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Well, we're back with cocktail hour. Pants. Pants in the PM. Pants, not fireside. Because it's way too hot out for that. Oof. Pants PM. Pants PM. Now that sounds like, that sounds nasty. Yeah. Pants after dark. That's all I got. It's 100 and fuck degrees outside. What else is a pee, though? It's a great thing. We're no longer doing the morning.
Although we've said this now every time. Well, I'm still excited. I am too. Okay. But it's okay. Let's refresh that. It's really exciting to take this out of. The early morning. Everyone's awake. Everyone's had a day. Well, let's tell everyone what we just did. We did our first pants.
But this was like the first time I think you and I. Two Gen Xers trying to figure out Instagram live. It was a lot. We even had to call Anna after it was over to ask her how to upload it. Well, OK, so here's what happened. You came over an hour before this. And we planned on going live. Well, first you fed me snacks. Well, you were starving when you showed up. I didn't realize how hungry I was.
You're like, I'm going to need a snack. I mean, what do you got? And I housed your chips and salsa. Thank God we had it. I had some carrots. Hit the spot. I feel great. Chips and salsa. Yep. Got a fresh iced tea to calm myself down. And then we did a live. Well, we set up and then we went outside and we did a live.
Yeah. Not bad. Good for us. I mean, an accomplished day. We never do live. I know, but now it's going to be a thing, right? With all pure, I'm being purely genuine. Good for us. Yeah. I'm proud of us too. But we want to. Keep that up, too. We were saying it's nice. Well, it's like you it's we get a response. It's like, oh, we're not just talking to the air right now. Good give and take.
you never know who's listening and I felt like oh there's people out there and people were tossing out some interesting ideas Next time I'm going to wear better glasses. Yeah, you got to. Those are, I couldn't see. Step that up. You couldn't. I couldn't see a thing. And considering you have a thousand of them laying around the house in the car. I wasn't ready. You got the worst pair. I could have run into my house, but I.
Went to the most immediate location. I said, go grab your glasses. I didn't think you'd be back 10 seconds later. Oh, well, we were lying. You were like Superman in the revolving door. And I came back with just. They're cute, but I couldn't see. But they were cute. Yeah. So that's all that counts. Thanks again, Katis. Well, there goes that sponsorship. Thanks, Katis.
Well, you know. Actually, I don't think Caddis ever sponsored us. They did once. I don't know. For like a hot second. Maybe we didn't sell enough glasses, but they're great. Listen. I could use a pair of Caddis. My eyesight's going bad when I start reading things. So I have to. I'm getting into the habit these days of putting glasses on when I'm reading. Right. And I'm at a 1.25. Oh, you're going up.
Here's the fun news. What happened on the live, the reason we did it was not only to find you guys out there, talk to you, but you gave us ideas to talk about subjects. Which we really appreciate. Which that's, what a great reason to do it also. Someone brought up ghosts, aliens. Icky lists. Icky and pet peeves. I put those in the same category. There was a fifth.
You knew it. Well, you just took all, I was about to brag with my memory and you just took most of them and now you've left me. Well, there's one more that I can't remember and you claimed you would. So that's the test. I know, but I think if I started out with the other ones. Say it out loud. Have we had an encounter with a ghost? Yes. What is, what are your, what's your take on aliens? Yes. What's the last? Jesus. Ix, pet peeves. Ix and pet peeves.
I think that was it, Kate. No, there was one more. Oh, shit. But that was a solid list. That was a solid list. It is. And it's different. We've never talked about ghosts. Never. I've had one encounter with a ghost. Great. Let's go. Have you? Well, tell your story. I mean, my answer is no. That's why I was like, you better go. I was excited. Well, just continue. Go ahead. What's your ghost story, Kate?
I was a little kid and I had woken up in the middle of the night and I used to sleep with my door open when I was a kid because I was scared of the dark and there was a nightlight in the hallway. Right outside my bedroom. And I woke up and I looked into the doorway that was being lit by that nightlight. And I'm telling you, I thought about it the other day, actually. Shit you not, there was a full figured.
When you say in your doorway, did it creak it open? No, no, no. I said I slept with my door open because I was afraid of the dark when I was little. Okay, I was picturing a halfway cracked door. I apologize. The door was open. I happened to wake up and there was a... fully full human shaped figure in the door. And I knew it wasn't my mom or my dad because I looked down at its feet and they didn't have any.
First, I remember staring at it. Didn't have like, it wasn't a human form. It wasn't a solid mass of a human. It was like a mush, like a mushy. It was just an apparition. It was something. But I remember I stared at it and I didn't know if I believed what I was saying. And then I closed my eyes and I opened them up again and it was gone. Okay. So was it floating? It was an apparition. Sure, it was floating.
Well, not in that cartoonish kind of way, but it was just hovering in the doorway. And was it wiggling? Did it have like a movement? I don't remember. No, it wasn't moving. Or an energy? A pulsing? It had a... protective older energy. So it was a good ghost. It wasn't a mean ghost. I didn't get a negative evil feeling. But you weren't scared?
It happened so quickly and unexpectedly. I don't think I had time to react emotionally to it. Did you remember when you woke up the next morning? Did you go right back to bed? Like, what was the aftermath? Did you go get your parents? Well, obviously it stuck with me because I'm... Right. That's what I mean. Did it cut like later that week? Were you like, oh my God. I can't remember. I was so little when it happened. I was maybe...
Between the ages of seven and 10, maybe 11. I was a little kid. Okay. So is that it? Your whole life? That's it. That's it. That one time. That one time. Okay. So same here. Oh, you said it never happened. No, same here as in. The later part. I didn't, I haven't seen one. Oh, like I had not not only did I not have it once, I haven't had it since.
Now have you, I have not seen a ghost. That's a really, that would be a really confusing post. If you, if you put it on social media. Okay. Listen, it's like an SAT question. I don't want to pull it like. I don't want to ask it to come. But I have been a little bummed out that I haven't had one of these. Interesting. I'm surprised you haven't, actually. I seem like the person that would be visited, right? They say that people that are very sensitive.
Or in tune with something? Tell me if I'm wrong. Well, is there a wrong? I don't think there's a right or wrong. That there's a certain energy field, especially if you're very sensitive to your surroundings and to people that you invite that in more. It's more present. Right. I seem like a perfect candidate for a ghost visit.
Like on paper, this is the girl to go to. You'd think they would make themselves right at home with you. Right. Like, oh, she's cozy. Oh, let's go again. Even multi-visits. Let's go visit Leisha. Yeah. What's she doing this weekend? I wonder what she's doing. It's been a minute. It's hot out. Maybe I can use her pool. Not one.
Nothing. I've never felt a tickle. What about your sister? I haven't asked my sister if she's. I'm assuming no. Your mom? My mom never saw one. My dad for sure would be like. hilarious. No, maybe it wasn't really like a subject that was brought up a lot either in my family. Right. This wasn't a conversation starter in mine either, but since someone asked about the ghost. What about your parents? What about them? Have they, did they? I have no idea.
See, that's what I mean. It's like, I almost feel like if you're brought up in a family that's like. Maybe my mom. I feel like your mom would have seen one. I feel like my mom would have. My dad, I don't think. Bill. would pay much attention to that i also remember after my my father died the night after he died the first dream i had was about a wolf That's cool. Yeah. And when I woke up, I looked up the meaning and it meant protection.
It meant that something from another realm was protecting you. That's really beautiful. I never forgot that. Also, you just said that. The doorway ghost felt like a protector. So that's good. You've got like guardian angels. And have you ever had readings done? Yes. And I don't mean tarot readings. I mean like people, people that, I mean maybe tarot readings actually. I haven't had anyone talk to the other side. I've had some, anytime I've had that.
Done. I've always been told there's someone on my shoulder looking out for me. Like I have a protector and it was a hermit. It was an old man. And it was the hermit card. I remember actually it was tarot because they pulled the hermit card one time. Yeah. True story. You have a hermit. Which makes sense. Guardian? It does? Like an old man. Why does this make sense? Because I feel a bit hermit-like. I thought, oh, I can relate. I'm a bit of a hermit myself. I get it.
You mean like a stay-at-home permit? Yeah, I guess, or someone who doesn't like being around a lot of people. Yeah, I've been told that more than once, so I have to take it as true. Kate, this is so weird. I want to get you little tchotchkes now. Do I need to get you a garden gnome? A garden gnome? Why the fuck do I want a gnome? Yeah, because it looks like a hermit. They look like trolls. That's the same thing. I don't want to troll in my house. What do you think a hermit looks like?
It depends on the illustration of the said hermit. Are you picturing like with a kit, like the walking stick? It could look like fucking Gandalf from Lord of the Rings. Is that what you're picturing? I'm not thinking of a Smurf. with a long beard hanging out on my lawn. It for sure has a long beard, no matter what it is, what size.
I don't want to guard a gnome. Save your money. I'm tempted. Alicia, we're in a double strike. I want you to be responsible. Save your money. Pardon me that doesn't want to listen. You brought it up. Ceramic garden gnome. And you know, that makes sense. Yeah, like a grumpy old hermit man. If everyone can see Kate right now, she's holding it on her right shoulder like it sits there on her shoulder. Yeah. And she's like, that makes sense. Yeah. A grumpy old man? Totally makes sense.
This is really, this is fun to know. And also weird that it seems so right to you. I don't know if it seems right. What do you think mine would look like? What, your garden gnome? I don't know. I might go shopping. Don't get me one. Listen. Do not. You know it's got right to the trash. Well. I don't.
You don't want a garden gnome hanging by this beautiful elm tree? I don't. No? But I do want to get you one. Please don't. When I move, I don't want that to be my housewarming present. I don't want a housewarming present and I don't want a garden gnome. Although if you did get me one, it would be a great story, but I don't want a garden. Don't ruin my pretty backyard. You might get one and I might put it in your, you might not see it for a while.
It might be protecting your yard for a good two years before you find it. Okay. Well, let's see if you remember. We're going to take a break. We'll be back in a minute. Well, you know I love food, but left to my own devices, I will survive on a rice cracker with almond butter. I really will. But that's why Marley's Spoon is a lifesaver. This podcast is sponsored by Marley's Spoon. And I'm genuinely excited about this because it's helping me fast track my way to eating well without the stress.
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I'll never forget this. When I was helping care for your ailing body as you were recovering from neck surgery, you couldn't swallow pills, so I had to crush them in that thing and sprinkle them on your applesauce. Thank you. By the way, thank you. You're welcome. It's not about that. But I always laugh at that. No, it's always something I would like to just keep thanking you for. Alicia can't swallow pills. I don't like it.
I mean, I can do it, but it gags me out. Okay. So go ahead. So you got the drip. No, I didn't get a drip. I got a shot. That's right. You got the shot. That's right. And I've talked about this on Instagram live. About 20 minutes ago. Yeah. But I do think it helped me today. They make you feel great.
And then the other thing that was clear. And she said, so I was learning how to do it myself, which I'm, by the way, I'm never going to do. I'm going to drive there every week. That's wild that she said you could do it yourself. She's like, I can send you home with a pack of like for a month's supply.
People do give themselves shots. If you have diabetes, you have to give yourself insulin. And I'm fascinated that people can do that. But the insulin needle is, I think, smaller. The one you said she gave you was long. It was full size. But it had all the red liquid, which I think was the vitamins. But then there was a clear part. And she said, that's the word I can't remember.
The helps with memory. So it hasn't apparently soaked in yet, but it's thicker. And she was like, if that's at the end, you have to really push. And that's where I was like, this is, I'm not doing this.
She had to push really hard to get it through the needle. Are you on a cycle where you're doing this? Well, I just, it was my first time today. I know, but now that you said she'd give you a packet. So every week are you doing a cycle where for six weeks you're going to get this shot? Yeah. And then I might, she might.
Give me one to take to Italy if I can keep it cold. And who's going to administer the shot? Either me or Kim. Lucky Kim. Where is her office now? It's right here now. No. Yes. It is? I was like hugging her. She's over here. It took me seven, eight minutes. When did, why have you not shared the news with me? Because I haven't been there. It was my first time and I saw the address and I was like, what?
I'm calling the doctor. No, it's huge. I didn't realize she's on this side of the line. Yeah. It's a big change. Anyway. Yeah. I'm going to go for a while. I might as well. I'm going to start going to her if she's seven or eight minutes away. Yeah.
Everyone's moving over here. We can go get our drips again together. Yep. We used to do that. Let's go do it. We were laughing because, you know, drips are very popular now. Yeah. They're at every like. Everywhere. Med spa, you know. Every gas station across America. She. You and I were going to get those 20 years ago from her. And we were laughing about it today. She also said a lot of people give very weak ones.
Sure. Like their formulas aren't really saturated. She wants to see if we want to refill. Are you going to do it? Oh, I didn't want to be rude, but if you're going to have one, I'll have one. Oh, then I'll have one. I'll have what Leisha's having. She's the best. I mean, does it get better? She's hot. Yep. Smart. Grounded. The most grounded down-to-earth person. Responsible, loyal, mature. A full adult. We both lucked out, I have to say. For all the... Bullshit. Well...
But you have to go through. No, I've had great girlfriends. I've had some great people as well, actually. I can't sit there and say it was all a nightmare. I've had wonderful relationships. Yes, I've had some great ones. I've had some not so great ones. Yeah, and then we've had some that we don't.
care to remember no but but all that to say it led us to making some two of the smartest decisions yeah no we really and everyone loves each other which is also thank god imagine faking it for this long But yeah, back to the doctor and the drips. We did this before it was a thing. And I do believe that people weaken them because that's how you make more money and you get people coming back more and more often.
What I'm happy about is that everyone that I always, when I moved, I thought, oh my God, I have to travel so far away now if I want to go back there. I don't have to because everyone's waking up saying, oh, this is the cool side of town to be on. Oh, Anna and I say this. Yeah.
At least once a day to each other. Okay. What was our other subject? Aliens. Okay. Aliens. Oh, can I just say about ghosts real quick before we move on to aliens, which is going to be very similar in thought. I believe in all of it. So I just want to say, do believe in ghosts. you know, I wouldn't hate a visit. I just, I would like a nice one like you had. That would be great. My God, there's something behind your head that.
sticking out and it looks like, like you have an elf ear, but it's not, it's the background and it's really, you look like a cute elf. You'd go great with your own nose. Oh my God. Maybe I could be in a... The new Lord of the Rings picture. Yeah, there you go. Okay, so aliens, what's your take? I know that you and I do share something in common with aliens. I'm a full-on believer of aliens. Okay, but can I say what we share in common? Yes. We can't stand...
when we're at a party or around a table and everyone starts talking about aliens. That and space. You and I both leave. And space. Unless you're Neil deGrasse Tyson, I don't want to hear about it. Right. I'm not interested. It's like when someone says to you, oh my God, I had the craziest dream. And then without you asking, they decide to tell you the dream as if I care. I don't care. And I know you don't either.
Unless I'm in it and there's like a cameo of some sort that's interesting. And then you showed up and you had 50 tennis shoes on your head. Even then, I don't care. Okay, but at least then it's... Somewhat interesting. Not in a narcissistic way, just in a like.
It's drawing me in. How could you not think that there was something other than us in this gigantic- I mean, you'd have to be very close-minded. Yeah, 100%. And I do believe they will take over this planet one day. Do you think they're here already? Probably. Well, that's not a real answer. You got to be a guesser now. I honestly, I didn't watch the hearings of the UFO sightings. I couldn't tell you. There's apparently where I am. Are we the people around the table? That's okay.
No, because we're just basing it. We're not getting deep into it. We're not trying to act like we really know. I think that's where that lies, where you're like, okay, but you're not. I don't work at NASA. I'm not trying to be. I'm just saying, I know where I am out in the desert. There's a lot of that sort of energy. Yes. Because it's a vortex. And I guess. certain things from other planets are drawn to that level of energy.
Have I seen one before? I have no idea. I have no idea. There was one time many, many years ago where I was on. a hallucinogenic, a friend of mine. And we were lying on the ground. We were looking up at the stars. I mean, this is like over 10 years ago. Okay. We're looking up at the stars and it's pitch.
And suddenly this thing, the mushroom, the big mushroom weekend. And something kind of like came over our heads. And I, we, till this day, we could not figure out whether it was something from the Marine base that wasn't far away or for, it was a, what do you mean came over your head?
Like a shooting star? No, it wasn't a shooting star. It was like a mass with lights on it came over our heads and it was very, very quiet. It didn't make a sound. I don't know about this story. I was also... tripping on said vegetable so i don't know What's real and what's not. But that's my memory. Okay. And that's all I have for aliens. Here's a more controversial one. Bigfoot. I don't think Bigfoot is real. Shame on me.
Tell me otherwise. Why? Why should I believe in Bigfoot? I just want to believe in Bigfoot. Okay. I'm a believer because I choose to be because I like to believe there's a Bigfoot out there. Like Harry and the Hendersons? One of the funniest movies I've ever seen. You could put it on right now and I'll have tears coming out of my eyes. It's the best movie. Don't you like where I'm going to actually. All right.
I don't know the answer. I'm sorry. Am I dumb for it? Maybe. Where is Bigfoot located? In the woods. No, where? Apparently, it depends on what Sasquatch expert you speak to. Oh, I thought it was one place. No, there's every country, like Iceland has a name for one. South America has a name for it. We call it a Sasquatch. They call me Yeti in another. Oh, that's why Yeti has the little emblem. Let's ask Kim. Hey, Kim. Bigfoot. Do you know where Bigfoot's located? Do you believe in a Bigfoot?
Yeah, they're everywhere. Like, apparently. Oh, I thought it was just one. Thank you. I have a question, though. Do you believe or no? Are you a believer or no? Do you believe in Bigfoot? See? Thank you, Kim. I feel less alone. Scary shit out there. You got two different cocktails. What are we drinking tonight? Yes, a G&T.
Hello, my honey. Best drink ever. Thank you so much. Thank you, Kim. Hi. Yes. Yes, Melissa. Hi. I did want to say Yeti is different from Bigfoot. Yeti is the same as the Bonneville Snow. But the abominable snowman is considered Bigfoot. But they're separate. But that's because one's in the snow and the other one's in the forest. Exactly. And their fur... And their fur reflects the environment they're in. Is it the same as this swamp thing? And that's just the water version? Swamp is like...
Different. Ask Jennifer. She was on Swamp Thing. That's true. But she, but it seems, I'm sorry, but it seems like the same shape of a creature. It is. It is. Looking. My cousin lives in. in the northwest, up in Oregon, and he's a big fisherman, and he really goes to isolated areas to fish in really dense, dense forest. He's a rational man. He's logical. He has his feet on the ground and he swears.
What does that mean? He encountered something that was not an animal and he swears by it. When I think of an encounter, I think like something like you had like an experience with the thing. Well, they didn't like have. Or you just saw it. He saw something and he swears by it. He wouldn't lie. So I guess it's, again, do you believe or not? Well, on the show we were just on that got canceled that I can't say the name of, but we all know what it is.
There was a Halloween episode and... There was a Sasquatch in it? Mm-hmm. And what's sad is... The guy, the stunt guy put the entire costume on and it was incredible. And it looked just like this creature. But in the episode, we were just. It went by the window so quickly. You were reacting to it. But you didn't get to see how funny it was. Did they film the Sasquatch? Yes. But he just, you know, crossed the window so quickly.
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I don't know. I guess an ick could be a little more. Wait, Melissa's shaking your head saying, no, they are not the same. An ick could be a little more like, bleh. What do you think? Yeah, an ick is more like something that kind of grosses you out, but a pet peeve is just an annoyance. Got it. I know. All right. X, go ahead. I have a lot of X. Me too. I can't stand when someone eats with their mouth open. It really grosses me out. Like pull it together.
Is that your number one? It's up there. Also talking with your mouth full. Same thing. I don't want to see what's in there. I'm good. Like get it done. Swallow. And then talk to me. Right. We're not in that big of a hurry. Like nose things can gross me out. Nose things? Like snot related nose things. Like when people really clear out.
Like that. Just all that. That kind of like, it's that like really personal stuff that people think is okay to just. So when Kim has a cold, is she on her own? No, no, no. First of all, there's nothing gross about Kim. Like even she, no, it's, I guess it's more a stranger. That makes sense. Sure. If somebody's sick, like, no, I'm not like insane. Like the sound of someone blowing their nose is. Yeah. It's just like.
If there's a guy on a subway, like really just dealing with this stuff. That's terrible. Or an airplane. Even worse. I don't like hair on the floor. Like human hair? Human hair on the floor in a bathroom. Oh, yeah. I cannot stand hair on a bathroom floor or in a shower. There's a... It's something that gags me out.
Raising your hand once again. Yes. And it is more like it's more like in if this is like Internet thing now. And so it is as more like something that kind of just like turns you off from something else. So not necessarily. hair on the floor it would have to be like someone does something to you that gives you that
And it doesn't necessarily have to be like overtly discussing. It just kind of just turns you off from it. Oh, okay. Okay. What do you mean turns you off? It's a personality trait that drives you nuts. Or even like... Somebody just giggles the wrong way at a joke like that. This kind of changes everything. It takes a turn. Yeah. But I think that's what we were being asked.
Okay. I guess it's a quirk, right, Melissa? It's just a quirk. It could be like just anything. Like you don't like people that wear like... a certain type of like sandal, like that gives you the ick. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Okay. I'm an ick. Yes. I don't like when women wear. heels that seem too small so their toes go past the end, that's a major ick for me. It's, I have a toe thing. Like I have to look away. I see it and I have to quickly look away like I didn't see it.
I can't look back. I have a lot of these, but now I'm drawing a blank. I also don't like when people talk about themselves so much they forget to ask questions. Sure. It's a huge dick for me. Don't be so self-absorbed. Also, you're not that interesting. No one is. No, but... Be aware that you're not even opening up the question arena. It's just all about you. That's such an ick for me. Loud talkers.
Especially in public. The thought of someone being able to hear a private conversation I'm having is... Someone just has this loud, booming voice. Voices are a big thing for me. Haven't we talked about this with the man, that certain man voice? I've heard women have that voice. Women have that voice too. Every human out there, there's just people out there with a certain kind of voice that hits a certain frequency that booms.
that it drives me insane. And no matter how low you decide to bring your voice down to get them to pick up the hint that maybe this isn't. they're so beyond clueless. They just keep speaking on that level. Oh my God. Drives me insane. I have another one. If somebody is wearing an UGG. Things are caving in. And it goes off the side like it's it's deconstructed and their foot is off the like.
part of the surf, the soul and it's going off and they don't, and they're just wearing them like everything's normal. Yeah. It makes you want to throw. It's so gross to me. It grosses me out. Again, I can't look. How do you not know your whole foot's off to this? It's not on top of the soul. And it can roll either to the outside or inside. It doesn't matter. It's just that I think it's more that the person is so unaware of that.
It grosses me out. An ick for me? Toxic positivity is an ick for me. Is that me? No. Not necessarily, but I can't. I find that to be such a flaw. Okay, describe it more just so I can make sure I'm not doing that. Well, life isn't perfect and your world isn't always... At a peak, sometimes we hit valleys. That's how we enjoy the peaks after we've been in the valley, right? We all have these moments to certain degrees of severity, and you could be going through something.
And there are certain people who just... like to spin it into a positive like but you know it's not so bad blah blah blah or you shouldn't think like that and I don't believe anyone should tell the other person what they should be feeling and also I don't believe another person should ever say, oh, well, it's not that bad. It's because it's like, how would you know? You're not experiencing it. And if you have, you're still not. me or the individual who's feeling that in the moment. I just...
I feel like there's a degree of self-denial and saying, I don't want to take on energy. And it's not about that necessarily. It's just like being an ear and just listening, having a level of empathy. Not having to belabor it constantly, but having a level of empathy as opposed to just sort of shutting it down with toxic positivity. Got it. Okay. I just don't find toxic positivity very useful. Yeah, no, you're not. No, it's not helpful because nobody, it's not based in reality. No.
It's at all like you're allowed to feel shitty. Yeah. And we all do. You're allowed to feel like shit. You just are. And I promise you'll come out of it. Can't tell you when, but you will. But don't, don't, don't try to sugarcoat my pain. Right. No, don't sugarcoat my pain is such a great way to put it. And people who love to wear flip flops or sandals in the city. I don't fucking get it. Do you not look at the bottom of your feet? They're pitch black.
I never understood that. Even here in LA, any city, I see it in LA. We all wear flip flops around here. I wear a flip flop in my, I wear my, my clouds in the house or I'll wear my flip flop from my house over here, but I'm not going to go wear my clouds to run errands throughout the day. especially with bare feet. And if you notice in the summertime, next time you see somebody in flip flops, look at their feet, get behind them and watch them walk because the second their foot.
bends at the toe. It's black. It's fucking black. Okay. Hats bothered me for a while. Those ick me out, but it's been called out. The big dumb hats. Big dumb hats. I was so thankful for that because it was... It was everywhere. And I felt like nobody was going to put a stop to it. No, they were just going to get bigger. We were going to look like the Three Amigos at some point. The big dumb hat, I feel like it still exists.
Really? Yeah. Okay. I think it helped. That skit helped a lot. It did, but not to the point where it got... exiled completely. Is that just a California thing? No. It's everywhere? It's everywhere. Okay. Because I like hats. I mean, everyone, you know, we can all wear a hat. I don't have anything against hats. It's just... hats became you know like an identity thing They became too trendy. It was like, I have a lot of hats. Well, you know what it was? The hats became the outfit.
That's what it was, at least from my eyes. I would see someone and I'd think, okay, the hat is their outfit. Like that's their. Like a jumpsuit and a hat. No, just the hat itself is the thing. Because that's all you're going to fucking notice because it's so big. And then they get kind of, then they were getting a bit cartoonish because then they were having rounded tops. It was just. Yeah, it was a lot. I have a low, there's a low energy ick for me.
You don't like quiet talkers? No, it's a low energy. I need to be met with energy sometimes. Don't under energize whatever level we're at. Like if everybody's here, don't come in like 50 below. But you don't like people where they talk so low and you go, huh? No, it's not a volume thing. Really? I recall being in a, I recall Someone in my life once who had that energy field and you sat there and looked at dying inside. And what you would say is what? I couldn't hear this person.
But that person I feel is, was, see, that's different. That's someone who like manipulates the environment. Exactly. And I think people can do it to turn and like, they can turn a whole party. I was with, I was. in a major relationship with someone who could taking an entire party down with their energy. And I couldn't believe how it would happen. I mean, like a party of 30 people would be like, I was with someone similar. And this is the power of one person. Yeah.
And everyone followed suit. And it was just sort of like, oh, I guess. And then you feel responsible, like it's your child that was misbehaving at the party. Yeah. And then they have a tantrum once you get out of the party and it's your fault. This person's dark. This person's in a mood. And all your friends, once you leave, are asking each other.
When is she going to break up with her? Probably. But it's like, what was that? What happened? What was going on? You know, they're all confused. No, it always starts with, is she okay? Who, me? No, it's just like that's always the people left at the party after that person leaves. It's usually somewhat dramatic and passive aggressive. But how does everyone in the room give that person that much power also? I don't know. It's almost like a teacher was mad at a classroom.
Yeah I don't know. It was pretty shocking. I don't know. I wish I could go back in time. That would be so much fun. Wouldn't you love to travel, time travel and watch certain scenarios, like moments in your life that you live through? Do you just want to witness it or do you want to witness? I just want to be like on the side. I'm going to be like.
You want to have the ghost of Christmas past come take you back to that. Yes, but I want to be able to pick my list. Yeah. And there are certain moments that I'd love to revisit and just watch it play out. Like watch how I was reacting, but then also watch like the person. See what triggered that in the first place? Because, you know, it was so dumb and small. Yeah. Oh, what triggered it? Sure. It's probably non-existent. It's their own insecurity and paranoia.
And then the aftermath, the before, the during, and the after. That would be fascinating. Do you think when we're dead we get to do that? I have no idea. Like do a rewatch? I have no idea. I guess we'll have, no, we'll just be, we'll be too busy being ghosts and visiting people or not in my case. Wow. Our egg list. I feel like I could go on for hours. I'm on the tip of the iceberg with this. If I had Ana here, they would come out in rapid fire. Yeah.
rapid fire. Well, there was something else we were supposed to discuss. Aliens, ghosts, icks, pet peeves. Pet peeves are different. No, but similar. No. Melissa just gave the difference. Melissa, can you repeat? That definition or the difference again? The pet peeve is more of an annoyance.
So that's like hair on the floor. That's your hair on the floor. Yes. By the way, if I ever. Even if it's my hair, by the way. No, I know. I clean up my hair. If I brush my hair and hair goes down to the drain. I never leave the shower without taking hair with me. I have a dust buster that I keep very close to the bathroom just to vacuum up the floor. Yeah, you have a... I don't like hair in the sink. No, gross.
This almost feels like things you learn when you're very young. Like you have to clean that stuff up. I don't like toothpaste globs being left in the sink. Well, you know who did the funniest? bit about this was Sandra Bernhard. When? Her mom, a million years ago, her mom Her mom would call them dinner mints. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. I remember listening to Dirk comedy special.
Yeah. You can't leave dinner mints in the sink. I really appreciate the listeners tossing out ideas. I think this should be a routine. Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. So we're going to do another one next week. We appreciate the inspo. We can do more lives too. We don't have to wait like once a week. We should be more entertaining. But you know what? Like you said, pat on the back. Good for us.
I think the beauty of these lives is that they don't have to be so produced. And so they're just a moment in time that people get to be a part of or they don't. And that's kind of it. There's really no more than that. If you wanted to like overly produce one, I'd start to lose interest because then it feels like a job. Nobody wants to do that around here. It's just kind of fun being like, let's do a live. All right, everybody. Till next week. Till next week. Till next week. Positive.
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