DIY Mishaps and Deep Insights on Love and Life

Welcome to Oversharing with Overbys . I'm Jo .

And I'm Matt .

And each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voice mails , go in depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you .

With that being said , let's get to oversharing .

I'd like to start today's episode by talking about the beef I have with the Amazon . OK , tell me about your beef with Amazon I don't understand why every time when I select I don't want to use a gift card when purchasing something from your Kindle storefront that it always applies your freaking gift card .

I bet there's a checkbox that you're just not doing .

Well then there are multiple checkboxes , which is just ridiculous .

Yeah , I mean , I guess so .

I don't want to support Amazon , and so I don't want to have two separate Amazon accounts , just to prevent this . But you get so bothered , and that's understandable , because you're accumulating your credit and then I'm spending it on books that I'm never going to read .

I don't think that's relevant . Well , if I was going to read him , then it might be relevant .

Not really . I think so Because you want to use your credit how you want to use it . Now I guess , now that I'm thinking about it , you have worked like with me and not at a corporate job , for what I'm here in a half now . So I guess anything that we are accumulating on Amazon I technically am paying for .

Oh yeah , I don't really care necessarily about that side of it , It's that . I understand that , yeah , you've never been upset with me .

You've always been nice . You're always just like are you spending ?

I'm concerned that they pre-credited me for a trade in that like I'm not sure I'm even going to do at this point .

So I don't know how that's going to work .

When I don't send stuff , probably , we just have to . Probably , you feel me ? I guess , yeah , we'll have to pay for it .

Yeah , which I guess we're in the same boat where we started $10 and 62 cents .

Yeah , my bad .

Just to disclose our finances publicly .

That I spent $10 and 62 cents . I did All right . What's new this week ?

Well , i mean , we're getting ready for a road trip , so that's daunting .

I'm nervous .

Yeah same . I'm not positive that we're going to crush the packing phase , slash prep phase .

So I'm nervous about the way home .

You're nervous ? Okay , tell me more .

More than the way there .

So after we've gotten eight days through the trip , that's what you're worried about . Yeah , why ?

Because the the now I feel dumb .

You're making me It sounds dumb , but I'm willing to listen .

We have less of a plan on the way home . It drives a lot longer .

We literally have a break planned , and not quite the middle , but the late middle .

It's not in the middle , babe .

Okay , the 30 quarter point .

It's like 13 hours to our break .

Well , that's two thirds , that's not even bad .

Okay .

Uh , that's a , that's a one day haul that's going to be a like , not fun , but then we're going to get there on our way .

I like we go through places where I know people and like I'm familiar . On our way home , we just go through North Dakota for like a whole day .

Yeah , yeah , and then we cut probably through South Dakota .

Yeah , and it just , i don't know anybody , but I guess you do .

I don't know anybody , that's fine , like we don't know , like we might know people on the way when we go places , but we don't stop knowing people's comforting to me .

Okay , like it's a thing that if something happened , my family , see , like just gets you a little roll of decks of people in North Dakota and little thoughts of where we know everyone .

Yeah , Like you're .

Only you know it's just like I can stay . Really I'm not really a panic kind of person , because in my mind there's always someone you know within a couple hours . Right , The most part I know , but think about it .

Anybody else is having this experience , but sure Like on all the trips we go on .

Everywhere we've ever driven , there's always someone we know well enough that if something went wrong , they could get to us .

Okay , yeah , i guess so .

All right , i don't know . I thought it was a relevant way of thinking , but Are you worried about like something happening on the road ? Yeah .

Road assistance .

No , I have AAA Yeah .

I was going to say it like No , it's not like that It's .

it's more , i don't know .

Describe to me an event that this .

The car breaks down and we have to get it towed by triple A to go somewhere . But we need somewhere to stay , got it . I know there are hotels . I hear you . It's just comforting , uh huh . Don't worry about it , you're the worst . I'm not .

I'm not worried about it . Yeah , right . If we make it through the eight day trip . That's not the part I'm worried about . I'm worried about , like , day five and we've forgotten .

Is this a bad time to tell you that it's more than eight days ?

No , but it's like eight days until we're like coming back , right , for 10 days . Is it 10 days ? and then we're heading back . Yeah , so it's like a 13 day trip .

It's 11 days . Okay , If I'm doing yeah , it's 11 days .

If you're doing the math correctly . I just wing and don't actually do my head .

It's 11 days I've been saying 10 days because I'd been doing Friday to Monday , but it's really Thursday to Monday .

Okay , got it .

Check's out .

Sure .

Uh , how was our first week at home without major obligations for the first time in a minute ?

Oh , I would say fine . Like you know , maybe not quite , We had a lot to catch up on .

We're still not caught up ?

Well no , no , no , we're , we're about to leave again .

And I'm excited about that . Oh yeah , we're about to just unend our lives again . Yeah .

Went to a concert , matchbox 20 . Yeah , Matt . Nathanson . That was fun , right , matt Nathanson . Yeah , did I get that right .

Yeah , it was really fun Yeah . We enjoyed it a lot . Matt Nathanson was hilarious .

He was funny , he was a good performer . I gotta say I'm not a big Matchbox 20 . Like They weren't angry enough or sad enough ? for me They were somewhere in the middle , So their music never really quite resonated . Also , they're very lyric striven .

I can after like Hearing more of them After seeing them live , you understood why I didn't get it .

But after seeing them live , i was like well , rob Thomas , hell of a performer .

So I got my dad and I shirts at the Matchbox 20 concert And they're gone . But I know they made it home because I remember them being on the floorboard of the car and taking them out and handing them to Matt and saying , hey , will you take these inside ? and him going . Yes , and he took them from me and now they're gone .

You definitely blamed me today that they were gone .

No , i , where'd you put ?

them , do you ?

know where you left them , cause I told you to take them inside and now they're gone . I That's about how it got framed today . I wasn't frustrated .

They were gone . I was frustrated that you weren't actively helping me . Look like you were , like they're gone .

They're in the abyss which I had no recollection of taking them inside , so that's why you don't remember that .

No , Oh my God , did I do it , did I not ? Did that not happen ? Okay ? I don't recall it at all .

I'm questioning myself entirely , that's fine , i'm not saying you're wrong . Maybe I handed them the Gardner .

That's a bold choice . Well , I'm , I'm wondering if that's what I did . Now .

We lost our TV remote for a day and a half because of Gardner .

She's been , she's been stopping things .

She's found a new place to put things away .

She's been hiding things in the couch . It's been hilarious . I found two full sets of shoes .

We've been having a hard time finding shoes to leave the house .

I know where they are now . Yeah , They were . I mean , they were well tucked in there . She shoves them down .

They were hidden .

Yeah , it was brutal . Yeah , I had to tear it .

I took every cushion off the couch before I found the TV remote . I love that Love is . Then she also acts like oh yeah , Yeah , I can help you find that . And then just runs to every room of the house looking for it Because she does not remember doing it .

The funniest part of the remote is we asked her . We said do you know where the remote is ? She goes yeah , did you have it last ? Yeah , okay , well , can you help me find it ? No , i'm like cool Or better yet yeah .

And then just leaves you all around the house not looking in the couch cushions .

No , also did that , that's really funny . Yeah , i hope we find those t-shirts tomorrow Yeah , we've started all of your laundry .

Well , it's all been washed , but we're running into the age old issue of now . we just have like six laundry Baskets of your clothes .

That's my to do in the morning .

Yeah .

It is Yep , i already decided , she has decided . I'm filming another part of the swim search series . I already have the swimsuits laid out for it , and then I'm put laundry . Got it Wild time . I also , tomorrow , want to organize the kids' closets , got it , and then I got to figure out something to post this week on the internet .

That's true .

Like lots more And I just need to edit it all together . I keep forgetting the water out front Yeah , the hostas are looking .

Burn .

Baby Burn . But the butterfly garden looks good because I have remembered the last two nights to go out and water it .

Yeah .

Only because it's been so hot . The fact that we didn't water it until July is honestly nuts . It did really well .

And we haven't had a lot of rain .

We had a lot of rain in June . We had a good amount of rain engine . That's why I got away with not watering it , okay , and it also wasn't crazy hot , but the heat is here but it's very hot and it's not raining right now . We picked the hottest week of the year to build a swing outside .

Oh , I didn't know we were singing that . Yeah , so the big thing we did this week was you have to sing it . We built . No , no Pass . We built our swing . We built while we like , renovated the little . Alcove outside You've been calling it an alcove , so outside of our kitchen window .

There is just a An overhang , i guess , like it's , between the addition and our living room the house that we renovated used to have sliding doors out of the living room and No , that was the and a door out of the laundry room . Yeah , mm-hmm , they closed a patio they enclosed a patio and then had sliding doors and a door from the laundry room .

And ripped it to a corner so it leaked super bad in there .

Yeah , to get to this patio and it was absolutely horrendous , but underneath , like the ground , there is like ten inches . It's like the thickest concrete slabs in the world Like it's huge , and so When we renovated the house , we took that all off , removed that roof line and everything .

Concrete pad , so that there was dirt .

Yeah , and they brought the machinery to do it and they thought it was gonna take them two days of that machinery And at the end of day one they had removed like just enough , like four inches off the one side That they could add the foundation where they needed .

Yeah , they needed to add , add concrete , new concrete for the addition , and they they took that much off . It took them the whole day and they went hey , how serious are you about removing this slab ? because it's like the slickest , the thickest Slab in the world .

Yeah , they're gonna take us like weeks to remove this . so slow Yeah and If you don't have to , please don't make us do this , yeah well , it's gonna be crazy expensive , yeah , and so I said , well , we're pivoting , because I don't want to spend thousands of dollars to have this concrete removed . So we did rock there instead , which I love .

Yeah , it gives us a nice little transition from patio to patio . It makes them their own little independent , yeah , and .

Then we kind of just started dreaming up what we wanted to do .

Yeah , it also has way too much rock in there , because we got however many yards of rock And so it had to go somewhere , and so we have too much rock in that space and too much rock by the garage .

Yeah , we'll work on that .

It's fine .

So we kind of had to put together a design of what we wanted to do with the alcove . And it was kind of an argument amongst not between you and me okay , you didn't really care , but Not an argument like a fight That's not the right phrasing a debate Maybe , like we were all kind of coming to the table with what we wanted to do under there .

I don't know that I ever really thought about the space too much .

Okay , my dad thought we should do a table table like table , like dining area under there .

It's not the worst idea , No , no no is . We don't have a great like we did not give ourselves door access to that space . That would be .

That was my thought also .

And so we would never ever use it .

Okay , never , ever is really strong .

We rarely ever use it .

Yeah , I agree .

Also it's between the house and the other side of the house , So the airflow there is not what you would . It's not an open-air dining experience necessarily .

No , but we're gonna add a fan .

Yeah , yeah , we cannot offend , that won't be a big deal . But let me tell you , the flies in there right now are nuts .

They won't be once . I plant my planters , but I'm waiting until we get back .

Yeah .

Anyway , we talked about a dining area . We talked about swings facing each other , like doing it twin , like a Most a sitting area with two twin size swings . That would be like a conversation nook . I .

Originally I think you talked a little bit about putting just a bunch of plants in there with in like pots and stuff , kind of a plant like , almost like a garden Space yeah , and I still plan to do that . We can do some of it , but part of it is also that it's very covered , so your light is not yeah , but that's actually really ideal for a .

It has pretty ideal lighting for a lot of plants for some shady plants .

Yeah , okay .

And so like it would be really good for a lot of my plants that I keep inside , Okay that I bring out in the summer months sure it'd be really good for a lot of those .

Yeah , yes , you want to do a hanging bed . Like you see it , resorts , yeah , yeah , yeah , which Fine we , we can do a hanging bed . So we looked into it buying a hanging bed .

We did look into that .

Pretty expensive .

Oh , minimum that I saw , mm-hmm $1,500 , like that was a baseline . Okay that's with no mattress and then yep . Which I guess makes sense , because it did take us four days . So we're thinking you know , people are crafting these .

Yeah mm-hmm and they have to build them in such a way that they can ensure that they are safe . Yes to hang for many many years . Yes , yes , i don't . I don't know that ours is gonna last many , many years . I think it's good , but we don't know What .

I thought I would have a great job . I think it's very solid Yeah .

Well it . I think you can use a little more bracing to make it a little more rigid , but it's it's , the bones are there . I ?

I . Nothing upsets me more than the constant criticism I receive .

That's from my project Criticism yeah , it is okay .

Just because you feel criticized doesn't mean I'm criticizing you , perfect .

It's so perfect . It's the best bed that's ever been built . Thank you , furniture makers could never they could never yeah , and that's why they all use two by eights , you know from From the hardware store .

Yes .

For for high-end furniture .

Yes , you get it .

Mm-hmm , only the best only the best .

The best for me .

But you know , we didn't spend $1,500 for sure .

I mean , I think this is a really good segue into what motivates me versus what motivates you and our working styles when tackling projects together .

Yeah , that is kind of the big thought this week , i think , is , you know , doing projects when we are different people with very different Working styles .

one , no , it's funny is you think that it's because you have different working styles that you don't work well together . Well , i actually think we work well together . I shouldn't even say that I do think we work well together .

Yeah , yeah , i can . It can definitely , i mean , especially if you have the same working style and it's very particular that you have to take your working style , impossible to work with okay .

I've done it my whole life . I'm very good at working with you guys , but you guys are impossible

But you hate it .

I hate it .

I was gonna say I love it the best you've got . So I feel complicated .

actually , i know I shouldn't say I hate it , i feel complex about it . Okay because Anybody can show me something my dad built and I will defend that thing he built to the ends of the earth .

But while building it You will be , because , let me say , Anything my dad builds is over-engineered to the tee .

That's true , Like You know mm-hmm .

It's gonna be standing our our wedding arbor is the biggest , heaviest arbor in the world .

This whole house will crumble before that wedding arbor comes .

Absolutely .

You know mm-hmm , And so I do appreciate that . I think there's a lot of value in that sure . I don't say necessarily appreciate the fear mongering that both As a tactic and then the way both of you treat me like what ? why you scared ? Why are you scared to sit on that ? It's great at up to 2,500 pounds .

Okay , You know okay . I don't appreciate being completely lumped into this , but you do it too Okay .

you do it too Okay . What motivates me ?

Things looking good okay . Aesthetics . I believe aesthetics motivate you presentation .

You don't think that function I ?

Think function . Function is secondary .

Really . But you don't think it's but functions up there , that's sure , because I feel like I pick function over aesthetics .

Okay , really .

Yeah .

Really .

Yeah .

Okay , you don't . What Tell me more ?

I feel like it's more important to me , like when I'm picking furniture and everything . I'm not going to pick something just because it's pretty .

Okay .

First and foremost , I want it to function . Secondly , I want it to be pretty .

Okay .

But if it's pretty and not functional , it's out .

Sure , i will say you are not a form over function , entirely Never . You consider the functionality of something .

Yeah .

But as long as it meets your functionality standard .

Which I think across the board . Something I've learned about myself is my standards in life were just really low .

And that's how you got me There you go , you lower the bar enough You can leap right over it . That's a life motto for me .

That's not what I mean .

Across the board she says No , i just that's not what I meant .

I meant with things objects , material items . No , I don't think I care that much about things . Okay .

Fair , fair , anyway . What motivates ?

you . I think we've grown to care less about things .

I think through the years .

Perfection motivates you . Perfection motivates you .

Perfection motivates me . Yeah , i think perfection paralyzes me .

Not making a mistake is what is your motivator .

I do hate making mistakes or looking dumb Right . I don't even have to make a mistake . If I look like I'm making a mistake , that's almost worse .

I learned that about . That's something new that I learned about you like this week .

When we were at the hardware store and I was like I just don't want to look dumb in here .

Yeah , well , you were . So we were loading the wood for the project and Matt got so anxious and I was so confused because I'm the one that would normally worry about the kind of stuff he was worrying about And I was like , what are you what ? what's going on ? Because I'm confident .

Yeah , i was like 90% sure that eight foot lumber would fit in our car . Again , 90% sure .

I wasn't concerned in the slightest .

No .

And it went in the car fine .

It did work . Again , I was 90% sure it was going to work , but I got real worried about it .

No , but you were like a scale of one to 10 , of how ? like 10 being paralyzing anxiety and zero being ? like I'm in chill , Yeah , you were at like an eight , i would say . And I asked him I was like , matt , what's wrong ? Because it was continuing Even once the car was loaded . we're like on our way home . and you were like all tensed up .

What happened ?

We went to the hardware store to get some stuff and we went through self-checkout And while we were there we just left our bag at self-checkout induced And I knew I was like , oh well , do you want to run up there or to grab that ? And Matt was like , sure , i can do that . And it clicked in my head .

I bought it and then I left it at the register .

It didn't bother me one bit . I strolled right in there . I walked in , i gave him the receipt . He's like what are these items Did you not take with you ? It's like a list of 10 items . I said I only took the rope .

We didn't leave the rope Anything else The huge bundle of rope , all of the other things that we bought and left them right there .

He didn't even laugh at me . He's like I've done that . He's like well , we've already put it back , but you can just go pick it up . So I went and reshopped our stuff and left .

Yeah , so I think the project turned out well , turned out good .

Yeah , I think it turned out a 14 out of 10 . 14 out of 10 .

Wow , that's really really good .

I really love it Okay . I want to order the spring We're going to . I think actually need to do two , not one , but I want to drill a spring down into our . since we have 10 inches of concrete , i figure why not drill a spring into it so that it doesn't rock too far ?

Well , you got like 14 inches of rock . I'm not digging out all that rock and drilling into concrete . We'll just put like some kind of anchor there .

Oh okay , yeah .

Like literally , I think you could put a boat anchor in a chain and like just keep the thing from swinging too much Okay .

I think that's .

All right ?

Well , that's not what I was going to do .

Maybe not literally a boat anchor , but that principle .

I have a feeling that it's going to end up in the concrete . But we'll see once he does some research and you know all that ?

Have you attempted to reach the concrete before ? No , or drill concrete ?

Yeah , okay , what were your ?

results . I figured you're stronger than me , okay .

Uh-huh , you have better things .

I've drilled concrete and it's not very fun . and this concrete's even worse because it's filled with rocks actual rocks .

All right , Well , I'm going to find a way not to drill the concrete , but I will find a way to make it very safe and stable .

I just want to make sure it's anchored so that it doesn't bump .

It hasn't even come close to bumping in the wall , but I know once I get it I'm going to drill it . I know it's anchored on the wall , but I know once the kids are a little older that they're going to .

I do have a provision for this .

The spring part .

Honestly , the springs I was thinking more of as attaching to the hooks and the ceilings so that it absorbed some of the pull . Oh , okay , on the anchor Like it absorbs the shock .

I'm worried about it's putting their feet up on the wall the exterior wall of the house and pushing themselves away , and then it rocking back into the house .

And that's why we'll just put a chain that prevents that range of motion .

But then instead Yeah , guys live on the podcast you're hearing us have a disagreement about this .

This is an engineering decision being made live .

Because it'll hit and then it'll just jerk them What do you mean ?

What's the thought here ?

Well , if it's a chain instead of a spring , when it hits that it'll like , like You know , like really come to a stop .

Okay , i'm imagining the chain has a little bit of slack to it .

Well then it .

A little bit so that it swings around and then , if you push it to the edge , you run out of slack And it stops the range of motion . Okay , fine , i'll find some kind of magical spring that I already have it .

I already have the product . I thought it was the right product after the research I did .

Maybe it is . I'm not familiar with this technology .

Well , that's exactly what . I'm sitting here as we're talking about this . That's why I said at the beginning it's going to end up being a spring , because you're going to look into it . But now , because we've had this conversation , you will look up ulteriors to that spring in order . Stretching chains .

I am getting a live nosebleed .

Oh you are . That's kind of fun .

We're just going to roll with it though It doesn't seem super strong . There's that cloth right there You can use that . Oh yeah , That would be a choice . The dust spot .

Oh it's happening . You can . I'm podcasting through it . Oh , you are . Well , i don't really like the blood dripping down into your mouth . I'm not a fan , but from the time we've met gets a ridiculous amount of nosebleeds , truly the entire time , when we were in high school .

Oh yeah , I forgot that happened And he did in fact bleed on the plexiglass And it's honestly a very tormented photo .

Yeah , it's a series of weird artistic photos that you took .

They're dark , they're interesting .

I was troubled . I'm still troubled . What ?

Super troubled .

They were dark , they were cool , though . My parents then hung those photos in their house for like 10 years .

That is true .

Yeah , they just recently took those down . No , literally like three pictures of Matt drowning . We were hung in their house the entire time . We were broken up . They never took them down .

No .

He said he'll come back .

Favorite part of this specific project . Yeah , it being done , yeah , yeah , it being done was good . It was hot . We picked the hottest day of the year to work outside . The two hottest days . The first day was the hottest day And then the next day was hotter than the day before .

I feel like you saying we picked is a really loaded phrasing .

Okay .

Because I feel like it was the first week we were really home the entire week without other obligations .

It was Yeah , root , yeah . Favorite part might be Yeah . It being over , it was not the funnest project for me personally .

Why oh . Was it just the heat ?

or were there other things ? the heat wasn't great , the heat was unfortunate . Yeah , we had some working , working challenges together , because you really wanted to do a lot of it yourself .

I did a lot of it myself .

You . I mean , you did do a lot of it yourself , but where you wanted me to fill in was somewhat ambiguous and you did not like me inserting myself . No and in times where I thought maybe it would be helpful or relevant .

No .

You were not welcome to the input .

Okay , so I think that this might have to do with neurodivergent versus neurotypical . But , maybe not . You don't like to be involved with the process until the process is processing .

So it's underway .

Yeah , and that really frustrates me because I ask for input , like for all kinds of stuff leading up to , and then Then , once I'm working and I've already purchased the things and I've made the plan and I'm doing the things , having somebody walk up and go , i don't know about that .

Well , you were very clear . I have this plan , that's all set up . It's gonna like , it's definitely built to hang All this , all these things You said . It's just just as stable .

And then , as it was taking shape , I said okay , i , i showed you a plan and I said I think that I want to do it like this , which is not built to hang , will it work ? and you were like yeah , and I said okay . So , we have two very different memories of that and I even say that in the videos that I Made in documenting everything .

Yeah , you just found kind of a bed frame plan right . And then decided we were gonna hang it from the ceiling right and . Then I talked about different ways that we should support it , and you were not happy with that .

I Think you're kind of fudging the .

I Don't think I'm trying to talk about different ways to reinforce it , and you kept being like You don't shut up . I'm gonna slap you , but just with your eyes .

I Say a lot with my eyes to you .

Yeah , in your face .

Yeah . And sometimes with your mouth sometimes with my mouth , i think is probably the only thing you should trust .

Yeah , but the other ones in the body language is pretty .

I don't trust your reading of my facial expressions at all . Okay , I don't , i'll say it .

Am I just way off base all the time ?

Not always , but a lot of the time Okay you are every once in a while .

You'll get it . Sometimes you're just not being true with me .

I don't think that's true . Well , cuz I don't . Do you really think I have a problem being honest ?

About . That's a question .

Okay , do you think I have a problem being honest about my feelings ?

I think you have a problem admitting that One . You definitely have a problem admitting that , i'm right .

You think ?

On the initial go .

Okay , i'll give you that , because .

I think you're frustrated and you'll go . I'm absolutely not frustrated . I'm upset that things are making me mad because they're not working out .

Well , something I really have noticed that since Matt pointed that out to me , maybe what six months ago now .

Hey , i don't think it was that . I think it wasn't that long ago , probably a month or two .

Oh , really Oh I thought I've been a while but Matt pointed out to me that anytime he's like are you , and then insert whatever Feeling here . I hate that and since I didn't , i didn't know that , i hated that .

Yes , yeah or whatever emotion you're experiencing . Yes , but if I guessed it right , you're still gonna say no .

Yeah , and I didn't know like I and I do it with other things too . It's not just that I'm trying to think of another example , but I've noticed myself that when you ask me something , my response Immediately no matter what you say to me is to disagree .

I wonder what that is . I'm not saying you have a problem being honest . I'm having , i'm saying your reaction is typically I'm not correct and then . We can maybe process through what's happening . Yeah , usually , but the initial response is yeah , i don't .

I think you're right there . Yeah for sure That's so . It really is interesting to me . I have noticed myself doing like that , not that .

I yeah .

I always do it , guys . It's reliable ten out of ten times . That will ask me how I'm feeling . Well , no , he'll tell . Not that you're telling me how I'm feeling , but you'll ask if something time feeling it seems like you're feeling this way and immediately . But it's not just with feelings .

That makes sense doing this .

So that's why your favorite part of the project was it being done .

Yeah .

I honestly thought the project itself went pretty smoothly and I thought us working together with pretty smoothly . Now , we didn't discuss prior to this podcast .

No .

I feel like maybe I'm getting this .

No , no , no , just for one , making content around the project . We I'm not .

You have specific visions and it's not even a specific vision . It's that the specific vision is . We have to document the things we do and I'm not great at that . No , and it I have learned that everybody in my life Uh , gets a little frustrated by me documenting .

Not by you documenting , but you are good at it and you see it easily , and one other people don't . You don't always Make it the most accommodating environment .

Well , nobody's paying attention to what I'm doing .

You say not paying attention Some people don't see it .

I want to focus . On what you want to focus on , and yeah , Uh-huh . Valid , valid , valid . I will take the constructive criticism and I shall Use it moving forward noted , noted .

Noted super deep criticism , but Got it .

Uh , my favorite part Was tying the knots .

Yeah .

Yeah .

That was an adventure .

I thought it was funny .

It was funny in a like . This is holding the bed up , and I hope we don't really screw this up way .

I don't think we did .

No , but it is also funny and that every single one of those knots , i think , is maybe not the same .

Somebody in my comment section told me that I should run air airplane cable through the rope because Ropes will like give out over time . Uh-huh , i was like huh , but in my mind my brain thought that's weird , because didn't they use ropes for like Boats and all kinds of stuff for ?

a long time . I think believe rope maintenance was also maybe involved , like yeah , but I think you had to re rig and re rope things Over time .

Okay , you think we're gonna have to re rope this , this baby , this bad boy , i don't think very soon . Okay .

I do believe that if this was gonna be something that , like you put in public or whatever , that you would want to run some airplane cable , some Something to as a safety measure for okay , so it was .

It is something , it was smart .

It's it is very cautious , it's cautious .

Okay conservative . Well , I'm surprised my dad didn't recommend we do that then well , don't know , maybe , maybe he's . Maybe has a reason why he didn't .

Maybe he just knows aesthetically you're not gonna like running airplane cable next to your ropes .

It's not next to . They ran it like they braided rope around airplane cable around airplane cable , That's yeah so it still had the same look of being ropes got it through the center of their ropes .

That seems super stable . Airplane cable Yeah , that seems like a ton of work .

That's what I thought . And it seems expensive , probably because airplane cable Is that expensive .

No , not super expensive .

Like how much ? how much is a foot ?

It kind of depends on how thick you're going .

Okay , well , we need 50 feet .

You could , i'd have to look it up .

Okay , we're gonna need that , plus we're gonna need triple the amount of rope We had .

I was gonna say it's triple the rope , it's gonna be expensive .

You're playing cable .

It's gonna be maybe the same price as your rope , depending on what you go with we spent 50 dollars on rope 40 .

It was 48 dollars . I think that's true and I was actually . I was surprised by that .

How expensive it was . Yeah .

Yeah , that seemed expensive to me .

Yeah well , i , and again , I think you get a better price if you buy a lot of rope , like if you're buying a 250 foot .

I'm not up on the on the rope talk .

Yeah , but if we're buying it by the foot , we gotta are you on rope ? talk . No , no , i just that's how a lot of things go .

If you're buying it in small quantities , you have to pay more you know , um , i feel like this is where I should insert in this that on my stories On my ticktocks or not my tick tock on my instagram stories I wasn't even My brain wasn't even in this at all And I posted a picture of the hook up like installed into the ceiling and the rope tied on it

Oh , like a suspended bed . Yeah that's a thing I've seen that .

I've seen them too , but not as a .

Again , that's not . I don't think they meant I don't just a different way to suspend the bed .

I don't think they meant just a suspended bed . Anyway , then I got all these dms and It was really funny , had some good talks , people were hysterical over it .

Yes . People were like wow , this is really Just out there for you . Really , yeah , putting it out there .

Everybody was like I'm not surprised . And I was like I wasn't , i wasn't , i wasn't doing anything . I wasn't , i was . Anyway . I put up a story and said that bdsm jo wasn't on people's bingo card for the year .

Yeah , Yeah , nope , it was just the hooks that we used to to hold up the bed outside . Which leads me to my least favorite part of the project . Which is going into the attic in the on the hottest day of the year .

That was the hardest part of the entire . Thing . Um safely installing it into the ceiling , because where we put it , the roof is how far from the ceiling ?

On the ends It's pretty much just like four inches below it . Yeah , so I had to crawl out into the eve of the house to put blocking up there so that we could actually land The hooks .

What's the next project I ?

missed multiple times and I had to go up and readjust the blocking .

Tell us more .

About what .

How many times you went in the attic ?

I went up there . Three times three times Yeah .

Which is too many when it's over a hundred degrees outside .

Yeah , yeah .

What I asked was what are our next projects ?

Next projects ? Well , I think the garage . I think it's that's the next thing Like we got to clear out the garage and then we need to paint the cabinets paint the cabinets in the garage so that we can store the cabinets . That are living in the garage right now .

Yeah , i'm almost embarrassed to take on some of the projects that we need to do , because I want to document them and share them online , but that means showing people our garage . Yeah , well , not just the garage .

I hope not .

Yeah , like trash , i'm sure that garbage people . Yeah , yeah , we've got some garbage people tendencies . Oh , oh , okay , bad dad mean mom It's probably just a perfect parenting week .

I can't think of anything . I think that we pretty much did nail it this week .

Yeah , we had a lot of fun stuff . We did fun activities , we garden , we went to the plant store .

We played with dinosaurs . She was a great project helper .

Yeah .

She helps with stuff all the time .

She was big into the project . She loved using a screwdriver . Probably shouldn't let a toddler use a screwdriver .

Yeah , she was handling those threaded eye hooks And washers and a screwdriver . She was enjoying putting the washers onto the screwdriver .

Yeah , washers are probably .

That's bad , dad probably said that I wouldn't let her have a washer .

I guarantee , i would have never let her have a washer .

I was exposing her to the working environment . She was supervised . I was watching that's good , i was watching a lot if she was supervised .

I think it's okay . Yeah , but it needed to be closely supervised because , that is a very choking hazard .

She was yeah , she was very involved in the tools , wanted to be doing tool stuff .

Greg's reads . Greg's reads of the week .

Greg's your dad , yep . He sends us a lot of articles .

Yeah , he does .

He reads lots of stuff . Yeah , he does . And then we rate those articles on our podcast on a scale zero to five .

I feel like a zero to five . Zero to five , yeah , five being the most anxiety the headline could give us . And zero being no anxiety at all , yeah .

So maybe you have someone in your life that sends you articles and you can relate to this .

Yeah , i honestly , i really do . I enjoy it . It's almost the only news I take in .

It's pretty close .

And a lot of it's not even news , a lot of it's just .

Yeah , he doesn't send us so much current events .

No , sometimes . Occasionally , if it's major We don't normally share the current events on here . All right 17 wealthy people revealed how they actually got rich . Here's the deal .

When I read this headline .

If all 17 weren't telling me honestly how they actually got rich , i was going to be upset . And it was exactly that . They did not tell me .

No , no , no . what did they say ?

Well , because I want to know exactly where they started . I want all the background deeds If you're going to talk to me about .

This is a 12,000 word article . That's what I want .

But it didn't give me anxiety , maybe like a one out of five .

It's giving it a one .

Yeah , ok , weeds taking over your garden , oh no , the answer is hiding in your kitchen cupboard .

It's just passive , aggressive .

It gives me like a four out of five .

Maybe a one out of five for me .

Really .

Yeah , no , it doesn't bother me that much .

It doesn't immediately make you go . Oh my gosh , our garden has so many weeds .

Not really .

Oh , it does me .

Yeah , yeah .

I had a nightmare during my nap today that , ok , i feel like I have to give people context . We had friends who in their backyard they bumped up to city property And there were trees that were the city's property And one morning the city came by and just cut down their trees . Well , they weren't theirs , they were the city's .

It was an invasive species of tree , yeah , but they had They have a bounty on Big trees that cast shade into their yard and stuff . Yeah .

So , anyway , they took down these trees , and then today I slept , when the kids slept , and I had a nightmare that the city came and just tore down my entire butterfly garden .

Yeah , which would be so wild if they ever did that . Oh , the city just comes and chops down a certified monarch way station .

Although they moved the sign in my dream .

They moved the sign as though it's not registered .

They moved it to where our neighbors are rehabilitating their wetland . They'd moved the butterfly sign over there .

Yeah , it seems like a lot for the city to do .

Anyway , OK , article number three These crazy new AC innovations are going to change how we keep cool .

I was interested in this . It didn't give me anxiety . I forgot to read it .

When you said you were interested in it , I thought you're going to give me a rundown .

No , I wish I could . I meant to .

Oh , did you read the answers hiding in your kitchen cupboard for the weeds ?

No , i didn't read that either , man , i got to start . I feel like that was related . Somebody was . I saw on TikTok . somebody was like oh , there's this great solution you can use . It's like salt and vinegar It'll kill any weed .

I think if you just use vinegar it's a lot better for the soil .

Yeah , and then there was that video , and then I was like you're just literally salting the earth , which is a tried and true way to make nothing grow there for a super long time .

Yeah .

Really jack up the soil . Yeah which , if you don't want anything to grow there ever again ever again .

it does work , Yeah . Now it could take generations before it regenerates , but um , yeah , we've got to fix my phone so that I can actually click on and see these articles , because I miss reading them . All right .

Okay .

It was . It was fine . It was a cute little article , but uh , it made me laugh when it came through . It didn't give me any anxiety . Zero out of five .

Yeah , yeah , i think your dad had a witty comment that went along with it . He did like , don't say any of these things are relatable or whatever .

Yeah , i uh . Yeah , you think that he raised jerks ? I feel like dad kind of raised jerks , don't you think ?

I don't know if you guys are jerks .

It's a stretch , but Maybe just with one another . Maybe anybody with their family can be a little feisty .

I think that's a bit Specific . I don't know that you guys are in general , jerks . Yeah , it didn't give me any anxiety either . So , okay , what , what , uh ? any ? any pro tips in there ?

No pro tips , it was just . It was like it was a cute little article . I thought it just talked about different things that They do differently .

They wish they would have done differently .

Yeah , I'm trying to remember what some of it was like not bullied my kids so much . No , um , there was stuff about um . Oh my gosh , i can't remember a dang thing . You gotta stop asking me to read these articles I know , i know it . It wasn't what I was expecting it to be like .

I did read it though .

Yeah , uh , that one came through in a different text than the rest of these , and so it came through as a headline .

Alrighty .

Yeah , women in their 40s , 50s and beyond are sharing valuable life lessons They learned in their teens and 20s and a lot of these are really helpful .

Gotta say that didn't give me any anxiety . It's a low anxiety week .

Oh , this made me laugh that it came from dad . Oh , that's really funny . Um , um valuable life lessons they learned in their 20s and teens . Well , all of your children are in their 30s .

Yeah so so we missed it Oh yeah , we're not .

We're not the women that are sharing valuable life lessons , um , and we're also not the people that they're talking to . I guess the 30s just got left out of there entirely .

Yeah , but no , you should have it figured out Hey you're .

You're gonna have a daughter in her 40s soon . Don't forget it .

Oh yeah , hey , she'll have the advice right , yeah , i can't wait valuable life lessons that she learned 20 years before .

Okay , it's my favorite part of the week where you learn a new word . It's word of the week new word .

We just talked right through my whole thing .

Sorry , go ahead .

Do it again . Word of the week Perfect , familiar with the term sports washing . This is kind of a I'm gonna try and something new here . Instead of picking a special vocab word , we're kind of trying to pick something maybe a little more relevant that you might hear .

Okay , i like this because I know the word sports And I know the word washing , okay , so it's gonna be easy for me to remember the phrase . It's one word . Yeah and I'm so excited My limbs are going to Be a Kimbo was a word of the week he is a couple weeks ago and she hasn't . I've really latched on to it .

She doesn't use it particularly well , but she does use it just Loosely all the time .

It's the only one I remember She throws it out , a Kimbo . You know what I will say . All of you that are listening . My favorite thing is everyone listening uses the words of the week in DMs to me and like , if I run into you guys in person , you have used words of the week talking to me .

She won't know what they mean . I don't know what they mean . It's gonna go right over her head .

I know it's from word of the week .

Sometimes I was gonna say that's generous to yourself . Sometimes I'm just stupid , they're trying to have a fun inside check with you . I know sports washing .

I like this because I'm gonna remember sports washing . Yes okay , what does it mean ?

the practice of an organization , government , country , etc . Supporting sports or organizing sports events as a way to improve their reputation . Oh so This is happening , uh , so like , like the Saudi golf league .

Oh , that's sports washing , pga It's it's .

there's a broad sports washing . They've acquired a lot of Very popular sports teams . Okay , is that kind of like ?

f1 trying to do a not trying doing races in the united states . Uh , if that be a form of sports washing like they're trying to improve its Like international reputation . Okay , it could be considered sports washing . I think that's them trying to broaden their only government or country . Because whenever I was thinking that would be like f1 .

Sports washing themselves , but they're a sport .

Yeah , I guess that doesn't make you're on the right track Okay , I'm not somebody trying to improve their optics .

Okay , by associating themselves with a sport that people like okay like , let's say , the president took a picture with The national sports team . So be like oh , look , how cool he is with The sports team . Okay , so would this be ?

like . This is not going to be right again .

I'm excited though .

So like during the Olympics , when all the companies Have all the athletes from the Olympics all over their commercials and stuff would that be ?

would that be sport washing ? Yeah , yeah that in a way or like yeah , politicians will go and Be a part of the , the festivities , to okay , i think it's best that I don't use that one that often .

But I will remember what it's about Yes .

Yeah , and that's that's good right .

Yeah , okay , that is good . So , sports washing Improving your reputation via popular sports .

Okay , i like it . We have voice messages .

Yeah , you ready to do some voicemails from y'all voicemail .

I don't know , don't worry about it .

Hey matt and jo . This is erin calling in again from the museum . I've been catching up on the last few weeks of over sharing and I had a question . Um ,

Um , I convinced matt's brother to move here before I convinced matt's parents to move here .

Yeah , it was part of the long con . I think from jo that if both of both of my parents children lived in arkansas , that they would be .

Uh , I am a long con Con player trying to get air-butted northwest arkansas .

I was gonna say it's not necessarily a con from you . You're just you're really promoting the area because you love it here . Yeah , I do So in my family a little bit less relevant in that they are moving closer to both of their kids .

Yeah , so , uh , matt's brother actually just bought a house With his girlfriend in the same town that matt and I live in , and now matt's parents live here too , and we're all within you know , 15 minutes of each other , and it's so much fun , uh , so that's really cool , but with my family , my sisters are in omajana braska , and I feel like my family is kind

Also , if they moved here they wouldn't be The time wise that's the other thing . I was gonna say Yeah , so it would be status quo for them For the most part . Yeah , and we would be in the same place , so it would have a a slight advantage there , they might feel , since there's two of them in one place A certain way .

I understand why you might feel that way , yeah , um , and I understand why your sister might have feelings about it , but I don't know that that's ever been a problem that we've no , it's not something we're facing directly , and I think it's probably , like you said , a lot more related to how close The relationship is well necessarily the proximity .

Yeah , yeah , and we have the grandkids , and I think that's just where my parents Want to be at this time .

Yeah , i don't have good advice on that , but I think that if it's something that you're thinking and it's never been spoken about , i would have that conversation .

Yeah , just open the dialogue up and just ask Hey , is this something you feel a certain way about ?

I'm all about opening dialogues . Yeah , love to open a dialogue .

Hi Matt and Jo . This is Abby . I'm from the UK , southwest England , and I love your podcast . I've been listening since like the beginning to finding you guys on tit-tok . But you guys are actually in a very similar relationship to me and my partner .

That's exactly where I was gonna go with it , so I wouldn't have been upset by any comments said at that time , because I would have been like ? yeah , absolutely I feel so .

I hear this a lot from couples that got together when they were really young , there was a lot of pushback from family or friends or other people they would run into . They're like oh , you guys are so young .

Yeah , when we started taking it seriously They didn't .

in high school We were like I was like no , i really like him , but like he's going off to college next year like we're totally gonna break up because we don't want to go to college with a boyfriend And this entire time . And then when we broke up , even after college and we're really everybody in our lives are like weird .

Did they say it to you ? No , no , nobody . I didn't talk to anybody about my relationships .

Nobody . Ever . When we broke up and I was dating other people and stuff and all that , nobody Ever voiced to me that they thought the guy was Matt , which I'm glad . I think that that was a good one .

That wouldn't have been a very constructive , like helpful thing in that time .

No it wouldn't have been , but I Uh yeah , no , in my mind I wasn't there yet that I thought He was it and I know a lot of people are . That was not me . Me is not her .

Yeah , we weren't that confident in it We were . We were never those , those people that were like , yes , this is where we're headed .

No , I think we're still not those people .

Yeah uh , and so we're pretty sure you're about each other .

Yeah , i feel like we're pretty sure about each other .

Otherwise , all the other direction is is not there yet , but yeah , i , i don't know , We , we didn't really .

I think that we were our biggest doubters because , man , uh , uh , my parents really , from the time we started dating in high school we're like , i know they don't usually meet you know whoever in high school , but I kind of hope it's this guy . We really like him .

Yeah , i , i , i like , even now I'm like , i feel like that might be revisionist history Are we ? are we looking at this with a ? You think , no , i , i mean , i don't , i don't think that's the case , but , like my grandmother , called you her mat . That's true .

You were still my mat to my grandmother . She had a picture of Matt on her fridge .

That's true .

Nobody took the pictures in the after And she'd be like who's that ?

And they'd be like that's my mat And that's that's my granddaughter Jordan . They're like oh , her boyfriend , no , that's my mat .

Yeah , just the , just this guy And my sister's calling my sister Matt . I was the fourth sister for a good period of time .

Yeah , not now . No , you've leveled up .

Yeah , now that I have two kids , i don't get called the fourth sister , so that's cool . But yeah , yeah , no , nobody , nobody took . Nobody took it less seriously than us .

No , until we did .

Or if they did , they just assumed it wasn't gonna work out and they didn't bother saying it to us .

Yeah , actually , my , my , my , my made of honor Jacey in her speech at our wedding . I'll never forget it , cause this really landed . She was talking about you know , i never had any doubts about these two .

Yeah , i never . I never left the walls .

I brought other guys . Nope , he was still there on the wall . Just that dude on the wall , and I'm not talking like pictures of us from prom or something . I'm talking pictures of just Matt solo drowning under his nosebleed .

Yeah , plexiglass blood . Yeah , super weird pictures of a dude under plexiglass .

Yep , there were other ones too . It wasn't just those .

Yeah , no , there were , but that was the funniest one .

I love it .

Yeah .

That was fun . I liked that question .

It is a good question . I wish we had better stories .

I do too , cause I know friends that got together really early and , like they knew that it was their person , who have the hilarious stories of what people told them .

Yeah , I think we just didn't take it seriously enough . Maybe if we'd have been around talking about like oh well , we're going to be together forever And this is our 10 year plan , which I don't part of . it is probably me just being like oh , i don't have like a three week plan . I don't know what I'm going to be in a month .

Well , and I'm wondering people may have told me things , but I just don't remember like it . Since it didn't , since I agreed with it , i don't remember .

I was going to say it would make an impact . It would have been like , yeah , no , that makes sense .

Cause even my friends from high school that weren't around us in college and stuff . When we got engaged , everybody's like , yeah , that makes sense . Like you were the couple I thought would stay together .

And I'm like what That's super weird .

What You know my best friend Bren has always said that Bren and Amy , we've always been like yeah , no , that makes sense , You guys having kids and a family and everything .

I was just the best dude . Everybody loved me .

You are the best You are . That's not true . It's so true .

That's just what people think on the internet . That's not true . And your family ?

You think just everybody has really bad vision , just everyone on the internet

We talked about how you've lowered the bar . You have really low expectations .

About material objects in my home . Across the board . Across the board with material objects . You're not a material object .

Not far off .

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