Gary Vee & Brian B at SB58 | Overpromised Ep #37

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It's Cavino and Rich. Now today we got a couple cool guests on the show.

We're gonna be joined by Kevin from the Office, Brian Bumgarter coming up in just a little bit. Yeah, I bet Office fans are gonna love that. He's a big football fan too. And Gary the Gary Vey Nerd Shock.

Gonna get a little motivational. So we'll get to all that right here on Over Promised. Yeah, we're here with Gary v one of our favorites.

Man.

Always good to see you.

Great to see you guys.

Yeah no, you bring a great vibe immediately, Thank you. But dude, how do you get from one side of the room to the next one. Everybody knows you. Everybody wants to talk. How do you have do you have a place?

Saying? If I can't, yeah, how you can?

Bro.

It's so crazy my whole life that this has all been going on. I will stop for everyone because I'm blown away that people even want to talk to me. Like, when you grow up wanting to be a businessman, you never think you're gonna be known. You know, we're enough of the closes to the You guys are younger than me, but like businessmen weren't famous, and if they.

Were, they were like Bill Gates.

I'm like, I don't want to be that nerd, you know, like so so so this this snuck up on me so over the last ten years. I'm just so grateful for the attention. So I always used to stop. Now it's more about now educated. If I stop and I'm late for y'all and you guys have a schedule, I feel like I'm being disrespectful to y'all.

So my answer I look down.

Oh I say that to him, don't make cut, don't any but Bro, he wants to right because you want you know, it's a what's nice about being stopped is a win for both people to share something from my culture to you, Gary, I'm half Mexican, right, so we do the like just I need to learn one of these or a point, or like our buddy Adam, shine my guy, or hay now, just a hay now, just something to make somebody feel.

I'm very similar. I love the eye contact, the nod.

The problem is you're not fully in control to what they're gonna do, right, So people get the nod. Other people see that as the opening for a forty three minute conversation when you have four seconds, right, and then you feel bad, Like to me, I'd rather just do the nod because if they come in for the talk and I know I'm about to be late, you feel you feel not nice when you're rushing them out.

So it's an awkward thing. But honestly, it's.

All very bougie, bougie, very luxury headaches. It's it's honestly. My favorite part is the airport. We're actually have a few minutes and I'll sometimes I'm like keeping them. They like want to go, and I'm like, oh what any other questions, Like yeah, yeah, you know.

Let me ask one more question on this like the etiquette. I guess before we get into it. Gary Vaynerchuk here with Cavino and Rich. You know, sometimes you get mixed up on the greeting, the handshake, like what do you have the fault automatic?

When do you go in for the hug.

I'm honestly bad because I like the slap. Yes, I like going slap first then shake. Just yeah, we had a smooth one when you got here. Yeah, I noticed that, But that's because we're smooth, dude. It's called a spade of spade.

There's some people that are a little more corny than us that just think it's a shake. I actually really like the huge because even if you botched it and the person thought you were going in for something else, the hug could smother it. Yeah, and so the hug mitigates the awkwardness. And I am, in general am an Eastern European hugger.

Yeah, like, I like the hug. I noticed that too in your videos.

A lot of times say someone will say something real nice to you and then you're, yeah, I'm.

Very very very like hug.

I definitely express my feelings through like words, but also like through touching high five sog like I'm very that guy.

Well, Gary v is here businessman entrepreneurs thought are ty coon motivational speaker, but dude, businessman king of Vayne or media and we want to.

Talk super Bowl as Yeah.

My first question is I'm sort of torn on companies leaking the ads because because I get it, they want to get it out there, but it doesn't create the urgency to watch the Super Bowl commercial and I thought that was always a big part of the game.

I agree, if you get it out and it hits pay dirt in social you'll end up getting more views on it than even the Super Bowl, which is the number one way to get views. So the logic I get. I think the first crew that did it a decade ago it was working. Now to your point, it's oversaturated the pre release. I actually think the people that hold back get more because nobody's.

Seen it yet ahead of time.

Like the other day, was Hey from Scrubs or tricky?

It's tricky, it's tricky.

I would say that there is no right answer, that it could go either way, and I think that is what makes this question a really fun, challenging question for me, someone who likes to think he understands this craft. When clients ask me, I literally tell them the key is to have a very strong social media overall strategy. So if the strategy is to leak it, you've got to do something to day of the game. We call it super Bowl Surround sound. I think you've got to do

Like the ground field goal thing is sort of set up, like there's a payoff to us, the hype of doing Yeah, they've done a good job with that, and that like there's actuality to that. Like there's a lot more to do with Super Bowl ad. I think people should sell more stuff on super ad.

I've always wanted to do a super ad where the ad happens and you say, and by the way, this ridiculous deal will only be going on until the clock hits double triple zero.

Oh no, that's good, right.

We sell this for one hundred bucks normally we're gonna sell this for twenty three dollars special or it's the fifty eighth super Bowl. We normally sell this thing for one hundred and fifty dollars. We're gonna sell for fifty eight bucks to honor to fifty eighth super Bowl. But this deal is done when the game is over. That I think is kind of like I want to do that, ad.

Man, you like that?

I do.

I like that a lot. Hey, Gary, something we always mentally struggle with, please can you post too much? I feel like I feel like I've seen you say you can never have enough content, And there are times where we post a video and then we have another piece of content coming.

I'm like, do we give it a breath?

Let me go very three to ZHO one instead of one on one okay, instead of a basic yes or no. I think your issue in that scenario is you don't post on enough platforms. This show should post three times a day on LinkedIn?

Wow? How about that.

On LinkedIn?

Yeah? Linked I don't even have a LinkedIn account. I really don't.

I swear LinkedIn is a viable, meaningful social network right now that this show would do incredibly well with because the reality is you touch a lot of subject matters that a lot of people that are professionals on LinkedIn want to hear about, not in business talk, just in general talk.

We're just in our feeds. I'll give you another one. I do not believe.

I'm gonna make a guess here that this show is posting on Snapchat aggressively massiveness.

So what's happening here? We'll look at that. Boss.

Everyone just say no, here's the bottom line. I think that the thing is is that you are only looking at one or two platforms as where you can post Twitter you can post all day long, just the way Twitter works, and Instagram and TikTok and YouTube. What about YouTube shorts?

Are you posting on We're doing subtube posting on YouTube.

Of course. Look, the fear is oversaturation.

As you brought up, the problem is oversaturation isn't real because people aren't seeing it nothing right. I always say that I wish I was in someone's algorithm the way like you're in my algorithm, uh Andy Santino and Bobby leear in my algorithm theo vons and like I feel like I see the same people and I'm like they must I wish they they.

Probably what's happening is you're showing to the platform that this is the type of content you like and or you like that person.

If you keep one thing I tell people all the time, you don't like your algorithm, you're the algorithm. You're the algorithms that here it is. You don't like it, Mute it, mute it. Start to mute accounts that are giving.

If a lot of people use fear and negativity to make you watch, if you feel like that's happening to you, mute it. On the flip side, if you see something you like, like it, tell the algorithm what you want.

That's the way to do it.

Speaking of social media, we're all parents, we're all dads, and a lot of times I see people coming up to you about they fear their kids seeing too much and being exposed too much on social media.

Makes sense.

You always promote don't worry about it, self esteem, that sort of thing.

That's that's the macro.

The micro is if you're eleven year old is on TikTok and you don't like it, take her or him off TikTok.

Right right?

What happened to parenting?

No, that's true. That's what I was gonna ask you about.

My parents didn't let me watch skin Amax. No, but you did, of course. But I had to go sleep over a friend's house.

I know you watch Scrambled Booby on TV.

I know it, But Scrambled Boobies was the nine House.

You You always say, you know, hey, if you work on their self esteem, you've got nothing to worry about. How do you build up a young person self esteem today?

Is it a reinforcement on real stuff? Not that they are good looking, or not that they got good grades, but when they act the way you want to make a to do about it. You see that your kid opens the door. You have a twelve year boy and he opens the door to an elderly woman or a woman when you walk to the restaurant, you better go like he just won the super Bowl. That whole dinner you see. You see all your kids friends picking on someone and they're like, come on, guys.

Like let them alone.

You go crazy.

My nephew Max told his best friend to shut his mouth because the kid he was picking on's mom has cancer. Wow, I will cheer him and say it on public things like this. I'm doing it right now.

Yes, you understand that on Fox Sports and uh again, one more question.

It is Super Bowl week Super Bowl.

I think in the past forty eight hours, more than anything, the narrative keeps changing a little bit, and it turned into you can't bet against Patrick Mahomes.

I'm a Niners fan.

It's it's it's killing me.

So your thoughts on that, because all of a sudden, he's like perhouse, but now you can't.

I forty nine Ers are gonna be able to run the ball on the Chiefs in a way that most teams haven't this year. And I think that's the thing that people don't see. They may not be able to, but if the Niners can run the ball, they're gonna win this football game.

I got a couple quickies. I know you gotta run.

Busy guy, Gary Veay, you talk a lot about like you love the you love the chase, and losing, you don't mind losing to why I'm a Jets fan.

I was gonna I'm a Mets fan.

And while as I was a little kid, the Niners won a couple of Super Bowls, they haven't won in twenty nine.

Years, so I'm thirsty for this. But then I'm like, if they win, does that chase go away?

Like?

Does party one part of you be a Jets fan? The charm of like man Gary really one? Nobody talks about the Red soxer cups anymore. Yeah, nobody gives a crap.

That is true to that? You actually Yeah, Tyler Swift effect real quick.

It great for the sport.

Yeah.

Do you know many families?

Do you have many twelve year old girls now love football that will be moms in twenty years.

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Well, again, we're gonna get to the fun bets. But the number one phrase I've heard in the past twenty four hours you can't bet against Patrick Mahomes.

I'm going to just saying I'm going to on every bets. Yeah, here's what I like. Christian McCaffrey. I feel like he finds the end zone every game automatic, Right, how about Christian McCaffrey finding the end zone three times? Now that is a lot, but we're almost feeling like one to two is guaranteed.

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The second most used phrase this week is the Chiefs defense better than the forty nine ers offense. And those people are saying, yes, so does that factor into your decision here?

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It's Cavino and rich Over, promised Fox Sports Radio. And we're here with actor and familiar face, but the first time.

We're meeting him. Bryan Bumgartner. Everybody, Yes, thank you, it's very nice to be here. Happy super Bowl. I'm almost here now, Happy super Bowl. I'm a Niners fan.

So this is like I'm sorry, you know, you know what it is.

It's a it's an underlying feeling of everyone else is like, yeah, super Bowl Week. In the back of my head, I'm like, this is a game to be played. I know you're a big Packers fan, so.

There is a game to be played. Yeah, you guys, Uh, you guys are fortunate to still be around.

To say, dude, my wife, my wife and her family Packers fans. Okay, so it's a battle in my house when that happens.

Yeah, but uh, you know, Packers.

Honestly, as a fan, you should be pumped because the expectation how the season started, how it ended drastically different.

Very different.

Yeah it no, Look, I I thought they would make it more of a game. I didn't think that quite frankly, that they should have I mean, they should have won.

I wasn't. I was.

I could not, cannot say that I would predicting that I might have liked the plus seven and a half though for the Packers, and that was successful.

So we're in Vegas. We got to discuss it, right.

There's so much random stuff I want to talk to you about. But yeah, being that you brought.

That up as a Niners fan, I'm so confused because you know, I'm trying to take my Homer mindset out of it, like Niners are going to do it.

They're favored. But the sentiment from everyone we talked to was like camp better against Mahomes. So what is it which one is?

Well, it's interesting, I this today is making me nervous.

I think the Chiefs are gonna win.

That way, he said, sorry to him, Yeah.

That's exactly what.

But I I feel I don't like that everyone thinks that because that means that were probably wrong. But yeah, I mean you can't bet against more. I mean I did twice in a row. Yeah, and I think a lot of people did. I had Buffalo and I had Yeah, Baltimore, and I was wrong both times.

I was gonna say, I mean throughout the season. I'm sure you watch every week like we do. Yeah, is it they figured it out late? Because I mean we're talking end of the season. They were like barely beating teams. They couldn't in the red zone field goalfield goal. For like all of a sudden, the Chiefs got it.

I guess, well, I think partly, I think partly I think that's true.

I also think that.

They have an elite defense, and I think that we weren't talking about that as much.

And then you look back and all of a sudden you're like, wait, they haven't let up any like more than thirty points.

Yeah, right they are.

Because I just had an episode about the Super Bowl on my podcast.

I looked it up.

I mean, anywhere that you look Fox Sports typically had them number two defense. Yeah, and every everyone had them in the top five, and most had them number two.

And so I think that's part of it.

I think that, you know, I can't be overstated that that, well, Brock is not looking like he did during the regular season. I know you have to at least acknowledge that, and Malmes isn't either, but in the opposite way. And I think I think that having been their thing, and look, I know that this is potentially totally overstated, but Andy Reid is a really really good coach. When you have two weeks to prepare, I know this.

This is you got to have a different level of confidence. But I don't think with that in your corner.

Sure, I don't think Brian those though that on opening night when they did all the festivities, when when we talked to the Niners, I went up to each one, I looked him in the eyes, and I said, are you ready to be a champion?

And they all said, yes, I feel that assessment.

You know again, Brian Bumgardner here on the Cavino and Rich show, over promised, and dude, you know your football.

You're a Packers guy. Did you play growing up? No?

I didn't.

I didn't actually because mostly it overlapped with with basketball.

I played. I played basketball.

So you were the guy that the coach has always looked at and they're like, hey man, we got to get you on the team. You want to play like you were that guy?

Yeah?

Were you good at basketball?

I was a good basketball Do you still play?

Everyone shoot around every once in a while.

You know.

I was in LA and US that's Los Angeles to you and me early on and I got invited to this like pickup league, like you know, like somebody rented a church gym and they played every Thursday night or whatever.

And I showed up and uh.

We were just going into they call it pilot season, right where you're auditioning for for new shows. And I am playing this pickup game and this little guy, this little this little energy guy comes in like Papa like trying to ba like backing them down, backing him down, comes in, pop up, up, whack, and his elbow right into my eye swelled up closed within fifteen seconds, and I was like, you know what, this is not This is not for me anymore, not for me.

Like pre office, post office. Is it weird when you do those things, because you know, it's.

Hard, because we always say it's hard to uh, if you're at a restaurant and you're at a table next to someone that's very notable, it's hard to have your meal and not be like, yeah, like is it Do people treat you differently when you try to maybe play a pickup game, because it's.

Like probably probably in part and by the way, the restaurant thing is fine, just don't just just don't take a picture of the person that you're eating with, but really take it of me, because I promise you I see it every single time.

That is my least. That is the least like.

Pulling out their phone.

You know, like, hey, I'm gonna take a picture of you and your pot, but the framing is like totally on me.

Come on, you know, tell us the perks though again part of an iconic show. Brian Bumgardner Here the Office, Kevin from the Office if you're just listening. You know, it has to work to your advantage when it comes to cool events like this or football, or when you're out and about playing golf, because there is probably that mutual respect because they feel like they know you, like yo, right.

Yeah, I will say I have less trouble getting a dinner reservation than problem, so they go you know that positive that that is absolutely so much so that I really don't make dinner reservations. You just show up and you know, until the day of I will yeah, like I don't. Yeah, but that's partly that's just I just like I don't know where I want to go on Friday.

I'll decide on Friday, you know what I want to be locked in?

You know what I find fascinating. I'm not even sure if you see these things. Lately, more so than ever, I'm seeing all these.

Hilarious office outtakes on like TikTok and Instagram.

Yeah, do you get a kick out of those?

And do you forget some of them and say, holy crap, I remember only should I remember.

That moment totally?

And I you know, I went back and I had this podcast that I put together which was an oral history of the office, and I watched the whole show start to finish.

This a couple couple of years ago.

I watched it start to finish, watch the whole thing, and yeah, it was It was amazing how much I'd kind of forgotten, and it was really fun for me. And in the moments you're talking about too, like you see something, You're like, oh, right, like I remember, but I guess on and I'm by the way, I have no vested interest in selling Peacock, but I guess Peacock now have released these extended.

Don't worry, we all have it because of the chiefs golf expense there.

Go, well, you could go back.

I guess they've released these extended versions. And I actually do want to go back because I think those things, those moments that didn't make the original cut that I haven't seen or don't have any reference to since we filmed them fifteen years ago or whatever. So I'm kind of excited to go back for myself.

Just to watch them.

That's cool.

I'm thinking, you're really funny guy when you're in a room full of funny men and women. Yeah, much like sports, when the competitions, you know, elite, do you feel like, man, I better be freaking funny today.

Like when those scenes keep going on, I got to bring it.

Obviously, it's like improv and Steve Carell and Ed Helms and Krasinski, everyone's, you know, one upping each other with great lines.

Is that where your competitive comedy comes out?

Or no? You know, we were such an ensemble.

But I will tell you this was again when I was putting together this podcast, I talked to Greg Daniels and he told me something that I thought that I knew, but him saying it was probably the greatest compliment that he ever gave me. You know, Sometimes we were writing and especially when the you know, the improv would happen and people would find funny things a scene. Sometimes it was difficult to find what the end of that scene is. And in the comedy world you call it a button,

The end of scenes.

And Greg Daniels told me when he couldn't find the end of the scene, he would go to the camera people and say, find Brian, He'll do something and I could feel the camera comes in and that's when I did. It was just a great look. It was just a those that that was. That's probably the greatest compliment in terms of of my television work that anyone's ever gave me.

Because speaking of that, no, that's awesome, man. And speaking of the Superstar ensemble again in the office, do you watch all the other projects because everybody's branched off and has been part of other cool things? Do you automatically tune in and you pick and choose, Like I just got on the Morning Show and I'm like, oh, that's awesome, Like.

Yes, So that's a that's a great example. I feel like sometimes, especially when I hear something is really good. Yeah, the short answer is yes, I really do try to watch. But I also I do this about every show I just finished, and it's embarrassing succession, like the whole thing through because I and the Morning Show is another example

You're not too late.

We had a friend recently that watched The Sopranos for the first time and be like, can you believe when Tony, I'm like, yeah, I watched that fifteen years skime.

Dude, you just woke up from the year two thousand. I don't you know what's funny? Is I just for the I had a long flight recently, not here, but I guess it's twenty or twenty five years or something from The Soprano.

Nineteen ninety nine was when?

Yeah, so it twenty five years. I just downloaded the first eight episodes on my iPad.

I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start Sopranos again.

Sopranos, other than The Office excluded, Sopranos is my favorite television show all time.

I saw a clip Brian I view it was a little while back now Celebrity Jeopardy.

Yeah, how'd you do?

I when I saw the clip yet zero did you?

It must have been at the beginning.

Yeah, that's fair. Hell, how did you do it?

And I heard you say that you had talked to Aaron Rodgers because he had done the guest ho was thing on how to how.

To approach Jeopardy. Yes, that's true. I in fact from outside of their studios. He and I finally connected and I was like, okay, I got like five minutes. Tell me, tell me the biggest advice. Uh it was. It was a lot. It was a lot of I did not win. Spoiler alert, I did not win. I just actually was told last night someone was bringing this up to me in the lobby of the hotel.

And I guess the person who won.

My match won the whole deal, which would have been multiple rounds, And uh, yeah, it's I'll tell you this.

It's all about the button.

All about the button.

It's all. It's all about the button. If you hit the button and everything even on your TV show, buttons in my head give it the button. If you hit the button before they finished reading the question, you get locked out.

Because you see somethings people like that's how you get past the zero that he saw.

At the very beginning.

But uh, you know, to tie it to sports, you were saying, the person that beat you went on to win the whole thing. Do you have the mindset of like, well, the team that beats my team, well at least I hope they win it all or you like f that team they beat my team.

It depends on the team. I mean, look, I gotta be I gotta be honest. One, there is a.

Well there is there is a there's a San Francisco, Southern California thing, so that that exists, particularly with the Giants and the Dodgers. I am a huge Dodgers fans, so that that plays into it.

You win one hundred and twenty five games this year, but I.

Think we might. Yeah, it's like you're no longer an issue for us. Sorry, No, that's rude and probably not I should not say that. But also the Packers and the Niners a thorn in the Packers' side maybe, is uh? All the way back to Kaepernick's record rushing game in the playoffs where I was, I was there. Niners fans, are you know here? What doesn't this doesn't get talked to? I can't believe I want to say this right now, there's people listening. I the Niners fan people talk about

Some crazy locals.

But I mean, is there is I sucks, no joke, no joke, there is like f bomb throw wings. They're like I was like, this is not and that was now that was the old stadium. But also if you were a fan and you went the walk, there were over the conc from the concourse, like where the concessions are in the bathrooms, like to the seats shook like shook like like this and You're like, okay, an earthquake. We're all gone, Like we're just all all gone.

But yeah, I don't know.

I do like so many of the players and components of the Niners team now.

But yeah, I mean I think the Chiefs win.

Well, enjoy the super Bowl, man, thank you, enjoy your time here.

Show you're saying you gotta run, but you gotta tell us real quick. P xgre Where the guys that are like we gotta start golfing, you know, we're like we're stage No.

I still play like softball and I'm getting hurt all the time, and I'm like.

You know, I got a golf I got We wanted to know like the best way to get started and get involund well, Yeah.

For me, it's golf has brought me. It gives me peace.

And I'm serious because people talk about, oh, you know, I have kids, I have this, I can't go out there.

For four hours. Well look, you spend your time.

To me, you have to find something that gives you a release and gives your brain a break. And for me, it's golf because when I'm out there work stuff goes away. Issues go away. It's literally like, how how few at times can I hit this ball and get it in this hole? And that's all I'm thinking about. That's it.

Yeah, And so everything else goes away and I'm outside.

It feels good, the vitamin D and it's like great. I and PXG. They call them PXG Troops in sort of an homage to Bob Parsons who started PXG Military Guy. It feels like a family. And their new clubs it's called black Ops and don't I don't need to sell them. They're just better that I played at a tournament. I've been doing this eighteen eight literally eighteen years. These celebrity golf things they got sent to me. The first competitive

I'll put them up against anybody.

And we got to get on it. Yeah, we really got to thank you so much for hanging.

Out with us so much. I appreciate it.

It's Brian Bumgardner here on the Covino and Rich Show, Fox Sports Radio over Promised. All right, welcome back to over Promised. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us all week here Radio Row in Las Vegas. Any of our shows catch our podcast just search Coveno and Rich wherever you stream your podcast. We had lots of great guests, lots of great shows, lots of excitement here on Radio Row, and now so much excitement this

Will he be the happiest guy going or the sandst guy going. Let's hope happy. I will see you next time.

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