Ep 242 - What comes next for the India-Pakistan relationship?
May 01, 2025•46 min
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Summary
Uzair Yunus and Dr. Hassan Abbas delve into the dangerous standoff between India and Pakistan after a recent terror attack in Kashmir, discussing the deteriorating bilateral relations, the role of various militant groups, and the impact of nationalistic media narratives. They examine the allegations and lack of evidence from both sides, the strategic calculations including nuclear options, and the nuanced role of the United States. The conversation concludes with a strong call for both nations to engage in self-reflection and pursue negotiation, emphasizing the potential for peace through joint investigations and third-party mediation to break the recurring cycle of conflict.Episode description
Uzair talks to Dr. Hassan Abbas about the ongoing standoff between India and Pakistan following the recent terror attack in Kashmir. We talked about what options are on the table for both sides, the role of the United States, and why engagement and negotiations are the only path forward for both countries.
Dr. Hassan Abbas is Distinguished Professor of International Relations at the Near East South Asia Strategic Studies Centre (NESA), National Defense University in Washington DC. He serves as a senior advisor at Project on Shi’ism and Global Affairs at Harvard University’s Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, and his current research work focuses on building narratives for countering political and religious extremism & rule of law reforms in developing states.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:30 Backdrop of the terror attack
14:20 Allegations and evidence
18:50 Narratives and media
25:10 Commitment traps
29:40 US response so far
36:30 Misreading the other side
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