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Weekly Roundup: Dog Boarding, DWTS Monster Night, “Gilded Age” S2 E2, “Jamestown,” and To-Do Lists

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Episode description

On our latest weekly roundup, we discuss the challenges of dog boarding and the implications for family travel as the winter holidays approach.

What we're watching: As always, Dancing with the Stars went all in for Halloween with "Monster Night," with the costuming, hair, and makeup departments working even more overtime than usual (but we still think the scariest dance was when Frankie Muniz played a stalker with very little assistance from hair and makeup).

On The Gilded Age, season 2, episode 2, "Some Sort of Trick," featured a great deal of romantical intrigue, with current, past, and possibly future pursuers and partners turning up left and right. Mentioned: The official Gilded Age podcast from HBO.

Catherine's library find this week was more TV: A series called Jamestown about the early English settlers in Jamestown, Virginia, from (some of) the creators of Downton Abbey.

In the archives, we revisit episodes in which we discussed family to-do lists (November 9, 2022), holiday happenings and headaches (November 10, 2021), and the importance of having a vent buddy (November 7, 2019).

Next week, our TV watch will cover Music Video Night on Dancing with the Stars and "Head to Head" (S2 E3) on The Gilded Age. Until then (and anytime you're in need), the archives are available! ​

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Hello, and welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast for the week of November sixth. I'm Katherine Hoileco and I'm here with Terry Morrow. Hello, for a weekly episode to talk about parenting in a roundabout way, along with some pop culture and other chit chat. So you were telling me that you're trying to make plans for your dog. Could I do with my dog? Katherine,

We have this very sweet little rescue dog that I've talked about. We got her at the end of June, beginning of July, and at the time we had a vacation scheduled, but we thought, oh, there'll be plenty of time before that, she'll be all used to us, everything will be good, and then we can board her and it will be fine. She won't mind. But I worry about this dog because we really know absolutely nothing

about her before she was found in a park. There's been some things that have made me think that maybe she was mistreated, probably by men, and she still shies away from things. She was getting really peppy and friendly to us, and then she had some stomach problems and she like regressed back into being shy, and now she's just starting to be really friendly and Peppy again, And I feel like, if I take this dog to a boarding place,

she's going to think, well, that family's abandoned me. Now that you know what is next for me, She's going to have all sorts of PTSD and trauma on top of the trauma whoever knows what it was. And I hate to do that to her. On the other hand, I don't really know that we can bring her with us. We're going to a resort that I have never seen a dog at in all the years we've gone there.

Their website now says dogs under sixty pounds are welcome, but you can't leave them alone in the room, and you can't bring them here, and you can't bring them there. So I'm like, okay, so if you bring the I have to just sit in the room the entire vacation, which I don't really object to, except I would like to go to mass yes, you know, and maybe dinner once in a while. But I keep calling to see this resort has a hotel and it has time shares. Where

in the timeshares does the dog policy extend to the time shares? I asked on the website. No answer, I asked on the Facebook page where I have gotten answers before no answer. I finally said, hey, I guess no answer means no, and they said, oh, just look at our dog policy on the website, and I said, yes, that is what

I'm asking about. I sent an email to the timeshare manager. No answer, So I got to think that either they don't and so they don't want to be bothered, or they do, but they don't want people to actually bring their dogs, so they're like, not going to Can you get their confirmer denial right? And it's like, well, in that case, I don't want to. So it's like none of the possibilities is good, nor is us just not going away? So what do you do with your dogs?

Us to take our dogs to the vet and board them there, but our vet no longer does that, so we have to find another place. We've talked to, like a doggy resort place that's super fancy and kind of expensive. But you know, they have an application that's five pages long, please document all your dog's experiences in life, and it's like, oh, my, asked about one that's close to us and cheaper and filled out their application which also wanted to know how does your dog do with other dogs?

What is your dog afraid of? How does your dog respond to all different kinds of people? And it's like, I don't know, pretty sure she's got some some trauma, but I'm sure it'll be fine. And I never heard back from them, so it's like, what do we do? Right? Well, we do take ours to you know, like a kennel where it's like doggy daycare slash. They do have overnight boarding and you know, they've they've gone, except of course like during the pandemic, they've they've gone

fairly regularly. I mean when I say regularly, like a couple times a year, you know, not I mean some some dogs go to daycare all the time. But we don't need that. We're here. But I mean, and I'm going to talk about this later this Thanksgiving, we are taking them with us to an airbnb, and I am very We did actually take a dog wants to uh it was like a little condo type in and we just had to keep her in a crate if we weren't there, which she

was cool about that dog, and it was really kind of nice. It was kind of fun to have her there. But I don't know about old dogs if that would be the case if she had been barking the entire time. I'm not sure they would have been too happy with her, right, Yeah, I know. I just I'm nervous about driving with them, which I don't actually have to do. It's two separate that it's two different cars, so I don't have to care about that. Yeah, but but yeah,

I mean it is. If there's a way to take her to one of these boarding places in advance and do like a trial run. Yeah, we've done that before. Last time I took a dog to a place like that for a trial run, the dog got sick and never really got well. Oh no, but the guy think she caught something or she drank too much water or something, so I don't know. And yeah, and if we take her with us, it's like a three hour drive, and this

dog does not like being in the car. But on the other hand, if we take her for a short ride to a place where we're boarding her, then she's never going to get in a car. Yet I know what this means. We're walking home. Don't like it. It's so hard, you know, not every place can welcome dogs. And you know, sometimes

it's nice to take a vacation from the responsibility. But at the same time, it just breaks my heart to think of, you know, we'll be back, you know that, right, She doesn't know that it's impossible. So anyway, that's my particular anu right plus which I was in the middle of trying to figure it out when I broke my wrist and then I didn't do anything for like three weeks. And now it's even closer to the time

we're going and our choices are going to be slim. They're very happy to have our dog, but it's like, these are the things that are complicated I know exactly. I mean, my brother in law's two dogs and they cannot be boarded just because of their behavior, and that caused his wife to not be able to come to our house for Thanksgiving last year. They take them with when they drive, they take them with them. So you know what that sounds like to me is you would upset the dogs. Yeah,

I'll stay home with her. It's okay. Everybody was fine with it. That is something I would do. Yeah, maybe I'm thinking about that now. That's that's an interesting Oh well, this is a difficult problem, but not as difficult as dancing with an inch of crud on your yes, glued on bone mask or those weird contact lenses so many of them go, oh my gosh, contact lenses aren't something you can just you're not experienced with it, right pop in? Can you? I had the worst experience with contact

lenses as a youth. And also, if you need them to see, how can you description prescription like those novelty freaky ones or are they just like going without that doesn't see a good Talking about Dancing with the Stars Monster night, we're not just getting the boarding place we went they had weird contact lens. No, oh my gosh, it was monsters, and they don't do monsters every Halloween. And I was thinking as I was watching all these people

in these very elaborate costumes. I mean, kudos to the costume people and to the hair and the makeup people, excellent work. But the scariest and best dance I've ever seen for Halloween on Dancing with the Stars is the one with Whitney and Frankie where he was like a star. Oh, no makeup, no costumes. It was scary at head. Yes, so are so really, Maybe people do not need to spend five hours in the makeup room to do your Halloween dances. Right, maybe a little more modest next year,

because that one worked great. Yes, that was extremely scary and creepy. Go back and watch it, willingk to it. Yeah, that's excellent. So there were all sorts of mummies and vampires and aliens and whatever the heck it was. Arianna and Pasha were Yeah, that I didn't really understand, Like she had her hair turned into like rams horns or something. So I felt so bad for Charity because that costume was not particularly flattering and it

didn't show off dance moves, huh. And the face she couldn't really emote with that face, right, it was like glued onto her and so she just looked kind of meh. And then then she went on to have to have that all on for the dance a Thon too, which I think so I think that they, although overall the costumes and makeup were amazing, I think they kind of did her. She must have offended somebody in the in

their makeup room. And also here did you notice that she had They had backup dancer's charity and artem They had like five p people in the back back up skeletons skeleton suits, but like not doing anything. They were just kind of shuffling around a little. But I was like, what is the point of this? I guess it was like they were at the monster Mash and those were the other dancers, I guess, but they didn't give them anything to do. That was weird. It was There was many weird things on

the ship on the episode. Yeah, and I mean Harry and Riley. I guess they were supposed to be some sort of alien thing. But that's a lot of makeup. Yeah, it's an awful lot of makeup that looked uncomfortable, that looked like, I mean, as bad as Jason's makeup was, it was at least just his face and he boy did he run with it, like standing behind people all through the rest of the episode. Right,

He's going to be a meme. But just the whole body makeup in those colors, with that, oh yeah, you couldn't recognize either one of them. Maybe that was a strategy to be like, don't forget who I've been for the last six weeks or whatever, like I'm a name. Would they do anything to completely change his body? Yeah, I don't think so. I saw a lot of really really harsh things about Harry and Riley after last week online. So I get what's what he's talking about, but you

can't. Number one, don't don't read the comments. I was yelling at the screen. Don't read the com We have a hopeful graphic for that I should, I should send to them, you know. But and also he's been on a reality show, so he knows that people are mean online. Surely some forum I was on said he was not a good guy on that reality show either, So that's all fake. No, he's like a delicate flower. But I will will see if the sympathy wins him votes. But

don't whine. Yeah, don't whine, and don't read the comments. This is this is one oh one. We all know it. You know you're not the only one getting bad scores. Just well, I guess you're getting the worst ones. But still yeah, just just uh roll with it. The fact that you're still there means people are voting for you, right, so be grateful, like I think they said at some point, but I

don't know he survived to whine another week. He did. Mauricio was the one who went home, and somebody I saw speculated that as you mentioned, last week, his wife had expressed some concern about him and Emma, and there was a thought that this cost him the votes of his wife's fans, which is probably what was keeping him there. Interesting. Live by your wife's fans, die by your wife fans? Man, Yeah, interesting, I

mean that that is the case, but it sounds right. I just got that from like a headlining People magazine, So yeah, yeah, oh boy, he was a good sport. He was a good sport and Barry must have some kind of voting block. I don't know, ladies out there voting for Barry. I really didn't think he would the Brady Love is Stride. I mean, it's been a while since that show was on and he really hasn't done much else. The people who remember it are thrilled he's there.

Yeah. I don't know that they vote as much as teeny boppers, but they vote. I'm constantly surprised. But I haven't watched it live in a number of weeks. But I got to get back to voting. But it's like, I'm kind of kind of like everybody who's still there, I would not know who to vote or not. Fo Yeah, but well it's charity just for because she's a bachelorette. She's a bachelorette. Yes, but you

can't. What a good thing to do on this show if they ever wanted to mix it up, is allow you to vote for and or against. Yeah, but if it's it's just like, well, I'm not going to vote for that person. Well they're getting a bunch of votes. It's really not gonna hurt them that much. Right, he is voting for somebody else. I don't know, but I got to get back into it. Yeah, I want to vote for many of them. So it's hard so that it's like there's no point in doing it at all if you're only wait,

that's the way. That's why I've sort of been. I can watch the next day, right. I liked when they were doing the dances at the end. Allison's strategy was just to keep from being noticed for long enough to write, and I enjoyed that. That would be my strategy as well. Just stand over here in the corner, y'all go ahead. That was my you know, middle school softball in gym class strategy. Oh yes, stay in the outfield, never ever go up to bat. Yes, when I

was in I was in elementary school, we play soccer. I would always be defending the end of the field that nobody was in. Right, I'll just stay over here in the opposite direction, just in case the ball comes. I'm ready. We don't let the ball come. I won't know what to do with it. But she's hanging into good for her. I don't know. It's interesting to think, who will I wonder. I really wonder if Leley is getting just such a huge number of social media votes that they

can keep voting her down. And also they costumed her as so chy this week. It's like, well, getting confused because there's two girls with black hair and bangs. Yeah, I guess. At first I thought she was like Wednesday Adams, and then she was supposed to be some kind of a spider was my ultimate thought. But I guess so yeah, I know, it just looked so weird. Oh well, you know, she still is continuing to get underrated, I think. But the end of the dancing was

spectacular. I didn't think they all looked a little tentative and awkward, possibly because of the excellent work of the hair. And they haven't costume people who cares if they can dance in that? Right? Don that look cool well dance dancing at the stars. Right, so it's only another week's right. So on the Gilded Age they did not have to wear lots of horrifying makeup and ikey costumes, but they still do dress up quite a lot. They

certainly do. Probably easier to move in mummy garb than in some of those dresses. Yes, and they require other people to dress them, which becomes a plot, an important plot point in multiple story. Yes, just the one butler saying, but they can't entertain if if their relative is dressing mister Russell Russell, they can't entertain, Oh deue shame. And then at the very end there's a there's a mic drop of a character from the past returning.

Oh man, who I would have been overjoyed never to see against Missus Russell's lady's maid who had hopes of being the next Missus Russell, that's right, which were unsuccessful. But now she's married to some elderly gentleman, some elderly rich guy yep, and is looks to be eager to lord it over the former employers. That's right, it's going to have a good time. She's not going to uh make up or apologize or just pretend it never happened,

noop, noop. So well she knows that she has Bertha over a barrel, because yes, she can't be going around saying, oh this was my maid. Yes, yes, quite a lot of romantical intrigue in this in this one, right, and poor Marion with the extremely unsuitable bow. Yeah, he was awful. They really wanted to make clear that he was awful, and it was please cartoonish, please do not miss. He made Oscar look like a sparkling catch. Yes, tea shirt. An Oscar now

has someone in mind. Once agains right, and it's a good thing because last last week I posited that Bertha would squish Oscar like a bug. But no, it was George. Yeah, boy did he sure after telling Gladys he would let him down. He's out of the window onto the street. Yeah, that was delightful. I enjoyed. And uh, he wants Gladys to fall in love. That's right. She had to admit that even though

Oscar makes her laugh and promised her a good life. Ah well, there is that little matter of yeah no, and what did what's did George say? Like he probably Gladys said he promised me freedom or something like that, and he's like, yeah, marriage is not your best move there, if

that's what you're looking for. That was delightful, just the yeah, yeah, how how this scene between him and Gladys where he gets her to go to Newport and then this seemed between him and Oscar in which he lets him down not easily at all was uh, you know, kudos to Morgan Spector. Those were wonderful scenes. Yes, but Larry has his book, got a job and there from his new employer, Laura Benanti, who was not at all subtle in her intentions. And of course you know how Bertha responded

to that, not well he's old. It has to be your mother, And George responded to it, well, oh young man, you know, wrong answer, right? Oh my, So Marion was rescued by cousin Dashel immediately there, amazing every time she needed rescue from mister Morgan. Yes, it's her unsuitable dude suitable, Yes, he is very conveniently around. Mister Montgomery. Yes, so be nice to see what happens there, and Oscar has another bounces back remarkably well, right, has another prospect who's just happened

to be in Paris for the last yes, number of years. We don't know her well enough to feel sorry for her, So that's fine, you go, you go, Oscar, just leave Gladys alone, that's right. Yeah, But the only person who didn't come out with another potential person was Gladys, right, did we Did she meet anybody else this time? I

don't think she did. But she was sympathizing with Marian, which was cute, yes, and Peggy's back yes and armstrong, wow, girl, like come on, not taking the hint, not from all, and it was certainly not an hint at all. It was as it could be, be nice or you are out on your ass. Right. She was not nice. She was not nice, deliberately and aggressively not nice. Yeah, after like crying about how she could never get another job, yes, like and

as Agnes rightfully pointed out, it's up to you. If you behave you will not have a problem. Right. So a difficult position for Peggy to be in though, because you don't want to get somebody fire. But at the same time, come on, and Peggy's trying. Everybody is against her. It's like, what are you doing? She's being nice? Stop it? Right? I do I do enjoy the cook at that house. Yes, she's she's just well, she has to eat, you know, Like how she kept the secret of Marian having a job. Well, all I

did was make her a lunch. She has to eat, Come on, she's job. Yes, ah. And we're supposed to believe that Marian's an amazing teacher because Francis, her cousin whatever, got frustrated and was about to rip up her painting, and Marian was like, just try again, and then Francis was like, okay, well that was easy. Yeah, she's an amazing teacher. Absolutely, look at that. And then then she rode home with the cusin Dashel and they were going to have their visit with the

ants. But we didn't get to see it. I saw that, we saw other social engagements. We skipped right to right to the pastor right. Ada is so smitten with and does and that Agnes is very annoying, Like I couldn't get a word in edge once. It's kind of Agnes's default setting. Honestly, right, it really is, and good because she's amusing. Yes, it is quite amusing. There's still some bad blood between the two,

but Crosstreet butlers, Yes, forgiving but not forgetting right. And that reminds me because the one butler was taking the dog for a walk when they had their little conversation, and during the scene where the rector was visiting, he was really aggressively petting that dog. Did you notice that? He was like, just I noticed the dog. I did not notice the pending. Oh my gosh. It was like he I don't know what he was. The dog will be filing chargers. Yes, it was almost like, what

are you doing, sir? I don't understand it was it was just to me, it was extremely noticeable, like leave that poor animal alone, please, or maybe the dog doesn't get enough affection from the rest of the household, and well, and that he appreciated getting it from the director. I guess, yeah, a manly sort of pet these women. Yes, exactly. So Jack is fixing a clock and much is made of this. Right, Is he going to turn out to be like some inventor we've heard of.

I don't know if it's going to be one we've heard of, or it's just going to be that it's going to be his his ticket to a life beyond service and perhaps his ticket to picking up a cute German lady's maid from across the street because he seems to have lost interest in the one that lives in his house. Does she beat him at cards? So no more for her? Yeah? But yeah they made they made so much of the stupid alarm close like this has to be leading to something, yes, definitely.

So now we're two locations on this show. We've got Newport going on, we got New York going on. We no longer have Brooklyn going on. That's right. I'm sure she'll make her way back to Brooklyn now, and then we don't want to leave Odra McDonald forever. No, she wasn't even in this episode. She was not. I hope she'll be sit back, just a reminder of why we're sad, right, and then she comes to the place where, uh, everything is so much better. Even a

grouchy old lady can't get you down. Come on, Armstrong, what are you doing? Get a grip because you will be losing your job very soon, dome as with bags and you're too old to have a turn, as you know, coming back to haunt her by marrying some old rich guy. Right, that's not going to happen for you. She's about the same age as the guy that the Lady's Maiden married. But still yes, as with maids, those guys don't want somebody, there is somebody beyond the very youthful

right stage right. So next week we will be talking about Dancing with the Stars music Video Night, that's what they said. Paula Abdul will be there, of course she will, judging at least she's a dancer, that's true, she is. I feel like they've had music video Night before. Do they re enact music video dances? I don't know, it may have been

before my time. And there also are going to be team dances. So that's how they're gonna gonna get rid of somebody, right because they're they're at the point where they have to start doing extra things like the dance marathon that they did this fast time. This time it's the team. So we will talk about that and the Gilded Age episode head to head. Did we find the significance of some kind of trick in this episode? Hmmm, good question,

sergnificance of you don't even like opera? That was actually a line? That was a line? Yeah? But episode two, what was the some kind of tricks? I mean, it was some kind of trick at the very end, right, the ladies made it's a late use of your title. Right, hmmm, well perhaps it will look maybe they'll tell us in the official podcast. There you go. Have you been listening to that?

I mean, there's only been one so far. Possibly we should. Yeah, I did listen to the first one, and I listened to them last season. You know, they're they're entertaining, but they're they're coming from inside the house. You know, they're they're not independent. So it has its pluses and minuses. Let's say, so, Catherine, what do you have

for Catherine's Library find of the Week. Well, I'm going to go a little bit off chorus here and mentioned something that is a TV show that I actually watched based on seeing it in seeing the DVD come through the library. It's this show called Jamestown and as in like you know, pre colonial or whatever, like early seventeenth century. Yeah, and so the DVD came by and it says right on the top of it from the makers of Downton Abbey, and I was like, oh, okay, sold. So yeah,

it's a series. It ran from twenty seven teen to twenty nineteen about you know, the first settlers that came to Jamestown from England, so it's you know, you get in the first episode, you get them on the boat and it's a boatload of women coming being brought over to marry all the men who have been there for a while, all by their lonesomes. So of course there's a lot of bad behavior that that happens. And I think it

might be like a British thing. I don't even know, and I don't recognize any of the people who are in it, but you know, it's it's just fun in the way the Downtown Abbey and Outlander and shows like that are. So I am enjoying it and I would have never heard of it if I didn't see the DVD come by. Wow, that's looking for some to watch on TV. Go down to your library and look at the dv Just browse the DVDs. I mean we have them. We have so many.

And it cracks me up when I see ten seasons of like Chicago med or something come through. I'm like, did you watch all of this? Like each box has like six DVDs in it, and that's a lot of dv Yep. It is. People are still out there watching DVDs they are. I still I couldn't get rid of my DVDs. When I was getting rid of stuff, I got rid of my daughter's ones that had been sitting here since COVID because I never got them over to the library to donate.

Right, but my own I just want, as we discussed, I just want to look at them. I just want to know I still own them, even though I will probably never watch them, right, but I could give them to the library as well. Eventually, maybe Yeah, and then somebody will say, yeah, seasons of these stupid shows, just this stuff. I mean, just yesterday I got somebody returned leave it to Beaver and Andy Griffith show, So they're really throwing it back sometimes. Yeah. Yeah.

I keep telling my husband he could watch those and stream them and stuff on various channels. He's like, I'm gonna just watch them on the regular TV they have them on. I said, but you don't, but you could like watch the very first one and just I'll watch them on the regular. He's skeptical of streaming. Yes, he doesn't watch them much. And he also a lot of his baseball is now on streamers, and he's always has trouble finding the game, and so I think he's now had it with

that. That's it. I don't want to be on these jumps, right dark crumbing yah. More for the rest of us, more streaming. Yeah, I just quit a Hulu and Disney in a fit of annoyance that they somehow could not find a way to charge the credit card they've been charging forever and everybody else can charge just fine. So I said, fine, you don't want my business go away? Yeah, I cancel it. And then my daughter comes to me and says, could I just go ahead and pay

for it myself? Can I just go do it? And I said, yeah, go ahead, but I'm making her watch the commercials for a few months to make sure she really wants it commercial Hulu because it's like so much cheaper. Anyway. In the archives this week, we are going to talk about things we discussed one year ago, two years ago, and three years ago. This week, it's kind of a recent one. We were keeping it recent this week. Yes, I had nothing to do with the fact

that I filled out the things at the last minute. You had to pick ones before I was done. It's fine. So, oh my gosh, this first one in uh or a year ago. This week, we discussed family to do lists and how one person in a family, say, I don't know me, might have a certain urgency about the to do list, and the other people in the family might just see it as that thing mom Key's right, and it's still that way and it will always be that way,

and it drives me crazy. I ask people to do things and they say yes, and then they don't do them, and then they seem surprised when I mention it, like Okay, so you're going to do that thing now what? Oh no, not today, but you said you were going to do it. I'll do it some other times today, but no,

right. They are using my strategy of just agree yes, because whenever my husband asked me to do something, I usually just say yes, and then I may or may not actually do it because I don't like the way he is. Like someone needs to like, yeah, who what? Someone you know, like, just just spit it out, you know. Yes. So we have this whole thing downstairs, as I've discussed many times before,

the downstairs apartment that my daughter is now slowly moving into. She's sleeping down there, which I would think would be the last thing she would want to do. But it's the first And there's a lot of my husband's mother's stuff still there, right, including a china cabinet full of stuff, but also kitchen cabinets full of stuff, a medicine cabinet full of stuff. I feel like it's my husband's job to remove and go through those things. If any

of them are something my daughter could use. The two of them could look at everything, right, and then you know, box up the stuff we don't want and I'll have somebody come and take it away. That doesn't feel like that should be my job. That feels like it should be the job

of the son of the previous owner. And I make that case and he goes, oh yeah, OK. And then every week when he has a week off, I say, so today you're gonna go down with our daughter and do this that right, and so yeah yeah, And then he sits on the couch and watches Keep Me three Hours and it's like, you're going to do that thing right? Oh yeah yeah. These people do not understand the concept of a to do list, Catherine, I know, and the

issue is to check things off or else why write them down? The issue I have is that they they the children don't live here right now, so I don't know if they're doing things. You know, I can say, oh, make sure you you know, oh, send a message to your grandmother, or take your medicine or you know, check in with your advisor or whatever, and maybe they'll do it. Maybe they won't, but I won't know. Yeah, that's that's crazy making. So that's hard. That

don't bother me. Yeah. Time. Also bothering is holiday stuff with family. Right last year, my brother in law and sister in law and their adult kids came, not for Thanksgiving, but for a couple of weeks before when our town has a race through town through like a five k or something. Yeah. Yeah, and they've done it for years and years. My son usually walks it with this social group that he goes to, and my niece is a runner, so she decided she wanted to come and run it.

So it worked out really well. They came, we had like a Thanksgiving dinner the night before, and then the next day they did the race and then they left. So that was good. So you know, my sister in law calls, you want to do again this year? Yes, let's do it again this year, but there are some complications this year Number one, they now have a dog which they want to bring with them to stay in our house. The place where they previously stayed in our house,

the downstairs apartment now kind of occupy. Do we have another guest room? Really not because my daughter is half and half at this point, so where are we gonna put them? And also Boston Market, our purveyor of Thanksgiving items so that I don't have to cook, has gone belly up at least in New Jersey. What are we going to use? So it's like, uh, sure, come, but maybe sleep someplace else with your dog. So I don't know. I don't know if my dog likes other dogs.

I don't know if my dog would be threatened by another dog suddenly in the house. And see our earlier discussion. So it's just it just suddenly got really really complicated. Yeah, so yay, yay, family together. Is nice to see you all. I'm gonna zume meeting right. Do you have

any holiday plans? Well, I'd mentioned before that we ended up because this, you know, two years ago when we talked about this, it was a lot about like how when your kids are little, you just tell them what we're doing and do it, you know, and when as they get older, it gets more complicated. They have different commitments and lives and everything

else. And that happened to us this year. You know, my family, we usually celebrate with my side of the family, and they are in California this year, and you know, that was going to be really hard for us to try to fit in between the two kids on different school schedules

and then my work schedule and it. You know, so we were like, no, we're And also last year, when my brother in law and niece came for Christmas, we talked about how we were going to do Thanksgiving together this year, and you know, they set a goal to get their dogs organized so that they could leave them somewhere, and you know, but then they haven't really done that. And then my niece went out of the country and so she's doing an internship away from home, so she's not going

to be around. And then I was going to have to work Friday, Saturday, Sunday like all this stuff. And my husband's like, well, you know, he really wanted to go somewhere and do something. And where we finally landed was we are going to the town where my daughter lives, the city where my daughter goes to school, and we are getting an airbnb and staying there and doing Thanksgiving there on Tuesday. And as I said before,

we are bringing the dogs. And so for the kids, I mean my son, he's whatever because he's going to be coming home and possibly seeing some of his high school friends like the weekends before and after, because he is the whole week off. But my daughter doesn't, and she has skating and bloody blah blah. So we're bringing it to her and we'll see, you know, because it's gonna involve transporting a whole lot of stuff I think

from yeah, and from home stuff live and inert. Yes, exactly, frozen turkey because he already has do not put the frozen turkey in the same car as I would separate those two, yes, exactly. And we want to bring their creak because you know, we want to have that and the airbnb and right ah, and it's big, you know, it's it's not a travel crate. It's a crate you keep in the kitchen all the time. And they both fit in it. So anyway, yeah, nothing's ever

easy, So then we need someone to vent about it. That was some good venting, that's right. This Illustrates in let's see four years ago in twenty nineteen. Oh yeah, talked about who's your vent buddy? And I think, all things considered, my vent buddy is all of you listeners. Yep. I just come on here and I vent about something and leave it

there and then I feel better. Yeah, and then I edit it and I listened to it again and I say, yeah, that's and then I listened to it again on my podcast player and I go, you know what, maybe I should calm down. It's a whole. It's a cycle, it's a it's a lets the steam right out. That's right. It's a

sequence that you have to go through. And when you get through it, you know, all our listeners reel and a madeary human and bought thank you, that's right, thank you for giving me the illusion of having shared my problems with people. You'll, aren't you, Gavin? I am real, by I am really. I think you are not a robot, that's right. Not a girl, always say with a bicycle in it, Yeah that's right. Janet would say, I'm not a girl. I'm not a robot.

I'm not a girl. Yeah. I mean, I think it is important to have a event buddy, I'm not entirely sure mine is if it's If it's not you and the listeners, then I'm not sure. So well, it's nice because there are very few real world repercussions when you vent to the listeners because nobody I know listens, right, And if you do, please don't tell me because that'll be embarrassed. I'll never talk about anything. But I mean I had to also do have a friend that I vent to,

and I was trying to think who my kids vent buddies are. And we pay for my daughter to have event buddy, We pay to go event, so that works out, okay. And then I think my son has imaginary event buddies because I hear him. He'll come home and then I'll go in his room and we'll be talking up a storm and I press my ear against the door sometime to try to figure it out, because it's like, are you talking over something that happened with your imaginary friend? But you know,

whatever works for you, important thing is to get it out. That's right, you're talking about your mom. Don't do it too lot because I don't want to know, right, I don't need to hear that. Yeah, everything else I want to hear but right, well, yeah, during the era of zoom therapy, I had to keep saying, you have to close the door, you have your zoom therapy because if I can hear it, I'm going to come in and tell my son that. Yeah exactly,

I think she used to go send her car. Yeah, I mean that's but you know, you can't not listen if somebody is talking loudly no, and you kind of want to listen, and then there's a problem. Right, I didn't say that, right, Let me go tell her aye yah yai. Yes, Well, I guess we' vented enough for one day. Huh. Yes, I think we have, So we'll say that's it for

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