Hi, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Sophie Kate and Amy Torber. Coming up on the episode, we dissect mexit and the backlash that's followed. Steph clare Smith targeted again by thieves. Is social media to blame and the biggest Instagram fail of the week. But first, K, you had a pretty funny incident happened at work this week? Yeah, I did. It was quite embarrassing. I'm a bit of a shitsterir at work and I look after the influencers.
So there's one influencer a sports style that I've been wanting to come along to the thirty sixers game for probably like three seasons. Now, let's just name him because I feel like people want to know it's Travis Boke. So go everyone, go Instagram Travis Bok. That doesn't leave him. Feel like everyone from Adelaide will know Travis Boke. He has the most, he shares the most epic insta stories.
He's got this absolute palace of a house where he's got about i'd say three different fireplaces and just his epic pool. It's big, walking drobe cute dog. Anyway, Kay, what happened with him? Disclosure. I hate Port Power, but I love Travis Boche anyway, So he said that finally he was coming along to a game, which I was excited about, and so did you try and set this up? Kay? Oh yeah, yeah, well I have. I basically invited all
of the Crows and port players that have lots of followers. Anyway, So my boyfriend also works at the thirty six's and I absolutely owned him when Ali Odigin from The Bachelor was coming along. This was why we weren't actually dating, but he'd been going on in the office about how he was excited and drooling over her Instagram photos. So when she was actually there at the game last year, she came up to me and I was like, oh, Ali, you see that guy over there and pointed out Race.
He's so excited he hasn't stopped talking about the fact that you're coming to the game. So I was so wild. That's pretty embarrassing. Yeah, So I was so worried leading into the game because my friend Kyle and Reese are also going on that they were going to embarrass me. So fortunately I didn't get embarrassed, but I did go up and shake his hand and gave him his pass and then I just literally like chucked the other tickets at the other people that I didn't give a shit
about that I was. I was sitting in the crowd with my mum and we were just watching it all unfold because Mom's like, oh, okay, it's got the tickets and it was like watching this sick game. And I finally got glasses so I could actually watch. Thought I knew you'd lose your bottle to say anything, but that was the worst bit because Mum told me that she would watch, and I was like, I don't want you to watch, Like, stop making a big deal. It's not
a big deal. But anyway, it was quite funny. So soph I know, at the basketball you love watching mister fruit Chuck and Murray, But what else have you been doing this weekend? It's so random. If anyone follows Sophie on Instagram and they'll see that every time she goes to the thirty sixers game, that's all she uploads. Yeah, I'm a bit fond of mister fruit Chuck. He's very cute. But well, you see the person in there, but people don't.
People might not know who were not in Adelaide, where a fruit chock is what may they sell fruit chocks in Adelaide? Well? Are you serious? Yeah? That's an absolute travesty. Sorry, excuse our cat crying in the background, and he's been introduced to going outside and now he won't stop. I cannot believe they don't sell fruit chucks everywhere. You're serious? Oh god, this is going to be added to Sophie's
stupid comment. Oh send it to shit Adelaide again. Well, if anyone would like any fruit chocks, she should get him bloody sent there. Incredible. Anyway, this week, Brandon and I have decided that we're going to go to Bali. It's only like first week of the year and we already need a break from it, so we're gonna We noticed there were really really cheap flights. But now my job has been trying to track down every YouTuber's barley
vlogs to work out where I want to stay. Is it wrong that I trust them more than like the places on Trip Adviser. It amazes me how many crap vlogs you'll make brand and sit through. So I actually feel kind of a bit sorry for him. What he's going to have to look at now he likes the travel ones. Yeah, he's secretly he wouldn't watch knowing Brandon, he wouldn't stick through them if you didn't like them. You put yourself out your comfort zone this week as well,
haven't you. Yeah. I actually I learned how to ride a motorbike on the weekend, to mom's absolute disgust. So if anyone knows our mother, there's nothing more. I'm not sure what she hates more tattoos or motorbikes and people are not brushing their teeth. Yeah, it's a hard one. But so my boyfriend Dale, he's been riding motorbikes since he was twelve, and he was that like a humble brag. My boyfriend's been riding motorbikes since he was twelve. I
don't know. Well anyway, I'm just giving the facts here. And he was really wanting to teach me how to ride. And I didn't say anything to mom because I didn't want her to worry anyway. Wow, it's body complicated, but I managed to ride the motorbike by myself, and I was so proud and can I just interrupted here in the car. Amy gave me this full run through of how to ride the motorbike and I was actually like, I didn't want to be rude, but I was kind
of shocked at the level of detail. I don't want so. I was trying to explain how difficult it actually is, how I had a new fun respect for people who ride motorbikes, but it was it was funny. I told Dale to film me riding the motorbike to send it to you guys, because I thought you wouldn't believe me, And then I watched it back. I couldn't believe how small the motorbike looked, at how slow I was going,
and how shit you looked. I feel like this whole segment's been a big plug to follow our Instagram accounts because me uploaded this. I had a bit of a chuckle. You uploaded someone going really really fast. Yeah, well, I'll put it on our Insta story. You guys can see how stupid I looked ahead of every sort of neck brace, arm pads, everything on. Just in case I felt, did you have a mouthguard? No, I did it, but yeah, I nearly shot myself when I got in the back
of Dale's motorbike. I don't think I've ever like it. Seems like he was writing like two hundred k's but apparently it was quite slow and I just didn't shit yourself. We can't put that mouthguard coming into context. When we were growing up. Our mum's a dental therapist and she made us wear mouthguards whilst playing netball, a non contact sport. Haven't lived that one down, WHI should probably move on
to the first topic. This week, Meghan Mikel and Prince Harry have rewritten the fairy tale turning their backs on the monarchy. Megs. It has dominated our feeds after Prince Harry and Meghan Markel announced on Instagram they'll be stepping back from their jobs as senior royals and splitting their time between the UK and North America. The news has not only shocked the public, but the royal family will Peter to have been blindsided by the announcement, Amy, can
you tell us about how it to all unfolded? Well, the bit I love most I think about this story is the fact that they made the announcement on Instagram, as you said, and I think it shows just exactly what progressive royals are. They knew that that's where the eyeballs were, and the Instagram post was also used to promote their new Royal Sussex website and that's where they're going to be posting all their news. And they did have a pretty interesting media policy, which Kate knows a
little bit more about. Are you able to fill us in a bit more, Kate, Well, I suppose that's where the Instagram post has holds its most relevance because basically a part of the Royal media policy is they have to adhere to this Royal Rota which was established forty years ago and basically there's seven chosen media publications that are allowed exclusive access to their engagements and special events.
So you'd be pretty shocked to find out that out of these seven publications, the Sun and the Daily Mail are included. Well, the Daily Mail is such a fine media outlet, is a lot of people will also know that the Royals are currently suing the Sun for and when you say Royal, was Harry and Meghan suing the Sun, which I suppose, it makes what they had to say in their statement a bit more interesting in terms of their new look at the media. So what are they
actually doing now? Well, so, as you said, Harry is suing the Sun for phone hacking, His voicemails, and Meghan is also suing the male for the publication of private letters to her father. So basically, what I found interesting about this media policy is instead of going through this Royal Rota, they are now opening it up to fresh new, non established journalists that have you know, have a diverse speech.
I'm just putting it out there now. If they'd like to appear on Outspoken, well yeah, that we definitely take her. So basically, anyway, what was interesting about this Royal Rota is that the Royals actually can't upload anything to social media normally. So I mean I always thought, oh, where's Kate Middleton's Instagram? Where's Williams? But it's not because they
don't want to have it. It's actually because in order to upload any fresh photo of themselves it's never been seen before, the royal family have to pass it through this Royal Rota, who then have access to publish it wherever they want. Well, we're living in a time when obviously Meghan Markel as a thirty six year old and eight well when she met Harry she was thirty six. As a thirty six year old, she was coming into
the royal family. Obviously with her acting background, but also one point four million followers on Instagram, and even though she deactivated that account, it gave media time to get a hold of those pictures. So for Megan, it would be very strange going into this world where suddenly you can't even be sharing about your personal life. So taking back that control must feel quite good for her. Well.
I think that's why it was so powerful that they made the announcement on Instagram, the place that they're actually not allowed to post. Do you guys think that now this is all happened, her Instagram might come back? Definitely
for sure. They actually have said that now, you know, turning against the royal rota, that we are expected to see a lot more photos about their lives and they're going to be sharing directly with us, which I think it's amazing, Like what a cool thing that now we can actually see firsthand from the royals rather than going through the fucking sun to see a picture of Archie. And it's safe to say that Buckingham Palace, we're not really aware that this Instagram post was going to go out,
or so they would lead us to believe. Can you imagine the Queen's face seeing that? I mean one. I don't know if she actually has Instagram, so someone probably had to tell her. But can you do you think they have fake profiles? Well, Harry and Megan, not the Queen, but like other royals, I was sure they'd be private, and they have like five follows. Why why is Beatrice lad half one? She's She's one of the only royals with her own instrucause I think it's only the senior
royals that have to adhere. Maybe. Yeah, So the Buckingham Palace put out this pretty controversial statement. It was one line. It said, we understand their desire to take a different approach, but these are complicated issues that will take time to work through. So basically the rest of the royals are pissed off about From what I heard, Prince William was
enraged because he can't. I mean, he could do what Prince Harry has done, but there'd be so much more backlash where it kind of seemed like Harry, which is I think why everyone loves him, kind of sets his own tone. And we've got to remember Harry is sixth in line to the throne. I mean, and we've also remember, as you said, Prince William could do this, but as we've seen in the past. Does everyone remember what happened with King Edward and Wallace Simpson. This is history repeating itself.
That was pretty embarrassing. There was a Sunrise Live cross to some sort of royal expert in Australia and she was like, this is the first time we're ever seeing anything like this happen. Yeah, I saw that Sunrise cross. I couldn't believe it. I was like, oh my gosh. I went to look at the comments to see if
anybody else had noticed. So, for those who don't know, years ago, Prince Edward ended up falling in love with an American actress who was also a divorce a like Megan Mircale, and he ended up having to abdicate the throne in order to marry her. So that's when Queen Elizabeth's dad actually became the king. So if he'd never abdicated and fell in love with this American actress, we would never have the queen is there we have now? We never have Prince Harry. We never had this issue
that we're having. How ironic is it, though, that it's another American actress divorce as it's very scandious. She never heard the word diverse divorce are used so often. We should probably talk about what motivated their decision because it does run parallel to their media policy on their website. So it appears they were motivated because of the disgusting
treatment that they received from the UK press. You might remember a couple of months ago we did a podcast where we dissected Harry's statement regarding his wife's treatment from the British media. In the letter, Harry drew parallel to the press's treatment of Meghan, Michael and his mother, Princess Diana, who, of course everyone will know, tragically died in a car accident when she was trying to escape from the paparazzi. So he claimed that Meghan was being targeted by the
British press. He said he would be taking legal action against the publication for running a smear campaign against his wife. Now I find this found this quite interesting. I didn't realize all of the ridiculous claims the British press have made about Meghan, So were you guys aware of this? So during a charity book tour for the victims of Grenfell Tower, the Telegraph somehow linked the Duchess to supporting terrorism.
Later The Daily Mail reported that Meghan's consumption of avocado was fueling human rights abuse, draup and murder, and then The Express published an article with the headline claiming that Harry was miserable because she was such a difficult person to deal with. That's so disgusting. I also have been seeing a few screenshots of different articles pop up, and the different media coverage surrounding Kate Middleton and Meghan Markel has been astounding. Kate has been painted in an angelic way.
For instance, there was an article which showed how the press was saying how gorgeous it was that Kate Middleton was holding a baby bump, and then the next article by the same publication was slamming Meghan Markle as being, you know, so needy and attention seeking by holding her baby bump. It's quite concerning the difference, and it makes you think, what is the reason. Why Is it because you need to have Kate Middleton be this angelic figure because she will one day been you know? Is it
because Meghan Markle is wack? Do you not think that it might be encouraged by the fact that the Royal Rot which is publishing a lot of these things that
it's been pushed by the Royal family. There was a really interesting opinion piece on news dot com and it was talking about why Kate Middleton is really the biggest loser out of the royal split, and people may not know that the announcement actually came on her thirty eighth birthday, which was very much overshadowed by this announcement, and on her birthday she was photographed driving into Kensington Palace wearing a very unregal puffer jacket and she just looked really
upset and pissed off in the photo. Many people are reflecting on the fact that it might mean a lot of extra work for Kate Middleton. But what this opinion piece was saying that the most the worst that's to come from it is the women are already being pitted against each other, you know, but until now they were very much on equal footing. Both are in their thirties,
both of moms, both are obviously gorgeous looking. Now the fact that Megan has stepped out on her it's going to make things even more difficult because she you think about it, Meghan has now has the freedoms to be able to speak at any sort of international conference that
she wants to. She can actually talk about politics, she can wear whatever she likes without being I don't know if that's a bad thing for Kate Middleton on equal footings And if anything, I feel like Kate Middleton, as we said, is going to be the golden child now and every negative article is going to be about Meghan.
But if you think about it, Meghan Michael is going to be able to speak at World Economic forums at the un She's going to actually have put her mark on the world while also being but everyone's going to be tearing her down. Plus, I don't think they were on equal footings. Meghani Mirkal was thirty six when she joined the royal family. She had a full life, she was a you know, an actress, she had it, lived
a completely different background. I mean Kate Middleton was put into the same university as William Just to me, well, they say they're on equal footings, is in because at that point in time they both were living very similar
lives once they got into the royal family. Kate and I were actually having quite an interesting conversation today when we were preparing for this podcast, and we were discussing the fact that it seems like Kate Middleton has had a lot more time to get I suppose this royal thing right, and the fact that she's married Prince William, I suppose expectations have been completely different on her because she is in line to be the queen, her kids are going to be the You know, does she become
the queen or a princess? Because I'm not sure actually will I believe she does become the queen? In going back back? Can't just finished my point. The thing is, as you said, Meghan Markle has lived thirty six years as what he described as a commoner. She's been famous, she's had Instagram accounts, She's done everything. So it seems like her life so far hasn't been building up to
be a royal. What I find particularly interesting about this whole thing, which I we've touched on before, is the fact that they went through Instagram and didn't tell the Queen. So I think a lot of people, a lot of the opinion piece out there saying that they're pissed off that they think that they disrespected the Queen and Prince William and Prince Charles for not telling them first. But I actually don't think that they had the opportunity to
do that. I think that these news organizations are part of this royal rota, are so in with some of the family that they dictate what is going to be said. So, you know, we've had the Prince Andrew scandal, and a lot of the time there's been a lot of conversations around the fact that Meghan mark was being used as distraction. You know, there was rumors around Prince William and cheating
on Kate. Obviously, this Prince Andrew thing again. And it seems like the common thing coming out of all the publications to do with this royal rota is the fact that Meghan's a bitch? Is anyone else just sick of the way this narrative always plays out. I mean, people are comparing Meghan Markel to Yoko Ono except even worse. And what I find perplexing is the fact why is it always the woman? Why is that Meghan market? Obviously Prince Harry has had some say in this. He's always
been the royal that's been a bit rogue. He always does his own thing. Why does everybody care so much? Why can't they go and live their lives? I honestly think it's because the British people think that they own the Royals. There's all this backlash, Oh we paink for the renovation near Kernage's shut up, you don't fucking own them. Why do we not think that Harry wants to leave on his own accord. He has gone through a dreadful childhood of having his mother hounded by the press and
then practically killed because of their constant harassment. But the thing is they're not saying they they're not going to be a part of anything to do with the Royal Family. Their statement, I thought was quite respectful. They're just saying they don't want to be paid anymore by the Royal Family. And obviously if you're getting a wage or whatever it is from the Royal family, they own you and they
tell you what you need to do. They're saying, we want to stand at our own feet, we want to do our own thing, we want to talk to whatever media we want to talk to and push our own agendas. And it's quite interesting because it seems like there's a lot that they know about the Royal Family that they may potentially or be rumored to be threatening if they if the Royal found they're going to make this exit messy.
What seems to be at the brunt of this backclash is the fact that people think Harry and Meghan are having their cake and eating it too. People are pissed off that they think their money is going towards the funding of their extravagant lifestyle, but in actual fact, it's only five percent of the Sovereign grant, which is the taxpayers money that goes towards the Royal family that is actually funding them. So to dumb this down, they're only
getting five percent of taxpayers money. But what is quite interesting, which you were telling me about before, is that the rest of their ninety five percent paycheck is made up by money from Prince Charles, which is also causing a bit of controversy. Yeah, so ninety five percent of the income is coming from Prince Charles who owns the Duchy of Cornwell, which is a portfolio of agricultural investments, and that is where the money for Prince Harry and then
also Prince William comes from. But I'm guessing a lot of people are saying, well, that's bullshit, because he's making all of this money off being a Royal family member. Anyway. But isn't that just irrelevant because there's so many people out there that get money from their parents. It's not irrelevant because at the end of the day, people want to have access to the royal family and they feel that they are paying for the Royal family to have
this lifestyle. So the whole argument is, well, what, they can't be fucked to go and open these shelters and dood the boring parts of it, but they'll take the good parts with it. I don't know if that's at all true. I think the reason that they're leaving is because of the disgusting press coverage. I think they're also leaving because Meghan grew up. I'm not saying that's the reason they're leaving. I'm saying that's the reason people are
pissed off. What has been feeling at my feet at the moment is the amount of money people are speculating Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are set to make when they do venture to North America. It's already been announced that Meghan Markle is going to be voicing a character for a Disney movie, and apparently this was actually organized while she was still part a senior member of the royal family. It will be very interesting to see how
much money they do make off talks. There have been mentions that they're going to make six seven, eight figure amount of these talks. You know what. I feel like everyone's getting so obsessed with the money side of things. I do not think they're doing this for the money. I feel like if they just wanted to sit on their asses and have a cozy and have an easy lifestyle, they would continue to be a part of the rule.
I suppose the whole money thing comes because the fact that they said that they want to be financially independent. I think they were saying that they wanted to be financially independent, so people would actually like that, because they're saying, we don't want the money. We just want to go and do our own thing. I don't want that speculation, we don't want to have to abide by all this
bullshit rules. We don't want to talk to this bullshit media who were hacking our phones allegedly and doing all this bullshit. Now that I think people are just focusing on the money to be negative and to tell can I ask you, do you think that taxpayer money should pay for their security? Then I don't see an issue with it because Harry has been born into this situation.
He didn't ask to be Prince Harry. The argument could be should they protect Meghan because she knew what she was getting into, But at the end of the day, Prince Harry didn't ask for this. He can't help who he falls in love with. He is sixth in line, so yes, for all the bullshit he's had to put up with, I don't understand why they can't pay for
his security. Now, moving away from the money, the thing that has captivated me the most with this announcement is the fact that Megan Michael has shown girls and women all around the world that there is so much more
than just dreaming about becoming a princess. Elle magazine wrote this amazing piece and they spoke about how, you know, Meghan grew up in a time when being a princess was everything, and she basically had what every girl wanted to be part of the British royal family, and that she achieved this dream in front of so many people, Yet she decided last week for her that that wasn't enough for her. There was so much more to life
than just living this lifestyle. I think Princess Diana showed being a role isn't all it's cracked up to be. I do like the whole and allergy that she's rewriting the fairy tale because I think I don't know it. Actually, even though I said I was shocked initially, it doesn't really surprise me thinking about it now, because if you look into the you know, if you look into Meghan Markle's life, she's always been a pioneer. She's always sort of fought for women's rights and being a princess that
doesn't really fit in with me. It's basically what Princess Diana did. Obviously she got divorced from Prince Charles, but she didn't have to divorce him. She could have stayed unhappily married for many years. So I think Harry really is following in Diana's footsteps. So I think that's why everyone, most people, most sane people, young people think it's fantastic.
I think when Meghan Markle was first introduced to us as Harry's new partner, there was this strong hope that she would become the next people's princess because, similarly to Diana, she's obviously very intelligent. She has feminist principles, but I feel like she's done so much more by making this move, because she showed us that you don't have to be this perfect princess and that maybe our princess dreams of
being mispoortous. She is the modern day princess because these days women want to say what they want and do what they want. So she's exactly doing well. She's showing that you don't have to speak, you don't have to compromise yourself because there's a stronger there's stronger forces that are trying to bring you down. Do you know what though, if you look at Princess Diana, she only became the people's princess when she separated from Charles. That's when she
started dropping all the bombs. That's when she did that explosive interview where she revealed all of the dirty secrets that were going on about Charles's affair, that she threw herself down the stairs, that she had on Erexit. Also, her charity endeavors too, which is what Harry and Meghan a big part of why they want to break away. They want to do that, they want to back the charity that they chew. Well, that's what I was going
to say. I mean, when she was separated from the royal family, that's when she could start doing all of those amazing charitable things. So perhaps we are going to see Megan Mirkl become the people's princess when she's away from the royal family and she's able to do what she wants to do. It is quite interesting to consider why people are so against them doing things a little differently. I mean, exactly what is going to be gained by forcing a young couple to remain entrenched in a situation
that isn't working for them anymore. Yeah, well, we will finally find out what the go actually is with this because today in Britain the Sandringham Summit is being held, so basically it's the big crisis meeting between the family. The Queen has called in Prince Harry, Prince William and Prince Charles, and Meghan is actually going to be on the phone, which would be interesting because she's back in Canada with Master Archie. I heard she caught a budget fly.
She sneaked back back to Canada, So no Royal jets or anything like that, but that was pretty cool. Yeah, well, so can you imagine the shade on the flone. Yeah, I would joined us on the phone. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. What seems like the Queen is pretty content on making the fallout as minimal
as possible, even though I don't think that's possible. I'd be really interested from a pr perspective to see them what the hours that they're clocking up trying to solve this so it comes out in the best interests of the royal family. What is going to be really interesting to see is the resolution of this conversation, because a journalist of the name Tom Bradbury has actually come out.
He's close to the family and he's warned that things might not be that great for the royal family if it isn't resolved with Harry and Meghan basically set to dish the dirt. Yeah, from what they're reporting, there may be a new royal scandal if things don't go their way, because they're threatening to dish dirt on stuff that's gone on in the royal family, including racial slurs, sexist comments,
that kind of thing. So I don't think they're threatening to dish the dirt, but they're basically going to dish the dirt if it's out their bargaining tool. Perhaps, Yes, I think it is because in the popularity polls at the moment, all of those the Queen and Prince Harry and Prince Charles are pretty high up there, just like them. But I think that their popularity may plummet down once this dirt is dished. Yeah, so I can't wait for
the outcome of this crisis. Talk moving on to our new segment, and it is the Pit and Peak of social Media. This week we will be looking at what are some of our favorite moments that have happened this week and what are some of the most controversial. Now kicking us off cake, can you tell us about the peak of the week that involved a friend of the podcast, Sam Magnan. I loved this post. It was an Instagram story of the legend Sam Magnan, who is a pr
god put up. He has his own podcasting. He's pretty loud and proud about the fact that he doesn't give in to uber driver's demands to meet them on the street. Instead, he actually makes the meet at the front door. So he had a screenshot from a conversation he'd had with an uber Eats delivery person. The person said I'm out the front, and he said, I'm at my door. I
just found that so funny. I have great respect for that because they do try to pressure you into kind of meeting them halfway, and it's like, I'm paying for this delivery, So could you actually do your job? I always crumble and go outside to meet them. And Amy, would you like to tell us about the pit of the week, Well, the most embarrassing, Well, the pit of the week is a US Bachelor contestant who actually feel
a bit sorry for her because it's so embarrassed. So she's on the latest series and she's got her Instagram account set up and basically she went to write a comment under her post in a fake name, but was logged into her own accounts. So it seems that she's been commenting how great she is under pictures of herself. Yeah, it was a comment about how real she was, Yeah, You're so real, except it was her own official account
commenting how real she was on her own photo. She's copped a lot of shit online, but her friend who runs her was apparently running her account while she was in lockdown, has said that she actually went to write the comment in a fan page or something, and that's how it's happened. Have you guys ever done that before, as in, maybe not to the extent of having fake Instagram accounts, but where you've text message, you've sent a text to somebody that you didn't mean to or all
the time. That's a worse feeling. Oh I did it. At school. There was this girl who were kind of friends with and she would constantly bludge off school and it was probably the fifth day she'd bludge because she had a sore arm has a bit over it by then. Let's just say I remember her saw it was sore because she walked and it brushed against the site of a wall. That's goool, And then she'd have to wrestling anyway, hypochondria.
And I text her being like I thought. I was texting mom, like can you believe this girl has been away again? I can't believe it. And then I had to play it off like I was like, oh, I'm saying I just can't believe you're on well again. She didn't know we weren't friends. Shortly after that, Now, moving on to our next topic. On Friday, model and fitness influencer Steph Claire Smith stepped out to celebrate her twenty
sixth birthday with a romantic dinner with husband Josh. The newlyweds shared the evening with their combined one point six million followers on Instagram. Later that night, thieves stole Josh's Blackoudi straight out of their garage. Just five months earlier, the influences were victims of a smash and grab when their passports were stolen while dining with friends. Now there has been a lot of taught that social media could potentially have played a big part in this, So if
what's your thoughts on all of it? It was really interesting to watch this whole incident unfold on social media. Social media was used in several ways. Firstly, it was really interesting to note that before this robbery happened, they were very much posting about their whereabouts and actions that night because, as you mentioned previously, it was Steph Klea Smith's birthday, so they were out at a very fancy restaurant. The robbery actually happened at two thirty in the morning.
So my initial gut feeling, and I'm obviously not a police officer here, but because these robbers would have known that Steph and Josh were out, they had time to scope out the building, They had time to work out where they could enter the garage to steal the car. It was. Is that what you guys gauged from the incident online? Well, I think it's a warning to influences all around the world. They just have to be so careful. I mean, remember when Kim Kardashian was held at gunpoint.
I know that incident changed her social media behavior. She no longer posts her Insta stories when they're happening, so she'll save them and then upload them later. Did anyone notice that the fact that Josh's car had his registration it was Jane Miller as well. It's a pretty identifiable AUDI. You don't see too many of them. Well, you do
see a lot of beautiful cars in Melbourne. But the faight that had those normal plates, Well, Steph was saying online that the robbers may have obviously removed the plates to get away with this. What is quite startling though, is in August last year, Steph made headlines with mainstream media because she put an emotional plea on Instagram when
she had her passport stolen. So they were also out at dinner in August with some friends and Josh's backpack was in one of the friends cars and there was a smash and grab incident where robbers took this bag out. Do you think it's Do you think it's something that they're wanting to get from Stephan Josh because in Josh's message on Instagram, he did say that there were items in the car that were very important. He didn't really
go into it, but it seems very targeted. Yeah, I definitely think it's targeted, and I think social media was used at it as a tool to know their whereabouts and how to sneak into their house. It's actually quite timely because people who listen to this podcast will know. I'm a huge fan of Facebook Marketplace and ive just been selling my absolute shit online and I was thinking the other day about Facebook Marketplace and could that potentially
be a tool to rob people? Because no one was anything good on there though, No, but to know when people are going to be home, because I had some person say they were going to go, oh, can I come over now? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you can come over. They never came. I asked them so many times, are you coming over? Blah blah and never responded and then messaged me, Willy Nelly, are you home? And I actually wasn't home, and I thought, did you give them
your address? Yeah, and they'd already had my address. I was like, I don't want to say I'm not at home because they might come and rob me. So when I heard this news about Steph and Josh, I was like, Ooh, the weird thing is that they chose to rob them when they were at home. I felt so sorry for Steph. She was putting up some emotional Instagram stories about how upset she was, and this was all while she was
trying to celebrate her twenty sixth birthday. I was actually fearful though, that she might get some backlash because she was, you know, being pretty honest about how upset she was. I was like, God, I hope with all the bushfires going on and people have been dickheads, that no one was gonna tell her off for being upset because this is a legitimate reason to be upset. Well, let's let's
be honest. Regardless of whether she's right or wrong, there's always going to be someone on social media who has a problem with it. No one's ever happy on social media. It is becoming quite a problem. Obviously, social media is becoming more prominent and people are using it in the everyday lives, and police said that over the past two years,
there's been two dozen celebrity burglaries across Los Angeles. So people like Kelly Clark's and Hillary Duff, Scott Disick, even Kendall Jenner are just some of the celebrities that have experienced break ins. And what is most disturbing is that the majority of these celebrities houses were broken into after they've made posts online about their whereabouts. It's all the instera stories, isn't it. Because a Whitney post a picture,
it could have been anytime. But it's the fact that insta stories keep you up to date with what people are doing. You know exactly where they are. The instant nature is what's putting them at risk. Well it's even Twitter because Rhianna she put up on Twitter that she was at an event in Dubai and that evening her house was burgled. So it is quite scary. All the different platforms they've got. Shul think they've got security though
when they're away, well that's the scary thing. I think with like Steph Claire Smith, who you wouldn't say is on the level of Rhianna or the Kardashians. It's kind of scary for her because she doesn't have personal security following her around. She's a big star in her own right due to social media, and you know, all these influences have a lot of expensive things don't seem to have the security to actually protect them. But it's even
for non celebrities. If you're posting a lot on social media about being out and or you're on holiday and people know where you live, that your house then becomes a target. So it's kind of a bit concerning because it makes you think, well, how do I use social media? Do I not post in the stories when I'm out? Do I not give my address to people on Facebook, Marketplace?
Or you know what I mean. I think this incident does show that we should all be a little bit more careful and put a bit more thought into when we are sharing. As you say, and now we're moving on to our new segment, which is called Who's on Our Feed? And this is where we're going to detail some of our favorite influences of the week. Sophie, I was kind of surprised to hear your new favorite, but then after watching her content, I'm also sold. Tell us
about your YouTuber of the week. We might be surprising to some, but her name is Anastasia kings North and she is a nineteen year old British girl who I have literally become obsessed with watching her YouTube. So if just likes her because she says taco likes how taco to taco? Yeah, there's been an on running debate of the pronunciation of some of the Mexican foods. Anyway, she has some incredible content and what I'm liking about her
is she is incredibly consistent, incredible. She's incredible, incredibly consistent. She's also not afraid to share, which I think what a lot about Australian influencers are lacking at the moment. She shares everything. I think they share until they get too big and then they don't want to share anymore. But she does cool videos like I've only eaten pink food for today, Here's my mac Donald's mukbun Like Taco Bell and Bunk, She's just constantly pumping out content, whereas
it's just it's not just vlogs. They actually all have a theme. Well, what is interesting is she has her black her back vlog channel, so that's where she will share her vlogs that people like to keep up with her. But then she will have her main channel where it's actually curated content. And the one that caught my attention this week was her say it or Shot It challenge with her mother. Now, her poor mother has copped a lot of backlash from some of her followers. She's been
criticized for having weird eyebrows. Go check it out, make kept your own mind. Whether you like the idea weird, they're a bit weird. I love the mom. It's funny. Well, I think it's first best to preface it with the say it or Shot it. They have to ask each other really awkward questions and if they don't want to answer the question, they have to take a shot. And some of the questions that Anna Stage asked her mom were hilarious and she answered them. They were pretty brave
to share it with one another and also online. The funniest was the mother sharing her Tinder experience. It was so cringe. Now. These messages consisted of her sharing the fact that she hasn't had sex in six years. It was her cringe comments back and forth to the guy. Everyone has to go and check it out. It was hilarious. The conversation just went on and on like they just continue to read it out and it just got juicier
and juicier. And these were messages on Christmas Day as well, even though the mum denied messaging this guy from Tinder on Christmas Day. Now, I have seen this say it or Shot It challenge around YouTube a lot, and the thing that has frustrated me with a number of the influencers is the fact that they have all been asked the question, tell us your highest pain campaign on social
media or shot it? And I'm appalled that none of them have answered because one, it pisses me off more because it makes it seem like they must earn a disgusting amount of money. Yeah, it was just the arrogance, no way, And these are like load level influencers that are promoting like men shavers who are females. Just as a clue, we have decided ourselves though, we've been so inspired by this say it or Shot It challenge that we want to do it ourselves. So if anyone has
any juicy questions, I don't even think. I mean, people can send some in, but I think that we just have to come up with them for each other. Because I've got a few juicy ones I can already think of throwing in. We'll do a bit of both. If someone does have a question they think would be quite embarrassing or controversial, please send it in. And I think that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so
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