Episode 11: The Carnage is the Point

CW: Hate speech/language, child molestation, sexual abuse

I begin by talking about the past week (Oct 21-27 2018) of domestic terrorism from the #MAGABomber, the white supremacist murderer in Kentucky, and the anti-semitic massacre at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh.

Then, I revisit "The Hate Project, Ep. 16" which was broadcast on Christmas Eve 2012. I gave Martin Lindstedt, pastor in the Christian Identity movement, an uninterrupted interview. It's an often incoherent dialogue. Lindstedt describes his dysfunctional family background, embracing white supremacy in the Christian Identity movement, and the allegations against him as a child molester of his grandson. He specifically blames the state for stealing his grandchildren and family, and this serves as justification for wanting a civil war, and his welcoming of carnage and chaos in destroying our civilization as we know it.  This one is hard, because in trying to foster a real in-depth dialogue in order to understand hate and hate groups, it feels like I just gave a platform to a pedophile white supremacist without the value of edification. However, I did share this interview from the past to allow people to make connections between the talking points espoused by a fringe lunatic like Lindstedt and what we are hearing in America from the current Presidential administration and the right-wing conservative ecosphere, including the folks who have carried out the most recent terrorist attacks this past week. 

References from episode:

Attacks inspired by Trump: https://theintercept.com/2018/10/27/here-is-a-list-of-far-right-attackers-trump-inspired-cesar-sayoc-wasnt-the-first-and-wont-be-the-last/

Cesar Sayoc, #MAGABomber:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/26/who-cesar-sayoc-florida-man-arrested-bomb-like-devices/1774140002/

Conspiracy theories of George Soros and Migrant Caravans: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/a-conspiracy-theory-about-george-soros-and-a-migrant-caravan-inspired-horror/2018/10/28/52df587e-dae6-11e8-b732-3c72cbf131f2_story.html?utm_term=.80e94cf75da4&noredirect=on

Anti-Black Hate Execution in Kentucky 10/24/18: https://apnews.com/c9ab76164f0a4461a2372dbacb5f291d

Anti-Semitic Hate Massacre in Pittsburgh 10/27/18:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/28/victims-expected-be-named-after-killed-deadliest-attack-jews-us-history/?utm_term=.8fa4c086d47c

Gab.ai white supremacist sanctuary: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/10/28/how-gab-became-white-supremacist-sanctuary-before-it-was-linked-pittsburgh-suspect/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.dea6926cf872

HIAS: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/why-the-tree-of-life-shooter-was-fixated-on-the-hebrew-immigrant-aid-society

GOP and white supremacists: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-state-lawmakers-white-nationalists-rslc-silent_us_5bcd82e4e4b0a8f17eee0a1d?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__Politics__102218&utm_content=__Politics__102218+Version+B+CID_f0406721075a87ccff0015695c688a95&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=READ%20MORE&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__Politics__102218

Trump advocation for armed guards in synagogue: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-laments-hate-our-country-after-synagogue-murders-says-armed-n925216?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

"The Devil's Workshop" Novel: https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-688-16618-2

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