Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Abby Chatfield's musician boyfriend runs into her ex Olivia Rodgers, reveals how she met her new man, Shani grimmand is forced to flee Bali, the Olympics, Anti sex Beds, and The Rise of the Man Perm. But first, Pajama entrepreneur Sophie Kasha has announced she's expecting her third child. And this definitely
wasn't on my twenty twenty four bingo card. I know last year we did influencer predictions for twenty twenty four and I would have never put this down. I had to look back and quite a few of those predictions have come true. We will revisit it at the end
of the year. But getting into this announcement, Sophie uploaded a carousel of images and in the photos, Sophie and her two kids, Bobby and Florence, are all lying in bed wearing matching leopard print pajamas from Sophie's brand of Course, with Sophie's pregnant belly on display, and in one image, we see a close up of her stomach with Kaisha branding boldly below it. I couldn't believe the product placement here. They say the devil works hard, but apparently Sophie Keisha
works harder now. In a couple of the photos, the family is also enjoying a pizza together, which was really random, and Sophie captioned the post mine now. This post led to a lot of confusion because some followers weren't sure if it was a pregnancy announcement and thought maybe she was referencing that she had a food baby because of the pizza. I couldn't help but notice that the kids
looked really miserable in the photos. It looked like they really didn't want to be there, and I'm wondering whether that's why the pizza was there, because she wanted to bribe them to be in it. Well, that poor kid Bobby. Last week, he was vomiting his guts up, so he's probably still feeling sick. I hope these photos were taken before that incident. Her bedroom helped a lot cleaner. I couldn't send any vomit marks on the floor. Doesn't this
add more to the story because poor Sophie Kesia. She might be suffering from morning sickness and she's having to or with everybody else's sick now. The Blue Tick Brigade was our enforce with Steph Claire Smith as she Binds and Abby Gilmour all congratulating her, and I was really fascinated to see what sort of engagement this post was going to get because Sophie's engagement rate has dramatically dropped
off over the past few years. So following her breakup with ex fiance Maddi Garrick, she vowed to no longer share private details about her life, which led to a lot of her followers tapping out and losing interest. And every time I seem to check in with her, it feels like her Instagram is one big ad, either for her pajama line Kasha or for hallow Fresh sponsorship deals. It doesn't seem like you're getting the authentic her or any insight into her family life or her relationships, which
is what we want to hear. I ended up taking a look at social Blade, which is a platform that shows you influencers analytics, and Sophie averages around one thousand likes per post, which is fairly low for an influencer with over two hundred and fifty six thousand and followers, and her engagement rate is sitting at zero point six percent. Wow, that is really low, because if you look at someone like Georgia Richards, she's around sixty seven thousand followers on Instagram,
yet her engagement is through the roof. It's around thirteen percent. But she has a very engaged community, and Sophie used to have an engaged community, but she's lost a lot of those loyal followers. She has lost five hundred and ten followers in the past thirty days. I mean, her pregnancy posts did fare quite well in comparison to her regular post, which is always the case with big life events. She got over twenty two thousand likes and eight hundred
and thirty five comments. I'm sure she also got a fuck ton of send ons because I think the announcement blew everyone's minds. No one was expecting. Well, you said it fed fairly well. It got twenty two times more likes than she normally gets. Yeah, I get that, but I'm saying other influencer announcements like this probably get hundreds of thousands of likes and she actually lost twenty six
followers that day. And usually when an influencer makes a pregnancy announcement or an engagement announcement, they get more people wanting to follow along with that life event because maybe they're in the same life moment. I saw this TikTok today that this guy put up, and he said that anytime someone announces they're pregnant, or they're engaged, or they're going to Europe with the love of their life, it's
an instant unfollowed. So maybe that's what's happened now. The day before Sophie made this pregnancy announcement, she surprised her followers by sharing that she's starting up a YouTube channel, so it's all making a lot more sense. And so far she has only eighty seven subscribers and she has
shared a two minute video. Wow. I'm not trying to bash Sophie because I know it can be tough getting YouTube subscribers, but you think if you've got two hundred and forty six thousand people on Instagram, you might get around ten thousand of those coming over to subscribe to your YouTube channel. The video that she put up isn't the great advert for wanting to subscribe because I don't know if it's a shorts, but when I clicked on it, it came up as a regular YouTube video. It was
all shot on her phone in portrait mode. It was her waking her kids up in the morning, cooking the breakfast, and then driving them to school. It was a two minute video. I would not tune in again. Maybe people who concerned she was going to show her day from last week which involved all that vomit, Well that video ended up getting eight hundred views, so it's clear that people wanted to check in see what it was about. But then we're probably feeling pretty uninspired to them subscribe.
Maybe she made a rookie error and tried to upload her YouTube short on her computer, because if you do it that way and not through your phone, that's when it uploads as a short video. Well, but then it didn't make sense because the thumbnail was a landscape thumbnail, So I don't know what it was. She's going to have to pick up a YouTube game if she wants
to attract subscribers. Yeah, it's clear though that she is trying to launch a YouTube channel off the back of this pregnancy announcement and reignite her former success as a mummy blogger, because in recent years, as we've touched on, she's been very reluctant to share about her private life and it has made her content very irrelevant. I wouldn't say that she's sort of in that influence of zeitgeist
at the moment. Well, she's smart enough to realize that she needs to share aspects of her life again to get her followers interested. Well, she originally built her core following off a blog that she created called The Young Mummy, and that's when she fell pregnant with Bobby a decade ago, and followers really loved her no bullshit attitude and how she would keep things very real. I just find it weird that she was saying only a year ago that
she wants privacy, yet now she's having a baby. It's like, let's put everything up there, let's invade this child's privacy. Who can set in my head we want privacy, like on that episode of South Park with Harry and Meggat.
I think her reluctance to share about her personal life has resulted in a huge loss of brand deals and also profits for her business Casha, And we've seen her in recent times sharing on her Instagram story about the huge water bills and electricity bills that she's been receiving, and she's more been talking about her struggles financially. So I do think that she is having to start this YouTube channel up in a bid to make more money
and to stay relevant as an influencer. Well, followers have noticed that Sophie has added the term single mum to her caption on Instagram. It's an interesting way to brand yourself because in the past she's been somewhat unrelatable because she's made so much money off social media. But by branding yourself as a single mum, you're sort of saying I'm one of the people. Get behind me, support me,
as opposed to pajama mogul exactly. Well. In January twenty twenty three, Sophie revealed that she was planning on having a baby with her ex fiance Maddi Garrett before they split, and she explained that they were on a waiting list for a sperm donut for nine months and she was supposed to be getting pregnant in January. So perhaps it shouldn't be such a shock for us that she's gone
on and done it herself. She was very frustrated after going through this whole experience and been put on this waiting list only for her relationship to fall apart, and she directed a lot of that anger at Maddie. I can understand her feeling that way, and there were rumors about infidelity which have not been confirmed. Well, she told a reporter to get so close and then have that split happen, it not only affects my relationship, but affects
my future of being a mum as well. It's such a big process to go through now for it to be taken away from me, so it is really lovely news that she's able to do this on her own. Good morning, I'm recording the podcast today. I don't know what to wear, so let's figure it out together. Olivia Rodgers has revealed how she met her new boyfriend Hugo. Now.
Whilst the two have so far kept their relationship very private, she divulged how they met in an Instagram Q and A, so she wrote, I love the story of how we met, so I'm happy to answer this one. She went on to explain that she was out in a bar in Melbourne when her best friend Paul Versaci spotted Hugo on the dance. He is such a wingman for Olivia because he was also friends with her ex Morgan Waterhouse. That's
a good point. I wonder if he's still friends with Morgan, because it would be pretty awkward now that they've had this very messy split. He would have had to take sides with Olivia. I think he must have known that Hugo was Olivia's type straight away because he has an uncanny resemblance to her ex husband Justin mckahn. Yeah. So he ended up approaching Hugo and went over and said, you're handsome. Are you single? I have the perfect girl
for you. I wonder if he initially thought that Paul was hitting on him, like I wonder how quickly he was like, I have the perfect girl for you. It's not me that's interested in you. Can you a girl over there? Can you imagine being this guy? Though most of the time when someone says they've got a friend, you're like, oh, okay, can I see a photo. It's literally Miss Universe Australia. This guy has lucked out. So Paul ended up going and grabbing Olivia, bringing her over
and just placing her in front of him. He would have thought all of his Christmases had come at once. Then Olivia said, the way Paul describes it is, there would love hearts popping in the sky all around both of us. Well. From the very few details I've heard about Hugo, he and Olivia seemed really well suited because both of them grew up in Adelaide. So Hugo attended
Scotch College, which is Adelaide's most prestigious school. When you say most prestigious, it's the most expensive school in Adelaide to attend. And a lot of people initially thought that they were family friends and that's how they met. But we've been told they met on the dance floor. Yeah, I was guessing it was like a dating app thing old school.
I would never have even been in this man's orbit if it wasn't for matt ending it with me on National TV and it being one of the most humiliating, painful experiences that I've been through in my career.
Whilst in Melbourne working on his album Peaking, Duck's Adam Hyde ran into his girlfriend Abby Chatfield's ex doctor Matt Agnew at a pub and instead of ignoring each other or being frosty. They sent Abby a photo together. I love that Abby actually shared this photo on her Instagram because it is such an iconic Risian. The first thing I noticed was just how different Adam and Matt looked. So you've got Adam the rocker with the big, curly hair,
and then you've got the clean cut scientist. Yeah. And I mean we were talking about Olivia Rodgers before. She has this cookie cutter type as she goes for, but Abby seems to have a variety of types. I've been saying that she was put on the Bachelor, where you know, she kind of had to go for whoever was there. It's maybe he wasn't her regular type. Now in the photo, Adam is doing the peace sign and Matt is sticking his tongue out. It looks like they're having a lot
of fun with the situation. And as you said, Abby instantly uploaded this to social media and wrote, Ah, when Adam sends me photos, it's usually either something horny or funny, but I guess this is a combination of both two of the loveliest men I know. If Matt Agnew had chosen me, I wouldn't have met Adam. So grateful all round,
everything works out in the end. Now, for those who don't have a good knowledge of Bachelor history, Abby came second on Matt's season, and the pair generated headlines when Abby and Matt were dry humping on the beach. And this is where that whole narrative of Abby being slut and being slut shamed came from. And this whole chance meeting between Adam and Matt really made Abby reflect on this whole butterfly effects situation. Here's what she said.
But here we are five years later and there's beautiful Matt with beautiful Adam. Matt and I are friends now and Adam I want to cry, and Adam is run into him in a pub and thank you, Matt, because you breaking up with me led me to Adam. After my time on The Bachelor, I got slut shamed really badly. I think my edit wouldn't have been the same if Matt didn't not end up with me. I then started writing articles about feminism, that a podcast about my opinions
on things. Then I got a radio show from that podcast being so successful, and that I met Adam interviewing him on my radio show.
Abby then went on to call Adam her soulmate, and she said that he is really the love of her life and they are just meant to be together. That's a big statement. They have only been together, well publicly for a couple of months, but they seem so cute together. I don't often ship relationships, but I do for this one. I think it's because I love Coka Spaniels and they shared two Cocka Spaniels together and they look like their Cocka spaniels. They both got brown kelly hair. They're those
people who look like their dogs. Yeah. And also I think it shows what a great guy Adam is because a lot of people's boyfriends wouldn't really want to hang out with their girlfriend's ex. And the fact that he had fun with it and took a photo, well, yeah. I want to point out that Abby said that she and Matt Agnew are really good friends now, which is also quite rare. I'm going to Bali tomorrow and I'm not packed, and I do have a bit of work Bernie to get done. Shanni Grimman has shared about the
scary moment she fainted in a nail salon in Ballei. Now. We spoke last week about how Shanny was back vlogging on TikTok, and in her most recent video, she showed her followers her prep for Ballei, which included taking constipation medication. Now, poor Shanny, she only lasted three days in Balley, so she told her followers when she arrived on the island, she was suffering from really bad PCOS symptoms, so she was nearly a month late for her period and was
feeling quite dizzy and had a sore stomach. So while getting her nails done in a local salon, Shanni remembered telling her friend live she didn't feel well, and the next minute Shanni fainted and it was very lucky her friend was there because she ended up catching her before she hit her head on the ground. This is why Barley doesn't appeal to me. It's either so hot and humid that you feel like you're gonna faint or you're shitting yourself from barley belly. Like it's either one or
the two. And I think Barley is one of the worst places that you can feel sick because there's just it's such a chaotic place. Like you obviously you've got these beautiful villas where that you can relax in, but when you're feeling sick or you have diarrhea. There's no place like home, on your own toilet. You don't really
want to be going to the hospital over there. Sharnie said that her pcos cramps continued on for thirty to forty five minutes while she was lying on the floor at the nail salon, and she ended up sharing a photo of her acrylics half done and also a photo of her lying on the floor on her Instagram story. In the Bali prep flog, she was showing her audience the new camera that she picked up, and when she picked up the box, that's when she broke her fingernails.
It's a butterfly effect, isn't it. We're seeing it seeming to laugh. Because she ended up flying home straight away to Queensland after this incident, I could just imagine her sitting on the plane having to look at her half done finger I hope she's had time to get them fixed. For those wondering about the cardboard beds the village, I'm going to show you what they look like now, Sophie. The most talked about part of the Olympic Games so far has been the cardboard beds. So they have been
dubbed the anti sex beds, and athletes aren't happy. This is how night one went on the cardboard beds. It's actually rock solid. We're trying that you can slip them over. Apparently there's a softer side, but that was the soft side. So there's a misconception that this bed is just made of cardboard. The actual structure is, but it does have a mattress on top of it, which doesn't look particularly comfortable. Why are they using cardboard? Like these poor people, they've
trained the whole fucking lives to be there. They need to get a good night's sleep, and they're having to sleep with a cardboard frame. Well, it's not the first time this cardboard bed has been used. So it made an appearance in the Tokyo twenty twenty one Olympics, and at the time there were rumors swirling around that it was brought into stop athletes having sex with each other and potentially spreading COVID. Why would that stop them? I mean,
these are athletic people. They're probably not even having sex in a normal bed. There's plenty of places around the village that they could have sex. Well, this whole idea of this being an anti sex bed has already been debunked thanks to TikTok. So multiple athletes, mainly divers, have jumped onto the app and they've shared videos of themselves jumping on the bed and some assaulting on it and doing flips just to show that this cardboard bed is
actually very sturdy. It's so exciting that all of the athletes have TikTok because we're going to be seeing such a different side to the Olympic Games. We've already seen a couple of the female athletes calling out their uniforms that they're wearing to the ceremony. I'm going to touch more on that on Tuesday's episode because it is fascinating. We've put up a carousel going through some of the
outfits throughout the decades. Yeah, can't get over the nineteen eighty four uniform the athletes wore to the la Olympics. There is this yah dress which almost goes down to your ankles and it has like koalas and kookabarras, all the Aussie animals all over it. It is so garish. I actually thought it was satire until I looked more into it and saw them actually at the opening ceremony wearing them. It happened Kim Vis. I disagree. I think it was very patriotic. It was very patriotic, but it
looked like something that Kath and Kim would wear. Yeah, one hundred percent. Well, just back to the beds. The real reason behind the cardboard beds is actually due to sustainability, so the organizers of the Paris Olympics have promised to keep emissions for the games historically low, so that means the poor athletes are stuck sleeping on these very uncomfortable beds. I don't get that though, Why even bother to have this POxy cardboard bed frame. Just put the mattresses on
the floor. If I was an athlete, I just want to bring a blow up mattress. I think you get a better night's sleep on that. But on the topic of athletes hooking up at the Olympics, there's a photo that has gone viral of tennis player Carlos Alcarez and the women's hockey team. I don't know if you've seen it floating around, but to set the scene, it shows the twenty one year old tennis superstar surrounded by blonde fit female hockey players and you can just imagine what
the comments section looks like. So former world number seven tennis player Marty Fish wrote, you ain't sly Carlo Well. Another follower added, cardboard beds, don't worry the young king. I'm curious, do the athletes actually have to stay in the village or can some of them try and get an edge by booking out a really fancy hotel because it doesn't sound comfortable staying in these beds. Or you're
being kept awake because people are partying with girls. Yeah, well, there are a lot of high profile players who choose not to stay in the Olympic village. Novak Djokovic is one of those, but our Karez said he wanted the true Olympic village experience. But the Olympic Village has a
big reputation. So in twenty twelve, American olympian Ryan Lotch told reporters that seventy to seventy five percent Olympians are having sex in the Olympic village and as a result, there have been two hundred thousand condoms brought in to the Olympic Village in Paris for this year's Games, so that equates to around twenty per athlete. That's why it surprises me that Novak Djokovic doesn't want to stay in the village because he broke up with his wife in March.
There were rumors that maybe there was some cheating involved, who knows, but I thought he might be wanting that experience to go and meet some new labels. Well, I think the issue with Novakis he has never won a gold medal, so I think he's taking it pretty seriously this year. You can imagine you'd have quite an edge actually sleeping on a proper bed as opposed to the
cardboard ones. Just to put the condom's stat into perspective, At the two thousand Sydney Olympic Games, they initially ran out of condom, so they had seventy thousand to begin with and they had to go and order another twenty thousand. But the Olympic Games that had the most condoms available was the twenty sixteen Riol They had four hundred and fifty thousand. Surely there's a condom Brown that is getting a sponsorship deal out of this, like the official provider
of the Olympic Games. I mean, you're going to be having some pretty athletic children if one gets through.
Everyone in my comments is are asking you what kind of perm I got this time? So here's what you got to do to get your hair to look like what mine does.
Right now, move over, mullets. There's a new gen z hair trend taking over TikTok. It's called the man perm. Have you seen this, Sophie. This hasn't infiltrated my TikTok feed yet, but I always remember growing up, my nana would say that she loved men with curly hair, so she would be curly top, so she would be all for this trend. Well, the best way to describe this new look is the fuck boy broccoli cut or other procoerly yeah or other people are calling it the zoomer perm.
So the best thing about this trend is seeing all of the TikTok boys sitting at the hairdressers looking like grannies with curlers in their hair. Why is it the zoomer trend because they're gen zetters. Oh so what these twenty year old guys are actually going to the hairdressers and asking for perms. Yeah, so they're having to sit there with all the chemicals in their hair. They've got the full on curlers and the dry shame anyone, because I think that it's great when people do take care
in their appearance. But I mean, I'm seeing everywhere. This is what's infiltrating my TikTok feed is women with hair rollers in, not men. But I mean, maybe I'm night have to tell my husband about this because he has pin straight hair. All of the hairdresses. He goes to comment about how straight it is that they can't get any sort of curl or he's not particularly lucky right now because they're saying that the perm has hit fever pitch.
And this is because a photo showing the new Superman David korn Sweat aka Clark Kent rocking a perm in the movie. Are you a fan of the perm? Should we get day or to get one done? Look, I think some of the TikTok guys are definitely pulling it off, but I'm not really a huge fan of curls on guys. A former colleague of mine actually used to get perms all the time in the eighties and he said it's the reason that he's gone thin on top. So I wonder what effect this is going to have for the
gen Zettters. Now let's get into our best and worst of the week now. To be honest, Sophie and I were laughing before because we're struggling to come up with the best because we feel like we've been working like dogs very time at the very very burnt out, and I think I need a holiday. Like I told everyone, I'm planning my honeymoon. And thank you so much for those who have sent in suggestions for Fiji. Fiji is very expensive. Yeah, I'm looking around after my comments on Balley,
I'm probably not going to buy. Do you know what it is we're saying we're burnt out? I think it's this time of year I was talking about to some friends of mine. Everyone was saying they just feel like it's cold, it's miserable. I think this is a period where you just put your head down and you get into your work. I'm ready for daylight Savings. I'm just over it. Like my partner and I keep sending messages being like over it. Can't stand this an There's only
one so many fires that you can have. No roast marsh mellows and enjoy. Now I'm going to start with my low of the week because that springs to mind faster than my high. And my low of the week was I was on a dog walk and I was on the phone to you, actually Amy, and my dog Archie. He pulled me to go onto this front verge and I'm walking along. All of a sudden, I am hit in the face by a tree stump, like a tree branch stump me. It almost knocked me out. I didn't
see it. It was this low hanging, very thick branch. I have a bruise on my head. I almost saw stars like. I'm like, I need to get new reflex. We work with a concussion management technology called new Reflex. I need to get new Reflex because I don't know if I've been concast or if that's adding to my woes of this week. But that was definitely my low. I can't help but laugh because when I was talking to you like ow, and I was like, what has gone on?
You're like, I've just walked into a tree, And I'm like, were you not looking for it? Was like, were you so into the conversation? But he said, my husband, why do these things always happen to me? Like this sort of shit follows me around? That's definitely so what's your high then my hive of the week is that my new shower taps arrived. Is that what they're called? Without telling me? So my husband organized them. We have the most dodgy shower at the moment. He always knocks his
head on it. Look at us. We're just you know, accident prone riveting. Yeah, so we've got this cool new gold shower head and taps we've got to put into the bathroom. We're trying to do slowly renovate. And also my in laws, who are absolute legends, they have just finished our second shed, which is in our outside area, so we can finally move all of the crap that is sitting in my office into the shed. You're gonna have to share some of your transformations because you and
Brandon have done such a good job. Like you've got this little outdoor area that you've managed to transform. It looks very pinterest. Oh, you've given me an opportunity to plug out. We're trying to start up on Instagram one of those houses for no Instagram, so it's called our Golden Hills House. We have one post currently on there at the moment. But Brandon is a videographer, so he's slowly working in the background, trying to do some before
and after stuff that we can share. But if you're living in an old house and you're doing it up, it might be fun to follow along. What's it called again, It's called Golden Underscore Hills, Underscore House. Now, my love of the week has just been how disgusting my bedtimes have gotten, Like I am going to bed later and later each week, and it's due to just staying up
late and doing work, which is so boring. We run two businesses and it's been really hard because with Kate on maternity leave, we're one person down for the podcast. And yeah, it's not been fun. Yeah, and Kate loves to pay me out because I like to track my sleep on my Apple Watch, and it has been quite depressing to look at those figures. But my high would
be getting my wedding video back finally. It's been six months, and it really portrayed the day well, like as in, so if you were complaining, we're not complaining, but you were saying how you were kind of embarrassed to show people your wedding video because it just featured a lot of brand and crying and it is like I have to say the videographer, she's an absolute prob. Like it's stunning.
It's a stunning video, Like it's very like movie s. I really wanted emotional, but I said, it's not like a video that you can watch over and over again, like it's sort of like it. You know, I didn't think that I'd be this person to have this emotional video because I didn't show emotion, whereas brand And cried the whole time. But with you, yours is like a really nice, like eleven minute run through of all the highs of the day. Yeah, he did a really good
job snapshotting that. Or one thing I've realized is how embarrassing it is actually to show people your wedding videos. So like for you guys, I didn't really care that much, but we had Dale's poppy and also his mum over to watch it, and you know, kind of you just feel embarrassed, like you're, yeah, talking about your feelings on this. You know it's been shown on the TV. It was
just a bit orkies. Yeah, because I'm waiting still to get my full video back, so I've got a bit of a highlight reel and I just came to the decision that I felt like it was almost too intimate to share on socials, Like, I mean I might put it on Facebook or something, but yeah, I mean I might get sent more of a like upbeat highlight reel. But I think my partner was like, please don't share that.
It's so embarrassing. I'm crying. I want to hear about other people's wedding videos, like did you share it on Facebook? My cousin was asking me the other day, He's like, so, what was the purpose of the video? Is it to share? And I'm like, well, it's kind of to look back on each year. Yeah, I'm so happy that we both got a video because it's going to be amazing to look back on and be able to show your kids. Well, I think that is all we have time for today.
Thank you so much for joining us. Apologies our subs episode has been pulled out a little bit later, but go and check it out. It is in the feed now. It's all about Hen's parties and a big thank you to everyone who joined in on Instagram. We put up a few polls. We got a few opinions on different Hens related topics. I feel like I've been a bit of a counselor for some people who I've responded to
because I'm feeling for that. It is really tough when you're dealing with a bridezilla and it's not a fun time being a bridesmaid or a maid of honor. Sometimes no it's not. But don't forget. You can follow us on Instagram and TikTok, and also on Facebook at Outspoken Underscore, the Underscore podcast Don't Forget to Go and follow Sophie's house page that she's subtly dropped before, and you can
also follow Sophie and I on Instagram as well. This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present.
