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Will you not bomb? Rita James? What's going on? I just wish they'd get on with it. Drop the bomb, finish the Iranian nuclear in enterprise, put it to bed, finished and done. Hopefully the regime will change and we can all get on with our lives without the Iranian theocratic regime. That's my take.
Rita, well, that's a little bit hysterical. These things take time.
Now.
I think Donald Trump has actually handled this in a masterful way. Thus far. He's given the Iranians ample opportunity to come to the negotiating table and agree to essentially dismantle their nuclear program and any ambitions they have of having a bomb, which they claim they don't. But they've had five meetings since April to try to get the Iranians to submit to this position. They have thus far failed,
and that's why we are where we are. We can't have Iran with nuclear weapons, but we also don't want to have a prolonged war, another one in the Middle East, and certainly the American people have zero appetite for America being involved in another foreign war in the Middle East. Regardless of the fact that the Iranian problem needs to be dealt with, you'll either deal with it now or you deal with it once Iran has a nuclear bomb, which.
The wolves already underway. The only thing that end it is dropping the bomb. Prolonged the war by finishing the West.
Sorry, there's there's a couple of different things here that we're talking about happening. Number one, we're talking about will Donald Trump, you know, use B two bombers to drop these big, massive bombs into the mountains at fod Oh south of k ron in central Iran to end the Iranian government's ability to enrich uranium, which is the next step to creating that nuclear weapon, which according to some reports they are very close to being able to do.
So that's the one thing.
But the big question always comes and you know, this is why I think Trump has been smart to give this two week sort of buffer on this here is because you've got to figure out what comes next. I mean, number one, there's no guarantee that this bombing run works. There are things that can go wrong. It's you know,
it is a complicated, complicated mission. I know there have been reports in the last several hours that B two bombers have been making their way into position on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, from where they could undertake this sort of mission. But the big question always with the Middle East. You know, we've been burned by this in the past, and the big question is what comes next. Now, this is a real dilemma because the Mullah regime cannot
be allowed to survive at this point. The stakes are too high on the table. If they survived, then they are able to say we stood up to Israel, we stood up to the United States. We're still standing. I am, I am. I'm saying these are two separate things. And then the next question is that what happens after that?
Now? You know.
On Friday, the Crown Prince of Iran, raised a Palabi, said that he might be open to heading a sort of a transitional government. But the question is, again, we don't know. Iran is such a black box at the moment. We don't know where the Iranian people are.
Good ideas of the Iranian people. We know that if they could get rid of deocracy, they would. They haven't been at Obama and let down the Iranians back when they had their Green Revolution. That's the time when when America should have stepped up, they didn't this time round. I think you're right, James, But the point is regime. The regime is on its knees. The issue is the ability it has, and you don't want that nuclear ability to fall into the hands of whatever comes next. But
you get rid of that. That's the starting point, get rid of get rid of it.
By giving them two weeks, there is now the chance that the increased pressure from Israel collapses the regime on its own. The Ayatola has apparently already picked three potential new successors. He knows that he is next on the hit list. So this regime could collapse on its own without the United States having to get involved. And I think that is what Trump is aiming for.
Absolutely wants he wants to have minimal US involvement in any sort of regime change. And I hasten to add here that regime change in the Middle East hasn't gone particularly well. Whether we're talking about Iraq, we're talking about Syria, Libya, it has been disastrous. What's even happened in Afghanistan, as we have seen. Iran is a different equation. It's different
on just on a number of levels. And that's something I think a lot of Americans and Australians don't understand, even a lot of Trump supporters who are very anti war isolationists. You might even say Iran is a different different entirely to Iraq. We're talking about Persian people instead of Arab people. We're talking about Shia Muslims instead of Sunni. We're talking about a country that was very modern, secular before the Islamic Revolution, which plunged it into the dark
ages for the last for forty six years. So it is a very different equation. So I don't think we should be looking at what's happened in the last decade or so in the Middle East and say we don't want to see that it happen again. I think regime change is necessary in Iran. If you want to stop the the well, they have sponsored every single terror entity from Hezbolla to her Mass to what's been happening in Yemen. They have just been behind so much death and destruction
and suffering in the Middle East. It is an access of evil country. It has become that. So if you really want to have lasting peace in the Middle East, if you want to have in Iran, that is not a threat, not just to Israel but.
Eventually to America. Needs Ragi change. And that's but let me ask you, is there an appetite amongst expats irany expats for a return of the Shah.
I think there is a lot of nostalgia, a lot of people who remember what life was like back then, pre Islamic Revolution, who would love to see that. And yeah, I think that has grown significantly in the last couple of decades because that was the Iran they were proud of. That was an Iran that was, you know, a country where women had rights, where the lifestyle, the freedoms were just so dramatically different to what it's been James.
You see the footage of the girls, schoolgirls tearing off their hea jobs, very brave girls. It's the women who seemed to have been the really brave and powerful Iranians over the last a few years, wearing their hair being tortured all sorts of defying the theocracy.
And that's the thing that always gets me wrong. And that's the thing that always gets me about this here subject is, you know, the left here in Australia, left in America loves to bag on about you know, like people on the right here trying to impose some sort of hands head means tale theocracy, right and like you go over to i Ran, you go to places like that, they have actually imposed the absolutely worst sort of anti woman,
massagist regime. And yet you know, you see all the lefty groups out there right now saying, hey, hands off i Ran. I Ran has a right to fight back. You stopped that nasty Israel, You stop that. Donald trumple exactly, amlu.
Penny Wong, Anthony Alberanzi, we are being increasingly isolated with the position we have taken. We are we have a very fractured relationship right now with our biggest ally, the US. Anthony Alberzi can't get a meeting with the president. The president is doing trade tariff deals with the UK and China. He's meeting world leaders, but not our prime minister. And this was a massive misstep on his part. Anthony Alberanesi chose not to meet j Events, the US Vice President.
This is madness.
We are let down. The Albanzi government with Wong and Miles are a complete and utter joke. They have led Australia down. We used to be a significant power in the world. We are a laughing stock thanks to these clowns. Trump. Trump has no time for alban Easy. He's got that idiot Rudd in there as our ambassador. We are shamed. Australians who used to be so close to America have been completely let down by these buffoons. And that's what
they are. Reacher is right. James Albanzey could have met jd Vance, who's most likely the next president anyway, could have started that relationship, tried to build a relationships and completely blew it.
And so yeah, they had an opportunity to meet in Rome at the funeral of Pope Francis that both of them attended. Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi apparently said no, no, we're not.
Going to bother pushing for that. This comes on the Hills of It's worse than that. He said, I'm the Prime minister, why would I meet the Vice president? I mean, give me right, But here's a humorous arrogance of these idiots.
It's not just humanus and arrogance. You're missing the more sinister thing here. You're missing the more sinister thing, which is that Anthony Albanisi is quietly, by degrees, moving us away from the American Alliance and trying to put us into this kind of middle ground where we don't take
sides with either China or the United States. Now, of course, this is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, because that means that we're going to eventually, if this keeps up, you know, potentially lose some of the security umbrella under which we have been relying for decades. It's a tremendous
insult to the United States. But beyond that, it's also playing up to the worst elements of lefty anti Americanism in the Australian psyche that have been you know, given a fulcrum to wedge off of through Donald Trump and some of his actions that you get whipped up by the media here. It's very dangerous game. He's trying to use some anti Trump sentiment on the left to readjust the entire position of Australia and our foreign and security in defense policy away from the United States.
You note that when.
He's all through the campaign he talks about, you know, we don't want the divisiveness of American politics.
He never talks about, you.
Know, the divisiveness of Chinese Commonist Party politics and the influence that they have on.
It's a dictatorship.
It's a dictatorship, and that's support you.
If you oppose it, you end up in ja or possibly dead. We are not only being isolated, this is at a time when China's becoming increasingly aggressive in our region. And I don't know how we expect the US to come to our defense when we snub the Vice president, when the Defense Secretary, Pete Hegzet says, boost your defense spending in line with our other allies, and we say no, we'll decide how we spend our money. And it is
just I don't know. It just seems to be a very foolish position to get ourselves in where we are reliant on the US for our defense, and yet we are treating them with great disrespect and the American people again are sick of being the world's policemen. They are sick of their taxes financing the defense of other countries. And that's what we are expecting. We are saying, we're not going to boost our defense spending in line with.
We're just come back to something we were saying, and that was that, you know, labor, Albanese's Labor Party is behaving in the classic kind of left field. Mark Kearney in Canada, who's every bit of left us out as Albanese, Keir Starmer in Britain. They are still hardcore lefties, but
they've managed to build a relationship with Trump. And when Albanesi, Wong and Miles are they undergraduates from Sydney and Adelaide University who've never grown out of that position, can't get out of that mindset, don't belong on the international stage, had nothing of quality or caliber to take to the international stage. And we are the poorer forests.
And Kire Starbough for all of his many, many, many things, you know, but he also managed to achieve, you know, one of the first and best trade deals with the Trump administration or their new tariff regime. You know, he did this, I don't know why our prime mister will actually have my suspicions about why our prime minister doesn't.
And it's this whole thing.
It goes back to he is using this phrase Australian values and want everybody out there to whatever. He uses this phrase Australian values to prick up your ears, because what he's really talking about is a very particular undergraduate socialist,
anti American set of values. And he thinks it by standing up, you know and saying, oh, well, we're not going to deal with the Americans, he thinks that that's actually being strong and like on a certain undergraduate level, you say, you get what he's trying to do here, but it's actually really disrespectful. Ultimately, forget about America. It's disrespectful to the Australian people who voted him into office and on whom they rely for a proper defense, security
and economic policy. That's who are the big losers. So it's okay to say dis America, oh, you know, whatever, but it's really it's really hurting Australians at the end of the day. And that's what everybody who's commenting and saying, oh great, good work elbows, stick up to the Americas. We're losing out here, guys.
Then now Albanez is the beneficiary of some truly putred Australian media reporting on US politics, I mean, and he has seizing on that because almost uniformly, almost with the exception of a couple of programs on this station, the coverage of US politics, the coverage of anything Trump related, is so demented, so out of touch with reality, that he has got this opportunity right now to say, look, I'm anti Trump, I'm tough this, and he's seizing that
it's easy politics. This may not be good for the country long term.
It could be absolutely who paved the way, the Liberal Party of last election, who disints themselves from Trump, who walked away, pretended they didn't know who Trump was or
didn't want to have anything to do with him. I said at the time, the smartest thing that the Liberals could have done when Donald Trump was elected and it looked like he would be president and then was elected, the Peter Dutton should have been on the first plane over to sit there and map out of strategy for working well with America, which is obviously what Australia needs. To do. But we had a joke of an election full of lies. One of the biggest lives was about Medicare.
We now learned that one million Australians wait for this. We had to all remember during the election campaign. Every five minutes there's Albanesian Wong and whoever else standing there waving their little green Medicare card around. We now learned that one million Australians are missing out on specialist doctor
appointments because the costs are so high. A new report by the Grant Institute reveals that one million Australians are delaying or skipping specialist doctor appointments due to the high cost, with one in ten paying nearly six hundred dollars annually. Specialist fees have skyrocketed. This was what we were promised, this one little card here it is yet all lies. You were deceived, You were lied to, and the Liberal Party did not know how to stand up to those lies. What a disgrace.
Reata absolutely and this is a Gratton Institute report. This is a leftist entities, This is an entity that wants to in any way damage the alban Easy government. But the reality is the reality in this case, and the Liberals.
Not only were they feckless, spineless, didn't have the courage to really articulate their policies and positions and have a proper debate at the last election, they was also completely hopeless in tackling this misinformation that the Labor Party had about their attitude to Medicare, what they were going to do to the program.
And here we are.
We had so many people out there who thought the Libs were going to slash Medicare spending and have people say that out of pocket expenses saw when that's actually happening right now and has been happening under the Albanese government. And to have in a first world country people avoiding medical appointments because that can't afford the cost, that's a shameful thing.
Well, I you know, it's interesting because during the whole election campaign, you know, Alban Eazy basically made a fetish of Medicare. He made a fetish of our of our entire medical system, and of this idea that you know, you don't have to pay anything. And he was basically taking a leaf out of the Labor playbook in the UK, trying to turn the you know, our healthcare system like the NHS there into this kind of like totemic thing. This is what it means to be Australian. It's not
a fair go. It's not you know, liberty is not this. It's not that it's free medical care, which is sort of a funny sort of thing because of course it means you know, first of all, you're making a claim on your fellow Australians every time you go to the doctor. But also so you know, if you look at the DHS and how that worked out, well, the NHS, it's a disaster. They've actually taken the precisely lesson from all of this.
Australians are the poorer for it. We're losing out on energy, we're losing out on our economy, we're losing out our health system is collapsing. But there's always rita. We've always at least we do have one politician who rises above the rest sounds head and shoulders above hers a degree of sophistication, eruditeness and political savviness that sees here she
was outside Buckingham Palace. Great Representative of Australia, Senator Lydia Thorpe was standing outside Buckingham Palace this week and she had some messages for the Prince. She had a middle finger raised, sorry to the King. She had Oh there's the Australian flag. Yeah, that is our Australian flag. Now for the Labour Party to believe. And there she was performing yet again. I think she's there to pay her acknowledgments and respects to the traditional owner of Buckingham Palace, which,
of course so the Druids and the Celts. The Celts I thought it was a Sacksburg cash.
Stayed for the traditional owners. There is very troubling. But you know what, the Labor Party is about fifteen years behind Lydia Thorpe.
Let's not fall out. I know they're heading down the same path.
The moder left is increasingly becoming more radical, more feral. So she is a leader. Really, she is just a little bit ahead of her time, and a decade or two she could be leading the Labor Party exactly just.
Before a time.
Well, I just wonder if you she's gone any sort of London adult establishments and you know, got bitch many of those, but the but no, it's also funny too, because of course, you know this is as you were saying before Rowan, you know she's part British herself, so she's actually disrespecting the indigenous heritage of her ancestors there.
So yeah, exactly.
Now we're talking about how utterly hopeless the Liberal Party have been federally, But can we please just take a minute and marvel at the Victorian The skill with.
Which John Pursuito got is one and a half million dollars.
All those Liberal voters out there, all those Liberal Party supporters who must be shaking their heads with disbelief and putting their money away, who won't be contributing to the Liberal Party in future because of the way you behave giving money to John Pursuitter, who demonized More Redeeming, demonized in fact, all women, because More Redeeming was simply standing up for the rights of women not to have their personal spaces and sporting spaces and schools and other places
invaded by men pretending to be women. John Pursuito defamed her, got penalized the correct way through the legal system, and now the Liberal Party are coming out and giving one and a half million dollars to support pursuit It's alone, a loan alone.
That's interesting because the popular opinion is This is a unique loan, the type that never needs to be paid back. I don't think many people are expecting it to be paid back. But the Liberal party is supposed to be about personal responsibility. What happened to that philosophy and what happened to that principle.
Or loyalty, loyalty to your party memory.
This is a man whose woes are entirely self inflicted, and to be bailing him out right now in this fashion is just absolutely appalling. They weren't going to be paying more a deemings at legal fees if she lost this case, if she was out of pocket a couple of million dollars.
No, this he.
Has caused so much destruction within the Victorian Liberals, he has caused so much harm, continues to do so, and he's been rewarded with it with a one and a half million dollar loan.
And yet, I mean, this is this is where there is such an opening for a proper conservative party in this country. Here, I mean, this is the swampiest of swamp behaviors here, all the insiders getting together, you know, patting each other on the back.
That's okay.
I had a little Barry Krocker there you know, here's a bit of money. Take care of that for you. You know, come back. You don't have to be bankrupt. You can stay at Parliament. We don't have to have a bi election because god forbid. You know, we have a by election, boy, that could really tip the balance of power in Victoria if we lost that.
Until though, until though.
The Libs understand right away you were saying about what they believe in. I don't know what the Liberals believe in. I mean, if you like I said, a right person. I talked to so many people, not just in Victoria, but before this last election who said the Liberals and they say, I voted for Liberals every election since it's eighteen. They say, you know, they didn't give me one single
reason to vote for it. And then you see all the party elders in Victoria, you know, standing up for saying, oh, well, you know, John just had a little bit of a mistake there. We're going to stick up for him there because somebody who comes in, as you know, saying something actually the people believe but it's too contentious for you know, the swamp to touch, you know, around gender and things
like that. Well, you know, we see which way they fall the whole, the whole moral kind of constituency of their party has fallen.
Apon it that have got no moral compass. It's the problem in this case, it was. It's a ninety ten issue at worse than eighteen twenty eighty percent of the population is with more a deeming and you we've got Labor liberal and the Greens the people we can vote for, or sitting with the activist class. I mean it is mad.
It is. And let me just say, DZA that that one and a half million dollars could have been much spent, better spent maybe getting people like Daniel Wilde into Parliament instead of wasting it on John PURSUITO. That's where you could have spent your money during the election, getting people elected anyway. That's why people give you money. After the break, Rita's Reality Check, Richard Kemp joins his live from TELLINGVIV lots more plus emissions impossible. And I think.
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I'm used to call me the Peri and Princess goes folks.
That's where I grew up Yep.
I grew up in Tehran, where I was forced to line up with school and chant death to America over and over again, chanting for the destruction of the country of my birth that was never going to happen. I used to have silently mouthed the words, but never actually say it. That was my little act of resistance. In primary school in Iran, I was forced to wear a
dehumanizing hijab just to be allowed to attend school. This is a country where family members and family friends were targeted by the Islamist regime, arrested, beaten, and yes, even some were killed. We're having a picture of the Shah was tantamount to a death sentence.
That's the Iran.
I grew up in a country that went from being relatively modern, free and secular to being an Islamist hellhole. After the Islamic Revolution, women were stripped of their rights and they remained to this day second class citizens. Women can be arrested, beaten, some of em been killed for just showing their hair. So you can understand why this week I was fascinated to learn that no women in Iran.
Don't have it so bad.
Indeed, folks in America, if they happen to be black or.
Gay, have it far worse.
Well, that's what you'd think if you were watching the spectacularly stupid ravings of Whoopy Goldberg on the view.
The Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings.
They don't have here to be sic human, Listen here, let's.
Not let's not do that.
Let's not do that, because if we start with that, we have we have been known in this country to tie gay folks to the.
People. So it's not even the same. I couldn't. That's not what you mean to say. It is the same.
Yes, Whoopy thinks it's the same. She thinks America and Iran are the same, the human rights abuses are the same. The fact that more than ninety million people are oppressed in Iran and women doubly so systematically subjugated by brutal regime, she thinks that's the same as America. That is the modern left, folks, dumb, dishonest, and dangerously delusional.
And that's why I am saying that it is the same.
Murdering someone for their difference.
Is not good. Whoever does it's not good. So that's why I.
Said you weren't saying what you what I heard was not.
What you meant.
I think it's very different look in the Night Season twenty twenty five than it is to live in a.
World you're black, not for everybody, not if you're black, not if you're black. Really, so, crime happening in America, black person killing another black person, for example, for which the perpetrator will be punished, is the same in Whoopies warped wind as the state killing you because you're a minority,
because you're gay or an infidel for example. Let me be clear, the Iranian regime will hang you from Ukraine in the public square for crimes like blasphemy, witchcraft, homosexuality, and of course if you dare show any descent if you challenge the brutal regime, woopethinks that's pretty much how black folks are treated in America.
Your absolute disgrace.
Of a human being, whoopee to show absolutely no regard for the Uranian women who risk their lives to challenge the Islamist government to minimize their struggle, and compare it to your fever dreams about oppression in America in twenty twenty five. You know it's been sickening to witness the backflips from so many leftist feminists who just three years ago said they stood with the women of Iran as
they fought against the countries oppressive hjabblaws. The woman life freedom Uprising has long been forgotten, it seems, by the left, who would rather rail against Trump and Israel than be honest about the threat and nuclear Iran poses to the region and to the world. But let's get back to whoopee, whose pathetic tantrum was cheered on by the views equally pathetic and dim witted audience.
But I think it's important we remember there are places much darker than this country and people.
Not everybody feels that way. Not everybody feels that way. Listen, I'm sorry. You know when you think about the fact that we were we got the vote in nineteen sixty.
Five, Okay, they don't have free and fair elections in Iran.
It's not even the same universe.
They can't go out of their house.
You know what.
There's no way I can make you understand.
It's it's like try to reverse roles with a black person in this kind let's say, because I think that's what you're talking about. Yes, just try to understand from their point of view. From that point of view, this country does not do them well, does not.
Go Yes, thanks joy, Black folks America have it as bad as the people in Iran. Thanks for that, joy, Beija, you simpleton clown. Did you know people in Iran can be arrested, tortured, and executed for peacefully protesting against the government. Women taking off their hijab to protest the hijab laws
can be arrested, tortured, even killed. You can be sentenced to death for sodomy, homosexuality, adultery, political dissidence, blasphemy, for repeated consumption of alcohol, pornography, for crimes that fall under waging war against God, and for spreading corruption on Earth. Amnesty International reports that Iran in twenty twenty four was responsible for sixty four percent of all recorded executions worldwide.
It's one thing to be anti war, but to carry water for a backward and brutal Islamist government is a new low for the modern left, and it follows a trend we've seen since October seven, when the progressive act of as class decided it was fashionable to be virulently anti Semitic. President Donald Trump was elected on an America First platform, and there exists a small but loud and influential band of his supporters who are dead set against
any US involvement in the Israel Iran conflict. They argue America's interests are not served by standing with Israel to destroy Iran's nuclear program, let alone becoming an active participant in the war. But that is frankly a shortsighted and naive position. America will have to deal with the Iranian problem at some point, and it's in the country's best interest to do it before Iran acquires nuclear weapons. That is a point Donald Trump has made for a decade.
He has been entirely consistent in arguing that Iran cannot be allowed to choir would develop nuclear weapons. And Trump understands perfectly well that it will not just be Israel that would be in the firing line if that were to happen.
Rita, that was fantastic and your family's bravery and seeing that photo of you as a little kid, and we've also seen amazing photos of your mum back in the day looking like a glamorous model in an nineteen sixties American fashion thing that was min skirts and mini skirts, and that was the Iran that your family remember, and let's hope that's the Iran we all get to see, particularly your family and other Expaterranians in the very near future. Joining us now live from Tel Aviv is former British
Commander Richard Kemp. Richard, great to see you as always. Thank you so much for staying up late there in tel Aviv. You're right at the heart of the action, as you always are. So a couple of questions. First, what's it like in tel Aviv? We hear all these kind of crazy things. At half of two thirds of tel Aviv has been destroyed by the Iranians. All this sort of stuff or nonsense. You can fill us in on that, and obviously the big question what's going to happen next in Iran.
It's very quiet in tel Aviv.
It's been extremely quiet since the war began to swell a week ago. Very few people are on the streets, many shops are closed, schools are closed. The idea, of course, is for people to stay as close as they can to their bomb shelters in the event of a further missile attack, and we've had in the last week, we've had here in Tel Aviv. I've also been in Jerusalem, but we've had several ballistic missile attacks pretty much every
night and sometimes during the day as well. But there's one thing I think that's a strategic benefit to Israel, and that's bomb shelters. Pretty much every building and it has their own bomb shelters. Every new an apartment block order has to have reinforced rooms built into them.
They are public shelters.
And what that's done is to make this war entirely tolerable for the people in Israel. So far, Iran has fired something like five hundred and fifty ballistic missiles approximately at Israel and some total of people killed and that has been around twenty five. Now that is terrible. Each death is it was terrible, But if you think about it, it's nothing like the kind of strategic impact that the
IOTOL has promised. And so the reality is that the IDF and Americans support as well on the ground has down something like eighteen ninety percent of all missiles fired. Something like a thousand drones I think have been fired at Israel from Iran, and only one of them and that was today actually impacted in Israel. The rest were dealt with so that the damage is pretty minimum.
Have been some pretty severe damage to buildings.
I was in the hospital yesterday in bear Chauv down in the South which sustained severe damage from an Iranian ballistic missile, which was clearly deliberately targeted. Does all of them have been in civilian population centers? So that's the reality of life people are. I think people are very very united and then decided to see this war continue to its conclusion, whatever conclusion did arise at and Iran.
I think Israel's shown itself to be extremely strong. Iran has shown itself so far anyway to be extremely weak.
James, Colonel, I want to ask, but then where this goes next?
Here?
Because the Israelis have been indicating in some of the reports that I've seen that they don't want to wait two weeks for the Iranians to come back to the table, this deadline that Donald Trump has put on them. At the same time, it appears from what you're saying and all the reports aren't there, that Iran can't continue to fight because their ballistic missilarge have been destroyed, their attack offensive capability has been downgraded, and Israel just has the upper head on this.
Where does this go next?
Does this wind up with some sort of attack at Florida or where the Uranian and Richmond is or does at some point the Iatola regime begin to crack, crumble, collapse under the weight of the Israeli assaults on its ability to make war.
I think either it's possible, to be honest, the IDF have been.
Severely attacking Iran's ballistic missile capability. They have knocked out someone that forty or fifty percent of the rocket launchers, and of course Iran has a finite number of rockets anyway, and I'm not sure how many more they've got in their armory, but the number of volleys fired at Israel is diminishing constantly, So we'll have to see what happens about that. But I think people say a lot that
Iran Israel can't deal with FIDO. So Forardo is ninety meters below ground, I wouldn't count on that.
I believe.
I don't know what weaponry Israel has and what other plans they have for Fordo, but I very much doubt the Prime Minister Netsiya, who launched this campaign without plans to deal with to achieve his objectives effectively, whether with or without American assistant. So I think the real virtue of America coming in is probably a more decisive attack on Fordoh, a key in Richmond plant but also to speed up the end of the war. So I think
that would be highly beneficial. But if President Trump decides not to do so, I don't think that would be the end of the game.
And by the way, I'm in no.
Doubt that Trump and Netna, whose plans are entirely synchronized, in this before it began, I think the chances of regime collapse have to be there. There are many opposition groups inside Iran. I don't know how strong they are. I don't know whether any of have the particular capability of overthrowing the regime, but certainly now they're seeing the weakness of this regime, which they've been fearing ever since nineteen seventy nine. So maybe that they're encouraged to bring
the regime down. That could happen, And you know, I think Israel's military action could actually enable that, and perhaps even more.
So if the US does join.
And I think seeing the US directly opposed to Iran could encourage even more potential uprising within the Iranian people.
The Trump administration has given an opening, though, to the Iranian regime to perhaps come to the negotiating table and agree to some of the conditions that they that the US is demanding. Can you see that as a possibility at all? Or is it going to seem incredibly weak for them to submit to these conditions whilst they're being bombed by Israel.
I think they'll be extremely rking to do that.
They made it clear in their recent so called negotiations with European leaders that they're not going to do that while Israel's attacking in Israel certainly is not going to stop attacking, so I suspect that that's probably unlikely, and I think it would be pretty catastrophic if there was some kind of negotiated settlement. I don't think it is possible to end this threat, not just to Israel, but to the Middle East and the world. It's nuclear weapons.
I don't think it's possible to end that in any way other than by military force. I think the idea that the Iranians would dismantle their own nuclear capability is for the birds, no matter what many other I don't think it's going to happen.
And Richard, what's also been very noticeable is the muted reaction, from the non reaction from the rest of the Arab world. So we've always, for years and years been told, oh, you can't tag Iran because you know, the whole Arab street will rise, it'll be the end of you know,
et cetera, et cetera. And yet thanks to the Abraham Accords, thanks to Trump's brilliant you know, moves with Saudi Arabia and with Egypt getting them all on board, is it fair to say that the Abraham Alliance now looks like being the thing of the future that will be the dominant power in Middle East politics or military.
Certainly, I think it is, and I think that that's made much much more likely by this campaign by Israel. Let's not forget that Iran doesn't just hate the Jewish States and America, it also hates the Sunni Arab world, probably at least as much, and is seen as a big threat to every Arab country in the region.
They want Israel to win this.
They've been cheering Israel on, maybe not publicly, and maybe some of their statements have been a bit different to that, but certainly they want Israel to defeat Iran, and Israel's show of strength here I think will certainly encourage country like Saudi Arabia in particular, but other Arab countries as well to kind of normalize relations with Vere and join in the Abraham Accords. So I think we're going to see a completely reshaped Middle East once this conflict is finished.
Colonel Richard Kemp, always great to chat to you, and thank you so much for coming on outsiders as you always do. Stay safe there in Tel Aviv, and thank you again for staying up so late in your bunker there or in your room, but please stay safe and we'll chat again, saying thank you so much. Conor Richie Kempt there in Tel Aviv. As it's all happening after the break. We've got our brand news segment. Emissions impossible
in a tick, Yes, emissions impossible. We are heading. We are de industrializing our nation, we are crippling our economy. We are making life hard for small businesses. We are making life awful for people who don't have all the means to warm the houses or air condition the houses,
or whatever it might be. All in the pursuit of net zero emissions, and we have to remind ourselves why we are doing this, because the government believes that we are headed towards a global boiling, global warming catastrophe in the future, which can only be solved if little old Australia deindustrializes itself. Well, we were promised a warm winter
and yet, as anyone knows, it's been a freezing cold winter. James, the Bureau of Meteorology spokesperson said in the weekend in June fifteen, minimum temperatures were two degrees below average for most of the country and up to ten degrees below average in large parts of Queensland. It's freezing jams rowan Rita.
I've got the very disturbing news for you here and I want everybody at home to be just put down your drinks.
It's cold in winter. Okay.
This apparently comes a great shock to the Barford's earthy Bureau of Meteorology and at all of our friends at the Fairfax Press of the ABC. Of course it's called but the thing here that all of this sort of comes down to, you know, oh it's two degrees below average. Oh no, it's too whatever that thing is all of
this warming stuff. The ideology around it is based on this idea that somewhere there's a perfect temperature that it should be every day, and that if somehow the temperature that day deviates from that perfect temperature, it's all our for doing it.
It's our fault.
We control the weather, and we need to go and do different things to change that temperature. Now, the thing is, of course you talk about the industrializing here, well Rowan, The fact is, and the lid you've got a lift on the whole sort of global warming movement is that this is what economies do.
This is what countries do.
This with political parties, particularly on the left do when they've given up on trying to be productive and invent new things and create new things. So what are we going to do to create economic activity. Well, we will tear down our existing power system and we will rebuild a whole new one that's entirely complicated and jerry rigged with batteries and solar panels and wind farms and this and that hydro and we'll call it that zero And a lot of people are going to make money off
of the process of doing this. But the end result, of course, on the actual temperature it's still going to be cold in winter, it's still going to be hot in summer. This is not about being more cleaner and not polluting the air and the waters.
All of that's good stuff.
This is about just creating economic activity for its own sac shifting money around.
But have a look at the media's role in this. I think we've got some images here of a temperature in summer in the UK and how it's presented. So back in nineteen ninety five, it's twenty eight degrees, lovely for a summer's day.
But now twenty eight degrees.
Has got you know, warnings and red and the whole place is on fire. And so much of what we are seeing is only happening because we have such a complicit and stupid media that is not questioning any of this. And going back even just five ten years to some of these doomsday predictions that we were told were going to happen, and none of them have eventuated, none of them have come close to eventuating, and holding people accountable, none of that's happening other than on a couple of
programs like this. And here we go. Look at Australia. We should have streets paved in gold. We are so lucky to be blessed with just so much gas, coal, uranium, and yet we've got these hugely expensive energy prices. And like you said, Rowland, we've got Australians who can't afford to heat their homes in winter cool them in summer because the bills are going.
To be too high.
And then what you refer to there in Britain, there's amazing two graphics. In Britain they now call thirty degrees a heat wave, or even twenty eight degrees a heat wave. But this is hilarious. And the UK Telegraph is reporting a report commissioned by the Department for Energy Security and net Zero warned that much of the energy grid this is in Britain, have a listen and infrastructure we're at
risk from warm weather over twenty seven dectories. Little One is said to have the first heat wave of twenty to twenty five this weekend, with health officials warning of a risk to life from temperatures over thirty The report offers multiple warnings that net zero technology like solar panels and evs will melt in the twenty seven degrees. I mean, seriously, these people are.
Completely and so have jumpers or twenty seven degrees.
I mean, are you kidding me? And let's not.
Forget also when we keep talking about catastrophic warming, way more people, even in a warm climate like Australia, way more people die from cold than from heat. Yes, that's our reality, undisputed exactly.
I'll tell you what else has dyed the Liberal Party. We heard it this morning Dante and on this show with Andrew Pannell being quizzed about will the Liberal Party abandon that zero the only sensible forward economic and indeed national security approach any sensible party could have have a listen to Dantean, do you believe the opposition will abandon a net zero target by twenty fifty policy?
Well, we have a process we're going through at the moment.
Ah, here we go. We have a problem this and and and we've got a carton missions. We've got to do this, and we've got a role to play in the world. I mean, these people, James are technically insane.
Well, and you know they're forgetting that their role right now is the opposition, you know, which is to present an alternative way of doing things. And elsewhere that interview
that Dante had had with Andrew Clenell. He was also asked about the prospects of Australia hosting this huge climate HUHA get together in Brisbane, which of course is opening us up to a huge debacle, not just because of the you know, the conference self, but actually because to get the conference, Chris Bowen is very likely to push for us to have even tighter net zero restrictions, further crippling our economy. Did not engage with that question at all.
This is the issue that they need to be fighting on because it is where everything else flows from. The two issues actually that they need to be fighting on our A energy, b immigration. Everything else stems from those two things.
Absolutely. I was also amused by this story that transcrid CEO Brett Redmond giants. Yeah, Brett Redman warning Australians. Yeah, so say.
Brett Redman, who speaks a head of AGL Now he's had of transcript and you know he has added his voice here.
Again.
This is the thing that we've got to remember about labor and this labor government. They have no time or no interest in what the private sector has to say at all. They don't understand the private sector, They don't understand what the private sector needs. Brett Redman does know what the private sector needs. He knows that they need reliable energy. He has worn Now we've talked in the past about you know, hot spells in Australia putting great deal pressure on the grid, creating blackouts.
And things like that.
Well he's saying the same thing could happen when you have these cold spells as well, with grid instability and so on. He said, well, you know there are now prospects in Victoria for blackouts, for everybody to be forced to take cold showers in the liddle of winter because their hot water heaters can't run. So really, well done to all concerned in the net zero transition. Isn't it fantastic?
Reader? And isn't it fantastic? El Redta. We have more failed hydrogen plants these photos from Matt Canavan. Remember Chris Bowhen and Anthony Albanezi were telling us that green hydrogen was going to be We were going to be the great souperpower Australia with its green hydrogen. This thing here you're seeing on your screen costs ninety million dollars. You've paid for this, You've paid for the ship as Rita says ninety million dollars and it's now just a couple of jobs left.
Come onbelieve this is the white in taxpayer funds that has gone towards this project is astonishing. So not only we're paying more in bills, and businesses are somehaps some of closing, some are shifting overseas because the energy costs here are just not sustainable. But people are getting rich, some very rich people are getting richer thanks to the taxpayer subsidies that exist. That the market is being so
manipulated in this area. If this was a free market thing, I would say, okay, let it sort itself out.
But it's not. It isn't interesting central planning.
It is interesting how many of those people who are getting rich off of this have links to the Liberal Party.
So that might oh, why oh, that does explain certain things. After the break Central, the American Experiment, President John Heinderaker, Aaron outsider, is back in a tick well exciting us. In the last few minutes, We've just heard from truth Social from Donald Trump that America has struck three Iranian nuclear sites with American military. James read us What's Donald Trump has said?
Donald Trump has just posted this to his true social site.
I'm reading it right now.
He said, we have completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran, including four dohnatans in Esfahan. All planes, donald Trump says, are now outside of Iran airspace. A full payload of bombs was dropped on the primary site four doh All planes are safely on their way home. The President says, congratulations to our great American warriors. There is not another military in the world that could have done this. And then in all caps, the president writes,
now is the time for peace. Exclamation point, thank you for your attention to this matter. So Fida, of course, is the site Rohodan Rita that was the site of all that Uranian enrichment that people were concerned about, that this was where they were going to get the weapons grade uranium to be able to break out and build themselves in atomic bomb. So that's huge news about what happened there, and who knows what happens next for the regime.
Well, this is what Donald Trump is saying, now is the time for peace. So he's actually linking peace through strength, which of course has been Donald Trump's motto all along. We have and that idea is, of course, that you do have to use force from time to time. Now, this is a pivotal moment in history, and I think this is absolutely critical that Donald Trump has come out shown that he has prepared to use American might to
deliver peace to fight evil. And there is no question that the Iranian nuclear development, that theocratic regime and its designs to use nuclear power against Israel was pure evil. Donald Trump has stepped up, as I always knew he would and believed he would, used American force and might to destroy Isfahan, Natans and four to Oh. We don't know if he's completely destroyed them, but he's used them. He says the mission has been successful. And we presume
James and that was with these bunker busters. We don't know, but we presume that that's what he's referring to. James.
Well, yeah, that's right. We don't know exactly what were used yet. We don't know too many details. I'm just searching around for some more details on this. But we did see, as we've plaged at the beginning of the show, over the last twelve hours, b two planes and people who were tracking these things noted that there were massive convoys of aerial refueling planes all the way on the road to Diego, Garcia, because of course these huge bobs
weigh an awful lot of money, a lot of poundage tonnage. Sorry, and they cost a lot of money too, but they are but you know, just even taking off with them means you've got to refuel pretty quickly. So yeah, so a huge, huge mission there straight into the heart of around fourdoh is in the center of the country. It south of Tehran, deep in those mountains, you know, mountains which should be you know, in peaceful times, they should be used for ski fields and things like that rather
than nuclear, nuclear weaponry and things of that nature. So again, this is a huge, huge development. The big question, of course is you know how much of that relationship with Benjamin net Yahoo was behind this. Did net Yahoo say, hey, look we've got to go sooner, because of course Trump had said we were going to wait two weeks, but maybe it was just that the Iranian said, look, we're not doing it, so they said, well we'll pull the trigger down.
Well, I think this has got everyone's got to really sit back and realize this is one of the great moments in our history. In the history of the West. This is what for five decades, the Iranian regime has tortured its people, has terrorized the West, has terrorized the people of Israel, has threatened world peace. Is an evil regime with an evil theocracy at the heart of that regime.
And finally, an American president has stepped up and done what the West did at the end of the Second World War, used its military superiority to destroy an evil regime and save millions of deaths down We will never know, thank goodness, how many people would have died had Iran got a nuclear weapon. We can only imagine the horror and the terror that awaited us. Donald Trump has consistently, for decades, long before he was in politics, said what many of us knew and believed to be the case.
Iran must never ever be allowed to have nuclear weapons. We had all that nonsense for eight years of the Barack Obama regime pussy footing around with the Iranians shipping palettes of gold bullion and gold bars, saying, Oh, you can have your nuclear weapons, but just not now. Push it a bit further down the track. Trump said no. Trump has defied the Iranian regime. He's defied all the naysayers. He's defied the left, Penny Wong, Anthony ALBANIZI, no, you
don't de escalate. We don't need your little, little, nice, little lefty slogans. What we need is decisive Western power to say no to an evil and put an end to a Donald Trump is saying now that the three if you just tuned in the three nuclear bases of Fordo, Natanzan Isfahan, the Americans have struck successfully, and he's saying this is obviously the first step towards peace. Now, Rita,
we were just talking about your family, your childhood in Iran. Rita, I believe you will return to Iran and see Iran with your family as it was when you left. I hope that is the outcome of what we learned this morning. Donald Trump has dropped three bombs on the Iranian nuclear power plants.
Well, when Pennywong to about de escalations, she's talking about the continuation of the rain of the mad mullers of the Islamist regime in Iran. That's what de escalation means. It means they continue in power and you stop bombing them and stop trying to have regime change. I got to say I did not think in my lifetime, and let's not jump the gun here, because the regime could survive this. We don't know exactly. I mean, it's literally
happened in the last few minutes. So but if there is regime change, it's something I didn't think would happen in my lifetime that I would be able to ever go back to Iran, because certainly I haven't been there since I fled with my family. It would be madness for me to go back. I'd be locked up and executed in record time. But if there is regime change, obviously that would be something that could happen. So I genuinely did not think that was a posibility because I
didn't think we would have a Donald Trump. I mean, Donald Trump is a generational leader. He's a leader unlike any we have seen, certainly in my lifetime. Again, and what he has managed to do in a short period of time domestically, you look at what he's done with that illegal immigration crisis in a matter of weeks, and what he's been able to do to the Iranian regime.
The first term, he demoralized them, he impoverished them, isolated absolutely, We're told that was going to start Wars three, it did not, and this time around if he is pivotal in seeing regime change there astonishing.
James James, let me just quickly say, we'll do an outsider show in Isfahan with Reefer and James and Rowan that that's what we're going to do.
That will be so called to be the best outside broadcast ever. But you know, I'm going to talk more of this next segment about Penny Wong and all of
that stuff. But you know, it's such a contrast because all through this Albanizy labor government, we have seen Anthony Albanisi say, oh, well, you know, we're standing up for Australian values, values, values, values, values, values, and what we've revealed here today in the last you know, two hours, twenty four hours last week or so, has really been that Australian values when it comes to foreign policy don't exist. They are the values of both sides. Is of their
the values of saying hey, everybody call me down. That's actually not peace making. That's a piece of the dead. That is giving peace to dictators and bad guys. And this is not about you know, going into stopping around
the world and overturning every regime we don't like. This is about a regime that, Asrita very capably explicated, you know, is a terrible regime that have uses its own people and that has been responsible ever since those students stormed the American embassy in nineteen seventy nine, and many of them went on, including Amadinijad, to become leaders of this regime.
Sponsored terrorism. Hamas has Belah made the Lebanese Civil War hard show that it was sponsored assassinations around the world, sponsored hijackings around the world, blew up Jewish cultural centers around the world, including one in Argentina many years ago that killed around two hundred people. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, there is so much bad stuff sheeted home
to this regime. The idea, the idea that this government that Penny Wong and anthemy E would say, oh well, let's just be peaceful about it, let's just try and dial things down so that they can survive and keep doing all the awful stuff they're doing. Well, I don't know what's driving that. Is it a sense of weakness and a failure to understand Australia's true interests? Is it
more sinister. Is it a more cinist thing where it is trying to filter domestic politics through our foreign policy to say, well, you know, maybe our Islama communities here might not appreciate our standing up against Iran. Now I disagree with that. I disagree with that. I disagree with that, but yeah, I agree, but I think that. But it's just you've got to wonder what all the possibilities are.
Just a deeply ideological position that these people have held from their days in student politics. I don't think it's more complicated than that. I also, I think because of the way the media reports on Trump, they also see it as being politically useful to take that position. But overwhelmingly, I think it's a position born out of their ideology. This is what they believe. This is why they entered politics.
They are fundamentally were They're anti western, anti Western. Yeah, this guilt about Australia, this black arm band view of our country, it extends to Western civilization and that's that's where these positions come from. And you look at the fact that the Australian Labor Party, our current government is ruled by their socialist left faction pretty much cleared now not we're here.
And they're not.
You know, we know that Labor is not comfortable with the country's Anglo English heritage. We know that they're not comfortable with Australia's historic American alliance since World War Two, and so you know, they wind up in this sort of identity politics world where anybody that's not Western, you know, they wind up giving a bit of an up to because it's always like whoever is supposed sort of anti Western, Well, they're on their side.
That's why it's undergraduate.
That's why they had to you know, pussy foot around Israeli harmas. That's why they've done the same thing here.
You know.
Well, hey, bad news, guys. I'm sorry to break it to you, but something bad has happened to Iran.
Exactly, So if you've just tuned in, I just repeat the news is Donald Trump is saying that he has dropped three bonds on Iran, on the three nuclear power plants of Ford, oh, Ispahan, and Natance. Now, I believe what virtually no other commentator does say or believe, or politicians, certainly with only a handful of exceptions, believe we are now at a pivotal moment in history. And I'm prepared
to say it out loud. Donald J. Trump is one of the most extraordinary and crucial political figures of the modern era, possibly since the American Civil War. All the Trump derangement syndrome crowd and there are so many of them, look increasingly ridiculous. It's too soon to crow, as Rita is saying, for certain, but it looks increasingly likely that we will finally see peace in the Middle East and an end to the terrorism stop stoked for five decades
by the sinister and evil Iranian theocratic regime. We are on the threshold of a new Middle East order, dominated by an abraham alliance of Israel, Egypt, the Saudis, and other peaceful Arabic nations. It will be far from perfect, of course, but for the first time in any of our lifetimes, there is strong reason to be optimistic about
the Middle East. And the reason is because of two men, both of whom I have admired and proudly stood up for for many years in the face of unrelenting smears and hatred from the chattering classes and e even from the fake conservatives of the West. Those two men are,
of course, Donald J. Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu. I've had the privilege of meeting and talking to Benjamin Netanyahu, and I've had the privilege of being one of Donald Trump's very first and certainly his most consistent Australian media supporter since twenty fifteen, even before he was a candidate for the White House. All those idiots who have been repeatedly telling you that Trump is an embarrassment of buffoon, a shambles, he's incoherent, he's crazy, he's out of control, have only
embarrassed yourselves. I've always said, judge Trump on his results, not on how he gets there. The end of the Iranian theocratic regime, which is now a potential and hopefully is now imminent, is as significant as Imperial Japan's surrender, and as extraordinary as the fall of the Berlin Wall. Trump, I've always maintained, will be remembered in the same league as Thatcher and Reagan, and there's every chance he may
even eclipse both of them. Joining us now is John heindereker as he does from the States, John, what an afternoon they're in America. Now you're right here at the pivotal moments in history. Donald Trump has announced on truth Social that the American military might has been used against
three Iranian nuclear plants, Fordoh, Natans, and Isfan. This suggests, but doesn't state, that he used those bunker busting bombs, certainly on the case of Fordo, though he has not said that, but he has said this is peace through strength. John Heinderaker critical moments in American and world history. Your thoughts, well.
Rower, It sure is breaking news. I learned about it watching you here five minutes ago.
So this is after this is how it happens. Yeah, it's great. Let me make a couple of quick points.
Number one, the American people are behind Donald Trump on this issue. You look at the polls, seventy five eighty percent of Americans understand the danger from Iran, understand that Iran must not obtain nuclear weapons. And we already have seen majority support for American military action in Iran, even when it wasn't at that time seriously on the table.
And Trump's megabase is.
Even more concerned about Iran, even more supportive of these actions than the American public generally. And what that means is that Donald Trump is playing a very very strong hand in terms of domestic support. Now, James said something that I want to pick up on, and that is that, as far as America is concerned, the Mulas have had this coming for a very long time. They have never really paid a price for their horrible nineteen seventy nine
attack on the American embassy in Tehran. They held more than one hundred Americans hostage for over a year. That was a terrible, terrible crisis. And after that they contributed to killing many American servicemen in Iraq.
And we have owed.
These mullas, you know, for a long time, and I'm glad to see that Donald Trump is finally repaying that debt. And I think the real question now is are we going to see regime change, because that is what we need. We cannot slightly hear, stay in place. We cannot allow them to get back to work reconstituting Hamas and Hezbola and wait five years and then get back to work on the nuclear weaponry.
These Mullas have got to go.
James.
Now, just for some more breaking news here, the President has retweeted on his true social site, an open source intelligence site that says the three words FODOH is gone. So that's what the White House is announcing there and Apparently the President is going to be announced making a speech and addressed to the nation a little bit later on.
So if that happens during this program, we'll look at it.
But suddenly, but John, I want to talk about this here because you know, this is you were saying before in the polls that we were seeing people were supportive of this, and people saw this as you know, a
good use of American force. What does this do now to that wing of the Republican Party or the MAGA movement, And that's not the entire Magna movement, that part of the Maga movement that has been entirely implacably opposed to using American force anywhere, you know, not just in the boots on the ground sense, but also just in terms of, as you suggested here, settling this very great score that America has with this tyrannical regime which I think has
been at war frankly essentially with the USNS nineteen seventy nine, and which was not properly dealt with in nineteen seventy nine, when the effeckless and incompetent Jimmy Carter allowed everything that happened to happen with the Embassy and with the Shaw and with the Revolution.
James.
What I would say there is that there are a full of high profile commentators on the right who are I don't know if they're isolationist or anti Israel. I'm not sure exactly what's going on, but who don't want America to really do anything in foreign policy.
They are a tiny, tiny minority.
They don't speak for any significant percentage of the Mega movement, and they don't speak for any significant percentage of the American public. The American people are going to be behind this effort, and certainly Trump's base overwhelmingly is going to be behind this effort return.
This is astonishing period we're in. And it comes as Donald Trump is nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. Pataks Dan has nominated him for brokering a peace steel between Pakistan and India. He's also just recently signed a treaty between helped mediate a treaty between Rwanda and the Congo. So tell me about his chances of winning a Nobel Peace Prize in twenty twenty six.
Well, he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accords in his first term, but that's not what the Nobel Committee is interested in from America. To win these Nobel prizes, you have to be anti America.
That's basically.
I'm looking for it. I don't think Trump stands a big chance. But ironically, Rita, you want to talk about peace. I think what we're seeing tonight, this is what brings about peace. You don't bring about peace by endless negotiations, pallets of money to bribe your bitter enemies. You bring about peace through strength. And Ronald Reagan knew that. Donald Trump knows that, and that's what we're seeing today.
He seems to understand the mindset of these regimes, whether he's talking to North Korea, whether he's talking to the Iranian regime, even negotiating with the Chinese, Whilst many in the West of god a fairly naive idea, particularly when dealing in the Middle East with I think that can sort of hug these is mystications into behaving better when Donald Trump understands you get peace through strength.
Reader, I don't know why that is so hard for so many people to figure out.
Honestly.
Honestly, you look at world history and you see it over and over and over again.
Weakness invites aggression. It is strength ters aggression. It is strength.
It really can bring about peace, and we've seen it over and over. We certainly didn't see it during the Joe Biden administration. We didn't see it under Barack Obama. But we're seeing it now in the Trump administration.
And I think John on that I just make the point of people have just tuned in. This is an absolutely historic moment. Outsiders was live on the morning that Donald Trump was assassinated an attempted assassination, when the bullet flicked his ear, attempted assassination, and we were live that morning. We said then and Spectator Australia ran a cover showing that it seemed felt like the hand of God and
flicked that bullet out of his way. Well, this morning we're live and the result of that, the fact that Donald Trump survived that assassination attempt now means that people like Rita Panahi's family can now look forward to in Iran free of the evil theocratic regime of the Iatolas. That is what we're looking at. That is how big and important this morning is. This is huge, huge news around the world. John. I want to also ask you
about the ramifications of this because you mentioned peace through strength. Had, as I think James said earlier, had Donald Trump failed to live up to this, you'd have had China in bolden Russia more embolden. But suddenly America is now the dominant force on the planet, prepared to use its military superiority to fight evil. What other ramifications do you think China and Russia will be sitting there now a little bit more nervous than they were half an hour ago. Heinerrega, Yeah, Ron.
That's a great point.
Keep in mind that iron is supposedly this great ally of both both Russia and China. So an interesting question is going to be, well, Russia or China do anything about this?
And I think the answer is no. I think that, you know, I.
Think one thing that the nations of the world are going to learn as that being the ally of Russia or the ally of China doesn't.
Actually pay off that well. After all, we'll see, but at least that's my prediction, James.
You know, it's really ironic to be John here that you know, the Left, which spent so long saying, oh, Donald Trump's a puppet of Russia, is puffett putin You know that they aren't out there cheering in the streets right now, because of course, you know, it feels to me like the left here, I suspect is going to be all rather sort of well, they have a little bit of a case of the sands.
Why did he go and do this?
Iran was being attacked by plucking little Israel and all this sort of thing. Where does this leave the left here in America? Because you know, again, this may be one of these sort of eighty twenty issues we talk about instead, but instead of being like you know, boys
and girls locker rooms, it's huge global geopolitics. Does the left decide that it is going to say this was a terrible thing that Donald Trump did taking nuclear weapons out of the hands of a bunch of theocrats, or do they say, you know, we're actually gonna have to say this was a good thing in the world is a better place, and good on Donald Trump for standing up to the authoritarian ring reamsimes that he is supposedly so close.
I'll find a way to process. John Hinder, Right, James.
Gas, You're you're kidding, of course.
I mean what the Democrats I'm going to do is is sit back and hope for failure. They're going to hope that this somehow it turns out badly, and if it does, they'll pounce on Trump and they'll try to take political advantage. The thing you always have to keep in mind when you talk about military action is that the ultimate political ramifications depend on and how it turns out.
And so if we have a happy outcome here, if the will has flee and the Iranian people rise up, and maybe the Shah comes back, who knows, but we have a new and certainly better regime in Iran and we don't have a wider war. Some people talk about World War three. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But if it turns out well that, I think the Democrats are just left with nothing to say.
Absolutely, Jean Henderregert always great to chat to you, But what an extraordinary morning for us to be talking to you. Unbelievable moment in world history. Payload of bombs were dropped on three of Iran's nuclear sites. Photo The main one
is now gone. Now, spare a thought, I just say to everyone watching, spare a thought for Israel, For the people of Israel who for five decades have seen one of their neighbors, close neighbors, the evil regime in Iran on the short distance away threat to destroy Israel, death to Israel, death to America, on every bomb, the rantings and ravings of the Iya, tollers of the Mullas against the Israel entity, the Little Satan and the Great Satan.
Think of the fear and the horror and the terror that the people of Israel have had to sit through for these past five decades. Finally, Donald Trump and Benjaminettaya, who have delivered, in my opinion, freedom from the evil of the Iranian regime for the people of Israel. Crack open the bubbly this morning if you haven't already, because the people of Israel, the people of America, the people of the world should be cheering the actions of Donald
Trump and Benjaminettania Netanyahu. We'll take a short break back in a tick with lots more here on Outsiders.
Hello, you're watching Outsiders on a very historic morning with your hosts Rita, mostly peaceful Panahee and Rowan. Don't deport me, Dean, and I'm James Morrow here with a brand spanking new truth bomb, fresh off the assembly line, just moments after we've heard the news that Donald Trump has bombed three sites and I ran nuclear sites that Florida, Esfahan and somewhere else too which I can't realer the name right now.
But we are here.
Natas, so here we are ready to take on the sad and deluded people in America, across Australia and right around the world who just don't get it and don't get the importance of this moment. This would include, of course, the sad and deluded folks who don't seem to get the difference between let's say, democracies and dictatorships. Folks like well, this former Obama official who showed up on CNN this week and attempted to define tell us the true meaning of what authoritarianism really is.
And also this is not the first place authoritarian regimes have taken over. And when you look at what has happened in other countries where.
That has happened, they.
Use certain issues to actually try immigration as one, trans issues is another one. And what has this administration really focused on immigration?
Trans issues?
And they use it because they think it's an issue that they can get public opinion on them. But the way, but it's backfiring right now, I would say on this administration.
Yes, authoritarian regimes around the world since the start of history have used trans.
Issues as the way that they hold power. But I don't know.
I do think though, that she might have it all wrong, because all the authoritarian states that I grew up with, you know, Cuba, North Korea, East Germany, their immigration issue was about not letting people leave, not letting too many people in. But I digress. There's simply an awful lot of confusion going around about this sort of thing these days.
Picking up on the theme, ABSNBC contributed Rick Stengel, who, by the way, once upon a time wasn't actually distinguished journalists, but now seems to drink the kool aid, seems to have it all backwards again. About Iran, which you probably thought was a real authoritarian state right now, who wrongo? Says our Rick, who says that contrary to what we see on TV reading you might disagree with this, Iran is actually really European.
Iran is the most western nation in the whole Middle East. We have much more in common with them with a than a lot of countries that we do have alliances with.
Really Okay, well, maybe before the revolution, but maybe these days.
He meant European.
I guess in the sense that in Tehran, as in many neighborhoods, in certain European capitals, it is safer for women to go around wearing a headscarf. Who knows, But don't think Australia is immune.
To this sort of thinking.
Our own Foreign Minister Penny Wong has succumbed to this very same relativism, suggesting that the best result for the current Israel Iran war, which has just had a massive development, is not for Iran's malas to be defeated, but rather for the conflict to be dialed down so the mothers get to live another day while continuing to destabilize the entire Middle East through their terrorist proxies.
I emphasized there is an opportunity, given what President Trump has said, there's an opportunity over the next two weeks for de escalation, dialogue and diplomacy. That is what we want to see, and that is what the world wants to see. Everyone must come to the table and it must stop any nuclear weapons program.
Now.
I want everybody to stop and think about what the Foreign Minister was just saying there, because in fact, there was a little truth bomb buried in here, and that is that what Wang was saying. Wong, whom no less a figure than Shadow Attorney General Julian Liser has called out for her hostility to the West and Western values
and Israel. Well, what she's really calling for is for Iran to be handed a great, big win and a propaganda victory, because if the Mullahs are able to survive, even after what just happened at four tooh, if they are able to survive the current onslaught, they will declare this as a win, a win for the Mulas against the Little Satan i e. Israel and the Great Satan, namely the US of A. Meanwhile, just to go back to the US for a moment, let's have a little
fun if you want to talk about authoritarian as well. It seems that there is an authoritarian streak creeping into American politics, not from the right as we always hear about it, but rather from the left. Here's former President, the Old Community New organizer in chief, Barack Obama speaking just a couple of days ago about free speech the internet, and you guessed it, the need for more government regulation to make sure that US normal folk only get official approved facts.
Part of what we're going to have to do is to start experimenting with new forms of journalism, and how do we use social media in ways that reaffirm facts, separate facts from opinion. We want diversity of opinion, we don't want diversity of fact. By the way, it will require some government I believe some government regulatory constraints around some of these business models.
Ah, yes, have I heard that before?
You know, Old Brack is sounding a lot like just in ar Dur the COVID year in PM of New Zealand.
We will continue to be your single source of truth. We will provide information frequently.
Yes, the left loves the idea of facts being settled and not contested, so long as they come from the government as the single source of truth. That's never worked out badly before, has it? People na Anyway, it's all ironic because once upon a time the left used claims on free speech as a way to undermine the establishment. But now that they are the establishment, well, all bets
are off. Not to be fair, Barack Obama did go on later in the speech to say that this regulation, whatever for it took, would have to be consistent with the First Amendment. But it seems hard to know where to begin unpacking such a claim since America. In America, at least, they take a very expansive view of free speech, including speech that might hurt your feelings. So I don't
know how that works. But speaking of hurt feelings, and maybe this is actually the nub of it, Maybe it's actually Barack's wife's Michelle's free speech on the net that Barack Obama is really concerned about, given her increasingly frequent jibes at her husband, the ex First Lady. Well, not X in that sense, at least not yet. Here's Michelle, who don't forget, had two daughters with Barack, talking on her IMO podcast about whether or not she would have
liked to have had a son. And I tell you what, her husband, Barack might have found this a bit difficult listening.
You should have threw a boy in the mix. Would I'm so glad I didn't have a boy yet he would have been a Barack Obama amazing. No, I would have felt for him.
Yes, that's what every man wants to hear, that his wife would have hated having a son like him. To put it in another way, mister president, that's a hell of a truth bomb.
Fantastic James, And just to reiterate if you've just tuned in, Donald Trump is announced on Truth Social which is now crashed by the way, that the media platform is now crashed and it'll be back up soon, I'm sure. But Donald Trump has announced that we have completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran, including four Doh, Natams and Isfahan. All planes are now outside of Iranian airspace. A full payload of bombs was dropped
on the primary site four Doh. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American warriors. There is not another military, says Donald Trump, in the world that could have done this. Now is the time for peace. He stresses that in capital letters. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So Donald Trump will
be making announcement twelve pm. Obviously you follow everything that is happening right here on Sky News, here on Outsiders, and then carry on without with Sky News as you will hear more from Donald Trump and what has happened. This is monumental, This is huge. This We had all the naysays saying, oh Donald Trump with chicken out. He was a tacko, he was at Trump always chickens out. He gave them two weeks and said that's a maximum. He said, I might make up my mind at any moment.
I will know a second before I make up my mind when I'm going to pull the trigger. He's pulled the trigger. He's dropped a payload of bonds on three nuclear sites. This is unbelievable news for the people of Israel, for peace in the Middle East, for the people of America. What comes next? We were discussing that with James Marita earlier. James, where does this leave Where does this leave the Middle East? Where does this leave the world?
You know, it's really interesting. I think a flag before we were talking about this a bit. They're having a big old sook at the ABC. Just look at their website. Here, where's one the headlines on the ABC website right now? Israel is believed to have nuclear weapons?
Why is it? We're about Iran? No, are you surprised? Are you surprised the left? I mean that's just.
Derangement, yes, yes, But I'm looking at the Sydney Morning Herald a lot of Trump derangement there as well. Of course, the Australian media is in many ways worse than the worst of the US media when it comes to any reporting on Trump. It is pathetic and it does worry me because so many in this country that's all they consume, and they really do have sort of a warped idea of what's happening here. But where we're seeing history unfold.
I don't want to get ahead of myself and say this is going to be the end of the Iran's Islamus regime. It may not. It may hold on. It's held on through multiple massive uprisings in the past. It always just comes down brutally on any dissent domestically. And if there is uprisings, if there are marches, if there's opposition parties making moves, that could happen and they could hold on to power. But in whatever case, they won't have a nuclear capability, which is enormous, so that's a positive.
And if they're demoralized a little bit more than the regime, change is just becoming closer. And you know a lot of people say, well, the Uranian people have to stand up and throw these mullers out. It's not that easy. They have tried that over and over again. And the penalty if you are caught is death. It is not something where you can, like in Australia or the US, go and peacefully protest or even violently protest that not much happens to you. In Iran, you will be hanging
from Ukraine in the public square. So things are very different. But this will certainly, I think, embolden the Uranian people that have lived under this regime for forty six years, who saw their country go from being relatively modern and secular to being plunged into the Shariah law where you can get locked up for showing your hair, where you can be imprisoned for homosexuality, where you can be killed for blasphemy. So it's yeah, it is a critical juncture
in history. Donald Trump has had great deal to do with it in a positive manner, and yeah, we wait and see what happens next.
Absolutely well, I'm the optimist. I believe that not only the military value, but the symbolic value of destroying those three nuclear particularly for Order, which was supposedly impregnable Americans. We don't know yet if it was which sort of bombs were dropped. It was a paler the bombs dropped on three nuclear sites, including border Sophobia is now gone is what we hear from truth Set, and I.
Can just give a bit of an update on this here. They're saying that this happened around two thirty am I ran time. That's what Iran Iranian officials are saying anonymously to the press. And also it is believed that they were B two, a stealth barbers that came and they came possibly from Diego Garcia, and that the movement of B two's to Guam was part of a distraction and a fake.
And that's interesting as well because Diego Garcia was Britain recently handed that over the Chagos Islands and part of the deal with Britain would have to idiotic movement with Britain would have to tick off on it. So that would suggest I don't know if this is the case or not that there was a tick there. Who knows. We shall find out lots more that you will find
out here on Sky News. Stay tuned. Obviously, we're going to take a short break and when we're going to come back, we're going to lighten things a little bit. Great day today, amazing day. We're going to have a little bit of the wally of the week, just to bring this back down again within a tick. Fantastic. Well, big news today that we've just learned from true social Donald Trump three. A payload of bombs has been dropped on three Iranian nuclear sites. Who've been discussing what that
all means. But we're going to take a little break here, have a bit of fun now with a segment we call Where's Wally or Brother of the week. There's our Wholly of the week. Let's go to that.
You know what, que why not only Wally of the week segment we have? Because I'm not happy with the name.
And I'm well, if it is not heavy, wait.
Till next week and see what this segment is called. It may still be Wall of the week, but I'm going to be fighting, like.
Okay, Well, I like the alliteration, particularly when it goes to my nomination. Who's Wong Wong for Wally of the week. I think we should start a movement Wong for Wally of the week. James played you the grab earlier, but I want to play it to you again. This is Penny Wong making a fool of herself, playing to trying to be trying to be kind of the peacemaker. If you like between Iran and Israel earlier in the week, and she was saying, oh, let's deescalate. You know, when
she gets an anxious, anxious look on her face. Here we go Strop and Pennywong. That was the financial Pennywong urges israel counterpart to return to diplomacy, that sort of thing we saw it earlier. But basically she's calling for de escalation. So in the light of she's through strength, she's my way.
The other week, President Donald Trump, leader of the free world, it's.
No time to them, did not take her concerns on board.
Can you imagine? I mean, even the Iranian regime would have little time for pennies musings on anything. So why she even would antagonize our allies in America and Israel by mouthing off about this, You're achieving nothing other than weakening Australia's position with our biggest So if you have to talk about it in the party room, you.
Know what, I guarantee she's after that plush you and job next time Chris bow and I'll be doing his cop twenty six or what. But anyway, who else has got a Walley of the Week. There must be other it's not just any wrong.
Sure, here's a Tony, but that makes Tony Burke the Burke of the week because or the Wally of the week now growing up the name who knows? Because here we are the situation where well, hi, they're trying to stop free speech and people from speaking to Australians and they don't understand how free speech work.
Well, let me just just to rub it in for Tony butk So, Tony Burke wanted to stop you hearing Hillel Fold speak here in Australia. So I'm going to read a little bit, just a tiny bit of what he had to say. Ooh, so inflammatory have a listen. This is Hillel Fold speaking this week. The Jewish people, he said, have been nothing but a source of light in this world, and it's time we own that light. He said. It's time we stopped apologizing and that should
be our narrative or our light. Too many people, too many Jews, are still apologizing. We need to own it and that should be our narrative. So that was part of what he said. Oh, how dare we hear that?
I've heard those I've been radicalized. Now I've been radicalized. I don't know how I'm going to be coping with this. I'll lead to into some sort of de radicalization program exactly to the.
Australia, because here we are the situation where well hithery're trying to stop free speech and people from speaking to Australians and they don't understand how free speech worked.
Well, let me just just to rub it in for Tony Bok. So, Tony Burk wanted to stop you hearing Hillel Fold speak here in Australia. So I'm going to read a little bit, just a tiny bit of what he had to say. Oh, so inflammatory, have a listen. This is Hillel Fold speaking this week. The Jewish people, he said, have been nothing but a source of light in this world, and it's time we own that light. He said. It's time we stopped apologizing and that should
be our narrative or our lights. Too many people, too many Jews, are still apologizing. We need to own it and that should be our narrative. So that was part of what you said. Oh how dare we hear that?
I've heard those I've been radicalized. Now I've been radicalized. I don't know how I'm going to be coping with this, I'll lead to into some sort of de radicalization program exactly now to the Australian public. Now that's that's been the assessment.
It's a good contender there, but read to no doubt has a contender for whatever of the week theme you've started.
The theme we've got. You know, this is a Federal Labor Party sort of nomination week. So I've got to go straight to the top and let's hear from the Prime minister.
Oh goody, No, I'm a labor prime Minister and I support penalty rights. I'm a labor prime Minister and I support real wages increasing. I'm a labor prime Minister, and I support an economy that works for people, not people working for an economy we support work is getting a fair crack for the contribution.
I'm a labor prime Minister and I get snubbed by the Leader of the free world because I'm a clown and I'm a labor prime minister who told Australians We're going to see our energy prices drop whilst they're skyrocketing. I mean, I could go on the show's only so long, really, and when I watch that and I see the fact that he won in a landslide, and it's not surprising you want in a landslide when you have absolutely no opposition. It's an indictment on the Liberal Party.
They had so.
Much material to work with at that last election, and they declined at all because they didn't want to get the backlash. They declined to walk away from that zero. They declined to pick a fight on important issues of values. That decline to pick a fight even really on sound economic policy. Their spending promises were crazy. So when you see that, look at the Liberals as well. Don't just be mad at Labor, I be mad at the opposition that isn't really an opposition right now.
Yeah, exactly. And that line James out to I don't want people to work for the economy. The economy works for view or whatever it is, whatever nonsense. I mean, seriously, that guy put that out. We chose like this is important though, it's really important.
I want to pick up on that there because that whole line about you know, the economy works for us, we don't work for the economy, well, okay, yeah, sure, I think actually everybody would agree with that. I mean, but what he is there's another half of that is that the government exists for us. We don't work for
the government. Now, that is the line that the opposition should be picking up on, exactly what Prime Minister Robin Ezy said there, because this is the philosophical difference, the great philosophical difference between Labor and the liberals should be. And I know the liberals, you're trying to figure out what you stand for.
This is it.
We don't work for the government. The government works for us and Albanisi and Labor's view is entirely the other way around, that we work for the government and then the government hands us back good ease and bits and Bob's if we do what they say how they say.
It beautifully put, James, beautifully put. And you're right. So, I mean, but what you're asking, James is that the opposition stands in opposition to the government.
What we have a debate that's devisive, but then might not like opposing views, might not like us, and the media who hate us might actually hold us. I mean, come on, it is so weak and I can only hope I can only hope that having the thumping losses they've had since they've embraced it zero for example, that they see the light. But I'm not hopeful because they seem to be coming up with a conclusion maybe we should be even more like labor. Maybe they will get us.
Look, really, the two power I said this.
I wrote this on election note as the votes were coming in and people have been saying no, no, no, this is you know, you're being able dramatic. I said, this is an existential crisis for the Liberal Party and I haven't seen anything that they have done since the election to make me think otherwise.
Here, yes, we have to choose. We've got to choose of the week. Now we're doing for my nomination.
He is the leader of the country.
Yeah, the week by a show of hands, by a show of hands. Well done, and it may.
Be the only winner, because next week it could be a different thing.
You never know. I think it'll be a consistent on this particular segment. Before we finish, I just wanted to remind all of you at home that the sky news dot Com got Au subscription is just five bucks a month and it's a great way to support sky News if you appreciate what we do. Plus, it gives you access to four news channels and all of our shows and documentaries on the best news app you can get in Australia. Well, huge day to day through a payload
of bombs on three nuclear plants in Iran. That's what we've been calling for here on Outsiders. That's why you watch Outsiders. It happened. Maybe Donald Trump timed it for our show. Who knows. We'll see you next week at nine am. Have a great week.
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