Yo , what up ? This is D-Night and you're listening to the Part of the Interaction podcast . My oh my , has it been a week ? I guess they're always weeks . Oh yes , every seven days is a week , but the seven days is so full of absolute , utter batshit insanity that it's really difficult to keep track of exactly what it is that's going the fuck on .
It's been so wild I'm not even exactly sure where to start , but we'll figure it out . And before we get to that , let's give a shout out to our sponsor , sheets and Giggles . Make sure you pick up a set of wonderfully soft , luscious sheets from SheetsandGigglescom for your friends and family for the holiday season .
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By the way , make sure you go back and check out our previous episode with Josh Bender , the youngest black elected official in the country . We had a fantastic time . It was quite delightful . I'm sure you'll enjoy it . And on to the endless fucking nonsense . Man , oh man .
So , of course , last week , rudy Giuliani was dealt what he referred to as the civil death penalty , and the court in Georgia ordered him to pay up $148 million to Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss Georgia election officials from the 2020 election , after he was found to have engaged in persistent defamation of their characters , causing them untold amounts of pain and
suffering and harm , just practically ruining these people's lives , in order to perpetuate the lie that the 2020 election was somehow stolen from Trump . It was rather funny listening to mainstream media news outlets talk about this dude like they were reading his obituary . It's pretty funny . It's all over for Rudy Giuliani .
They buried him , but in this case figuratively , not literally . I don't know what to say . You had it fucking coming . It's about time for consequences to start bounding up for the people who attempted to steal the 2020 election , whether that be Trump , rudy Giuliani , crackhead , mike Lindell or any of these other individuals .
You know the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers . They're in prison , like . The consequences are finally starting to mount . We're finally starting to make some headway . If only we had the ability to not let the length of time that it took to get to this point like impact our perspective on the severity of these consequences .
Like we all feel like , oh man , nothing's ever happened to these people . But like , really , if you stop and think about it and you took all of the things that's happened to Trump and his cohorts over the past two and a half years and you crammed into , say , three months time , you would feel a . You would feel a lot differently .
Let's just say that , like so , trump got impeached . Of course you know the Senate didn't convict , but there was a fucking impeachment hearing . You remember it ? It was absolutely wild , absolutely fucking bananas . It was a January 6th committee . They held a number of hearings , presented a bunch of damning information about Trump and Republicans in Congress .
Right , remember that . Oh , they issued a report . Did you read it ? Did you read it ? No , well , you know we've got a significant portion of it on the podcast and going to pour in the Insurrectioncom Change the season to season to a belief . No , check out some of the January 6th support audio format .
That way you don't have to sit and read that bitch for hours because it is quite long . The proud boys they're in prison . Oathkeepers , they're in prison . Over a thousand January 6th insurrectionists have pled guilty to crimes and a serving time or have served time . Mitch McConnell is shivering up his soul as damn near left his body .
Kevin McCarthy Not only is he no longer Speaker of the House , he's just totally out of Congress to get his ass about the paint all the way . Alex Jones , he lost the billion dollars . Y'all remember that , wasn't that long ago ? Fox News also lost nearly a billion dollars . My oh my , these kinds of quinches man they piled up .
Trump is found liable for raping New York . Hmm , media doesn't even talk about that anymore . The FBI rated Mar-a-Lago Some crazy shit . Hell . Trump is currently on trial in New York as we speak for decades of fraud . The judge is wearing his ass out . As a matter of fact , I'll read to you a few of the comments from Judge and Goren just from today .
Where's like the media coverage for this ? Who knows ? Quote a lie is still a lie .
Valuing occupied residences as a vacant , valuing restricted land as if unrestricted , valuing an apartment as if it were triple its actual size , valuing property many times the amount of concealed appraisals , valuing planned buildings as if completed and ready to rent , even golf courses with brand premium , while claiming not to , and valuing restricted funds as cash are not
subjective differences of opinion . They are misstatements at best and fraud at worst . Judge Ngoran is wearing his ass out . He's about to lose his entire Trump Organization . Like how's the consequences ? Ngoran's even calling out his expert witness and I'll give you the quote from that .
Trump's expert is quote , a tenured professor , but all that his testimony proves is that for a million or so dollars , some experts will say whatever you want them to say . That's because you know Trump . Between Trump and his pack , they pay the witness to get up there and say that there was no discernible fraud .
They pay this dude like a million dollars as wild , and the judge is like I wanted you guys . This is fucking crazy .
Fake electors getting indicted everywhere , like multiple states at this point , not to mention in Georgia , where Trump is also indicted , but also Rudy Giuliani , also Mark Meadows , who was trying to get this removed from state court and into federal court . That fell today Yet again , jeffrey Clark indicted . John Eastman indicted .
Sidney Powell indicted she , she played guilty . She cooperating Can the cheese bro . He cooperating , he on a work . He's like on a fake elector world tour , traveling around every state getting the fake electors locked up . I think Nevada was the most recent set of indictments . The fake electors from Wisconsin .
Like making public confessions that the 2020 election was not read and they weren't the legitimate electors and that they conspired to basically help Trump steal the fucking election . Like even they're out here telling the public that Biden won , jenna Ellis indicted , how ? That's nearly all the Trump's lawyers , marshall law , mike Lindell , is broke .
The way these Trumpers are losing all their money . They should have gone woke . You know Republicans are supposed to win the House in the midterms by 5060 seats . They currently have a one seat majority . Trump's finally headed toward a criminal trial in DC . You know , of course , it seems as though there might be a slight hiccup with the Supreme Court .
We'll get to that momentarily . As it currently stands , that trial is slated for March . That's three months from now . Svally going on trial for the coup on January 6th and all of the plotting leading up to it . Now again , assuming there are no shenanigans at the Supreme Court , that thing might get delayed a few weeks .
And most oh , did I mention like the Republican Party's going broke ? Yeah , like the RNC in states all across the country ? Their fundraising is record lows . Ain't no dollars out there to help them in 2024 . It's bad news . Bad news , guys . Well , I mean good news if you're a Democrat . Oh yeah , george Santel , he died .
He up out of there , like DOJ , is clearly not afraid to go after members of Congress . I don't think that bodes well for them in the future . Again , we'll get to that momentarily .
But look , what I'm saying is if you took all of the consequences over the course of the past you know two and a half , nearly three years now and you crammed them into a period of time of like , say , a few months or so , you'd be like oh , it's over for the Republican Party , it's over for them . Look at all the consequences . You see what I'm saying .
They are getting destroyed . But because the consequences have been spread out over a period of time and it's been a long , drawn out process , it it feels like nothing's happening , even though literally everything's happening . And not only is everything happening , but it's happening all at once .
It's all coalescing to unload the most serious potential consequences in an election year , which is bad for the bad guys . So just keep that in mind . You know it is a process , it's playing itself out . Now again , of course , we're going to have to vote for Joe Biden 2024 .
Like , I'm not saying that it's not in our hands , like , at the end of the day , regardless of what's to come , we do still have to take things into our own hands and save ourselves , but I'm OK with that . Like it's understanding that it's on us is totally fine . We just got to get out here due to work . Meanwhile , what are Republicans doing ?
Well , they're impeaching Hunter Biden and they can't even tell you what for All right they're .
They're they're impeaching Joe Biden , but , given that they can't even tell you what they're impeaching him for , and they've only made illusions to the idea that somehow President Biden profited off of his son's business ventures , which they have no proof of whatsoever and , like the time periods that they're quoting , he wasn't even in office . It's like 2018 , 2019 .
All right , trump was in office . Biden wasn't even running for office , wasn't even a , wasn't even a candidate . Yet Trump was running his fucking businesses out of the White House .
Like he's on Trump's a trial right now and the judge is like hey , you was charged in like a presidential premium when you were a value , when you were valuing your companies , but Joe Biden is the one out of your profiting off of the fuck out of here . Yeah , you know .
So every Republican , with their slim margin , voted to open an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden , not a single one of them could tell the public what the specific crimes were that they were investigating , and which seems insane .
I feel like you know if you're , if you're going to vote in unanimity to hold an impeachment inquiry , you could at least tell the public I don't know what you know crimes and missed high crimes and misdemeanors you're investigating . You ain't got no answers for that . You know , and this is like the one thing that you can find .
This is the one thing Republicans can support and impeach , but with no evidence into potential high crimes and misdemeanors that they can't define for us . And you know , given that this is the only thing they've been able to vote on , like apparently it was such a pressing matter .
Biden's behavior , which they can't tell us what they're investigating , was so egregious that it united the entire party to vote to open an impeachment inquiry . And then they went on vacation . They passed the vote to open an impeachment inquiry in the Joe Biden and then they clocked out for the winner homie .
That is insane , but clearly , look , obviously we all know what's going on here . Every time Republicans do something reasonable , like raise the debt ceiling or fund the government .
They have to do something insane , like open an impeachment inquiry with no evidence , because Trump is demanding that they do so , in order to for a couple of reasons , I suppose one for a false equivalency right , trump was impeached twice , so now they have to impeach Biden , so impeachment means nothing to the public .
They can say , well , look , biden got impeached too , so Trump's off the hook . But it's not just that , though . Like give him all the negative things that are happening to Trump and everyone in his inner circle . Like right wing media needs counterprogramming .
They need something that they can focus all of their attention on , tunnel vision style and totally tune out the actual news so they can pump it into the brains of their massive amounts of sheep-like supporters , creating a media bubble that's near an alternate reality to keep their supporters consumed and distracted , and not focusing on the actual problems in real life
news surrounding Trump and his cohorts and the evidence of their guilt and the likelihood that in 2024 , their electoral chances are doomed . You know , with the economy booming , inflation down , record job growth , record stock market performance , I mean , like , with all this good buy news , republicans need something to talk about , and that's really just what it is .
Speaking of Hunter Biden . He was recently indicted here on a number of counts relating to not paying his taxes . We don't have to go super far in a detail about like the very specific nature of the charges .
Suffice to say that a majority of the people who are in the country are , a majority of the time , like I don't know , maybe 90 something plus percent of the time In cases like these . In cases like these , where someone is found to have not paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes , eventually settles and pays up , that person's not indicted .
It's just simple fact . Like prosecutors and you know we were in like the legal Twitter circles will tell you former prosecutors they don't have any examples of anyone else in a similar situation who eventually paid off their debt and for being indicted .
In fact , we've got a number of examples of individuals closely related to Trump who didn't pay their taxes and are facing significant debt , including having tax liens put on their houses or their business , and they weren't indicted .
Case of point Rudy Giuliani and Alina Hava yeah , that's right , trump's former lawyer and his current lawyer both dealing with significant amounts of money and delinquent taxes and Having a lien placed on their home in the case of Rudy Giuliani and having a lien placed on her business .
In the case of Alina Hava , trump's worst lawyer , all right , it's really difficult to tell she's the worst cuz . I mean , I just You've . We've talked about this on the podcast . He's run the gamut . A number of his other lawyers are criminally indicted and some are even cooperating against him , so it just yes , yeah .
Now I'm not saying it's a witch hunt , but what I am saying is a lot of former prosecutors will also tell you that they don't have any examples of a prosecutor offering the subject of their investigation a plea deal that includes only misdemeanors and Turning around and in dining them with as many felonies as they can possibly come on with .
They just don't have any examples . And I , you know , look , I honestly I don't care about hunter by it , like who was due to me , right ? He ain't my guy , I ain't vote for him in 2024 , like , oh Well , right , but clearly this is intended to .
I Mean , I'm assuming , I can only assume that vice , the special counsel Investigating hunter Biden , who offered him that plea deal and , when it fell apart , hit him with all these charges like that was because of pressure from the right .
No , on the one hand , I do believe hunter Biden's probably got a fairly reasonable argument For selective prosecution based on the grounds that they got no other examples of this should ever happen in ever . And then they have many counter examples of individuals in the same position Non-facing any criminal charges whatsoever .
You know also , hunter Biden's like this is peanut and motherfuckers . He's trying to get communications between Weiss and people the DOJ and communications between you know people the DOJ and Trump and just like . He's really going after it and He'll be able to raise that argument in a pretrial motion .
But should that fail , like if this does go to court and he's not able to introduce that evidence of trial , I mean , look it's . It's not gonna go well for him . So , yeah , we'll have to deal with that when we do .
But I think a large majority of the population who are not super online are making their decision about whether or not to vote for Joe Biden based on Joe Biden , now hunter Biden . But again , like I said , it's ain't about that .
This is , you know , an attempt by Republicans to muddy the waters and and to create counter-programming so they can avoid talking about actual facts .
Because , as I was saying earlier , odds are we are dealing with a Trump trial NDC of his attempt to overturn the 2020 election in about three months March , maybe April at the latest , unless there's some shenanigans From the Supreme Court .
Now Trump's filed a pretrial motion in DC Asserting that he has total and absolute immunity for any actions taken while he was in office . It's president of the United States now . We all know that's some total bullshit . I , josh Chalky , knew some total bullshit , like she ripped them shreds .
The thing is , though , because this is an assertion of immunity , it is subject to interlocutory appeal just pretrial appeal and , of course , because it's an argument that has never really been tested in court , it is likely going to make its way to the Supreme Court in all likelihood , even if it has to go through the appeals process first , so Jack Smith decided
to circumvent the whole appeals process , or at least attempt to , by requesting an expedited hearing by the Supreme Court justices so they could take this up early in January , get an answer , get it out of the way and keep this trial schedule pretty much intact .
Now , again , we don't have to delve super deeply into , like , the intricate details of the legal process and the legal argument here . That's . That's not what we're going to do on this in this particular instance Instead , one thing that it appears as though no one else is talking about . What if everything goes wrong ?
What if the Supreme Court , in taking this up , decides to slow roll it because at this point , due to the appeal , all of the pretrial obligations have been temporarily stayed , like you know , that stuff is on pause until this appeal is settled ?
Like what if the Supreme Court decides to slow roll this as much as possible , judge cannon style and help Trump , delay this criminal trial as long as possible ?
Or , even worse , what if the conservatives on the Supreme Court decide they would like to bail Trump out and maybe they don't go full on , you know presidential immunity here , which again would be an insane argument . It would be like , you know , a president of the United States could just kill Congress in that way .
You know , even though it would be a high crime and misdemeanor to kill Congress , there would be no one to impeach him , so it'd be impossible to charge him with criminal charges or he could just stay in office forever . I could be an insane argument .
What if they tailor their decision narrowly just to specifically benefit Trump in this one particular instance that might bail him out of trial ? What does Jack Smith do ? You haven't thought about that , have you ? Well , that's OK .
I am here to tell you that , in all likelihood , given what I know , just given what's publicly available about the evidence collected by Jack Smith and company , I think Jack Smith has made some concessions in what he is willing to charge and narrowly tailored his indictment strategy around getting Trump in court as soon as possible , to the exclusion of a number of
Trump's co-conspirators . Hear me out here . Smith knows the election is in 2024 . He's got to get this trial out of the way before the election , otherwise , in all likelihood , trump could either pardon himself or , you know , temporarily let his vice president hold office of president and issue a pardon to Trump .
Or , even more simply , just a point , an attorney general who's willing to drop the charges against Trump . You know , because , again , even if he's convicted , as long as it's on appeal , a corrupt attorney general or DOJ would have the opportunity to drop the charges and therefore nullify the conviction . I know it sucks , but again , this is Jack Smith's plan A .
And if somehow the Supreme Court throws a monkey wrench in his plans and delays this trial until after the election or , even worse , bailstrum out , what is Jack Smith's plan B .
I personally believe plan B Is indict every fucking body , all the Trump's co-conspirators , everyone who appears to have skated temporarily , all the Trump's co-conspirators in Congress , everyone who was involved in the fake elector plot , anyone who was involved in helping the plan January 6th .
I think Jack Smith was attempting to make sure he didn't do anything that could potentially delay Trump's March trial in DC by indiging other co-conspirators and subjecting that trial to you know , even more pretrial motions , like , especially if it's members of Congress .
Then they file all kinds of fucking emotions , clamming immunity based on the speech and debate clause , which would inevitably get appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court , which would inevitably cause more and more delay . Like he didn't want to mock this up . That's why the indictment is so clean and there's no co-conspirators .
And once this trial is over , I assume he was planning on working his way back down the pyramid and cleaning up afterwards and getting everyone that he didn't get in this first set of indictments . But if somehow Skotis manages to throw a wrench in Jack Smith's plan , plan B is to go after every other Republican in every other crackhead .
Am I going to know in Trump's circle who was involved in attempting to illegally overturn the election . So I don't think Republicans know this , but they better be secretly hoping and rooting for the Supreme Court to do the right thing and throw Trump under the bus , because if not , the Supreme Court will be throwing Republicans under the bus .
And just remember , democrats have a majority in the Senate and Republicans they only have a one seat majority in the Senate , and I don't think it would take too many indictments to get that majority back for Democrats . And that concludes this episode of part of the interaction .