Outsiders | 16 February

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This is Outside, Good morning and welcome to Outsiders, the show that is to cringeworthy political pr stunts designed to make politicians look more human rather than focusing on their terrible opinion polls. What Anthony Albanesi is too erotic? Since Romance on Valentine's Day?

Who reached out first?

Who dresses the best?

This is?

But who's the much stubborn? Here's your biggest bunny fan?

Oh?

Yes, Romeo and Juliet, Anthony and Clear, Pat Track, Kathy.

And Heathcliff eat your hearts out? You've got nothing on albow and Jody? Who said I love you first?

Same time? Same time? It was definitely the same time.

Yeah, who's one who had.

The best music taste?

Now?

No, make it song?

Excuse me.

There's a little bit much for a Sunday morning. But there's some good news that if the interrogators at Guantanago Bay are looking for a new way to get people to talk, well you just please, team they'll be begging for Bercy.

Who gives Tita the most treats?

Yeah that would be me.

Who's most likely to get lost even using a GPS I think we both.

Pretty good on navigating.

You were too quick then I've never gone luft really on the half of Gadie and I Happy Valentine Today Australia.

Happy Valentine's Stage one year since we got a game.

Who wants to throw up?

First?

And in the meantime, while Albow and Jody head off upstairs, let's grab the lady outsid news. Ye anyway, even funnier. Even funnier was this morning on Andrew Clenell's excellent show, which we've just finished. Before us, both Peter Dutton and Claire O'Neill of the Labor Party on a minister. We're talking about Kevin Right, our favorite person here on this show.

It's not a yes or no answer that can be given. We have to have an ambassador who is in our country's best interests. Kevin obviously is an accomplished person as Prime Minister of our country, and if he's the best person for the job, then he should stay in the job. If it turns out that he's had no access to the White House and no real influence in relation to this issue or whatever the next issue might be, then

So you'd make a judgment call once you hit off, once you got some more information.

But having said that, my instinct would be to leave him in the job. But if again, if there are insurmountable problems that he has or that the administration has with him, then that would make it very difficult.

There is not a single person on the planet that I would have as Australian ambassador to Washington than Kevin Rudd. Kevin Rudd is a global expert in relations regarding China, which is of course one of the most important issues that we confront and will continue to confront. He's one of the most assiduous, hard working, diligent patriots of our country, and he's doing a fantastic job.

Well, Hyperba hyperball, Clara, you've just earned yourself a spot on Hyperbare. That was hilarious, Clarina, Obviously you weren't talking about Kevin Rudd. You're talking about someone completely different. This is the same Kevin right, of course, who was so said such horrible rude things about Donald Trump over the years, and who, by the way, was a complete disaster of a prime minister in this country.

Reader, he was knifed by his own, who is loath by his own. No one hates Kevin Rudd more than people within the Labor Party.

Let's be honest.

Here, and to suggest that his expertise with China makes him fit to be ambassador in the year of what.

How does that?

Maybe?

Send him to China, Send him to Beijing, then maybe he'll do some good there if he's not accusing them of rat effing him. Remember that we haven't forgotten that that wasn't very diplomatic. The facts are that he has been talking.

Like a first year arts student.

He has been spewing all sorts of absolute nonsense about Donald Trump and the whole Maga movement, and he's not going to be accepted because they know his form, they are not going to have anything like a decent working relationship with him. So for Peter Dutton to sort of qualify whether he would stay or go, I think is a little bit weak. I know he said, well, you know the relationship is beyond mending, then he has to go.

It's pretty clear.

It is exactly really you said that nobody loves Kevin rod Lake's former colleagues of the Liver Party, but nobody loves loves Kevin Rudd more than Kevin Rudd. So not forget that there. But you know, for Peter Dutton here, I think he needs to remember who here is, you know, running for the role of prime minister, and who is actually in the role of diplomatic Peter Dutton's being far too diplomatic, I think about that. Kevin Rudd I think has been a debacle as the US ambassador, and for

Can put in a requests quickly, Rady? Can I put in a request? Can Peter Dutton please get some new advises? Playing seriously, seriously, Peter Dutton should be out there saying we've got to get rid of Tomorrow, We've got to get rid of him. Peter Dutton will be talking to Professor and Plymber in a second about this, and he's got some very strong views on this. But we should be saying, Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton should be saying, we're

You've failed.

Now get out and get some proper what's the word I'm looking for, James back. I was going to say kahonas I was going to practice my Spanish, but anyway, back line into the liberal body so you can win.

My god, how hot is it? It is so exactly right, I mean it is. You know.

The thing is, we don't have a lot of time here. There's not a long time at all. And these are positions which should have been staked out years ago, really, like you know, around climate, and you've got all of this. You know, there's so much anger out there in the community about so many things.

Exactly.

We're talking to you a little bit later about how people in rural communities are absolutely furious about what's happening to their land and their communities because of net zero, the drive to put high voltage power lines through productive farmland, to turn productive farmland into wind farms and solar farms, and what it is doing to these people, these farmers and our agricultural security, which is our food security, which is our economic security, which is our national security.

And a lot we saw being heckled Rita on a couple of days ago out there in Woollongong. We're beautiful woo and Gong, wonderful, beautiful part of the world, as gorgeous beaches of jering Gong all down there, Jambreu and here you've got these clowns sticking these ridiculous windmills out there. Quite rightly, the public said no, thank you to Albo. There's one of the characters. Have a listen. Maybe you don't know.

The importance of the still industry for this electric My message is very clear, which has Webb got your back.

We support blue collar jobs. Know that we support still works.

Here.

I don't think people who are shoutings.

No, the people were shouting and represent real Australians. Yes, the people standing there in the group were the ones that were flown in by the PR group. I imagine that I don't know Rita.

Well, those offshore wind farms are enormously unpopular with anyone who's unlucky enough to have it thrust upon their community.

And James, you said, people in.

The regional areas are very alarmed about what's happening.

All of us should be alarmed.

Just because you live in the big cities and you don't drive out of a fifty kilometer radius too often, you should not be ignorant about what's happening.

Well, here's why, regional areas.

But here's why.

Here's why, because you know these communities, Yes, they're all getting torn apart by this stuff. But this whole net zero push everybody who lives in the cities. It's in the cities where we're being told, Hey, don't turn your air conditioner on on a hot day, don't run the

But also reads that net zero is the biggest tax you can put on every single aspects of business. These people complaining about, oh, Donald Trump's going to put on tariffs on this, tariffs ain't nothing. Net zero is lastly, much more amounts of money being crippling our industries, crippling our manufacturing than ever tariffs will be a problem. It's net zero that with that is what is destroying our

Right Well absolutely, and Tim Blair wrote a brilliant piece through the week about how all these lefties from Labor, Greens, the Teals upset about Trump's proposed tariffs on Australian still an aluminium.

You guys want a carbon tax.

This is essentially a teeny tiny carbon tax. You think you'd they'd be applauding it because suddenly all these greenies and lefties are pro fossil fuel advocates.

So it was very interesting you're.

Not suggesting their hypocrites on I can't wait to talk.

More about this with professor and Plym after the break can I just say one last thing on Kevin Rudd. You would think it would be working over time to repair relations, to try to redeem himselves in the eyes of the GOP.

No.

Inauguration day he was at an inauguration.

Board the Starlight Barber All the heavy hitters were just about every key Republican.

He was there for.

Less than an hour. He was there, barely talked to anybody.

Was there with Penny Wong, talked to Vivek Ramaswami, talked to a bunch of Australians who were there and.

Gone.

You would think, and an event like that where every sort of heavy hitter is in the under the same room, you would be working in the room from from start to finish, trying to just assure our greatest ally that I apologize for what I said. I don't know what I was thinking, but however you need to do to redeem yourself to be there, to be present, to show your supportive and you're on board.

But no that this week is sea Pack in America. That's the Seapack conference. You remember. Outsiders was live at the Australian Seaback. We had a great time and Seapack in America is next week. That is where all the Republican heavy hitters are. They'll all be there. That is that is the holy from.

The start to finish for an hour. Protect you were.

There exactly so we will be. Outsiders will be crossing live too Seapack next week chatting to Warren Mundane will be there, Andrew Cooper and maybe others as well. You never know. Hey, Kevin, how about you come on Outsiders and chat to us live from Seapack. There you go, mate, Let's see how keen you really are to get in there with the new American administration. Albou. Meanwhile, you know a great phone call you had there with Trump, albat

What the fun that must have been?

In shame I wasn't there.

Can you imagine the absolute laugh a minute?

It was a smoaking seremony. Moniy Ryan could have led the smoking seremary where they will breathe.

In chemical You're sorry for Anthony Albanize. It's not too often I would say this, but I actually feel sorry for the Prime minister. Can you imagine just being surrounded by those trainers for how long would that would have?

That?

How much fun were you hang out with your modique Ryan and Kylah till But you know, this is actually really interesting to me because what this tells me is that Albanezi is nervous. Nobody would subject themselves to the deals if they didn't think, oh my lord, I'm going to have to maybe make a deal with these people sometime in the next coming you know, weeks or a month or two to maintain my seats on the treasury benches.

So there's a real this, I think.

And it goes to something else that's going on here, which is that labor is now nervous apparently about.

A whole number seats here.

So yeah, so and this also confirms stuff that you hear if you talk to people of the Liberal Party about, you know, seats that they're confident about picking up. There's a number of seats and some of them include Gilbour and New South Wales been along in New South Wales seats in Victoria that we're all little robertson very important seats.

You know.

So there's seats there that are that now needs I think twenty seats when it is all right, but there I know also the Liberals are confidence about a number of other seats that aren't even on this list. So this goes to show just how concerned I think Labor is right now about their state at the coming election.

Yeah.

Interesting, Yeah, the definitely we've got to see. You know, the attack on the Teals is absolutely critical, but it's not, as Rita keeps saying, it's not all about pandering to the Teals. It's attacking the Teals on the points of principle as to why they're wrong. I still have my letter. I carry around my letter where the Teals all signed the letter demanding more financing going to ANOIR if there

I would go one step further. I do believe they're poison like the Greens. In fact, the Greens and the Tills is very little between them.

The Greens are just a little bit.

More radical, but they're both left of the Labor Party. And you would much rather have Labor govern in their own right than have to form any sort of a coalition with the Tills or the Greens, because that would be an even worse government than what we have seen in the last few years.

And speaking of toxic lefties, Sydney City Council is basically that's the clover More. Why the people of Sydney City voted this person back into power as mayor. Absolutely I cannot believe. But anyway, she's kind of moving towards some kind of BDS light policy, which Jewish leaders are very angry about.

James, Yeah, I mean, so this involves doing things like scrapping their contracts with Hewlett Packard, which has links to Israel. A number of companies I mean have links to Israel's and you know, it's ridiculous because so much software and computing technology is all developed in Israel. And this is again part of some weird BADS thing. I thought we had been done with the boycott devestment sanctions thing with

Why in the middle of.

The situation that we're in right now with anti Semitism in this country, you'd even think about this sort of thing, I think is just appalling.

Well, it's a Greens led motion. Are we surprised this is what they do? And we've got to really call out any local council any local government entity that wants to grandstand on national international issues, stay in your bloody lane. If you want to be in that world, then go stand for federal parliament. But if you're not good enough, if you're in local government level, then focus on.

How about they do something in said boycotting Israel. How about they do stuff to bring back nightlife and life into city. It's still a debacle. Oxtra Street to debacle. All those places are a debacle and you know they've done nothing to fix that. Why don't instead of saying, hey we're going to boycott Israel, why don't we say hey, we're going to make it easier for you to open a venue or do something and have some fun or build something.

But no, exactly, no, you're absolutely right. The Sydney. It's shocking in Sydney what they've done the Sydney. The ABC costs Australians more than a Netflix subscription and forty percent of Australians don't bother watching the ABC. I would have thought it was higher than that personally, but this is again, where are the liberals. Why aren't the liberals saying we are going to put the ABC onto a subscription model in the cities and we're going to only fund the regions.

Well, but I'll tell you so.

You know, it's so ridiculous too though, because even in the regions, you know, the readers get sky.

You know, there's a lot of sky where they don't.

But but but you know, and you talk to people in the regions, they're all watching US, They're watching Scott They're not watching ABC. You look the latest viewership numbers of the ABC. You know, they're falling off a cliff. That management there has no idea what they're doing. They're on this huge government teap where they don't have any you know, incentive for competition.

You know.

The funny thing is, for some reason, I actually have a Netflix subscription of us some signed up to watch some one point.

I don't watch Netflix. I don't watch the ABC.

But at least I can at some point get around to canceling by Netflix if don't want to pay for it.

Exactly, it is absolutely abhorrent that we are all forced to pay for this activist so called news service that does not serve the needs of the Australian community, that does makes a joke of its charter every single day. And I don't think enough is said about this. The ABC has a charter. It's not like Sky Channel ten, Channel nine. They can be as left as right or in between as they want to be. The ABC, being government funded, is obliged by law to be balanced and.

To live up to its charter.

It refuses to, and both sides of government, both sides of politics just kind of look the other way. Now obviously it's Labour's interest to look the other way, but the Coalision has been absolutely gutless on tackling this. Is in fact that increased funding for the ABC. The most they did for a short period was freeze funding and the ABC had a three year tantrum about it and then they increased it again.

How do you justify that? How do you not have some accountability?

Well, you can't justify it. And if you look at the logic of it. So the new figures are revealed that the ABC lost one million viewers or listeners in a single year with television and radio rates ratings plunging, so that means the tax burden is increased because fewer people are watching it, So those people who aren't watching it are still paying for it, which means we're all paying for something that fewer and fewer people are watching.

You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan Dean, James Mora, and I'm Reachapaney. And soon we'll be talking all things net Zany with the great Professor in Plymer. But first to the thoroughly hopeless Albanezi government and the short sighted opposition who are backing anti free speech measures with all sorts of ugly consequences to supposedly tackle the anti Semitism scourge instead of just ensuring that existing laws are implemented now.

It's taken a battering.

Since October ninth, twenty twenty three, when footage of anti Israeli protest is chanting gas the Jews, or as some claim, where are the Jews went around the globe. Since then, a number of incidents have reinforced the perception that we have a growing antisemitism problem in our mids. Sadly, Jews around the world now perceive Australia very differently to just

I don't know.

Approximately five minutes after becoming law, a proposal to tougher workplace laws to encourage universities to sack anti Semitic staff is hair brained.

To say the least.

We already have laws in place, including against intimidation and incitement to violence, to tackle the anti Semitism scourge. We need authorities to actually start implementing these existing laws rather than creating new ones. So effeckless politicians can pretend that they have tackled this issue.

Free speech is.

A fundamental human right. We cannot afford to trample on it further and pretend it's an easy fix to an insidious problem that deserves a far more serious response. The Coalition in particular cannot afford to push legislation that is not in line with liberal values.

One would have.

Hoped that Peter Dutton would have learned from the Turnbull government's desire ustrous appointment of leftist activist Julianeman Grant as e Safety Commissioner, an office that was remember created to protect vulnerable children online but quickly morphed into an activist outfit that has used taxpayer funds to silence Australians sharing mainstream views online, including statements of fact like.

Men cannot breastfeed.

Curbing the free speech of all Australians will do nothing to meaningfully address the deep seated anti Semitism that exists in small but loud segments of our society, and talking about the Coalition compromising its core values, they cannot afford to have their chances that the upcoming federal election weakened by the tiny band of smaller liberals who continue to

O Lydia Thorpe and a number of.

Liberal senators, Yes, Liberal senators standing against an inquiry into radical experimental gender treatments on children.

Looking just an inquiry, that's all this was.

And these are treatments that have been stopped in other countries, including the UK under a Labor government.

So let's name.

These five senators who fail to back the motion. We've got Andrew Bragg from New South Wales. We've got Richard Colbeck from Tasmania, Maria Kovicic from New South Wales. They all join Labor and the Greens to vote against emotion, while two others and Rusten from South Australia Jane Hume

Have a look at this later, stad.

Stronger people are hard to kill.

Stronger people are harder to kill games. Stronger people are harder to kill.

Don't you love that?

What a departure from the lunacy we had just a couple of years ago. This is how they tried to recruit under Biden and guess what, it didn't go too well.

Although he had a fairly typical childhood took ballet, played violin.

I also marched for equality.

I like to think I've been defending freedom from an early age.

Can you are to take the subtle difference there? Just a subtle difference.

And you know what, even before the new Ads, as soon as Donald Trump secured his second term, recruitment numbers went through the roof. You see, Trump was clear about his vision for the country, his vision for the armed forces, and his triumph saw a big surgeon Americans joining the army. Indeed, in December twenty twenty four, the US Army had its best recruiting number in twelve years. In January that had

Excellent reta. Well, we're now joined by geologists Professor Ian Plymer live here in the studio. Ian, great to have you here, as always tell me about that tie of yours. It's caught my eye and the viewers will want to know the full story. There I've set you an opening here.

To mar A Lago Club tie.

I've been to mar Lago a couple of times, and I wear this tie on important occasions today, as she accept of course.

And you were most recently there for the inn.

I was in Washington for the inauguration. It started with a rally, a pretty cold night, and it was interesting to see the profile of the people. These were disenfranchised people. These were people who were suffering from the high electricity costs, from unemployment, from basically a deluded leader. And these people really are getting supported by a leader called Trump. And he's a phenomenon. We will not see the likes of another Trump again in our lives, an absolute phenomenon. And

Now he's promised, he's already pulled out of the Paris Agreement, he's abandoned at zero. What can the coalition learn from Donald Trump?

In Well, I can learn an enormous amount. The US, China, India, they're not in Paris. We once had the cheapest, most reliable energy systems in the world. We had coal giving us very cheap power in Victoria, a little bit more expensive in New South Wales and Queensland and Western Australia and South Australia.

But we had cheap power.

We have lost that because people have followed an ideological path. And this ideological path allegedly is underpinned by science. Now, if you follow the science, there is no science that demonstrates that human emissions.

Drive global warming. Why are we doing it?

So we're seeing countries.

Like Germany and the UK go out backwards because they're following this renewables path. Trump has used something that's very very rare. It's called common sense, and going down the path was saying we have cheap coal. We have plenty of oil, not much uranium in the US, but they imported from Canada and the US as only following the cheapest path for energy that leads to a big manufacturing industry. We have no manufacturing industry now in this country because

Yes, the boy at the back, I'm.

Going to ask you about this because I want your author I want your opinion on you know, what should Peter Dutton then be said, because he has said in the past he's going to stick around in Paris because you know, while we're in it, it is too hard to change or whatever. Yet, what I'm really interested in, you know, I don't know geology, but I do know something about economics and business. BP has said we are

From net zero.

We are going to invest in fossil projects again, because that's where the money is. And if we don't have energy, we're not going to have economies. Why do you think the Coalition seems to be trying to garner votes in these sort of inner city seats where they still care about Paris, when it's out of the regions that people are saying, no, we've got to get out of this because this is destroying our communities, it's destroying our economy, it's strong our future.

Well ready to touch on it in her editorial, the Parliamentary Liberal Party has wits. They're in the Senate and they're in the Laoah House and it's very hard for the leader sometimes to lead on matters of principle which are going to be for the benefit of the country, when you've got wet who are in the wrong party.

Mister Dutton should lead.

He should say, as a matter of principle, we want people to have cheap electricity in this country. We don't want these jaw dropping electricity bills that people are getting because of renewables.

We want to have energy.

Supporting industry and creating jobs. And he has to lead, and if he doesn't want to lead, he can then say, well, we have the biggest economy in the world just dropping that zero. We have growing economies like China and India that are not having that zero. China's building coal power stations like they're going out of fashion. We need to rebuild coal fired power stations. We need to have nuclear. We need to have a huge amount of baseload power with a peak load coming from gas and from hydro.

To bring renewable energy.

From somewhere out in the Donga into the cities, and they can't operate equipment underneath those power lines, so they've lost acreage and they've lost areas which produce food.

This is an absent travesty.

A lot of the votes are in the areas around the edge of cities and in semi rural areas. Mister Darton should think callously and think, I want to chase the traditional labor vote. And these people are being destroyed by labor policies. Why should we have the Libs as a labor light, which currently they are.

Well, we've seen that political realignment in the US, we've sent it in the UK, we've sent it in Australia. The Liberal Party seems to be the last bunch of people to know that there has been a switch.

Those inner city affluent areas are going.

Left and the working middle class are increasingly going right. What about the argument they may put forward, while we don't need to leave Paris, we can still have these net zero target it's.

Because we'll get there via nuclear. What's your response to.

That, Well, that argument is invalid because nuclear is going to take a long time. The second thing is you can leave Paris very very easily. It's no difficulty at all. And the third thing is we have to think of the punter, and the punter gets an absolute shock when they look at the electricity bill. The QUICKI you can bring that down, the better the more coal we can put into the system, the better we have coal fired

It can be done.

Oh a boy at the back of the cheeky one.

Sir, sir, we saw Albow being heckled by about windmills. Now Donald Trump has said that's it. No more windmills. They kill whales. They're inefficient. If you believe in the carbon nonsense, they create as much as they suppose. We save. Albo is being heck. You're right that labor is so vulnerable because there's so many traditional labor, blue collar supporterers

Well, Bowen is supporting China with solar panels and windmills, and they're being supported at our expense. It won't work because the sun doesn't shine all the time. It's pretty obvious that we have wind routs, so we can't provide electricity twenty four to seven. The second thing is that the extra grunt that you get from wind and sol is not that that you get from coal and nuclear and gas. So if you want power for an industrial economy, seabreezes and sunbeams don't do it.

They don't have enough energy.

Now, mister Bowen is a very interesting character.

Because he's the best thing the liberals of God, and.

He should stay there.

And following this ridiculous ideology with people in marginal seats looking at the electricity bill saying I'm going to vote on my electricity bill, and that can be capitalized on by the opposition.

It's a vote winner.

Turt it on that electricity on that you know, that that grunt you talked about about the electricity. It seems to be also just bizarre that at the same time they're doing all of this net zero stuff, whi's going to reduce our electricity, building produced power up. They're forcing us all or trying to force people into evs, many of which again come from China, and I was just reading earlier.

There's a whole.

New range of Chinese evs that come flooding the market here because of the way they wrote the laws, so you can have hybrids get the tax benefit, but only the evs. This seems like we are trying to make everything more electric while we're making our electricity less reliable.

It seems suicidal to me.

Well, I didn't know outside the studio. You're black two door V eight Mustang, so obviously you have an evs are really not for a country like Australia unless you do a couple of kilometers in the city and that's it. So evs are very expensive. They depreciate very quickly. We don't have a reliable power supply for them. If you dent underneath them, you basically have to throw the whole vehicle out. If you dent your Mustang, well it'll probably

Yet they are more away from it now.

Yeah, oh dear, this is what you mentioned, the two hundred and seventy five dollars gift that we never got the reduction in our inch bils. Never mind that my bills, and I would imagine the bills of many of the people watching have shot up by well, in my case,

Well, it's a wonderful argument they can use. Where's my two hundred and seventy five dollars? You were promised this two hundred and seventy five. What has happened to your electricity bills gone up? These people are destroying your jobs, they're destroying your income, they're destroying your family, They're destroying this country. They should be taking the line of attacking very savagely that renewables don't work. Every time we put in more renewables.

The cost of electricity goes up.

It doesn't become more reliable because if you have no sun, it doesn't matter how much you've got there, you're not going to get more power. If you've got no wind, it doesn't matter how much you've got there, you won't get more power.

We should stop calling it renewable and start calling it intermission.

It is.

The great thing about renewables is that the subsidition just keep coming, so they are renewable.

Okay, tell us about investment. Because you work for many many years in the mining industry around the world. You know how mining investments and a big business manufacturing investment what they're looking for. Can you please explain the absolute carnage that net zero is doing to international investors. Now that you can look at Trump, they can go to America, they can go to China or India, all around the world without being burdened by these prices.

What investment is very fickle, It moves very quickly. We had a couple of years ago the Japanese ambassador commented that this is becoming a very expensive country and uncertain countries who invest in and the Japanese have been very big investors in this country, and he was right. Japanese money has gone elsewhere. We do not invest in our own country. Despite the fact we've got trillions in super we do not.

Invest in it.

We have major projects that need money that create jobs, create taxation.

We don't invest in our own country.

We have American money, Japanese money, Korean money, money from the UK.

And that is going elsewhere.

And in my field, if I have a geological idea and then do all the drilling and put everything into practice and go through all the economic evaluations from that idea until we start to earn money. It's twenty five years, so you cannot change the investment rules overnight, which is what labor is doing, because it'll be our children and grandchildren who suffer from that, and they don't care. They're only interested in the three year term. And this is why you can not vote for someone that is not

Step up lives in climate Professor Plymber. Always great to chat to you here in the classroom, here in Professor Bline in classroom on Oursider's fantastic, thank you so much, we'll see you soon, and coming up after the break a bit more and net Zany madness, wacademia left you lunacy or here on Outsiders back in a text, Yes, welcome back to net Zany, the crazy world of net zero, where we now learn in America they're facing what they're

James, you know, it's so funny to me when you see these stories about you know, snow oblivion or Snowmageddon or whatever they call it, you know whatever, they have these big blizzards, because for years and years and years we've been told, oh, children who were born ten years ago, we'll never see snow again because of global warming. And you know, it's it's the whole sort of double game that they play. It's like, oh, well, there's not gonna be a snow because of global warming. Oh we've had

That's what we had to go from global warming to climate change to explain.

All the absolutely never forg about six months when they tried to make a climate chaos. It sounded like some sort of superhero climate chaos.

We had even a more hyperbolic one, didn't we fromm Yes.

Global boiling, boiling, boiling, global boiling occurring with and it's also not forget I wish we actually had the grab up.

But do you recall a certe in Australia the year saying, you know, our dams will never.

Fit and it is marketing and Queensland at the moment and the Queenslanders were told, along with the rest of Australia back in the early two thousands. We were told that's it, folks, it's permanent drought now because of engine and we spend people White people buy this garbage. Is utterly, utterly.

Belo Why do they think people have the memories of goldfish that they don't remember what they saw us they told us thirty seconds.

Before, because so many do, and the media works over time to make sure that's the case. If the media were honest practitioners here, they would be holding these predictions, hauling these people, making these predictions accountable.

But they they just bury them. What they call it memory holding.

Whatever.

But what is interesting about this We talked with Professor Plimer there about how Macquarie Bank here in Australia. Apparently they were quite quiet and timid about it. They should have been yelling it from the rafters, yelling it from the rooftops. We're getting out of net zero. Invest in our bank because we're smart enough to realize we're out of that zero. That's what Macquarie should have done. But of course the bedwet is on the Macquary board route.

But it is fascinating. You know, right now this is part of the Trump effect. The Trump offender is not only with this, but also you see this with company after company the United States. Google I think was one of the most recent was all say, all of that DEI stuff, all of the you know, all of the preferential treatment based on race and sex and gender and identity and all that, that's all gone. Now everybody has realized suddenly, you know, this is kind of like the

It's over, it's done. And I think that's part of Australia.

Yet, well not in Australia we are again the outlier.

But the looking at what the money USAID was distributing, where that's going, It really is just established. So much of this left wing agenda, this so called progressive war insanity that we've all been dealing with. It's not organic, it's not grassroots. It's very much fed by a small group of activists who have relied on taxpayer funds, using our own money to shove this.

Crack down question the USA, I D so the new climate change guy, sorry Lee Zellen, who's the new climate energy guy, and Trump's regime has said that he's just canceled wait for this Reta and James a fifty million dollar Biden era environmental justice Climate Justice Alliance thing which was all about climate justice travels through a free Palestine.

So this is well, that's more than the revelations about us. It have been shocking because has been this huge slush fund for the left. There's this amazing thing here that's happened now. If you go and you look at real estate listings around Washington, d C. They have been flooded with new listings of billion dollar plus hobbs that are on the market because suddenly all of this money, all of this griff has been cut.

And all the people on the boards of all these NGOs who've been sitting there taking tax dollars pays. I bet it's the same in Australia. And I can't wait for just Enterprice to get into par into government and be in a position which Dunton has promised, where they will start doing the same thing here and investigating government inefficiency. The Canbra swamp. We have the highest paid public servants in the world.

It's to have the appetite to actually tackle it. We talked about the ABC before they know what the ABC does. They know it's costs over a billion dollars a year. They've made absolutely no.

Well, I have dropped some character from the end, so looking for you finally because he had had some dubious artworks. I'm glad about that tiny little win. But anyway, we take the small wins where we can. Back after the break in a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Triage Nurse Panahee, Locum Register Morrow and myself fake doctor Dean. The story of the two nurses at Bankstown Hospital is no laughing matter, well not for any of us who

You know what, man good, Harry wo Man pretty good?

Are you a nurse?

A doctor?

I'm a doctor moment?

A doctor for what?

In hospital?

What?

What? What? What? What about you? Where you're from?

I'm from Israel, from the whole land.

You know what, I'm gonna be really honest with you, all right, I'm gonna be really honest with you. You actually got a really really beautiful eyes. But I'm so upset that Israeli like eventually you're gonna get killed and you're gonna go to Jehanna Mia. I think it's pretty honest. I should stay in this, in this world for longer.

Why do you think? Why do you think I'm gonna get killed.

Because Sarla one day God will maybe because I served in the IDEF That's why that definitely correct, that's the reason, because I served in the idea of what's the what's the problem with that?

What's the issue with that?

I killed innocent paper.

That was protecting my country.

So you kill innocent people to protect your country? What what kind of soul do you have? You have no soul?

In the war, people die as you know, they started the war. Hundred who started?

Okay, your time will who started?

Who started this war?

You guys?

Who elected Hamas? Who elected Hamas?

It's Palestine country.

Not.

What her name.

We're talking politely here, We're talking politely here.

One day, one day.

One day, one day, time will come and you will die the most.

You sprayed hate, we sprayed positivity, We spread protection, We spread.

This intimate pimate.

And you spread when the time comes, how are you doctors?

I want you to remember?

Have okay, okay, I have a question though, all right, all right, for sure, I.

Have a question.

Though.

I have a question.

Let's say let's say an Israeli.

God forbid them.

I won't treat them, I'll kill them.

You'll kill them.

So if an Israeli is in the in Australia and that's forbid, something happened to him and he comes to your hospital, would you kill him?

Okay, you have no idea how many Israeli A dog came to this hospital and.

Nahanna, As far as I'm concerned, the unedited version, that version is even more damning than the original edited version. In the edited version, you could perhaps imagine that some kind of heated exchange or provocation had occurred, that it may be fired off the anti Semitic trade, but that clearly didn't happen. What is so chilling in the unedited version is how casual and ordinary two nurses in their comments,

These two people do not represent the view that is held in the Muslims community. The majority of the Muslim's community. They have condemned what they have done and they don't agree with it, and we don't hold these view whatsoever. We would like to be part of the society we enjoy, or we're living in Australia or we're offspring living in here and we'll want to be part of nation building.

Welcome those comments and I hope they are widespread, But unfortunately there's plenty of evidence that Dr Reefe is perhaps unaware of how widespread the hatred of Jews is in various Australian Muslim communities. Obviously, not every public health worker who supports a Palestinian state or demonstrates against the war in Gaza wants to go around murdering Jews or wishes

Of colleagues of mine for Nurses and Midlife for Palestine in October twenty twenty three. Maintain your rage, continue to stand on it super In short, a sinus terrorists and their reprehensible actions are held.

To it, it counts.

Nor if I were Jewish would I be particularly thrilled to be triaged by this character? And if I were Jewish and I met this security guy at the emergency door of the hospital with his political pro Palestine badges on full display, I might decide to go home and see my GP instead. Speaking on this network last week, Michael Kroger made a terrifying claim.

I just saw an email from someone who was going to have an operation there. A Jewish man have an operation there a few years ago under the Liberal government, by the way, not under men's. He canceled his operation at Bankstown Hospital because a friend of his who worked at the hospital said, if a Jewish don't come here, they spit on the food of the Jews before it's delivered. They don't do mandatory post ops. They leave their beds soiled for as long as they possibly can. They make

So again we must ask how commonplace is this stuff? Far too common, that's for sure. One brave nurse, Sharon Stollier, raised the alarm about precise this level of anti semitism within New South Wales hospitals months ago, but instead of the health bureaucrats doing something about it, she became the subject of multiple complaints and the regulators ended up harassing her and investigating her.

I raise the alarm about this not long after October seventh happened when nurses and midwives were chanting from the River to the Sea while wearing New Southwest Health uniforms. I wrote an open letter to nurses and midwives explained that this chant is a call for the annihilation of Jews and that they should not be shouting this genocidal chat. I ask for the end of a genocidal chat by

Unbelievable and the process is always is the punishment. She gets punished. Dare to criticize antie Israeli extremism and you

Well, Rowan, I, honestly I was a little bit disappointed what Trump said. They got to release all the hostages by noon. I'm thinking to myself, high noon. You know, that's a phrase that resonates with Americans, but it didn't happen. The Hamas is proceeding with this, you know, dribs and drabs, a hostage here, a hostage there. And what Trump said today is that he's leaving it up to the Israelis. If the Israelis want to unleash hell on the gozens,

And what's the thinking about how they will respond.

Well, honestly, I don't know.

I meant Ya, who's been under tremendous domestic pressure to try to bring the hostages home and to some extent that has impeded Israel's war efforts there in Gaza. And one thing we don't know is how many of the hostages are even still alive. It's a terrible, terrible situation, and Yetnya, who has been trying to deal with it, manage it for a long time now, and I'm not

Them, and President Trump has also said he wants to see an end to the war in Ukraine. He's already had discussions with Vladimir Putin. President Zelenski has just tweeted that he's begun working with President Trump's team and can already see the success is attainable, and he thanks America.

Can you see that war ending in Ukraine?

I think it's going to end, reader. I think both countries wanted to end. It's been a disaster. The Russians thought they would they would march right into Kiev and they failed, and then the Ukrainians thought they were going to win a brilliant victory, and then they got stymied. For a long time. Now, it's basically been trench warfare, close to a million casualties. It's been a disastrous conflict. Both sides want out. I think Trump is going to give them the excuse that they need to end the war.

James and just bea at least to Secretary of State Marco Rubio. And I never thought i'd expect him to be doing such a good job on this portfolio, but here we are. He's just landed in Tel Aviv just a few hours ago. What message do you think that he is going to be delivering to the Netanyahu government about America's expectations for a ending this conflict, but be also ending Hamas's threat to continually undermine peace and stability in the entire region.

Well, I think Rubio's message is going to be one of unqualified support. Unlike the Biden administration, which was constantly threatening neat Yaho and leaning on the Israelis not to proceed effectively in their war, which Gaza of course started. Israel didn't start this war. I think Rubio is there to assure neat Yaho in his administration is Security Cabinet that the United States is behind them all the way.

And of course John Rubio's next stop is Saudi Arabia, so we should see a strengthening of the Abraham Accords happening there, maybe a full blown alliance. Who knows, but tell us about all the panic that is set in from all the lefty organizations, the NGOs, as Elon Musk rips into them and takes away all the amounts of money that have been fed to these dubies, dodgy, transgenderal

Well, it's glorious, isn't it. The Democrats are basically admitting that they are in favor of waste and corruption and fraud and the American people. I think it's been quite a revelation to see where so much of our money has been going, and to see the role that's played by the permanent bureaucracy and these agencies. These agencies are to be found nowhere in the Constitution and the kinds of things you're talking about, the trans opera in Colombia,

You know.

They just give billions and billions and billions of dollars to these agencies, and the left wingers who run these agents, the permanent staff of these agencies, distribute these many billions of dollars to support their friends on the left and to support their ideological causes. And I think we've known this for a long time, but the details are shocking.

I mean even I have been.

Shocked, frankly by the extent of the corruption that is now coming to light.

Well, apparently James was just saying before the property prices falling rapidly plummeting in Washington, d C. As only nngas set off and get out. So John, you might want to pick up a quick little foggy bottom use I see yourself there. Great to chat to you as always, John Heindereiker, coming up up to the bright James, don'tkey Vick. We got Ralph talking to us from Europe as well. I can take.

Hello.

You're watching outside us with your host Srita panihy Row Indan and of course I'm James Morrow. Well, as far as I'm going, there's only one big story out of Washington this week, and it's actually Washington when it goes

Now.

Vance was the US's representative at the Munich Security Conference, but he did not deliver the expected polite speech full of approved nostrums and talking points about Ukraine and fighting the far right, whatever that means. Instead, Vance came offering a sort of and I think there's only one word for this, an intervention. Yes, it was an intervention like you might do with a family member with an addiction problem.

Only hear the.

Family member wasn't an uncle or a not or a son with a drinking problem or a nasty coke habit, but instead it was Europe from which our shared Western civilization sprung, but which has lately developed its own terrible

This is chilling.

Two years ago, the British government charged Adam Smith Connor, a fifty one year old physiotherapist and an Army veteran, with the heinous crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting with anyone, just silently praying on his own.

Now, the officers were not moved.

Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer zones law, which criminalized a silent prayer and other actions that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, a one off, crazy example of a badly written law being enacted against a single person.

But no.

This last October, just.

Few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty of thought crime. And Britain and across Europe, free speech.

I fear is in retreat.

Amazing stuff. And by the way, if you think of being hyperbolic, here's the letter that Vance refers to that people in Scotland got, warning them that indeed a private place such as a house could be considered a prayer free zone if it was too close to an abortion clinic.

And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the Cold Wars winners. I look to Brussels, where EU Commission Commissars Warren citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what

But that's not the only European problem that Vance called out. Vice President was also brutal about the policies of some countries, particularly Germany, that have allowed themselves to de industrialize.

Germany is the one country, maybe in NATO, that did not follow the stupid Washington consensus and allow their country to be de industrialized during the seventies, eighties, and nineties. And yet at the very moment that Putin is more and more powerful, where the Russian army is invading European countries in mass, this is the point at which Germany starts to de industrialize. Look at the number of people working and manufacturing in Germany now versus ten years ago.

It can't do that without industry.

Now, I'd go further and say it is amazing that Germany has inflicted on itself the same rustic rustication that some in the US government wanted to force on them. And thankfully they didn't succeed after World War II. But it was on this subject of mass migration that Vance really opened up.

The number of immigrants who entered the EU from non EU countries doubled between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two alone, and of course it's gotten much higher since. And we know the situation.

It didn't materialize in a vacuum.

It's the result of a.

Series of conscious decisions made by politicians all over the continent and others across the world over the span of a decade.

Vance noted that just the day before his speech, there was another Islamist car ramming attack in Munich, the very city where he was speaking.

We saw the horrors wrought by these decisions yesterday in this very city, and of course I can't bring it up again without thinking about the terrible victims who had a beautiful winter day in Munich ruined. Our thoughts and prayers are with them and will remain with them. But why did this happen in the first place. It's a terrible story, but it's one we've heard way too many times in Europe and unfortunately too many times in the United States as well.

An asylum seeker, often a young man in his mid twenties, already known to police, rams a car into a crowd and shatters a community.

How many times must.

We suffer these appalling setbacks before we change course and take our shared civilization in a new direction.

Yeah, Vance said European leaders were ignoring what people were urgently crying out for to be heard and to have their votes read, their voices respected, rather than being blamed for having the wrong ideas or for supposedly being influenced by outside voices from beyond their own shores. Have a listen to this, and note at the end there's the name of an old friend of this program.

Here.

Have a listen.

I believe the dismissing people, dismissing their concerns, or worse yet, shutting down media, shutting down elections or shutting people out of the political process protects nothing. In fact, it is the most surefire way to destroy democracy. And speaking up and expressing opinions isn't election interference, even when people express views outside your own country, and even when those people are very influential.

And trust me, I say this with all humor. If American democracy can survive ten years of Funeburg scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon musk.

Ah.

Yes remember Redda.

Yes, it was fine for her to bully leaders around the world and terrified children, including here in Australia, and tell them to go on strike for the climate.

But Elon musk Oh no mean tweets incoming.

Look, the whole speech was an absolute toward a force, a banger. But what Vance was saying to the Europeans is this, You are making yourselves unrecognizable culturally, politically, socially, and running against all the values of liberty and enlightenment that once made you European and which gave the world the gift of your civilization. And now you expect to be defended by America even as you run yourself down.

If you're running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you, nor, for that matter, is there anything that you can do for the American people who elected me and elected President Trump.

How perfectly put, Europe is running in fear of its own voters. And it was again, I say this again an intervention. Yet as the saying goes, there are none so blind as those who will not see. The Europeans in the audience were horrified to cop this lecture from this upstart colonial here's left wing German defense minister Boris Pistorius.

This democracy that was just called into question by the Hughes vice president, and not just the German democracy, but Europe as a whole. He spoke of the annulment of democracy, and if I understood him correctly, he compares the condition of Europe with the condition that prevails in some authoritarian regimes. Ladies and gentlemen, this is not acceptable.

And everyone clapped.

Well, they may be cheering him now, but it is Vance who was in the right here, and in a few days time, Germany will go to the polls and the right wing AfD is looking to be in the box seat, while authorities try to do everything in their power to smother that party's vote. As ordinary Germans become increasingly fed up with crime, migration, terrorism, and the running

Great stuff, Thanks James. Well, someone who will never be silenced is Ralph Sholhammer over there in Europe. Ralph, Great, just speak to you. You're there on the wall somewhere coming upside. Was here in the room a moment ago. Now there you are, Ralph. We found you.

We found you.

I thought, maybe that's a Pistorius had cut the links so.

That we couldn't talk to you, no doubt.

Great back, So Ralph, tell us who's going to win the German election? And what does this mean for the Ukraine war?

Well, I think one of the broader things that you did not mention in your wonderful segment was that, mister Vanze also is that the biggest threat for Europe is not.

China or Russia.

It is breaking with its own values and forgetting its own values. And this is what we see at the moment of us speaking here. Austria is currently really we had our own tervist attack just five hours ago. Yet again the migrant, this time from Syria, has killed one boy age fourteen and injured four other people. So this is now happening almost on a daily basis. The Spectator recently published a paper saying that one hundred and twenty

Now we've seen also in Munich where JD. Evans gave that great speech, just within hours another alleged terrorist attack a car, I mean, where a mother and a two year old child were killed, dozens more injured. How much of an impact is that event having as far as discussions leading up to the election.

Well, it will have an impact on the election. But due to the electoral system in Germany, the problem is the AfD is not going to get over fifty one percent, so they will come in second. And the quote unquote conservatives who are not real conservatives, that are pretty much like Richie Suna's Conservatives were in the United Kingdom. But of course most people don't indulge in politics all the

Well, Ralph, here's the thing that I don't understand, and break it down for you. For the last fifteen twenty years, it has been the elite desire to have open borders in Europe and import huge numbers of people from the Islamic world or the Third world. Why is this particular issue so dear to the elites. The one way they could easily stop the AfD and stop far right parties if they said, yes, we will have controls on migration.

Well, you know the answer.

I think you're just too shy to say it because for them, it is atonement for the supposed sins of the past that the West has committed.

This is the very reason.

But every time when you turn against it, they say you must be a Nazi because for them, opening up the borders is what they believe is the way to make good for the horrific things the West, and particularly in this case Germany, which is why it's even more pronounced in Germany than in other places, that this is the way how you can make up for things of the past. That everybody who is against that form of atonement then must be by definition a Nazi.

It's completely absurd.

It's a form of I would say delusion as a psychological disease if you want. But this is how they think. This is why you constantly immediately have the reference to the Nazi time with everything we saw it now with JD. Vans's speech Bill Crystal, who I think is a grifter, but that's a separate area that the speech would have sounded better in the original German, right, So it's immediately

I mean to say that about a man like JD.

Vance who's married to a Indian and American woman who's got biracial children. To try to paint him with some sort of a Nazi white supremacist is just so disgusting. But we are seeing this center right wave throughout Europe, from Italy to Finland.

The right wing parties are.

Doing much better they have been, But is there an appetite there to actually tackle the left wing bureaucracy that is pushing all these agendas we're seeing with the Trump administration, they are just going after the bureaucracy and making sure that they're not going to frustrate their efforts to implement their policies. Is that happening in Europe as well, where those right center right parties are availing.

Well, don't forgets the long march through institutions of the left started in the late sixties, early seventies, and they didn't gain full control up until the nineties. So my fear, of course is we don't have that much time. So the change of the debureaucracy and even more importantly the judiciary.

And this is I think what he has realized. Great to hear Bismarck quest before and outside is that's the first Ralph, Ralph Sholhammer, Great to chat to you as always live from Vienna there and thanks Ralph for staying up so late to chapter's what's happening in Europe? Will teating on top of that coming up after the break. Candra clown Show in a tick, roll up, roll up, step right this way. It's the wackiest show in town.

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Dear, But when it comes to romancing, the view as Albo was just warming up. Well, congratulations, Prime minister. But speaking of prime ministerial love affairs, in these days of Elon Musk and his Doge Department uncovering governmental bureaucratic largesse on an unimaginable scale to politically aligned non government organizations, one can't help but fondly remember those other prime ministerial love affairs, such as the love affair between Julia Gillard

Hmmm, but but what's this?

Even more prime ministerial roma answering with the Clintons. In twenty fourteen, Tony Abbotts short lived government topped up the Clinton coffers with another one hundred and forty million dollars of Ossie taxpayers money, including twenty seven million to aid initiatives to run through something called the Clinton Health Access Initiative.

The real world.

Much like the strange love affair between Australian prime ministers and the Clinton's and the love affair between Camber and big bureaucracy. It appears the Fab four got it wrong.

Money can buy you love, money.

Beautiful Julia Gilard Frez speaking of Julia hyperbol but Rache, you have some more hyperbol love for us to tell.

I think this is just absolutely blowing up on social media. It appears that Elon Musker's father his thirteenth child with a lady called Ashley Saint Clair. She is a conservative blogger, but things have gone sour between the pair. She's the one who made this public and he hasn't confirmed it, nor have his people confirmed it, so we're assuming this is true. It's been reported widely now, but it is going to cause all sorts of interest and in the.

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