Hi, everybody.
Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by the newly bespectacled Weston Hodkowitz. For those wondering, those a new pair of glasses, my friend, how are they working out?
They're working out great right now, justin I hope you're zooming in on me at this moment. I hate buying glasses. We've had this discussion before. It is the most stressful process to me. I said this to a couple of our coworkers, Jennifer Ward and Laurence Stone a couple days ago. It is like the worst school shopping you ever did as a child, because it gives you so much anxiety because if you botch it, if you mess it up, you're stuck with these things for two years or you're
paying more money out of your pocket. So I'm comfortable right now. Hopefully they stay on my face. The other ones were completely falling apart on me. I got those like during COVID.
Well, it's a good thing you replaced him.
Then, yeah, so here I am. I have clear vision for the twenty twenty four NFL draft.
Well, that is definitely the topic of discussion today. The twenty twenty four NFL Draft, the first round will begin exactly one week from tonight, and for those who've been following things on our website, we've had our Prospect Primer series taking a look at potential guys who might be available in the back half of the first round. We also have our roster series, positioned by position we call pre Draft Picture, taking a look at where the Packers'
roster stands at different spots heading into the draft. Bottom line here Wes. The Packers are going into this draft with eleven picks, including five in the first three rounds. The last time the Packers actually drafted five players within the first one hundred selections of the draft, you have to go back to two thousand and six. It was eighteen years ago they got That was the draft they
got Greg Jennings, Darren College, Jason Spitz, guys like that. So, anyway, just your thoughts on kind of how this in general shapes up for Green Bay. I mean, the Packers don't have I wouldn't say they have a bunch of glaring needs on the roster. Necessarily, there are certainly a lot of places to build depth to fill in some holes and to be going into this draft with eleven picks, including five in the first three rounds, Brian Guducunz has to like where he sits.
You want to keep cooking, and Brian Goodikunz has done a lot of cooking the last two years and his scouts and the job that they've done with these rosters. Actually, one of the stories I'm gonna be working on, I think early next week I'm finally looking to run is sort of an introspective look at what they accomplished last year and just how prolific that draft class was. You
can't always expect that. You don't always think that your first four pass catchers are all gonna end up being year one contributors, and really all these guys Carl Brooks in the sixth round having four sacks and being a pass rush specialist on third downs with Kenny Clark, those type of things cannot be predicted. But what you can do is kind of maximize this window and this opportunity
that's been presented by back to back really strong draft classes. Listen, Mike, we have talked so much about how young this team is, and I know it got almost be labored last season. Right, But one of the reasons why the Packers still are so young is because they haven't had a pressing need to go out and get a lot of free agent acquisitions. They haven't had to go out and find guys or trade for guys because of how guys stepped up in
the interim last season. If you would have told me that the injuries that would have happened at receiver and cornerback the Packers would have been able to wade through that, yeah, I would have had some real doubts because you were leaning on inexperienced guys in young rookies to be able
to fill those shoes. They did that, and now you go into this twenty twenty four NFL Draft with an opportunity to really widen out that base, fill a couple holes that got brought to fold during the free agent process, and see if you can really continue to build on this up trajectory they finished last season. Yeah.
Absolutely.
And the position that everybody is talking about, probably more so than any other right now, is the safety spot. Obviously, Xavier McKinney, as we talked on our last show, was the free agent acquisition. The Packers also have Anthony Johnson junior seventh round pick from last year, Benny Sapp, who was on the active roster toward the end of last season. He was an undrafted rookie year ago.
But a lot of.
Talk about possibly finding, you know, that that second safety
starter in this draft. I'm not I'm not entirely sold on that that Brian Gudokuntz is looking at this draft saying oh, I've got to find a starting safety because the safety position was as deep as it gets on the free agent market, and there are still some guys out there that that Gouda Kounts could pursue if things don't fall the way he prefers in the draft, but if they do, I think this is where with safety being you know, the one need that jumps out the most,
because you really don't have somebody that you say, oh, yeah, that's the guy who's going to start next to McKinney, right, So that's the need that jumps out the most. But there aren't There aren't really a lot of safety prospects being talked about his first round picks in this draft, and that's where it works out nicely for Gudukunst that he is two picks in the second round and two
picks in the third round. He can do whatever it takes to find a safety if he wants to go that way, and he doesn't have to overpay for him in the sense of his draft cap.
The thing I love about Brian goudukun so why I believe he is truly one of the elite gms in this league. And it's not just because of the shirt that I'm wearing at the moment. It's the fact that he never finds himself backed into a corner right heads into an NFL draft, Michael, You're absolutely right about how things lined up. Very deep free agent class at safety, some interesting possibilities that presented themselves. At running back, neither
of those positions. I think it's considered a deep draft at those two spots. We may get and into the third round before we see a running back come off the board. We'll have to wait and see. When you look at the safety position, there's guys that I think are going to be there in the second round, but not necessarily that Darnell Savage type that was Okay, this is the first defensive back off the board in twenty nineteen.
When you have Xavier McKinney in there. Now you have that option to potentially still looking at the free agent market like they did last year when they didn't draft a safety and they went and got Jonathan Owens a couple weeks later. You could go that route. There's still some guys out there with some pretty good credentials on the market. You could also find one of these guys on day two to pair up with McKinney and say, hey, you're a fourth year veteran, you're twenty four year old guy,
You're relatable to these guys. Help bring these guys along, and also well maybe counting on an Anthony Johnson Junior to step up after seeing about one hundred and fifty snaps last year on defense. All those possibilities are there. But I just like that when we talk about best player available, I really think that truly applies in Green Bay because in very limited instances, have you seen the Packers go into a draft with a need or they came out of it like, Okay, what are they going
to do now? Right?
Well, and what you said too about about Guta Kun's not backing himself into a corner. He the way things went at running back in free agency was not how anybody thought, you know, in advance, it was going to go. But you lose Aaron Jones, you signed Josh Jacobs. But then everybody's wondering, okay, well you know who's you know, are how higher the packer's going to draft a running back because you need somebody. Well, then he goes and
brings aj Dillon back into the fold on one year deal. Right, So that's a that's another example of he's not gonna he's not gonna let himself get boxed in. You could say the same thing in some respects at the off ball linebacker position, because everybody's looking at it saying, okay, yes, Devandre Campbell is gone, you've got kway Walker, You've got Isaiah McDuffie. The coaches have a lot of faith in
those guys. But he goes out and brings back Eric Wilson, who is mainly a special teams player but has a lot of experience at linebacker in a four to three scheme in Minnesota. Earlier in his career, he was he was one hundred plus tackle guy one year in his in his career in Minnesota. So I'm not saying Eric
Wilson is just being plugged in as a starter. The Packers might find a starting off ball linebacker, you know, Edgrin Cooper is a guy whose name is is mentioned a lot, and there are certainly some others in that second and second and third round projection. But if the Packers had to play a game today, they they have they have a third linebacker if they want one. Because Eric Wilson was brought was brought back. That's the way
Brian Goodakunz goes about things. And uh, and I give him a lot of credit for that because it just allows him to stay that much truer to his board and how they evaluate the players so that you're not reaching to fill a need. You're like, you're you can you can let it fall and go Okay, that's the best guy out there. And and uh, but you can also with the draft capital that he has, he can target guys and move around the board, move up, move down.
We'll talk a little bit more about that on our next draft preview show, because there's certainly a lot of history of that. But he's put the Packers in quite the position. And when you look at a team that played as well as it did, down the stretch. Last year came within a whisker of advancing to the NFC Championship Game. And now you have all this draft capital to potentially improve improve your squad and build things for you know, for what everyone is hoping is a wide
open window to a path toward a championship. This is this is going to be a big few days for Brian Gudakuns.
And that's what makes those top hundred picks so fascinating this year, because what do you do with them? You know, when you don't have Oh, the Packers haven't taken a receiver in the first round. They don't need one right now. They could take one, they don't need one. They haven't been in a position where they are like, okay, we have to make this address. We have to do it right now. I think the only time, the last time I remember that kind of being a conversation was twenty twenty.
We all know how that turned out, the receiver exactly when you ended up with Jordan love So. But to get back to the inside linebacker deal, I remember asking, I believe it was with Brian Gouducuntz first about Isaiah McDuffie. And here's a guy that they've developed for three years and they feel confident in him. He played, He was like the second leading tackler I think last year even though we only started eight games.
Yeah, he'd but he ended up starting half the games on the season when going into the year he wasn't you know, projected as that at all. He was essentially an injury fill in who then used all of those starts and all that time on defense to become a player that opened some eyes.
And this is a guy, Mike that when you go back to twenty twenty one, barely played at all, even with special teams. It wasn't until twenty twenty two that he became there. You know, Christian Welch's back. He's a guy that's been champion at the bit for an opportunity. So you have options, but looking quickly at that inside linebacker position, I know we'll break down positions and specific prospects a little bit more. Edrin Cooper's a guy I've
talked to your ear off about a lot. I wrote about him today an insider inbox again because I just don't have a good feel on where he's gonna go. Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah has him as a top twenty five guy right now. Some people have him in the forties. The one thing I like that he showed though last year and it's something that Green Bay has really valued traditionally.
We'll see what happens now that it's Jeff Hafley's defense, but eight of his eight and a half sacks all came last season, during his senior season or his junior season excuse me, at Texas A and M. He has that ability to quickly shoot a gap. He has that size and ranging as you look for. Not quite the same type of athlete as kway Walker doesn't quite have this the height, doesn't quite have the overall weight, but
plays fast. Peyton Wilson from NC State the senior he's another guy that on some boards is considered the top inside linebacker. And even like Jeremiah Trotter junior. There are guys that are going to be in this conversation and then with this four to three defense, they're not gonna have to be thrown into the fire necessarily. If they
earn it, they earn it. But you're going to be able to work a guy in in a base defense, much like they did with Isaiah McDuffie and given him that opportunity before he got more of a three down roll. That's where I'm really fascinated to see how Green Bay approaches it, because you covered a four to three defense in green Bay. I have not other than that quad experiment in twenty fourteen.
Yeah, it didn't go so well.
It didn't go so well, and they didn't have the bodies an inside linebacker to do it. But that's where figuring out the board is one thing for Brian Gudakunz who's available is going to be another thing. Where do the rest of the league view some of these guys and then ultimately figuring out if this is a good fit for Green Bay and Jeff Hafley's defense and Mike, you and I are going to be just like everybody else watching this thing unfold Thursday, Friday and Saturday night. Yeah.
Absolutely.
And it's been interesting because I do a lot of mock draft research to come up with the list of the guys we do for the prospect primers, and you know, so that's that's based on, you know, guys who are most frequently being mocked, you know, in the bottom third to the first round. Because the Packers are picking at
twenty five. But then after doing all these profiles on guys, it gets closer to the draft, all these guys that I look at and go, yeah, I could you know, I could see Cooper de Gene like really fitting in somewhere either at corner maybe safety for the Packers, or I could see, you know, a Tyler Geyton at offensive tackle, you know, being a guy that the Packers might go with. But then the closer it gets to the draft, Oh, these guys are gonna be gone by pick fifteen or
picked you know, pick twenty. You know. Quinyon Mitchell from Toledo is another one. I mentioned him on a show for Spectrum that we just taped yesterday, kind of an off season show, and then looking briefly at the draft. But then, you know, as soon as I mentioned him, then I go and I go and dig a little deeper, and it's like he might even go in the top ten, you know, and there's there's no way that he'll be around in the twenties for the Packers to have a
realistic shot at him. So it's it's really it's always really interesting how much things change in the you know, in the media, the perception, the reporting of things over the last couple of weeks, when really it's not changing that much for the teams themselves.
They've built their boards.
Yes, they're having final discussions and maybe making you know, shifting things a little bit here and there. But it's all about, you know, whatever whatever sort of gets leaked. Sometimes things are leaked on purpose to you know, to as a smoke screen, as some kind of subterfuge in terms of you know, who's interested in whom it's a it's a fascinating it's a fascinating.
Time of year.
I did want to get your thoughts though on a position that again, it's not it's not a screaming need for twenty twenty four, because if the Packers had to play a game today, they would they would be confident in the starting five that we have on the offensive line. But it is a position that that is a need in terms of building depth, looking toward the future all
of those things. Are there any offensive lineman that you've looked at that you think maybe would be there at twenty five because it's been a long time since the Packers took an offensive lineman in the first round.
Yeah, it's it's funny too, because you talk about okay, and I wrote about it this week. It's going up on the website Thursday, about how they have starting five there if they needed to be. Yeah, but why do we know that because of all the injuries that have happened and things that happened. You know, John Runyon played all last year, but he got kind of banged up. That's when they started doing the rotation with Sean Ryan. Obviously we know the situation that unfolded with David Bakhtiari.
Rashid Walker goes from a guy that played four special team snaps to be in a guy that played eight hundred and fifty one offensive snaps last year. Right, you have to prove yourself and unfortunately for Green Bay, and it's just the way that the NFL goes. You lost Boktiari, he got cut, Nyman went Yosh Niman went to Carolina, John Running got paid by the New York Giants. Yeah, Greenmit Packers need to be able to rebuild some of
that depth. They have some in house candidates, but who's going to be the ones that step up with that. That's why when you talk about first round picks, when you talk about guys at the top of the draft. When you talk about big bodies athleticism, a lot of times that's going to be the tackle position. It's not any coincidence that the Brian Blagas and Derek Charrod's, those type of body types were what Green Bay sought in
that first round. And maybe it's just the Larry mccaer and rubbing off of me, but a Marius Mims from Georgia is a guy that the more I've learned about him, six eight, three forty, how many different categories that he tested highly in. I don't care so much about the eight games play or eight yeah, excuse me, eight stars.
Yeah, he only only has eight because here's the thing.
To Michael, he didn't start eight games at you know, NWTC, he's at Georgia. Like it's going to be difficult. I mean, even Josh Jacobs, when you look at his resume at Alabama, it's not like Josh Jacobs had three thousand yard seasons at Alabama. He didn't. His most yards I think in the season were like six hundred. Some guys. It's harder at those colleges where it's just deef you know, five star,
four star recruits to always get your opportunity. You can't coach size, you can't coach that kind of weight and being able to move the way he does. As Larry pointed out in his prospect primer, be sure to check that out if you haven't already. He's going to be a project. There's going to be work to be done. But the beautiful thing about where green Bay's at right now at this offensive line is they got versatility and
they got experience. And if there's gonna be any position that green Bay still has some good experience at that you want to lean on, that's one of the good ones to do it at. Yeah.
And the other thing I'll say about the offensive line too, is that we heard from Brian Gudokuntz, not only when he spoke to the media right after the season, but when he spoke at Indianapolis at the combine and then
also in Florida at the owner's meetings. He talked about how as far as the development of the young wide receivers last year went, he felt that the competition that was in the room, the competition that was going on at practice for snaps, for playing time, for who was going to play what role, that was a huge factor
in the accelerated development of these guys. So when I look at at the fact that, yes, if the Packers lined up today, they would take they would put Rashid Walker at left tackle, they would put Sean Ryan at right guard. But if there's a guy or guys within those top one hundred picks that you could you can bring in a guy who can compete for a starting job with those guys who got some valuable experience last
year in the NFL. He's not going to hesitate for one second to do that because you just you listen to his words and how he talked about the wide receivers. He may apply the very same thing, the very same process to the offensive line in terms of developing competition and trying to push guys to see how much you can get out of them.
And that's ultimately what it comes down to. You don't get I mean, if you and I would have made this prediction last year May, we would have thought, Okay, yosh Niman's going to be in the starting lineup. We'll have to see exactly where Zach tom Fitz. Rashid Walker
was an afterthought for a lot of people at that point. Yeah, and then you get to the beginning of the season, after a training camp, after a nine week offseason program, and the cream does rise to the top and next thing you know, Zach tomm ends up being a seventeen game starter at right tackle. Will he be there this year, We'll have to wait and see. Much like with Elton Jenkins, there's decisions Green Bay has to make on where guys fit, what is their best position, and also where they have
the most real value to a football team. But bringing in a guy like Mims, you know, even like Tyler Geyton, guys that could potentially be there in the second round as well. By deepening out that room, I don't think you can go wrong. Because I'm not the biggest Jim harbaughf fan, but his line at the owners meetings about how there's one position that everybody else is dependent on
that they're not dependent on anybody. It's offensive line. You have to have it, and the Packers need to be able to build that front up up front for Jordan Love.
Yeah, I think that's definitely something to watch as the three days of the draft unfold next week. A little
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before we sign off. I started looking at looking at the draft from the NFC North perspective, and I got really intrigued.
Yeah, because the Bears are going to do Yeah.
Well, here's here's my point. We've talked a lot already about the Packers having five picks in the first three rounds. The Chicago Bears have two picks in the top ten, number one and number nine. What they're doing at number one is like the worst kept secret in you know, the history of the draft. But on top of that, the Minnesota Vikings, because of a trade that they made a few weeks ago, they have two first round picks
as well, number eleven and number twenty three. So everybody is wondering are the Vikings going to package those two picks to try to jump up into the top five or six or wherever that might be to get a quarterback, the guy, a guy they believe could be their next franchise quarterback. There's a lot of intrigue here with the with the NFC North, with what Chicago hasn't and what's kind of bizarre is that Chicago has two picks in the top ten and only two more picks for the
rest of the draft. So that also has people wondering are they going to take that number nine pick get as big a haul of other picks as they can so that they can so that they can try to build more depth than everything on their roster out of this draft, because otherwise, you know, after you know, by eight thirty on Thursday night, the Chicago Bears are only going to have two more picks left for the rest of the three days.
Yep.
But it's it's interesting. And then on top of that, you have Detroit picking at number twenty nine. The Lions advanced to the NFC Championship Game last year. The Lions are used to picking in the top ten, in the top twelve, sometimes in the top five. Ye the Lions are the Lions are sitting back there at twenty nine and they actually only have four picks in the first five rounds of the draft. Very different situation than where
Green Bay is. When every when it was clear that the two best teams in the division last year were the Packers and the Lions. Just you know, what thoughts do you have on how much? How much the NFC North in some ways kind of is is going to control the early parts of this draft because of because of the capitol that these teams possess.
Well, everything starts with the Vikings. You have to get a quarterback, Yeah, you have to. You can't be a sitting duck in this conference or excuse me, this division. I mean the conference too, but this division with Caleb Williams going to Chicago, the Packers appearing to be on the come up, and Detroit being an NFC title you know, can tender for that reason, I think they got to go get They have to get a quarterback. And honestly, I think a lot of that's going to depend on
Marvin Harrison Junior and Malik Neighbors. Where are those guys going, Who's taking them? What is Elliott Wolf going to do at number three with New England? Which quarterbacks could be available there from four to six, seven, eight yea. And that's the decision the Vikings have to make, because I
don't think you can sit back. Maybe maybe you can get somebody at the end of the first round and hope that there's something there, But ultimately I think that this is a draft class where you have to make a move. I think the Vikings have to make a move. I agree with you with the predicament that the Bears find themselves in. You have to take the quarterback. Now that's the worst kept secret. Yeah, and you have to
get picks. I don't say this disrespectfully to the Bears, because Mike, if you remember what I said last year when we were going through this, I wasn't sold on Chicago last year. I'm still not sold on Chicago. They just aren't deep enough with their entire roster. They're making stride, but they still have big questions on the offensive line, they have some issues still on defense, and then the fact that they are now transitioning to yet another starting
young quarterback. The Bears need picks. So if it's me, I move out of that ninth spot, I take Cale Williams. I move out of the ninth spot. As far as Detroit's concerned, You are right, they don't pick a lot at the end of the round. But Brad Holmes has done plenty of that. John Dorsey's done plenty of that. They're gonna be a team that's gonna be looking to widen out their rosters.
I guess when I was I was saying in terms of in terms of the fan base, Yeah, and what the fan base expects to get out of a draft. It wasn't that long ago that they got pinnae sewel right like way up at the top of the draft. So that's what their fans are used to. And now they're fans on the in the first round of the draft, are gonna have to wait all the way till past ten o'clock.
I was gonna say what they're gonna have to get eleven.
O'clock Eastern time zone before they get.
What they're gonna have to get used to is actually waiting with their surveys a little bit, enjoying their evening at a more balanced pace rather than getting the first pick and then.
In the rest of evening, I'm gonna I just I just have to say this. I if the the Viking, the Vikings are in a very interesting spot, as you said, because they have to come out of this draft with a quarterback. But I know, I told I told you a few years ago when there was all this, you know, all this talk about the quarterbacks and everything in the first round, that I just wasn't sure about any of those guys except Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, in terms of spending
a first round pick. Now, I still think that Justin Fields has a chance to do something in this league in if he's given, you know, the right opportunity and you know, in the right surroundings, and things just didn't
work out that way in Chicago. But all these guys that are being talked about his first round quarterbacks again this year, and I know Jayden Daniels won a Heisman Trophy and and all this kind of stuff, But outside of outside of Caleb Williams, you know, being number one overall and the Bears are going to take him, I don't know, I'm not crazy about any of these guys. So I guess, you know, if the Vikings are going to move up to get their guy, you know, good
luck to them. But there are there are certainly plenty of years where where first round quarterbacks don't work out, especially if you end up throwing him into the fire right away. And if you're the Vikings and you do get that guy and you start the season with Sam Darnold because you're going to let your young guy develop, well, all it takes is a couple of losses and everybody's going to be screaming to put the young guy in there,
and he's going to get thrown in there anyway. So it's not an easy spot for the Vikings to be and and not an easy spot for the Bears either because everybody knows they need pick. So how much are they really going to get for the number nine pick when when they're dangling it out there and everybody knows that they that they probably want to trade.
It depends on what quarterbacks are still available. Yeah, that's what to and get.
That's what it's going to come.
My question for you this was not on the pre production rundown, but I'm gonna put you on the spot here.
All right, Well I do it to you plenty, So.
Michael Pennox, ju and your where does he go? I've seen him at fourteen, I've seen him at thirty one Because I think that's the quarterback, that's where the run is. So how quickly does that run coming go? I think there's probably six quarterbacks taken the first round. I think he's the last one.
Yeah, I I think I see I see that as being sort of like the Lamar Jackson situation, where somebody, somebody is going to say, Okay, if he's if he's still there, I'm going to trade up into the thirtieth or thirty first or thirty second spot and get that guy there and then you know, you have the fifth year option and everything if things work out and he's an he's still developing. But but that's the thing about
the draft. All it takes is one and somebody might take him at it in the middle of the first round. He won't even get out of the top twenty, you know, you know.
But that that's why it's fine.
But I look at him as very much like the Lamar Jackson situation where Jackson ended up, you know, and the Teddy Bridgewater It was the same, the same kind of thing when he was drafted by the Vikings, where it was like, oh, there's a quarterback who's there, and you can you can jump up to the bottom of the first round and grab him in and then you have sort of that contractual advantage down the road if if it works out.
I just don't know what to like. The thing that's funny about the Jackson analogy is I was so high on Lamar Jackson. I thought that was such a brilliant pick by Baltimore. I don't say that for Cloud, I mean legitimately, I just I watched him a lot in college. I was really impressed by him. I thought that his skills could translate. I don't have that type of feel on Pennix, but so many people out Washington said he's just an incredible talent, great arm strength.
But yeah, it's funny anytime that Lamar Jackson has brought up. It's like I distinctly remember being at the combine in Indianapolis. Yeah, at you know, standing aways back. It wasn't like I was trying to interview him. It was more out of curiosity to listen to the conversation. And he's at the podium for his meeting with the media and everybody's asked him.
So you know, you know, what do you think about you know, these teams that maybe want to work you at receiver and he must in the ten minutes he was up there, he must have said I'm a quarterback like fifty times, like and and he was doing it with a smile and spacel like, Hey guys, like, I'm a quarterback. I'm planning to play quarterback in the NFL.
I'm a quarterback and you know yeah, And then it's turned out he's you know, he's an MVP caliber guy and uh and you know all that's missing on his resume right now is obviously getting to a super Bowl, which which the Ravens have not yet been able to accomplish with him.
Now, I'm just taking us off track, but I still one of my favorite moments ever is still that jay Ara actually reacting. Do you ever see that clip when he's reacting to Lamar getting picked. He's in the middle of an interview.
Oh yeah, it's picked. Yeah.
Oh, it's it's the best clip. He's just like yeah, like he just starts. It's like it's almost like that thing where he walked up on that lady earlier this year during that same thing, like the interview just gets completely sidetracked because he's focused on his quarterback going in the first round.
There you go, well, we have one more show early next week that we will do leading up to the draft. We'll get into, you know, maybe some more of our insights on just where the Packers might be headed and what might happen while the Packers are on the clock, But for now, well we'll call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted'd be sure to follow all of our coverage of the team, all of the pre draft work, prospect primer series, pre draft picture series. It's
all out there for you on Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you next time.