Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm going over the same parenting
topics over and over. So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere, we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it, if only what not to do. Watch and listen along, and let's all make like we're doing something important for our families. Each Wednesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of an older entertainment property. And for this week of July fifteenth, we
are continuing with the pilot of Lost. We'll be talking about part two, the part where they go on a walk to the highest place in the island and they encounter a polar bear, and then they find out that somebody's been broadcasting for rescue for sixteen years and nothing has happened. So, as Charlie says ominously at the end, guys, where are we are we we are in a very enjoyable TV series that is just throwing stuff at the screen with
abandon. That's right. A lot happens in forty three minutes or whatever it is, and there are, oh my goodness, so many characters. Each of them has to have a little moment, and I thought that was all done fairly graciously. I know these people at this point since I watched it. You do not, but there's a lot of oh yeah, that guy, and you know, knowing a lot more about them than they are getting
the merest of sketches right now. I mean, Sawyer is being painted as such a bad guy, and you know, Son and Jin have their thing, and her little unbuttoning of her sweater once he walks away is just a little delightful character note, and he seems very controlling and awful. As we learn about Michael and Walt that Walt's mother died and his dad has now come to take him, but that did not work out so well because they are crashed on an island. Who the heck knows. However, it does appear
that his dog survived the crash. But I did enjoy Terry O'Quinn yes upon hearing that Walt's mother has just died, says you're having a bad Mond love that. Yeah, a count Nina thing going on between the two of them, Yes, lovely, But you know, Locke telling it like it is. I don't think we've ever gotten name of Teri o'quinn's character said by anybody yet. But his name is Locke, his character's name, and and he needs someone to play back emmon with and Walt needs something to do, so
it does indeed. But the dog aforementioned, a dog that we discussed last week, is in fact Walt's dog, Vincent, and we assume they will soon be reunited now that Michael knows that the dog is a alive and be in a certain part of the jungle, and see that he could get him and maybe look good in his son's eyes, because so far not looking so good. Right, So but yeah, man, that kid, Wow,
poor Walt, Yeah, oh goodness. And we get a little sketch of Shannon is basically insufferable princess, but at least she kind of speaks French, kind of speaks French. It's the parents, see how important it is to have your child study a foreign language and never know when it will come in handy. She's not speaking French like I speak French, in which case there
would be about a seventy percent chance that she was translating it wrong. But she's got to be good for something, surely, right, other than just you know, sen bathing nearly naked for all guys to enjoy. Well, by my estimation, her French was reasonable. Okay, you could hear it enough to I mean, it was hard to hear for sure, but it did sound like that's what. Okay, good, good for you, Shannon, be good for something, babe. You spent a year in Paris.
She's like, yeah, not going to class. Yeah, we can relate, but we'll find a little bit. We've got a flashback of Charlie and when he was retrieving from the bathroom when they went and found the pilot, right, and a little flashback of Kate to find out that she oh fugitive.
And even though it seemed so very much more likely that the handcuffs that Michael and Walt found in the jungle had previously been confining either Sawyer or said in fact, it's Kate Kate, it was a nice detail that she put the oxygen mask on her captor well, while the plane was going down and he was knocked out. Yes, she's got about it for a second, but then she did it. She actually did it after having removed the key to her handcuffs from his pocket. She may regret having done done that.
I don't know. He didn't look too good, No, he doesn't. And also we got a little more of the adorable Hurley, one of my favorite characters, or hey Garcia, Yes Hurley. It was just really to a large degree, providing comic relief. And God bless him. Yes he's he's there, supposedly helping Jack with a surgery. And then just the side
of blood, not for him, not for him. I know, I think I could handle the side of the blood, But the side of a piece of metal being taken out of somebody's body and blood's spurting out afterwards. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. And on their way climbing, they find and Sawyer shoots a polar bear. The polar bear, yes, in the jungle, because why not, you know what, We're throwing stuff at the screen. And it's funny because I remember hearing that about
this show, that there's like randomly a polar bear in the Jungle. I thought it was. I didn't realize it was going to be an episode two, you know, I thought it was gonna be much later in the game. Yeah. What are the most fun things about the show when watching it the first time, when everybody was watching it the first time, is that
people were into the mystery of it and they were writing about it. There was I think a guy named Doc Jensen, who I think wrote for Entertainment Weekly, had a whole column that he would every week go into the mythology of all this stuff and explain what this meant, to explain what that meant, and like the Extra Hot Great Forum was full of stuff with people coming
up with really fantastic fiction about what was going on. Whether any of it was related to what the creators had in mind, I don't know, but it was certainly fun to read. And the polar Bear was one of those. There were lots of theories about the polar Bear and how the polar Bear got there and what the polar Bear meant. And I don't think I don't think any of it came to fruition. I think it's just a WTF thing that the creators would really like us to have forgotten about afterwards, but it's
sure it was really delightful. All the stuff that people wrote, all the creativity that this show unleashed, ultimately perhaps to no effect, right, but the joy I got from reading it was real, and I think that many people felt the same way. So, you know, and things like things, things coming up, lots of things. There are so many things. But you know, I think that Michael in this episode gave us lots of lessons on how not to parent. You know, like, I know you're
new to this guy. I know you're just just parenting now that your ex has passed. But know your kid's age would be good. It's just one figure. It's not hard. It's probably written down somewhere. And when you're your child is warning a lost pet, I'll get you a new dog. I'll get you a new dog. Yeah, Walt didn't take that very well. Really, Walks you're having a bad month is pretty much the best parenting we saw, right, YEP acknowledged their feelings. That was that was not
good man, pick up pick up here. I mean, yes, he's been through some trauma and he is new at this, like you said, but yes, he needs to get it together. Pretty quick. Yeah, there was. I forget how much Walter was in these early episodes. He was really in quite a bit of this That kid I seem to remember. I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but that young actor
was very good in this episode. I think wound up being indicative of of the difficulty of hiring child actress for shows that are going to go on for a while. Yeah, because they hit a growth streak in real life, and if your show is not observing the same time constraints of real life, and you expect them to come back the next season being the same agent sis, it's a miracle of the Island children age faster. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, but as of now, he's really very, very
good and very moving. So, and Claire is still pregnant, and there's lots of people. There's lots of people. Yes, Claire's still pregnant, and apparently the baby is coming back. I don't know she was. She was very worried about not feeling the baby. The women's supposed to eat shellfish. Is that like a thing that I heard or is that not? They're not supposed to eat sushi like raw fish, which which that was did. I don't think Jin had a high bachi. I had a little barbecue.
No, maybe that was the baby just going like, hey, hey, stop it, I don't like that. My bag is this? Yeah, but I don't think Claire's gonna take it that way. Oh my. So that is the pilot of lost ends, with mysterious transmissions, with mysterious uh creatures, a heck of a lot of screwed up people, yes, possible
felons amongst us. And uh although of course we were given to believe that, you know, this, this marshal who was transporting case seemed to be a very bad person, and yeah, you know, implied that no one was going to believe her. Yeah when she but of course we do because we already like her, right, we already liked her when we found out this information, So it's right. On the other hand, boy, did they go out of their way to make Sawyer look like at s ob didn't
they just there no shading on that role at the beginning. A couple of soulful looks maybe, but yeah, they were setting them as up as the enemy. So and I know they're all very different, but at the moment the Sawyer and then the Australian drug Charlie Charlie, and then there's Boon, right is the lifeguard slash step brother whatever? Yes, so those three are a little bit hard for me to tell apart. Right now, these three like young white guys that are supposed to be attractive, which they are.
I'm not saying they're not. Yes, well, well one of them has a British accent, one of them has brown hair, and one of them has a lot of stubble. So yeah, I'll get there. It just takes. Yeah, it is definitely one of those shows where you're like, now is that the which? Which guy is that? Who is that?
That's why it helps to have distinguishingly distinguishing characteristics. Yes, so you definitely know SAYI to SAYID, and you definitely know Michael is Michael and Jin is the guy out there speaking Korean. Yeah, so you can kind of tell them apart. Jack is our hero, I see if it's even been called right. So the rest of them will, over these many many, many, many, many many many weeks, differentiate themselves. Yeah, are we going to meet all forty eight? Some of them? There was I well,
I We'll get to it. But yes, there are there are a lot of characters we are being directed to pay attention to, and then there are people who will just exist to be killed by creatures. Right, there's just the fodder. But anyway, that is the beginning of Loss. Now, you said this made you less sick, much less? Yeah, I except for the flashbacks of the plane falling apart, I assume, right, But I was even able to take quick glances at that, and there was
just a little bit of running in the jungle and that. Yeah, everything else was pretty good, pretty good. Good. Well, don't don't eat any any shellfish. Somebody has just picked off the beach of mysterious Island and you should be just fine, right, what could go wrong? I'm with early in that, right, it was Darvin, But I'm not that dum. I'm not eating that whatever it is. Yeah, they just kind of took those two characters and said, we're gonna do something with gen and Son.
We don't know quite what yet, so we're just gonna have them off in a corner not speaking English. Right, we'll get there. Well, next Wednesday, we will continue with season one, episode three of Lost, which is Tabula Rasa. We will see you back here tomorrow. For our weekly Roundabout round up. Thank you for listening. You can find all our episodes on Spreaker, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can find recaps, links, and an opportunity to comment on
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