Chloe Szep's Confusing Life Announcement

having this very wholesome Easter morning with her kids. They were in their pj's, they were eating chocolate for breakfast, and he was nowhere to be seen. Yeah. Well, it turns out he was in Melbourne, like we thought, celebrating with his family. So he shared a photo dump with the caption All of this social activity is exhausting. What

a millennial play on words there. I actually thought he might be having a dig at our podcast because he posted his Easter snaps the day after we released our episode. Is this play about us? I mean, I don't necessarily think that that was a dig at us. Eating a bit maybe I'm a bit sensitive one of Matt's relatives did add a rather wholesome comment, saying, such a wonderful

celebration with beautiful friends Easter was special. I wonder if it's difficult for Tammy to join the family celebrations in Melbourne because she does have joint custody of her youngest daughter Posey with Matt Paul. Do you think that's what's the issue. Yeah, it's a hard one because at the same time, Matt does have his own family in Melbourne who might feel like they're missing out if he's always on the Gold Coast with her and her extended family.

In relationships, it does need to be a bit of give and take, but it does make a bit more complex when you do have joint custody of a child. I mean, it seems like Matt had a great weekend. The photo dump included photos of him with his sister, drinking champagne, a pig on a spit, hot cross buns, and painted Easter eggs now. I have been keeping a close eye on Mattzakowski's Instagram since he has returned from his hiatus.

Inherited podcast, which I was pretty surprised about. To me, he doesn't really fit the mold of who they generally speak to, but they're trying to get to Tammy maybe. I mean. I have really enjoyed some of the most recent conversations on Inherited, particularly with Michelle Andrews and her mother. I was in tears in the car listening to that. I have been able to listen to it. Such a sad story but also such a beautiful one the way

that they were able to share it. I also loved the conversation with Jesse Stevens, particularly about her relationship with her husband Luca, because I mean, Shameless put that out just as all of the shit was hitting the fan, yeah, which I thought was very unwarranted. I mean, we have spoken about it in depth on our subs channel. Jesse Stevens and Meer Friedman actually appeared on the Stellar podcast the other week, and that was a really interesting listen.

It's clear that they're trying to do a bit of pr around the situation because me and Freedman just disappeared off the podcast. Yeah, I mean, majority of the conversation was about their show, well, the second season of Strife, which is about to come out. I kind of wanted more of a tidbit about their working relationship and how more so how they go as mother and daughter. They've spoken about it so many times, like how much more can they say? They obviously have to say, oh, we love.

a show like that. It's sort of like when Tammy Hembro was interviewed by Mea Friedman on No Filter. Again, we're bringing up Mea. But yeah, you know when they don't quite go into it enough and you're like, you hope for more, but it's not very insight. We might see a different side of Matt. I think this is a great pr opportunity for him to tap into that audience that are a little bit, you know, not his biggest fans, and I wouldn't be surprised if he opens

up more about his fertility. Well, yeah, it definitely sounds like it's an opportunity for people to see another side of him. I know we all have a bit of a laugh about the Matt and Tammy situation because it does come across as a bit of a circus at times, just because of the public nature of it. But the intense interest in your relationship, particularly for two young people, would be very tough to deal with, and I sometimes feel like we underestimate the strain that it would put

on both of them. Yeah, it would be very difficult.

And let's be real, most people are scrolling on Instagram and don't even read the captions, let alone a whole slab of texts. It was clearly a way for her to attract attention by following up that photo. Definitely so Chloe started out by writing big announcement. Hello, It's been a while since I have shared on here, but there's some big changes happening in my life. I have been contemplating in prayer for a good year now to gain

clarity and direction, and big decisions always scare me. But with God, I know that he holds the whole picture and I just have to work it out peace. By piece. She then went on to say it is with sadness and peace that I laid down ZEP for a little while. I mean, I didn't find this news particularly shocking. I can't say that there's been much hype around this active web brand. The last time I really heard about ze was when Chloe Zepp was being canceled over her stance

on vaccinations. When people were burning her Yeah, literally on TikTok. People were burning her active worth, throwing in the bin. They were putting masking tape over Zepp to conceal the brand. Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised it lasted six years. It was

launched back in twenty nineteen. In saying that though there were a lot of comments about how people were quite devastated that the active wear line was being shut down because people were raving about the quality of it, I think it comes down to her been quite an irrelevant influencer.

and they had really cute kids as well. But it just shows that if you're not going to continually engage with your audience and put out new content, you can become completely irrelevant space of a couple of years and your businesses will fail. I mean, back to these clickbait allegations. One person wrote, clickbaiting your followers by making it seem like you're pregnant not a good take, which got one hundred and sixty nine likes. Another said wait, guys, is

she pregnant? And someone else added, wait, wait, I'm confused. Are you pregnant or is the photo referencing being a mum to the boys already? If so, congratulations, and Chloe ended up replying saying not pregnant, but all old ZEP

photo shoots. I'm sorry is if she doesn't have any other images from past photo shoots to you, she knew exactly what she was doing, I mean to be fair, it was a photo dump, so there were a range of photos, but the pregnancy photo shoot one was the first photo on the carousel and it's been juxtapositioned with the word big announcement. Yeah exactly. Chloe did try and

clear things up on her story. She ended up sharing the post on her story and wrote, sorry if you thought I was pregnant old pick from a ZEP photo shoot when I had Sonny Bunny in my belly. I think what also added to the confusion was her very lengthy statement where she spoke about motherhood throughout it. She said she no longer had time to pursue ZEP, and while she didn't know what was next, she had peace knowing that motherhood is in her heart and she was

raising her boys. I mean this made many people assume that she was giving up ZEP now that she was having a third baby. One other thing that stood out to me about this announcement was how much Chloe reference God. So she and her fiance Mitchell Orvill recently found God, and she finished up her announcement saying, I look forward to sharing more of my journey again as I continue

to navigate with God. Do we think that possibly she's continuing either paid or unpaid work within the church, because I'm getting ultra confused how these people continue to make money when they I mean, it's clear that they're not doing many brand deals. It's not like Instagram is generating her an income anymore. And now she's dropping the business where she had employees. They recently moved into an office as well, so it seemed like they were trying to

take it to the next level. Yeah, she had six employees based on the Gold Coast. There are a lot of questions and speculation growing about what is going on with the zepp Vials, and there's been a lot of rumors about a potential split between Mitch's parents, Mark and Sharon Orville. People are questioning is the family undergoing financial hardship. Chloe's mum actually added fuel to the fire by commenting, Oh Chloe, with a crying face, so proud of my

baby girl. You are a wonderful mother and it's commendable that you are choosing to spend this precious time with your beautiful boys. Unfortunately, over the years, several people have taken advantage of your kindness and generosity. But I'm excited for your bright future with your fiance and children. Love you so so so much. Ow So she's dropping the bomb in the comment section that there is more to this closure than simply Chloe wanting to spend more time

with her kids. Hmm, she is. Do we think that there's investors involved who have screwed her over? Or is she pointing to family members? It's very up in the air who she's actually referencing. Yeah, it's very vague. I wonder if Chloe was like, oh, for fuck sake, mom, don't write that, or potentially she wanted her mum to drop the bomb like this and level a few of these accusations at people and then play it off as oh, Mom,

why did you write that? Because surely if this was some information that you didn't want out there, you would delete the comment pretty swiftly. I don't even know where to begin.

She is a twenty one year old American singer and actress who found fame on reality show Dance Mums when she was only twelve years old. She's also very famous among Jen Alfers, who she made millions off through her

very successful air Bow Empire. Now, in recent years, she has been desperately trying to cross over to a more adult audience, and her rebrand has been compared to Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball era because she dramatically tried to change up this very wholesome, kid friendly persona to a much edgier and more rebellious one.

of Chris Hughes. I loved him on that series of Love Island. See. I feel like he hasn't really been discussed much in this story. When I've heard people on podcasts or in the media talking about it, he seems to be omitted. But I feel like it's really important to know a bit more about his background. I mean, he dated Jesse Nelson from Little Mix in twenty eighteen and they actually split up in early twenty twenty, so a two year relationship there. It is interesting because maybe

he has a bit of a time for famous singers. Now. Chris is thirty two years old and he has been working as a horse racing presenter in recent times. I feel like his age has been thrown around a lot because he is eleven years older than Jojo Siwah, and people seem to be making a very big deal about that. We need to remember though, she is overage because I've seen the word groomer being tossed around.

and homophobic remarks from fellow housemate Mickey Rourke. A lot of us probably won't know who he is because I mean is the UK big Brother, but he's a seventy two year old actor and former professional boxer. It is clear brother knew what they were doing when they put him in the house. Oh, they could have probably written the script for it now. During a conversation, Micky asked Jojo if she liked girls or boys, to which she responded girls. He then remarked I know, I could tell.

He also told the twenty one year old, if I stay longer than four days, you won't be gay anymore. Now. Jojo rejected this statement, saying I can guarantee I will still be gay and I will still be in a very happy relationship. Well that has not aged well, has it now. The conversation got even more threatening when Micky said I'll tie you up, to which Jojo responded, I can promise you that won't happen. I dare you to try,

and you'll be the one tied up. Good on her for hitting back at this absolute dickhead.

but this is difficult for anyone to deal with. Oh, it's disgusting behavior from Mickey Rourke, and you can see why Jojo and Chris would have bonded so much, particularly because he was the one that stood up for her. Definitely, I think that's what really sparked their connection and initial friendship. Now, Micky was issued a former warning by the show's producers, and he was later removed from the house for making unwanted sexual remarks towards another housemate called Ella Wise, and

also for an aggressive verbal confrontation with Chris Hughes. The show was widely condemned, though for not acting sooner and removing him for his homophobic comments towards Jojo. It's very disturbing. In this day and age, you would have thought he would have been ripped out of the house instantly, but it's clear that they wanted him there for ratings.

don't want to hear the strategy. Well, they also had a live stream of the Big brother House, a bit like up Late that they used to do, but apparently anytime anything controversial or interesting happened, they would immediately blur the screen so that they'd save it for the main show. Now,

getting back to Chris and Jojo. As we all saw unfolding on TikTok, the pair developed a very close and someone say intimate relationship, and while they did describe their bonders being platonic, there were several incidents that raised concern not only amongst viewers but also their housemates, because the pair were very physically affectionate. All the massages and backs scratching, it was very flirtatious. I would not have been happy

if I was kath Ebbs. They actually slept in beds next to each other and they'd have all these late night chats, and one night she was tapping on him to see if he was awake, and then she started writing different letters in his hands to spell out something to him secretively. Yeah, a lot has been made about that because in the scene it showed her writing four letters, but she said that they actually spent the whole night writing on each other's hands, and this was actually about

a broader conversation around her gender identity. Getting back to this physical affection. The thing that was quite weird about it is it started almost instantaneously, so Chris was already giving Jojo back scratches on day three, and as you said, it progressed or cuddles. There was also a moment where they were in a hot tub together and Jojo was sitting on Chris's lap and one of the housemates, who's a UK actor called Danny Bidd, told the pair they

either either fuk or just stop and what about. There's a dance scene also going viral where they literally look like they're about to kiss. Like it's so awful watching it all back. That was another thing. They weren't just physically affectionate with one another. They appeared to have this really strong emotional connection because they were practicing for dirty dancing. That's the whole thing. They were doing this whole dance routine that wasn't part of a task or anything. They

just decided that they wanted to do it together. I don't know if you saw it, but there was also this really bizarre clip where Chris requested that Jojo lick chocolate off his shorts.

I have been wary to comment on all of these grooming allegations going on because, as we mentioned earlier, Jojo is of course over age, but also because it's hard to know the context when you just see a clip from Big Brother. A lot of the UK public are completely shipping this romance between Jojo and Chris because they loved their dynamic on the show, and they've obviously watched

a lot of footage of them together. Yes it is edited, but you know you were saying that there's you can see up late and actually look into the conversations in real time have it. I think there's also this element where people are really titillated by the fact that they think that this man has turned this gay woman straight. Oh. There is a massive element of that, and I think people are also so supportive of it because sadly, people don't actually see a lesbian relationship as being as genuine

as a heterosexual relationship, which is just so wrong. It is extremely wrong. It kind of reminds me of the hype around Tully Smythe and Drew's relationship in the Australian Big Brother House, because I think a lot of people will forget that when Tully entered the house, she actually had a girlfriend at the time and she cheated on her girlfriend with Drew. I do remember that Tully copped a lot of criticism over it, but in terms of the actual relationship with Drew, the people were shipping it

and he was very popular with the Australian public. I think he came third ines well. Getting back to Jojo and Chris, I do have to mention another really weird scene that was going viral. This was part of a challenge, so they were dressed in cat outfits and Big Brother put a kiddy little box in the shared bedroom of the housemates, and they thought it would be hilarious to piss in it together, so Chris went first, and then Jojo also squatted and pissed in the litter box. Wow.

I mean this is reminding me of a big school camp. Like people are saying, oh, how do they get close so quickly? It's kind of those situations where you've got no one else in there and it's all fun and games and you suddenly start getting feelings for each other that seems to have been what's happened to you? Yeah, it is the classic school camp scenario, particularly when you've

got all these in jokes. I've noticed that in a lot of interviews they've done since coming out of the house, and you know, JoJo's been so keen to watch all of the clips back and she just seems to be so engulfed in the experience, and you know, it's so situations where you haven't been on the camp and you're like, stop going on about it.

That's what I love about sexuality. It has been pretty remarkable to watch her navigate her sexuality on such a public stage and for her to show young people watching at home that sexuality can be fluid, because I think there's a tendency for people to want to label others straight away and to put you in a box when in reality, I think Jojo is really showing that there's this discovery process when it comes to your sexuality, and

it can take a long time. I mean, she is twenty one as well and been in the public eye for so many years, and she probably felt like she needed to come out and put a label on it very quickly. And I think what people have been loving about Jojo in The Big Brother House is she's not what she appears to be on social media. People have really loved this stripped back version of her where she's

being very raw. Yeah, and I think that she's really liked the fact that she's had her phone taken away from her there's no outside distractions, and she said that she's really had to sit in her own thoughts and reflect on her life and get to know herself on

a deeper level. And I think this admission about her sexuality is a particularly bold one to make when your partner is watching on at home, because reading between the lines, Jojo made this realization about her sexuality due to her very close friendship with Chris in the house and if you were Kath, you would be questioning everything.

It would be so hard to watch. I mean I found it hard to watch, yeah, particularly because everyone had a take on their relationship, and Kath also was beginning to experience some very relentless trolling, which just seems so unfair. And during the final week, the housemates received letters from home and Jojo was left unsettled by what she described

as Kath's cold message. So the letter in question was actually written by JoJo's mum, and in it she wrote, the most important thing to tell you is a message from Kath, because I know you really miss them the most. Kath's keen to see you when you get out. Now, of course he's being Reality TV. It was Chris who read the letter out to Jojo. That was a nice little touch, wasn't it. Now. Jojo did seem very unsettled

by this letter, and she told her fellow housemate Jack. Shephard, I'm finding myself really analyzing that note, and I don't like it. She then went to the diary room to share her thoughts on the letter. Here's what she said.

in a gushy letter to her? Yeah, I was pretty surprised by JoJo's reaction. Now following the letter, Jojo then went on and spoke to Chris and said she needed to wait forty eight hours before telling him something pressing that was on her mind. Now, to put this into context, the finale was in less than forty eight hours, so it was clear that Jojo wanted to tell him something

away from the cameras. This, of course, led viewers to speculate that perhaps she was going to tell Chris that she wanted to end her relationship with Kath and be with him now. Despite all of the online theories about Jojo and Chris's relationship and the very intense media scrutiny around it. Kath made the decision to jump on a twenty four hour flight to be by JoJo's side at

the finale. I don't blame her though, if that was my partner on TV, even if I was pissed with them, I'm not staying back home in Australia to wait for her and Chris to get out of the house and have all this alone time without me being there to be like, what is going on? Yeah, you definitely want answers. And I think it was quite clear that Kath wanted to believe that a lot of the drama on the show was fabricated and it was just a fake reality show.

And Kath found out very quickly what we saw on the show was very much real, and they were dumped by Jojo at the Big Brother Rap party, and Jojo moved very fast. She dumped Kath one hour after seeing them for the first time in three weeks. Let me point out, and I have to add in I want to call it a bit of a fun fact here, because Kath has since shared with the team from the Big Small Talk podcast that Jojo actually broke up with them when she was wearing a full feight of glitter

and chains in her hair. This was a look that she wore to the Big Brother after party, which is all over TikTok at the moment, I kept saying, everyone saying as soon as Chris saw her like that, he was really put off. Well, Kath said, it was very hard to take her seriously in that moment. Now pretty sensationally. Kath shared the news of the breakup in a thirteen minute TikTok video which has since been archived. Here's some of what they said. It has calmed my attention.

through in my adult life. But the truth of the matter is I decided to show up for my partner and hold up my end of the bargain of being in a partnership and being a teammate and I flew across the world to support and be there and hold that person in whatever they would be experiencing leaving such a wild experience, and instead I was dumped at the after party with Chris in the next room, which is fucking crazy to say out loud, It's truly crazy, Like

there's a lot of processing that needs to happen. I was told that there are confused feelings there. Do with that what you will, and that they had realized in the house that I wasn't the person that they wanted to spend the foreseeable future with, which has honestly been, as you can probably tell by my demeanor, so shocking that I feel kind of subhuman right now. Yeah, and I feel incredibly humiliated, and I feel a bit embarrassed.

I feel like the Internet might have warned me a little bit, and I.

And I think it's clear that that's because Kath wanted to believe this and they were convinced that their partner wouldn't treat them in this way, because Kath made it pretty clear that they fell victim to some pretty intense love bombing early on in their relationship with Jojo. Kath explained that Jojo told them that they were the love of her life and even asked them to marry her before heading into their house. How utterly confusing would all

of this be. To put that all into perspective, Kath and Jojo were only together for four months, so a marriage proposal is pretty intense. It was pretty fascinating to hear Kath drop bits and pieces about Chris because whilst Jojo was breaking up with Kath, they claimed Jojo said she had confused feelings in regards to Chris, so he was used as an excuse for the breakup. Kath went on to say that Jojo told them she wanted to

explore independence and certain feelings. As for how Kath felt about Chris, they said they had opinions on him which they won't go into, and said Jojo and Chris's relationship is their journey and to essentially enjoy God. That was very reserved of them wasn't if it was me, I would have gone hamm. I don't think I would have been so kind. Kath also revealed that despite their efforts to fly halfway across the world, they were met with

a lot of anger from Jojo. Kat says Jojo had a lot of anger around the letter and about Kath not wanting to appear on TV. It seems like Jojo has used this letter as a bit of a scapegoat to go, oh, it's actually you, the fucked up Kath, not me. It was really fascinating to hear what was actually going on behind the scenes with Kath, because as we touched on, they went offline during the last two weeks of the show, and they admitted it was a very upsetting time for them and they felt betrayed by

what they saw on TV. And Kath said they went offline because they couldn't get clarity or talk to Jojo, so they didn't want to jump online and speculate before they had all the fat, which I think was very fair of them. It was pretty evident how humiliated and broken they were by the whole ordeal and the immense impact that trolling has had on them, and also the media scrutiny. It's interesting to think back to the Tally Smile situation because her ex girlfriend never really had a

right of reply. We didn't have I think we had only just started to have Instagram, but there were no stories or anything. Yeah, people weren't putting out public statements on their Instagram. So it is really interesting. How you know, we've seen JoJo's side of it, We've heard from Chris Hughes, and now we're hearing from Cath and I think it's only fair that they got to share their point of view too.

totally normal. They're very touched fear. And then following the breakup, there was another camp of people who were utterly heartbroken and angry on Cat's behalf and they were adamant that they had been cheated on and JoJo's behavior was out of line. I think there are a lot of Australians particular, who felt like we needed to jump in and protect Kath at all costs. Yeah, particularly because we hadn't seen the show, so it's easy to look at it in a black and white sense and be like, hang on,

this woman has cheated on her partner. Then, of course there's the other camp who said that Kath needed to get over it and that they shouldn't be hurt because it's just a four month relationship. And then there's a people who were obviously shipping the relationship from Big Brother. There's also been a lot of people condemning Kath for making a public breakup announcement on TikTok, and I want to jump in and defend that one because Kath is not the one who made this situation public. Jojo did.

I mean Kath had to sit back for three weeks essentially watching their partner cross so many lines on international TV, so many times humiliating, and Kath was really respectful. They remained silent until they could actually speak to their partner. Yeah, exactly, And I found it really interesting to hear Abby Chatfield's

take on the situation. As we touched on, she is friends with Kath, and she explained that she has actually met Jojo a handful of times and she thought that she was lovely and mature, but then said this situation has proved otherwise. Abby went on to call Jojo a professional rage beta and said she would have been aware of the ramifications this fallout would have on Kath.

would have been trolling involved. Now, following her departure from the show, Jojo appeared on ITV's Morning Show alongside Chris Hughes. Yeah, that was very interesting. The Big Brother producers clearly know what they're doing. Everyone wanted to see their dynamic together outside of the house. Yeah, and of course Kath's very public breakup announcement had gone live, so Jojo took the opportunity to say that she hadn't been happy in the

relationship for quite some time. Here's more of what she said.

up with Kath at the Rap party. Jojo confirmed that she did break up with Kath at the Rat party, but that she didn't plan on doing it then and so Jojo claimed that Kath initially said that they didn't want to attend, but then an hour in decided to come along, Jojo said. At the party, Kat asked if Jojo was happy, and she said no, and one thing led to another. The host then asked, whatever, I want to know what is going on between Jojo and Chris.

Here's what Chris said. They're clearly a very quite bond.

it would then lead to a relationship with him. Ben the host then asked Jojo if she would like more with Chris in the future, and here's what she said.

away after another one's ended. I mean, they also live in different countries, so maybe I mean, being thirty two, maybe he's a bit more mature and wants to see how this would all work. I find the way that they keep calling one another friendship soulmates quite odd. It's a bit of wyank, isn't it. Let's be honest, what's going on. There's a lot of sexual tension there that needs to be resolved, and I don't know if that'll

be friendship soulmates after that's happened. Yeah, I wonder how long this connection will actually go on for Jojo has been posting about Chris to her eleven point two million followers on Instagram. She showed the pair having a tennis match together. I believe that they spoke about playing tennis withinside the house. To be very interesting to see how this relationship evolves. Well, if Chris is clever from a PR strategy, we want to explore this further and gain

some of those followers. Now, let's get into our Friday debrief. And so if I want to talk to you about Meghan Markle's first ever podcast interview on the Jamie Kern Lemur Show. So of course she has had two podcasts now of her own, but it's actually the first time that she's been interviewed in a long form on a podcast. And I was pretty surprised that she chose the Jamie Kern Lima show. I have never heard of this woman,

but she is the founder of IT Cosmetics. She's also been on Meghan's Female Founder podcast and the pair live next door to each other, so they're great friends. And they made such a big deal about the fact that they were sitting in the rocking chairs that they usually sit on at their house and to have these deep conversations and they both went wearing makeup. I call absolute bullshit. Jamie was wearing makeup. You can see she visibly had blush.

On Meghan, on the other hand, I think was bare face. People were commenting that she had quite an intense facetan or nobody. To be fair, that's what I'd be doing if I was told I couldn't have any makeup on. Yeah, it was quite clear there was some products being used to achieve that no makeup makeup. Look, I'm confused by the philosophy beyond it, though, because if you own a makeup brand, would you not want to be promoting the makeup that you wear on a big stage like this.

But it was all about being braw and honest. So if you actually haven't listened to it in full, you've only heard, Oh, I keep seeing a pomp up on my ticktok algorithm. And it's one of those things where it's no surprise to the listeners that I'm a big fan of Meghan Markle, but I am cringing hard at some of the moments that are being shit. See. I think that her first podcast interview should have been with Alex Cooper on Call Her Daddy. That would have given

her some credit. This podcast was so hard to get into because there was eight minutes of hype and it was so American, it was so spewy. I was like, just talk to Megan. I can't stand it. And it was like, I was like, who is this woman. She's actually interviewed Oprah before, She's got five hundred thousand followers, but it was so cringe and I'm like, no, Megan, this is not where you need to go. You need to be on a good podcast where you have a good chat, because deep down, I think she's a very

nice person. But unfortunately, because of all the press backlash, she goes on these podcasts and she has to really push and pump herself up. And she's got her friend pumping herself up, pump her up. But I think that she's got to pump up her relationship with Harry because there's been a lot of speculation that their marriage is on the rocks. Well, she did call him a fox

on the episode. She said he was a fox, and I want to throw it to the way she spoke about their relationship because she said that they're actually in the honeymoon phase now because before they were going through all of this crap with the royal family and they had to hide their relationship. But this is how she explained what Harry does for her.

out there, just constantly. He's just going to do whatever he can to make sure that our family is safe and protected and we're uplifted and still make time for depntes.

I'm Yasmin. What's your name? And she said that now she always says that to fans when she meets him, because she said she he felt so seen in that moment. Oh, I quite like that story. I think that's quite a good tactic, and it's just it's funny that it's come from a former bag Watch actor, particularly because you know she probably used that skill when she was a royal out meeting the public. Yeah, it is a good tip.

I also enjoyed hearing the backstory of why Megan calls Harry h and he calls her m And it was all to do with the fact that they had to talk in codes while they were dating. And it's just stuck. And I mean, it does come across as a little bit insufferable, but then I think about how I always call my husband darling and it started off as a joke and it's just stuck. It does make more sense now hearing that they had to speak in code. But I think age in particular isn't a letter that rolls

off the tongue easily. I mean, I'm glad that they say h instead of h oh. That is my absolute pet peeve. My husband says h and his last name is Hancock, so he's always spelling it out for people when he goes to the shops for his email, and it just grates on me and I feel like interrupting and being like, it's h yeah. Recent I had a disagreement of it, and we actually ended up researching the origins of it, and the correct way is h oh. I've seen mixed stuff. I think it can actually be both. No,

it's not, go look into it all right. Well, I think that is where we will leave things for today. Thank you so much for joining us for this episode. If you have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple podcast and also Spotify. This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to Elder's past and present.