Hey, Julian &. Cesc here and welcome to another exciting episode of Padel Smash Academy. And today we're so excited to have, uh, Tom Ferguson, uh, from the Padel School from the uk. Uh, he's at the, here at the Reserve Somia playing the, the one tournament, the men's side. So we're super excited to have you here. Tom, welcome. Thank you very much for being here. It's a pleasure. Yeah. So how is, uh, how long have you been here in, in, uh, Florida, Miami? Only about three weeks. Three weeks.
Yeah. So I've left the UK winter to come here in beautiful weather. Wow. And, uh, yeah, loving, loving every minute us. So you've been here before, right? Uh, I've been to the US before and I've been to Florida before, but not up in, in Boynton before I came to Miami. So I've gone a bit further up and, uh, yeah, it's, it's a bit of a different. Different environment out there. So how was, well, let's talk a little bit about, I guess, about, um, the Padel School.
So let, let, let's talk about that, how you got involved with your brother and then from there, how you got here in, in, in Florida. Well, yeah. Long, long story. It's a long story. Yeah. Um, well, so, I mean, the Padel School started, I say about 10 years ago with my, with my brother actually. So he started it in Dubai when Padel would first come to Dubai. So. I mean, his story is kind of an amazing story.
He started out actually coaching tennis before and then discovered Padel out there, played a tournament. Uh, he then, um, played a tournament at the, uh, Royal Family's court there in, in Dubai. Um, and then they asked him to be the rackets manager. This was many, many years ago now, over a decade ago. Um, and he said he would do it, but only if he was gonna go to Spain and train with the best coaches and the best players out there.
Um, fast forward, I got involved in the business about four years ago, um, and I kind of did the same, the same process. I played pro tennis before, um, and I discovered Padel started to play more, and then I went all in, and then I went to Spain, went to Madrid, the academy's there. Working with the coaches, I kind of followed a similar path that. That he had, um, and, and you the right path actually, you know, because you wanna learn from the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
From like the best coaches there, the best academies. I was lucky enough to train with like top 50, like even like top 20 players there like regularly. So I was going back and forth to Madrid a lot. Um, and yeah, got my level up, which is difficult in the uk. It's, it's hard if you just stay in the uk. There aren't the players, there aren't the coaches. So. Really, for me, that was the best path to go and do that, to go back and forth from Spain and, um, and yeah, kind of went, went from there.
So let's talk about the Padel School. I mean, most people I know it, I mean, I've, I've watched it many times, your brother and I when you came on it. But for the viewers, if they're not aware of it, what is it and what type of platform is it? Um, and so forth. Yeah. So, um, well, the Padel School is one of the leading education platforms in Padel in English. So, uh, last year we had around a hundred million views of our content, of our training content across all our social media platforms.
Uh, we got half a million followers online and so. What started as, um, my brother many years ago, putting up content online and, and being excited that there were 20 views from across the world and now sounds like us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And now to have like a hundred million views and, you know, uh.
And for so many players and coaches to be watching it around the world, we feel blessed really to have that many followers and, and to meet people, like meeting people here saying that they follow the content, you know, they love, they love all the stuff we're doing. Is, is great. No, there's, there's free content, but there's, is there also paid, uh, uh, content as well as a subscription. Okay. And explain, explain that a little bit.
Yeah, so we have all of our social media content and I guess we see our, our paid or our subscription business as for. For those players that really want to take their Padel to the next level. So our co our social content is free tips, and they might be applicable to you. They, they might not. But on our platform online, the Padel school.com. You can actually get personalized coaching for you. So we have courses to take you from beginner all the way to advanced, and it has a roadmap for you.
So it takes you through great, like everything. And then you also can send in videos, we can give you feedback on your shots. So we kind of see it as a bit of a. Personalized coaching for, for, for the player. And what's the cost of that? And is that a SaaS type of business? Like, so what's the monthly cost of that? So the monthly is, uh, I dunno if it to do it in Bucks, but it's probably about 20, 25 bucks a month. Okay. Um, so that's, that's the kind of very affordable, yeah.
Yeah. I mean that, that's kind of the goal with the Padel School as you wanted it to be accessible. We wanted everyone to be able to Right. To get the best coaching around. And so yeah, it's, it's a membership platform. There's a community on there that. Uh, players can join and, and chat with other players and ask players other, other players questions and, and kind of connect. I think there's a need for that down here in USA. ' cause you know, it's very expensive for coaching coaches.
I mean, here's like one 50, $200 and it's not for everyone, you know? Yeah. Some. But I see a lot of great players that I think could be so much better if they just got some lessons. Yeah. But maybe they just can't afford it and something like this is a great alternative. Yeah. I mean, we find that, um, players that. Both use online and in person lessons.
It improve the most because the, the online helps them either practice by themselves with a ball machine, with a practice partner, but also just understanding the theory of what they're trying to do. And seeing themselves on video for us is a huge thing. So players send in their matches, sending their points, and we give them. So how does that work? Yeah, I mean, uh, you, you, they have to record themselves. Uh, is it on your platform or just them recording it?
And then will they upload it to your platform? How does that work? Yeah, exactly. So players either will have someone hold a camera, so they might say, Hey, can you take a video of my band deck? I'm gonna send it in. So on, on the phone. Or you can also have the cameras at the back of the court. You can put on a match, you know, like mm-hmm. Like these cameras here at the club? Yeah. They can record a match. Maybe they record some little, like clips from it.
They can send it in and we can give them, give them feedback. Wow. So it's cool. That's great. What's a turnaround on that? Like when summary of Yeah, I mean, it, it depends if, how, how quick Sandy and I are in there, but, um, yeah. Yeah. So you guys are sitting there, man, you Wow. Get a lot of that go. We'll go in and, and we'll give people feedback on that, on the shots. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. We're busy. Keeps us busy. Yeah. That's super exciting, man.
And, and, uh, compared to the views to the membership, how many members you have? Uh, and how's that process? Yeah. So in terms of like viewership, we have yeah, like, say half a million followers, a hundred million views last year, and I think we, we hit a thousand members online, uh, end of last year. So that was, yeah, it was, it was awesome. It was like that was a paid subscribers, right? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. So, um, oh, it, I mean.
For us, it's more about building that community because the, the more people we can have in that community, just the more, the more energy there is, the more people are helping each other. The, the more we can can build that, then better. So when did you join or start participating with Sandy? 'cause there was a time that, you know. It was just Sandy and all of a sudden, Hey, there's another guy there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks like Sandy too.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, can't realize he's gonna make it to the top 10, the on end because he's like, I, we need help. We need help. Please, please come. Yeah. That what it was. Are you an older brother or younger brother? Younger. Okay. Yeah, I get asked that a lot. I'm, I'm not sure if that's sandy looking young or, or me looking old.
Um. No, so, well, I mean, my background is in, um, professional, professional tennis, and so I went through pro tennis and then went into pro like coaching, like players, like recreational tennis players, but also pro players. And so, um, Sandy's always, I, I was playing Padel when Sandy Discover Padel, but yeah, because I was in the UK and then I was in Amsterdam, the sport hadn't really caught on on yet. So I was always playing, I was always interested.
I loved the sport, but there just wasn't the, the course for me to play. This was like several years ago. Um, and then the sport grew in Amsterdam and I was able to play more and more. I. Uh, it started to grow in the UK as well, so I got to a point where I was just like, I went all in on, on Padel and decided I, that's it, that's it. I'm gonna not play tennis anymore. Go go to Spain. Did you play for a job with the Padel school or, yeah. How was that? Job interview?
Yeah, the job interview was tough. Yeah. No, I mean, Sandy and I, we've always wanted to work together and so there was, there was a time where Sandy was saying to me, oh, Padel's gonna grow. Padel's gonna grow. You should think about. Getting into it and, um, yeah, I was, I was still in tennis and I was yeah. Diffing my toe in, and then I sort of, there was, there was a time where we just said, all right, let's, let's go all in.
And it was a good decision, you know, I, I, I listened to your podcast on, on the way here, on the car and all that, and I love the chemistry that, that you guys have. Yeah. And how you guys, you know, pink come back and forth on really very interest, interesting questions. Yeah. Sometimes I see you are too short. I want more information, you know? Oh, well, yeah. We appreciate you, you saying that. But I really, I really love, you know, the chemistry that you guys have.
So let's talk a little bit, uh, now that you're in, in the, in the us, how's the Padel scene in the uk? Is it really growing? I mean, tell us a little bit, uh, you know, what's in the other side? Yeah. The, so the uk it's, it's growing and there's a feeling in the UK that that Padel is booming. I think that there's, um. There, there's hype around it, which is, which is great, but I think that the, the kind of, the supply of courts is a bit slow.
It's probably slower than people had anticipated with all of the regulations around building. So I think there's definitely a high demand for, for playing Padel, but almost a low, a low supply of courts, which. For those clubs that have have courts, it's great because they're, they're oversubscribed. Yeah. Particularly indoors in the uk does that bring the prices up or? Exactly. So, so how much is it, uh, an average to play there? For each Each person? Yeah. For one hour and a half.
Uh, for an hour and a half. I mean, it, it depends, like if you're in Central London, it can go anything up to, I, I believe about 120. Like for, for a court? Like, oh, for the whole court? Yeah. Yeah. For, for an hour. Is it hour? An hour and a hour, hour and a half. Uh, well that's probably like an hour. Yeah. I mean, you're looking at probably around 50 50 each for like, like an hour and a half, some, something like that. Okay. So. Um, I mean, but that's expensive, you know, for, for the uk.
Yeah. Um, and that's like London. And then as you go further out, it can, it can kind of drop to probably around 15, 20 each flight hour. Never seen it that low here. No. The lowest, I think is 20 non-prime hour. And it has to be Exactly. The moon has to be, yeah. The stars. Perfect. That's $20. And you see the growth get, get, I mean the growth of the courts, I mean, are people building more courts? Because I mean. Is the, the chicken and the egg. You need more courts to build a sport.
So, uh, you see that growth going there or not? Yeah. The co the courts are growing. I think now, I, I dunno exactly, but I think there's around 400 5500 courts now in the uk and I believe about a year ago there was like three 50. Like there's definitely a, a, a growth coming, but the general feeling amongst players that we speak to clubs is that they would want to build more and, and grow it quicker, but.
Yeah, they're just, they're just limited with, with what's possible with, with the regulations and, and finding spaces that are affordable. So yeah, such a small country, you need. The, the cost of the square meter is very ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. That's the biggest problem. The real estate. Yeah. In this industry. And it's killer. The clubs are, once they found the space, it's very expensive. So they just put courts in and they don't, I mean, for example, the club here is incredible.
Like, uh, the facilities, the bar, I mean, it's, I feel like I'm in heaven head. So do we. Yeah. Day man. Yeah, it's a great one. So, so Tom, um. Explain a little bit how the, the, uh, do you guys have, uh, uh, the UK PET Association. You, you guys have one? Uh, the, yeah. The LT Padel. Yeah. So it's under the Tennis Federation. Okay. Yeah. Explain a little bit because I hear it's a little bit all over the place. You know, the SBAs, it's separated from, from the us um, DA and all that.
How's, how's that structure in the uk? Yeah, so the, the, the Padel Federation is, is under the Tennis Federation. The, uh, LTA? Yeah, the LTA. Okay. LTA Padel. Um, and. I, I guess, lt, the LTA a's job is to, to help facilitate the growth of Padel in the uk.
Now there's lots of private at the moment, there's lots of private businesses growing Padel in the uk so it slightly different to to tennis where a lot of the tennis clubs are committee run and, and have been around for so long that the LTA is very much kind of involved in, in almost every single tennis club in the uk and it's just a different. It's, it's slightly different with Padel.
A lot of these businesses are, are private businesses that are setting up, and so LTA Padel are, are trying to find ways of, of, of working with 'em at the moment. So by the LT A, it's, it's, it's. Is, doesn't have nothing to do with the private clubs, with the commercial aspect. I think they, at, at the moment, I think that they're trying to find, they're, they're trying to find a connection, trying to find how they can support the growth of Padel.
But the way that Padel is growing in the UK is, is private businesses are, are setting up Padel clubs. Okay. But let me thing how the tenants in and what's difference to tenants. Tenants is also private, isn't it? Uh, well, so a lot of, a lot of tennis clubs are committee, like c committee, like run clubs. Yeah. Member owned club, uh, member owned club, but also funded like predominantly by, by Wim, like by Wimbledon. By, by the LTA, like by the funding, by by LTA funding.
I. Like, so they put money on each specific club? Yeah. A lot of the clubs in the UK are, are backed by that as opposed to in, in Padel. It's it's private investment that, uh, coming in. Not the LTA is not willing to put money to make the sport growth or, well, it, yeah.
I mean, at the moment I think they're, they're offering, they're offering some support, but it's, uh, yeah, it's, it's, at the moment, tennis is still such a, a focus in, in the UK and Padel is growing, but it's, it's still, it's still small. So I think they're trying to have as much. Input and influence as they can, but it's, yeah, I mean, the focus is, is tennis. It's, it's the biggest sport here, here in the, in the clubs, depending on where you are.
Some is thriving at tennis and some clubs is, are not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they're having real difficulty, uh, time filling in the, the courts, you know? Yeah. So we're seeing more like pickle, you know, more north, but now starting to see a little bit of Padel. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Do you see, uh, do you see the same problem that we have here? Here we have.
You know, every year we have more and more Padel courts all over the country, but we don't have enough coaches, and that's the key for, for us to make the Padel growth in the United States. Are, are you guys having the same problem or are you having enough coaches for that demand of amount of players that you have? Yeah, I think it's a worldwide, it's a worldwide problem. I think really for, for emerging countries.
I think getting, getting coaches, but, but also I think the, the key is, is quality coaches. Yeah. So because that's, that's the thing and, and I think. That almost is the reason why we created our, our academy is because really now you can call yourself a coach. If you, if you go and do a weekend course, yeah. Spend two days and get a piece of paper. You start on Friday on by, by, by Sunday. You're a, a professional Padel coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I, but I understand it because there's so, there, there's so much demand that clubs need coaches. Yeah. But at the same time, it's, it doesn't necessarily. Make, make a good coach. If you go and do a a two day course, it'll help you. Yeah. But the way, the way that certifications work, and I think this is across many sports, it's not just Padel, but you go and do a a a course, you get the piece of paper, and then that's the end of your Yeah. Your, your coaching.
There, there's no, there's no ongoing support. And so the big part of our academy at the Replay Club in Boynton is that our coach education is, is ongoing throughout the year. So we have a coach at Boynton. We, we've certified him, we've trained him. He's getting ongoing support from us. He's getting the programs, he's getting the drills. He's going through a recertification program every year as, as are the other coaches.
So. It's, it's, it's an ongoing, it's an ongoing coach education, which for, for us, was the biggest frustration when we looked at certifications. Yeah. Because we, we look at that and think, well, that doesn't make a good coach to have a, a two day course. Right. But I think as, as more coaches come out, I think the. There's gonna be the band for better coaches, so they're gonna have to, you know, go and get Yeah. Hannah's players become more aware. Play. Yeah, that's true too.
That, that, that hurts the sport in a certain way. I mean, nowadays, I don't know how it's in the uk, but here it is your core of, of your students. They're beginning intermediate. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's gonna be your core. I don't know how it's in the uk. Yeah, it's the same. Yeah. Very unlikely you're gonna get, you know, this is not a Spain or Argentina or, yeah. Maybe Italy. And, and you guys travel pretty much all over the world.
And I know you guys have been going to actually, I was watching your YouTube, uh, on, on South Africa. Okay. I don't know if you, did you go there or? No, it was only Sandy. Uh, only Sandy and, and nickel. Okay. As well. Yeah. So, so, and we heard, we have some friends here that the rumors, we got the rumors going on give us no, no, that, that, uh, uh, in South Africa, the Padel is, it's crazy. I mean, it's, it's, it's growing like crazy. Is that true?
I mean, you see the emerging countries like Yeah. Padel in South Africa is, is growing massively. Really? Yeah. And the passion for sport there, I, I didn't go but. Sandy always tells me during the trip, he comes back and, and we kind of, we, we, we discuss how, how the energy is from, from the players there.
Yeah. Because, because we go to certain markets and the energy is just incredible about, about Padel, but also, uh, the Padel school, if they, if they're followers, if they're really passionate followers. And South Africa was one of those places where he said that they've not only got a massive passion for, for Padel, but it just, the, the passion for sport there is, yeah. It's just so kind of reflective in Padel and, uh. Yeah, they, they're, they're loving it over out there. Okay. Alright.
So how'd you get to put Beach? How'd get to Yeah, exactly. Give us that story, how that happened, who reached out to you, what, what happened there? And Yes. I mean, they have to, to have a good negotiations for you to get over there, you know? Yeah. So what's the plan, you know?
Yeah. Yeah. So, so Jonathan, um, and, and Alex to Two Brothers, uh, that run, that run replay actually reached out to, to Sandy, I think, or perhaps the Padel school and, and came to us with it, with a project, and they said. This was, they had an empty warehouse at, at this point, and they said, we, we want to create one of the best Padel clubs in the world, and we wanna have the best coaches in the world. And they wanted to make that connection.
And they just said, is there, is there anything we can do to, to, to have the Padel school in involved in this? And Sandy and I had always, we'd always wanted to create, uh, an academy and, and, and certify coaches and, and have that academy model and.
Really, we were just, we were waiting to find the right partner and, and the same, and the partner that had the same vision as us in terms of providing the best coaching because many clubs can, like we talked about with, with coaches, just, just find, find a coach that has done a two day course and put them in, and then that, that's it. But, uh, Jonathan and Alex were, were different.
They, they wanted to create the, one of the best facilities, but they also wanted to differentiate with the coaching and, and they came to us and Sandy visited. An empty warehouse in Boynton. He, he said to me one day, he said, I'm, I'm off to, I think he was in, in Miami anyway, and he said, I'm just. I'm gonna go up to Boynton and, and visit a warehouse. And I was like, why, why are you doing that? And uh, and yeah, that's where it started.
And then here we are today with our, with our academy there. So how you were convinced to leave pretty much everything over there and come over here? I. Oh, have you looked to the weather out? Have you seen the weather? Yeah, I'm from the rainy, rainy, you know, forever. Winter to sunny. Always hot, uh, weather in Florida. Yeah, exactly. As a Brit, always talking about the weather, right?
No, I think, um, I, I think the opportunity here for, for Padel in the US to work at, at Boynton in our first academy in, in the World and in the us which is, which was massive. And, and yeah, we see such a massive future in the US and, uh, yeah, it was, for me, it was a no brainer. So can you explain that, that partnership or collaboration, how is that working? Are you part of that, that, uh, that club or you just have your academy there? How, how, how is that partnership?
Yeah. So, so we have our, our Padel school academy there. Mm-hmm. And so we, we train up the coaches. Um, we, we, we come over for a number of days per year as well to run, to run events. Um, I've actually also, this. Is a bit of a, a unique situation, but I've come over and potentially might be be here full time. That's not something we would do. Oh, I thought you were here for good man. She's put the anchor and, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, spend the whole day on short sleeves in shorts.
I know, I know. Yeah. That's, that's the plan. Yeah, that's the plan. So you're gonna plan to be here for the, so, so what are your responsibilities are supposed to be there a certain amount of time through the whole year to do the academy? Yeah, yeah. There's, there's a, yeah, exactly. There's, there's time dedicated to that. There's. And that's focused on, on these player events. Coach education. Yeah. And, and growing the academy because ultimately we want, we want to grow the academy there.
We wanna put coaching programs in for players of all levels. And yeah, we want to, we wanna be the best in, in, in Florida. And Yes. So how, how, how could potential coaches reach you guys? Or how, how can they make that step? Yeah. Well, I mean, just, just reaching out to us is, is a step on on the Padel School. With the Padel school.
Okay. Yeah. If you go on the Padel School Instagram or, or a page like that, you can contact us If you're in the Florida area or the us it's, it's also a good, a good thing as well. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about the, the club. The club, because not, not everybody knows the club, and I heard through Jonathan that it's unbelievable. What, why don't you run us through, uh, uh, what, what is the cloud? How many courts, uh, what do you have, facility and all that.
So, I mean, and you know, it might sound biased here, but it is, it is one of the nicest clubs that I've ever been to. We're looking forward to going the club. Yeah, you have to been asked times. I can picture, but you, you have to go. And this is also in reserve where, I mean, this is, this is one of the nicest as well, but, um, so yeah, there's, there's 10, 10 indoor courts. Wow. Um, there's, there's a pickle ball, like there's, how high is the ceiling? Uh, I believe the ceiling.
Do you know what, I'm not, I'm not actually sure of the, I mean, it's, it's lower than, it's, it is not like, like here as, is this Okay. Is at least 28 feet, uh, this one? No, no. The one Oh oh, the one in, yeah. I believe it's like, I want to say like 8, 8, 9 meters maybe. Like it is, I mean, it's, it is, it is good. Like 24, 25 feet. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe a bit higher. Maybe a bit higher. But it's, I mean, more than plenty. Yeah. Yeah. There's more than plenty height.
Um, there's a, there's like pickleball as well, I believe. There's like. Seven or eight indoor, indoor pickle there. There's, uh, a gym, so there's like CrossFit, top of the range gym. There's a spa there as well. This place is big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big place. You have, uh, steam and sauna. They've got steam, sauna, coal plunge, really? Area. Yeah. Is this a membership, uh, based, uh, club or, or? Both non-membership and membership? Uh, it's, yeah, there's, there's a me, there's a membership.
Okay. Uh, it's a membership club, but you can also come in and join the programs. If you're a non-member, I believe you can, can pay and play as well, so you don't have to be a member there. But yeah, it's, it's one of those, you have to go, you have to go and visit. You have to go and visit to see if yourself, certainly. And, and how do you see, uh, you, you were there for about three weeks that you said, uh, I'm sure it, it is nothing to do with Miami.
Miami's a different animal compared to the rest of the United States. Mm-hmm. Uh, how do you see the traffic, the Padel traffic going into the cloud so far? Yeah. It, like you say, it's, it's different to Miami. Yeah, because it, I feel like Padel has been established here just a lot longer. And, but I mean, the, the, the traffic, even since, I would say even when I came over to now, there just more and more people coming through the door.
We're putting on loads of, uh, we call 'em like taster events or, or events where people can come and try Padel. They can, they can get on court. There's, um. Yeah, just we were trying to get as many people through the door. A lot of tennis players as well. 'cause that area very much. Yeah. There's, there's loads of tennis clubs. And as a tennis player, I know that when I transitioned it was like, oh, what an amazing sport.
And so we're bringing tennis players through the door, getting them to experience Padel and yeah, we, we we're basically doing our best to bring as many people Yeah. Through the door. Because we know that once you pick up Padel and you try it. Yeah. Most of the time you, you want to come back. So, so far how many coaches do you guys have? So we've got one coach at the moment. Okay. We've got one coach.
And is that enough or, or you need more coaches or what do you Well, I mean, it is including myself, so I, I'm there as well delivering, delivering coaching as well. So I should probably say two coaches at the moment. But yeah, it's, it's one of those things that we will, we, we will see how, how it grows. For now it's, it's fine like us two working there, but I mean, there's, there's so many courts, there's, there's lots of potential there to, to bring on more coaches, I'm sure. Great.
Why don't you tell us a little bit, I mean, I also, uh. Those exciting trips that you guys, this weekend getaways, uh, go with Padel school to the Caribbean Oh yeah. Or to exotic places and all that. Tell us how that works. Uh, well actually, yeah. So yeah, the dream. The dream. The Padel. The Padel, exactly. Yeah. Um, well, so we, we do Padel holidays as well. Okay. And I'm sure actually. We will be offering people to come to, to Florida. I'm sure you half of the uk. I know, I know, I know.
Anywhere where there's good weather, just go, come and play Padel. Uh, so no, we, we do Padel holidays, um, and actually the next one's in 10 Reef in. Wow. Yeah, so that's, I'm gonna be going back for that call it, call it a work trip, but it's work trip. And how's a typical day there? When, how many days? How's a typical day? Yeah, so, uh, we, we do about four days. It's about four days training. We do. Uh, two hours in the morning.
Two hours in the afternoon, and then people can have their time to, to go to the beach. We, we have dinner together. Um, it's, it's, it is really fun. And the best bit we love as coaches is that when you get people for, for four days, that intense training, the, the difference from day one to day four, it's, it's like night and day. It's, uh. It's, it's awesome. I mean, it's such good fun. You're in these luxury locations, five star hotels and that's nice. Yeah. You transform your Padel.
I mean, what, what else do you need? The best excuse ever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. That's it. Yeah, exactly. So, and you guys, one coming up to the Canary Islands in Tene, and then you, how many times a year do you guys do it? Uh, it depends. Normally if we, we either put out a holiday, so we, we, we put out that we're going to Tene and then people join us or we, we say to groups if they wanna come to us. With a group of eight or a group of 12 people, we can create a bespoke trip for them.
So we've got a few locations now, Portugal, uh, Tenerif, we've got places in Spain, we've got, you know, mal places in Maldives and these sorts of places that, that people can go if they want to. So, and how many people do you usually take? It depends on the coaches. If we take two coaches normally. 12 players. Okay. About 12 players. So it is, yeah, it's, it is focus training. There's, there's a good ratio of coach to player. Um, I mean, it's a specific level.
Do you have to be, or it's it's any level. It depends on the trip. So, uh, inter normally like intermediate, high, intermediate level is, is normally what, what we do, but I. Don't make an assumption for I know your rating. Yeah. We'll get you on it. Yeah. Yeah. No, it, it depends on, it depends on the, the group. A group might come to us and say, Hey, we've got 12 beginner players. We'd like a holiday. And so there you go. It, it's perfect. There you go. Yeah. If one drops out and Yeah.
Yeah. There you go. You're in baby. So Tom, our dream is for us to have the. You know, the perfect du you and Sandy Sandy's been a hard, hard player to get here. When is he coming? I mean, he's always somewhere, but never here. Well, I mean, yeah, he's, he's traveling. Well wake, we have the two of you. The pleasure to have the two of you in the art studio. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm ho I'm trying to get him over here as well. He's, he's coming, he's coming for trips.
Um. Who, who knows, who knows what will happen. Yeah. It'd be nice to play too. I know, I know what I'm saying. I know, I know. I to give us a handicap though, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get on court and then we'll come to studio. It. It's a good mix. Yeah. Well, Tom, uh, what a great pleasure to have you here, man. Watching you play. It's, it's, it's a light, uh, too bad that you, you lost against, you know, the twin, the spans. Yeah. But like you said, you know, it's rather to lose, uh.
Two, uh, two Spaniards and not two uh, British guys, you know? No, those guys play well. Yeah. Yeah. They play, they play and we look forward to doing the, the club review there. Yeah. I wanna make sure you're there. You know, we do it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Come down. Good luck, man. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you for your time, man. Appreciate it, man. Cheers. Good, good, good. Excellent man.