On today's show, Kurt Till's sparks debate over photography Workshop, Sammy Robinson's mystery Man named another Day, another outrageous post by Mitch Third, and Robert Irwin makes it official. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer in pop culture news twice a week. I'm Amy Torber and let's get straight into the show. Young hearts were breaking across Australia this week when Robert Erwin made his first public appearance with girlfriend Rory Bucky at the
Mission Impossible premiere. Now everyone is going nuts about these photos. So is it just because people are jealous? Because I'm not really into Robert Erwin. He's not really my demographic. Yeah, he's made the jen Z heartthrob. I think my partner has a bigger crush in than I do. I mean, he looks so young. They look very cute together in the photos they are. I think they're so cute. But a lot of girls are actually photoshopping their own images over Rory. She kind of looks a little bit like
a young Taylor Swit. Yeah, they look like a brother sister duo. I was I'm so happy when I saw these photos again, I'm not in the age demo to beat jealous over this actually a mixture of Taylor Swift and Bindi Erwin strangely. Sure, Yeah, a lot of people were commenting that they looked a lot like brother and sister in the photo. So what do we know about Rory? Well, there's a lot of talk about the fact that she is the niece of Heath Ledger. So her mum Kate
is Heath Ledger's sister, and she's nineteen. She's actually an identical twin sister, And I was thinking, how would the sister feel about her own sister dating this gen zed heart throat, like you'd be a bit jealous. Look, I'm sure it's probably opening doors for her as well. She probably have access to some other gen said Heartthrogs. So her mum Kate actually owns a design and media productions company, and her dad owns a floor coverings business. And Rory
keeps a very low profile online. Her Instagram is set to private and she has two hundred and ninety eight followers. One of those is, of course, Robert Irwin. Feel like that would have been a big strategic move before making an announcement that he has a girlfriend or before appearing on the Red Car. But I feel like they would have been a lot of deleting going on, of embarrassing stuff. Also, the account would have been put to private media. I kind of like that She's not this big influence, so
it doesn't seem like she's trying to gain anything from Robert. Yeah. Well, they've been dating for seven months now and most of the time it has been spent long distance. However, Robert is yet to post a photo of the pair together. I think his account will explode when that happens, partly with people's rage and jealousy and partly for those happy
with them. I feel like this public appearance, though, is kind of the green light for him to start sharing a lot of photos of them together, so we just have to wait and see. And I loved it because these photos have been all over the newspapers, all over
online media, and the paps have been following them. So they spotted Robert and Rory at Brisbane Airport and I loved it because Robert is seen holding a twelve pack of Krispy Kreme donuts and it just reminded me of that wild time when Adelaide didn't have a Krispy Kreme. Remember everyone was going to Melbourne Airport and they'd come back with bags and bags of it. I remember going to the airport and being like, I don't actually one of chrispy Kreme. I feel like I've got to get one,
but I need twelve. And now that Krispy Kreme has been opened in Adelaide for probably like ten plus years, I never go now. Rory and Robert's relationship came to light around the same time as that viral TikTok video
of a tourist at Australia Zoo. So basically, the tourist asked rob for his number, and Robert responded politely saying that the best way to contact him is through Instagram, to which the girl in the crowd responded saying, I've already messaged you on there last night and you haven't got back to be I remember seeing this. It was all on the morning shows that they were doing crosses to this young girl, and then it came out the next day that he had a girlfriend, so it was obvious
why he had sort of tried to shut her down publicly. Yeah, oh god, that is so embarrassing and if you guys are wondering if Bindi approves. Robert recently told Eane News that his sister was pushing for him to be in a relationship because she basically wanted him to take the heat off her. She said there's been so much attention around her wedding and a baby, and there's even rumors swelling now about baby number two, that she thought it
was time for Robert to take some of that attention away. Okay, hey guys, welcome back to the channel today. I'm going to be taking you on a photo shoot with us. Kurtiells is being slammed by some followers for what they think is a cash grab. Now he announced he is holding a photography workshop for beginners that will set butting photographers back five hundred dollars for an eight hour course. Now.
He announced the news on his agency's Instagram account, which is called House of Grom's, revealing that the workshop will cover the basics of photography. Now. He urged his followers to get in quick as there's only thirty spots available, so doing the quick math here, that means that Kurt is set to make fifteen thousand dollars for the workshop. I don't really get what the big deal is because I feel like Sarah and Kurt would easily make fifteen grand on an Instagram post, so I don't think it's
going to be a lot of money for them. Yeah, but it's I think it's the fact that it's a lot of money to other people to be making for one day's work. However, I thought it was a bit pathetic the outrage because a lot of these courses are tax deductible, so if you're a budding photographer or maybe you're needing to do the course for work, you can claim it as a taxaduction. Like, it's not a huge amount to be spending five hundred dollars on a course
that is going to help you with extra skills. I think people are looking at this as only eight hours of work and thinking, wow, that's an incredible amount to be paid for one day of work. But the reality is that there's a lot of time and effort that goes into these workshops, as well as a lot of expertise. I think people are just making a fuss about it because he's married to Sarah's day. I feel like if he was anyone else that was putting out a course,
no one would have an issue with it. It's so true because I follow so many photographers and videographers and I've seen someone doing identical course, except it was for three hours and it was four hundred and fifty dollars a spot. I was surprised that Kurt would actually give up a day of work to do this sort of course, And it made me think, do they need more money for House of Groms Because they recently bought this mansion on the coast for millions of dollars and they're renting
that out as a studio. I think they're looking for more of a passive income because they're also renting out the studio space for a daily fee. So I think they're trying to work out other ways where they can make money. Perhaps Kurt isn't required to be on location, because remember Sarah was complaining a lot that Kurt was out of the house filming at the Melbourne Cup. He was filming all these other clients and I suppose to stay.
And I suppose it's a way to get people to actually then rent their studio from them exactly, Yeah, ta train them up and charge them for the studio space. I think Kurt really wants to stand on his own and be known as a photographer. I have noticed that he's been very active on his YouTube account, which he has renamed House of Grom's, and he's been doing a lot of videos where he explains the basics of cameras and he tests out, you know, he shows commercials that
he's made. He's really trying to be like Peter McKinnon. Yeah, definitely, and I think that that's why it's really important to him to feel like he's an expert in that film. I don't blame him though, because he always has been in Sarah's Day shadow and I know House of Grom's is now the umbrella brand that has Sarah's Day and Sonny and all of the other brands underneath it. But I do feel House of Grom's more sits with Kurt.
We've seen Sarah talk about how she's never in the office anymore, that she's really taken a step back from her business roles and is wanting to focus more on vlogging and being a mum. It was really interesting because in Sarah's Day's recent YouTube video, Kurt brought up the fact that Sarah doesn't work as much anymore. Yes, I
think she looked pissed off when he said yeah. And it's quite clear because even he doesn't really make much of an appearance in her videos anymore, but when he does, he always looks so tired and it looks like he's been working really late. Yeah. Then that's why we're surprised he could give up a day of his time to actually do this course, because they act like he has just got so much on the go. I actually think it gives you a really good insight into how much
House of Grom's must charge for a day shoot. If they've added up, well, it's fifteen thousand for Kurt's time, yeah, exactly. I know it might sound silly, but I did almost enjoy the discussion about this because it almost seems progressive because a lot of the time it's only women who get judge for charging a lot of money for things. I feel like there's always this snark around women earning money,
especially Georgie Stevenson. Everyone seems to be so pissed off that she's earning a lot of money, And to me, I'm like, well, good honor. If there's people willing to pay for her wisdom and teaching through her course. What's the problem. I think there's a bit of snark around Georgie Stevenson's course because it is about manifesting, and I think a lot of people think maybe they don't know the ins and outs of the course and they assume that she's telling people that you can just wish for
money and all. Yeah. But she got recently slammed because she released a course of about her being a working mum and people like, oh, it's bullshit because she's got a personal chef and it's like, I understand that people are jealous about that, but she's still very inspirational on how she manages to have her businesses and be at MUMA.
Shouldn't we be applauding that. I can see where the annoyance comes from, though, because when you're grinding it out in a nine to five job and you hear, oh, this influence has just put out this new course, and it's you know, when they put themselves in this position of authority like to tell you how you should live your live. I don't see what people get annoyed. But she makes a lot of her money as well from her business Naked Harvest, and I think people go, oh,
all the money is just from the online course. No, so much of it's from Naked Hard I get that, but I think that at the end of the day, particularly when we're in a cost of living crisis, people get their back up when they hear that people are earning these exorbitant amounts of money, and it's hard not to be jealous. Yeah, but if you don't want to do the course, don't do it. Like people are genuinely
wanting something from Kurt and from Georgie. They want their knowledge, and that's why they're happy to pay the amount that they're charging for it. Like, why are you holding it? We're doing it. I feel like shit. I have been as sick as a dog. We're gonna flock together. We're gonna spend the weekend together. I miss you guys. On Tuesday, we discussed that Sammy Robinson has teased a potential new relationship.
So Sammy shared a photo from the beach of her silhouette cuddled up to another tool silhouette and she was spending the day at a parents' mansion, So it looked like things could be serious between this new love interest. Yeah, so on Tuesday we did put a bit of a call out asking any super sluice if they had any information about this mystery man's identity. Someone did message us saying, oh, it's Kate robertson her system. It's not well. One other
listener had a bit more information. They wrote in saying I saw Sammy and the other girl she lives with out at brunch in Bondai about three weeks ago with a new man. He seemed interested in Sammy. It's definitely him now Influence updates. They've also done a lot of the heavy lifting for us, reporting that they believe the mystery man is a guy by the name of Harrison Mattel and I did a bit of googling. It appears
that Harrison is a rugby player, not another one. So he is twenty nine years old and he currently plays for Manly. He also previously played professionally for Tonga, and he used to live in New Zealand. So it definitely appears that Sammy has a type because her previous ex Jordan,
was also from New Zealand and also played rugby. Oh no, I don't feel good about this, particularly if there's so many similarities It's pretty funny because I thought Jordan Simmy would be upset, but it already seems like he's trying to one up Sammy. So he actually did a hard launch of his own. So he attended the premiere of
Mission Impossible alongside his new girlfriend Tory Levitt. So he shared this really cringe video of him walking hand in hand with Tory down the red carpet as he stared back at the camera as you do, his poor friend having to film this. Now, Tory does have a profile. I think that she was actually the person invited to this premiere. She has one hundred and twenty nine thousand followers on Instagram and she is a DJ and vocalist.
She kind of looks a bit like Sammy too. She's very tall, tanned, very slim, and she's blonde, so almost from the back you could have thought it was Sammy Robinson. It's very interesting that they've both kind of soft and
hard launched relationships within a week of each other. Look, the only thing I like about this Harrison, this new guy Harrison, is the fact that he's only got two thousand followers on Instagram and his account is set to private, so I don't feel like he's looking for clout like Jordan, Also because I sometimes feel like fuck boys do have private Instagram accounts to kind of keep what they're doing on the down. I'm not trying to say he is a fuck boy, but it sounds like he's not after
the same out that Jordan's after. I mean even it just seems like he's still trying to take a swipe at Sammy and get under her skin by putting this out look, I feel like anyone will be an upgrade from Jordan, let's be honest. So I was in the shower and I'm like, babe, there's no body watching, and no body watch for like two weeks, and then he'll be and then he'll ask me questions that he knows
the answer to. It's been reported that Sky Wheatly's baby daddy, Locky War, is suing a millionaire travel baron called Danny giros Now. It all started when Lockie's business shop fit Co, was employed to do the fit out for Danny's latest venture, which is a burger bar. Now, Danny owns a number of venues as part of the Kokomo Living group, and Lockie is claiming that Danny has allegedly failed to pay him for part of the workshop Fit completed last year.
In his claim, Locke also alleges that he gave written notice to Komoko Living and Danny on November third, saying he was ceasing work on the burger Bar due to the non payment. Now it's important to note that Danny
denies these claims. Danny currently lives in a four point five million dollar waterfront home in Sydney, and it's also being reported by The Courier Mail that Lockie has lodged a caveat, which is basically a notice saying that Danny cannot sell his two apartments and his shop whilst this dispute is going on. Now Danny has admitted that the invoices remain unpaid, and he's counter seing shop Fit, alleging
their work was shoddy and incomplete. I'm really intrigued to see if Sky mentions this on her Instagram at all. I understand that it's a legal matter, but Sky quite often has outbursts over things that she's upset about that she's not meant to talk about, and surely this sort of legal battle would be putting a lot of strain on them. They are still doing renovations. They'd been doing renovations for so long, and surely the fact that this business has not paid or allegedly not paid sixty thousand
dollars that would be weighing heavy on them. Look. I hope that Sky does stay quiet, because, as you said, this is a legal matter. Surely Lockie would have clued her in and said, please do not say anything. I do feel for Lockie. It hasn't been a good week for him. Embarrassingly, he generated headlines on pedestrian because Sky accidentally exposed him in the background doing a poo on her TikTok account. So in the video, which has since
been deleted, Sky was chatting to the camera. However, clearly you can see Lockie in the background with his pants down to his ankles, doing a poo with the door open. I found it ironic because Sky always seems to be filming herself on the toilet, talking like She's always like, I'm actually just doing a piss at the moment. Well, it does kind of play into her sense of humor. But it seems quite apparent that neither of them realized
that Lockie was actually featured in this clip. Because a lot of followers had to message Sky and she immediately took it down. God, can you imagine the fight. I mean, I would have been so pissed off if someone accidentally put me on the toilet in the background of their TikTok. I think the thing that's worse is not even being on the TikTok, but the fact that pedestrian was reporting about it told me having like a stress poo over this whole court case, and was just captured on camera.
The fact that it said that his pants were down buys ankles. Do you think that's a male thing? Yeah, because I've never gone to the toilet and thought, I'm I pull my pants right down to my ankle. It gets cold, especially in winter doing that. It's not even a cold thing for me. It's just like I feel really exposed if I'm like on the toilet and I've just put my pants right down to my ankles and just sitting there with my little legs out like. I don't know. I think it's because men have hairy legs,
so they don't feel the cold as much. When I walked in on your partner on the toilet accidentally, he had his full pants down to the ground, hairy legs out. There are also those men that say they have to completely get undressed to go to the toilet as well. It's like another kettle of fish, because I've heard that. So like they sit there completely nude. Yeah, they have to actually have no clothing on while they do a shit for some reason, kind of complex about it being
dirty that they don't want to dirty their clothes. To me, I find it dirtier to have to take all your clothes off and like put them on the ground and then and how do you do that? At work? I've heard people showering as well after they go to the toilet. Well, well every time time. Yeah, there's some people who do it every time they have a shower. So that's why some people, Yeah, that's why some people will drive home from work so they can have their shower or hold
on until they can shower. That's absurd. What's up YouTube? My name's Mitch Third and I'm the founder and CEO of Australia's number one shake a bottle Third Fix. Mitch Third is at it again. Over the weekend, he posted a photo of his kitchen bench filled with healthy food. He then uphold his followers by captioning the post your goals are irrelevant if you're fat and unhealthy health first. Is he just trolling us now and trying to put
out the most offensive content he can just for headlines. Yeah, where he has spoken about not caring about being canceled and that he wants to speak his truth. I mean, he's trying to tout himself as being a motivational speaker. It's like he's trying to have this point of difference where he's not very telling it how it is, like, it's just crazy. Okay, you had a classic one liner the other week where you said that Mitch Third's followers were all fuck quits. I think I said that they were.
Oh I did said that quick. Yeah he's dead by that. I mean, if this isn't any more proof that Mitch Third and also his followers are fuck with it's a very odd move when you're bringing out a new brand, like he's bringing out energy drinks, but you're alienating a whole portion of the community by saying basically, you're worthless if you're fat, how disgusting you. It's definitely not very motivating. Just shaming someone and ruining them their self esteem and
saying you shouldn't have any goals if you're overweight. How does that make any sense? Do you think that Talia Scanes was sort of babysitting him a bit when they were together in terms of yeah, like saying maybe don't put that out, or like because she was worried about how it might affect her brand. Because it seems like he's gone rogue since they broke up. I think he's gone rogue because he's no longer relevant. She was the one who made him relevant, and he's having to grasp
on to any sort of attention he can get. I don't know about that, because I've heard more about him as an individual since he's broken up with Tyliascines, Like, he definitely used her profile, but he really is trying to make something of himself, and I do think that's why he is saying all these ridiculous comments. She's had attention, That's what I'm saying. He's trying to say all these outlandish things so he can maintain relevance. He's known as
this idiot who just says offensive shit online. The interesting thing is that most of his followers originally, of course, would have been followers of Talia Skins. It would have been young women, but this is not the sort of content to keep young women interested and invested in your life. He's obviously going for a very different demographic. He's definitely going for Joe Rogan vibes and that space of the internet. What nothing, We haven't done anything if we saw it. No,
we haven't been anywhere near your Facebook page. For fuck's sake, what you've done? Is anyone else living? For the feud between tech billionaires Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musks so for those who have missed it, last month, they sparked rumors of a cage fight when Musk joked he wanted to settle their beef in the ring, and Zuckerberg responded saying send me location. So Musk has been making jokes on Twitter about the fight, and he shared photos of him
undertaking martial arts training. Did you guys know that Zuckerberg is actually really good at jiuji? So? Apparently was that in the movie about Facebook? Probably? I actually never watched the movie. It wasn't in the movie. They made him come across as a real nerve. Yeah, So apparently he's looking really fit at the moment, and things are set to escalate more this week, with Zuckerberg set to announce a Twitter esque app called Threads, which has been dubbed
the Twitter Killer. So the app is likely to be closely linked to Instagram, with users able to keep their same username and retain their following. So Threads are said to be the place where communities come together to discuss everything from the topics you care about today to what will be trending tomorrow. So essentially it's a copy of Twitter. I feel like they trialed it a bit on Instagram when people could add status updates. I mean the notes, yeah, I mean the notes are more so a way of
helping single people. I suppose slide into dms because you can actually reply to something that they're saying. It is a clever move that you can retain your followers because I know with Twitter they've now canceled everybody's blue ticks that previously had them because they're trying to get everybody to pay for it. So to be able to have an already built audience on Threads is I think that's
very appealing to me. Yeah, and the fact that no one wants to pay to use Twitter, so literally Zuckerberg's like, oh, this is easy picking fruit, Like, I'm just gonna make the same platform that people can use for free. I think a lot of people don't want to start out from zero. Yeah, no one wants to pay to use Twitter. So this is just like an easy venture for Zuckerberg. It's like, literally, here's a copy of Twitter. Just use this if you want it. Yeah, no one wants to start from zero.
Again, there is no such thing as a slut. There is no such thing as a bitch. There is no such thing as someone who's bossy. There's just a boss. Sorry, that was a real soap boss. Why did I say sorry?
Because we're trained to say sorry?
Yeah, we legitimately are. We're like, sorry, was I loud in my own house that I bought with the songs that I wrote about my own life?
I am obsessed with these? Am I the asshole questions? I wrote it? So I've got another one for you, guys. A thirty seven year old woman and asked Redder if she was the asshole for holding a grudge against her sister for a fight over a man years ago. Now let's call this woman Heidi. So ten years ago, Heidi dated this guy for three weeks, and he was apparently a handsome lawyer, and she fell head over heels for him.
One day, they met up and she thought he was going to ask her to be his girlfriend, but instead he told her that they needed to stop seeing each other. So he explained that he was after something casual while she was clearly looking for a husband, And he also didn't live in her hometown and was only there for work and would be returning back to his hometown of New York shortly, so Heidi was left absolutely gutted by this.
Now fast forward a month and her sister, Jessica graduated law school and came home for a few weeks before heading to live in New York, and the pair had never been really close, so Jessica wasn't aware of Heidi's heartbreak. Anyway, it turns out that unknowingly, Jessica began dating the same guy Heidi was heartbroken over, and Heidi overheard a conversation put two and two together, so confronted her sister. Now, Jessica had no idea, and neither did the guy, because
apparently the sisters have very different features. They don't even share the same last name, and they didn't talk about their families. So after learning the connection, Jessica and the guy decided to continue their relationship in New York and became boyfriend and girlfriend now. This resulted in the sisters having a huge argument. Heidi felt as though Jessica had betrayed her and broke sister code by continuing to date this guy, while Jessica thought Heidi should get over it
seeing as they only dated for three weeks. Everyone in the family took Heidi's side, except their mum, who stayed neutral. So ten years on and this feud is still going on and the mom is the only one in the family that talks to Jessica. Wait a sex, So is
the sister still dating the guy or is that finished? Yeah? So, Jessica and the guy are now married and have two kids together with a third on the way, And since learning that Jessica is pregnant with her third and final child, the family want her back in their lives and to connect with her during her last pregnancy, and the family want Heidi to apologize for making a big deal out of nothing, but she has refused. I believe that this family were on Heidi's side. I mean, get over it. Yeah,
you dated this guy for three weeks. His sister's been with him for ten years. You know, it's actually so fat and the sister he'd even fucking know they would. It'd be totally different if you told your sister about this guy that you're madly in love with and things didn't end well and then the sister did the bitch move and when when after this guy she wasn't even aware.
Heidi is saying that her sister Jessica became aware and they weren't even boyfriend and girlfriend at that stage, so she should have just gone like fuck off, god mate. But the guy didn't even know either. See. I feel like there's more to this story. I feel like we're not hearing everything. There must be some like jealousy, Like there's obviously jealousy between the sisters. Has something else that's gone down? I'm assuming that Heidi hasn't moved on, you
know what I mean? Like it's tween ten years, Does Heidi have a new partner. I don't think she has a new partner. I mean also, like it would have been different if Heidi seriously dated guy like they were dating for a few years or so, but they literally dated for three weeks. I've actually heard this a lot, where people end up marrying someone that their siblings have dated. And I just was so weird, Like can you imagine being at family dinner and you're like, I used to
date like my sister's husband. Like how weird? Who My mum was telling us that one of Nana's relatives there were two sisters and one was married, and the one that was married sadly passed away, and then the one that survived ended up remarrying the sister's husband. That's fucking weird. I think that happened a lot like this was a very long remember like what one hundred years ago? I mean on a more recent level, this isn't a sister
but a friend. But I dated this guy who was literally seen to do the rounds of all of the different newsrooms. And I told a new friend I used to date him, actually did dat him for three weeks. She then got with him. See, I think that's a dog move in this respect. If you're aware, well, I think there has to be a discussion. Like if I was the girl in this instance, Sophie that dogged you, I would have been like, oh, Sophie, do you mind if I go out with him, and if you said,
I do mine though, can you? No, you can't. But if she said that's fine, then you've got to move on to play a devil's advocate. Was it really worth it for Jessica to lose the relationship with her sister if she was only in the early stages of this relationship with this guy, it sounds like they weren't even
close to begin with. The whole thing is though she ended up marrying this guy, so whether they were official or not, they obviously had a lot in common, the fact that they're now ten years on, they've got three kid They also both studied law together. How embarrassing would it be to actually apologize? Because if I was Heidi, I probably wouldn't want to see the sister and the new partner because imagine this guy, he's probably like, this
girl's a nut. I literally dated her for three weeks and she's caused his whole ten year family feud over it. How would you guys feel if, like I, if I married someone that you had dated before, Like, would that be a no? No? See, We've had We've had my relative date my boyfriend's relative, and I just think it all gets very messy. Yeah, I think it's an extra awkward element considering that we're identical triplets because these sisters, I mean apparently they don't even look alike, but it
would be awkward. It's like you look the same, so but even that with these sisters, it'd be like, you find my sister attractive and you may or may not have had sex with her and kissed her, Like you know, how did the family get involved? Like I mean, if we told our dad he couldn't give two ships, he'd just be like, oh hear about this. Sounds like this family is very dysfunctional. Well, I think that is all we have time for, thank you. I mean, it's just finishing.
By A. Fredo. This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to Elder's past and present
