're gonna lose. And today you're right, Mike,

that they lost the game. You know, they they handed the opportunity for all those points two the Patriots because they refused to run the ball. If they had just run the ball and punted, they would have had a very good chance to win that game too. If Wilson took a couple of sacks, if you if you say zero turned overs for the for the Jets today and just run the ball and punt, they would have had a very good chance to win the game today. Yeah,

that's a big gift because it didn't happen. But I just think it's another one of those coaches that I think sort of got you know, you know, like a little too tricky for his own good. Yeah, it would appear that way, and uh, you know, for a team that had that kind of momentum playing at home, which isn't really much for the Jets this year. Jets are one and three at home. All three of their losses are at home. They've won four games on the road and are just much better, it seems like when they're

when they're playing away from MetLife. And that's interesting because you know, you come in with this wind streak and you have to edge, and that those fans were fired up, and I feel like I don't want I don't know if the Patriots took the fans out of the game. But I think just like, did you ever feel like the fans were a factor? Like I felt like it

was just a quiet day. I thought the fans were a factor until that roughing the passer call, and I thought that really I thought that really really took took the window. I think that there was a collective with still the Jets on that play, like, we have a chance here to to be we have a chance here to finally, you know, establish ourselves as a playoff team. And then I think they said was still the Jets, Yeah, bad things are going to happen to us in key spots.

And you know that's what happened, you know, those those personal fouls. I like, I don't even like the call that they had on mostly which which you know started a drive that ended up with no points anyway, But that was a huge field position drive. Um, you know, he was short, he's running, he's diving for the first down, and he got hit not in the head, And I don't really even know what they called. I mean, Gene Stator came on and he clearly didn't agree with the

call either. So I think there was a lot of that with the Jets, Like I could, I could see being a Jets fan today and just deciding halfway through we're not winning this game. Like every time we were in position to take control of the game, something bad happens and I could see the Jets this saying we're still the Jets and we still suck. Yeah, there was a very real sense of same old Jets going on there. I was getting text from a buddy that I went

to college with him. He was like Jet beside himself the whole game. I'm sure with all the with all the things they were doing. Um, I mean listen, it was a one score get you know, they they're down there in the and made that a one score game with that last touchdown. Well, and they would down the other time before that's drawing the ball into the end zone. They just couldn't make any place. Yeah, um, it was.

It was really it could have gone either way. Like they play again in two three weeks, right, uh, two weeks too, well, it's three because of the bye three they play Indie. Then they have a bye right yeah, Indie buy Jets, right not not by next week Indie buy Jets. Yeah, So they got to win them both. I mean, the Patriots have to win all three of these games, and it won't be easy. And based on what you saw today, you know it will not be easy. I didn't see anything today that I feel like as well.

They own the Jets, They're gonna beat them NET in two week like this is no problem. They don't have to worry about this team. I don't think that game in two weeks at Gillette could be a could be a real barnburner. And I don't mean like a really fun exciting game, but like a grind it out got a win by one schools like today. Yeah, Deuce, do you want to kick us off on the on the bad list? Oh right, yeah, I'm gonna keep it going.

I mean, I know we have Mac at first. I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna lean into the past protection end of it. Um. I just think it's been atrocious all year long. I thought, Paul, you're you know, your comments from from PU about cold strange kind of came home to roost a little bit today And wouldn't you know, there's Isaiah Win playing guard bench. I just I think I get the past protection issues, and I'm stuck between knowing Mac doesn't look like he feels comfortable at all.

And I don't know to blame Mac for that or to blame the past protection, because I think they're both at fault at various times. But you know, overall, I just think that they haven't established a pocket consistently this season anywhere close to enough. And until they do that, I don't know if you're ever going to see Mac Jones find any confidence in the pocket or any ability to you know, go through a read without talking and running. And I mean those were some of their best plays

once again or you know, Mac on the run. So I just think they got it. They got to figure out an answer on the past protection stuff, said Yanny Caduce, given him a try or what. But now you got winning a guard. Now you got cool strange kind of wondering what's going. I'm sure he'll be back in there, but it's just been a mess. Wow, And Carolina just missed a thirty three yard field goal and overtime. This

is just bad. Um. Yeah, I think you make a great point, Deuce about Mac's role in the past protection, because I thought there were times early that he was under siege and got sacked, and then I thought there were times where he kind of had a decent pocket, and he was holding, holding, holding, and then got sacked. And then there were other times I thought he was just running for no reason. And he's not a runner. I know he ran once for a first down today. Great,

I don't think that that's his forte. I don't think that's what he's gonna make a living doing. And I thought I thought the tackles were bad a guy. I thought Marcus Cannon was really bad in this game. I thought um cole Strange obviously lost his job after a while. I just thought they had some trouble overall in this game with pass protection. I think you you know the fact that you have to put Isaiah win in the

game at left guard. I think um is telling yeah, um cole Strange in particular, I mean you sort of mentioned it without David Andrews in the middle. He kind of looked lost out there, and uh gave you saw it. You saw his face and you saw Cannon's face way too much. And I thought, I thought David Andrews has played really, really well. And I also thought, and I don't know if it's a different name now, but I'm gonna just continue to call him Michael all when you.

Oh yeah, what is that actually right? So? I thought he played well. I thought he played well today. I saw a couple of times where he was he was knocking his guys around a little bit, you know, and I listen, I'm not an expert. I saw a couple of plays replays where I I you know, they showed him and he looked like he was pretty effective. But they had some problems elsewhere along that offensive line. They're

gonna have to figure out right tackle. Mike is right about Jandi ka just I don't know if he can give them anything, but right now they're searching for answers. Um other badge? Can I go? Sure? The rest of the wide receiver group other than Jacoby Myers, I thought they had a real hard time getting open. I didn't think that they were I know, right, I mean, did they even go out there? Tequon Thornton one catch, Aglar one catch for two yards, um DeVante Parker got hurt,

so he gets to pass here. Kendrick Borne targeted once, no catches. It's like they weren't even there. Yeah, I agree with you. I think that's a good one thing. Kendrick was kind of a breakout game today. I think that's a little just a little bit short. Yeah, I mean he had opportunities, he just wasn't. I just think they had a hard time. And I think the pick the Jets front uh you know Front four controlled the game.

Uh you know really from start to finish. Um, you know, the Pagrits ended up with two hundred and eighty eight yards of offense in this game. I mean, if not for taking over in scoring position four times, they would have been hard pressed to get ten points in that game. So they had a long way to go still, Um, all right, any more bad. I thought the secondary wasn't great in this game. It just they they got bailed out by a quarterback who's not ready to take it

full advantage. But um, as it was, he threw for three hundred and fifty five yards and it wasn't all garbage time. There was only one play at the end, m you know there that that was you know, really tilted the numbers play. Yeah. I mean I thought Garrett Wilson was open consistently, Um you know, that was the guy, and they were missing their number one target, um in Corey Davis. So yeah, I thought the secondary wasn't great in this game. I don't know if you guys feel

like I'm being a little bit too hard on him. Yeah, I totally agree with you, Paul, And I thought that there were I can't see the all twenty two on the broadcast, but it looked like there were guys open. Um, there's one particular playoff this team that I was like, there it is, and he missed it. I think he missed a lot of throws. You have the big plays, giving up that play to men's at the end. I mean, that's just, you know, come on, we get guys down,

they close things out. I thought that the defense was, you know, overall okay considering who they're playing against. But I'm with you, I think nothing that they did today made me think that all that they're you know, got it on lockdown now or anything like that. Yeah, the run defense was better, but I didn't think really anything else was was markedly better from what I had seen in the recent past, you know, the Chicago game. Um. I also think we should spend some time talking about

some coaching decisions today that I thought were kind of strange. Um. Fourth and one from your twenty one from the twenty one, you pass up a field goal in a game that had already had all the year marks of a low scoring game. I think points were valuable. Okay, so you go for it, and you know, I understand the whole notion. Well, we we had a play we felt good about, right, that was the play they felt good about. What exactly

was the goal on that? The little play action fake in a role and there's like a one man right, I don't know. It just looked terrible. Look like an RPO gun wrong. Yeah, it did look like an RPO gune. Wrong. I'd be curious to hear how Evan describes that one. I'm thinking the same thing. I'm like, I don't even know how to describe what that was. I'm like, was

it like a play action? It was like he pulled it up and then he like Hunter Henry looked open for like a moment, and then Jacobe was going one way. They threw it the other way. I'm with you on that on that play call, I mean, and it's just you know, it's a understand what kind of game you're in, Like, that's my point points on the board. You need it? Yeah, I would throw in after the pick six that was

nullified by the penalty, what do we do? Then they get a penalty, and then he just decides, like if you don't trust your quarterback that much at that time, that you're running two dive plays to vermondre Stevenson, followed by mac Jones taking a snap and running to the middle of the field to take a knee to set up a field goal. Like, I didn't understand what that was either. I mean, if you have that little faith and what's going on, maybe it's time to make a change.

And then what I thought was really egregious, Mike, And you probably won't remember this because you're probably unconscious by the time you got to this part of the game. But it's twenty two to ten, twenty two to whatever it was, Yeah, twenty two to ten, and the Patriots have the ball and around their own twenty five yard line, about a seven or eight minutes left, and again the game's over for all intents and purposes, as long as

you don't do something stupid. He comes out and throws a bomb down the sideline to Jacobe Myers incomplete, followed by a sack on the next play, followed by a little dump off over the middle, and then I have to hear when they punt and the Patriots before they punt, they allowed the play clock to go all the way down to one before they snapped it. And I have to hear Charles Davis telling me what a great how well coached they are because they let the playclock go down.

They could have taken two minutes off the clock if they had just run the ball three times instead of getting you a quarterback lit up again for the sixth time of the game in a blowout, and then I just did that seem like the best way to milk the clock, throw a bomb and then have your quarterback get sacked. I don't think that was about milking the clock. I think that was about giving Mac a chance to go out there and have a drive where you can throw and he couldn't. I mean, it's you know, so

I had three things that I just like. First, I put fourth and one what with a question mark late first half travesty I wrote? And then I just wrote coaching question mark at the end when they did it for the third time, I think that deserves second guessing. I don't know, maybe I'm being nitpicky after a win. It's not the first time I'll get made fun of for that. Well, I mean, I'll piggyback a little bit on your fall because I just I mean I put

the coaching just generally offensive coaching. You know, whatever you want to however you want to give it up. We don't know exactly what it is, so we'll just put it on all of them. But I'm watching this offense since August. It's the same thing. I mean, it's just there's no real progression right now, and I'm not sure what they're doing. I mean, we can talk about Mac, we can talk about Patricia, we can talk about the play calls. Regardless of what it is. Other than Remondre Stevenson,

there's nothing consistent or good about this offense. I completely agree. If not for like an incredible individual effort by Ramandre Stevenson to break three tackles in the backfield and run thirty five yards, that game might still be going. Like there was no separation in that game. That play, that singular played by Ramondre Stevenson was the difference, Like they couldn't get it, Like, you know, you could talk about

the temple they used. After that, they did have a nice throw and catch, though the one catch by Thornton. I thought was the best looking pass play the Patriots had all day. In all seriousness that I thought that was terrific Playum, you know, Mac looked confident on his back foot, bang the balls out like twelve yard out. Nice, you know, but that was it they had, not like

they had no rhythm. I think, Mike, you would tweeting during the game about like everything is a grind, Like how many plays did they have in this game where they got the first down by a half a yard on a ball that was thrown about four yards behind the line, behind the line the game, you know, and there and you're like greeting your teeth is as like Johnny Smith get it by like right, you know, and give them credit for getting enough yards to win the game.

But like in terms of an offensive plan, I'm not sure where it was. And it's like you talk about

you get to this point in the season, Paul. You've heard Bill Belichick's day it all the time, right, Like, you know, you get the six seven games mid October late October, you start to understand what you have and the Jets are good And I will say the Jets are good on defense, Like I'm not discounting that the Jets are the Jets are a good defensive team, and they played really well defensively today, But I've seen that offense more often than not. This is just there's no

identity to this offense at all. There's been no progression. Um, I don't know where they're heading and where where they go from now. It's I don't know. I feel like we saw it similarly. Um. It's just it's frustrating because other than Stevenson, you don't really have anything that you feel like, here's what we can build off of. I mean, like Christian said, you came out of the game with like two guys basically catching all the balls, and one of them was the running back who did all them

work carrying the ball. Yeah. I mean, if we if we were worried about him being a little worn down the last couple of weeks, I mean, that was a pounding he took today. He didn't get any easy yards in that game. Boy. Yeah, six for nineteen on third down. I mean that's dreadful. And I think they were like something like four for their first six, right, well, but I mean every drive is like six seven. I mean,

if they if they're even able to get them. They're multiple third danks because there's no really well that's yeah, that's why they had nineteen attempts. Right from the first drive of the game, Mike, they take over on the forty five yard though the Jets had a twenty two yard punt on their first possession, allowing the Patriots to set up shop first and ten from the Jets forty five, three and out. Like they took over inside the Jets forty like four times and came away with six points.

Like it was bad. I mean even on the second drive pot me, I was just looking at it, writing it on my notes, like a third and ten, a third and eleven, a third and five, like another third down that they didn't get, Like, so four third downs. I mean, you're asking so much of an offense that's already so limited. How many third down play calls the napishers that have on that cart of his, Like by the middle of data second quarter, he's probably called ninety

percent of them? Yeah, I mean that's why, you know, and I listen, I started off the whole show. I said, no, no style points. I'm not you know, I'm just looking big picture. Today they had a win and they won, but there's a lot of things that would like all the things that concern me heading into the game remain huge concerns for me. By the way, quick red zone update, the Falcons got a game winning field goal from young way Coup and they improved the three and four good

enough for first place in the NFC South. So congratulations to them. Very nice, very nice for the Falcons, and or maybe another four and four right, because I don't think this is updated yet, but either way, I think they are four and four and other puts them ahead of the Bucks at three and five. Yes, well, you know, very very strong division there, as the Panthers had a chance in overtime, didn't didn't take it, and the Falcons end up winning that game and now leading in the division.

So there you go if you were looking for a red zone update. All right, I think we got all our goods and our bads out of the way injured. Well obviously, um a bunch of guys went in the tent today. Stevenson went in the tent, Myers went in the tent. Obviously, Parker left the game, but it seemed like a lot of guys were I don't know, stepping awkwardly landing, awkwardly coming down sort of on their on their knee, getting twisted. I saw Mac at one point and on one of the sacks, it looked like his

leg got twisted around a little bit. It seems like these guys are just I don't know, maybe it's just bad luck, but it seemed like there maybe it was good luck in this case, and none of them had any real serious injuries other than Parker. Yeah, I didn't realize Myers was in the tent. Um I missed that. Um, but yeah, there was some guys. You know, Stevenson obviously finished the game. Yeah, so um, whatever he was dealing

with wasn't severe enough that he wasn't ask too. Maybe it wasn't Myers in the tent Maybe he was getting like rubbed down. Remember that Phillips. Phillips was too at one point, but I don't think he missed any time. So yeah, this was a physical game. I Like I said, I give the Jets defense a lot of credit. They will put on the field in a lot of bad, bad situations today, And to only allow twenty two points

in that situation I thought was really good. Yeah what what I'm kind of wondering is what's the extent of the Parker injury? Does that impact their potential trade options? You know, I mean you didn't see anything out of Bagalore or Born in the game as well, So you know, how do those factors kind of come into things over the next two days as the trade deadline comes down. Yeah, it's a good point, a real good point for you. Um. I guess Bill Belichick's talking right now. We'll hear from

him in just a minute. We'll be hearing from Mac Jones a little bit later on as well. Um, Doug Kie just tweeted that Romandri ste Stevenson had seventy one rushing yards today. He uh, eight yards after contact. They can't know eighty one yards after contact. How could he have seventy one rushing yards in eighty one yards after contact? I guess maybe on some of the passes too, But yeah, he was. He was really tough to bring down. I'm

not smart enough to do PF math. Yeah, um, but yeah, I mean he was the he carried, he carried the day. He reminds me of a thing I saw last night. Mike. You'll like this, you know, every once and I like

to delve into like nonsensical non sequitis. So I'm out last night at a restaurant, Mike waiting, waiting for Beth, and I'm watching a college football game and uh, they put up it's Illinois and Nebraska playing, and at the time, Illinois had like a twenty to nine lead, and they put up a graphic the first four drafts Nebraska four four first four possessions, something like twenty eight plays, two

hundred and whatever yards and ten points. And I'm like, hmm, how did they have ten points on the first four drives but only have nine points in the game? Did I miss PF math again? Seriously it said they had ten points on their first four drives. No points since so did they lose a point because they was so bad offensively in the last four drives they deducted a point? Yes, yeah, So anyway, I didn't get it, but I gotta stay. Overall, not a strong day for the downstairs. I mean you

mentioned the Ona Wanu thing. Uh they're talking about the on Mac with with the penalty on U the linebacker. Sorry, I'm blanking on his Then when he came over C J. Mosley, you know they always hit him in the handlet he didn't he supposed to do. He's trying to get the right of the game. You're right there, like supposed to the tack room, but avoid his head while he goes to the ground. Yeah, when he's not. He clearly was not. They kept saying he was giving himself up. He clearly

was not. And to Max, to Max's credit, by the way, Mack is saying, I need to get to the twenty to get this first down. I can't give myself up, and he didn't. But he got built out with the penalty anyway, and that like that didn't lead to any points because that drive ended up in the fourth down stop. But that allows like a whole change of field position. All that time goes off the clock that the Patriots have the ball in the Jets defense is forced to work. Uh. Yeah.

Not a great day by the announcers. Not a great great day for the officiating crew either. I think when Matt got hit by Mosley, I thought it was I thought there was going to be your prod because he went he it sort of was like one of those hits where he just kind of stopped in his tracks and he was like, you know, halfway down on his knees, and I thought, oh no, I don't know if you heard at a time, Like I wasn't sure at halftime, Duce, I'm not sure you heard it. But Boomer was openly

wondering why he was still in the game. Yeah, he felt like he felt like there was a you know, a moment where he laid down, you know, with his like are we going that far now? Because the guy takes a hard hit, he has to come out of the game. Like, I mean, I'm not telling you he didn't did or didn't have a concussion or anything, but like we're just gonna automatically assume guys that get hit have a concussion. And I saw what he was talking about, though, but I felt that was more like one of those

like mac dramatics, dram mackticks. I guess you could call it. Oh yeah, you know that he kind of does when he goes down where he you know, like all of a sudden slumps like he was dead for like a millisecond. But yeah, it's funny because you're right, like, what did he gets caught doing that like with his you know, little antics and then all of a sudden you're out

of the game. Concussion protocol, trying to pull up right, I did the h I did the Mike mac Jones voice on the fourth down that they went forward and got the touchdown. Did you see him when he gestured to the sideline like we got, like he was saying with going for it, Ye, we'll go win, We'll go win. Yeah? Yeah, all right. If he didn't kick anybody in the he did not, not that we saw anyway. If he did it, he did it off camera. All right, there you go.

There's you're good, you're bad, and you're injured. Here is the Patriots come away with a twenty two seventeen win over the Jets and MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. It was again not a pretty win, but a win's win. Patriots now up, but five hundreds, still in last place. They had no chance of getting out of last place in the division with a win or a loss or anything today. Right, they didn't even get into a tie. Right, but there's the one step closer as the Jets now

fall to five in three. The Dolphins won today and uh one of the Bills play they played tomorrow tonight? Are they're playing to tonight? That is correct? Yeah, they're playing Green Bay to night. You're right about that. Um, all right, we have we can't take calls because we're gonna lose Douce, so we want to take some emails. Well you're gonna lose me soon anyway, so all right, yeah, well, well we'll kiss Deuce goodbye and um, so we could we could take the calls. Um, we can't put him

on hold, can we? So we can match us? Threw up his hand. All right, Well we'll try. You know, if Mike feels better, you can call back in later. Okay, let's get to the calls because they've been waiting. All right, let's go ahead and do that. We'll start with Eddie, who is in Alabama and has been waiting very very patiently. Eddie, thanks for waiting. How you doing all right? How y'all doing doing great? All right, Hey, Paul made like half my point already. But it's like bigger than what he said.

Belichick does not like he has no faith in Mac. It's like on the on the second drive of the game, where you know, they had third and goal from the seventeen, they do not throw the ball in the end zone. They ran a you know, vermondre for five yards like I predicted in my mind before that play, and it was like I didn't have a huge problem with that one. But yeah, I mean in the in the scope of the game, when they clearly had exhibited, UM several times

that they weren't thrilled with the way that things were going. Yeah, I agree. But like it's like psychological too, because like he pulled back last game and it was like, you know, you got to show confidence in him, like let him throw the ball into the end zone, yo, Yeah, at least have faith that you will throw it out of the back of the end zone if no one's open. Right.

They didn't even do that, right, No, I agree, But I mean I'm just saying from the seventeen, the way the pass rush was going the seventeen, you know, third and goals a very low percentage of play. Um. But yeah, I agree with you. I think that he's the way that Bill coached today. He coached like a guy. He coached the way Robert Sala should have coached. Um. He coached like a guy that wasn't really comfortable with his quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, Ala did the same thing. I think, like I said,

we'd still be playing. Yeah, you're right, about that, and it's probably been built up nine to nine. Um, Daniel is in Springfield. Go ahead, Daniel, all right, Daniel, sorry, buddy party, Let's try Big te who was in Florida. Go ahead, big Tea. What's up? Guys? What's up? Big Tea?

Conspiracy theory? I like it. When the Patriots signed Cam Newton from twenty twenty one before the draft and Matt Jones miraculously dropped a fifteen, don't you think that Belichick was thinking one of those running quarterbacks Lance or Fields was going to drop to him. I think, well, he had every opportunity to take Fields if he wanted to field.

He was available at eleven. Gone up. But but I'm just saying like that, like genius was letting, but Chicago went from twenty to eleven, so you ease, he could have gone from fifteen to eleven for less than what Chicago. So so if you wanted Justin Fields, he was there for the taking. So I don't think they wanted Justin Fields. I just had a field and that signing Cam that was kind of the going to be their guy that would teach the new guy coming in. But anyway, I'm

a Mac guy. I think Mac is fine. Yeah, I think they signed Cam just to make sure they had a quarterback and if they if they weren't able to draft one, you know, I think things would have been different. I think Cam would have been there to play. Like, there's no guarantee it at fifteen, you were going to get one of those quarterbacks, right, So I think they signed Cam just in case they weren't able to get one. Um. Yeah, I think you're right about that, and they did it

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phone calls? Want to read some emails? What do you feel like doing your play? Howhy don't you take the calls first and then maybe Mike can call back in and rejoin us. Does he have to? Well? I think I think that's what he's thinking. All right, let's go to David, who was in New York. Ahead, David, Hey, guys, that's a going it's going fair to Midland. Well, uh,

sorry for the connection issues on Monday and night. You missed my Monday and I ran I was about to do maybe I spared you, But it's a new week. Feels good to beat a division rival, although I still feel a bit uneasy overall about the whole the whole situation. The takeaways were nice, but it is Zach Wilson that we did it against. I'm still not convinced of either our offense, especially a red zone offense, and really our defense in general. Um, yeah, I'd agree that wasn't really

a reassuring victory. Yeah, I mean yeah, And I don't want to sound overly negative, but it is one of those games that it's hard to feel great about other than the fact that the season still you know, we still have a season. I think if they lost at three and five, you know, you'd be hard pressed to get back in and given the tough schedule they're going to have down the stretch. But it's hard to feel

great about the way that game unfolded, I know. And it's weird because it was a division win, it was on the road. It may have saved the season by getting him back to four and four, and we're all still sitting here going like, well, because here's the thing is, And I wasn't the only one that said it. Everybody said that the Jets were five and two, but they were a fake five and two, and they really didn't

do anything to deserve it. So you can't, you know, in retrospects, say no, that was five and two on the road they beat No, you can't say that, because the Jets were exactly what they've been. You know, they're they're good defensively, and they're they're challenged offensively, and then they fell behind and they had to have their quarterback throw when he can't and that's why you won the game. Yeah. True, is let's go to speed. Who is in Fresno? What's

up Speed? It's going on? I guess Scepter. Last week it was with the Bears. You know, we learned it's not like we can beat that team. Maybe now it's like we can sometimes beat teams that play badly, which is not that great a place to be. I wanted to know. It's kind of like a question for fred Um, is this is this kind of a moral loss a moral loss? No, because that's because I think they had to win the game and they did. I understand what you're saying, but I'm not I've got a big fan

of the moral victories and the moral defeats. I mean, if this happened against like Carolina, maybe, I mean, I just like, I know a lot of people are like when they you know, they lose to Green Bay in overtime and it's like that was like a win. No, well a weird. It's like what the Jets did in Green Bay, right, they won. They had more points than at the end of the game. And by the way, that's why you're behind them. So when you win, like

it's it's it's there's nothing you don't give it back. Yeah, we're just trying to have a little fun with them more. It is a stupid concept, but I had one other one. Um wi um, he's kind of an amazing story this this year. And I'm I'm just asking putting out there in the ether, can you guys do like a little like deep dive on him or just kind of kind of figure out what like interview him or something, figure out why it is that he thinks his season has

been so special. We interviewed him two weeks ago last time I was here, he was our player, and I asked him I have I didn't ask him exactly that, but I said, you know, you're really kind of blown up this year. Uh is this? You know? And he's a late bloomer too. Dietrich wise, like for his first couple of years in the NFL was largely inconsequential. In this year, he's been a major factor on that on that front, right, Um, all right, let's try uh Maddox,

who was in Washington? What's up? Maddox? Uh yo? Uh, I will say the D line like you were saying. Uh, the D line has been absolutely like it has been as since I feel like since that Jude On signing last year, our d line has just gotten absolutely it's it's it's like one of the best in the league. I would say, at least to me, I maybe a Patriots defensive line still. I mean to me, maybe there's

a little bit of biased there. But overall, I mean, I mean, you do you don't get it, but he's leaving the league in sacks, I mean, and then you have other people coming off the edge. I mean that's a very big upgrading. And um but on offense, like our offense is, I feel like there's almost kind of like a disconnect between I feel between like the players both with the mac Jones and then daily Zappy comes back and forth in UM and I feel like that's kind of throwing people off. I feel like that if

you guys get guys kind of get what I'm saying. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I don't know if I agree that the defensive line is the best in the league. I think last week didn't happen apparently, yeah right, I mean they didn't do much last year. The defensive line couldn't do much against justin fields. I do think they played great today, and they've had other examps. They were okay today, I thought were good. The Jets. Yeah, no, I think they're okay. But the Jets didn't run the

ball like they ran the ball fifteen times. I think when they ran it the Patriots deep of line. I think you you called him out to as being on the good list, and I would agree with you. M Christian. I thought the Jets that the Jets didn't run the ball well enough to continue to run it, and I think that was because of the Patriots front. But I mean the last time we saw them, they got run all over and that's three times this year that that's happened in eight games. Yeah, I mean, I think Matthew

Geedon has been an effective pass rusher. I don't really look at him as a defensive lineman and look at him as more of a linebacker. But that would be about it. That would be where where it ends for me. I think Dietrich Wise has had a nice season, but I don't think you're going to confuse him with some of the better players in the game. The Jets are also down four starting tackles and Elijah Vera Tucker right if you didn't and breecelife. You didn't stop him today.

You weren't stopping anyone ever. Yeah, that's another good point. Um. They're a nice little trick play for the San Francisco forty nine ers with a touchdown pass I think from Jeff Wilson to Brandon Ayuk to tie that game at seven in la very nice. It's still weird to see McCaffrey on the Niners, isn't it. That's really weird. Every once in a while I get traded or something. He's on a new team. You see him in the jersey and it's like, really, McCaffrey on the Niners as weird

as hell to me for some reason. Um, we got Duce back with Upduce. Hey, guys, I'm back. Good, glad to have you a little while. I know it's a grind for all of us today, but hey, credit to us. How about putting all us all on the on the on the uplift today? You know they should have interviewed us after they are you now weird a Dodgers hat? What are you doing? Ye? Sorry, I have issues. My

took was getting too cold, was getting too hot for me. Paul, Oh, okay, I didn't have a. I didn't have a handy Danny Patriots hat. So you know this is I'll get you a Fenwick football hat to wear next week. I'll take it outside. I might have to buy a holy Cross football hat after that performance yesterday. I don't know if

you guys talked about that yet. Probably I'm guessing. Um. I don't remember talking about that, but I do remember earlier in the show due saying that I wouldn't be surprised if because I hear that you get mistaken for Zolac a lot. Is that correct? Oh? Once? I like la once, But yeah I'm not. I'm nowhere near no. But you can be if you could go to Vegas and be like a zolak impersonator, you know what I mean, Like you could wresting right you jump out of a

plane and you know what I mean. Just you know you're the Zolac guy. You could You could do that, definitely, you got you got to. I could do parties in New England. Hey, It's like I'm Scot lak impersonator. I'll come to your party and be like yeah, and I'll play you know, Josie while I come out of my car. Yeah, pump everybody up, and um, that sounds great. Paul. If you were wondering what we talked about when you went to to go do your hit there in the pregame,

it was it was this. It was this, Paul Might five five, Pats five hundred is the phone number web radio at Patriots dot com. We'll be hearing from Bill Belichick in a few minutes. He spoke now for very long. I think he only spoke for a few minutes, four minutes. So yeah, when we when we're able to, will we'll throw to that and uh and hear from him. Will also hear from Mac Jones. I'd be interested in you what he thinks about this game and how he played today.

I mean, I don't think you get a win, you feel good about that, but you know, he continued, it wasn't his fault, but he continued his interception streak. Um, he was outplayed in a lot of way. Let's pump the brakes on. It wasn't his fault that he didn't He did his best, He did his best to throw three. Well, yeah, sure, but I'm saying the actual interception, Yeah, the actual interception

on him. I thought, yeah, it was more on him, but like I think Deuce's point earlier about his pocket awareness today, the fumble was on him, you know, not every strip sack is the fault of the offensive line, and that fumble was totally avoidable. Yeah, I think his presence in the pocket. I think Mike made a really good point about that earlier. There was one play the question yes ahead, just when he threw that pick stick. I mean, did you lose your mind like I did?

I just I couldn't believe that that play. I thought Bailey Zappy would play the second half Mike, and I'm not kidding. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, It's just it's too much of that. It's continuing. I mean it's been that way through the season. I don't get why he's got these

brain parts now. And I mean we can talk about pushing the ball down the field and all this kind of stuff, but like what happened to Mac Jones the last year, who just made better decisions, Like, you know, I don't need to get all caught up in the new show. Yeah, and today wasn't. And to you a point like, today wasn't like oh we're chucking it all over the place, we're going downfield. Everything was underneath today and that pick. You know, the pick six was just

an out. I mean it wasn't like a you know, a downfield shot play or anything like that. Like he's fighting through whatever. You know. I don't know what the reasons are. I'm not smart enough to know, you know, the ins and outs as to what's going on. But he's not comfortable, and I don't think every looked settled in that game today. No, I don't think so either.

And one thing about having a second year quarterback who was a pro bowler in the first year is that you really start looking for improvement in progression in the second year. And even with this win, I feel like there was no improvement, no real progression. He's the same guy, if not maybe a little worse than he was last year because of the injury and the new coaches and

the new offense and all that stuff. But not one time, really even one quarter this year, have I looked at mac Jones and thought, man, he's really taking that next step, He's really improving, He's really becoming the quarterback that can lead this team into the next generation. Like I just it's no, there's been no indication of that this year. Yeah, we were talking about but like you hoped, like coming into the season, you know, coming into the preseason in

the summer, and you're watching it. All right, it's a little punky right now, but like, all right, they're doing it to get to a place where they need to be. And I still generally agree that you can't just run short stuff and think that you're going to be able to compete in this NFL. But it's just the lack of progression, the lack of identity on offense, the lack of anything other than they're just grinding it out at four point two yards to play, and that's what it's like.

Down sixteen plays to go sixty yards. I mean, it's just too much. And I don't know what the answer is. I don't know what pieces you pull out of this whole game and say, oh, this is what we can build off of. I mean, other than Ramondras Stevenson, it's like, man, you're just you're just hoping to survive your own passing game.

We were talking about during the game, even when he had a pocket and had rohim to throw, you know, there was only a few of those plays, but when he had him, he was still fading away, still off the back foot, still floating a lot, and you know, guys were open, Guys were there. I heard Mike say that earlier. The plays were there to be made, and he's just so uncomfortable and so in his own head that he's just not making them. And it's it's infuriating to watch because the plays are there to be made

and he's just not making them. Yeah, there was one play. We talked about this when it happened. You were talking about his pocket presence and like feeling the pressure. There was one play where there was a guy coming right at him and he just did holding the ball. That was the fumble that the Yeah, I mean that was um faked with a guy coming right in front of him. He pump faked. I don't know what Mac's peripheral vision

situation is like, apparently not good. How could you not see that he's right here, he's right on his on his hip. Yeah, And on one hand, you'd like to say, well, that's a good job of keeping your eyes focused downfield and not watching the rushes, but you have to have some awareness and when the ball, when you can't put the ball in harm's way. That was very fortunate, you know, not only the Patriots end up recovering that, but that

could have been like it's scorts free. When when you get fumbles like that to go behind the quarterback, there's no one there that's one that can get picked up and scooped, you know and going the other way in a hurry. M Fortunately, I think, you know, for the Patriots, they were able. One of the linemen was able to get on it. But this is what I said, like, you know, it's protect the ball, right, no turnovers, like they only turn it over once, but not for a

lack of trying. Those are plays where the quarterback gets knocked out sometimes too. He wasn't he didn't see the front side rush and we've killed other quarterbacks for that on this very show. And he got hit hard. It just hit him the right way. But he's been very loose with the ball and it's it's continuing. It's not getting any better, and they got to figure that out because it's gonna it's gonna cost him eventually. They can't.

I don't know that they've been lucky for what twenty two years now, but eventually that looks gonna run out. You're gonna yea yeah, I mean that that's that's a huge play in the game. Um. We talked about how Mac really zeroed in on Stevenson and Myers. You could say the same thing about Zack Wilson with Wilson and Conklin. In fact, Elijah Moore after the game, who was targeted once and did not come up with a catch, was asked about his chemistry with Jets quarterback Zach Wilson and said,

I don't get the ball. I don't know. Yeah. See this is this is the difference. Yeah, this is the difference between the New York media and most others. Yeah. Um, you know around here that that wouldn't even like would would have been a thing like this is a guy who expressed his displeasure a couple of weeks ago and then went out and was barely a part of the offense with their with their top receiver out, Um, and they immediately go to him like y, So what did

you think get your involvement today? It's just like New York, only New York. Yeah. I love Elijah more, but there's no denying the fact that the last couple of games he hasn't been a part of it. He was getting targeted a lot early now he's not even a part of the offense. Of course, maybe he was in the general vicinity and some of those throwaways that went to mccordy. Ah, yeah, it could have been. Devin mccordy had two of the

easiest interceptions of all time. I mean really just standing there. Yeah, we talked about behind the five yards behind where the past was supposed to go. And I gotta be honest, I'm not even sure how much I want to credit him, Um, you know, with with the picks. But yeah, I mean you had two picks and you know, they really even lead, They really didn't even lead to anything. I believe Devin

mccordy now is the active interception leader. Yeah, he passed Marcus Peters because I know on the first one they put the graphic up that he tied with Marcus Peters for the most want to sign him. He thought he was too old. You're too old, you know what. Mccordy was asked about being the active leader and he said, I'm just old. Yeah, I'm not sure he was in bounds on the second one either. Um, yeah, I don't think he was either that left foot. I think that

left with that sideline. This is another this is another bake sale game, you know when Bill says, maybe we can have a bake sale and raise some money so they can have more cameras. Um, all right, let's see eight five five Pats five hundred the phone number web radio at Patriots dot com if you would like to email in again. We're waiting on Bill Belichick and uh, well we'll hear from him and from Mac Jones in just a little bit. Um. The uh, the interceptions, the turnovers,

all of that. I mean, we talked about how we don't feel great about the offense. Was this the type of game where you feel great about the defense? Don't feel like you really feel great about anything, even the defense holding them to seventeen points. Oh, it's like I said, defensive the numbers are gonna look really good. But I don't think they played all that great. Yeah, I mean they weren't bad. I don't think they were bad defensively today,

But I don't think this was like Detroit. Right. You know when you shut down a bad offense, you know, you shut down an offense. This is an offense that can't move the ball, and they move the ball today. It's never goody Sorry that one drive that I think it was the second and third drive that was just an all third drive right down the field, bing bang boom, and the cuts. I mean that one was that was not good. That one, that one was I wanted to get the taste out of my mouth. I mean, they

did write the ship. But I think it's one of those games where unfortunately for them, they're top offensive lineman's out, they're superstar and budding rookie running back is out. I mean, it's just it's hard to take a lot out of this game. And I mean, I know next week will probably be somewhat of the same. Maybe we'll see about Jonathan Taylor, but you know, not a lot they could

prove in this one. I My questions are all kind of still on the board, and I think Paul nailed it with the stuff about the second area and just you know, some of the coverage stuff, and you know that it's just for a spell there. Early on in the season, I felt like, Wow, I hit a point where I'm like, the coverage is good. You know, like they seem like they're just they're competitive. They're not great,

but they're competitive. They're always there. Everything's got to be bang bang plays to get them, and I don't think that's been really the case the last few weeks. All Right, without any further ado, this man passed George hall Us and is now the second all time and wins for head coaches in the NFL. Bill Belichick from the podium. You know, the typical tough division game down here, and uh, yeah, give it Jets a lot of credit. Um, it's a

good football team. Really played well defensively. They give us, you know, plenty of problems, trouble at last quarter and a half. Really um doing much, really well, coached a good front and Mosley. You know, it was all over the field. I don't know how many tackles yet, it seemed like must have about fifteen or twenty. But um, you know, but we hung in there and um got got some enough players out of all three units offense, defense, special teams, and some big turnovers defensively and hit a

big play by pept cover the onside kick. And it was a kind of played they be Cleveland with I think it was in week two somewhere back there. Um, so good good division went on the road and uh, you know, good good Jets team. Uh they they do a good job, and I guess that defensively, they're they're tough. We knew that coming in and they certainly played to it. So good to you know, good to get out of here with the win, the vision and un we'll move on.

But um, proud of the way the team, you know, stepped up on a short week here and you know, came in and got the win today. So what did you see from Mac in the offense? It looked like that had a lot of fight, especially to start that third quarter and come out. Yeah. I mean it's a big, big halftime swing, really ten point swing for us. We got the field goal at the end of the first half on a last play and then and then uh you know, start a third quarter with points. So you know,

I thought Matt did a good job today. We got the ball out quickly. Um, we had gave up some pressure, but I thought he did a good job taking care of the ball. I mean, Stevenson obviously is um you know, just just tremendous back and makes a lot of yards you know, on his own, like nice all the yards after contact. But I thought Mac did it, did a

great job. Stevenson, Jacobe, Um, you know, some guys really step up for us and and uh, you know, make some plays offensively that that we needed, you know, and then again good good team defensive effort all the way around. We had a lot of pass rush, turn the ball over, tackled better, gave a couple of big plays. But like other than those, we you know, played played pretty competitively. So good fourth quarter team. You know, nobody's better than

Jets are in the fourth quarter. So hanging there with them in the fourth quarter was you know, we knew that was gonna be a challenge, and um it was, but you know, we we stepped up to it. So that was that was good. Bill. You recorded victory three twenty five, number two off. What does that mean to you? Just to be a part of history. Yeah, I'm able to talk about that when it's over, you know, add him up at the end here or whatever. But it's good to come down here and win, happy for our

team and and appreciate all though. You know, great players we've had that that I've won those games. You know, I had a couple of minute locker room there besides our players, you know, guys like Accordions Layer, Omeo, Troy Brown, those guys won a lot of games for for us for me. So, um, certainly those are team wins special special teams today seemed like other than maybe the one player where the touch back. Um, would you think of the performance? Yeah? Well Nick was you know, Nick was

great as usual. Um put it right down the middle. Thought we covered well had you know, Marks did a good job of the ball handling, got an explosive plan upunt return. UM, got a good plan to kickoff return on the miss hit kickoff. Uh, got it back up to the thirty five whatever it was. So U thought we took advantage of some opportunities and you know it was again that's best special teams unit in the league. Um. The Jets statistically, Uh, and they they played to it.

They're tough. But I thought we stepped up there and like I said, they you know, battle them and and made our share plays in the game. Could you tell if Jack got his hands on that field goal that they missed or I couldn't tell him? Mile is Mike clear? Sorry? When when you think about Mac handling the pressure that he was on Earth today, is it are you always impressed like with the toughness physically speaking, or is it more like the decision making that he's doing in those

are tuations. Decisions for sure, Yeah, decisions are sure. Max tough. There isn't there anything about the Max tough kid. But I thought he made good decisions. Manage the game well, manage our team well, um, and that's what a quarterback jobs to do, is to help the team win. That's what he did. Okay, right, thank you? All right, Okay,

there you go. That was Bill Belichick after the game from complimentary words there for Mac Jones, who didn't have a great game by any means, but certainly complimenting his toughness and his ability to sort of manage the game, which I didn't. I mean, he was tough. He took a couple of pops, and I definitely think he bounced right back from those. Yeah. I wasn't thinking with Bill like I know his toughness. You know, I don't question

his toughness, but I do question is to asion making today. Yeah, and the game management and all that, I thought that was all pretty questionable. But I do get the sense. And maybe I'm just you know, reading too far into it with Bill, I probably am that this is the direction he's gone. I don't think we're gonna see he's happy again for a while. I think he's going to have Mac out there and stick with him. And now that he's healthy and there's no reason to sort of,

you know, go back and forth anymore. I think it's all about building up max confidence, which they probably should have started a long time ago. But now here we are better late than never. Yeah, Like I said, I think that things could have gone a dramatically different direction at the end of the first half that picks six and then Bill's immediate response to that, because then they got down and they got a holding call which pushed him back and it was dive, dive, kneel on the ball,

kick a field goal. That told you right there that Bill was shook a little bit because I think that those calls. I think Bill says to Matt Patricia at that point, let's take the points here, not nothing stupid, Let's let's just take the points. So, I mean, I don't know. I didn't see a lot of great decisions today. I saw some. I'm not saying I didn't see any. I didn't see a lot of great decisions under pressure today.

I thought he did a good job a couple of times climbing the pocket moving around buying some time, but I saw other times where he looked affected by the pass rush and um and reacted accordingly. This is kind of a weird hypothetical, But if Zappy played in this game, how do you think he would have done with that pressure? Yeah, I think it could have been really really ugly. Sure if it's the same. Like, I don't know, Like I think he deals with pressure a little bit better. Though.

I think he would have gotten sacked fifteen times today. Wow, that would have been better than throwing it away. I mean, I don't know. I guess I think he would have taken a lot more sacks than Mac did. I think Mac did a good job of moving around at times. Um, I feel like Zappy gets the ball out faster. He's a little bit more, a little bit more anti bag. You're a rappy guy, I'm not. I don't think Zappy does anything better than Man. Well, I'm not. I'm not

a play zappy guy. I'm just talking about, you know, in terms of getting the ball out quickly. I feel in the games that he's played, I've I've noticed that I thought Mac held onto the ball a lot in this game, and that's why where a lot of those sacks game from Yeah, I think that the plays that Mac runs are designed for just one real quick get it out throws. All right, we're gonna take a quick

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Join the conversation by calling the A Sticket hotline at eight five five Pats five hundred, or email this show at web radio at Patriots dot com and one of the most unprofessional pessboxes I've been in in the league. From our studios inside Gillette Stadium. Here, here's Christian Arcan. All right, it's Patriots postgame presented by Cyber Reason. Patriots knock off the Jets twenty two seventeen on the road to improve to four and four on the season, three

and two away from Gillette. Um weird, they've only played three games here. Meanwhile, the Jets dropped to five and three, just one and three at MetLife Stadium. You just heard the number. Let's get to some phone calls. What do you say at eight five to five, Pat's five hundred. Let's go diplomatically here, it looks like Mitch in Frisco, Frisco, Texas, that is, has been waiting the longest, So let's go to him, Mitch, how you doing, Hey, guys, Hey, Yeah,

I had had a question for you guys. You know, been watching the team now for for eight games, and kind of every week it seems like something new pops up that's an issue that has to be resolved, whether that's TV play turnovers, mistakes, coaching, play calling, in any of the above. But would be curious to know your guys thoughts on what is the biggest verity between us and even just the teams in the division? Do you guys think and I'll take it off the line, Well,

it depends what team you're talking about. I didn't really understand there. Yeah, like that to decide for that one. The biggest difference between the Patriots and say, the Dolphins, I guess is like offensive firepar explosiveness. With the Bills, it's everything, you know, like the better at everything. And with the Jets, I don't know. I mean I kind of feel like the Jets and the Patriots are not

too far off from each other. Yeah, I think the Jets and Patriots are very similar teams, except for the Jets are very young, right and I've had some really good drafts lately, which the Patriots were still sort of finding out. But I mean the Jets, I would say Miami is much more explosive. The Bills are much more balanced and explosive. Um yeah, and just I guess all

around better. And the Jets. I mean, the Jets have a lot of good young players, but a lot of them are hurt right now, and you know a lot of them didn't play in this game. Let's go to Moises, who was in Connecticut. Hey, Moises, is this all right? Moises? We're gonna pop you on hold and let's see who gets that line. That would be the Seaun in Virginia. Holod to Sean in Virginia. Hello, how's it going, guys? What's up? Nothing much? I don't want to speak on

one thing that could be very very constant. That's the offense struggling. I can't really see too much more happening to because you can't really train the personnel right now. I mean the grind weekend and week outfence offen to get anything going systematically, it's corectly to get things going. Um yeah, what's that? I'd say everything has to be schemed in order to get these players open. Yeah, you can't trying. These players are like age go out and

to make a play for me. Well, they're also having a hard time getting the ball to the guys too, let's not I think quarterback is part of the issues on offense. I mean, I'm I'm not going to sugarcoat it here. They've had issues offensively period. Are they scheming guys open too? I mean, we were talking about this, you guys were talking about it in the pregame. I believe one of the callers called it and said, you know, trick plays used to be kind of the more part

of this playbook. You would scheme guys open with some trick plays. You would you know, run some rubber outs or something. Doesn't seem like much of that is going on from what we can see, especially not in the trick play department. But at the same time, you can't really run trick plays if you can't run your normal plays. Yeah, and also when you know your offensive coordinator, who felt confident doing that sort of thing is in Las Vegas getting shut out today. By the way, Um, it's a

it's a little bit tougher. I think for guys like Patricia and uh and Joe Judge to start getting that creative you know, I mean, they do some creative stuff, but I don't know if they're I don't know if they're ready to start doing flee flickers and you know, wide receiver passes and double passes and all that stuff. I feel like that was that was Josh's wheelhouse more

than more than anybody else's. And now you've got two guys who you know, were learning on the on the job, and I think that's sort of maybe a little bit out of their out of their comfort zone if I had to, if I had to guess, M eight five five, Pats five hundred, that is your phone number. We'll hear from Mac Jones in just a few minutes. Mac Jones beaking after the game again. I'm interested in hearing how he uh he talks about this game and how it went, how thin he thinks it went for him. It's been

a weird season for him, I think all around. I feel like every time he comes to the podium, I never know what he's gonna say. I never know what Moody's gonna be in. I just don't know, Like it's it's a it's a mystery, you know, like you never really know, and this a tough game anything you know, like, how much do you look at Like toward the end of the Brady era, we had games like this that Brady looked like he just lost fifty four to nothing, right,

because he knew the offense didn't play very well. He knew he didn't play very well, and he knew what they were doing wasn't good enough. I don't know where Mac Jones is in his career if this was just maybe one of those games where he looked at and said, you know, it's a tough week for us, a tough week for me personally, and we got the win. We went on the road and we got the win, and

that's what we had to have. And maybe that's his mentality more so than Brady, who at the time, I'm thinking like twenty nineteen in Philadelphia, Yeah, you know, not a very good game that they won. I think they won seventeen to ten. A game kind of like this one where the other team just made more mistakes than you did and you ended up winning. I wonder how how Mac will we'll handle that? All right? We got a couple of emails to read, this one coming from

Daniel who says, guys, I'm not encouraged about anything. Zach Wilson and the refs handed us this win and just barely. The team is in no man's land, and I really don't know what the future holds. I agree with that last part, and really the whole thing. The future, like the future of this team, I think, is so up in the air. You really don't know. I mean, it's just it's it's very unknown, it's very vague. There's not a lot to hang your hat on total agreement. It

seems like there's been more bad than good overall. But there are four and four, you know, I mean, there are five hundred teams. If you get more plays, you know, more games like today the rest of the way, and you end up going like eight and nine. Yeah, Like I have no idea. Like if someone's asking me, what is this, the guy I don't know, Like I don't, like my gut would say no. But you know, I don't know. If two years is too quite, I don't know.

That's that's the danger to me, is that you end up like Midland yeah today, uh yeah, no question about it. And by the way, at four and four, that'd be enough for you know, battling for second place in the North in the South and in the West. So I mean you have you have a division now in the AFC East. Everybody thought it was gonna be the West this year with the Chiefs, the Chargers and Russell Wilson and the Broncos and Adams going to the Raiders. Everyone

thought that was going to be the division. You're in the division, and that's the worst possible time for the Patriots to be in the most competitive division in the AFC. Yeah, but the division's really irrelevant because you're not competing with Buffalo. You're competing with all the teams in the conference for wildcard spots. Yeah, so where you know what I'm saying, what division? I actually look at it as a blessing because you get an opportunity to beat the teams that

you have to get in front of. Like today, Yeah, like you had a chance to beat head to head the Jets, who were one of the teams ahead of you, Whereas like, uh, you know, Cincinnati, you'll have a chance later on in the year, Baltimore, you already missed that chance. You know, if maybe down the road it's the Chargers are one of the teams you're trying to chase, you won't get an opportunity to see if you could see them.

You know, I think this, I get it. I mean, I think this is something to be said both ways. Tough division, But if you were, if you were fighting for the division lead, I would say, yeah, it's tough. But I don't really think they're gonna be when all is said and done, I don't think they're going to be a factor in the division. Yeah. Stephan from Frankfurt, Germany says, Guys, I really hope make would respond after

getting pulled last week with an angry good performance. He may have been angry, but he certainly was not good. Where is the more than solid QB he was last season? That's a great question. I feel like, you know, we talk about like improvement from year to year. Is he gonna get better? Is he going to progress? Can he get back to what he was last year? Like, I feel like he's not even there now. You hope, So, yeah,

you sure hope. So otherwise, this team, the future is a lot worse if he doesn't get back to where he was last year. To kind of go back to the last question, because if you're staying, if you're taking a step back in year two, you're probably not making huge leap in year three, year four, and if you don't have the quarterback, it's gone to show in this league you're you're not very good. You're at best a middling team. I wasn't expecting Mac to start airing it

out down the field. I knew that, you know, there was they weren't going to let him just go out there and get picked off a bunch. But even though it was a relatively conservative game plan, he still had a hard time, you know, he still had a really hard time reading the defense, getting the ball where he wanted it to go, and avoiding those type of plays. And I'd be interested to hear, you know, all of the you know, the the all twenty two guys that

I make fun of all the time. But I'm not really trying to in this particular case, because I thought there were a lot of elements of the game today that were similar to what we've seen. I saw him under center, I saw him play action, I saw him doing some of the things that you know they've done

with with Zappy, and it looked just as bad. So I'm not you know, I'd be curious to see if there was you know, different things, different concepts that people feel like we're happening today as opposed to what Zappi has been dealing with. Is there a point this season where if Mac doesn't get any better, you think they should start planning for a new quarterback next year? Is that?

Is that on the table this year? I think if the record falls apart and you're in position to pick in the top ten, yep, Okay, there's some good quarterbacks in this you know. And I would say, and I would say with the one caveat is unless it's an injury, if he can't play for the balance of the last

nine games. Let's say he gets hurt two weeks from now when they end up losing you know, I don't know six of the last seven and Mac doesn't play in those games, so you have you have a top ten pick, but it wasn't Mac's fault, then maybe I, you know, I have to fall back on my evaluation. But if he plays the rest of the way and he's healthy and they lose all the games, I have to think because he's not playing great, Yeah, I think you have to think about it. Christian, Yeah, I certainly

think you have to as well. Do we have Mac ready to go. All right, without any further ado, let's hear from the man we've been talking about most of this postgame show, Mac Jones as an offense, as a team, Yeah, I think things first, just kind of opening statement here, just wanted to give a huge congratulations to coach Belichick, um on on his accomplishment. And I'm obviously he's done a great job here and it's just a blessing to

be able to play for him. And obviously we don't do the whole individual awards, but that's a big one, and um, it's just to be this quarterback right now. It's a huge blessing. So, um, I thought today was a good win. I think in the National Football League it's obviously hard to win, and um the defense played exceptional and we kind of knew we were just gonna wait and let them kind of take over the game. And special teams played great as well, and obviously we

did enough to put points up. But we want to do better and we will. But um, a lot of things are working on I'm sure when we see the film. But you gotta give credit to the Jets defense. That's a really good defense, top defense in the league. And we'll face, you know, really good defenses in the future, and that was you know, good preparation for that coming out with the second half of offense, was that it

was a messaging out, Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I think, you know, Coach Belichick and Mattie p and coach Judge did a good job just coming up with the plan of how we were going to attack, and we talked about it and they they've done a good job all year of adjusting at halftime. Um, I think that's something

that they've done a great job of. And UM that obviously benefits you in the second half, and we were able to go down there and move the ball, but obviously want to score more points and we know that, and um, we'll have plenty of stuff to work on. But super proud of you know, the guys on offense. We just sticking with it and trying to battle through

against you know, obviously a really good defense back. Did you have any extra motivation this week coming off any of the injury this in three weeks and then just playing those three serious last year. UM, I think, you know, I always try to be like internally motivated, and obviously there's things that you can control and for me, it was just my attitude and my effort and being a good teammate and showing up and trying to work and lead the guys. And that's my you know, good attribute

that I have is my communication. And I felt like we did extra things this week together as a team and really as an offense that showed up on the field. And if we continue to do that, um, we'll see you know, better results. So the processes there and I'm just super you know, happy to go to be a part of this, and obviously we want to continue to grow here. It's one game is not good enough, so we'll be ready for you know, next week. I think you mentioned it. What were some of the extra things

you guys are doing us the team? You guys rock favorite SISIs now You're good? Yeah, I think just sorry. I think just talking through some things and watching extra film together was obviously very beneficial and um, getting more reps you know, in our own time and talking through things and just whatever we had questions on we were just more all right, how do we do this? What do we need to do here? So obviously that's important. You want to be on the same page. And I

feel like we made strides there. But I got to

continue to do that. And um, like I said, just it starts in practice, and we had good week of practice and we got to carry it over even more into the game, but definitely good enough to you know, get to w just so we understand, like a small group or a couple of guys at Valley, I mean I think, you know, as always we have our meetings and um, you know, it takes everybody takes all eleven on the field, and there's a lot of young guys that are learning too, So we want to, like I said,

just come together and whether it's as a unit or as a skill group or quarterback group or wide receiver group, like everyone's trying to do more and that's what we're trying to you know, get to and um, it should be like that every week. So we're gonna continue to do that and just get better. Man about the quick game and the second half, it seemed like you guys went off at Temple a little bit more short approach

things like that style. Yeah, I think, um, it's really just applies to how the defense is playing and how we're trying to attack. And they had a really good you know, defensive line and we're just trying to neutralize that and move the ball quickly. And Matti p did a great job calling the plays all day. And I gotta get the ball out on some of those sacks and stuff. So it's not all one person or one thing. But I'll definitely watch it and see how we can improve.

And um, and you know obviously want to score more points and do all that. So a lot of progress, but gotta keep going. It's doing that's better. Yeah, I think, Um, you know, Damien and Andre have done a great job all year, you know, working together as a unit, and um, helping those young guys move along. And um, they're both really good. In the past game. I think More has done a good job there. We kind of included him in that this week, and um, Damien has just improved

there too. So you know, I love both of those guys are like my brothers. So UM, we just want to continue to grow together. And UM, you know they've done a great job. And even though you guys are playing your best, how good is it just get the victory environment. Yeah, it's great. I think that's why football is the greatest team sport. And you have a game plan and UM, I felt like we laid out the you know, targets that we wanted to hit, and we hit most of them. So, UM, you know, that's that's

part of it. And I'm just super happy that we won. But you know, we're always gonna try and look at the things that we can do better, and that's what we'll do. But you had a great job on defense and special teams and offensively just trying to just battle through it and find a way and that's what the national football he is. Mac. What did you what did you last six? What were you trying to do with

the ball? And also your reaction to the penalty. Um, yeah, I think that something I'll have to see on film. But I knew what I was trying to do with it and just a little miscommunication. But I can't have those and penalties saved us. But um, definitely want to eliminate those plays, and UM, gotta watch it and see what we can do better. Cool. Thanks, all right. That was Mac Jones up at the podium earlier this evening as the Patriots come away with a twenty two seventeen

win over the Jets. Mac Jones sporting the Agent Smith and the Matrix look with the with the black jacket. Is that a black tie or blue tie? I couldn't really tell. It looked like it looked like he had that whole thing going anyway, any takeaways from what he had to side? That last question is a good question. I wish that we would have gotten an answer on it because he said he said he knew what he wanted to do with it and it was a miscommunication.

What the miscommunication was you were going to throw out fifteen yards short and let the guy who run there. Yeah, I'd like to see like the other view to see where the route was, because I didn't ever there was no Patriot in the picture on TV. You know, I'm assuming he's throwing an out and it looked like Michael Carter under I think it was Michael Cotter undercut the

out route. But I didn't see a Patriots receiver, So I wonder if they were in zone and the receiver didn't react the way he was supposed to and the throw ends up looking like he's throwing it right to a jet but wasn't supposed to be like that. I don't know. All right, Well, I agree with you, it was a good question. We didn't get an answer too. I know that's too bad. We'll take a quick break

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Cyber Reason. The official defenders of the New England Patriots Pats with a twenty two seventeen ugly win on the road Division win knocking the Jets down a peg to five and three as the Pats improved to four and four, is still in the basement of the AFC East, but certainly a better record than a lot of other teams in the AFC, So a good win for them in terms of the schedule and the standings and everything else,

in terms of style points and everything like that. Probably one of their not so great wins this season, or really any season. Had to have it, that's the bottom lines, and they got it. But yeah, still a lot of work to do on both sides of the ball, but especially on offense. Yeah, um, anything to close out Matt Any closing thoughts. Yeah, just let you know, get into

the buy with a winning record. If you can do that, you feel a lot better about the really ugly start to the season and some of the ugly moments like last Monday and the win today. Getting to the bye with a winning record and that's all that matters. And you have a vulnerable team that you're playing next week with a young quarterback and Sam Ellinger who has looked horrific in the red zone looking as we've had here. Uh, you know, get getting to the bye with a winning

record and go from there. The schedule gets a lot tougher, but half that winning record at the buy. Did I see Jonathan Taylor got hurt or is he back? He's back in the game, But yes, I mean they've playing the Patriots next week, so yes, I would expect. And he hasn't been the same kind of yeah right, he hasn't been the same kind of explosive he's been. Yeah, he's been hurt on and off. He's dealing with an ankle injury. But the last I saw he was back

in the game. All right. Well the Patriots, Well, welcome in the Indianapolis Colts. On November sixth, they one o'clock game here at Gillette Stadium, and we'll have all the pre and post game for you like we always do here at Patriots dot com. Um, I'll be in again for Hardy here again next we'll be here again next week. Hopefully hell's going on. Yeah, a little bit in better shape than I was today. Thanks for bearing with me. Guys, certainly appreciate it most. Maybe we'll even see Deuce, who

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