#652 Packers Unscripted: Details on the draft

tell right now. Obviously we won't really know for maybe another year or two or more as to what this draft class really adds up to. But you have to start on the defensive side of the ball, because Brian Goodakun has had two picks in the first round at twenty two and at did not make a trade in the first round. State at those two spots and picked two defenders from George's naw Sational championship unit, And of course I'm talking about linebacker Quay Walker defensive lineman DeVante Wyatt.

Just initially, your thoughts on those two guys being added to a Packers defense that, as we all know, was playing pretty darn well at the end of it's true, Mike, and I'm not the kind of person that's going to sit here, you know, poor Dyke coke down your back and tell you it's not raining. I didn't. I wasn't looking a lot at Walker throughout this process, and that

has nothing really to do with Walker. It has more to do with the fact that as much as we've talked about the receiver position, how long it's been since they've drafted one in the first round, it had been sixteen years since they've taken an inside linebacker. So I've seen some good options on the board over the years. But once I got into Thursday, and it started with my good friend Pete Doherty that was actually his pick

for the Green Bay Press Gazette. We had talked about him a little bit, I started to kind of dive into him a little bit more so at the time in which the Packers finally did select him, I actually went, you know what, that made a lot of sense. This guy's a tall, rangy athlete. And when you look at what the Packers typically look for in the draft picks one,

it's athleticism. I mean, you look at all those metrics and those new found kind of analytics that that talk about the athleticism factor of Green Bay what they look for in their picks, but realistically, it's also the application of it and what he was able to do in George's defense and how he projects at the next level.

And when I closed my eyes and I start to mentally visualize him standing next to deve Andre Campbell, it's not even just about the fact that they haven't had two linebackers like that, they haven't had two athletes with those bills and that kind of sideline to sideline speed at least during my time on the beat and extending well before that. We can talk about why it too, but I mean first and foremost the fact that the

Packers did finally jump at an inside backer. The more you look at the Quay Walker selection, the more it made more sense to be Walker is one of these players. It's interesting because it happens every year in the draft. Sometimes it's even with multiple players, where he's a player at a certain position where there are other guys in the country, and in this case actually another guy on his own team at Georgia who got all of the all of the accolades, the Butt Kass Award, the you know,

the postseason honors, all of these kinds of things. There were a couple of other guys in this drafted inside linebacker who got all of that attention, so they in all of the mock drafts and and all of the analysts were putting those guys up there as first round draft picks. Then as you got to the last few days before the draft, suddenly this name kay Walker started popping up. And the way it's portrayed in the media is, oh,

Kwaywalker is rising up draft boards. Well, no, he's been on the draft boards of NFL teams this whole time.

Where he is it's that reporters and analysts are finding out more about what these teams actually think of this guy, and so there he's rising on their boards because of what they're learning through their channels and connections as to what's going on in the actual NFL draft rooms, and so as the as the when the draft did arrive on Thursday night, there were plenty of people who were saying that Kaywalker very likely could be a first round pick, and then, as it turned out, the Packers made him

the first inside linebacker to come off the board. When I look at these two picks in tandem, so to speak, Walker and Wyatt at twenty two And excuse me, I look at these as as companion picks in a sense because kway Walker sort of becomes the companion to dev Andre Campbell at inside linebacker. With Joe Barry and his scheme and wanting to wanting to keep two inside linebackers on the field from a matchup perspective as much as possible, Davante Wyatt kind of becomes the companion to Kenny Clark.

The Packers haven't really drafted a defensive lineman with the the size, athleticism, pass rush ability, that that whole package that Kenny Clark brings. They haven't really drafted a guy with that type of profile now until they've drafted Wyatt. So it's sort of like I see the middle of the Packers defense potentially developing into these two pairs of players, the two guys up front, the two at inside linebacker.

I think that's how they'd like to see it developed. Obviously, with these guys being rookies, we just have to see exactly how it goes. Absolutely, but why it was the one I think I was most excited about, And again that's nothing against Walker, but why it's the one that I think, even going back to February, I had my eye on because I did too, And I'll be honest.

When the packers did not take Wyat at twenty two, and Brian Goudicus Steven said so he thought they had probably given up their chance to get him, figuring he would go somewhere between twenty two and twenty eight. But he was still there at twenty eight, so he took him. And when you had Trayvon Walker, you had Jordan Davis. Those were two of the guys that I think got a lot of the accolades, got a lot of the attention, but you can't discount what why It did in that

Georgia defense and what he sort provided to them. And I think there's a reason why when scouts and pundits and draft nicks they were talking about this draft, they said that this white kid might as might have as high and upside as anybody. And when you break down the film and when you look at the numbers with him a four seven seven forty, that's about a quarter of a second faster than what Kenny Clark rant coming out of u u c l A six years ago. Now he isn't as big as Kenny, but he's not

that far off. And he's the kind of guy that's going to be able to play basically any spot on the defensive front, in the defensive line, in any package. And ultimately, I think that's what Green Bay really needed, Mike. They had defensive linemen that could play in the early downs. They had defensive lineman who could play on third down, but unlike Clark and unlike Lowry, they didn't have somebody that could potentially just be on the field at any

given time. This allows them to get a deeper rotation going on the defensive line while also giving them the best middle of a defense that I think they've had over the last ten years. I mean, I think you would have to go back to two thousand and ten, when you know you had the Ryan Picketts and the b J Rajis and the Johnny Jollies with you know, Nick Barnett behind him, a J Hawk behind him, for the last time they've had a unit like this. So the kid's gonna need time to develop. He You're not

gonna be able to expect him to come in. Kenny Clark needed time back in two thousand and sixteen. But he's a great investment piece at a position in which the Packers hadn't invest in anything higher in than a third round pick since they drafted Clark six years ago. Right exactly. Well, the Packers also took three other players on the defensive side of the ball before this draft was over, the first one coming at the end of the fifth round. South Carolina Eds rusher Kingsley apparently goes

by j j angabari Um. Now this this is an interesting This is an interesting guy because he wasn't somebody who statistically jumped off the page in terms of one. But you look at what this young man did in the COVID shortened season in I believe it was eight games for South care Line. He had six sacks and three forced fumbles in eight games, and he was first

team All SEC that season. Now, he didn't stay there as first team SEC in one, of course, that's one heck of a league in college football, but he still was pretty solid in one. And the Packers and Vision envisioned this young man not only potentially to help on special teams with with with his body type and his speed, but at the edge rusher position. We had talked about it leading into the draft. You have Preston Smith, you

have Rashawn Gary. Those are your two starters. The Packers are looking for Randy Ramsey to come back from the injury that cost him all of last year. They have Jonathan Garvin, Ladarius Hamilton's and tipanale I, guys who have all shown something. They've all flashed something, and they've they've contributed here and there over the course of the last couple of years, but none of those guys has really established himself as as you know, a Mr. Reliable like Okay,

this guy's a bona fide proven NFL producer. Right, So Anabari gets he gets thrown into that competition right now for the number three and four outside linebacker spots in in new position coach Jason Rebrovitch's rotation, He's got a chance to to make some noise earlier. We'll see what happens. But but those three and four spots at edge rusher for the Packers are wide open as far as I

see it. Yeah, and it's gonna be a long season for me going Ignabari and then Rebrovitch back to back in terms of trying to make sure I make all those pronunciations happen. I'm sure. I'm sure that I've already

botched him a couple of times. But here's the thing, like, and I don't want to oversimplify this thing, but I really don't think in Kingsley's case that if this young man runs a forty that's maybe point one five seconds faster, I think you're looking at definitely a day two pick and maybe even bordering on, you know, round one, because he has everything else you want. Um As you mentioned, the production dipped a bit, but he is what you look for when you draw up a three four outside backer.

He has the size, he has the determination, and I think he's going to be able to hold up the edge with his strength. It did seem to be the slow forty time from from what was out there, that that maybe dropped him. That he was he was available all the way at the end of the fifth round. Yeah,

and and I'm not discounting that forties don't mean something. Certainly, you look at Rashawn Gary three years ago, uh that forty, Not that it's everything in his game, but you can see that explosivity and it does show up on the field. But it also they're not asking this guy to run routes, they're asking him to play football, and when you're looking about deepening out a rotation, I talked about George Carloftis

being a guy really had my eye on. I just felt like there needed to be somebody that they got in this draft that could give them a new option. A draft pick, a guy that has some potential, guy that has some accolades at the college level, and in the bar ig Nick Kingsley really gives you that persp active here. I'm really excited about the pick. I'm really looking forward to get a chance to meet him. He sounds like a really um, you know, affable kid, you know,

really interesting individual. So his personality obviously is indicative of that j J nickname. And I think you know when you when you're looking at for packers people and and guys that can come in and really gel with the locker room. I again, I don't know him, but just listen to him talk and learning a little bit about his story at South Carolina. He does seem like somebody

will fit in really well with Preston Smith and Rashaun Garry. Yeah. Well, then in the seventh round to other defenders who were added both of them where the term size uh jumps out at you. Trek Carpenter six ft three, two thirty pounds safety, maybe a hybrid safety linebacker type. And then also on Um Carpenter from Georgia Tech. And then on the defensive line Jonathan Ford thirty pound I believe six five if I remember correctly, six five, three thirty defensive

lineman from Miami. Carpenter certainly a guy that I think the Packers are looking at to see what he might be able to bring to special teams for the return and the coverage units with that, with that body type,

Ford is uh just another classic run plugger, right. I mean whether you whether you grab a guy like Tyler Lancaster is an undrafted free agent or a three thirty pound defensive lineman uh in you know, late in the seventh round of the draft, kind of the same, the same type of thing in terms of what you're looking for that guy to do. Can you move him? Is the question? And not? And obviously it's more it's bigger than that, and Jerry mccomill be the first one to

tell you that. But what I look at when I see Jonathan Ford is this is a man that if he gets his pad level where it needs to be, he is going to be, uh, just a roadblock for offensive lineman to be able to get off his spot

because he has everything. He has the size. You know, I think you look at his time, you know at Miami that the tackle numbers probably weren't as high as you think they would be for a guy that that's played in fifty games, started thirty games, but you know, as as good a consent after the draft, you know, he thinks this guy, even though he's a little bit older, still has his best football ahead of him, still has

some room to grow. And getting him in that line with those offensive linemen, uh, defensive lineman, excuse me, there's a lot of you know, determination and being able to really kind of figure out the next step there. I I think he's gonna learn a lot from that group. Carpet is a guy I'm really excited about because I think it goes beyond just the defense. Yes, six ft three two and thirty pounds, that's an interesting body type a lot, and I actually think his pro day kind

of wild some people. I mean, the kid didn't get a combined invite, but at his pro day, I mean I think he was running in the four fives. I mean he put up he put up some some intriguing numbers for a guy that could potentially be a linebacker. Um, the Packers are going to start him here at safety, but let's be honest. I mean, for a seventh round pick coming in here, his his first goal is going

to be special teams. And when you think about special teamers, Mike I wrote about this an Insider Inbox this week. On paper, this guy reminds me a lot of Sean Richardson and Shawn's a kid that he would have played in this league a lot longer than he did and had it not been for the neck injuries. But when the Packers signed him out of h Vanderbilt, he was the safety. When Casey Hayward was there, he was kind

of an afterthought. But at six ft two two twenty pounds, he brought them something on special teams because you can use that type of body type, that type of speed, and so many different capacities. Uh that That's what I'm looking for from Carpenter. Can he be that type of player, because if he can, there's a lot of money to be made in this league as far as that being your launching off point. Yeah, I thought the comp you

made with Richardson was was a good one. And you know, Richardson was an undrafted player and uh Carpenter, you know, a late seventh round guy. So I want to shift to the offensive side of the ball. But we'll take care of some sponsor business here. First, West Serious x M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the NFL news that true football fanatics need seven three

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out and spelling it. Yeah, Nigar nig Bari. On the offensive side, as we mentioned, the Packers obviously used their two first round picks on the defensive side of the ball.

They went into the second round of the draft on Friday night with picks at number fifty three and number fifty nine, and surprise, two picks into the action on Friday night, the Packers were on the board because Brian Goodacuts decided a package both of those second round picks in the fifties to move all the way up to number thirty four to select Christian Watson, the wide receiver out of North Dakota State. Your initial impressions of the move and the price the Packers paid to get this year?

You remember what I said in box last week? You had to edit it. You remember my line, I don't remember exactly. I liked him as a first round pick. I loved him as a second round back because I thought that's where the value was. And it's funny because we talked on this show about, you know, would the Packers trade to the thirty six spot, you know, high in the second round, which was the spot where they got Jordy Nelson. What would that be fourteen years ago now?

Jordy Nelson being drafted thirty six overall in two thousand and eight, but close enough, right, number thirty, number thirty four and the Packers once again draft a second round receive. And I've said this before, but I truly mean it. I feel like this guy, Christian Watson, was a lot more like those first six receivers that got taken in the top eighteen than the six that got taken immediately after him in the second round. He has everything you want.

Six ft four pounds, runs a four three six forty I think somewhere around thirty eight and a half inch vertical if I got that number right. The kid is an athlete. He scores above the off the arts. I think in terms of the receiver position, one of the most athletic receivers and players at the Packers have taken in the modern era. When you look at all of his scores. And here's the other thing. He is a fast climber and a kid that had a late growth spurt.

And I feel like this is going to be the type of player that's going to come into Green Bay is really going to benefit from the veteran leadership around him. North Dakota State. The guy was a big playmaker downfield target and there is a huge catch radius to work off of. Rome will not be built in a day.

We know how things go with receivers in Green Bay, but in terms of finally getting that prospect, I know, I know it wasn't a first rounder or whatever, but this kid has what you look for when you talk about the lineage of Randall cop Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, DeVante Adams in the second round, he has all the

measurables to be the next great one. Yeah. To me, it's interesting how this played out, and the fans have been asking an inbox you know, well, it sounds like the packers sure gave up a lot to get that thirty four pick and all of that, and that is certainly true. I mean, the trade charts say that the

Vikings won the trade. And but here's the thing, Brian Goodacunts knows that he knows what the numbers are going to say, right, So so how so how do you have I think what you have to do is you have you have to evaluate it from our outside perspective. To say that just tells you how much Brian Goodakuns liked this young man and wanted this young man to

be his receiver selection in this draft. I totally agree with you with what you said about the guys who were drafted in the first round, because there were six receivers taken in a span of eleven picks from number eight to number eighteen in the first round, those eleven picks, six receivers were taken. The Packers were there at twenty two. None of those top six guys fell to Green Bay at twenty two, and Goodacunts did not make a move up in order to get one. The Packers sat with

the two picks. In the fifties, we saw a handful of receivers get picked in the fifties, like right in that range. Goudacounts knew he could have gotten one of those guys and maybe even gotten two of them. Were gotten one of those guys and an extra player if he stays with his two picks in the fifties. He didn't want to do that. Why because he liked this guy as much as as much as he does. And I think that's I think that's how you have to look at it now. As you said, Rome won't be

built in a day. In terms of Christian Watson's NFL career in this Matt Lafleur offense with Aaron Rodgers and everything else, but This was This was the guy that the Packers had when those first six were gone by the eight pick. This was the guy the Packers had who was far and away the best receiver prospect in their minds and Brian Goodacoon's. He didn't care that the charts were gonna say he lost the trade to the

Minnesota Vikings. He wanted his guy. He was going to make sure that he got him and uh and and to get him in here with Al Lazard, Randall Cobs, Sammy Watkins and uh and see what he can do in this offense, not only in the beginning but over the course of time, because we all we've all seen what did Jordy Nelson do over time? What did Randall Cobb, What did Davante Adams do? None of those guys set

the world on fire as rookies. Necessarily, this guy, Christian Watson, is going to have the opportunity as a rookie that those other guys didn't have because of the way the receiver room was constructed when they arrived. The Packers are in a different place at wide receiver. He's going to have the opportunity to do both, to show what he can do as a young man and what he can do down the road. We know how we do three things with Larry right, I'm gonna give you three things

right now. Number one, if you mocked Christian Watson to the Packers in the first round at twenty two or you do not have a say. And if the Packers gave up too much to take him in the second round, I'm telling you that right now, there's been way too much of this. Did they give up too much for him? You guys wanted to take him at twenty two? How is that giving up too much for him? They got

to other prospects? Still? Okay? Moving on from that, this guy, Mike, in terms of the receiver position, when you ask about opportunities, you want opportunities coming in the National Football League for Christian Watson, the six returning veterans and the other two rookies that they took. They took that we'll talk about here momentarily. There's nine guys that are either been drafted in the NFL or played in NFL games right now on the roster. That is a golden opportunity. It's a

golden opportunity to make this fifty three. It's a golden opportunity to start week one. You play this game for chances to to solidify yourself, to prove yourself, to to show everybody you are what you personally believed you are.

There were a lot of years in Green Bay where you knew going into the season it's gonna be Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, James Jones, flip those two depending on what you're you're looking at, and then that's where a bulk of the eleven personnel, it's where a bulk of the snaps are going to go. If any young guy or you know, even a veteran plays well in training camp, looks good during the off season, program shows out during preseason, you're going to play this year and

that has to be motivating. If that doesn't motivate you, nothing well. Because as much as everybody wants to talk about the Packers don't have receivers whatever, this is a chance once that game one starts to game seventeen to show everyone that the Packers receiving corps is who they

thought they were. Well, and the Packers didn't stop there, of course, a wide receiver Brian goodakunst adding two more before the end of the draft, he gets Romeo Dobbs from Nevada in the fourth round, some more Toure from Nebraska by way of Montana in the seventh round. And both of these guys was really interesting prospects in my mind because certainly Dobbs and there was there's been all this confusion as to whether it's pronounced Dobbs or dubs

and apparently both. Yeah, he's actually fine with both because apparently Dubbs was kind of a name. Dobbs is what he says is the way it's supposed to be pronounced, but he really doesn't care either way, but not exactly, but anyway, so we'll go with Dobbs. But another guy with the size that the packers look for at the position right six ft two, about two hundred pounds. But

also the production was there. This is you know, yes it's the Mountain West Conference, not a Power five league, but back to back thousand yards seasons for this young

man out of Nevada. And then you look at tour A. He came originally from the FCS from Montana, where he had like off the chart numbers like four some yards, I mean, just had a decorated career for three years at Montana, then lost the season to COVID because the FCS schools did not play in So then he decides for one final year of eligibility to go to Nebraska to challenge himself in the Big Ten. And he produces.

He did produces on a Nebraska team to to UH to then you know, to raise his stock, raise his profile to where then he does get drafted in the seventh round as opposed to having to wait for um for a free agent contract. But um, but these two uh, these two receivers very interesting prospects. And I'm I'm really curious. I'm really curious about Dobbs because this is a guy that I'll be honest, I didn't really know much about. I hadn't paid that much attention to as many of

the receiver prospects in the middle rounds. But you look at what he did, you look at what he did in the college game, and you look at the size, speed combination, it seems like it's it's it's the kind of guy that that the Packers field can fit in pretty well. Yeah, and in the Mouth West Conference. I mean, it's a good brand of football. But for whatever reason, I don't know if it's because of the time change or what. We don't really get a chance to watch

a lot of it, you know. I mean I remember even when I was at Boise State was in its big runs, Like just trying to find a way to watch them was kind of difficult. So yeah, I can't lie to you either and sit here and tell you that I've watched a lot of at A wolf Pack football.

But when you do take a look again, like I said, I think I mentioned as an inbox around the show, when when these things get done, that's when I really do like to sit down and kind of not try to guess what GUDA constant scouts are gonna do, but try to start to understand why they did it. And and that's why with Dobbs it makes so much sense in terms of the guy. The guy hit the markers. I mean, obviously he's a fourth round pick, but his production,

that's no accident. I mean, this is a guy that really trusted his process in Nevada and then when it was time for him to be the lead dog, he did it, and he did it at extremely high level. Two Ray for a seventh round pick, is actually probably one of the more interesting players that I can remember the Packers taking because this is a guy that you don't really know what to think, you know, when guys

come out of the FCS. We just talked about it, you know, with with Watson too, you know there's a there's a difference in competition, but he did challenge himself. He went to Nebraska, he led the big ten nineteen point five yards per catch last seas and he was a big play target and they moved him all around. He's gonna probably be more of a slot guy here, but as we learned Mike, that's actually a huge opportunity for green Ban I mean, between the pre snap motions,

between the way that those guys can be utilized. Uh, and he's excited to get drafted. The third thing I was gonna say before and then I was gonna get ahead of myself because we hadn't talked about these two receivers yet is the Packers have only a handful of occasions over the last twenty years, have dived into a skill position group three times, and each time it's produced

some pretty good results. I mean, it was three day three picks in two thousand eighteen, but they did get Marcos Velda scantling out of the fifth round, which was a tremendous find. They did it three times on Day three and two thousand seventeen, and you ended up with Aaron Jones and obviously Jamal Williams. The greatest story of all is two thousand fourteen because they let it off with Davante Adams, and Adams ended up becoming one of the greatest receivers of team history. It's not a given

you're gonna hit on all three. It's not going to be a given you hit on any of them, but given yourself that many swings at the plate when you need a receiver, I they feel like that was a strong play here by the Packers, and the Packers also we had talked about it going into the draft, looking

for some depths, some competition along the offensive line. And for the third consecutive draft, Brian Goudacun selects three offensive lineman he gets h and all of these all of these individuals played left tackle primarily to finish their college careers. And I'm talking about Sean Ryan from u C. L A, who was chosen in the third round on Friday Night, and then two picks on Saturday, Zack Tom from Wake

Forest and Rashid Walker from Penn State. Now, the interesting thing is with the first two of these guys, for sure, with Ryan and with Tom, there's there's positional versatility, a lot of a lot of analysts saying that Sean Ryan might be a better fit at guard in the NFL than at tackle where he played in college. And Tom a guy who actually played a lot of different spots, including including center or in his in his college career.

It sounds like Walker is is more of a tackle and that's his spots, sort of like Josh Niman when they brought him in as an undrafted player a few years ago, nobody was really talking about him playing guard, like this guy is, this guy's a tackle. But what the Packers are setting up here is it's it's going to be I think some interesting competition along the offensive line. We had talked about sort of how things looked heading

into the draft. But to me, you know, yes, Yosh Naiman I think would be the front runner to start at right tackle, but one of these guys might be able to push him compete with them. We'll see, you know, we'll see how that shakes out. And with the versatility of guys like Ryan and Tom. Maybe one of them challenges at a guard spot for either Royce Newman or

John Runyon. I think John Runyon is maybe a little more solidified at left guard than Newman is at right guard, based on the way last season ended where Runyan was playing in the playoffs and when Josh Meyers came back at center and they moved Lucas Patrick over to right guard, and then Newman became the sixth man for the postseason. But I think there's going to be some interesting competition here. Now. I would still say the guys who have played in

the NFL are your front runners. They're the guys that you would think would hold onto those spots. But when we were doing this show last year, after the Packers drafted Royce Newman out of Mississippi in the fourth round, I don't think either one of us was sitting here saying, oh, yeah, that fourth round pick out of Mississippi, he's gonna be starting at right guard in Week one, right. Well that's how it played out. So we just don't know how this is going to go. But the Packers got got

some big guys up front. The um for the depth that they needed based on, you know, having lost Billy Turner, Lucas Patrick, not resigning Dennis kelly Um. You know, the Packers lost a lot of experience on the offensive line in this offseason, and they're they're refortifying that depth chart one, two three Brian Goodkin set afterwards. It's about trying to find your starting five, and with these moves that Green Bay made, they give themselves a bevy of options to

do that. You talked about last year, not thinking that Roy Snum would be playing as much. We didn't know that Elton Jenkins was gonna end up being at left tackle. We didn't know that when Jenkins went down, it was gonna be Yosh Niman eight starts at left tackle. There were so many things that I don't think you could have prepared for last season that it reiterated why you need to have contingency plans. They lost Josh Myers for eleven games. Luckily for them, they had put all that time,

that sweat equity into developing Lucas Patrick as a center. Well, when Patrick leaves, now you've got to find guys who could potentially play center, especially with Jenkins still on the mend. That's where you look at a guy like Zack Tom coming in, a guy that has that in his back pocket. Yeah, maybe doesn't have the traditional, you know, type of size you look for in there, but his athleticism. Again, this is becoming a common thread here is off the charts.

Him and Ryan their verticals were the two highest of anyone at the NFL scouting combine. Yeah, three pound guys putting up like thirtys vertical jumps. That's better than some receivers in this draft. Yeah, that's hard. It's hard for me to even to even picture that quite Frank. I mean, it's pretty remarkable what those guys were able to achieve. So, I mean that's explosiveness, that's power. It's being able to

get underneath the shoulder pads of your opponent. I'm excited for them, and honestly, I'm excited for this entire group because Packers hope they're going to get in knock On Wood, will get Elton Jenkins back at some point this season. They want that to be a really difficult decision where Elton plays once he's back. You hope everything turns out well with David box tr As you know, Brian goodenkods has said he thinks that everything is going to be

fine in that regard. He'll be good to go for training camp and we can get this train back on the tracks. But they have so many guys, Mike, that have played so many different positions, and I can't remember the last time they've had what eight nine guys on a roster who have all been draft picks, because you talked about them taking three straight draft was drafts with three straight offensive linemen and they're all basically here. Still, it's gonna be really interesting to watch Matt Lafleur and

his coaching staff Adam Stanovich as offensive coordinator. Luke Buckers says the offensive line coach. They would love nothing better then for the day that Elton Jenkins is back from his knee injury and is ready to play, that it's not obvious where he should play right because they have they've they've established the depth they have their guys. Elton Jenkins is going to play when he's ready to play because he's a pro bowler and he can be a

pro bowler at a number of different positions. But if it's not an easy call, that's gonna be a good thing. I get a kick out of this too, because you're absolutely right about, Hey, where does this guy measure up? Should he move inside? Like it's funny you go back eight years ago, nine years ago, they were thinking David Box was gonna be a center. Not the Packers, but some scouts haven't pegged as a center. You never know

until you know. But the thing that Green Bay has done such an exceptional job at is they let him go out there and figure it out. Royce Newman ended up he wasn't lining up at right guard earlier in training camp. Use that right tackle behind Billy Turner. Yeah, we're I was. I was writing about Newman in the spring because when he was drafted it was okay, he's a guard tackle prospect. And when I was writing about him in the spring and like, oh, it looks like

Newman is gonna get his first shot at tackle. Well by the time by the time training camp rolled around and things really got going into the preseason, it's like, oh, this guy's got a chance to start at guard as as a rookie and week one on a Super Bowl contender. So you just don't You just never know. It's called football. You have to figure it out, all right. Well, We've run pretty long for today. Our producer Marv is gonna be mad at me, but anyway, we'll sign off from here.

We'll talk a little bit more about the draft on our next show, but for now, that's a wrap on Packers Unscripted for West I Am Mike. All kinds of coverage of the draft if you didn't see what we did over the weekend, and credit to all of our team at packers dot com. The video guys are are interns, all our technical people. There is so much out there on these draft picks on packers dot com. Be sure to check it all out. And with that, thank you for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.