Influencers Abroad, BIP Drama & The Overheard Conversation

changing our days around. Yeah, so we've decided to bring some joy on hump Day on a Wednesday, and that's when we're going to be doing our normal show, and then we'll also do our second show on Friday, so we're spicing it up a little bit. Yeah, we're changing things around just because it works so much better for

our schedule and talking schedules. I know we've all had a really busy week, but officially, just so everyone knows how has everyone's weeks been, I thought I provide a bit of an update for those in our Facebook community about how my rent is going. So we are officially eleven days in for those taking vets at home, but we have had some good news. There have been three people who had private inspections and one fussy lady has apparently asked for an application for so watch this space.

I'm trying to remember how many days I Reckonize said two weeks, so we've said like sick Kate said six and we did not say two weeks. You said four weeks or something. But anyway, I mean, there's no signature on the dotted line yet, so we never know. We'll find out next week how that's progressed. I had quite

a stressful week as a dog mum. I had to take Shadow into the vet, the emergency vet, which I have now decided that I think I would like to be a VET in my next life because fortunately Shadow had about of gastro, but we needed to keep him in overnight to run blood tests and have X rays and that whole process costs nearly two thousand dollars. Crazy. It's been such a bad week for pets at the moment because my boyfriend's sister, her poor dog got hit by a car. Well, it actually herded a car, so

it's front leg attached attack to the truck. Likely the dog came off better, but it actually cost better than the car. Well, not better than the car, but it's still alive. It's a border Collie. For those why it would be hurting cars, But it was less to treat this border collie where they had stitches and everything, than to treat a dog for gastro which I couldn't believe. Yeah, we weren't. Thank Goodness for pet insurance. Well, my week has been another healthy week. I must say I'm not

trying to brag here. I had a snapchat from you eating Curly Wells. I feel like you think that that's okay every day. Well Curly Well, I just I know exactly what sugar I'm I'm allowed to have and that, as I've mentioned on the show, they only have twelve grams of sugar, so I've been sticking to that I need to treat. Can we reiterate the reason that you're being so over the top with sugar and carbs is because we all have naturally high cholesterol. So you're not

some sort of like hippie type person. Yeah, isn't that the term? I don't think it's w W Well. I mentioned in our podcast community that I was thinking of going off the pill after we had our Nature Path Maria Harpers on the show, and it was a really good discussion in the group. So I have decided to go off it, and so I've been trying to clean my diet up just so my skin doesn't go foul

after getting off. And I'm officially offered as well. And I think that that was quite evident yesterday when I just burst into tears for no reason and got really upset, I was like, yeah, it must be leaving my system or something. See I had a cry yesterday too, But I'm still on the pill, so I don't know what's going on here Aviy and Sophia my guinea pigs, because I'm still on it, so I'll see how their skin

turns out. I've got to say I've been feeling amazing because I've been taking powdered magnesium supplement and also zinc drops because apparently when you take the pill, magnesium and zinc is lowered in your body so you don't get enough of it. And oh my goodness, I've been having the best sleeps. I've been feeling amazing. So I'd highly recommend obviously check with your doctor or your nature paths.

But yeah, that's what I was going to say, it's obviously important to run these things through a doctor and do your research, because not everything works for the one person. But ye yeah, Well, one other great thing that's happening at the end of this week is Christmas in July. Well, I'm just pumped for Christmas later in the year, but

Christmas in July. It's a good excuse to get all your Christmas jumpers out because I'm a big fan of Christmas jumpers and I'll have to share a photo on our Insta story of how many I've got, and I will wear them during forty degree heat just because I get so much joy out of it. Our OD listeners will know that every year we have at Christmas a white party where we do really extravagant dessert, so I'm kind of expecting the same sort of treatment for this weekend.

Maybe we should do a different color mix it up. I reckon the jumpers, Ye win to Wonderland. Yeah that's good. I think you've got to be good and a fire with marshmallows that you roast and you can actually have hot chocolate. If anyone else is celebrating Christmas in July, please tag us in any Instagram stories that go out because we would love to see them. And let's get a thread going in the Facebook community because I'd love to hear what other people's ideas are. Let's get into

the first topic. According to Instagram, the summer of twenty twenty is back glamorous. Snaps of British influencers holidaying in Ibetha are feeling our feed thanks to the U government relaxing its quarantine travel rules. It's all rather confusing though, with the fight against COVID far but over so, so can you tell us what is actually going on with

the UK's travel rules at the moment. Well, on July ten, the UK government eased its quarantine rules, allowing travel to fifty eight selected countries, including France, Italy, Belgium, Germany and Spain. Well that's pretty amazing considering some of those countries have had such high cases of coronavirus. Which countries aren't they allowed to travel to? So some of the countries they're currently not allowed to travel to are the US, China

and Portugal. And it's really interesting because travelers leaving and arriving in the UK will not be required to self isolate for fourteen days. That is actually so ridiculous because I found out with a bit of research that that two week quarantine rule was only put into effect on June eighth, so only about a month ago. So now they're just completely throwing that out the window. Is this

just because they want to start tourism up again? Well, the UK Secretary of State for Transport said, whether you're a holiday maker ready to travel abroad or a business eager to open your doors again, this is good news for British people and great news for British business. So it seems to be very heavily driven by the economy at the moment and not so much for the health of the people over there. I can see the positives there for the economy, but what's going to happen is

it's not going to stop coronavirus. It's just going to continue the spread and it's going to get worse and worse before there's a vaccine. Well, I mean, you have to just take a look at everyone in Melbourne at the moment, and my heart goes out to everyone who is currently in lockdown because it just seems like such

a dire situation over there. Yeah, and it can change so rapidly, which I suppose is scary for what's going on in the UK at the moment, because while travelers don't have to isolate, they have been told that they need to provide the address of where they'll be staying for the duration of their trip, because it really helps every time I've traveled overseas, that's a part of the immigration process. I suppose it is a little bit different because when I was traveling in Europe, you don't have

to show your passports going into certain countries. So for example, when I went from Amsterdam to Berlin on the train,

didn't have to show any passports or anything. So it's kind of like state to state travel in Australia basically, or we should probably move into what the current lockdown situation is in the UK, so as we're currently recording this, the UK's official COVID nineteen death toll currently stands at forty five thousand, three hundred and there have been two hundred and ninety four thousand, seven hundred and ninety two cases, which is one of the highest records in the world.

That is just so interesting to put into perspective in comparison to what's going on in Australia. Obviously we've been seeing a high number of cases in Victoria, but pretty much across the rest of the country our cases have been low, and I would be so shocked if we were thinking of allowing our citizens to travel. Well. All this travel has also coincided with the fact that Jim's swimming pools, leisure centers, beauty salons and outdoor arts venues

at England are all reopened as well. Yeah, and what I found interesting is they're also going to be making mass mandatory of July twenty three. So similar to in Victoria, if you're going out to the shops or supermarkets or on public transport, you're going to have to be wearing a mask. Well, so how does that work when you're away? I mean it's particularly difficult for them because summertime at the moment, and wearing these masks could be really restrictive.

Can you imagine everyone getting around in them in summer. Yeah, Well, they have similar laws in Spain, which will be going into a little bit later. But I found it quite interesting because I was wondering, Okay, so if you can travel, then how many people are you actually allowed to hang out with? Is are things relatively back to normal in the UK, but it seems to be that they're still

sticking with these household rules. So they've explained it as anyone in your support bubble is included as your household. So at the moment, if you are socializing indoors, you're only allowed to have two households together. But if you are wanting to socialize with people outside of your household, you can only be together with up to six people. Do you have to list these people? Because how did the police know? How are they policing this that you're

just with your designated people. I feel like there'd be a lot of trust there. What I found really interesting is I follow a lot of UK YouTubers and one of them had a video where she was finally visiting her friends, but in the video she had to be I think it was one point five meters away from her friends all time during the video. And isn't that normal social distancing rules here? It is? It just seemed bizarre how they was, how the placement was in the video.

You could tell that they'd just done it so there'd be no troll comments because as soon as that video is over, I'm guessing they were probably a lot closer to the one point, it just looked very unnatural. What I found particularly funny when looking into the UK's social distancing rules is the fact that if you're out with your two households, so that's okay if you're all together. So say, Aimy, your household and my household went out together.

But if I was then to see Sophie a different household, we would not be able to speak to her. We'd have to ignore her. Is it feasible to believe that this is actually people are actually sticking to these guidelines if it's so difficult to police. I think it's bullshit though, because people are allowed to travel, yet there's still really strict rules around funerals and weddings, so only thirty people

can go to a funeral and a wedding. Yet you can jet off to Ibtha and then just come straight back. It seems a bit ludicrous to me. Shall we take a look at which influencers are currently in Ibtha at

the moment? Yeah? So I noticed that this was popping up all in my news feed last week, and this of course coincided with the easing of the rules, and also a new travel company called Tui Flights carrying over five hundred British holidaymakers across to Abitha from Manchester in London, and then that was also followed by a flight from Ryan Air. So a month classy who's getting on Ryan Air at the moment that's not going to be pretty

desperate to go on a holiday through Ryan Air. Well that's what I found funny because when I was watching YouTube couple Ellie Darby and Connor Swift's vlog in Ibitha, they were traveling Ryan Air and I was like, wow, that must have been really slim pickings. So that pair are there alongside UK Love Island stars Molly May and Tommy Fury, as well as some lesser known UK Love

Island stars who are Elma and Francesca. Funnily enough, Jordie Shaw stars Charlotte Crosby and Holly Hagen are also there, along with I'm a Celeb Winner Jacqueline Joseph and Towy's Billy. So the three of them are actually shooting an inn style campaign and I think Holly's just sun baking in the meantime. Well, I've also heard people like Saffra Barker talking about how she's set to plan a holiday there

or either in the Middle East. So it is interesting to hear that there's a lot of travel being discussed on YouTube at the moment, and I suppose travel vlogs are a lot of these people's bread and butter, so it does make sense that they're suddenly traveling again. Do you reckon that these companies are paying for them to go over there, because, as you say, it's just popping up all the time in Instagram, and I'm assuming it is influencing other people in the UK to go. Oh okay,

if they're there, it must be safe to go to Abetha. Yeah, it's interesting you say that because I noticed that Molly and Tommy mentioned that they only had decided the night before to go, and it was similar with Ellie, so she surprised her boyfriend Connor with a trip for their anniversary and all seemed very last minute. But do you notice as well the demographic that are going. It's all young people who, which statistics show, aren't necessarily going to

be greatly affected if they do pick up coronavirus. I mean, come on, so with influences, they could have fourteen days quarantine easy. It's the people that are in specific jobs like, if you're working is a nurse, probably not a good idea to go away for a trip to Ibetha. Well. I think the scary thing is that the COVID situation in Spain hasn't been good at all. There has been over twenty eight thousand deaths and two hundred and sixty

five thousand cases. That's really interesting because for Spain they wouldn't want people from the UK coming over because while Spain has had quite a large number of deaths, the UK that's nearly they've nearly had double the amount of deaths. Well, it's funny you say that because you'd think so, but the Spanish government actually makes so much money off tourism, and the changes to the UK travel rules are actually considered a huge lifeline for Ibetha and other islands because

the tourists that flock there are usually from the UK. Yeah, but are they going to be flocking there for long if there's a huge spike in coronavirus cases? I mean, I can understand it's obviously for the people's livelihoods, and it's actually so sad because it shows you how desperate the Spanish government are to spike their economy back up because tourism would be such a huge part, especially in Ibetha. Yeah, we're having a look at Ibetha and the Baliriac Islands,

which Abetha as a part of. So data suggests that there are one hundred and twenty nine active cases of coronavirus in the island, with twelve more on Friday. That's pretty crazy because I mean you look at South Australia. At the moment, we have zero cases and the way that our government is acting is in a very controlled, very cautious way. If we had one hundred and ninety one cases, there's no way we'd be letting anyone in. Well.

I think it's actually showing a change in mindset because in Australia everyone's sort of going, oh, we need to shut down everything, But in these European countries where tourism is so big, they're saying, well, we've got to reopen, we've got to get back to normal, We've got to be able to live with this virus. This virus is going to be around for a long time because there is no vaccine on the horizon. I think it's a

pretty reckless way to live though. I mean, with the amount of people who are working on finding a vaccine At the moment, you know, we're all predicting that hopefully it might be something that takes another year or six months. Can we just not stop traveling for that long to contain it. I mean, people are dying, but there are people that are dying who they can't support their family, who are committing suicide because they can't live life like

set And I understand that. But that's where the government needs to step in and do take a look at Australia's job keeper situation and perhaps produce something like that, But not all countries can afford to do that. Well. The Spanish government did announce last week a four point two billion dollar euro aid package for its tourism industry,

so that's a positive sign in the right direction. But it is really sad for people living in Spain and having to work in those tourism industry because one hotel worker was interviewed in an article talking about the influx of visitors to Ibitha and he said he was worried but really had no choice. He said, tourism is the only business here and if we don't work, we starve. So I think that really puts it into perspective. Do you guys think it's irresponsible of the influencers to go

and promote overseas travel if they have been paid. I think the thing that is difficult is that if it's allowed by the UK government, then I don't really feel it's irresponsible of them because they are sticking to the guidelines that are allowed. At the same ammorizing. Yeah, at the same time, I think even even not for the health side of things, but even for people's mental health, particularly look at those poor people in Melbourne at the moment.

If I was stuck in lockdown, a very severe lockdown, and face my Instagram feed was being flooded with people on these luxurious holidays, it'd be quite detrimental for me. It seemed very tone deaf to be bragging about this holiday and kind of acting like everything is back to normal, because it's not back to normal. Unfortunately, there are still people out of work, people that are in lockdown, and just seeing these sort of rich influences, it seemed very elitist.

They're so lucky to be in a position where they can afford to just book a holiday. The next day when they're sitting on the couch watching a movie. A lot of people are struggling paycheck to paychecked or not even getting paid and having to live off government benefits. So it did really annoy me. But there is also the other side where well, it's helping people in Spain

live as well. It's a really tough one. I think the other thing it does do though, is it helps people escape from perhaps the mundaneness that they're currently living in. I mean, I have to say I did enjoy watching a few of their youtubes because it was exciting to see people traveling again. But yeah, and so in two

minds about it. It was interesting to see all the different protocol because I was watching l Darby's travel vlog to Ibetha and she was saying that they just had to have lots of temperature checks along the way, and they also had to sign documentations saying that they didn't have coronavirus, which I felt was odd because unless you've had a coronavirus test, how can you actually legally claim

that you don't have it. And the thing that I find interesting though is the fact that everyone is traveling to Abetha, which is clearly known as a holiday island and one where there's a lot of a party island where there's lots of music festivals and that sort of thing. And kay, can you talk us through what the rules are in regards to drinking and dancing because at the moment in South Australia there's no dancing at nightclubs at the moment. Yes, right, we could go out because it's

a good excuse, Sorry I can't. Yeah. Well, the thing is a lot of people are thinking, oh, well we can travel to Abitha, so it must be up and running. But the sad reality is a lot of the clubs are actually close, so it's a lot of day clubs that are open, and there are a lot of health and safety measures being put in play, so they're trying to implement mists like sanitary mist that you walk through

when you enter the club. That just made me laugh because it reminds me of back in the day when you go to a night club and there'd be someone on the dance floor would do like a dance floor fart. Yeah, and just that horrible beers smell. I don't know that stench. They kind of needed a bit of that. But just imagine your hair, like imagine having done your hair to go out and then this detergent mist is spreading to it. Yeah. Well, in addition to the mist, wearing a mask is also mandatory.

So if you're out and about, you're going to be having to wear a mask. You can take it off if you're swimming or sitting around the pool or playing sport. However, if you're in a restaurant, you're going to have to be wearing a mask. And if you're at a bar and you can't actually stand one point five meters away, you have to wear the mask, but you can pull it down and to have a drink. Can I just say some influencers have been absolutely rocking their masks so

the point where I'm like, they actually look cool. Because we had a discussion about Kira Maguire in our Facebook group because she posted an instagram of her I think it was some sort of average just promoting some colds product into a little impromptued photo shoot. Jeez, she was rocking that mask. I'm in two minds about this whole mask thing though. While I think it's great that they're influencing other people to do the right thing and wear a mask, I don't want masks to suddenly turn into

something where people feel. I mean, it's so difficult to get your hands in any of these masks, and there's going to be pressure that, oh, my mask isn't cool. But at the end of the day, that's always going to happen. And I think if influencers can actually start using their power for good and people want to get a mask, and I don't think there's much danger, and I think it's positive. I've had a personally a bit of ick factor over some of the posts with the mask.

I think it's positive. I mean, I saw Brook Hogan post a tutorial on how to make a mask out of a sock, and I have seen this floating around with other people and I just think, well, that's really great because it's now mandatory in Victoria to wear them, and I think other states should be adopting it and be more cautious when they're going out, do you know what.

I just keep thinking. I keep thinking if it was this time last year, and if you could take a look into the future, you would just be like, what the hell is going on? I think it's quite interesting though, because I think I think there are some really good things being implemented. For example, in IBETHA they're getting rid of all the paper menus and instead they're putting QR codes on the table, so you just scan it with your phone and the menu pops up. I mean that's

pretty cool. I is making me just want to go on holiday. That's the worst thing. I just want to go to Penang, which is where we go on our family holidays. But that's the thing, that's why it's such a tease, Like it's such a teas being able to see these other people and as Kate touched them before, it does just feel like this elitist thing. At least it's something nice to hate, folly, other than influencers doing up their cupboards. Love that you want something to hate follow,

Oh we're human, come on, everyone does. Let's get into our pit and peak of the social media week, and Kate, let's start with a pit because you chose this one and so and I thought it was a bit odd, but we'll let you explain. Soph you sent me this. I sent it to you, but I thought it should be a peak, not a pit. Okay, well I'll have to explain. So Sophie sent me a Instagram photo of

Jessica Simpson, who turned forty this week. This blew my mind because I don't know if we're showing our age here, but growing up, I remember in year eight, Nearly Weeds was on, and that was, of course the reality show that followed Jessica Simpson and Nicolchet's first couple of years of marriage, and oh my god, it was the best show. And she was only twenty three in this at the time, and I remember just being obsessed with her and just thinking how gorgeous she was, how much I wished I

looked like her. So it blew my mind to see that she had turned forty. Yeah, and there's that famous episode where it is her birthday and she's like, oh my god, I'm nearly twenty five, which nearly means I'm thirty. And it's like, now she actually is forty. It's quite weird to look back on. She looks incredible. Yeah, she does not look forward and nice to say, forty isn't even old now. I used to think back in the day, forty used to seem so old, but it's so young still.

Just to clarify, it was the pit because it made me feel old. Okay, that's fair enough. So just moving on to the peak that had to be a video that Laura and Britt from the podcast Life Uncut released, and it was a video celebrating the fact they've now had two million downloads on their podcast. It was bloody hello.

I just love how into it they get. So Laura and Maddie Jay often do quite quirky videos like this, and obviously they got Britt involved, and bloody hell, they were strutting around Bonday Beach and glittery jackets and acting like divas with puppies and god, they really took the piss out of themselves. It's the least exciting to look at. Please give a thumbs up, give it a life because

it really supports my channel. You're insignificant. Asscare now into the reality rap and there is finally something to talk about because Bachelor and Paradise is finally here. Now. I think we are all in mourning one for the fact that Abby Chatfield was kicked off. I mean, what the hell was that about. She was the best thing on that show. I mean, it really was the Abby show on episode one and two. I'm assuming because she then got kicked off, couldn't they bloody force Jamie to give

her a rose? Yeah? She mightn't have accepted it. I suppose it does show you, though, that the producers probably don't have a huge day, because you would assume that they would want Abby Chatfield to be there because she is a ratings winner. I mean, we've just got basically, oh not all duds, like we've got some still some good storylines. But then again, they're putting new characters in each week, so I mean, I suppose perhaps it's making room for some of the other characters like Kira Maguire

to come in contestines. Well, I'm calling them characters because that's really what they are. All the other contestant they've got a lot of the spotlight was Kieran What did everyone make of the way he's been portrayed currently? If I was him, I wouldn't have gone on Bachelor in Paradise if I was going to behave like this, because he was so well loved after Angie's series, and he's

just come across as a complete dickhead. Now I didn't actually watch Angie series as the Bachelor, so this is the first time I've met him on the show, I suppose, and I just couldn't believe that everyone was going nuts over him. He literally looks like Draco Malfoy's father. Like when he came in with that blonde hair down, I was like, is this who? We're all going nuts? So if look, I watched Angie Kent series and I still don't get it. I don't get why everyone loved him.

I mean, I do like the accent. Maybe it's the accent. It's appealing to everyone. I get why people liked him on Angie series. I mean, I personally am not a fan of that many tattoos, but I think I think that a lot of girls do really like the way he does look. He's a particular style, but he's not my cup of tea. That's what I mean. He's a

particular style. So it seems odd that a lot of people are going on about him, which was really perfectly summarized in a meme I saw, and it said, no one was interested in American Alex, who is conventionally extremely hot in the previous in the previous series of Bachelor in Paradise, But everyone's going nuts about Kuran, who is not what you would conventionally think was attractive. Is it because he's the bad boy? Look? No? In Angie's series, It wasn't because he was the bad boy. It was

because he was actually really funny and really nice. He was kind of that quirky person that had a really cheeky personality, and he'd always wear different colored suits, and he actually seemed to be looking out for Angie. But what seems to have ruined things for him is the fact that there's more than one woman. Well, from what I've heard and am led to believe, he was not

looking after Angie at all. So apparently he was dating Renee, who was on Matt series of The Bachelor the whole time he was an Angie series, and that's why he left the series. But he claimed he left because I think it was his grandmother that dies. Well, that's a very good excuse, isn't it. Well, Renee is going to be appearing tonight on the show, isn't she? That should be explosive. I find funniest about this is no one even knows who Renee is because she was an intruder

on Matt series who literally lasted like one night. Yeah, because we were first introduced to her when Cass who's on Bachelor in Paradise. They had it basically a dinner party and they could put in anonymous questions. It was actually called the Buller Banquet, and I loved because it was very similar to Married at First Sight, where they would ask awkward questions yeah, and they were all anonymous questions.

So Cass, she's interested in Kieran, and she put in a question saying, what's the go basically with him and Renee and what happened in their relationship. So he had to reveal at this dinner party that he had actually cheated on Renee at a wedding. And it was hilarious because Cas was like, Oh, yeah, I'm just you know, into girl code and I'm really looking out for Renee and I'm I'm not going to go there if his

answer doesn't align with her vels. Yeah, and he literally says he cheats on her, and then next minute she's trying to hook up with him under a palm tree. Do you think it's the competition side of things, because it seems like, well, what the producers want us to think is that Cass is so keen to beat Abby and win Kieran that they don't even care about Kieran.

It's all about winning. I think it's also a lot to do with the amount of alcohol they're being supplied, but she was slurring her words the whole time that night, and yeah, I think that the alcohol is definitely an element as well as the competition. Well for Cass, she really hasn't come out of this looking very good, because not only was she quite rude to Abbi Chatfield, she also was rude to Jess, who came in I think

towards the end of the second episode. And of course Jess, she is a tattooed, gorgeous girl, and she caught the eye of Kieran and it's quite obvious looking at them that they look like a very good match on paper. Well they do. When she came in, I was like, oh, yeah, he's gonna hook us. She blatantly slut shamed her behind her back. As soon as she entered. She told everyone

that she used to work as a stripper. And what I found so sad slutshaming though it's I think it was more the way she said it was she's connotation, but also she didn't even give Jess the opportunity to tell everyone. And what I thought was so hypocritical was that Cass turned her nose up at Jess for previously being a stripper, but then she's quite happy to actively seek out a relationship with Kieran, who is a stripper.

So Kieren previously was a stripper, And I suppose it is interesting to look at the way male strippers and female strippers are portrayed, and I suppose just males and females generally on the show, because Kieran's seen as a right laugh that the fact he was a stripper. It's sort of funny, but then Jess is degraded about, oh, she's just a stripper. But it's kind of like on The Bachelorette when they were all painting Kieran in the nude,

and that was really funny. But if it was say Abby Chatfield the season before being painted in the nude, that would be slutty. Yeah, it was quite funny also looking at who the show picks as the bachelor, because there have been quite a few contestants like Tim Robards that have been strippers before. But the Dirty Street PI

what's his name, Blake, Blake Garvey. Yeah, no, it's been like it's mentioned in news articles, but it's kind of like, oh, that was the side thing they were doing, and now they're really successful, which is the same for the women, but it's seen as some dirty thing. And I suppose this hypocrisy was also extremely obvious the way Abby Chatfield was treated. Again. Yeah, so Abby was shown canoodling in bed with Kieran and it was almost implied that something

happened the way it was edited. And she's come out on the Kyle and Jackie Oh Show and said, guys, nothing happened. She said to Kyle, Kyle, I would tell you, and she would she would have said something because she is so open about all of that kind of stuff. She said that they just literally lay in bed together. The thing I found so disgusting was the way Mary was talking about Abby, basically saying, oh, she's just going to get it tits out again and she's going to,

you know, get what she wants. She always gets what she wants. And as you were saying, Amy, she was putting blame on Abby as opposed to Kieran in that situation. I mean, the whole time Abby was only interested in one guy. But I don't I don't think blame should have been placed on anybody. It's a show about getting to know each other, and I suppose in some sense hooking up and seeing if you work as a couple. She has actually come out and apologize for her comments,

so she should have. Yeah, Mary should have apologized. She was pretty disgusting with her commentary, and it's good that she did. I mean, you don't know how you're coming across and what they're going to choose that you say, but she did say those things. Now, on the topic of Bachelor and Paradise and with the Bachelorette impending, we are going to be starting a petition or a campaign to get Abby Chatfield as the bachelorette. I think we

need it. She has announced that she is by so can you imagine that having men and women competing for a rose that would be so interesting. Plus, she's overtly sexual. She is in touch with her sexuality, another great thing that we want to watch. I think the series of the Bachelor and Bachelorette is very old school, like they don't even have the fantasy suites like they do in America. And from what I've seen on her instance story, it's pretty obvious still single, because she put up a photo

saying she's basically been banned from Tinder. And also I think it was hinge because people keep reporting her account as being faked, but it's actually her. I saw Tinder got onto that though, and messaged her and said that her account's back up and going well. She also did a Q and A with her friend and they were both saying that they've already come up with date ideas if she is picked for the Bachelorette, and included eating

a whole lot of food, which I love. So let's move on to some reality shows that are sadly wrapping up, and one that I have loved has been Master Chef, and I feel like it's been going for about two years because it started in the midst of all the lockdown that was going on, and I know for me and a lot of people, it's been a real crutch and a little excitement, some family friendly fun at the end of the day. I feel like it's really inspired you to cook again, Kate, because you have been whipping

up desserts left, right and center. So I hope that continues after Master Chef's finished. Well, it's funny because Resent and I were talking about it and we feel like the previous series of Master Chef you used to actually try and cook the things that the Condestines cooked, but because it's the best of series, it's been really hard to replicate anything they've cooked because it's all so complex. Okay, were you happy with the winner? No? I wasn't. It

was very anticlimactic. As we spoke about a couple of weeks ago. The winner was Amelia and she was tipped by the betting companies to be the winner. So it seems that there was a leak ages ago that knew that she won. Oh. Look, anytime those shows are pre recorded, the crew know who have won. They're going to tell the betting people. I said to you last week, I was like, so should I put a whole lot of

money on her? And You're like, no, you never know. Well, it was really sad because Laura was going really well and then she burnt her hand so badly, So from there it was kind of obvious what was gonna happen. I personally want a Callum hand to win. I think he is so sweet. He came forth and when he got kicked off, literally I could have cried. It was so sad. Okay, are you a bit jealous? Because tomorrow, as part of Hula Media, Amy and I are going

to be filming something special with Callum. I'm very jealous. I asked if I could come a little eman. Well, I've actually got something on. You can rehold the Lights or something. Well. Another series of mine that you guys have refused to watch is Big Brother and that is ending to nights, and I would really like to see Dan win. It's kind of been anti climactic. All the good people kind of got kicked off and it's now just the two groups. Now, how are they actually deciding

the winner? Cap I still don't know. It's meant to be voted by the public, but they will not actually tell us what's happening. You only know that they do the sort of competitions and games until they get that final three and then apparently it's voted on. But I'm really interested because not once have we been asked to vote for who we want to win. Well. The thing that blew my mind this week though, was hearing that

Kieran from Big Brother is now selling his own merchandise. Yeah, this was really strange to me because Kieran is one of those people that, yes, I enjoyed watching him on the show because he was such a buffoon. It's not that I like him, nor would want to emulate anything he's wearing, and that sounds really cruel. But that's and I just found it was really quite interesting because I had a look and he's got a YouTube channel and obviously pushing his own merch, so it seems he's dead

set interested in becoming famous. Now I believe, I believe his merch had some of his catch phrases on there. What were the couch phrases? Catchphrases that I didn't even know were a thing? Like they start I noticed they started calling him thick boy, which I thought, well, that's a bit rude. Yeah, that's what he's got on the T shirts. And who would want to wear that shirt? It's like, who was his target demographic? Cook? I laughed, because it almost sounds a bit rude. Yeah, it seems

a bit of a play on words, doesn't it. Well, even the word thick implies dumb as well, so oh yeah, actually I must be thick. I didn't think of that. But what I found interesting is his dad is actually a drama teacher, so I was wondering if he was putting on an act and everything he was doing in the house was a bit fake because he was so infuriating, like he would sit on the couch and be like

mom like and just be mumbling to himself. I just feel like the Big Brother producers clearly tried to keep him there because he should have been out night one. Oh yes, it's pretty obvious they tried to keep Angela and Kieran there. Do you reckon? That's what he spent his fifteen grand on just putting out this merch. Oh that's a good idea. I don't know. Well, he's a videographer,

isn't he. The thing that I fervently The thing that I foundly interesting though, was I had a look at Angela if she popped up because I follow sheic and it popped up that she was wearing one of their tops, and I was like, oh, I want to see how many followers she has. She only had twenty two thousand, which surprised me because she seemed like one of the most popular on there. Well, it shows it shows that Big Brother hasn't been too popular, because even with Kieran,

he's around the twenty thousand mark. But if you look at people who are on the Bachelor, they've all got over one hundred thousand, maybe it's the demographic who's watching the show, a lot of older people that wouldn't follow them talking about a Big Brother, and people with large followings. It was quite funny. I'm obsessed with nadi A Bartel's brand, despite not actually buying any of her jumpers because they sold out and were too expensive anyway and made from

very poor pularity material. Yeah, apparently they're made from four quality materials. Someone told us in our community, but you love the look of this, but I love it. Yeah. And anyway, one of the people on the Instagram story that was wearing one of the jumpers was Crystal, and I thought she looked familiar. I clicked on her page and she looks kind of like one of those Byron Bay moms with you know, beautiful. Yeah, it's Crystal from a Big Brother, the one that went in with her

mum and they both had boob jobs. She has completely rebranded herself. It was quite hilarious. She's one of those holistic mums that's all about the Byron Bay life and the white linen. And I was like, wow, this is completely different to what you're portrayed like on Big Brother, which was obviously a long time ago. And she's got hundreds of thousands of followers. I surprise because Instagram wasn't around when she was on Big Brother. Obviously her new lifestyle.

Maybe she's some sort of mummy blogger now, yes, she was. Anyway, blast from the past. It's time for awkward turtle now. Amy and Sophie have been keeping this one a secret from me so they can get my real reaction to it. Okay, so I'm interested to know what actually happened. Well, one lunchtime, Sophie and I decided, Okay, it's beautiful weather, let's go for a walk from her new house. So we walked

towards beach. Anyway, there was this beautiful secluded part of this walkway through to the beach, and there was only one man in front of us. So we were just walking along chatting. And this is the day that Sophie had found out that her boyfriend had to have a coronavirus test just because he had a sore throat. There was it was literally no other reason throat. It wasn't it just a tickle? Because the Beechton is very, very good with those things, so he will get things checked

out even when something's not wrong. To be fair with the job that Brandon does. They're very cautious and they've been urging anyone who has any signs, even a tickle in their throat to get tested. So that's why he got tested. So anyway, we're walking along and just chatting and all of a sudden, Sophie brings up Brandon's test and she was so mind you, this man's walking probably one point five meters ahead of us. Yeah, so he gets his results back for the coronavirus test tomorrow. She

was so loud. I was like, Sophieg, man's probably gonna be panicked, thinking we're talking something. And he did fall into the age category who are at So he's walking ahead of us and then all of a sudden he sort of like stands to the site and lets us walk past him, and he starts walking back. It was so embarrassing. Well, I can confirm that he does not have coronavirus. As soon as we got back from the walk, actually he found out that he was negative for it.

Well there's no shot there because there's currently zero cases in South Australia, thank goodness. And as we close, we just want to say we are really thinking of everyone in Melbourne. I know a large percentage of our listener base is from Victoria, so I hope you guys are doing okay. We really feel for you. We do want to say we feel lucky to be able to be going about pretty normally, so we are thinking of you and hopefully this podcast brightens your day a little bit

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