#651 Packers Unscripted: Digging into the draft

Like that? Right? I mean, here we go? Right? The Packers enter the this three day drafting extravaganza with eleven picks, and the eyes are really on the top of this draft for the Packers because Green Bay, as a result of the Davante Adams trade to the Raiders. The Packers have two first round picks two second round picks. The numbers are two and twenty eight in the first round, fifty three and fifty nine in the second round. Um, this could be a draft unlike one we have seen

in Green Bay for quite some time. My friend, March eighteen, two thousand twenty two, I was walking into Barnes and Nobles somewhere in Green Bay. I assume you were getting a foot massage. That's when the reports came out that Davante Adams was going to be traded. And and here's the thing, Michael, since that moment and since the time in which it was made official, I might have botched it. It It might have been March eighteenth that it was

actually made official. March seventeenth report came out. Since the time that that was made official, the question has been, so, what are the Packers going to do in this draft? They have four picks in the top fifty nine, the first time since the merger that that's ever happened. If they end up picking in those spots, they have obvious needs at multiple positions, but maybe not so much so that it's like, Okay, well they have to take a

certain player at this spot. But there's so many areas that have made this a compelling draft, from the proce specs involved, to the fact that it's been twenty years since the Packers have drafted receiver since their in the first round, the fact they have guys replaced on the offensive line the defensive line, and that has created this cloud of really questions that we've been seeing an insider inbox that we've seen on Twitter, and everybody has had

an opinion on what the Packers should do. Well, Michael, in two days time, at the time in which we're taping this, we will finally get some answers. Yeah. Well, it's interesting you go back to that, to the moment that Davante Adams was traded and at that time, and this is interesting when you talk about exactly what are

the Packers needs? Right, because at the time that Adams was traded, if you had said, okay, what are what are the Packers biggest needs in this draft, everybody would have said, obviously wide receiver on the offensive side and defensive line. Right. But then, in as we talked about on our last show, in classic typical Brian Gudacount's fashion, what does he do between the start of free agency and the draft. He signs Jared need a veteran to

come in on the defensive line. He signed Sammy Watkins, a veteran to come in and help out at wide receiver, putting him in a position with all this draft capital at the top of the draft, putting him in a position where he doesn't have to say, all right, on Thursday night, I have to get a receiver. I have

to get a defensive lineman. Because, as we mentioned on our last show, if the Packers had to play a game on May one, they have the players to go and play the game, right He, Brian Gudukins is always going to make the draft about the future investment, not necessarily here. He doesn't force himself into pain himself into the corner, so to speak, of the draft having to be about the here and now and about week one

of the upcoming season. So that's where we are. When I look at when I look at the Packers and roster needs in this draft, I break them down into into sort of two tiers. To me, the top tier is it's still wide receiver and defensive line, I think, but also offensive tackle and then edge rusher. Offensive tackle. If, as we talked about previously, if the Packers going with David Bactieri at left tackle, Yash and I'm in at right tackle, You're still gonna need somebody to back up

those spots. You want to have a young, developing player who could fill in if if injuries were to strike again. Edge rusher, the Packers have Rashaan Gary and Preston Smith, but who do they have after that? There are a lot of question marks, a lot of unproven players. Maybe you draft, uh, you know, invest a high, high pick in this draft to fortify the edge rusher position. So those are the four spots for me that are that are sort of like the tier one of the roster needs.

But then also safety, cornerback, inside linebacker, tight end. I think all of those are also in play for the Packers, maybe not necessarily in the first round, but certainly come Friday nights starting in the second round, I think those

those positions coming to play. My point is that the way this sets up for Brian gutacoons at this point with the four picks in the top sixty, they're aside from taking a quarterback or running back or a specialist, no position drafted within those top four picks that he has would necessarily surprise me based on how the Packers are currently constructed, because I think what you outline there is the fact that Green Bay has a certain amount of needs that I think a lot of that was

brought on by the changes this offseason. Davante Adams trade, so Darius Smith being released, um not having another guy and another Shawn Gary kind of hand picked in that role behind Billy Turner being released. Right, So I mean like there there are areas where they lost, but by and large, they have depth at all these positions. The way that this roster is fortified, there are bodies at all these positions. Cornerback, you have a you have three

guys you put up probably against anybody's safety. Adrian Amos Darnell Savage are going to be together for their fourth straighte year. That rarely happens in the NFL. So from that perspective, it is about building depth. But what makes it so compelling is the fact that there are five picks in the first two days that Green Bay is slated to make. Right now, there are four picks in the top fifty nine that they are slated to make.

And we saw what happened in two thousand nineteen when Green Bay had two picks, and the what you know, the ways in which Brian Goodukins can move around. Depending on how the board falls, somebody's going to fall, Mike, one of these receivers, maybe one of the edge rushers, maybe a safety we've even seen, you know, maybe an inside linebacker, maybe even a defensive lineman. Just because you just don't know that this this draft feels as unpredictable as any that we've entered in a long time. And

it's not because well, that player isn't good enough. It's because I think there really is a wide array of talent that's all kind of pretty much the same outside of that top six or seven players. The real question also becomes how many quarterbacks get taken before the Packers

go on the board at twenty two. There aren't going to be as many as these past few years, but those quarterback spots ultimately are the ones that end up leading to a skill position player falling or a defensive lineman falling again, enhancing the options for the Packers once they go on the board. Yeah, well in talking about some of these some of these positions of need, and we will just have to see how the draft falls. And also with regard to Gouda, Counston has options with

the draft capital that he has. I mean, he could move up, he could move down, he could do both within both Thursday night and Friday night. There's no way of knowing exactly how this is going to go. But with regard to the wide receiver position, that's the one everybody wants to talk about. Is there a guy or guys that that might have struck your fancy here as as this draft has gotten close. The cool thing is Mike.

The more you dive into it, the more you like basically all these options in the top fifty, um because every single one of them offers something different. If you want a six foot guy like Chris Lave that isn't your typical type of receiver that Green Bay has drafted, or you know Christian Watson, you know, you have the George Pickens kid that you know everyone knows about guys that have a little bit more size. You're the one,

and I've joked about it, but it's actually true. You're the one that drove the Traylon Burkes you know train and that whistle caught my attention to because the more you see this kid and the more you realize what he did at Arkansas and how they turn things around this season, he seems more and more to me like a Green Bay Packer type player. The question is whether

or not he's there at twenty two. And the thing that that that's gonna have to get decided before the Packers probably even remotely on near the clock, is Jamison Williams is a team willing to take him with the A C. L. Concerns, does he go tend you know, as some people have mocked him to the Jets. Yeah.

It's funny because because when when he toward the A c L in the National Championship Game and in the early stages after that, it was like, oh, maybe Jamison Williams, you know, will be there at the top of the second round for somebody you know, And then then it was like, oh, well, yeah, these teams at the bottom of the first round. You know, the Packers have these two picks, they have a need at wide receiver. Maybe they would take Jamison Williams, even though he wouldn't obviously

be ready to go right away as a rookie. The more time has gone on, the more Jamison Williams has climbed up to the spot, or at least much closer to the spot in the draft where he would where he would be getting picked if he had never gotten hurt. Um. I think the only the question is he's probably not going to be the first receiver off the board, which he most likely would be if he hadn't gotten hurt.

But it sure doesn't sound like he's going to last much past the maybe the four or fifte pick or something. Like that, whereas a couple of months ago there was there there was a whole different narrative with regard to where Jamison Williams might available. So the question natually becomes where is Williams fall. I think Drake, London and Wilson will both be off the board by they get to

that point. I just feel the reason I bring up Williams is I feel like that's gonna be the one that really decides how far Burke's falls, because I think once that that wage starts with the receivers, I think that's going to carry through a little bit um and then you look a little bit farther down. I really love the sky More kid, in addition to having a

fantastic name. You know, there's some questions about with him and Watson, the competition uh involved in that, but but certainly I think he's another guy doesn't have the traditional size Green Bay looks for. But I just I love the way he performed. They've had success in the past, obviously with Western Michigan recruits. And then I just got to give the shout out to the kid Alec Pierce from Cincinnati. He's probably gonna end up being a date two three ish type pick out of Cincinnati, but one

he has the common bond there with Matt Lafleur. There's a lot of connections on that Cincinnati staff to La Floor. They've already dipped into that well before with Josidae Iguara. But the kid loves the Packers, So I mean, you can't ever go wrong with the guy that you know. I think he grew up in whatever it was, Illinois, but yet we grew up a Packers fan. Just a remarkable backstory edition to the fact that he has some

of those type of attributes that Green Bay likes. Yeah, it's interesting for for those who have been following the ore Our Prospect Primer series that we've been doing for the for the past month on the website and obviously and if you've been following inbox. I've said, and I'm not saying this as a as a scout, as a talent evaluator. I'm just talking as the as as the the interested observer, right who looks into these things a little bit. The two receivers in this draft that for

whatever reason, they they've struck my fancy. As I like to say, our Traylon Burks from Arkansas and Christian Watson from North Dakota State. I just I I like the bigger receivers. Burks is six to two twenty five, Yet at two twenty five he ran a four five five in the forty. Now, yes, he's not a four three burner like a crystal lava or a gar. That's not the way they build things here either over there, right, But but at tuner in twenty five pounds of four

or five five is not exactly slow. Christian Watson six pounds, Now, he did run in the four threes, So this is a This is a taller guy, rangier guy, who also does have the speed. What I'm what what I'm curious about though, as you mentioned with Burke's will he be there at twenty two or is he going to go sooner than that? Um? I think that could that could certainly go either way. With Watson, I start to wonder the more I read about it, is is drafting him

in the first round a little bit too rich? But then with the packers not picking until fifty three fifty nine in the second round, is he going to be there at the end of the second round? I think that becomes a big question mark, UM, Because it's because it seems that he's maybe a bottom of the first round guy, but more likely a top half of the second round guy. And then he's not there, uh in the fifties. If the packers are waiting for him to drop that, do you know who? He reminds me of?

Not not from a makeup standpoint, This reminds me of Jordy Nelson, because if if they get a two or twenty eight, I'm not saying he's gonna I think he's gonna be a good pro. But you wonder about the value the packers had with those two second round picks. I mean with the math I was doing with all these picks they have Brian Goodkin's depending regardless of what happens on on Thursday night, he can do anything he

wants in the second round. They can go up into the top three of the second round if they want to. With with pairing up some of these picks, That's where it gets interesting with me with Watson. If that's a guy that you can take at thirty five or thirty six, I really like that value. And and it's not to take anything away n D s U is one of the pre eminent powers in that division of football. They've won how many national championships over the last twenty years.

But that's the only thing holding me back from it. It's just this game is different, and in playing at that level and creating separation is different. It's when you have options like Burke's, when you have options like Pickings. These guys have played in the SEC. They've seen the very best that college football has to offer. That's why to me, a lot of dbs who are going to have their names called this weekend. Yeah, no, I hear you. I I hear exactly. I love him too. He has everything.

He's how you draw it up if you're creating a player on Madden. He has everything you wanted a receiver. It's funny, though, that you had mentioned You mentioned Jordy Nelson pick thirty six from two thousand eight, and it's funny that you had mentioned that because for all this talk about, are are the Packers going to draft a wide receiver in the first round for the first time

since two thousand and two with Javon Walker. Packers have had such a great track record of success with second round draft picks Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Greg Jennings Randall

cob Right who was the highest. The highest pick of those second rounders was Jordy Nelson at thirty six and almost the I don't know whether you'd want to call it the big coincidence or the big irony or whatever, but if Brian Goodakun's trades to the thirty six spot to take a wide receiver, that would that would almost like put a bow on this entire discussion we've been having UM for the entire offseason. UM. Before we get to some other positions, I do want to take care

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We believe in better all right, I want to get some of your thoughts west On On guys, just guys you've looked at or you're curious about, both on the defensive line and at the edge rusher spot. UM, because uh, I know in discussions that we've had a guy that I really like on the defensive line, though again I don't know if he's going to be there. Is Devonte Wyatt from Georgia. There are these, you know, three guys

on that defensive front from Georgia. Trayvon Walker's being talked about is possibly the number one overall pick now ahead of both Thibodeaux and Hutchinson, the the the edge rushers from Oregon and Chigin respectively. So Trayvon Walker mic go number one. There's Jordan Davis, the three forty pound you know, run stuffing nose tackle who ran a sub four eight forty at three forty pounds at the combine, which was which was stunning, but with whyatt, Why it's three hundred

four pounds. He's not a small guy, and yet his forty time was very similar to Jordan Davis. Now, running a four seven seven forty three four pounds is no is no easy trick. So he's a guy that I've had that I've had my eye on, But again, will he be there at at twenty two for the packers to be able to jump on him. I don't know another one that I did a prospect primer on Travis Jones from Yukon UM six ft four three pounds. You know,

you kon again. There's that competition level and this is a guy that's maybe being talked about more in the second round. But will he last all the way towards the end of the second round. It's really hard to say. But yet at the Senior Bowl, the offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl voted him the toughest guy that they faced in the drills all week long. So that says something about, you know, the the pedigree that he has, even with all the questions about I'm coming from Yukon

as opposed to a Power five conference. So those two guys, Davante Wyatt Travis Jones, those are those are two that I have my eye on on the defensive. It's actually Travis Jones is the one that started to make me look more into the defensive line and kind of shifted my thought to that seems like that's a position they could potentially take on Day two. That's a position that maybe in the second round. And trust me, man, the

every position is a gamble. It's a big gamble. Once you start to move back on defensive lineman because you're you're starting to lose some of the attributes that you're you're looking for in three down players, you're Kenny Clarks of the world. That's why, in my mind, I mean, Jordan Davis won't be there, so it really has centered on Wyatt and if why it is there at two or twenty eight, if they want to take him there, I see a out of those carryover type attributes with

Wyatt that we saw in Kenny Clark in six team. Yeah, that's that's kind of That's kind of where I am in the transition that they've made during that time with their defensive lineman. He seems to fit the bill a little bit more for what Green Bay is looking for. If why it's there, I like that pick, I like his pedigree, I like what they've accomplished at Georgia last year. And then if he's not, then I mean there's right now what Mike CBS Sports has eight nine different guys

that can be on day two at that position. Looking at edge is where I fell in love with George Carl loft Is And you've been talking about the Purdue, the Purdue edge rusher for a while now. I've missed on some of these guys, these guys that have unique back stories on the defensive line. I mean it's not it's not always cut and dry here. You're taking a little bit of a risk um with Karl Loftus and what he's going to be able to provide at the next level. Certainly, you were the first one to point

out to me last year at Purdue. Once the adjustments were made, then his production kind of depth a little bit, once teams started ice sewing on him a little bit. But what do we always talk about. We talked about when you're at the end of the first round, you are looking for eight to ten year NFL football players with a Pro Bowl type ceiling, but maybe not guaranteed.

Karl Offtis checks that box for me, because as much as you want Preston Smith to play of the snaps and as much as I thought Russian Gary last year showed that he can handle a full starting complement of reps, they need someone to bround out that rotation. Yeah, and Karl loftis the first report I read on him. I wish I could remember who did it, because it was a great scouting report. They drew the comparison to Ryan care again, and I see that in him. You wish

he was just maybe an inch or two taller. You wish he had maybe a year or two more experience on a playing defense. You know, he's a guy that came over with his mom, his dad passes away, um and and starts playing football at a late age. But my goodness, when you turn on the film of him at Purdue, and you and I even talked about it, how often has there been an elite Perdue edge rusher that we can recall there? There haven't been a lot

of them. There's just some much to like about the kid, and the Packers do have indeed there at edge rushing to me now that Jared Reid is in a Packers uniform,

maybe even more so than on the defensive. Yeah, and when you look at when when you look at the film on Karl loftus as much as you know, um, as you mentioned in our previous discussion about how yes, his production dropped off his his last year at Perdue, but the guy was I mean, the guy was double teamed and triple team because because he was the one guy on the Purdue defense that everybody game plan for.

And let's be honest, it was the Purdue defense. There wasn't There wasn't a whole lot for uh for other Big ten offenses to have to worry about. And yet in the midst of all that, George Karloftus was still a high impact player because of the way teams had

to try to deal with him. And and that's what's on the film, and that's why even though he didn't have that final year in college with fifteen seventeen sacks or whatever, that he's still being talked about very much as a first round pick and a guy that again I've seen projections where maybe he goes in the top fifteen, other projections where he's there not only at twenty two, but maybe even at twenty eight towards the end of the first round, if the if the Packers are so

inclined in that respect. Another guy similarly that I've seen projected kind of all over the board, a little bit higher maybe than karl Loftus. But when I started doing the prospect primers and looking at guys who back in March, we're being projected as as back half of the first round. Jermaine Johnson, the edge rusher from Florida State, it was there were there were all sorts of places where he was being slotted anywhere from you know, sixteen down to

twenty five or twenty seven something like that. But now, all of a sudden, as we've gotten closer to the draft, it seems like Jermaine Johnson is being talked about more as as a top fifteen, if not even a top twelve pick in this draft. And as much as I think Brian Goodkin certainly has the ability to move around and to move up if he wants to, I'm not sure if I see Gouda Kun's if he does make a move up in the first round, I'm not sure if I see him making a move up, say into

the top twelve. Like to me, the the first dozen picks, I think you're going to go by, and I don't really see the packers getting all that involved. But once you get to pick like thirteen or fourteen or fifteen, if Goodakoons has his eye on somebody who's still there, who's not picked in the in the top twelve, that's where I could see the phones really start to buzz and and say, hey, okay, what's what's it going to cost? What's it worth? Too? To go up and get this guy.

And I'm not saying that they would make that move for Jermaine Johnson. It could be for a wide receiver, it could be for a defensive lineman whatever. But um, but again, it's it's a position that the Packers have to start not only having that rotation as you mentioned, for now, but also looking toward uh, looking toward the future. You'd love to get the next Rashaan Gary in this draft if you can, right yea. And I think the point you're aching there that I think is really astute

is that that's where it's gonna get really interesting. Of what's on the board at fifteen sixteen. The spots where it's not going to take a lot to potentially move up were compared to, you know, trying to get into the top twelve. Right where where where if good Kuntz wants to move up, he doesn't have to give up the second first round pick. It's more of like, Okay, I'm gonna trade one of the second rounders to move

up a half dozen spots or something like that. And Johnson's a guy, Mike, I completely wrote him off in terms of what we were looking at as far as the Packers potentially you know, uh, drafting just because I didn't think he'd be there, and he may not. He may not even be anywhere close to twenty two, but a CC defensive Player of the Year, you know, twelve sacks last season. Kid was born. You know, he's born from Minnesota. I mean eat in prayer, I mean he's

he has the local ties there too. Uh. And that's where this is going to get interesting, because now the Packers have to start weighing guys that could be a Rashawn Gary where it's like he may not start right away, he may not play five snaps right away, but look at what that investment in Gary three years ago has done for them now with having to move on from Zadarius Smith because of the back and the money, and now you have a guy that I think you feel

really good about going into the season with compared to Okay, we need to have a receiver in this room. That's where the questions start to come up a little bit. Yeah, the other one I think at edge rusher. That's going to be interesting to see what happens. Um is Uh is David O. Jbo If I'm saying the last name correctly. The guy from Michigan who unfortunately blew out his achilles on Michigan's pro day, and that's obviously, you know, going to damage his draft stock. But then the question is

how far how far does he fall? Um? You know, maybe somebody still takes him late in the first round, maybe he's still there all the way late in the second round, where the Packers would go, Okay, yeah, we're not going to be able to expect much because of that injury, you know here as a rookie. But um,

you know, but is this guy worth Um? You know that it's it's it's not quite the same injury situation as Jamison Williams, that wide receiver that we talked about, but yet there's some similarity in that there's just there's so much uncertainty as too, as to how teams are going to value a player like that that if if there were a completely clean bill of health, you know, the players being valued here, But because of the health questions, there are all sorts of different opinions as to as

to exactly what it's worth in this draft to to to get that. And so many times, Mike, it really does seem like when you have an elite prospect that is coming off a devastating injury, more often than not, they're able to make it back. I think back to Miles Jack you know, with Jacksonville number of years ago, where people are like, you know, they weren't sure if this kid's gonna be able to play in the NFL based on that injury he had, and then there he was.

I mean, obviously Jalen Smith went through that, Willis mcgahey at the running back position. Those things do happen. The thing that's different about this young man that I feel for him is the pro day aspect of it. You're seeing these videos already at Williams. I mean, he's already running and cutting and all these things because he's so far out now, three or four months out. And then it's different when it happens in a protey because now

it really does legitimately throw the rookie year in the question. Yeah, it was, it was. It's right, it's right up against the it's right up against the draft as opposed to an injury from January. And this is completely unfair to him. But it's weird that we've actually gotten to the point now where receiver tears as a c L and it's not really a huge deal breaker for me anymore. You

feel like they can make it back from that. There's something about that darn Achilles though, that always kind of makes my stomach rumble, just because you're never too quite sure, because it's not just about them coming back, it's what is it taking out of the explosivity of the athlete. And and that's that's one thing too. You've got a kind of monitor that's a pretty devastating injury in addition from the pain aspect, but also the rehab. Yeah, well, before we go, I want to get your thoughts on

any any names regarding offensive lineman, specifically offensive tackles. Yeah, because I think that's a that's certainly a position the Packers are going to be looking very very strongly at. Um. We're talking before we turn the cameras on about the Central Michigan Bernard Bernhard Raymond. Hopefully I'm saying that correctly. Um, originally from Austria, comes over to the United States, UM as a foreign exchange student. Originally, if I'm not mistaken,

Um ends up ends up taking up football. UM goes back to his home country, but then comes back to America to play college football, starts out as a tight end, gets converted from tight end to offensive tackle, and the question, the question with with this young man is because of you know, because of his his background and just how things developed and converting from tight end, there's a um, there's a lot of excitement as to just how good he might be because he's barely getting started, right, But

now we're also hearing some things just as the draft is approaching that there might be some there might be something popped up on a medical scan or something like that. So just where this offensive tackle from Central Michigan is going to go and how teams are valuing him, I think is going to be interesting to why. Yeah, I love that aspect of the tight end position because I

think there's a lot to be said for that. You're seeing that more and more to uh, specifically in these kind of situations, not not with the foreign exchange, but in terms of a MAX school that they get a guy, they feel really good about him as an athlete, they get him in there and it's like, Okay, well maybe this guy could be the way he's developing, maybe you

could be an offensive lineman. And I like what that tight end position sometimes teaches those kids because there is it happens a lot more than you think in terms of guys that end up making that switch. Certainly, again, we have to see it just came out and I don't know how credible the reporting is on it. But it's another thing. It's it's these these things that will

kind of pop up. We think these things that pop up in the last forty eight seventy two hours before the draft that that it's like you wonder, okay, is there some truth to it? Is? Is it? Is it just something completely off the mark? Is it maybe not as bad as it's being reported, Like we really we really don't know. But with regard to the Packers, we know we know the first you know, three or four offensive tackles in this draft are gonna get taken very

very high. They aren't. They aren't really in range for the Packers unless Brian Gudukums decides to make a major major move. Um, So those guys, those guys are are you know, projected to go in the top you know, eight, nine, ten picks of this draft. But there's a there is a group of offensive tackles that expected to be available in the back half of the first round. I think Raymond is one of them. Tyler Smith from Tulsa is another one. I was talking to Larry about him because

Larry did the Prospect Primer video on him. And you know, Tyler Smith six pounds, he just turned twenty one years old. Um he Larry Larry described him as a maller. He's an absolute maler of an offensive lineman. But incredibly raw um green as grass as they say, as far as you know the technique, the refinement, the past blocking part of things. So a really intriguing prospect there who's probably going to be available um in uh in the latter half of the first round. But again, a twenty one

year old. That just how high is the ceiling? And that's what that's what the scouts get paid for, right to try to figure out how much these guys are potentially worse. And it's weird because you look at those guys up front, a lot of a lot of sec kids, some some big ten kids. It's these guys in the back that it's just their their backgrounds are all over

the place. I mean, you talk about Smith being from Tulsa, Trevor Penning, you know, the big kid from northern Iowa if you would put him on Iowa not or than IWA, no disrespect Northern Iowa Greade School, but like I'd be like, this is the Packers type of pick. And you look at his pedigree, his background, what he played in college, the level at which he played it in that size mike six ft seven three or twenty pounds, everything you look for. I don't know how this kid ended up

over there at an FCS school. I love everything about him and then my favorite it and I think you even know who I'm gonna say here, Daniel Fallele from Minnesota six eight pounds. I mean, they just don't build humans like this. But it's one thing to be that big, it's another thing to be able to play to that way. Now, Minnesota kept him on the right side. I think that's where he's gonna end up here in the pros. And and maybe you know there's some stuff, you know, conditioning wise,

depending on which direction they want to go. But he's a guy that you think, you see a guy that big and you're thinking, Okay, you're just gonna be able to speed past this kid. He knows how to move in within his body and and being able to play at Minnesota and seeing big ten competition. I'm really excited

about this kid. And to me, when you asked me to start looking through the offensive lineman and start getting my names together for guys that could potentially be there at the end of the first round, he's one of the ones I'm most excited about, just because I think that ceiling with him and potentially what he could become is really special. Yeah, seems like seems like there's heading into this draft, the wide receiver position seems fairly deep, which has been which is how it's been for a

few years now. Seems like there's maybe a little more depth at the defensive line position than we've seen in recent drafts. And UM and you don't often see UH offensive tackles UH quality first round offensive tackles last until the latter stages of the first round. But I think some of them, some of them in this draft are going to be there. There's a really intriguing draft for the big guys and UH and I think the Packers have a need to to stock up a little bit

on both sides with regard to the big guys. And that's and that's gonna be the interesting thing to see how these dominoes fall. The Packers are picking eleven times in this draft, I think, the most picks that they have set up for going back to maybe two thousand thirteen. There are a number of different areas they can address, but there's also a lot of flexibility to when you have to first, two seconds, the third, the fourth. The only pick that the only time they're not picking right

now is a six round oh one. On the other side of it, they have three in the seven. So the the amount of flexibility that Brian is going to have in this draft is unequal to anything he's seen, including when he had the two first and two thousand nineteen.

So that that's why I think that the three days, especially depending on what happens on Night one, it's going to be as edge of the seat as it gets for NFL Packers drafts, because really anything outside of the top ten is in play, depending on how they want to partner those picks, if they want to move around a little bit. Oh and then, by the way, now veteran A, B, and C is being potentially attached to Green Bay two, could there be a trade on that

aspect of it? Get your popcorn ready, folks, It is going to be a wild three days, absolutely, and with that we will call it a rap. On this edition of Packers Unscripted, be sure to follow all of our coverage of the team, all of our coverage of the draft. We've got everything for you Thursday, Friday, Saturday, stories, videos, commentary, all of it, instant reactions. If you want to be following the draft live, stay on our website. West and Larry and I are going to be talking about these

picks as soon as they're made. We're going to have it all for you on packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We'll see you next time.