Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from disparate locations at lambeau Field and it is Draft Week. Welcome to Draft Week. Wes. Are you ready for this upcoming three day extravaganza.
Yeah, it's exciting time, Mike. I'm excited to get back at it. You know, when you look at the NFL Draft, this is the time of the year. It's all this consternation, all this talk, all this discussion. Well, over these three days Thursday through Saturday, we'll finally get some answers, two hundred and fifty six picks whatever gets made. And as we learned last year, there are no mystery relevance in this thing and the agreement Packers as things stand right
now have ten picks. So an exciting time once again to see what all this hustle and bustle and discussion really can amount to.
All Right, well, you and I don't normally get into the prediction business, but that's about all we have left to do in terms of previewing this draft is to just throw out a few predictions, so to speak, that we might have. The first one I want to ask you about is when, if will this Aaron Rodgers trade go down. Do you think it happens before the draft? Do you think it happens during the first round. Do you think it happens during the second round. What's your
gut tell you right now? As far as the timing of this pending Aaron Rodgers trade to the New York Jets.
Well, again, just being someone that's seeking closure on this whole thing, I'm going to try to steer on the side of optimism here and say that it does get done before and obviously there were some reports out over the weekend that the talks between the Packers and Jets have kind of ramped up again. And frankly, as I've said before and was one of my sign offs last week, you know, you're so appreciative of everything that Aaron Rodgers
did here. But obviously, you know it was a month ago now that I was in Arizona and Brian Goodcomes mentioned you know they're working to facilitate this trade. So it's all been building up towards this, and no matter what you and I write Mike, I feel like it's always coming back to, well, what is happening with the quarterback situation? When is the trade gonna happen, and if it does, what does that mean now for the Packers moving forward? And I just kind of wanted some answers.
So I'm hoping it's before Round one. It'd be interesting if it's on Friday. I just feel like that's such a weird timing in terms of, Yeah, you know, both the Jets and the Packers at that point, as weird as the sounds, when you're dealing with the four time MVP quarterback, they have more pressing matters at the moment in terms of trying to shuffle out what the rest of their roster is going to look like. But you know, we've learned time and time again there's no deadlines on
these things. And if you go back to twenty thirteen, ten years ago, Michael, the Green Bay Packers work their actually be their second extension with Aaron Rodgers just before Round one. Would be curious to see what would happen potentially ten years later if the Packers could end up finally finalizing that trade for him to New York.
Yeah, I've been trying to figure out if this happening on Friday night as the second round gets underway makes some sort of sense. And I've gone back and forth on it because we heard Brian Gudukunst at the league meetings in Phoenix say that the Jets' first round pick number thirteen overall in this draft is not necessarily a requirement from the Packers' point of view to get this
deal done. So you go, okay, Well, the Jets have two picks in the middle of the second round, right near where the Packers' second round pick is as well, so you're thinking, well, then maybe it won't happen until Friday. But if you're Brian Gudukunst and you're potentially going to get a second round pick or or an asset like that, wouldn't you want to have that on Thursday night in case you want to move up or move around in
the first round. If you wait until Friday to make the deal for a second round pick, than any maneuverability as far as the first round on Thursday night is
kind of out the windows. So I think my best guess, again, this is a guess, but I think this trade gets done either, right, before the draft starts on Thursday, or maybe just within the first few picks to where suddenly you know there's gonna be a round pick three or pick four, there's gonna be some you know, breaking news that the trade has been finalized, it's been turned into
the league. I just think the Packer, even if Brian Gudacunz is not going to move around a bunch in the first round, I still think if he's getting a second round pick as part of this deal, he's gonna want at least the option, at least the availability to do that. So that's just my gut feeling on this,
but we'll have to see. It was interesting, though, I thought to hear Gutakuns to go on the record to say that the Jets first round pick number thirteen overall is not some sort of prerequisite or requirement for the Packers to make this deal for Aaron Rodgers. That sort of caught my ear when he said that at the end of March.
Mike, have you ever sold a snowblower before?
No, I've only bought snowblowers, I've never sold them.
Have you ever sold a lawnmar No? Have you ever sold a car? Yes? Okay, So let me ask you this. When you got the compensation for the car, that goes into your bank account, right, it goes into your wallet. You can go spend it for other things. Have you ever tried to walk into let's say Meyer for example, and tried to buy something with a car. Probably doesn't work, right,
you need the monetary value. Yeah, that's where I fall on this Rogers thing, because it's like, you're right, man, they could wait until Friday, work a deal, see what happens. But at the same time, there's so much spendable cash. If you have let's just say it'd be two second rounders, Well, if you have the two second rounders on Thursday, you could still move around, you know, with the fifteenth pick. That's why I to go back to you know, if
you can get this thing done before the first round begins. Now, if you can't, you can't. But the assets and the liquidity is so much greater. I feel the earlier that this thing gets done. Yeah, and at the end of the day, like I've said before, the Green Bay Packers feel really good about Jordan Love. The Jets obviously have really hitched their wag into the idea of Aaron Rodgers
being the quarterback. Now you and I will be sitting around drinking our coffee waiting for the rest of the chips to fall.
Yeah. Well, outside of the potential Aaron Rodgers trade, the Packers are sitting at number fifteen in the first round, They're sitting at number forty five in the second round. We've seen We've seen Brian Gudakunz move up in the first round where you drafted Darnell Savage, he drafted Jordan Love with trades up in the first round. We've seen him move back in the first round. We've seen him move back and up in the same first round the
year he got JayR Alexander. So what's your gut feeling here with the Packers sitting at number five fifteen do you think do you think it's a trade up, do you think it's a trade back? Do you think it's a sit and pick situation? Obviously it all depends on who you know, who goes in those first ten or twelve, you know, as things unfold. But what's your gut say in terms of what the Packers do with the fifteenth pick?
Mike, I don't know anything, and obviously that's an evergreen statement. But this to me feels a lot like twenty eighteen, if I'm being honest with you, When the Packers were originally sitting at fourteen, they moved back, the New Orleans Saints came up to take Marcus Davenport. The Packers ultimately settled, not settled, but found jyr Alexander at eighteen after moving around.
When you're picking in the middle of the pack like that, it's such an interesting spot because your assets are aligned in such a way that you could move up a few spots, or you could potentially move back a little bit too, depending, as you said, on how the board falls. I think a lot of this is going to have to do with those four quarterbacks. How early do those
guys go off the board? Would imagine they all will be off the board before fifteen, But the earlier the better, uh, in terms of you know, Green Bay's standpoint and being able to maybe get a top player at tight end or defensive line, what have you. But also what is the trickle down effect of that. You're seeing reports now of the Minnesota Vikings potentially having interest in Will Levis, so could they move up? You know, how does that affect the board, fifteen is such a malleable pick in
terms of where you go and where you sit. I think, out of all the scenarios, and as you outlined, Brian Gutikuntz has exercised them all in five years, but to me, I think the most unlikely is for them just to sit at fifteen. Now. Let's not to say they won't, but I just feel like the positioning of the board, the depth of this first round, and also the fact that packers do have those ten picks right now really creates a lot of intrigue there for what potentially Green Bay could do. I yeah.
And in addition to the quarterbacks, because the quarterbacks always, you know, dictate how the first round goes from from a league wide perspective. The other thing I think that's that's going to have a big impact here are those top four offensive tackles. When you're talking about Scarronsky Jones, Paris Johnson Junior, and Darnell Right, those guys are pretty much considered, you know, the the elite, the top four
offensive tackles in this draft. And once you know the first one or two of those guys goes and then there's only say two of them left on the board. The teams that are really really in need of fixing, you know, either a left tackle or a right tackle spot and want to get one of these top guys in the first round and not wait around and take their chances on a you know, a lesser evaluated player. I think that's where we could start to see some movement.
So the quarterbacks are going to have their say in the movement and how things go. But I think the offensive tackles are going to play a part in that too, just because there seems to be such a you know, such a solid grouping of these are the top and then there's sort of everybody else at those offensive tackle spots.
Well. And then, honestly, Mike think about it, because you're always gonna you know, Will Anderson is gonna come off the board. Obviously, Jalen Carter has a couple more questions
now where he could potentially fall. It's always doing simple math and just figuring out, Okay, there's there's certain guys that could be there, and there's certain guys who undoubtedly will not be And if you run those numbers, it really does put you in a situation if you're Brian and if you're the packer's personnel department, where I mean, there's gonna be six seven guys who are going to potentially be there for you. Who do you like the
most out of that grouping? And then, by the way, if they're all there, then that's probably where it gives you the flexibility to move back. It's the game that
must be played. But I'll the last thing I'll leave you with on this topic is I was sitting earlier this, you know, on Sunday morning, and I was thinking about, Okay, the draft week is finally here, right, and about how Brian gudikin somewhere in Green Bay, Wisconsin is sitting around probably with his family or you know, doing what have you. And I'm like, the decisions he's gonna make the ten cards or more or less that he turns in, the trickle down effect that that's going to have on so
many young men's lives around the country. At this very time, I was watching the video that I don't even know if it's up at the time and this is posting, but the interview that Larry mccaerron did with Kay Walker and seeing that video again of Clay in his living room with all of his family surrounding him. It is a life changing moment that is going to not only
affect this franchise's history, but also these individuals. So it's the exciting prospect of finding a real talent, somebody that, regardless of the position, is going to be a playmaker in Green Bay for ten twelve years, and ultimately that decision lies in the hands of Brian Goudekunst.
Yeah, well you said it. In terms of with the Packers being at fifteen, it feels like there are going to be a handful of players that I think the Packers are going to like that They're going to have strong evaluations on, have very strong feelings about, and they're going to have their pick of of what direction they want to go. We talked about this a little bit on our last show, but I want to follow up
with it again. What position do you think, you know, in that scenario, say there's four or five guys at some different spots, the Packers all have them, you know, graded relatively equally, and you know which is a nice spot to be in. Which position do you think they go with?
Yeah, And out of any years in which I've covered the draft, this is actually number fourteen. For me already going back to when I was just helping out at the pres Cosette in twenty ten, this is the year I think, I'm It reminds me the most of twenty fourteen, where I was like, Hey Ryan Cheese or CJ. Moseley, haha, Clinton Dix. There's so many different ways green Bay could go, and I think all those decisions could help them. But if I was to do a mock draft right now,
I think it comes back to Lucas van Es. For me, the more I thought about it, the more that he makes sense, and in a lot of ways he kind of reminds me of Clay Matthews. He's much bigger than Clay, you know, about twenty pounds heavier. But this is one of those type of guys that you didn't really get
the full feeling of his potential at Iowa. He wasn't a starter every year, but he would fit the prototype for them, And I think, as you've talked about a couple times, I mean, there's a couple of these guys in that six five two seventy range, almost that Preston Smith type range, where I don't think you could go wrong, and for a guy like VanNess. If he comes in and needs to be a rotational guy right away like he kind of was at times at Iowa, well he's
still going to have the flexibility to do that. So as deep as this draft is at a number of positions, I want to sort of test that depth a little bit at tight end. I want to test that depth at offensive line or receiver and go out and get what is probably going to be the best available pass rusher at fifteen. So the answer to your question is edge rusher. And to be more specific, I think Lucas VanNess is the guy that could potentially be that fit.
Yeah, I'm with you. I think, you know, all else being equal in the scenario that the very sort of basic boring scenario I laid out, I'm inclined. I'm inclined to think the Packers are going to go edge rusher. I do think Lucas van Ness would be would be a guy very high on their board. The other one that I talked about on our last show with that Preston Smith build Miles Murphy from from Clemson, I think
could potentially fit there too. Some people might say fifteen is a little bit high for Murphy, but at the same time, there aren't. You know, there there are the there are the edge rushers who are in that you know, two forty two fifty range, and then there are the edge rushers that are in the two sixty five to
two seventy five range. And there's a big difference there because you know, you talk about a guy like Van Ness and you see this on the tape at Iowa where he would move inside and become an interior rusher in certain sub packages, certain third downs and things like that. And we've seen, you know, with with the Smiths, with Rashan Gary over the years here in Green Bay, that
the packers like to do that. I'm sorry if you draft an edge rusher who's two hundred and forty five pounds, he's not lining up as a three technique on third and eight, you know, to give you a different look in the pass rush going to be out on the edge.
You don't have that flexibility. That's where the body type thing comes into it for me in terms of in terms of looking at that, I wanted to ask you as well as far as you know, your your favorite guys so to speak, at certain positions, and when I say favorite guys, I mean guys that realistically could be available for the Packers either and say the first round or the second round, you know, Thursday night or Friday night. You mentioned Vanes at the edge. I'm totally on board
with that. I also like Murphy from Clemson defensive line. With the Packers obviously moving on from Jaron Reed and Dean Lowry and looking for a big step forward from Devonte Wyatt and TJ. Slayton, is there a defensive lineman out there within you know, the first fifty picks that that you think maybe fits Green Bay can.
If we're gonna do the favorite topic, can I start with something else though, I'm taking the ship from me for a second. That's okay. As soon as you said favorite, The first guy that popped in my head is no Washington and the reason why it ties in really quickly. Now, this is not a defensive lineman all though, Shoot, the kid could probably play there with a big play there. Yeah.
But the big reason I just want to mention that, Michael, is when we were talking about fifteen and potentially moving back or acquiring more picks if the Packers don't want to go Kincaid at fifteen, Washington is the type of guy, probably a little bit like Murphy, where if you move to the end of the first round, or maybe even move up a little bit in the second, that could
be a really good fit for them. Washington is the guy I've kind of labeled as the baby Mercedes a little bit, just because of the amount of athleticism and a huge body. And I feel like, at some point, Mike, I don't know if it's the first round, second round, or third round, those first two days before you and I are walking out of lambeau Field, the agreement packers, I feel are going to draft a tight end. I just when you look at the makeup of them, I
know there's Mayher excuse me, Michael Meyer. Fantastic player, really good in line blocker. I think that's why a lot of people are high on them. Dalton Kincaid brings a lot to the party, Sam Laporta, all these different guys. But when I looked at the film, and again I'm not a scout, but when I looked at the film, Darnell Savage is the type of player. Excuse me, Darnel Savage.
Darneld Savage too, but Darnel Washington is the type of player that makes me just be like, man, I wish training campus he already because I want to see this kid play.
Yeah, I'm with you in the sense that I like actually a lot of these tight ends.
Washington.
Washington is in his own category in terms of the type of the type of player he is, the type
of physical presence and everything that he is. I don't know if the Packers are going to go tight end in round one, which I think would be either Mayor from Notre Dame or Kincaid from Utah, if you go tight end in round two and you want to target a guy like Washington, or if you want to stay in the middle of the second round or maybe even move back a little bit in the second round, the Muskrave from Oregon State could potentially be a good fit at tight end two, and you're still getting one of
the top four or five tight ends in this draft. So I think, I think all of those are our possibilities. But Washington, Washington is the one who just who sticks out because he's different, right, Yeah, he's a he's a different breed a cat and uh and very intriguing in terms of how this tight end, the order of the selection of the tight ends could unfold the Thursday and Friday.
Thank you for humoring me. Now we can get back to the Mike Spofford Packers on scripted. That was that was playing? Okay, I was? I mean tight end, wasn't.
I just got to check off, you know, I'm checking off all the moving around the different positions. So yeah, we've talked about edge, we talked about tight ends. So where do you want to go next to Wes?
You pick it defensive line. Those start because because Brian Breezy, you know Clemson, this is a kid that when you look at losing a Dean Lowry type, he fits that role right six foot six, three hundred pounds, can probably put a little bit more onto that frame. He's had to weather a few things, but I think when you look at the makeup, when you're looking at guys that could potentially compliment a Kenny Clark or a DeVante Wyatt, he is the guy and reading off and doing some
of these prospect primers with him. He's definitely one of the dudes that the more I read about him, the more I learned about his story, he seems like a Green Bay Packers type of player, and I'd be interested to see if that potential guy was there. Also the Northwestern kid, I'm not even going to try to pronounce his name, and that doesn't have the same type of size.
But Mike, we've learned time and time again now with these defensive linemen, especially these three techniques, six foot two, two hundred and ninety eight pounds is no longer a deal breaker in this league if you can get the guy that you're lined up across room to get on his heels.
Yeah, Brazi from Clemson is the guy I really like on the defensive line. I agree with you. I think he's I think he's a really good fit for this this Packer system. What the Packers like to do with their defensive lineman, they what they asked them to do.
That being said, you know, we're talking about edge and D line and tight end, and you're not gonna be able to draft everybody you want in the first two rounds, right, I mean, Thursday and Friday night are going to go by, and all of these you know, different spots that we're talking about, the Packers aren't going to be able to
address them all. So these are these are various favorites that we're talking about, but knowing realistically that the Packers can't get all of these guys, but but you hope that maybe things fall a certain way, or that that Brian Guducuts can move around on the board as such to to maybe get some of them. The the other
another spot to ask you about wide receiver. I know Jackson Smith jigba Is is your guy, and he may be there at fifteen for Green Bay, and he may present a very very intriguing prospect here in the fact that the Packers haven't drafted a wide receiver in the first hail for a couple of decades now, but he may be there. Aside from aside from him, any other any other receivers that that you have your eye on in this draft.
Yeah, this is the other thing. I wish I could say the whole tweet. But it is incredible the amount of kind of smaller receivers in this year's draft. I forget who who put it out there, one of the draft experts, but the amount of guys under five to ten and the amount of guys under one hundred and ninety pounds in the top one hundred or two hundred prospects, it is incredible. I mean We're just really quickly reeling
this off. You know, Zay Flowers goes out of Boston College five foot nine, one hundred and eighty two pounds. I mean, Jordan Addison USC five to eleven, one seventy three, Tyler Scott from Since he one seventy seven, Josh Downs
UNC five nine one seventy one. Jalen Hyatt is probably the next guy I look at if it's not going to be in Jig Smith and Jigba, because again, he fits more that six foot one, got a little bit more of that size to him, similar to what the Packers have gone with with a A Romeo Dobbs at DeVante Adams in the past. The Packers so many years, Mike, they put in really big assets into six foot four receivers two hundred plus pounds. Are ain't a lot of them in this year's draft class in terms of at
least the high end ones. So finding out exactly where the Packers decide to spend that pick is going to be really interesting because at some point they have to draft a receiver. But I'll be just really interested in a draft where there's so many talented guys that don't necessarily maybe meet the ron Wolf, you know, sort of standard in terms of size, which guys the packers could potentially roll the dice on.
Yeah, you're right, You're right in that there are a lot of these, a lot of these smaller uh you know, sort of the the cat quick, the classic slot receiver, you know type. Not not to not to pegger or stereotype these guys too much, but but they seem to fit, you know, those those type of labels. The other one, and I've I've been talking about him, you know, having done a prospect primer on him that I'm really curious because I've seen evaluation scouting reports all across the board
on Quinton Johnston from TCU. There there are some scouts that really really like him. There are some that just that that question how consistent his hands are and whether he's going to be able to be a consistent pass catcher in the NFL. But he caught my eye right away because he is almost the exact same size as Christian Watson. He just wait, yeah, he just doesn't run a four to three. He runs a four or five. He's which is not exactly slow, but he's not the
he's not the speed burner that that Watson is. That being said, more often than not, the Packers have invested draft picks at the receiver position on the bigger bodies, not necessarily the smaller bodies. And so that's why I wonder, you know where where he fits. And not to say that I don't think he's would be in play for the Packers at fifteen overall in the first round, but depending on what happens with the Rogers trade, your second round assets are then potentially what things look like in
the third round. With with some of the negative things that I've seen about Johnson from TCU, maybe he's still on the board in the third round. I mean, who the heck knows.
Yeah, he's probably more than any other receiver I can remember in terms of just the screpancy of where scouts have this kid, in terms of, you know, some of them will have them as the top receiver on the board, some of them have them underneath some of those other receivers that I mentioned. What is intriguing to me though about him is you mentioned the comparisons to Christian Watson.
We've touched on that before, but it's also he does remind me a lot of Watson in terms of how the scouts are kind of like confused in terms of where this kid should be drafted. Right, there were people that thought that Christian Watson was a hands down top twenty player last year. There were people that said, there's no way you can spend a first round pick on
this kid. I think thirty four ended up being a pretty good compromise because the packers moved up basically treated him like a first round pick to be able to get him at that spot, but didn't waste much time on day two and doing it. I mean, they turned in that card pretty quick after acquiring the second pick of day two. So he's going to be one man. There's a number of these kids, and Darnel Washington is
one of them too. Where I don't know where they're going to go, but as long as they're on the board, my eyes are going to be kind of gravitating toward their name.
Yeah, I'm going to be very curious to see how that unfolds. One other spot I want to ask you about. We already talked a little bit about the offensive tackles in that top group, but do you have a guy who's who's a favorite in that bunch that maybe is going to intrigue Green Bay in terms of how they navigate the first and second rounds of this draft.
Well, like I've said to you before, the Peter Skronski thing is interesting because it depends on how you look at his situation because, as I touched on, he has shorter arms. But the Packers really like guys that could potentially play multiple positions. Scronsky is that guy. I think he is athletic enough and talented enough he's going to
be able to be just fine at right tackle. There's guys more I read about him that are just absolutely convinced that this kid is going to be a ten year start in the NFL at tackle, no questions asked. After Saturday night, We're never going to be talking about his arm length again. But Paris Johnson's the one I have always kind of identified as probably the most ready
made prospect. I just I like the pedigree. Obviously there's a history there of that program, but also the standpoint of you can't teach six ' five, you can't teach three hundred and ten pounds, and if there is an aspect when you look at the guys that have truly succeeded in Green Bay at that tackle position, that's kind of been the commonality. David Bakhtiari. People thought he was too small. David Baktii's height was never a problem. He put on a couple pounds. The kid was just fine.
Brian Blaga was as ready made as they probably come in terms of going from Iowa to the NFL. Paris is sort of the guy that I look at in terms of if you want just a consistent, steady, probably guy you can insert on day one and let him fly. That's the guy I feel the best of out.
Yeah, and what's interesting if the Packers go that route, they don't necessarily need him to step in right away. Yeah, try one, right. But that being said, to have that type of that type of insurance policy at offensive tackle, assuming you're going into the season with Boktiari on the left side of yash Nimen on the right side, to have that kind of an insurance policy if something happens
is not a bad spot to be in. I've been before, and it's it just when I see six foot five, three hundred and thirty pounds and a guy who can move like Darnell right from Tennessee, it just it catches my eye. I know there are a lot of things out there in terms of you know, I don't I don't like to read too much into it, but there's stuff out there about his attitude and this and that and the other thing, and it's like, I'll let the scouts sort that out. I don't know if the Packers
like like this young man or not. But but when you when you look at the film and you look at what he did in the sec six foot five and three thirty and a guy that a guy that feels like you know again, you could you could just say, all right, here's a here's a right tackle for the next decade in the NFL, and you don't have to worry about that spot. That always, that always becomes an intriguing option to me.
Last thing I just want to mention too. I know sometimes you can run into problems with the height thing, and you know, with offensive lineman, Bay Packers have not been deterred by that. You look at Caleb Jones and Yashneimen. They go and they'll get offensive lineman, they'll teach them pad level, they'll be good there.
Well. Packers drafted a six ' five center in the second round. A couple of years ago. I mean, six foot five playing center, and you know Josh Myers Is is doing his.
Thing just fine. So yes, So in that idea, Blake Freeland from BYU six foot eight, incredible build, a lot of frame to work with, you know, only around the three hundred pound range. But again, if you're looking at guys, and that's what I'm doing here, you know, again, that's probably the reason I'm not as high on Skorronski as other people, because I feel like the Packers have plenty of talent for the interior offensive line. It's more about what are they looking at in terms of the future
at the outside tackle positions. Right, He's another guy that kind of fits probably more that Jared Valdeer sort of you know, taller, more slender. But if you teach him the right fundamentals, he's going to give you a heck of a bang for your buck.
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Subs fifty years of better. All right. One of my last questions for you, are the Packers going to draft a kicker?
The more and more the closer we get to the draft. Mic again, I don't know what's happening with Mason Crosby, but the more convinced I am that Jake Moody is going to potentially be a guy that you could pick. On day three, I actually was hanging out with a good friend of mine, Michael Cohen. You know Michael as well. Yes, he got to cover him at Michigan, and he's he was pretty convinced that this kid is going to be a pretty talented player, has a heck of a leg.
As recently, I think is probably two weeks ago. In inbox, I was writing, I just don't know if anyone's going to have a draftable great, I'm not exactly sure. If you know, do you I want to spend one of the picks on the kicker, but with as many day threes as the picks as the Packers do have, Moody's the one that'll test it if he's there, if he's available, and it makes sense, he was the one I would consider. If not him, I'm still not really sold. I'm not sure.
I Mean, there's some draft alphlets I think that don't even have a kicker in the top three hundred on their boards. So but but Moody definitely has an NFL ag and could potentially be the guy that gets brought in. And it's been fifteen years since the sixteen years since the Green Bay Packers have drafted a kickers, so eighteen years. Mason Crosby's not coming back out of any free agent kicker on the market, regardless of the fact he's thirty eight.
I would still go with Mason Crosby. So if it's not going to be Mason, if that if again, we'll see what happens. But for me, it's draft or nothing. If you're moving on from Mason.
Yeah, all right, last one for you, Wes, And this is kind of a you can take this any direction you want to, But come next when we do our next show in the early part of next week, and we are reviewing the draft? What is the what is a topic that is going to be very high on the discussion list that we have not necessarily been talking a whole heck of a lot about in our pre draft episodes here.
What do you think? Yeah, drafting a quarterback. I think that's going to happen over the three days, especially if the deal goes down with Rogers. We know the situation with the Packers. I've talked at numerous times about how I'm not a guy that's typically wanting to just throw money at a veteran backup just to have one. I
like potentially developing a young guy. Who could that be because if you look outside of Jordan Love, the Packers haven't really dipped into those waters very often and really now the last what eight years, So that would be the position I'm kind of looking at. Even even when terms of undrafted free agency, the Packers haven't signed a
lot of quarterbacks lately. They've had you know, your Danny Ettlings and in some of these veterans that have been around a little bit and been the practice squad guy. So I'll be it's very interested to see who they potentially pick and if they make the decision that Love
is the guy you're moving on from Aaron Rodgers. Do the Packers follow suit to what Ted Thompson did in two thousand and eight and actually draft a quarterback in those not maybe the first round, but in those earlier rounds to see if you have a young guy there that you potentially like.
Yeah, I think I think the topic we're gonna be talking about next week and it's gonna be a lot of fun. There's gonna be some confusion with it. And when I say confusion, I don't necessarily mean that's a bad thing, but I think we're all gonna be trying to figure out what are the Packers doing gonna do in the secondary, because I think at some point in this draft the Packers are going to take a corner and they're also going to take a safety. But we're
gonna be trying to figure out. Okay, so you have Alexander and Russeull Douglas on the outside, You brought back Keishaan Nixon to play the slot. You have Eric Stokes coming back from the injury, and where does he fit? And then there might be another cornerback draft pick in the mix, and then at safety. Right now, Savage and Flour would probably be your two starters based on how
the roster sits. But if you draft a safety in the third or fourth round, is that a guy who could legitimately compete, you know, for a starting spot at safety or you know, you know as perhaps you know, a dime roll or something like that. I think there's gonna be a lot of things up in the air with regard to just what the Packers' secondary is going
to look like. And I think it could be some some fun discussion because I think I think ultimately the Packers are going to have some options there, especially if we find out somewhere along the line that all of the recovery news with Eric Stokes and coming back to you know, to be in that top group of corners with this team and be healthy and ready to go. If that, if that indeed is the scenario, where.
Does Brian Branch go in your mind? Because the way I look at it is it's kind of like taking, like in your fantasy football draft, taking Travis Kelce, where you're gonna get, you know, hands down, the top guy at that position, but there's going to be depth in other areas. Where do you think a team potentially moves on him.
I'm I'm going to say, I'm gonna say it's going to be in the bottom in the bottom quarter, you know, the last seven to eight picks of the first round. I think maybe is where he goes. I think where the Packers are sitting in the middle of the first round. That just that just feels too rich for for that type of selection. Could be wrong, who knows. We never know exactly what these teams.
Are putting on the spot. I was just curious.
Yeah, no, but I think I think a guy like that is is a first round pick and a first round talent, but it's probably more, you know, the back end the last six eight picks of the first round.
That's just my best guess. Yeah, because it's that. That's what I'm most excited to see on Thursday Night, Mike, is that we talk about these offensive tackles and these quarterbacks and these defensive linemen, edge rushers, tight ends. Somebody has to fall and it's always interesting seeing teams play that dance in terms of, Okay, we really like these type of players, but then now you have the top prospects at these positions. The Packers ran into that situation
in twenty nineteen. Darnell Savage was the first defensive back taken in that draft, not safety, first defensive back taken in that draft, and always trying to figure out exactly where those boards are gonna fall. Can't wait to see it. It's gonna be a night other exciting NFL draft.
Yeah, well, rest up the rest of this week, Weston, because come Thursday night, Friday night, and all day Saturday, we got some long nights and some long days ahead. But it should be fun. It's the most important three days of any off season for the Green Bay Packers, so we certainly get geared up for it every year. With that, we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. We will be back with more episodes following the draft to review all the picks and resume
all of these discussions. So for Wes, I am Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody.
We'll see you next time.