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Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders, the show that believes in the Donald Trump doctrine of speaking plane common sense, and it looks like it's catching on. Here's former Trump hater Bill Maher, who appears to be finally seeing the light. You know.
I mean, they asked him a question today and I'm sure if you're of the type of person who just always hates the one team and loves what the other one does, they asked them a question about the crash and they said, will you visit the crash site? Now, every other politician would go, of course, it was a tragedy, and he went, it's the water.
What do you want me to do?
Swim there?
And I was like, exactly, thank You're exactly right.
It's a stupid question, and you've got justice answering with as own.
Fantastic. It will be interesting to see whether or not, as Trump has postulated, di diversity and inclusion hiring practices played any role in that ghastly airline tragedy. We'll be chatting to Christian Witten later in the show about that and much more, but in the meantime, let's grab the latest outsiders news well, Rita and James. I was delighted to hear during the week that our new Elon Musk
have very owned just center price. Who is going to be in the next Stutton government in charge of sorting out government efficiency among other things. Jacinta has already said, if we want to get more efficient, let's stop funding all the welcomed countries here here Rita.
Oh, absolutely, And I don't think this is just an efficiency issue. If it saves us a cent, fantastic, but I don't care if we're making money out of this. It is highly divisive, It is unnecessary. It is just political grand stating that serves a very small minority of activists and it has no place in modern Australia. We had a vote we rejected racial division.
We don't want it.
In our constitution and we certainly don't want it at the top of every meeting, every sporting event, every event that we go to. At some events, every single speaker regurgitates these lines. And I would love for people to actually ask people who say these lines to explain what you mean by that, just to take.
It a second while they're explaining, while they're explaining hand over their keys to their property and their title deeds so that I can take it and hand it to the local Aboriginal tribe. If you believe in welcome to Country, that's what you are promulgating. So give us the keys, give us the title deed, and we'll take it. We'll give it to someone else, because otherwise you are a hypocrites.
Well that's right, Rowan, and I mean hypocrisy on the left. I will never have imagined that you know all of these people. It's just like with the refugee issue. How many refugees are they putting up in their spare bedrooms and bossmen. But you know, back to the issue of the welcome to country. Anybody who spends any time around
corporate Australia knows that these things are absolutely everywhere. There are some asx one hundred corporations where every meeting has to start off with an acknowledgement, like some sort of saying of grace before a meal. It is a substitute religion of the left, just like ecology is, and it is done with a very sinister I think Moudevid mind, I mean Rena. You said, it's just sort of for the activist and so on. But there's a real sinister thing I think about that, and that is undermining the
legitimacy of post settlement Australia. And it's about you know, telling everybody, telling your kids, telling everybody that you know, Australia as a cohesive nation, one people under one flag on one continent, here together for one future, that that is somehow illegitimate, and in fact that everything that has happened since it is somehow illegitimate it needs to be resettled.
And at that point it becomes actually quite revolutionary because what the left wants to do is change things that then suddenly they're in charge and world dancing to their tune. I think I'm so glad that they're rejecting it. But I will say to Peter Dutton, there is, you know, so much more opportunity to go further with this culture stuff.
I'm going to just chump in there, James, because yes, Rita is correct that the cultural side is really important. But I think this the genius of this idea is that it's the financial side as well, because no one knows better than this center price. There are hundreds of millions of dollars that are wasted by Australian taxpairs every year on all these corporations. There's hundreds of them. We've listened them before on this show, you know, the Niia, this,
that or whatever. All during the voice there they were with bucket loads of money, bucket loads of taxpays money, none of which ever ends up in the pockets of helping the kids get to school or get a job that is needed, but all goes to activists and all these huge corporations and all the rest of it. It is a financial issue as well as a cultural issue, and naturally genius of this idea. Let's also hilariously Albanizia.
Mark Butler, the Health Minister, has come up with a wait for it, rita, a bit of a review into aspects of gender affirming health care in this country. Gender affirming is an oxymoron, because you're telling care is an oxymoron.
Resa, Well, yes, they are.
Going to be reviewing it for minors for under eighteens, long overdue. But I do wonder how serious they are about this examination, how thorough it's going to be, how devoid of activist agendas it's going to be. Because Butler's also come out and how to go at Queensland. Queensland is pausing these sorts of dangerous, irreversible treatments for minors,
and he thinks that's not a good move. So that tells you where the mindset is to begin with any sort of review, any sort of examination is welcome.
Well it is.
But when you're saying gender affirming, you have already loaded the dice. You're already saying that this stuff is about giving people their true gender, where it's not. It's giving them a fake gender. That is the whole point of the arguments.
Well, I think more to the point too. I think what we're going to see here, this is the way that they you know, they sense that the wind has shifted around the world, shifted in the US, in the UK, after the Taoistock Review, all of these things, and they're going to try and do the same thing they've done with other things like nuclear and say, oh, well, you know this is something that works or it doesn't work everywhere else in the world, but here in Australia the
rules are different. And I suspect that what this is going to turn out to be, like so many are but and easy things it's going to be like the review you have when you're not having review.
Yah.
Well, this is where Australia is an outline and this isn't some minor thing. We're going to have children who are going to have irreversible treatments performed on them, who are going to be scarred for life, have medical interventions for life. And it is an absolute outrage. I think we're going to see class action lawsuits. I think those
people deserve to have their day in court. They have been led astray by the medical fraternity, who have been so hijacked by the activist class when it comes to this particular area. And I think the reckoning is going to be ugly in this country because we've closed our eyes. We've seen Scandinavia do a U turn, we've seen the UK, much of the US, and here in Australia we pretend that none of that has happened. We've just gone ahead as if this is the best thing you can do
for confused kids. One more bit of good news before you move on. The nature positive.
Laws seem to be dead and buried.
Another little.
Strain that has become a nightmare because if it's actually implemented it would completely throttle any sort of development and make what is already an excessive amount of red, green and black tape even worse.
But let's keep in mind though, that nature positive legislation. Now you have to look at that falling over simply through the prism of the rivalry between Anthony Albanizi and Tanya ple resec. And so you know, if Athnys is kiboshing those nature positive laws, he's doing that not because he has had some road to Damascus conversions. Oh hey, you know, maybe all of this stuff to destroy the economy in the name of you know, the snail darter or whatever the thing is going to be, isn't such
a good idea. It's entirely about noveling his rival for power in the party room Tanya pleer sc.
So yeah, Well, the other thing I would say about it, Reacher as well, is that the Nature Positive plan is one hundred percent United Nation's Agenda twenty thirty. So we've signed up to this garbage. It'll rear its head in some other form. And this is why we have to get rid of net zero, we have to pull out of Paris, we have to do all of this stuff because nature positive is simply taken almost an erroneoid copy from the United Nations insidious Agenda twenty thirty, which is
causing catastrophic results to farming around the world. We're seeing in Britain, for example, we'll chat to Matt Goodwin about this. In the second ten percent of that beautiful English farmland is now being pushed aside by Ed Milliband for net zero garbage. It's unbelievable, the beautiful English countryside contry.
Imagine solar farms in a country where that belly get any sun and now so ugly. They're so ugly in a big country like Australia when you fly over these solar farms. But to do it to the UK, it's criminal, It's criminal, and this is Agenda twenty thirty.
And folks, we're going to talk a lot more about this in coming months because Agenda twenty thirty is terrifying and we are now saying the Trump site view of the world, or the United Nations view of the world countries we need to pull out of the UN as well. That's a different topic. Let's talk about alban Easy and the ghastly anti Semitic the Caravan have no idea, no idea.
He was just oblivious.
The Prime Minister is somehow sitting in the lodge oblivious to major terror attacks being planned in his own city.
What is going on chain.
Well, i'll tell you what. I spoke to Tony Abbott on Friday, the Foreign Prime Minister, and we talked about this in the Daily Telegraph yesterday. You know, he made the very good point that either you know, he doesn't know because he's simply not aware and he's not plugged into his security, or you know, the security agencies didn't brief him because they didn't think that he dnew anything about it, essentially, you know. I mean, the thing is here is that this has shown just how waterless this
government is when it comes to national security. And it has been on this issue since October seventh. You know, they delayed and delayed late having a National Secuity Committee meeting, They delayed and lay doing all sorts of things that you would have done, and we have seen this out of control run of anti Semitism and it has culminated.
The most recent thing is this shocking discovery of a caravan with mining explosives in in allegedly in a dural which is the sort of rural suburban area of New South Wales outside Sydney. And you know, we don't know anything about what these links are to these other groups. There's all sorts of talk the police have that foreign actors may be paying for some of this stuff to be done here in Australia. I think this is absolutely terrifying. If that is the case, you know, then where are
the Foreign Minister, Where is the Homeland Security minister? Where are all of the Home affairs ministers? Where all the people who are supposed to be keeping us safe from this sort of important hate going, Well, they're not on the job. You know. You've got Pennywong off of the UN voting against Israel and telling Israel how bad they are at every turn, giving sucker to people in this country who have the same views and much more extreme ones.
And then you've got a security as to which is not connected now to the Prime Minister, and the whole thing just seems really rudderless.
And meanwhile in the US you've got the Trump administration who has now gone in and is deporting foreign nationals who are causing trouble on college campuses.
So they've whether they're.
From China, whether they're from the Middle East, wherever they are. If they're a foreign national and they are causing this unrest in college campuses, they're.
Out and why aren't we doing that? Why why aren't we doing that there? And you're right, they've unveiled these characters and yes, they're they're they're we're there, they're foreigners living in the in the separate should we do we have? You know, we saw so many anti Semitic demonstrations at our universities which are riddled with antisemitism. Anyway, stop funding the universities and kick out the individuals responsible. It's not
that hard. And we need a Dutton government to come in and we need them to commit to those sorts of policies.
Well when isn't ironic though? You know, we have this government, we have this labor government, and they seem very very keen on trying to censor what Australians say and do, especially if it runs against the policy of the government or if it's somehow judged a bit too far right. But at the same time, people who come here from overseas and go and get sponstory universes and things like that and then decide they want to go protest in favor of humas well, you know that's okay. We're not
going to make a big deal about that. It's very on.
They become very quickly free speech. That's what I'm absolution is when it comes to the far left, then free speech is as a something to defend to the death.
And I'm all for free speech.
I'm not saying that it should be in any way curtailed. But when you cross the line into criminal damage, into violence, into acts that are.
Illegal, and that's no.
Longer free speech.
And there are lines, and those lines have been crossed repeatedly.
And this is the big furfy that the left will throw up is that they're bringing in hate speech laws. Hate speech, Oh, this is going to do it. Know, what we need is proper law enforcement laws. Existing laws are there to combat terrorism, domestic terrorism, those sorts of activities. We don't need to curtail the rights of every day Australians to speak online or on Twitter or anything else.
And what concerns me Reta and James is that we're going to have the whole issue bundled off into oh, these new set of hate speech laws, and there'll be anti Semitism and Islamophobia, and they'll be all of this stuff.
It'll just be fewer rights for the average citizens, whereas they refuse to confront the single most self evident issue that much of the anti Semitism, as well as stemming from the hard left, is coming from certain communities within the western areas of our large cities, and those communities have fostered let's be bought within their cultural let's be blot about this.
This albin Ezy government while it's trying to talk all a good game about, you know, cracking down on hate speech and you know there's no place for hate in this country, brought in three thousand tourist visas to people from Gaza. Now, I mean, I'm sorry, I just don't see how you're going to wind up properly vetting, as they say, these folks so that they don't actually have
support for Harbas or any other attitudes. And I just think, you know, this is this is the sort of thing that we'll end in tragedy.
Well, let's be on sorry, let's just be honest. If you look at the footage of the hostages being released and these obscene situations, you have one lone Jewish girl with thousands literally of Ghazan men kind of crushing around, yelling, carrying on, Absolutely terrifying. How can you possibly vet individuals from that corner of the earth when you see how out of control is the popularity for a mass style activity.
Now, what if Egypt isn't taking any if Jordan isn't taking any If you've got countries throughout the Middle East saying no, thank you, why we again the out Why is Australia putting its hands up, whether it's trans madness, whether it's refugees from moresylum seekers, tourist visas from Gaza. Why are we continuously the outlier? What does the al but easy government know that the rest.
Of the world doesn't know.
I mean, here's the point. You know, a country, a sovereign country, has a right to decide who comes to the country. John Howard said that very articularly the left loss in their mind, you know, putting aside the issue of Gaza and the people coming from Gaza. You know, the fact is migration is going to be the big sleeper issue. I think in this coming election. It's driving everything, not just social cohesion, rents, housing, everything well.
Going on, Trump like every week is just fantastic under the new Trump regime. The thing he's not mucking around.
Week, every day, every.
Day is like Christmas.
I mean, when we're going to just stop feeling all giddy and happy, when's this.
Going to it's going to carry on because.
My cheeks are hurting from all the smiling.
But the reality is the job is so big that needs to be done, and he's not mucking around. So, for example, he said, by five them on Friday, all government workers had to remove pronouns from their social media counts.
Yes, well so Transport Secretary Pete Bodhajetge. Apparently even he's gone so far as to take the pronouns off of his Twitter account. So, I mean, it just shows as the former transport secretary, the probably the most incompetent transport secretary the United States has ever had. Well he's got rid of it, I mean, and it's just always been such a joke. It's such a virtue signal. Why do you need to tell people what your pronouns are? If you tell me your pronouns are she or whatever, I'm
never going to call you she. It's just a failure of grab.
The comedy shows in the future will look back on this period and absolutely mock our generation.
Well that's like that.
We'll just go what a bunch of fools these people were back in the two thousand and whatever we're called the tens or whatever twenties. The other thing that Donald Trump is somebody's done many, many things. But the other thing he's done. She's removed all climate change references from the US Department of Agriculture. It's out. Climate change is out. Take it all off the websites, it's all gone. And the pointier reta is that with both those things, he's
tackled the symbols. So by attacking the symbolisms that the left of the deer to, then you start the process of dismantling the entire cultish behavior and get rid of climate change from the DA the Department of Agriculture. Fantastic. This is saying the complete opposite to the UN and twenty thirty and what we're doing in this country, which is attacking in the name of climate change our agriculture.
Well, we're going to be talking to Peter Kredlin a little bit later, and I'm really interested in what she has to say, because she's sat down for a lengthy interview with Peter Dutton. Yes, because why is the Coalition clinging on to this net zero insanity? Why would that go to another election completely hamstringing themselves essentially by signing up to the same policies that Labor and the Greens Adhere two, we should be calling it out, saying enough,
we're not doing it. We're prioritizing reliability, we're prioritizing cost, and we are going to have the cheapest energy anywhere in the world because we're blessed with the most natural resources anywhere in the world.
And no longer are.
Our citizens, our businesses.
Going to pay a massive price for this climate change and at zero lutinacy. But no, apparently the Coalition and Labor are on the same page.
Peter about that shortly when she comes on to chat about that and her chat to Peter Dutton. But let me just say, rounding it off, James, that we were talking about just center price getting in there. For government efficiency, the single most efficient thing a government could do would be to pull out of Paris. That opens up opens up industry, It opens up mining, it opens up agriculture, it opens up manufacturing. That is the absolute break on
Australian productivity and Australian prosperity. So if you want to if you want to give just enter price a go a fair crack at actually making this country efficient, you have to pull out of Paris. There is no choice. And the Dutton government either tells us that now or the day they get into the lodge, it will hit them like a brick that they've got to pull out of Paris. So be honest with us upfront and say we're pulling out of Paris because we will have to. There is no choice. Jam.
Well, the point is too, is that the rest of the world is already going down the exactly, it's not just governments a soul so banks around the world. So we're getting out of these agreements that would have held us hostage to what we were allowed to invest in and blown to and what we're not allowed to invest in.
And here's the thing. If we don't get out of Paris and we don't go along with to the world of this, Australia is going to be such a poorer nation relative to the rest of the world in five years and ten years, in twenty years, you know, the United States is going at breakneck speed here on this sort of thing, and we have on hand. No, that's right, rowand we're going to be you know, we're not going to like if we keep going on this. You know,
the left says leaves. Oh, well, you know we're going to have the cheapest energy and it's all going to be renewable. Well by the time you ever get to that, which you won't. But even if you did it the wildest assumptions, there would be no manufacturing left in this country. So we would be doing nothing in terms of actually creating any sort of value add product that makes us rich.
I mean, you put your finger on the point there. The US is creating a pro business environment by lashing corporate taxes. Trump is going to incentivize investment like never before. Drill, baby, drill, So manufacturers, whether they're in that industry or else, are going to go there. We are competing with the US.
And we can compete. We're the only nation on the planet that can compete and draw investment into this country mining. We've got the great resources. Anyway, talk more about this later after the break. Rita's Reality Check and Matt Goodwin from the UK in a tick.
Welcome back.
You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan Dean, James Morrow, and I'm Rita Patty here. You may have seen me on such programs as The Rita Patty Show Monday to Thursday's eleven and Left Is Losing It Fridays at nine.
And right now we're going to take a look at.
The top five Lefties Losing it moments of the week.
Let's start with the stage full of delusional losers.
Competing to be the next chair of the Democratic National Committee. Let's see if they can figure out why Kamala lost so badly despite outspending Trump three to one and enjoying the support of Hollywood, the entire celebrity and activist class.
I have a show of hands, how many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's defeat?
Okay, so that's good.
You are passed.
Yes, yes, your pass for being delusional dim wits. Next up, we saw the demise of Jim Acosta, one of the worst of the fake news machinery, a man who's trumped arrangement syndrome. Well, having reduced to a blabbering idiot on a regular basis, don't.
Give into the lies, don't give into the fear. Hold on to the truth and a hope. Even if you have to get out your phone, record that message. I will not give into the lies. I will not give into the fear.
On your social media, yes, please do that.
That's where I get all my lefties, loser get content from when idiots record themselves and then post it on social media. It's a winning, winning formula. As for not giving into the lies, Jimmy, you pushed every lie, every anti Trump hoax. There was his old Acosta pushing the fine People hoax and two fresh ones during the election campaign, the Least Chiney and the blood bath hoaxes.
An alarming choice for a man who has often struggled to unequivocally denounce white supremacists who recalled these moments.
But you also had people that were.
Very fine people on both sides.
Those words, those words have power, they have meaning. And when Donald Trump speaks, the world listens. Neo Nazis and white supremacists certainly listen. So why can't he denounce them? Why can't he reject their support?
And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and the White national because they should be condemned totally.
What's your response to Donald Trump saying she should be fired, that Liz Cheney should be fired upon he keeps speaking in these very extreme terms about the potential dangerous to the country if he doesn't win in November.
He's used words like blood.
Bath, goodbye, and good riddance, Jimmy. Now to another member of the media who got his marching orders this week, NBC's Chuck Todd. This is the man who rails against so called misinformation.
It keeps him up at night.
But he told his ever diminishing audience that the whole Hunter by the Laptop saga was discredited Russian propaganda.
He is this week's number three.
Instead of Roger Stone and Wiki Lenks, it's Rudy Giuliani and some computer guy in Delaware. So this didn't work, so he'll try another planted story or another you know, Russian you some other discredited Russian propaganda. And for those of you spreading this information, shame on you. Shame on you. I don't know how some of you sleep at night. We're doing this for a living on television.
Oh we'll miss you and your lies.
Todd now coming in at number two of lefties losing it for the wig is the Democrats Hakem Jeffries, who's calling for the left to fight Trump, not just legislatively, legislatively that's a big word, but.
Also in the streets.
He wants them to fight Trump in the streets. It all sounds a bit insurrectiony to me.
We are going to fight it.
Legislatively, we're going to fight it in the courts, We're going to fight it in the streets.
But the clear number one of left is losing it is singer and actress Lena Gomez for this unintentionally hilarious all this enjoy I just want to.
See them till story.
On May people that are getting attacked, the children.
I'm so sorry.
I wished she could do something that you care.
I don't know what to do.
I'll try everything over.
We didn't see her crying as Biden's border crisis saw children drowning, cross crossing rivers to get to America, where children were trafficked in untold numbers. She didn't cry for the women murdered by illegal immigrants, but she filmed herself crying, and despite saying she'd do everything she could for those being deported.
You know what she actually did.
She deleted that video after her own fans trolled her for being a moron. But we must thanks Selena for giving birth to so many funny memes and skits just this week, including this one from Tyler Fisher yays, I'm sorry hoop time.
Innocent, rap person murder and criminals, drugs reeling.
Rounded up and just in this country.
Like their topics, I'm starting.
One guy I know the only rip people.
Well, somebody who is not shedding any lefty but he is a very happy man. Indeed is our very own Matt Goodwin, author and academic over there in London. Matt, great to see you, big smile on your face, as we are delighted to report that Reform is now the leading now ahead of the Tories. Tell us all about it. The polls have reformed, or certain polls have Reform positioned very comfortably ahead of all the other parties.
Tell us about it, Matt. Great to see you, Yeah, great to see you. Well, what we're seeing here in Britain is a political revolution. For the first time in British political history, Reform is now ahead of the Tories in every single major opinion poll. It's currently forecast to get close to two hundred seats at the next general election.
We're seeing something that we haven't really seen in this country since the rise of the Labor Party in the early twentieth century when Labor emerged to replace the Liberals. And I can tell you I was at a reform conference today in the northeast of England, in the working class area of County Durham. Twelve hundred people in the room,
energy through the roof. Everybody is now, I think, believing that they're not only going to take down the Tories, but they're going to take down the Labor government as well. So there's something special is happening on these islands.
Well, let's look today in London. There's been a big march. It's basically a pro Tommy Robinson march, I believe, but basically it does show the point that people are fed up with excessive immigration and so on. There are some pictures coming out of London which are quite amazing. No violence, no agro, lots of happy, smiling people. Am I reading that correctly?
Matt Well?
I think in my mind these are two very distinct, very different movements in British politics, I think for people focused on bringing about real world change through the ballot box, you know, really pushing back against mass uncontrolled immigration, getting a political system that speaks up for the forgotten majority, fixing our borders, that can only be done through the
ballot box. So I think, you know, street demonstrations and protests certainly have their place in any democracy, but fundamentally this is about changing who governs Number ten Downing Street in the House.
Of Commons, and.
Reform is really now establishing itself as the only alternative to what we would call the Unit Party left and right, who offer identical policies on all of these big issues.
James Matt, I'm really curious too about how much the Trump effect has had to do with what's happening in UK politics right now. We're seeing some of it happen in the Australia. But I noticed today, and that's a small thing but also a big thing. Sadi Khan, the Mayor of London, has apparently taken his pronouns out of his Twitter bio, and I feel like there's suddenly a realization that all of the old vogue stuff, well, that
doesn't fly anymore. And on the left. Now they have to drop this virtue singling if they have any hope of political survival.
What's your take, Well, I'd agree with much of what you say. I mean, I was in Washington for the inauguration. I was at Nigel Farag's party overlooking the White House a couple of days before the inauguration that was packed with pretty much every major player in British politics, accept anybody within the labor government. I mean, it was a real symbol in that it reflected I think Nigel Faraj's influence as a bridge between America and Britain, but nobody
from the labor government. I think fundamentally, what we're seeing is a change in the zeitgeist, in the spirit of the age and the dominant culture in Western anglosphere nations. We're beginning to I think the elite class are beginning to understand, finally, fifteen years after they impose it on the rest of us, that these kind of radically progressive, woke beliefs are really only shared by ten to fifteen
percent of these populations. And if they carry on down this road, as we've seen with the Democrats, as we've seen with many center left parties, across Europe, they're going to end up in the electoral cul desat. And I think it's that realization that they've lost the working class, they've lost the small towns, they've lost the countryside. You know, they're really dependent on the cities and minority voters and you know, mad woke progressives. But that's not a durable
coalition for the next ten twenty years. Dare I say maybe some people within the elite class are finally coming to their senses.
Maybe maybe anonymous?
No, maybe, yeah.
Self interest is a powerful motivator. But what is the state of US UK relations right now? We've seen a number of senior labor ministers have made some unhinged, ugly comments about Old Trump in the past. We know he doesn't easily forgive and forget. What is the state of that relationship.
Well, on the surface, everybody will tell you that it's still a special relationship. But anybody who's met the key players will also be able to tell you that that's not the case. There is an enormous amount of skepticism
within Team Trump over Keir Starmer. The labor government. Sadik Khan Elon Musk has become a symbol of that, tweeting almost daily about how bad the labor government is, how terribly it's managed issues like the rate gangs, the Pakistani Muslim rate gangs, the clampdown on free speech, which remember, Americans, you know, and anybody else with common sense really doesn't like. And that's really riled the Americans. But there's also this
frustration in Washington, you know. On the one having, we have the most pro UK president you know, pretty much since Reagan, and at the same time, we have a labor government that's obsessed with getting back into bed with the European Union, declining a block in the global economy over a run with protectionism and economic stagnation, you know, left to right, riddled with political division, you know, so
there's a frustration in Washington. These guys are saying, look, let's do a deal, Let's do a big trade deal, let's get close, let's work on this relationship. We've got a labor government that kind of doesn't really know what to do with it. Doesn't want to say anything nice about Trump, doesn't want to embrace America. It's sort of paranoid of not alienating Brussels. But Brussels is you know, the Brussels is the past. Trump, I think is the future.
That is the political realignment that the West and the anglosphere need to pursue.
Absolutely well, Matt, you'll be pleased to know that last time Nigel Farage was in Australia, he sat here at this desk in this studio and I predicted confidently he would be a future Prime Minister of Britain.
Let me just say well, I left him a couple of hours ago. He was in the pub having a pint.
Absolutely fantastic. Well, I know you'll be rushing off to join him, I hope, But can you explain to me this idiocy about a tenth of England's farmland is going to be rewilded to meet climate targets. This is lunacy, beautiful English countryside of the most beautiful countryside in the world, that lunatic, ed Milliband and labor are handing ten percent of it over to solar farms and rewilding weeds and all this eco garbage.
Matt, Well, that's exactly what's happening. Ed Milliband is probably the most ideologically extreme minister that we've had on net zero to date. You know, this is when you don't believe in in God, you tend to believe in anything, and he's fallen ahead first into radical net zeroism. And you know, thankfully, we've had some surveys over the last couple of weeks showing that the British people are actually becoming more skeptical about net zero, particularly the way in
which is piling higher bills on ordinary working people. And we've also seen frustratingly new taxes on family farms that have been on these islands for generations. The labor governments decided it's going to impose inheritance tax on those family farms alongside the net zero regulations, alongside the net zero
extra bills. At the same time as that labor government is giving the same amount of money that it's going to raise by smashing British farms five hundred million, it's giving five hundred million to climate initiatives across Africa and South America. Well, but that's a kind of real sense that this labor government is certainly not on the side of the working man and woman, but it's definitely not
on the side of British farming. And that's why we've got more tractors than ever in Westminster protesting almost on a weekly basis, because I tell you you won't feel this necessarily in Australia, but there is a political revolution that it is about to happen in this country. Everybody can feel it. All the key groups in this coalition, the farmers, the work a small town as the pensioners.
They're all utterly fed up with this labor government, which is why we're seeing these remarkable shifts in the Poland.
Well, Matt, I can tell you can see it here in Australia and some of the regions where people are sick of being smashed by renewables projects coming in across their farmland. But you know, back to your point about these farmers, it seems to me, and I'd love your thoughts on this, that really what is going on here is not so much about saving the climate. It's about smashing all of the traditional pillars of Britain, one of
which of course being farmers. But you know, also we've seen it with the elderly and you know the treatment of them and other sorts of groups that really this is about not much for climate changing the climate, but changing society.
Yeah, I mean, i'd go in a little bit even further, I mean our greatest conservative philosopher, Roger Scrutin called it the culture of repudiation. Yes, he said, essentially, what you get among the elite class is a culture of repudiation. They repudiate everything that makes those nations distinctive, their history, identity, their collective memory. You also use the term euchophobia, a
sort of hatred of your own people. And I think in essence, what we've seen, particularly since the twenty tens, is a radicalization of the elite class. Is it's basically turned against its own people. And it's done that because among the elite world, you know, you do win social status by being negative and derogatory about nation states, about the deplorables, about you know, the garbage people, about the loons and the so called racists and the xenophotes. That's
how today's elite class win social status. It's this luxury belief. And Rob Henderson, an academic from Cambridge, had this idea that you know, fifty years ago the elite accrued status through money, through wealth and the states, whereas today they have tried unsuccessfully to win social status by looking down on their own people and winning applause from other members of that elite class, and I think that's what's going on. The only problem they've got is a forgotten majority aren't
going to go along with it. They're saying, well, look, we love our country, we love our history, we love our culture. We actually know. I think it's remarkable to come from these islands. I think it's really great to come from these islands. All the contributions we've made over centuries. We're really proud of this. We're not going to give this up. And that's where they've miscalculated. You see, they
control the institutions. They think they can do this top down, but nobody else is going to go along with it.
Matt Goodwin absolutely superb as always to chat to you now before you go. You're far too much of a gentleman to have asked me to do this. But i'd like to plug your book, Bad Education, which I think comes out this week or very shortly. Thank you tell us about it because our viewers will want to rush out and buy this, So tell us about it and tell us what readers can expect.
Well, you're very kind to mention it. It's essentially a memoir of what happened to me over the course of twenty years of working in some of the UK's binus universities. And it's really about this political revolution and I watched it firsthand how our institutions in higher education, our universities and colleges, basically were taken over by radical, woke progressivism.
And I talk about all the things that I've seen and the way in which the entire system has basically been rigged to entrench the dominance of this group, and that has really weakened universities, has pushed them off course from what they're supposed to do, which is protectory speech, pursuit truth, give students a wide range of ideas and beliefs.
And I left last summer I said, you know, I've had enough, and my parting shot was writing this book just to kind of get across a dissenter's view as to what is happening on campus.
Well, it's happening here in Australia very much the same. Matt Goodwin, thanks so much. So Outsider's viewers can go and get bad education, go online and find that that'll be a great read. And Matt thanks so much for staying up late and chatting to us here on Outsiders as you so kindly do. Coming up after the break, got lots more to talk about, net Zaney and wacademia.
How appropriate, all in a tick here on Outsiders. You're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahee, with James Morrow and myself thrown in and thank you so much for watching us every Sunday morning. We certainly do appreciate it. And you can see the three of us Friday nights now myself at seven pm, James at eight pm and Rita at nine pm.
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Rita, do that bit later.
We'll do that bit later, Rita. Everything has its point of time.
It's a straction.
We're just doing Friday promotion.
Net Zaney, the insane world of net zero policies. Great to see that Donald Trump is even being acknowledged by the La Times as kind of performing a Moses like act. You're bringing water to California to help put out those bushfires. You will remember that Trump's been saying for over a year, why are they diverting water from the California, which is an abundance of water coming down from Canada and from northern California. Why are they diverting it into the sea.
They were diverting into the sea to save some silly little fish. This was environmental woke policies, net zero garbage, et cetera, et cetera. And Trump has said put the water back, and the La Times I said, yes, it was Donald Trump who brought water back to California. Reta. Yes.
And the LA Times, for those who don't know, it's kind of like a cross between the Washington Post and the New York Times.
Are very left, very very left.
So for them to be giving any sort.
Of credit to Donald Trump would be a very painful exercise.
Indeed, James, here in Australia, we've seen wholesale electricity prices jump on coal outages and record demand. And there's a fresh bill coming up as well, James.
Tom and so you know, the important thing to do about this is that there's going to be a lot of spin around it, and the spin is going to be, oh well, the reason why the power price is going up is because we had to rely on call and that the core power plants have been having all these maintenance troubles and so on. Well, that's because it's beneficial policy to run down our ability to use call and so that's why these plants have been going offline for
maintenance and making our power prices more expensive. This is once again an example of how this renewable transition, it's always cheaper prices yesterday, cheaper prices tomorrow, but never somehow cheaper prices today.
Exactly, we know what is cheaper, we know what's more reliable, we know what we've got an abundance of.
This isn't hard.
At some point we need politicians in this country and I'm looking at the coalition here to have the guts to say we're persevering with coal until nuclear is running and can power the nation with no emissions. If emissions are still the number one priority. But as it is, we are hurting ourselves. It is madness.
We keep repeating. It's I'm getting sick of saying it rowan.
In the face.
But to let me give you an example in Norway. Just in the last couple of days, Norway has literally declared virtually a net zero war by saying we're going to stop sending our electricity over to Britain if they can't organize their own their own electricity. They had a wind drought, for example, where as I mentioned last week, winds dropped to as low as one percent of supplying electricity needs in the UK because there was a wind drought. Now they go, oh, the wind row is caused both
chloride change. So it's the perfect circular argument. It's all nonsense. And Norway I've said, we've had enough of this nonsense.
Sorry, yep, there's a bigger point to this, yere. Let's bring it back to Australia, right, yeah, okay, so set this out here on the left. You've got all of these people who what does zabatra? Oh, believe the science.
We believe the science, trust the science to science to settle right, they say this, but they don't understand the science says that there is absolutely nothing that we can do in terms of policy in this country that will do anything to change the weather, the wind, the temperature, the number of clouds, the amount of rainfall days, and so the idea that we need to somehow self admiserate ourselves because if we do so, we will appease the
weather gods. Trust the science people and we'll have you know, the right amount of rainfall and we won't have bush fires anymore. Well, that's all nonsense, and it is doubly nonsense because you look at China, Well, they're building all these coal plants, I think three hundred more by the end of the decades, something like that. And here we are exporting our coal, we are exporting our gas, we're
exporting our uranium. And if it's fine for these other countries to use us to make a buck off of and you know, God bless us, I think we should, then it should be good enough to use that stuff right here at home to provide sheeap energy for our consumers and for our manufacturers, so that we can make stuff here, build stuff here, and not just have to buy it back.
From overseas one hundred percent. And as Rachel is saying, the Coalition have really got to get to groups with this issue. You can't hide behind it, you can't run away from it. Reality is going to catch up, and it's going to catch up very fast. And I do the Coalition embraces the new reality. And there's two big realities.
One is the fact that Donald Trump, as Rita was saying before, is changing the entire investment outlook if we want the miners, the big mining companies, the big agricultural companies, if we want the big investors to invest in Australia, we have to ditch net zero. It's that simple. Otherwise we are destroying the future prosperity of every kid out there. Every person has a small business. The greatest impediment on our future prosperity is that net zero.
It has to go.
Now, even the banks, as James was saying, Rita, even the banks, now you've got the Royal Bank of Canada has come out and followed the Toronto Dominion Bank James, and the Bank of Montreal. They're all coming out and say, oh, actually we're getting rid of all the climate nonsense.
Tell us about well, yeah, you've had these sort of global agrievance among all these banks to simply stop lending two foss field projects, to call to gas and all of that. And of course the idea was here that they would, you know, put pressure on the banks to put a pinch on the way energy was generated and the way things might and all of that sort of stuff. And well, finally, again I think that's a part of
it is just simply the Trump effect. There is no more of this nonsense about how we're going to screw down our ability to make money. Get stuff out of the ground, get resources out of the ground, and use them to create a better life for everybody, because that is ultimately what this is about. And I think that the people who you know are all about this green cultishness. They don't want ordinary people to have a better life.
And I feel like part of that is actually because you know, for them, they feel like they want to keep every relatively poorer to keep themselves in a better position relatively.
Well, the Australian banks they're not immediately backing out of the un later knit zero banking alliance, which I think is a disastrous move. But the banks here, well, they're very lucky because they've got the guarantee that we provide, so they're almost fail safe. They can make stupid decisions
and still make enormous profits. But surely it's a matter of time before they do also abandon this un back net zero banking alliance because the world has changed, and this is something the Coalition has to understand.
It's not just that Paris is.
No longer relevant the Paris Climate Accord.
There's been a political realignment one we've talked about on this program for years and much of the political class in this country refuses to see it, can't see it. I don't know against it goes against their narrative, but it is undoubtable.
You've seen it in the UK, you see it in the US.
It's certainly evident right here in Australia that the elite, the richest are leaning left, the working class, the aspirational class, the middle classes are increasingly leaning right. So the Coalition's future isn't in those formatils. It's not in the affluent inner city. It's in the outer suburbs. It's in the regional areas, and that's where these climate policies will work.
And that's what you've got to They've got to accept reality. At some point, they have to.
Accept reality, and they have to accept the Coalition has to accept if they want to be the party of fiscal responsibility, if they want to be the party that we've had seven quarters of declining productivity in this nation. If the Coalition want to breathe the nation that makes this country rich, they have to abandon net zero. There is no alternative. Otherwise you are lying to the people of Australia. So if you want to be the party of prosperity, which we all are desperate for you to be,
that's what you've got to do. We're going to keep we are going to keep saying it Rita till we're blue in the face, because we have to, because nobody else is saying it. After the break, we've got Peter Kredlin joining us to talk about her discussion with Peter Dutton. Don't go anywhere all here on Outsiders. Hello, You're watching Outsiders with the gen under fluid, free spirit, Richard Panahee, the fragrant and delightful Janey Morrow, and myself Rowen are
born in the wrong body, Dean. Fortunately, I was born in nera when such comments were not only unnecessary, but were as instinctive and commonplace as well mother's milk. The gender madness that has inflicted Western nations over the past few years was not, as the left would have us believe, a natural extension of human rights and liberal progressive thought, but rather a dangerous deviation of Marxist ideology, deliberately designed
to sew division and discontent. Radical Marxists have always sought to foster unhappiness resentment and confusion in younger generations as a pathway to power. Radical Marxists have always sought to dismantle the traditional family, and radical Marxists have always sought to replace the idea of a higher spiritual value God if you like, with the concept of the state being the all powerful creator, so powerful it can even turn a boy into a girl. What better way to achieve
all these goals? And through popularizing radical transgender theories. Fortunately, people are now starting to wake up and speak, I'll play you now. Mia Hughes, the author of the Wpath W Path files, have a listened to her.
It cannot be said often enough or strongly enough. Feather is no such thing as a transgender child. If a little boy says he's a girl, adults in his life need to tell him, kindly but firmly, that he is not, and he never can be. It is our duty as adults to keep children tethered to reality as they explore the world and find their place within it. It cannot be said often enough or strongly enough, feather is no
such thing as a transgender child. If a little boy says he's a girl, adults in his life need to tell him we see legions of young, confused people making sense of their pain and distress through the fashionable lens of gender. They are lost, they are lonely, and they are hurting, and they are desperately searching for a solution. These young people have astronomically high rates of autism and
plenty of ADHD. Some display traits of borderline personality disorder with its classic characteristic of an unstable sense of self.
Others are just discovering a.
Homosexual orientation and they haven't quite accepted that yet, and then there's depression, anxiety, and so much trauma. These are unhappy people in search of happiness who are seduced by impossible promises. Transgender ideology makes adopt a new name, new pronouns, take hormones, and undergo surgeries and you can be a whole new person.
So that was Mia Hughes as I said. She's the author of the w Path files, and that report, last year's scandalized. That lifted the lid on the whole notion of pseudoscientific sear virgil and hormonal experiments being conducted on children, on adolescents, and on vulnerable adults, and it reveals widespread medical malpractice occurring in the name of transgender healthcare.
Now.
Mia Hughes was speaking at Genspect, which is an organization that describes itself as quote advocating for a non medicalized approach to gender related distress. Now, Mia may or may not be correct in all the assertions she made there and those clips that we played you, but it is clear that the world is moving on from the automatic assumption of a couple of years ago that transgenderism could never be questioned or challenged. Donald Trump has made his position very clear as of today.
It will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two male and female.
Now, Donald Trump followed up those words with action, so he signed an executive order which banning bans gender transitions for anyone under nineteen. I'll repeat that they ban gender transitions for anyone under nineteen in the States now. Trump, by the way, has also declared war on the insidia's pronouns industry. He's made sure no more pronouns on any government department communications here in Australia, though, other than Queensland, which has put a ban on new patients under eighteen
accessing hormone treatments. We are still dragging our feet in Australia. No surprises there. Labor Health Minister Mark Butler this week announced that he has asked the National Health and Medical Council to conduct a review into guidelines regarding wait for its aspects of children's gender affirming care. And as I said earlier in the show, the clue is right there in that oxymoronic term gender affirming. Don't expect anything other than more ideological clap trap to come out of that.
I suspect that review, but we do have our own Genspect Australia, run by Jude Hunter. Judith Hunter. Here she is with Mia Hughes at a conference last year in Lisbon. Judith has first hand experience of the devastating impacts of transgenderism, having tragically seen her own daughter lost for many, many years now to what I call the transgender cult. This is the worldwide cult, and I do use the word deliberately.
That this week enraged one mother in the UK when she found out that her fourteen year old boy was being asked at school whether he was comfortable with his gender, comfortable in his own body. Also at the forefront of the battle against this cult are, Catherine Deves, Holly Lawford Smith,
Rachel Wong and many other very brave women. Last week, Rachel Wong from the Women's Forum Australia organized an open letter signed by more than one hundred public figures demanding that the Albanese government or an incoming dun government hold an urgent national inquiry into all gender treatments for children. So, along with Matt Canavan, John Anderson, Saldrov and many concerned doctors and specialists, was former Prime Minister Attorney Abbott speaking here to Caroline Marcus, I am.
Very concerned about the dozens, if not hundreds, if not thousands, of young people who are being potentially irreparably damaged by this gender fluidity push. We won't let them buy cigarettes, we won't let them drive cars, allow them to vote. Why on earth do we allow them to make these sorts of changes?
Why?
Indeed? Meanwhile, in France, a guyn ecologist has been barred from his practice for a month, according to The Daily Mail, his crime being that he refused to examine a transgender patient because, as he said, the doctor said. The gynecologist said he was only qualified to treat quote real women.
So he's been suspended. The madness continues unabated, of course, as you can see in this photo here where a French woman is holding a sign that reads there is no feminism without trans In my opinion, one of the most disgusting aspects of the entire transgender issue has been and is the cowardice and silence not only of much of the medical fraternity, but also of the feminist movement.
Where are all those great feminist warriors who wander around the corridors of the ABC spouting they're feminist mantras and were so keen to accuse people like former PM Tony Abbott of being a misogynistic monster because he looked at his watch while a woman was speaking. But these same feminists, you know they are. They're all over social media as well,
all over newspapers, all over radio shows. They remain completely silent over allegations, you know, of men getting their rocks off by dressing up as women and marching into young girls changing rooms. Nope, not a people there, you haven't just my opinion speaking of which I've also heard. Haven't heard a squeak out of this group?
Ah?
There they are powerful and sanctimonious female politicians haven't heard a squeak out of them on questioning transgenderism and the risks and dangers that the ideology poses to young women and girls. I'm referring, of course, to the Toxic Teals. Just for the fun of it, I googled Allegra Spender trans It's got a nice rhyme to it, and what a surprise discovered she has quote consistently voted for transgender rights. So I don't think the open letter that Abbott and
others have signed will find much interest there. Maybe it will. Let's see if the Toxic Teals are prepared to stand
up for our teenagers and for teenage women. As I've reminded you many times, the Toxic Teals are also responsible for this letter, which they all signed, all their signatures, urging Pennywong to reinstate funding to anwar early last year the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, regardless of the many concerns voiced on this program and the Spectator and elsewhere, the many concerns have been raised about the links between
ANWA and Hamas going back years and years. Last week, the Israeli government finally suspended all contact with UNMAR.
The legislation forbids UNWA operating within the sovereign territory of the State of Bedevel and forbids any contact between the value offishers and UNWA.
So we heard an apology from any of these teals there they are, and very Jewish electorates as well. Have I heard an apology from any of them about signing this letter? Maybe if you're in those electrics, you should ask. And last week a spokeswoman for UNRAH was asked a very simple question, can.
You persuade the Israelis?
Guaranteed the Israelis that your organization is not currently still as they put it, infiltrated by Hamas. But we are a United Nations agency that abides, according to international reviews, by the humanitarian principle of neutrality. I'll take that as a no. I guess. And finally, I have to agree with the writer Kadja Khan who wrote in the Daily Mail saying that the se of that lone female Israeli hostage being jostled and jeered at by all those Palestinian
men absolutely turns her stomach. Again. I've been listening. Where are the tills, Where are the feminists?
Where are they all?
On the evil that has been inflicted on those poor women and girls. What a disgrace. Well, our colleague, Peter Kredlin joins us. Now, Peter, great to see you Sunday morning. Here you are. We've got you off your phone, Peter, you're all outsiders.
Now, let's just putting myself on silent good.
That's okay, no worries. Great to see you, Peter. You've been had a very busy week. Never miss your show every evening. It's fantastic. You've got a big interview with Peter Dutton coming up on Thursday night, going to be your entire show. So you spent the Friday interviewing Peter Dutton. So tell us you know I've been predicting here that Peter Dutton will win the next election, will be the Prime Minister before the end of May. I've been saying
that for eighteen months. Most people have mocked and jeered at me for saying it, but that's what I believe. I don't believe the Australian people will put up with this labor nonsense any longer. What's your sense they can he win? And what was your sense of the man Peter Dutton?
All right?
First of all, thank you for having me on the show outside as you are my company every Sunday morning. So I returned the compliment, I'm delighted to be here. Look where the idea came from. I approached his office last year and said, I've known your boss for twenty years.
Australians don't know him.
They're listening to him, they've seen him, he's familiar, but they don't know him. They haven't crossed that threshold to anticipating what he might deal with issues if he was Prime minister, and particularly with women.
We don't want women's policies.
Let's not traverse that territory all over again, but we do want to get a sense that we know our leaders right, we know our leaders. And I have known him, as I said, for a long time. He is a really different bloke behind the sort of media portrayal of the two minute grab in the commercial news packages, you know. So that was the impetus of what I did, and it was an extraordinary interview. It went for an hour and forty five minutes. We'll put an hour of it
to air. You'll be able to get the whole chat on Sky News Digital and I hope people do take the time or listen to it as a podcast and really understand all the motivations. Now I learned things rowan from Peter that I didn't know, like his dad was bricky. Now I knew we had a building background, but I didn't know his dad was on the tools. I didn't
know how tough he did it as a kid. So the Prime Minister doesn't have the mortgage on coming or growing up sort of tough or growing up very working class. Peter Dutton did as well, only he doesn't bang on about it as much as the PM. So I hope people understand more about Peter Dutton when they watched this interview.
Do I think he can win?
Yeah?
I do, I really do.
I think it is possible. I don't say it's yet probable. I'm hard headed on sort of not just the published polls but polsters that I trust that i'm talking to.
But it's certainly there for the taking.
And I think the longer the government leaves it to call the election, the more it's heading Peter Dutton's way to a certain majority government.
And I think you're right. I was out in Aston last night. I was down in Karenga might.
Last weekend two key seats in Victoria both got labor incumbents in them and the baseball bats already. You know, people are so angry they can't wait to change the government.
In Victoria.
We've saw Peter Dutton do brilliantly throughout the Voice referendum, articulated the position well, but there are fears that he is playing it a little bit too safe. Reluctance to leave the Paris climate Deal. The ABC reported that he's reluctant to lean into the trans issue, which is just a home run. It is an easy, easy policy for any Conservative to take to an election.
Why do you think that is? Why do you think he lacks that boldness in some areas.
I think I'll answer it as a campaigner reader. If I was on his campaign team, I'd say, on some of these issues, send it indication, but don't pick a fight because it will consume a huge amount of oxygen. He doesn't have the megaphone that a Donald Trump has in a campaign. It's different in Australia, and it's a different multi party system obviously, and you're not voting for
the president. You're voting for candidates at a state level. Now, I'm not saying he shouldn't be forthright and telling us what he thinks on these issues. I do ask him about women in sport. I do ask him on my show about issues in relation to the gender inquiry. So I do ask him all of those questions, and I think you'll be very interested in what he has to say. But I think you've got to only now what could be a month out from an election. Two months out from an election, he's.
Got to win it now. Just on Paris. My view on Paris is Paris is dead.
Paris is dead at China, India, at the United States and Russia, the four biggest amitted sixty percent of the world's emissions there in one go.
None of them men are in Paris. They're either out of Paris or Paris doesn't apply to them. So Paris is dead.
And I think we are waking up to a new reality of what does the world look like. We want base load without the reliance and renewables only like we have in Australia. I've been out in the country. You can see what it's doing to farmers. I think this is about to change. And the fact that the government can't give us those twenty thirty five targets that are due next month.
Tells me everything.
Now, Peter, you mentioned and you you are one of the great minds and analysis on the numbers and whether we get a minority government or we don't. I want to play a grab from your interview which you've kindly given us a little peek at what's on for Thursday night, and this is discussing this year minority government. Here you go.
Minority government is not good for our country, and particularly given the instability that's been created through three years of a bad government, to then put a second layer off minority government on that. I think if Australians believe that times are tough now, they'll get much tougher that environment. And I do believe that we can form a majority government after the election. I think the momentum is there.
I think people are demanding of a change, and I think we have certainly the credentials in terms of economic management and national security at a time when that's really important in people's minds.
But we've got a lot of work to do between now and then.
Now. Peter, I thought those very interesting what he talks about his confidence in achieving a majority government obviously you know he's going to say that, but I'd love to get your insight from your conversation with him about how does he plan to convert those baseball bats which you mentioned a little earlier, into actually changing you know, which way they're going with this government. I mean, and we are acknowledging that that we are having a more presidential style.
I think of prime ministerial campaigns these days that maybe we used to tenor twenty years ago. So how does he plan to He did that over the it was over the course of a year, but he may only have a matter of weeks, depending on when the Prime Minister decides to go to the pool. How does he plan to make that conversion?
Peter, It's a lot like it was with Tony Abbitt in twenty ten. If you remember in twenty ten, Liberal and Labor got to the end of that election race and we ended up with the same number of seats. Tony Abbott just lost the negotiation, though Gillard was able to secure those traitorous former National Party in the Oakshott and Windsor So there's a lot of parallels James and what happened then, and we just needed more time in
that race. If we'd had, I believe a couple of weeks or even another week, it would have been different. If the New South Wales Liberals had actually got some decent candidates, that might have helped as well. But broadly speaking, you've got to heighten a contest between the two major parties. You've got to reduce the interest your side might have
on voting around the edges. So you know, and I speak to people a lot where the children of good Liberals vote Green, or they vote green in the Upper House. This is not the election where they're allowed to do that. No one is allowed to vote away from the two majors. If you are of the left side, have the guts to vote labor, do not give us the risk of
a Green majority government. But I hope to God if you're working class, if you're someone who wants to get ahead, if you're someone who was struggling with the cost of living, and that is so many Australians who used to be on the labor side of politics, I would be saying to you, if you've never done it before, vote liberal, work for our country's best interest and keep away from the miners and Peter.
I have thrown into that mix as well. If you're in a teal electric get rid of the toxic teals. They are an absolute disaster.
Well they're Richie Green's Rowan, they're well.
Healed greens, right exactly, Well, said Peter Kredlin. Well, that'll be six pm on Thursday, and I thank you so much, Peter, thanks for coming on Outsiders. Can't wait to watch that Thursday evening. The two Peters, Peter and Peter are sitting there on six on Thursday night. That will be fantastic. Make sure you watch that. Peter Craiglin, nevanss six pm every night after the break, James's Donkey Votes and Christian Witten on the States. You know Outsiders.
Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rowan, Affirmative action, Dean Rita, preferential policies, panahe and of course I'm the token James Moorrow. Now, the big story this week, well that horrendous plane crash on the Potvic where sixty four civilians and three soldiers tragically lost their lives when a Blackhawk helicopter collided with a regional jet flying in from Kansas. Now a lot
of fingers are being pointed here what went wrong? Everybody wants to know who is to blame, and let's just say at the outset, it's going to be up to the FAA and the NTSB to make the final call. Though right now there is a lot of question about just what was happening in that helicopter with investigators looking at it was flying twice as high at it as it should have as part of their investigation. But all of that aside, the crash has also done something else.
It has put DEI diversity, equity and inclusion policies of the Biden administration, as well as the new Trump administration's attempt to clean them out, such as through executive orders specifically targeting aviation, squarely into the frame. Now, let's not forget here that remember the Biden administration and the Democrats in general, well, they were and remain the party of di We saw this time and time again at how these policies created a crisis of competence from one end
of American government to the other. I mean, just look at how Joe Biden's final Press secretary, Carrine Jean Pierre, was introduced to the public.
She will be the first black woman, the first out LGBTQ plus person to serve in this role, which is amazing because representation matters.
Oh yes, representation matters. They picked her because of all of those identity tick of boxes, not because of her qualifications. And well, how well did she do as the queer woman of color? And don't you dare criticize her, you bigot. And this is why Trump's new present to her secretary Carolyn Levitt is such a breath of fresh air. Here she is concisely nailing why DEI is such a bad idea, particularly when it comes to where it has been under so much focus the past few days. Air traffic control.
When you are flying on an airplane with your loved ones, which every one of us in this room has, do you pray that your plane lands safely and gets you to your destination or do you pray that the pilot has a certain skin color. I think we all know the answer to that question. And as President Trump said yesterday, it's common sense.
Well it's common sense. But of course I thinking about common sense is it's not always all that common because under the Biden administration, not only was his Press Segretory's office but all but you know, even air safety was put through the toxic filter of identity politics. But last year The Washington Times reported that the FAA turned away candidates for air traffic controllers because they were guess what,
the wrong race, i e. White. The New York Post revealed that under Biden, the FAA was looking for people with intellectual even and psychiatric disabilities to fill roles at the FAA and as air traffic controllers. And again, folks, I can't imagine anything going wrong with that. But right now the FAA is still fighting a class action suit brought by one thousand would be air traffic controllers who all said that they were denied positions because they didn't
fit in with the agency's diversity quotas. And for all the questions being raised about the qualifications of Trump's nominees to key agencies, the Biden administration and Transportation Secretary Pete Budigig, who was one of the most incompetent individuals ever to hold that or any other cabinet post under Joe Biden, well, let's not forget that they tried to put this guy up to lead the FAA.
Can you quickly tell me what airspace requires an ADSB transponder.
I'm not sure I can answer that question right now.
That's okay, We'll just keep going. So that's a pretty important part. So what are the six types of special use airspace that protect this national security that appear on FAA charts.
Sorry, Senator, I cannot answer that question.
So what are the operational limitations of a pilot flying under basic med Senator, I'm not a pilot.
So he's not a pilot, but head the FA with no basic knowledge of the industry. So why did he get put up for that position? Well, your guess is as good as mine. But again, it all comes down to what really must be summed up as a conflict
of visions between the left and the right. And on the one side, you've got the left they believe in Quota's diversity studies, dividing everybody up by race and creed and skin color and who they like to sleep with, as if any of that matters to keeping a plane in the sky or frankly, pretty much any other job you can think of. And then on the other hand, on the conservative side of the right, you've got common sense racial blindness may be the best candidate win the
philosophy espoused by Donald Trump. This gets to the very heart of this conflict. Here there are countless examples again, from the FAA to the White House press room, everywhere. Again, here's another one I found, just one of a million examples. I could note this how this display of photographs at the FBI's world famous trading Academy in Quantico of Virginia, which seems to sum it up. And it's being painted
over right there. Under the Trump administration. You see diversity, you see fairness, you see compassion, all highlighted in big letters. But at the FBI training headquarters, oddly, no mention of virtues like justice or activities like catching criminals. It's all just about performative virtue singling versus you know, actual performance. So is it any wonder that the FBI too, because such a police became such a political swap and a plaything for the Democrats. Well, not at all. And it
is also why DEI is so absolutely toxic. Once it is introduced into any organization, it becomes like a cancer, a rust that eats the way at the trust people have in that organization. And one more thing, DEI ironically hurts those who it is supposed to benefit from the most because everyone from a protected class or group suddenly is under suspicion. Did they earn that position on their merit or because they ticked a box that helped an
HR manager get a bonus. Well, thanks to the compassion of the left, competent minority members are the hardest hit.
Well join thank Greg stuff Jains. Joining us now live from Colorado is former Trump senior advisor Christian written Christian, great to see you. I've just frozen you there on the Not only we've just lost a mare, but I think well, as soon as we've got Christian, we'll ask him about the latest on that crash and whether it is in fact you know, when we will know how much diversity inclusion policies played in that crash. Christian, there you are. We just lost you there for a second.
Great to have you on the show. You're here on merit, Christian, only on merit. That's the only reason we have you on this show, right, So.
Tell us that the connection that's da.
So just tell us the latest on the crash, and I guess we've been discussing here. We won't know for a while how much DEI or diversity did play in the outcome and may have played no part at all, or it may have been entirely responsible. What's the latest thinking there in the States.
Well, I think there is some I mean, it looks from preliminary information that the helicopter was flying too high and on the wrong course.
So that's the primary culprit here.
But if you look at the FAA generally, if you look at the US military generally, DEI has played a major role in degrading these institutions. The FAAUR Federal Aviation Administration, which handles their traffic control and plays a dominant, some say way two dominant role in our airport operations here in the United States.
And Donald Trump knows a lot about this.
People forget, he actually ran an airline, the Trump Shuttle, between New York Loguardia Airport and this very airport, Reagan Airport, where the accident happened.
He ran that in late eighties and early nineties.
We have an.
Incredibly antiquated air traffic controller system. It's people speaking using analog radios, controllers giving compass heading speeds, altitudes, or more recently GPS waypoints.
But this system could have been digitized long ago.
You could create mechanisms to prevent this type of thing from happening doesn't take any AI, just good old fashioned algorithms like the time, like the kind that for example, run trains in Japan one hundred miles an hour only ninety seconds apart. And so instead of focusing on that, they've been focusing on how many genders there are and how many skin colors there are redone.
How much of an issue will this become, because I've seen segments of the media trying to actually blame the general Trump administration for this accident, saying he's cutting these programs and stripping money from certain bodies. It has become so pilariticized this particular tragedy.
It has it's you know, too soon.
It's just two weeks actually slightly less into the Trump administration that this happened. No one in the same way people don't hold a president accountable for the economy, at least for a quarter or two. I don't think anyone will say that Trump or a secretary of Defense were responsible for this. In fact, they think they'll use it,
you know, to react and to make improvements. Maybe those two backup runways at Reagan Airport should be closed after nine to eleven, there was talk about closing this airport entirely because it's so close to the Capitol and the White House. Certainly that military base probably needs to move operations. But this is occurring amid a backdrop of shock and awe by Trump across the government and across our cultures.
Just today, the administration placed twenty five percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico and ten percent tariffs on China.
Those are the three.
Largest US trading partners, so that will probably dominate news, and I think the story will change pretty quickly here.
James, Well, Christian, you know, I can say I think with some confidence I'm the only person at this desk to have actually flown on the Trump shuttled back when that was an operation mad I'm sure I've got to navigate or something like that from it somewhere in an
old box sitting around in the attic. But on too though some of the other stuff that Donald Trump has done, I have been very pressed by his move to cut funding from all of these NGOs, which sound like they're very sort of positive and doing good social work around the world, but really just seemed to be a way for leftists to bring in migrants into the country and to funnel money back to democrats tell us about this, well.
That's right.
A lot of these NGOs sounds sort of do goodery, and you're never supposed to use US government funding to lobby the government, but do things like community organizing, basically employing otherwise unemployable people to do progressive things. And one thing we'll see if Trump gets into this too, what I call the democracy industrial complex.
And I worked on democracy.
I'm a pro human rights guy, worked on human rights at the State Department under two presidents. But things like the National Endowment for Democracy, the International Republican Institute, Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, all completely funded by the US government, who originally were supposed to oppose the Soviet Union and now oppose what they call dictatorship.
But that also includes the new right, that includes Donald Trump, that includes Victor Worbon, that includes the Prime Minister of Italy and some of the newer leaders who are coming up in Central Europe. And defunding those basically these entrenched institutional liberal activities that are being funded by taxpayers should be very good just to save money.
And also to cut these activities out, So Christian, I wanted to ask you what should Australia.
What should we in Australia be doing.
You know, we don't want tariff's Australia as a resource wealthy nation. Should we be following Trump? Should we be getting as close to Trump's policies, you know, like pulling out of the Paris Agreement, abandoning zero or should we be just carrying on our merry way ignoring Donald Trump's the revolution there?
Well.
Trump I think is most impressed by a couple of things. First of all, the fact that actually the United States has a slight trade surplus with Australia. I believe it's pretty narrow, is good, so I don't think he intends to attempt or enact tariffs or anything like that in Australia. I think Trump is also impressed by countries that pay to defend themselves. So he's a lot more impressed by Israel, for example, than Ukraine or Taiwan.
You know, with Australia. I hope I'm not going to get in trouble here.
I like Acus, I like the idea of Australia having nuclear submarines. I'm concerned they'll take so long to get into the ocean that the younger crew members are Australia a twinkle.
In the eye of their parents that Australia is seen, you.
Know, contributing to the defense of the Pacific against China, I think is helpful. So continuing that with those those measures, maybe taking a few shortcuts. Australia also does have pretty good automated underwater vehicles that frankly the US Navy out of copy.
So with seeing some incredible polling coming out showing that the Democrats are at the lowest numbers possibly ever, the Republicans are flying, and we've got this talent pool amongst the Republicans, so many young, bright future presidential candidates. You've got jd Vance, Ron De Santis, vivek Ramaswami, Sarah Huckebie Sanders.
The list is long.
Who is going to be the next future leader of the of the Democrats. Is it going to be Gavin Newsom? Is there somebody else who's a front runner who could possibly take on the next line of Republicans who seem to be just absolutely going Gangbusterns.
It's hard to tell.
They just elected a new technical leader, Martin who was the head of the Minnesota Democrat Party at Minnesota. Of course, the origin of the vice presidential candidate, Tim Wild's known as tampon Tim, since he wanted to put in fact, did put tampon's in boys rooms in school.
But then you're right, the sort of real leader would be.
Is the heir apparent, who's the likely nominee four years from now. There's a surprising amount of support among Democrats, it seems for Kamala Harris as oh yeah, bring it up. Gavin Newsom as well, with his state on fire literally, and so the real question to me is whether they can figure out a way to talk to normal Americans, get back to speaking honestly and plain language, and talk about economic issues and move away.
You know, they're still talking about how they're going to have a delegate who is trans. You know, I'm actually a gay guy, and I really don't.
Like being associated with this alphabet super being considered an acronym as opposed to just a person.
And I think most Americans, including Americans.
Who would fit in those different groups, just just are so sick of the ethnic politics and the identity politics. So if the Democrats, if they can't get away from that, then they're looking at eight to twelve years in the wilderness.
I think JD Events will make sure that Christian. I think we'd missed the obvious candidate, which is obviously Kareeine Jean Pierre. She the ideal, ideal Christian. Great to chat to you and we'll chat again soon. Thanks so much, mate, Take care, all the best coming up Canbra Clown Show in a tick, roll up, roll up. It's the wackiest show in town. It's the Canberra Clown Show. I don't know about you, but I really love that old historic footage of circus acts from the distant past that you
rarely see anymore like this one. Well, here's another famous comedy routine from I think it was the nineteen eighties. See if you recognize this clown. Yes, of course that was Albozo back in the day, speaking at a pro Palestinian rally and demonizing Israel. Of course, Alboso's desperately tried to clean up his act ever since, but he still manages to get a good laugh out of reciting his favorite Jewish jokes. I went to my first bar Mitzvah on Saturday. The nice work Alboza you've been the first
ever bar mitzvah. That's the great thing about clowns hidden behind the gag lies an awkward truth. Still, when it comes to cracking Jewish jokes, you can't go past Albozo's sidekick, Jimbo, the clown.
On the domestic front here in Australia, Treasurer Jim Chalmers has apologized for clumsy comments suggesting.
Jewish Committee's fear over anti Semitic attacks are sometimes unfounded.
Yes, Jimbo mentioned there that he thought that criticism was not always unfounded, that fears were not always unfounded in the Jewish community, which means I guess Jimbo was suggesting that sometimes those fears were unfounded. Really, and what does that tell you about the labor mindset. Jimbo has since apologized for those insane remarks. But again, as the old saying goes, even the fool and the clown will eventually
reveal the truth. But Albozo even managed to get a laugh out of sending Pennywise Sorry Pennywong to the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.
Foreign Minister Pennywong as someone who understands racism and discrimination.
The Spectator Australia, which I am the editor, was less amused showing this as the cover for this week's issue. Indeed, in my Spectator editorial, I asked if sending Foreign Minister Wong to Auschwitz after fifteen months of an avalanche of anti Israeli policies and pronouncements from this labor government was a genuine attempt at fence mending with Australia's Jewish community
or merely the final insult You be the judge. Still, while Penny was off in Poland, Alboso had a crack at cracking the lucrative Chinese.
Circus Act Shinyan Kwilo gong Hee Fatchoi. In twenty twenty five, we welcome the Year of the Snake, a symbol of brinele transformation, wisdom and adaptability.
That's funny because I always tend to think of snakes as symbolizing, oh, you know, slippery, slithering creatures that speak with forked tongues. Silly me. But speaking of which, was Albozo being entirely truthful when he maintained the other day that the good thing about him is that he is always open with the press and doesn't speak in the controlled environments of a particular studio. He said this, by the way, in the controlled environment of a particular studio.
But anyway, take a look at the brilliant Jill on X and are amazing sound grab juxtapositions.
I'm someone who doesn't just exist in controlled environments of particular studios.
I'm someone who gets.
Out and about just from journalists, okay.
Think what I have is positive engagement with people.
Mostly about that, Asparency.
One of the things I do is I get out and about.
I don't just talk in controlled environments.
I talk to coming to mind, work for the roots.
I've got a tough quint Hey you up side, I've got a tough question.
You know you up for it. I'm absolutely up for it. Okay, and sorry, we can't really do that.
The protocol the Media Alliance will very bit upset if we.
I don't think the media will mind at all.
I take it.
Are you up for it?
Are you up for it?
I'm absolutely question is.
A few No, We're just taking questions from journalists because that's what you know a press.
Common haven't help us speaking of awkward juxtapositions. His Albosa back in the last election campaign, denying that. Accusing Scott Morrison. I'm not holding a hose was one of his slogans through the election.
You know one of your slogans was wasn't he to hold a hose?
Where have you been?
Sir?
You know.
It was said during the election multiple times. Where have you been last week?
This Prime minister who said that he didn't hold a hose?
I mean it's gone from I don't hold a hose, mate said I don't hold a hose. He said, I don't hold a hose mate. Scott Morrison was saying he doesn't hold a hose because in Australia, in tough times, every one of us has to hold a hose.
You know, one of your slogans was wasn't he to hold the hose? Where have you been?
Sir? You unbelievable? Well, Morrison may have been accused of going a wall during a week of bushfires, but Albanisy and his government have been missing in action for over fifteen months while the flames of anti Semitism have torched this nation.
I'm smiling and I'm happy.
Down the building well alight.
No one was injured, thankfully during the incident, frightening.
Me for what don't you see they're violent, You're causing I'm not causing this issue.
I'm sup recording pure hatred flares up in Woolara again, a burning car and vandalism targeting the Jewish community.
No fire, no vandalism, no paint, no threats, no intimidation.
The addresses written down inside the caravan were of the Great Synagogue in Sydney and the Sydney Jewish Holocaust Museum.
This is Australia today, unthinkable only two years ago. But this is what happens when you have a Prime minister, a foreign minister, and indeed an entire Labor, Greens and Teel government, the majority of whom have been marinated in anti Israeli sentiment and pro Palestinian activist sympathies their entire political lives. What's a circus? Unfortunately, it is no laughing matter and this government has disgraced itself around the world. Here's former Treasurer Josh Freedenberg.
But with respect to what has transpired over the last fifteen months, the Jewish community, myself and others have been calling for stronger action, identifying the problem, and each and every day these attacks have escalated in thisverity.
I'll lead the last word to Leonard Cohen fires Green, hyperborum well, extreme exaggeration or extreme stupidity? Have I listened to this Good Morning Britain TV host Ranvia Singh, she's been forced to apologize for see if you can spot the mistake in this particular grab.
Very good morning to you this Monday morning, King Charles will become the first British head of state to visit Auschwitz Berknal later today as part of events to mark eighty years since the liberation of the Nazi death camp. Six million people were killed in concentration camps during the Second World War, as well as millions of others because they were Polish, disabled, gay, or belonged to another ethnic group.
Oh, six million people, but the others were polished to death. The word Jews. That she dropped the word Jews, six million Jews and died in the Holocaust substituted with six million people. It's what Brendan O'Neil is called the dejudification of history. There trying to take the Jew out of the Holocaust. How sick is that? It's shame somebody didn't do that back in the nineteen forties but they've taken the jew out of the hole.
It's so sick, it's absolutely sick. It is a new form of Holocaust denial. There's no other term for it.
Ed.
It is a way to, I think, you know, its own sort of roundabout way basically excuse so much of the anti Semitism that we're seeing on the streets of London, of Australia, around the world as a result of the left's hatred of Israel. Now they're saying, oh, there's nothing special about the Jewish experience or something specially about Israel.
We can't call the only Jewish state a fascist Nazi state, And they do that an ironically out on the streets during protests, and then acknowledge the fact that it was Jews who were the target of that evil. Justin Trudeau came under criticism for similar antiques, for forgetting to mention the keyword jew Jewish during his speeches and posts about the Holocaust.
Just shocking.
But I'm not that shocked, to be honest with you, because we.
Have seen the left take a position on this and they're not backing away from it.
But it's a classic example of how the left abuse the language they always use the language to push their ideological agendas and to say six million people. Oh and then there's some others and Paul's and this to talk about the Holocaust not mentioned Jews is utterly despicable and that woman should be out of a job, she should be gone. She has since apologized, but someone made that decision and that's the key point.
And sorry, Jameson, we'll just say, you know, it all comes back to the current fight going on in the Middle East right now and what this is all about. It's one simple thing to destroy Israel's legitimacy as a Jewish state in a Jewish homeland that it has had for thousands of years by denying the Holocaust. They deny that which is basically smartest reasons for being I think it's just evil. It needs to be caught out everywhere.
And meanwhile, in Britain as well, Oxford and Cambridge it decided to dumb down.
Their exams take home papers.
Take home papers, diversity inclusionary to.
Hear, I want to close the gap between students from what they call different backgrounds. So again we're talking about dumbing.
Down Oxford and canstutions.
That shouldn't be all about meritocracy, but no, we need to have everybody perform equally.
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