I used to like frozen food still frozen , and I might still like that . I don't know .
I just haven't been doing it Hard pass , thanks .
That's some JD .
Vance type shit .
That's a no Carol . I liked frozen jalapeno poppers .
I'm out .
Oh , like cooked , though , no , I had one , I would eat them frozen .
Alright , I'm done , I'm going to count to six . Jesus , I would eat them like frozen . All right , I'm done . All right , I'm going to count to six . Jesus Christ , I just watched a serial killer movie and now I'm starting to wonder if everybody around me is a fucking serial killer eating frozen jalapeno poppers Frozen , jesus .
It's like I mean it was the cream cheese kind and it had like I mean I've had jalapeno ice pops that were good . It's got the cream and it like melts . I've never had like a spicy ice pop two .
Hey , this is the night this is carol . This is ty you're listening to the bar in the interaction podcast , where apparently one of us eats frozen jalapeno poppers while they're still frozen , like a serial killer , uh , speaking of which I watched trap the other day .
One of us is obsessed with serial killers and thinks just regular weird stoned behavior is is indicative of evil okay , fair enough .
That's a decision you make , either when you're a serial killer or you're extraordinarily high . But I did watch Trap the other day at the theater the M Night Shyamalan movie you know I wouldn't necessarily think about this guy who takes his kid to a concert , but the concert is a trap for a serial killer .
On the loose Plot twist , the guy is the serial killer and he's trying to like weave his way out of it . Uh , again it takes a plot twist , again towards the end . Um , with the conclusion we're not getting to the specifics of the spoilers , but um , it is an okay movie . Again , like if you rock with m9 shamalon , I guess , I guess you'll like it .
But like it's just like a movie on its own . It's got some flaws and some issues , but I mean it was entertaining . You know he's .
I don't know , I don't think he's really been putting out anything really stellar .
He ain't in his this wasn't his bag , right . And then the last one with the end of the world at the . The cabin thing , uh , it was fine . Uh , not some again . I'll watch twice , but it was okay . Now the superhero movies unbreakable , uh , glass , all of those . Those are pretty dope anyway , let's get off of that .
Um , because we've got another weirdo to talk about in jd vance shortly , but in case you missed it , somehow kamala harris . In the campaign they rolled out the red carpet for her vice presidential pick . Tim walls , the governor of minnesota , minnesota , um , they've been on fire , like you .
You know the welcome reception that he received from the party , at least online and at the rallies . It's been off the charts . I mean , it's just indicative of the Harris campaign continuing to just knock it out of the park at every turn . I don't think I've ever seen a presidential campaign start off like this and then just never make a mistake .
It's been some incredible shit to watch , especially like the democratic party , because you know we're all about it's just unforced errors , um , I think that , um , she has really done a lot to dispel or debunk how people try to paint her as not likable .
It's undeniable at this point . If you look at all the hoopla around , her and the excitement and everyone is . I mean , look at her rallies , that's like . Yeah off the charts .
No , you're excited , I get it . It's some off the charts Obama level shit . Like she get it . It's . It's some off the charts obama level shit . Like she had the rally in uh , was it michigan today that the registration was so like out of this world that she moved into like a uh what ?
Was the airplane hangar yeah a flight hangar just , and then that thing was blowed out like it was incredible , uh it looked like great . I know he's not happy , mike lindell , no but so let's , let's take a second to tackle that thing . You said the kamala harris is unlikable , quote , unquote . So do you know where that like frame of reference came from ?
no , I don't know where it originated like trump fox news . So one of the things so we thought we were talking about this , uh , offline , but , um , one of the things that happened immediately after the 2020 election . Well , basically in 2021 .
Uh , once fox news got their footing after january 6th , is the uh , the like , the attacks , the angle that fox news immediately started to take surrounding , you know , biden , harris and their campaign was so the trump is old , too old . That originated on fox and then the kamala harris is unlikable .
Those were the two angles that they chose and they stuck to and like the problem with fox news and like the right wing , you know , media industrial complex , disinformation , industrial complex .
The thing is because , like they have such a massive echo chamber but is an echo chamber nonetheless , like they have such a massive echo chamber but is an echo chamber nonetheless , like they can influence so many people .
Yeah .
Into , like , if you spend enough time pumping this information into people's heads , it will have an effect on their behavior .
But because their audience is so large , eventually those narratives they spread into the mainstream consciousness and , like with Biden's age , mainstream media eventually picked up on that and , as you saw , they wouldn't let the narrative go until he was out of the race . Obviously .
But the Kamala Harris is unlikable thing that originated on the right , just kind of this amorphous thing that you just tell people enough , right .
Just kind of this amorphous thing that you just tell people enough and over a long enough course of time they started to believe it's true , even though there wasn't really any evidence to support that I mean , other than some polling . But again , like , the polling is influenced by the narrative that the right wing was putting out there .
And now that kamala harris is in the spotlight , like that , that narrative has been shattered and part of the reason why she didn't have as much of an opportunity , um , just to do public facing events in the way that she's doing now that she's the front runner and the democratic nominee is like , obviously one of the more subtle attacks on on biden was that
harris was like secretly running the white house oh yeah oh , pulling his strings . And just like with obama when biden was president , there's always this tenuous balance between , like , how do you promote your vice president without like letting that person overshadow what you're doing while you're in office ?
I mean , it's just , that's just the dance , especially when you're a democrat . But I mean , trump was keenly aware of mike pence's like public perception and that's why trump didn't let him do shit like .
The one time he tried to let pence do some shit , he was like oh yeah , well , we'll let like , since we the pandemic is a hoax , we'll let you like do the pandemic press conferences . And I think pence did like two of those . And trump was like oh fuck that bro , I'm taking over . And then that's how we got our infamous .
You know , inject yourself with like we had everything from demon sperm to horse haze , to bleach injections and I remember the first one .
I was almost like , alright , he's handling this okay . Because the first one he's like , yeah , we already have a website tracking every case in real time . And I was like , alright , and we have all these measures in place . And I was like wow and I looked it up and I'm like , oh man , none of that's true no , yeah .
And then yeah , he was saying all of this shit we're gonna have like a task force , we're gonna get all these companies together and like none of that it was . Not only was it not planned , it never happened , but that was also like when he was saying , basically , if you don't test for it , it doesn't exist . I mean , look , it's been a whirlwind experience .
The more that .
I mean Biden was great .
He was a great president . He did a really good thing for the American people . But when I go back over the years , this has been my little thing right now is to like share his bat shit craziness on Facebook .
Who ?
comes to us , wow , yeah , and then I'll go and I like videos that I'm able to download , I'll download . And I was like this fool said this and most people didn't see those things because Fox never covered that . You know what ? What I mean ? Like they would never cover the ridiculousness .
And you know , even if you heard him say , like if you were at a rally or listen , it was like there was some kind of disconnect . And I think that now people are coming out of their fever dream and they're snapping back into reality , like oh shit , we almost fucked this up , like okay .
So there's a lot of people who like , who voted in 2020 and then just didn't pay attention to politics anymore and now that , like , the election's in full swing again , part of the like the polling is just weird because people one want a memory hole 2020 just because , again , obviously for a lot of people it was traumatic or frustrating .
You just don't want to think about like what a fucking disaster .
People don't want to admit that they voted for him in 2020 that's why they go . I voted for him in 2016 because 2016 is like okay , I can forgive you for that , because we really didn't know , but they low-key like voted for him in 2020 , so we want to act like it never happened .
Yeah , like he just said something and then the very next second , say something else .
If he didn't just say what he said before , like 30 seconds ago , kind of thing more importantly , at least concerning politics , like I think part of the reason why trump was polling fairly strong is because people , just like in the news , didn't help with this at all . Just memory holds the whole trump experience .
Like we just stopped talking about how crazy the fucking shit was . They just moved on and pretended like the shit didn't happen . But you know , biden dropping out of the race I think that shit went up like a fucking you know , like the bat signal or something and then people were like , oh , this is fucking serious .
They started paying attention and now everyone's being reminded of just how insane it was when trump was president , how not insane it's been while biden has been president , because clearly they haven't had to pay attention to politics and like , oh , that shit is crazy and that's why , like his polling is collapsing overnight .
It's not just the Kamala effect , but like people being confronted with reality having a huge , or at least a seemingly huge , impact on public polling at least , not that I rely too heavily on that .
I just feel like that something just snapped and I think the pressure that we were putting on with the Project 2025 thing was a start , and thank you again to Raji Henson for using the platform .
Put that respect to her name . Thank you , Raji .
Thank you people were like whoa . And then people started googling .
People started like and they're like this is , this is nuts and that they put it in writing is insane too , but I mean , yeah that they put it .
Did you see how christopher rufo was having a meltdown ? He was on one today . It was like back to back to back tweets against um wall , but they were so unhinged . I think Allison had posted and it was like this dude is losing his mind , like they were complete . I mean , he's already a lunatic , but they were completely unhinged . He was , he was .
He was posting Trump style like back to back to back . It was wild . I was like good God , this man is is really losing it , really losing it because they're starting to see their , their racist utopia that they've been hoping for all these years .
Their dreams are fading . Their dreams are fading fast .
And part of the reason they're fading is just because of the obvious success of the rollout of the Harris campaign and now her vice presidential pick . They don't have anything on , they don't have any attacks against , but let's give him his flowers here . He was at the announcement rally the other day and he came out of the gate swinging pretty strong .
I mean , I was impressed as well .
If you've yet to see this , Now , donald Trump sees the world a little differently than us . First of all , he doesn't know the first thing about service . He doesn't have time for it because he's too busy serving himself . Again and again and again , trump weakens our economy to strengthen his own hand . He mocks our laws .
He sows chaos and division , and that's to say nothing of his record as president . He froze in the face of the COVID crisis . He drove our economy into the ground and , make no mistake , violent crime was up under Donald Trump .
That's not even counting the crimes he committed .
You can read his face he nods out of the park . Um , when I saw the list of potential candidates that , yes , was going to pick as a running man , I was like , well , none of like of all of these . There is no miss . So she couldn't have made a bad decision .
Yeah , upon seeing this dude handle , uh , that first rally , I mean he's knocked out of the park and there's just so many things about this dude to make him like the perfect counterbalance to trump's pick of jd vance . It's insane . It's like they built this dude in a lab just to beat jd vance's ass into a just to be .
He's like everything that vance wanted hillbilly elegy or shillbilly lethargy , whatever .
Shillbilly feligy .
Yeah , something like that , whatever he wanted to embody in that book , lily bless fill believe . Everything that Vance wanted that book to imply like you get that in this guy . He's like Midwestern to the core . You know Lily White , nice wife like dad , energy , football coach , teacher , military vet , hunter like loves .
Like literally yes .
He loves cats . So JD Vance is out there pissing off every cat lady . Like you know , tim has a fucking cat Even drinks Diet Mountain Dew Like it's like it's the thing of like Vance's nightmares . It's crazy .
One thing that I have noticed is how close he is with his daughter they seem to have . She influences him a lot in a good way . Like I would think he was talking about the gun violence , I think it was something like after another mass shooting or something and she's like dad , you have to , you have to do something you know , yeah and he's .
I think spasm's pretty . Not stringent but effective gun safety legislation in min . I mean he's on to everything you would want in a running mate that you would want to compliment Kamala Harris this guy brings to the table .
Yeah , I think that they are a great pair and I do what is he 661 ?
661 is one of those .
I thought he and Kamala Harris were the same age . What is he ? 61? , 60 , 61 , one of those .
I thought he and Kamala Harris were the same age .
They're like two years apart , because she's 59 . So he's like two years , yeah , a year or two older , not too much , but yeah . But Josh Shapiro was on fire . Oh my God , I listened to his speech like five times . Yeah , but how he . He wasn't bitter or butthurt .
I think that Josh Shapiro has a great future ahead of him , a long future in politics , and just that media was trying to do this thing , that where they were because he didn't get selected as the VP .
They're trying to create some kind of chaos inside the party by , like pitting walls and Shapiro against each other . I mean it's clearly not working .
But like Shapiro addressed it basically immediately at the rally , uh , where he was saying , look , he's here to serve his state and help Kamala Harris , Kamala Harris and Tim walls become the next leaders of the United States , I mean , put that to bed .
And I just With Pennsylvania being a battleground state , I think that Josh has needed more in Pennsylvania right now . All right , on the one hand .
Yeah , but I mean , if he was on the ticket , will you instantly win Pennsylvania ? So that , and that was one of the things I was thinking about when she picked Walls . I was like , well , so like , walls is great , but he's not gonna automatically win you a swing state , but there's , he's not gonna hurt the campaign either .
You know , I was just I mean I honestly think that he is . I think that he's gonna sway , uh like even more like independence and he's gonna have a broader appeal for sure , and that's why they're getting out there doing two rallies a day and really like because they don't have so much time .
But when I started to notice him , he started coming up in my feed little videos , and then people were like , oh man , this guy is is cool . And then I was like , oh , let me learn a little bit more about this guy , because he didn't have the name cachet , not a kelly or shapiro he does now , but yeah , absolutely , absolutely .
And they're , they're really , really trying and they're bringing up a dui he got 30 years ago and trying to say that he abandoned it . And it's like I'm just , I'm done with arguing with trolls , because this attack on him that he's like an alcoholic , no , that he abandoned it .
And it's like I'm just , I'm done with arguing with trolls , because this attack on him that he's like an alcoholic .
No , that he like had an incident and it was an inflection point for him and then that's what caused him to stop drinking . Stop drinking , yeah , that's like obviously you want someone who can share . A story like that is like here's an example of where I was making a mistake in my life and I fixed it and look where I am now .
So the two biggest things about him admitting to a mistake is something that Trump doesn't understand . You got there Most .
Republicans don't understand that .
Although , to be fair , trump does understand not drinking . Say what you want to about you know his undisclosed drug habits . One of the things is noteworthy about him is he just doesn't consume alcohol whatever , I'm not giving him that much credit for that .
Like the , other parts that he didn't have any awareness of the situation or humility . It was the the humility or being being able to admit fault . That's more important , you know no , it is .
I was just saying a thing , but I was going , I was also saying I did nothing wrong , that's his , that's his line I was also getting to this point about how you know there's the you know political saying like well , what guy would you want to sit down and have a beer with ? Well , for one , trump doesn't even drink beer .
So like , that's one thing , but also , like you , we've never seen him laugh . Why would you want to have a beer and have a conversation with someone that that's never laughed in public ?
But so the two things I think most noteworthy about walls above all else in like this is like generally speaking , like why he'll have such universal appeal is again , I'm not white , but you know I do know white people and this guy is every white person's dad . Like in the most generic , like boilerplate sense of like this is like if you're watching a sitcom .
Yeah , he's a sitcom white dad 90s sitcom yeah , and then two and this is hilarious .
It's like Kamala Harris was sitting around thinking like I wonder who would be the perfect VP pick for me . I know what I'm going to do . I'm going to do what Obama did . I'm going to go get Joe Biden .
She basically picked a younger version of Joe Biden , without the verbal gaffes , and I think you know again , this is one of the I mean I guess you have to do like the cost benefit analysis . I could pick a swing state governor and sort that state , or like I have this other guy over here who I know have you know this broad mass appeal .
It'll complement the administration in ways that maybe you know a Shapiro or a Whitmer wouldn't , and that's where we ended up where we are . But it's amazing pick Turned out great so far . And I can , no , no , go ahead . No , I can just like I can see what Harris was thinking and like to see that come to fruition practically overnight .
It's just an incredible move . I mean again , I've never seen a campaign like this , where it's just not a mistake made .
What were you about to say ? Well , I was going to say that , even though they're only , you know , one or two years apart in age , she presents younger , yeah , and I think that because he does , you know , present like the fun uncle grandpa vibes from him , and I think that's going to appeal to older voters .
I think that they might would have been oh no , well , anyway so ty has unfortunately dropped off , but we're still here .
She'll be back .
She'll be back , but uh , something just to play off where ty was going . It's a perfect example of like this weaponization of age that was used against joe biden being flipped and used in a positive way to help the harris campaign , because while he does present as older , it's like in a welcome back . Uh , I don't know what you were saying , but I was .
I was getting to this point based off what you were saying . It's like the pick of walls was like a great . It's a great like .
It's like jujitsu right , it was a way or judo where they took all of this negative energy surrounding the perception of age of joe biden and then she flipped it and she's turning it into like a tool that's working for the campaign instead of against it because , like you said , walls does present older , but it's like in the fun grandpa way yeah , yeah , exactly ,
I , I think that it will be like I said , like you know , the older voters , I think that will .
Like I said , they might would be a little suspect of josh shapiro because of age , and then Kamala , I don't . I don't know if that there would have been as much of a balance . Yeah , on the ticket , and I think that Walls presents , he gives that balance he's .
He's the compliment that probably didn't exist in any other .
The other candidates on the show yeah , no , I , I would definitely , uh , definitely , um , you know , agree with that . But yeah , I mean just I . I , when she picked him , the more I learned about him , I was like this I think this was the best choice . I think this was the best choice and it's I mean .
I don't want to say I mean , of course , nobody is is perfect , and I don't want to jinx it and say you know , the sky doesn't have a you know anything . But it's not like he's lived a life , just a milquetoast life , like he's done so many incredible things .
He has had some experience , like getting his DUI , and I think that's a great talking point , a way to say like , hey , you know , I messed up , we make mistakes , take responsibility for that , hold yourself accountable and do better . And he did do better , you know , yep , she did 10 out of 10 pick .
So Kamala Harris . Um , after her , you know , airplane hanger rally , which was just fucking incredible .
Um , she held another rally later in the day , where she was heckled by a protester , but sadly for that protester , that likely resulted in an outcome that they weren't fond of he intends to surrender our fight against the climate crisis and he intends to end the affordable care act .
You know what ? If you want donald trump to win , then say that , otherwise I'm speaking that's that mom .
Look yo . All right , say whatever you want to about kamala harris not having biological children . Uh , that's some black mom . Energy for your ass , right there , right , um yeah , I mean , just like I wish like Biden had been able to handle protesters in such a manner , just like being stern and straightforward .
Hey , look like we ain't playing no games around here . Y'all go do your homework , eat your dinner and take your asses to bed , but so what was the protester saying ?
Was that discernible ?
I was one of them . Ok , one of them pro Hamas kids probably , I don't know . Just trying to cause a ruckus . Yeah , you know how they like try . They never protest Republicans . Have you noticed that , even though Republicans are far more hardcore on like Israel annexing Gaza ?
And anyway , one of those knuckleheads she just took him out but in terms of what the Trump campaign is doing , I don't know if you've seen any clips of Trump's rallies here lately , but it's almost as though , like we saw that video where the bullet clearly did not hit Trump I don't know how his ear was bleeding , but it wasn't from a bullet .
Well , it's almost as though the bullet actually did hit him and he's dead . And now he's living in purgatory because his rallies are just like their graveyards . Like he gets up there , he rambles for an hour about some incoherent bullshit . There's like no energy , no crowd , no juice . He was just . You know he was trying to trash Kamala .
I can't remember what he was saying . He was just you know he was trying to trash kamala . Or I can't remember what he was saying saying like kamala loves the mobs , that they were , you know , destroying the country in 2020 and she just wanted to let . And then like no one's in the back , like there's no excitement or or applause and anything .
It's just like it .
It makes me sound like an evil . Muppet .
It's an evil . Muppet now I mean , he does kind of sound like an evil Muppet . Uh , but yeah , his campaign rallies are dead and , like , I've never seen as much excitement at a campaign rally , possibly since 2008, . Uh , like what we're seeing at these Harris rallies .
But what that does bring me to is , well , clearly , the Trump campaign had a plan set in stone . Right , they were going to ride this Joe Biden is old Hunter Biden laptop slash criminal thing , criminal conviction thing into the ground . And now that that's no longer an option , they've yet to pivot .
You know , not only do they not have anything , you know whatever measly attacks they're trying to sling towards Kamala Harris and Tim Walls . Now they're either not sticking or they're backfiring , and I think at this point , what we're seeing is campaigning is basically over . It is what the campaigns are , what they are now .
Yes , they're going to continue to campaign until the election , but really what we're seeing is , I think , like just the beginning of how this is just going to continue to be like a landslide mean , maybe not a landslide election , but they're like the harris campaign is just going to keep piling on and part of the reason why I think , when trump loses in november
, we're going to look back at this and and like , if there's anyone to blame for trump's laws at this point , it's actually going to be the media , and I'll tell you why in just a second . So one of the things I'm just I cannot stand the media for , it's just this incessant need to kind of normalize all the trump's insane behavior from .
You know the pandemic response to , like his first impeachment , where he was trying to get ukraine to open a sham investigation into Biden there's a running theme here trying to abuse his position to slander the Biden family . The January 6th thing Trump was convicted on 34 felonies . His business was convicted on multiple crimes .
He's lost numerous civil suits to the tune of half a billion dollars .
You know , found liable for sexual assault , practically raped the way it was described , except , you know , the only detail that changed it from rape to sexual assault was that , you know , eg didn't know if it was his finger or his dick because it was that small right like the , the media is just like brushed on by all of this crazy shit and they've just like ,
so they've gone through this effort of normalizing these insane like like I . I don't even know what tier of scandal it could possibly be , but like this is like God tier level scandals .
We've had all outrage exhaustion too , and we're like some of us are forgetting what the outrage is , but they're not reminding us .
Exactly . Here's where that's going to bite Trump in the ass right , Because people have become so he's going to talk now .
They can't keep him silent now . He's campaigning for president . No , no , no , no .
It's not even that . It's because the media has made sure that so much of the public is desensitized to this insane shit . The only way you're going to get a scandal to stick to the Harris campaign , if it's even beyond that right . Whatever their plan was to smear the the biden campaign .
Since they no longer have that to rely on , they're not going to be able to come up with anything that sticks to harris , because nothing is going to match the levels of shit that people have already become numb to yeah , they're like oh um doug cheated on his first wife , yeah who cares yeah they happy family .
Now it's like what , yeah , yep , they don't have anything . And then whatever they do come up with , it'll be so minute and unimportant that it nothing's gonna stick . And then that's on top of the fact that , like once the jd vans rollout happened , they got hit with the weird label and they're not going to shake that either .
And I think , in terms of , like , how the campaigns will go , it's already set in stone at this point . I mean , obviously , I guess you know there could be something that changes . But again , we just got , you know , hit with the news of Trump taking that bribe from , likely taking that bribe from Egypt , and that barely making a ripple in the news headlines .
But we'll get to that later . So , like , if it's not anything like that , it's over in terms of , like , the Trump campaign having some kind of comeback . But they're gonna try and I'm sure they'll try and find something that sticks .
But I don't think , if it's nothing that the mainstream media will pick up on and hammer the same way that they did with Biden's age , they won't , they don't have a shot .