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PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show

PassivePockets, Jim Pfeifer, and Left Field Investorswww.passivepockets.com
Welcome to PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show presented by Equity Trust– your go-to podcast for building and protecting wealth through smart, passive real estate investments. Hosted by Jim Pfeifer, this podcast is designed for investors who want to grow without the grind. Each episode features expert interviews with seasoned LPs (Limited Partners) and GPs (General Partners) who share their insights, experiences, and practical advice.
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Episodes

Capital Call Case Studies: Fund It or Walk Away?

Unplanned capital calls are one of the most stressful moments in passive investing, and Chris breaks down exactly how he thinks through the decision to fund or walk away. In this solo episode, Chris shares two real examples from his own portfolio. First: a “diversified fund-of-funds” that raised $10.6M and deployed across 11 deals. After multiple capital calls tied to the same sponsor (including hurricane-related shortfalls and interest reserves), the fund ultimately saw several investments wipe...

Jun 02, 202620 min

How Operators Win When Rent Growth Stalls: Gary Lipski's Playbook

This Episode Gary Lipsky joins the show for a real operator’s view of what it’s actually like to run B-class multifamily in Tucson right now; flat-to-negative rent growth, higher concessions, elevated delinquency, and the daily “whack-a-mole” of competing comps dropping rents to protect occupancy. Chris and Gary unpack how the Tucson market is absorbing new supply, what demand drivers still matter (job diversity, cost of living, defense/healthcare tailwinds), and where operational wins are being...

May 26, 202633 min

Is Multifamily Bottoming? 3 Signals to Watch + Tax Moves (Dwight Dunton)

This Episode Chris sits down with Dwight Dunton, Founder of Bonaventure (launched in 1999), to talk market cycles, risk resilience, and the real-world tax playbook that helps active landlords transition into passive investing without writing a giant check to the IRS on the way out. Dwight shares the origin story: how a family “mailbox money” apartment investment turned into Bonaventure, and how a 25-year-old with no formal real estate background convinced Fannie Mae to finance a $16M buyout and ...

May 19, 202639 min

Post-Summit Pulse Check: How Our Thesis Changed + What We’re Buying Next

This Episode The Pulse Check is back with the full crew. Chris Lopez, Jim Pfeifer, and Paul Shannon reconvene just days after the PassivePockets Summit to unpack what they learned, how their theses got challenged (sometimes in real time), and what they’re actually doing with their portfolios right now. They talk through why this conference hits differently: top-tier speakers in a small room where you can actually have real conversations and how those competing viewpoints are the whole point. Fro...

May 12, 202640 min

Debt Fund Due Diligence: The “People, Process, Protections” Framework (Whitney Elkins-Hutten)

Debt funds are having a moment but most LPs still don’t have a clean framework for where private credit fits inside a real estate portfolio, or how to diligence a fund beyond “it’s first lien” and a headline return. In this episode, Chris Lopez sits down with Whitney Elkins-Hutten to break down a simple (but powerful) portfolio exercise Whitney built for herself: categorize every asset by risk and liquidity, then work backward from a real cashflow target to build an “income sleeve” that can hold...

May 05, 202639 min

Operators vs Allocators: A Cash-Flow Blueprint for CRE with Daniel Trevino

Connect with Altruis Capital Partners: https://reports.alturascapitalpartners.com/quarterly-reports/2025-q4 https://alturascapital.com/ This Episode Alturas Capital Partners has built a vertically integrated platform across the Intermountain West—and in this episode, Chris Lopez sits down with Daniel Trevino (Director of Investor Relations) to unpack what that “operators first” philosophy looks like in practice. Daniel explains why Alturas focuses on markets they know firsthand (including Colora...

Apr 28, 202638 min

How to Get Better Deal Terms with SPVs | AAA Storage

PassivePockets members have asked for two things over and over: better terms and access to more deal options without writing huge checks . In this special webinar, Chris Lopez breaks down how “community capital” can do exactly that—by pooling investor commitments into an SPV (Special Purpose Vehicle) to unlock lower minimums, stronger economics, and cleaner access to sponsor funds. Chris is joined by Travis Smith (Founder & CEO of TribeVest) and Paul Bennett (President of AAA Storage). Travi...

Apr 21, 20261 hr 9 min

How Aspen Funds Is Winning Industrial | Deal Review

Link to Deal: https://passivepockets.com/directory/deals/aspen-industrial-growth-fund/ This Episode Aspen Funds’ Ben Fraser and Ellis Hammond return to PassivePockets for an exclusive LP Deal Review on their Industrial Growth Fund—an industrial land + development strategy concentrated in Kansas City’s “Golden Triangle” submarket. Chris, along with LP panelists Pascal Wagner and Christy Burakovsky, breaks down the thesis behind the fund: why Kansas City is positioned as a major industrial “supern...

Apr 14, 20261 hr 6 min

Michael Episcope’s Investing Playbook: Cycles, Credit, and Multifamily

This Episode Michael returns to the show after a standout LP Deal Review Q&A, and Chris digs into the full backstory: how Michael went from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange—trading interest rate derivatives bell-to-bell—to building Origin Investments into a multifamily-focused platform built around downside protection and long-term compounding. They unpack how Michael thinks about “edge” as markets became more efficient, why risk management lives at both the deal level and the company level, ...

Apr 07, 202638 min

Multifamily 2026 Pulse Check: Supply, Distress, and Where We’re Investing

Chris Lopez is back with Paul Shannon for this month’s PassivePockets Pulse Check, catching up on why Paul stepped back from co-hosting, what he’s focused on now, and what both of them are actually doing with their own portfolios. They get into the real-life tradeoffs that don’t show up in an OM: liquidity vs. deployment, concentration risk vs. investing where you have an edge, and why relationships with operators matter more than ever coming out of the last cycle. From there, Paul drops a data-...

Mar 31, 202655 min

Hotel-to-Multifamily Conversions 101 with Alex Cartwright

Hotel-to-multifamily conversions are one of the most interesting “free market” solutions to the affordable housing crunch, and Alex Cartwright is building his entire business around that niche. In this episode, Chris sits down with Alex to break down how (and when) these conversions actually pencil and why the opportunity exists in the gap between hotel cap rates and multifamily cap rates. They also talk about a real-time example: Alex has a conversion project happening about 15 minutes from the...

Mar 24, 202642 min

Boots-on-the-Ground Due Diligence with Adam Cranmer

Track Record Assets Deal Page: https://passivepockets.com/directory/deals/morgan-bay-apartments/ A few weeks after an LP Deal Review with Track Record Assets, PassivePockets member Adam Cranmer realized he’d be in Houston, just minutes from the actual property. So he did what most LPs wish they could do: boots-on-the-ground due diligence, in-person operator time, and a full “does this actually feel real?” check. Adam walks through the deal at a high level (268-unit Class C value-add in north Hou...

Mar 17, 202631 min

Scott Trench's 2026 Office Thesis with J Scott & Ash Patel

Scott Trench brings a contrarian 2026 office thesis to the table, starting with the idea first, then stress-testing it with three expert investors: Ash Patel, J Scott, and host Chris Lopez. The group debates where office is truly mispriced, what “trophy” means post-COVID, and why “downtown vs. suburbs” might be the wrong framing without understanding tenant demand, floor plates, and lease-up realities. They dig into the mechanics of making office work (cash-flowing vs. vacant assets, tenant impr...

Mar 10, 202657 min

LP Deal Review: Origin Investments Select Asset Fund | Michael Episcope

In this LP Deal Review, Chris Lopez and LP panelist Christy Burakovsky sit down with Michael Episcope, Co-CEO of Origin Investments, for a deep dive into Origin’s Select Asset Fund—an intentionally small, vintage-based multifamily development fund built to deploy in 2026. Michael walks through the macro thesis (supply peaking, concessions stabilizing, and starts slowing), the fund’s structure (targeting five shovel-ready ground-up deals, four-year duration, and an option to continue holding for ...

Mar 03, 202647 min

Market’s “Rolling Recession”: 18-Year Cycle 2026 Update | Logan Freeman

Logan Freeman is back for his 2026 update on the 18.6-year real estate cycle: breaking down where he believes we are right now (still in the “Winner’s Curse,” but with a messy, sector-by-sector twist) and what signals he’s watching to spot a true shift into contraction. We dig into the big contradictions investors are feeling: transaction volumes and pricing stabilization on one hand, and real pain in certain sectors (office distress, Sunbelt multifamily oversupply, looming debt maturities) on t...

Feb 24, 202637 min

The “Market Metronome” for Deal Stress Tests | Christine Kwasny

Today’s show is part of our Community Spotlight Series, where we feature PassivePockets members who share hard-won lessons to help other LPs invest smarter. Christine Kwasny joins Chris Lopez to walk through a detailed retrospective on her syndication portfolio, what she thought she was buying, what actually happened, and what she’ll do differently going forward. Christine started investing actively in 2008, building a Portland-area rental portfolio (single-family renovations that eventually gre...

Feb 17, 202638 min

Mastering Capital Protection and Cash Flow in a Volatile Macro Environment through Real Estate Private Lending

FOR MORE - Debt Fund Due Diligence Hub: www.passivepockets.com/debtdd Next Steps Join the discussion + access links/resources: www.passivepockets.com/debtdd Attend the community Zooms (or watch recordings later) Dates mentioned in the episode: Feb 18, Feb 25, Mar 3 (check the member dashboard for times/updates) Attend the 2026 Summit Conference: https://get.biggerpockets.com/passivepocketssummit2026/ This Episode We’re officially kicking off PassivePockets’ new Debt Fund Due Diligence Series bui...

Feb 10, 202646 min

Hotels for LPs: Cash Flow & Playbook feat. Jai Desai & Suraj Reddy

Attend the 2026 Summit Conference: https://get.biggerpockets.com/passivepocketssummit2026/ This Episode Hotels for passive investors: what actually matters and how it’s different from multifamily. Chris Lopez digs in with Jay Desai and Suraj Reddy on the underwriting stack (ADR, occupancy, RevPAR and RevPAR penetration), why brand fit and comp sets (STAR reports) drive the thesis, and how operations (daily pricing, sales/RFPs, third-party management aligned on expenses) move the needle. They wal...

Feb 03, 202645 min

State of PassivePockets 2026: Survey & Initiatives

Attend the 2026 Summit Conference: https://get.biggerpockets.com/passivepocketssummit2026/ It’s our “2026 State of PassivePockets.” Chris Lopez (now lead host, alongside co-hosts Jim Pfeifer and Paul Shannon) shares highlights from the 2025 member survey (96% accredited; 91% already LPs), explains why our Net Promoter Score jumped from -4 (2024) to 44 (2025), and unveils three big initiatives for 2026: (1) community-driven resources that go deep on due diligence—starting with debt funds; (2) usi...

Jan 27, 202627 min

Pulse Check 2025: Multifamily, Debt Funds & Liquidity

Chris Lopez, Jim Pfeifer, and Paul Shannon run a year-end Pulse Check on what worked in 2025, what did not, and where they are deploying capital in 2026. The hosts compare notes on gold and silver, why hard assets helped, and why many expected more multifamily distress than actually appeared. They dig into operator risk, liquidity as an edge, and the niches they like now, from B-class value add with day one cash flow to flex industrial and neighborhood retail. They also cover contrarian views on...

Jan 20, 202650 min

Leka Devatha’s Playbook: Creative Exits, ADUs & Value-Add Deals

Chris Lopez welcomes Seattle-based investor/author Leka Devatha to unpack how she built from flips to a diversified active/passive portfolio—plus what’s actually working in a high-cost, tenant-friendly market. Leka breaks down her first LP deal (why operator selection and interest-rate caps mattered), a 12-unit Seattle value-add that tripled gross rents, and the creative lending + multi-exit playbook behind her new book, Return on Real Estate . She shares a tactical framework for sourcing, under...

Jan 13, 202629 min

Scott Trench’s 2026 Playbook: Rates, Rents, and the Office Bet

This Episode Chris Lopez and Jim Pfeifer sit down with Scott Trench for a frank 2025 recap and a practical 2026 game plan. Scott reviews what he got right (rates staying sticky, supply-driven rent trends) and where the surprises showed up (gold strength, stock market resilience), then opens his playbook: selling a chunk of stocks, buying paid-off 2–4 unit Denver rentals, and allocating a small slice of retirement capital to private credit via a solo 401(k). Looking ahead, Scott focuses on multif...

Jan 06, 202640 min

Maximize 2025, Plan 2026: John Bowens on Solo 401k Deadlines and Roth Conversions

Chris Lopez is joined by Equity Trust’s John Bowens to close out 2025 and prep smart moves for 2026 using self-directed retirement accounts. John walks through contribution and conversion timelines for IRAs, Roth IRAs, HSAs, and Solo 401(k)s, explains the seven-day payroll rule for S- and C-corps, and shares practical strategies like spousal IRAs, backdoor Roths, staged Roth conversions over two tax years, and maximizing early-year compounding. The conversation also covers 2026 limit increases, ...

Dec 30, 202538 min

Residential Assisted Living: Cash Flow, Risks, and 2026 Opportunity

Chris Lopez welcomes Dr. Alex Schloe and Charlie Cameron to demystify residential assisted living. Alex lays out the macro drivers behind the silver tsunami and why small, boutique homes can deliver better care and stronger cash flow. Charlie breaks down the models from LP to lease-to-operator to full operations and development, including typical home specs, licensing basics, private pay vs Medicaid, and realistic risk controls. The trio covers returns, staffing, marketing, and the due diligence...

Dec 23, 202540 min

J Scott’s 2026 Playbook: Inflation, Rates, and Where Real Estate Wins

Jim Pfeifer and Chris Lopez sit down with investor and author J Scott to recap 2025 and map out what LPs should be watching in 2026. J shares where the year defied expectations (supply, rates, and “real” distress), how he’s positioning for a higher-for-longer rate regime, and the simple filters he’s using to decide between equity and credit today. The conversation covers underwriting discipline, liquidity planning, and why needs-based real estate and inefficient small-multifamily niches may offe...

Dec 16, 202541 min

Brian Burke’s 2026 Playbook: Small-Multi Deals & What’s Next for Rates

Chris Lopez and Paul Shannon welcome investor and author Brian Burke to look back at 2025 and set the table for 2026. Brian recaps his “end the dive in 25” thesis, explains why his pivot to senior housing has outperformed, and shares what actually surprised him this year. The group digs into supply, sentiment, and rates, plus the difference between perfect and imperfect markets and why small multifamily and true needs-based real estate may offer the best risk-adjusted plays right now. Key Takeaw...

Dec 09, 202533 min

2026 Game Plan, Debt vs. Equity, Rate Cuts Reality

Give Us Your Ideas For Next The PassivePockets Summit! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vwcvF1z03HYiKmR3a4JN8up0ja4kgKPzG2bCGS6640c/viewform?edit_requested=true This Episode It’s the November PassivePockets Pulse Check. Jim Pfeifer, Paul Shannon, and Chris Lopez share what’s new in their portfolios, the real impact of the Fed’s second rate cut, the tool you should use this month (sponsor reviews—now updatable), and how they’re setting concrete goals for 2026. Plus: a big announcement: PassivePoc...

Dec 02, 202550 minEp. 249

LP Lessons From Losses: Julie Holly on Transparency & Recalibration

Chris Lopez and Paul Shannon sit down with investor and educator Julie Holly for a candid conversation about wins, losses, and leadership as an LP and GP. Julie traces her path from house hacking to syndications, shares the “receive & release” mindset she uses to process setbacks, and explains what changed in her underwriting and operator vetting after a tough year, including one deal where mismanagement led to a total loss . They cover how LPs should share accountability, the exact question...

Nov 25, 202536 min

Multifamily 2026: Bid-Ask Reality, Distress Signals, and Where Deals Pencil

In this exclusive webinar release, Paul Shannon moderates a market check with brokers Beau Beery, Reid Bennett, and Jakob Andersen. The panel covers where multifamily deals are actually clearing in late 2025, why the bid ask gap is narrowing, and how underwriting has shifted from headline cap rates to year one cash on cash, DCR, and debt yield. They compare Sunbelt supply waves to steadier Midwest fundamentals, walk through valuation reality checks sellers must face, and explain why most 2026 ac...

Nov 18, 20251 hr 1 min

Dave Meyer: The 20-Hour Rule & Systems for Busy Real Estate Investors

Dave Meyer joins Chris Lopez and Jim Pfeifer to unpack the shift from hands-on house hacking in Denver to diversified passive investing. Dave walks through selling select rentals, using a Delaware Statutory Trust for a 1031, and why he caps real estate time at 20 hours a month. He explains dollar cost averaging into syndications for liquidity management, why he still concentrates on multifamily he understands, and how he hedges with fixed-rate debt, cash, and some gold. The crew digs into operat...

Nov 11, 202538 min
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