Influencers Flee Melbourne Lockdown & Double Dates With Your Ex

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Thank you, Welcome back to Friday's episode of Outspoken. It is so weird because Sophie and I are here together, But Kate, you're on zoom all the way in Corimandel Valley.

You couldn't be bothered to come and join us.

Oh, I mean I could be bothered. But we just thought this might save a little bit of time so I don't have to drive around for like two hours. So so far, so good. I hope it's actually recording properly because I feel like I'm quite comfortable recording this now in my bedroom. Well, let's get straight into the social dilemma. And this one has been inspired by Courtney Kardashian and Scott Disick. So, for those who don't know, Courtney has been dating Blink one two drummer Travis Barker,

That this was a very, very awkward date.

So gossip site des Moir they posted a photo. They didn't actually have a photo of the date, but they posted a tip off that there was this double date, and one person made one hell of a comment. They wrote, it's so odd to me, like, what does the two thousand and one baby have to do with these grown ass people. I know that dinner was awkward as hell.

Would contemplate if you had children with somebody?

I think no, no, But I think the fact that they have children complicates the situation because there are a lot of couples or exes that move on and obviously have to have some sort of good relationship for the children, and so it is nice to see that they are getting along and being able to co parent in this way. Unfortunately, I feel like I'm quite a petty person, and I don't think that I could build myself up enough to go and have dinner with my ex partner's new nineteen

You're with your fiance. Now your fiance X is that.

Yeah, well she hasn't turned up to any of them, So I feel like that's kind of speaks volumes that you know you don't want to be there because she's moved on and got a new partner, but you just I think that's just an awkward thing that no one really wants.

You just want to pretend that person doesn't exist.

It is I mean, this isn't This isn't a first for Courtney and Scott though, because I was watching an old series of The Kardashian that was on nine now and.

Courtney invited was it Sofia Richie on the holiday? Recent X on a holiday?

And it was funny because it was Sofia Richie that was feeling left out, And I can kind of see how you would feel left out if you've got, like, you know, the former couple and their kids. It does act add an extra element with the new partner, so at least they were sort of on even footings at THEATA.

I actually do feel really sorry for the nineteen year old girl in a sense because could you imagine going to this dinner where there's three people who were so much more famous than you, they're older than you, they're probably a bit more sophisticated than you, and you're there awkwardly having to try and think of something to say sorry. Do you actually think Scott Dissicc's sophisticated. Well a bit younger than Courtney Kardashian too. But you know what is

Probably?

Do? You know what though?

I think it depends if you are the winner or the loser out of the relationship, And to me, Scott Distick's kind of the loser. Like it's quite clear that Courtney kind of kicked him out of home, and so I feel like he is on a lower level somewhat. So I feel like if you're the winner in the relationship and you've probably dumped the person, then you probably couldn't give a shit if you're seeing and you know, if you see them at an event where it's more

But that's what's awkward as well, because the new series of the Kardashians is out and Scott very much wants to get back with Courtney. But I would love to hear what everybody else thinks. We're gonna put a thread in our outspoken Facebook community, So tell us, would you go on a double date with your ex dud?

Okay, totally, Okay, I'm sorry. It must be the pressure of entertaining. I think everyone would feel better if.

We had some flying influencers.

Sophie Kasha and Emmy lu McCarthy have been slammed for fleeing Melbourne lockdown. The pair have been labeled tone deaf, entitled and privileged after they escaped to Perth just before Western Australia shut at Sports with Victoria Kate. What is the reasoning behind their departures.

Well, the pair left Melbourne under the guys that they are appearing as guest speakers at a Perth event called Sip and Socials. The event's being held at Perth Luxury Ritz Carlton Hotel on Saturday, Dune the fifth, So the Sip and Socials events actually currently touring Australia and there is an event held in Brisbane and April. So the likes of influencers like Steph Pace, Faith Williams, Kelly Howard and Jessica Wilson all appeared a special guest at this event.

What's really clear here that the organizers are set to make a lot of money for this event. If you're spending two hundred and forty nine dollars on a ticket, you're going to hope that the special guests and influencers are actually there to attend. Yeah, exactly right, And I think this is why there has been a push to

Included in that two hundred and forty nine dollars ticket price are drinks, a food station, grazing tables, business market stalls, and also a one hour live panel Q and A with Sophi, Kasha and Emmy Lou and as of course.

That gooody bag. Yeah, and a bit of COVID maybe beside.

So yeah, so, Sophie, can you tell us about who is organizing this event? Because this person has actually been dragged into the drama. Well, they've actually kind of made themselves the center of this drama.

So the organizer of this event is Emma Williams, who is the founder of socially m so. She describes herself as an entrepreneur and the brains behind three successful six figure businesses. Now I haven't even attended this event, but I'm already feeling a bit sick over the constant mention of these six figure businesses. I kind of feel like it's a bit of a dick measure in competition at the moment over who has the most successful business.

Well, I feel like Sam Mangan's always got a very good approach to these people, and he always says like, well, if these people are so successful, why are they holding like networking events, Like, wouldn't you just be working in your business?

That's right.

I love how it's never like, oh I run a successful five figure business.

It's never alwasn six Well, that's a bit more impressive.

Well. Emma shared on her Instagram story that Sophie and Emmy Lou would not be missing the show despite the lockdown and border closes. So she confirmed that they had undergone COVID nineteen ten, which have come back as negative. So she wrote online, we had to postpone the event in March because of the COVID lockdown, so we acted really quickly this time.

I had this.

Idea for them to jump on a plane the moment we heard anything to do with the COVID situation in Melbourne. So they took me up on the crazy idea and they are here in Perth. They've had negative tests and they are good to go for the next weekend. So there were a lot of questions following this post over whether Sophie and Emmy Lou should actually be in quarantine at the moment. Emma responded to this saying, no, they arrived before the COVID outbreak in Melbourne and have been

Correct Well, the timings are a little bit sketchy, but they are important in determining whether Sophie and emmylu have complied with the government rules. So Victoria's acting Premier May the announcement at seven point thirty on Thursday morning on the twenty seventh of May that the seven days circuit breaker lockdown would be in full effect as of eleven to fifty nine pm that night, so as of recording, sadly, the lockdown has been extended by a further seven days. However,

So based on that.

Post, it's quite confusing as to when Sophie actually arrived in Perth. So while she thanked the event organizer and the hotel for making her last few days easier, she did say she packed at two am, which to me is signals it was the very last minute decision, particularly with socially M saying well hang on as soon as we heard of any COVID lockdowns, we rushed them onto the plane.

So as for Emmy Lou, she claims.

That she didn't share with her followers her travel plans to Perth because she was actually surprising her family members. Now to me, this doesn't really make sense because they were aware of the event coming up, so you know, are they really going to be that surprised that she's suddenly in Perth.

Well, it was obviously part of socially m's crisis management plan to have the pair flown over if there was any mention of COVID, because Sophie does mention that she was spontaneously packing at two am. And it's just odd to me that they mentioned this all over social media because I don't know if they expected the backlash that they have received.

Yeah, well, the thing is, at the end of the day, it does appear like they haven't actually broken any of the government rules because on Friday, the Western Australian Government announced that anyone who arrived from Victoria between Sunday, the sixteenth of May and ten am on Thursday, the twenty seventh needs to present for a COVID nineteen test and within the next forty eight hours remain in self quarantine until they receive a negative result. So it appears that's

Well, they just managed to get in last minute, didn't they. It's almost like a bit of a loophole kind of situation. The organizers would have known because we've seen people locked out of states in the past during these circuit breaker lockdowns. We know that if you travel, you know, right at the last minute, you might be able to make it in without having to do the.

Fourteen day quarantine.

And obviously they haven't done anything wrong legally, but I think people are questioning whether morally it's okay for them to have done that.

Oh yeah, and there are so many people that are really unhappy with Sophie and Emmy loose decision, particularly Victorians, and I don't blame them at all. I would be absolutely furious if I saw these influencers who obviously have a lot of privilege to be able to afford to just jump on this flight. And yes it's paid by the event company. I just feel like it's not a good look to be seen fleeing a lockdown, especially when

Now. As I said, this didn't really sit well with me. And then she went on to actually send out an email to her database during the most recent lockdown, and the email was entitled a gift for you, and the email read because of the news today in Victoria, we've decided to offer free shipping Australia wide until Thursday, the third of June. Please note there may be some delays in shipping during these times. Now, I find it hard to believe that this was sent as a good will gesture.

Don't you think though?

It's a kind of a bad look for the event as well, because while they haven't broken any rules, people are really angry about it. And I think it goes back to people's changing minds about influencers and how we view them since the pandemic. I think people are just getting more and more annoyed at influencers and we're seeing even we're even seeing in Adelaide in terms of all the AFL footballers from Collingwood are allowed into the state.

Yeah, exactly, And I think that's what's pierced a lot of people off. And you know what, like, while they may have done a COVID test, the Melbourne situation is constantly evolving. So many new exposure sites are popping up, and COVID has an incubation period of fourteen days. So what happens if Sophie Kasia and Emmylou do end up getting COVID and they go on to infect four hundred people at this event? I mean that would shut Perth down for months.

Yeah, and what about that? With technology? Could they not have been on Zoom or something. Surely there was some kind of backup plan rather than flying.

All Surely Perth, surely Perth has some influences that actually live there that could be a part of the event. Like the Brisbane event, they were all Brisbane based influences to my knowledge, so surely Perth has some influences that could have stood in. Can I just say I'd be trying to keep a bit of a low profile if it was them, as you said, I wouldn't want to be gallivanting around too much as they've been doing and putting things publicly on Instagram.

But yeah, especially if your Sophiicacia, because she has probably been one of the most controversial influences during this lockdown and COVID period here in Australia. She's constantly slammed. She has been constantly slammed by celeb spelcheck for breaking the rules, So this is one where you think maybe she would have just stayed in place and not had to put

The income and potential income generated from fashion Week sustains us financially for months, just as we were rebuilding financially after the horror that was twenty twenty and spending all this money to get to Sydney.

It's gun rich. It's gut wrenching to be in this position again. There was also another fashion influencer, Christi who and she posted on Instagram story that she was rushing around packing her bags to get to Sydney, and she actually had to delete the story because it was causing so much backlash.

Do you guys feel sorry for these influencers who are missing out on Sydney Fashion Week. I definitely do have some sympathy for them, because at the end of the day, for influencers, it is their career and it is their way that they do make money, particularly for a lot of these fashion influencers who do really take it seriously.

So I do feel sorry for.

Anyone who has had to endure the lockdowns that have been going on in Victoria this year and last year, because it would just be absolutely awful. I do feel sorry for them if it is affecting their livelihood. Then again, there are so many other people who are being affected in far worse circumstances. There are people who are missing out on attending loved ones funerals, there are people missing out on visiting sick relatives. So there are lots of other cases where people are far worse off.

Yeah, I mean it's horrible, as you said, that they are losing their income, and for me, that's actually a very serious thing because you know, you guys work in pr You've experienced having jobs canceled, so that no one thinks that's great. I think the issue for me here is fact that they that these influencers are trying to quickly flee Melbourne, And to me that is kind of

And travel like, it's sort of not the best thing to do, exactly. It's like travel in general. It's like, should we really be traveling around during a pandemic? Well, talking about travel, did you guys see influencer Taylor Winterstein and her husband whose former NRL Frankie Winterstein. They have caused huge outrage because they were publicly.

Defying wearing masks on their flight back from Melbourne to Sydney.

To be honest, I have never heard of either of them, but then again I'm not a huge NRL fan. Well.

Taylor is well known for her anti vax stance and she has run a wellness program called taz Way since twenty fourteen. She has been heavily criticized in several South Pacific and Australasian countries for her anti vaccination rhetoric, and she's held seminars that have been called irresponsible by the Australian Medical Association. And she's even been called a public health threat. Now, Taylor continues to claim that she does not encourage non vaccination, but rather informed consent and.

Freedom of choice.

So on Monday, the twenty fourth of May, just before Melbourne went into lockdown, Taylor shared a photo of her and her husband not wearing a mask on the plane. She captured the post peacefully flying to Melbourne and back mask free because we have a medical exemption and it's called we are allergic to bullshit. We were the ones. We were the only ones on the plane breathing unrestricted, So much easier advocating for your rights when flying in

Oh my, this is the thing.

It takes one fuck quit to ruin it for everyone else.

I just think this is the.

Most selfish thing you could do. I mean, I'm sorry, how difficult is it to just whack a mask on? So? Can I ask? Were they unaware? So they were traveling before all of the lockdown was mentioned.

Yeah, So they were traveling on the Monday, and the state went into lockdown at twelve eleven fifty nine on Thursday, so there was definitely signs that there were COVID cases happening. And of course, you know, people have to try when they're traveling on a plane, you have to wear a mask. So they have actually believe said that they haven't they needed a medical exemption when they don't. And they went on to say that that medical medical exemption was that they don't believe in bullshit?

Don't I show you how important it is to wear a mask on a plane though, the fact that they were at these two exposure sites and they're all calling it bullshit on their insta stories. Well, it's just shut down Melbourne, so it's clearly not bullshit.

We'll just wrap things up.

I am so interested to see how the event with Sophie, Keasia and Emilu is going to unfold. On Saturday night, they are having a Q and A, so I do wonder whether they are going to have questions about COVID. Well that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so much for listening. If you did enjoy the podcast, we'd love if you could go and leave us a five star review, and don't forget to give us a