Outsiders | 11 May

A lot of its outside. Good morning and welcome to Outsiders, the show that champions the outsider, that person who is not afraid to challenge the orthodoxy, even in the face of being canceled and censored by the authoritarian left. But what happens to those guests? We have champions such as the epidemiologists too, we we alone gave a platform to during the draconian COVID years. And who is demonized even in the Australian Senate. Do they disappear into shame and obscurity? Quite the opposite.

This is a historic day the conduct of this dangerous kind of function research which aims at taking pathogens and making them more very more transmissalong humans. Many scientists believe as we're responsible for the COVID pandemic.

Yes, that was our frequent Outsider's guest during COVID doctor J.

Battaya Batsataria Baticharia.

Oh we love him.

He was demonized by the Australian Center, demonized by the Biden administration, and now he's a top member of the Trump administration.

There's always a danger that in doing this research it might leak out just.

By accident even and cause a pandemic.

Any nation that engages in this research endangers their own population as well as the world, as we saw during the COVID pandemic.

Yes, that's right.

This week saw doctor j Badicharia in the Oval Office alongside Donald Trump as he signed that executive order banning all funding for dangerous gain of function research in certain nations.

This executive order puts in place of framework to make sure that the public has a say that if.

Such a risk is being taken.

That only scientists along won't be able to decide that that in fact, the publicans saying no, don't take this risk.

And someone else who has gone on to great things since first appearing on Outsiders many years ago as an unknown outsider, a fresh face nobody knew. In fact, it was her first appearance ever on Sky News Australia. Was a young mum from the Northern Territory. Her name just

Yes over due.

I think it's precisely what we need to see from the Nationals. The Nationals did well at this election campaign, unlike their coalition partners who did horribly. As we've been talking about, it's kind of amusing to hear the likes of the Greens talk about the Liberals becoming Maga extremist, right Trumpian. When the Liberals went into this election with smaller liberal policies.

Where they were labor like.

This is what their biggest donors are telling them, are saying, we're pulling our money out because if we wanted the labor like political party, we've already got one. We don't need another imitation of Verneba well, well, yeah, so this every time the Liberals go into an election, whether it's at state level or federal level, and they run on a smaller liberal policies where they try to veer to the center or to the left, and they get absolutely smashed.

You're too far right, you need to go more left.

It is incredibly just asinine. We see it every single time. I've seen it in Victoria last three elections. And let's hope they learn the lessons and we don't have another smaller liberal moderate Malcolm turnbullesque in a skirt leading the Liberal Party. Matt Canavan, I think is precisely what the Nationals need and it will give them some clear policy direction, particularly when it comes to the crucial issue of net zero.

Absolutely, James, Yeah.

I mean, look, I'm glad reader that you mentioned the Nationals and their performance in this election, and I'm glad that you mentioned Malcolm Turnable because to me, there's a great analogue between what just happened here in twenty sixteen. Now, the Liberals did not lose government, but they barely hung on, and they only hung on and it killed Malcolm Turnable. Through his entire premiership. That only with the fact that the Nats held every single one of their seats and

Try to this election.

Well he tried maybe a little bit, but the problem was that there was no articulation of clear liberal values. And the thing is, liberal values are actually very straightforward. They're about liberty, they're about aspiration. They're about you know, sensible policies that help people get ahead, and it's about people making their own choices in their own life rather than you know, as the Labor and the alban Easy government say, the government has to be with you at every step of your life.

And so these are not complicated things. They're not hard to articulate.

But my real worry here for the Liberals is that you know, they're going to take, as you suggested, Rita entirely the wrong lesson from this, and they're gonna go and they're gonna say, oh, well, you know, we need to have less and less difference between us and Labor, who has now got the chance to set the dominant narrative in the country, which is very dangerous and I mean Rowan, look you come from the world of advertising. Product in differentiation.

Is all is what.

It's a credential system in a country with a voting system like ours that really needs to be clear air.

As Labor light.

Well, you know Mark Speakman, no one believes that he will ever be premier of this.

If I live in New South Wales, my vote would be going to the Mints.

Why would you vote for someone who is half pregnant, someone who doesn't actually have a principled position at least with Labor, even when they go a little bit wacky with some of their policy positions, you know, it's what they believe in. When you've got the Liberals being labor light, it is inauthentic as well as being weakened.

I think that's the key point. And well there are two key points. One, as James is suggesting, oppositions must oppose not for their own sake, but for the sake of the Australian people. We the people of Australia, have a democratic system that demands an adversarial relationship between the two main major parties. Otherwise we are being short changed. And that's what just happened in the election last weekend.

Well, can we just say about Susan Lay, Susan, do we still pronounce the name the same dest?

I mean, I don't think. Yeah, I have some questions about that. I think that's her judgment, so you should have.

I just think on every key issue where I've noticed her, she has started off in the wrong position after and then has been persuaded or forced or I don't know, looked at the polling and the focus groups and changed her position. That's not being authentic, that's not being principled. I have more respect for her if she's stuck to original positions.

On the voice she was pro, then she was against.

When it comes to the Palestine Israel issue, again, we've seen a bit of a flip flopping there when.

It came just last year. The last year we had that.

Deeply flawed activist report, the gender wage Gap Report, which Janet Orbrickson ripped apart, I ripped apart, we had senators ripping it apart. Who was standing there saying this is a really important document and corporations have to take note of it. Susan Lay, she's the only one who seems to kind of miss the glaring holes in these activist reports. I think she just is far too comfortable playing identity politics, playing those games. I don't think this is what the

I don't think she's up to the toss well.

And you know, beyond that, whoever leads the coalition, whoever leads the Liberals, they need to get back to these

They don't deserve government.

And that's what we've been saying all year on this program, and particularly since the election campaign was called because we were as a group aghast at what we were seeing. This was such a lackluster, unprincipled campaign. The only really policy differentiation that stood out was the one that they refused to talk about, which was nuclear energy because they were.

Scared of it.

So why would Australian people throw out a first term labor government when you're not even giving them an alternative plan.

That's clear.

It was all over the shop. One thing it certainly wasn't wasn't Trumpian. You know what you're going to Dutton and the Liberals were as Trumpian in this election campaign as I'm a natural blonde.

I mean, it is ridiculous.

It is such an absurd notion and to and to hear people talk about that is just shows you how divorced from reality James.

I'll just jump in what is critical for the leadership?

You see?

You can't build the sort of party that James is talking about, one based on principles of smaller government, less government interference in your lives, encouraging smaller business and you know, encouraging productivity.

All of those.

Things can only come from leaders who believe it in their core and they have to have lived that and believed it all their lives, not looking every five minutes for a focus group to tell them, as Kevin Rudd did, what do I what are my convictions? Said Kevin Rudd. We'll go and have a focus group so I can find out if we have that sort of leadership of the Liberal party. You're doomed. You finished. You have to have leaders who instinctively, like a Howard, like an Abbott,

And the crazy thing here is that they had a roadmap to do this. You know, I was talking to people who were giving them policies, articulated policies on things like income splitting, which would make it easier for our parents and families and women to stay home with their kids and get a tax break off of that, you know, very simple pro family, pro woman policy. They just didn't

They refuse to go near it. Now, they refuse to.

Go near all of these things that they just I don't think had the intellectual metal to fight for.

Because we told them, James, they hadn't done the way.

It had been done for them. The policy.

I saw the policy on income splitting, that it was all worked out, it was given to you, that they refused.

To take it.

I you surprised. We had Peter Dutton during the Voice thing, during the Voice campaign. Midway through the Voice campaign, go if you don't, let's have a few other voices over hear said different voices in the States. So, I mean it was all focused group driven. You have to have people like this enterprise, people like Matt Canavan who have core beliefs that are unshakable and they will always be their guiding light. Not this kind of all hang on, what are we going to do today? What are the

Good round you? My ears were burning for a reason. Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. We need more moms, more kids, need to get that birth right up.

Absolutely And I've actually met your mum and she's a great Australian as well.

Matt.

You've thrown your hat into the ring for the leadership of the Nationals. Why what do you hope to bring to the party. Why should why should th that's look to you. They did well in the election, obviously they could do better. What do you offer?

Well, look, Rowan, I'm running because I think we have to end the tyranny.

Of groupthink in our country.

Over the last few years, A Paul has come down in our nation, which has not allowed the debate, which has seen any kind of descent from the prevailing views. Somehow disloyal to either the party or to the institutions of global institutions. We've somehow signed ourselves up to and I think Australian people deserve a choice, a proper choice.

So that's why I'm in this race.

I think we've got to smash the consensus there on this ridiculous net zero idea.

It was never going to work.

Now it's clear it's not working and that most other countries around the world are moving away from it. We should also have no problem in standing up for merit. Why do we have to sign up this ridiculous diversity, equity and inclusion agenda which tries to divide us by gender, by sexuality, by religion, whatever it may be. Let's get back to the principle of individual merit. That'll be the

And I think we need to have this debate on.

The tyranny of group think.

We saw the Liberals refuse to walk away from net zero and really make this a election, a referendum about climate change and the cost of living, the cost of energy. If you do have a Susan lay As leader who is a smaller Liberal, what's that going to mean for the coalition? How strong is the coalition between the Liberals and the Nationals as things stand.

Look, look, Greta, I'm not going to get involved in the leadership of another party. It's completely a matter for the Liberal Party. Well, of course we'll try and work productively with anybody who's elected, but I really am focused on our right now. Obviously, we've got a question to answer this week and we'll deal with those issues after that.

That's our goal, that should be our task.

And while it is very disappointing and disheartening for many of our supporters, I genuinely believe that the next few years could be the most exciting yet for the Nationals Party. I think we have a huge opportunity to sell ourselves in more areas around the country. We already know, given the results in recent elections, that we're very good at

Work, not before work.

They work tough jobs, not necessarily with some climes, dirty jobs, but just you know, check out Chick's nurses on their feet. They get tired by the end of the day. You know that they're doing it tough. And we're in touch, We're on the ground, we're grounded with those people. And I think it's that kind of campaign to take that choice to the Australian people that we're on your side, where we're going to fight for you.

And I will always fight for those people.

Who battle in this country and because by making their life easier, by making their families better, that's how we make our country better too.

James and Matt, I mean, I want to talk a little bit more about this group thig thing that you articulated there before, because I think that that sums up another way of talking about this whole phrase culture wars, which we always hear from the left, which is a way of their seeing shut up and don't talk about the changes that we're making to the culture. Tell us about what position the Nationals are in and how you

Yeah, it's a good question, James.

Look, the National's Party, it's not particularly ideological. We're very practical, very pragmatic. And it frustrates me when you're in Canberra. There's a whole different way of talking, which means it's a whole different way of thinking, which means a whole different way of acting. And so people talk about culture wars left or right or moderate and small our liberal and all this other stuff which nobody out in the real ever talks like.

They don't talk like that.

And as my colleague Ander Wilcock summed up this week, you did it really well. Sum Up, Yeah, we don't care about right or left. We care about right or wrong. That should be the question before any political part in this country, any country looking to advance itself, is what is right or wrong for our nation.

I don't care role left.

I don't care if the idea comes from the left wing, or from trade union or from a right wing conservative think tech.

I don't care.

I want the right policies at help Australians and that's what we're always focused on in the National's Party. I think right now we should look at the fact that our electricity bills are soaring, we're losing our industries, we're losing our jobs.

At at a practical level, whatever.

You think about carbon emissions, climate change, whether your a right wing or your Trumpian, whatever, who cares about those labels, shouldn't the primary goal of all politicians of your government right now is to lower up power prices. That should be the primary goal of your government because people are suffering from those high power prices. It's feeding through to high grocery prices which are out of control, and then it's also leading to the loss of jobs and industries.

That's what we spoke about, zero missions, nuclear all that stuff.

Look, of course it'd be better if we can have lower emissions, but shouldn't we should design our energy policy to reduce power process, not to reduce emissions.

And man, isn't the problem that under Labor we've got red tape, we've got green tape, we've now got black tape. So we've got all this regulation. So you've talked about things like the live sheep trade being shut down. The gold mine that can you pally big sectors? I lower, you know, who needs a gold mine? I mean we might find some gold down there for some songline B or whatever. It was something indigenous thing. So isn't it all that the sort of stuff which is National's heartland.

There's got to be absolutely there's got to be leadership here from your government to say, look, we've got to cut through all of this wasteful paper shuffling which is reducing our nation's productivity and ultimately reducing your wages. Real wages for people have gone back a decade under this first labor government, and a big part of that is the rise of a bureaucratic class, both in government and in the corporate world, that is just causing people to

List of more than twenty different statements they had to make on things like modern slavery. Obviously ESG.

If you don't know what ESG stands for, it stands for extreme shortage is guaranteed. You had to fill out forms, your on your relationship, on labor regulations, all this stuff. And they just wanted to build homes, this firm, and they're being asked to solve to solve global climate change. I don't know if they had to solve the Middle East peace crisis as well, but it is just an utter absurdity. Why don't we let someone who wants to

Fix that?

And I don't know about climate change, but I think we should focus on what we can control and focus on making people's lives better in a practical sense.

And also, sorry, Matt, the only roads that are perfect are the beautiful roads going to windmills and solar farms which are decimating the Queensland country side. But anyway, reta just.

A quick post mortem from you, and just if you can give us an insight into what was happening within the coalition, because we were obviously very frustrated throughout the campaign, wondering when we were going to see these big policies where we were going to see real points of differentiation why do you think the coalition, the Liberal Party in particular, chose to run the policy platform they did, where for the average person it was hard to tell the difference between the two parties.

Well, I wish I could give you an inside view, but Rider, I haven't been on insiders, I think for six or seven years.

I'm an outsider like you.

I obviously had different views on what policies we should take the election on the different fronts. But look, so I don't exactly know. I don't know. I wasn't in the discussions in the room there, I do think, and I'm speaking generica then, sorry, not about necessarily this campaign, but I do think there's been perhaps an over emphasis on saying you have to stay on message and you just have one message, and there's not enough space I suppose people's minds for multiple things.

Well, there's always a little bit of truth in that.

I do think perhaps we need to get with the media times. You know, people are no longer just watching the six o'clock news every night. There actually is a bit of bandwidth here for some more detailed conversations. We certainly saw that in the presential election last year with

But you know, I like to have discussions.

I like to get into the detail of things because it's only by doing that you make the right decisions. Of saying, that's what we should be focused on, making right decisions for the is range people.

Well, Matt Canavan, I hope the National Party Room makes the right decision. I can tell you that if my mailbox has anything to go by, the hunger to see Matt Canavan leading the National Party goes across this nation, the width and breadth of this nation. People are so desperate to see you in that leadership role, Senator Matt Canavan. So good luck they're in the party room. And thanks for coming on Outsiders, and we'll speak again soon after

For sure, watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan cognitively robust, d James Marbles Intact Morrow.

And I'm Rita Panahi And soon we'll be.

Delving into the world of net Zany with revelations that the Antarctic ice sheet, rather than disappearing, has lately shown signs of record breaking growth.

But first, this week, as Donald.

Trump was negotiating trade deals with the UK and brokering peace between Pakistan and India, we heard from the former Leader of the Free World, who, together with chief Elder abuse enabler Doctor Jill, appeared on the Lunatic Asylum masquerading as a TV show called The View. This was to show that far from being a puppet President Joe Biden was and is cognitively sound sharp as attack. It went about as well as you'd expect.

The project the benefits the world having best instructional How do you need the world without of the best healthcare role? How do you need the world without having the best educations in life?

Yeah, I have that and no idea what he is trying to say.

They're not even sure that our doctor Jill can interpret that mess. But Jill did step in to save the day when Biden was eventually asked about his mental decline. Poor Joe rattled off some lies about an insurrection, blamed Trump for the COVID pandemic unleashed by.

China, before handballing the question to Jill.

This is just.

Sad, deeply sourced from democratic sources that claim in your final year there was a dramatic decline in your cognitive abilities in the final year of your presidency. What is your response to these allegations? Are these sources wrong?

They are wrong. There's nothing to sustain that number one. Number two, you know, think of what we were left with. We left with the circumstance where we had an insurrection. I started not sense the civil war. We had a circumstance where we were in a position that we well, the pandemic because of the incompetence of the last outfit, end up over a million people dying, million people dying. And we're also in a situation where we found ourselves unable to deal with a lot of just basic issues.

Well, you know, one of the things I think is that the people who wrote those books were not in the White House with us.

Yeah, thanks, Jill.

Yes, it really was that pitiful as Joe and Jill sat there and claimed that he would have won the election if he ran against Trump. And when I asked why Kamala Harris didn't manage to prevail for the answer was as predictable as it was asinine.

I wasn't surprised because they went the route of the sexistuit of the whole room. I mean, this is a woman, she's this, she's that. I really I've never seen quite as successful and a consistent campaign under cutting the notion that a woman couldn't lead the country, and a woman of mixed race, and they played that a failure.

Yeah, Kamala squandered one point eight billion to lose every swing state, to lose the Electoral College and the popular vote because of racism and sexism.

If that appearance on the view was to prove to.

The American people that the Democrats and their propaganda arms in the media didn't cover up the biggest scandal in modern history that the President of the United States, the commander in chief, was mentally incapable of performing the role well, if that was the goal, it was a massive failure because every doubt you had about Joe Biden was confirmed by that appearance. And let's be honest, Yeah, Biden's cognitive decline didn't occur in the final year of his presidency.

Campaign and even well before that. Remember this, and it get hard.

I got lin it, I got hairy legs.

That turned that that that that that turn blonde in the sun.

And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and.

Rub my leg down.

So it was training that watch the hair come back up again.

They look at it. So I learned about roaches.

I learned about kids jumping on my lap, and I loved kids jumping on my lap.

Look, he learned about roaches, He learned about kids jumping on his lap, and he loved kids jumping on his.

What's so hard to about that? I mean, corn Pop gets it.

Corn Pop was a bad dude and he ran a bunch of bad boys, and I did.

And back in those days and shot things have changed.

One of the things he had to use.

If you use palmate and your hair, you had to wear a baby cap and so he was up on the board, wouldn't listen. I said, hey, Esther, you off the board. I'll come up and drag you off. And I walked up to my car and they had those days, used to remember the street race. You bang them on the curb, Get him rusty, put him in the rain barrel, get him rusty. And I looked at him. But I was smart then.

I was smart.

Yes, yes, Joe, you were smart back then with the rusty raizor blades in the rain barrel. But sadly, you, whoever pulled your strings, presided over the most disastrous presidency.

In modern his streets.

Time to go back to the beach you spent most of your presidency at and allow forty seven to clean up your mess.

Fantastic and it's so good those clips. And we were talking all the time. We talked about Biden's decline here on this show, Donkey Byte for years, years and years, and right wing trumpions, oh, I don't understand what a great president Biden is.

Wall you remember that when they would saying, oh, you know that was fake news. And remember there it was the moment like deep fake and all this sort of thing, and there was a moment at the G seven, remember when he wandered off and the Manuel about Crown just had to Cady go like this and pull it back in the frame because he just going over and he was sort of saluting the air somewhere and it was like Wall's and they were like, no, no, no, no, no,

So here's the thing.

All of these commentators, all of the people who are writing these books and all these expose as now, they were the ones who were saying that, oh, you know, these probably fine.

And remember Joe Scarborough for.

MESSNBC, this Joe Biden is the best Joe Biden.

Probably He made.

Another big call this week, so he said the AOC was very the leader of the Democrats, the future visionary.

Please God, yes, please AOC be the future of the Democrats.

The rewriting of history here is incredible. Then you've got a figure like Jake Tapper, who was part of this cover up, who facilitated it, who attacked people who questioned Joe Biden's cognitive decline when he pends a book saying no, no, this was terrible and I had nothing to do with it please.

You cannot allow that she fixed.

That was the free.

Now I want to talk more about the leadership because the leadership of the Liberal Party is absolutely critical. And if you're in the Liberal Party and you don't understand how important this is to the people of Australia. If you think it's some sort of tricky thing to advance yourself, forget yourself on or the focus groups or your mates, the investor group or whatever. You're making a huge mistake. If you get this wrong. You really let Australians down.

Sorry, can I just inject a little bit of you know, we just we all just watched the same campaign here, and just a moment ago, we were talking about the economic policies, you know that the Liberals brought to the table and I'm sorry, but you know, he was the shadow treasurer, and what did we have in the way of prosecuting a real case for tax cuts and smaller governments. You know, they got all modeled up on working for

And it was a year ago that I had Angus Taylor at a Liberal Party event which I hosted. It was a debate where he clearly made the point that it would be Liberal Party policy to cut the number of public servants in Candra by thirty six thousand, and that was a commitment. Now, you can blame Angus Taylor and you can blame Susan Lee, both of them were deputies in the election campaign, but the blame has to sit with the lead of Peter Dutton and the HQ

Of course, but I think in my mind Angus Taylor's performance during the election campaign was underwhelming, to put it mildly, But if the choice is between him and Susan Lay, well it's Angus Taylor every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

It's no question. If you want to rebuild the party, if you want.

To actually have any chance of holding labor accountable for the next three years and actually being in a position to take a policy platform that sound to the next.

Election, you need to start today.

You can't just write off the next couple of years and say well, we'll have a different leader by the time the election.

Into what we're wrong.

To start get running exactly.

And I think I'm going to be talking to just into an Abergen Price shortly. But Angus Taylor, just Enterprise, that's the team to rebuild the Liberal Party.

That's what excites the liberal part of the voters out there, Coalition voters out there. There is no question. If I don't know what your two inboxes are like, but my my in box has been flooded with people going, yes, please, we want Matt Canavan, we want just enter Price, and we want as you said, we'd rather Angus Taylor any day over. So you know what's going to happen if if you want, if you want your focus groups listen to the actual people of Australia. That's who usual.

But there's a real danger though, I mean, think about what happens if Susan Lay does get up as leader, and let's think about what happens then if Matt Canavan gets up as leader in the NATS, what happens to the coalition?

Hoped that coalition possibly hold. Only last year Susan Lay was attacking Matt Canavan over that gender wage gap report because Matt Canavan and Alexantique and others very smartly actually had a look at it, saw the massive flaws in the entire report, suggesting that you know, women are being systematically discriminated against doing exactly the same roles, the same hours, but getting paid less when we know that's not happening

There's a very big difference.

But you know, there's also a real worry because within the Liberal Party, and I know coming out of New South Wales and the moderate wing of the party here in New South Wales, there is a push on to make sure that whoever the leader is basically abandons any difference between the Liberals and the Labor Party on energy. It says we will just go along with Labour's targets and take that issue entirely off the table as a point of difference. Now, big renewables investors will do very very well.

Off that the rest of us not so much.

And that's why we need that point of difference on energy, because energy is just a transfer of Well, just quick to these go.

No, I'll just pick up on James's one hundred percent correct and we will know on Tuesday if the Liberal Party go for Susan Leigh and ignore the opportunity of Angus Taylor and just enterprise. You, the Liberal Party, have shown that you are completely in the pocket of the renewables investors. You're no different to the Teals. That is what you will prove to us on Tuesday. It's up to you. You either support the people of Australia or you support your renewables investors mates in the hedge funds.

And let's not forget also, because the Liberals have now lost two elections embracing net zero. Before that that had a climate change election, they won the winnable election nineteen because they said we are going to prioritize affordability and reliability over emission targets. Now they won that debate. That wasn't that long ago. That was not that long ago, twenty nineteen. Since then, we saw Scott Morrison last time we betrayed.

He did a U turn, he for traded. I'll be talking about that and shortly. But yeah, absolutely one hundred percent from Rita and this Liberal Party. All eyes of Australia are on you. You back your renewables investors, mates, and we will never ever ever let you forget it. So make the right choice. We're going to take a short break now, Sorry, we'll be coming back and lots more to talk about. Let's any and we'll have just Center

Record breaking growth.

We have to send out commiserations to the little doom goblin, Greta Thunberg. She will be devastated, but you know what, she's moved on to other issues. She's got Palestine pro Palestinian anti Israeli activists these days, so maybe she doesn't care about this.

Maybe she's good.

You know, I'm just waiting to find out which side in India Pakistan is going to take because you know.

That's a hard one.

Yeah, that's a hard one.

A lot of the lefties who you know, very eager to put little symbols on there.

We haven't had any flags in anybody's Twitter.

Pakistan.

I stand with India where I need to know what do I put in my ex head or to show that's a good right on person.

Someone who has not been such a good right on person was the BBC James who they've edited. So they tried to claim that they have made some net zero claims. It turned out to be false.

Well, they corrected Richard Tye, the from Reform UK, the Deputy leaded there. He said only four percent of global warming was you know, tripable attributable to mankind, man made, and very quickly corrected by Fiona Bruce, the host of the program, saying oh no, no, no, it's thirty percent or whatever. She and they've just quietly gone back and edited that out because yeah, it turns out, yeah, Richard Tys may have been right.

That's of course he was right, and that's it's worth making the point that reform in the UK is absolutely going gangbusters. As we've talked about last week with Myron and you'll be seeing a lot more of that. And it's based on tackling net zero, which in the UK is devastating life in the UK, and even Tony Blair has come out and said oop net zero, that's that's

Why is that?

Because she believes in numerology, and numerology is this weird thing that went on through the advertising world in the nineties, which is why if you put an extra letter in your name, you get an extra number and that adds up to whatever. It's Sorry, Reds and Marcus Jackson can sus.

And been on this here because you know what's really funny to be here about, you know, labor and the left of the Greaves and all the sort of the woke left media out there, is that they have it picked up on this bit of New age wo. If you get a politician, well, I've seen a few attempts in some you know, dirt sheets to put it out there, but you know, pretty much they've left that one alone.

Berology, Yeah, okay, we can talk there. You know you got a new age WU.

Can you imagine getting up yes in my name because that's going to change what precisely.

Which it's like astrology and type numbers in the universe R H I T A.

Because it's like the letter h.

Hey, can we tell you it's a club your university think which the university thing?

But can we just say about our friend Susan two.

Ss yes please.

I call it? This goes with that, as this goes with that at Susanne, Yes, we've got the ad we might have before we do that. We got there and.

We don't have the singer for you.

This goes with that at Susan. So at the party room, they could go, well, let's this goes with that Anderson just sent.

The alternative prime minister thinking that adding letters to your name random Lee at the age of forty odd fifty odd is going to change your fortunes. And let's not forget the reason she was demoted. And there was a fairly significant political scandal over using taxpayer funds to travel to Queensland to purchase a investment property. Again, that is something that hasn't been spoken about much. But I guess what if she becomes leader and we talked about incessantly, So let's just put it all.

On the table.

Absolutely, Okay, Wacademia, James, You've got a good story.

Oh I love this here.

So Columbia University, which of course was you know, one of the brown zeros of at the Semitic jee hatred and pro Hamas pro Hezbollah protesting last year. Well, now you know the Trump administration has come out and said we're going to cut some of these grants here that we've been giving you. Now you're seeing some protests that they've just had this past week at Columbia, and now as a result, they're going to be saying they're going to cut as many as one hundred day staff members.

Seeing on your screen.

Here.

The fascinating thing here two things.

Number one, Columbia has a fourteen point eight billion dollar US endowment, so that's like twenty billion Australian dollars. So like the idea that a few government grants is going to cause them great pain and penury, it's.

A bit of a nonsense.

But the other thing too, when you saw those protests there on the screen, well, this time around, rather than letting the protesters come in and destroy the library and in camp for days and weeks and months, instead, this time the universe said, okay, we've actually got to get serious.

They lock the protesters.

In the library, only let them out if they had a university ID, and the dozens and dozens who didn't were arrested for trespassing. Many of them are in the country on visas, and the Secretary of State has said we are kicking them out. So I think that there has been a real sea change in the way universities of America deal with this stuff. And it is about time. And that's a really good change that we are seeing under the trop administration.

Just a side note on that.

What was interesting the numbers who were arrested that day and identified overwhelmingly female.

And again we've got to not discount liberal.

Maybe if the liberal has just become a little bit more left wing, all these feral far left women will start voting for them.

That is something we've got to start talking about.

We are seeing men, young men increasingly go right, but we are also seeing young women.

Go very left.

And this activist left is feral left phenomenon amongst leftist women, I think is something that's under discussed.

I agree we need to discuss it after the break. We're going to take a short break after the break. Senator just Center Caampa Gym for Price joins us in a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita stand for nothing and you'll lose Panahe James, mediocrity is death. Morrow and myself Rowan ban the bedwetters Dean. Over the next forty eight hours, the Coalition opposition has a chance to turn the savage loss of last weekend into a victory

I can inform you that the government of Australia has changed for just the.

Seven you obviously enjoyed hearing it. So let me say it again. The Government of Australia has.

Changed weirdly and unforgivably and twenty fifteen are kind of collective madness to call the Liberal Party, and that's being polite. That landslide winning Conservative Prime Minister Tony was replaced by a man of no conservative convictions who had even toyed with joining the Labor Party, a man beloved of the ABC and The Guardian. His career spawned in the hedge fund world of Goldman, Sachs and the dot com boom,

But by this stage it's about midnight, and eventually he has to go to the hotel. He arrives too late, too unhappy. One of the paradoxes is he's won the election, but he acts as though he's lost the election.

Malcolm Turnbull then wasted most of his prime ministership on frivolities like same sex marriage and trying to cobble together a failed energy policy which clearly the public were unimpressed by, so much so that the Liberals then turf Turnbull outs

But you were famously the centrist MP, and yet you were still the fourth Australian Prime minister in eight years to be discarded. Well you're got an example of a centrism in retreat.

Well well yeah, but basically you could argue that their concern was not that I would lose the election, but rather that I would win it.

You're telling me your own party didn't want you to win the next lee.

Well, I'm just saying if you analyze credit. Well yeah, no, Andrew Neil was right, that was not credible. But the point here, jokes aside, is that as Andrew Neil had spotted, Turnbull was the Altar's centrist. He represented the whole concept of a centrist government as opposed to a conservative one. I'll get back to that in a minute. Scott Morrison, who replaced Malcolm Turnble, went on to win the twenty nineteen miracle election, as I and Iileen had predicted he would.

Would a coalition government remain in the Paris courts, Yes, we will, and I've said that.

I'll get back to that in a second. Meanwhile, even Tony Blair in Britain is now advising dumping net zero, as Trump, China, Russia, India and all the large industrial economies are doing. After Scott Morrison, we've got Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton pledged to remain in that Paris agreement regardless as you just saw, of the incredible financial harm it is doing to everyday Australian households. Excited to stay in complete madness, The lesson here for the Coalition should be simple.

Now, we didn't do well enough during this campaign.

That much is obvious tonight and I accept for responsibility for that. No, PD, you certainly did not do well enough. You actually deceived us, we the Australian people. You were a conservative during the Voice or pretended to be, which you won handsomely, and then veered straight back into the Labor lights center where you lost disastrously. We were all duked into thinking you might actually pursue an anti labor,

Well, good morning Rowan, and good morning to all the sky viewers are today. Yes, I have made the decision, and the decision wasn't taken lightly. Of course, I did it with a lot of consultation, particularly with my family.

That was a lost opportunity.

Now after the result of their referendum, it was evident what we needed to do.

Instead of looking at the polls and thinking.

Look, we're not going to win this, we had to get in there and actually change the narrative, lead the narrative in the argument, and also hang around the neck of the Prime Minister his failings pin his lies to him.

That is what we needed to do.

And so, you know, I'm very passionate about our country and the direction in which it is going because I've seen how socialism has destroyed the lives of those that I love in remote communities, and with the Labor government now in power for three more years, it is the most marginalized who miss out the most, you know, let alone every.

Day Australians in all of this.

And so I guess the fighter in me feels, you know, I'm obliged to step up.

You know, I've had a blessed life. Although I've overcome much.

Disadvantage in my life as a single mother who raised three kids as a teenage mother, you know who's had

That to me has always been the most.

Rewarding element of what it is that I've whatever it is I've been involved in over the years, including you know, establishing a women's music program for Indigenous women here in Central Australia that's grown right across the territory, to enable Indigenous girls and women to buck the trend of being told you don't belong in a music room, but to establish their own music careers, to establishing and growing the women's football league here in Alice Springs and watching young

I want our young men.

To realize that they are valued and they are important just as well. And so this is what drives me ultimately, and given you know what I've faced in my life and what I've had to overcome, certainly within my broader family as well, this beautiful country has given me those opportunities and it is why I stand where I stand now.

The center of the Liberal Party do have an identity crisis right now? How are you going to be part of that solution?

And we're having a lot of folks, a lot of some would call them grifters, suggesting that what the Liberals need is a quota system. They need to have gender quotas like labor. Do are you an advocate for that.

I'm certainly not an advocate for gender quotas.

I never have been.

I'm all for meritocracy. I think that is the way we have to move forward. I mean, if you look to Labor, you know, they stand up and they sproute that they support women. When have they or will they ever see put an Indigenous woman in a position where she has the opportunity to go for deputy leader of their party.

It's not going to happen for a very long time.

You know, this is about meritocracy, This is about achievement, This is about bringing hope to the Australian people and the Liberal Party that we can absolutely rebuild if we remember where we've come from and use those values to create policy and to move forward. You know it is because of Liberal values, you know, the freedom of the individual, but responsibility that is the ultimate formula to realize one's capacity to achieve and be successful in life, no matter

James sat I'm listening to you articulate these Liberal values in a way that I think is in some ways clearer and more precise than many in the Liberal Party managed to do during this past campaign, which brings me to the question, then, you know, why did you decide to make this move across the hall from the Nationals to the Liberal Party given that the Liberals have been in this identity crisis which some have even suggested is existential,

Look, this is actually something that I wanted to do when I was first elected, but there were some that were preventing me from doing so and put a block in my way of being able to make that choice. And being new to the game, I thought, well, you know, I don't want.

To rock the boat.

I will follow tradition and do as traditional tradition tells as part of the Country Liberal Party to sit in the Nationals party room. Don't get me wrong, I am love I loved being a national We share the same values that I don't see that we don't share the same values. I have been very grateful for the opportunities that the National Party under David Little Proud's leadership have provided me. But I felt in this situation we're faced with a crisis and me feeling like inside truly i've

That's not what I'm interested in.

But this is the fight that we're up against and given I've been experiencing this all my life.

The opportunity is there.

If I don't take it, it might not come. It's one of those things sometimes in life you have to you have to take those risks in order.

For the greater good.

And just senter. I think people, your critics will go, oh, she's just a one trick pony. She did the voice and so on. But for me, the critical thing about the voice. Obviously I agreed with the outcome, but the critical thing was how you took a position where you would. Everybody told you you were going to lose. The focus groups, the opinion polls, everybody apart from the Spectator, Australian and outside has of course told you you were going to lose.

Absolutely, in my view, the campaign start right now. It started yesterday, because we're already hearing from Labor that the soon to be reappointed Treasurer that it's going to take apparently it's going to take yet another term, a third term, in order to get productivity where it needs to be. He's already stating that they're going to fail the Australian people. We can't let them get away at any point with their broken promises and their lies to the Australian people.

We've got to highlight the fact that.

All they rely on is mudslinging. And when that's all you've got, when all you have got is to berate someone, to call them names, to attack their character, it's because you have nothing to offer.

It is our job.

As the Liberal Party, as part of the broader coalition, to execute that argument effectively and get that clear messaging across to the Australian people. And look, can I also say that I absolutely endorse Angus Taylor. He is a pragmatic, deep thinking individual who I would absolutely be privileged to serve beside going forward for the benefit of the Liberal Party and the Coalition.

I'm a coalitionist all the way.

I'm absolutely for that for being part of the team that wants to revive our nation, take back Australia.

From the clutches of labor that we know going to continue to destroy the joint Senator.

Did you send to Namigmperprize? Good luck on Tuesday? The nation will be watching. Thanks so much for coming on Outsiders, and I'll remind you as you were on Outsiders many many years ago, and it's always great to have you here at Senate. Did you send to namigimpro Prize? We shall see what happens on Tuesday. What a wonderful woman and a great mum. They're on Mother's Day after the break, James, Donkey, vibe and tick.

Hello, you're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan Dean and Rita Panty. And of course I'm James Morrow and I want to tell you about a trade deal. Yes, a trade deal that Donald Trump has just made with the UK and why it could spell big trouble for Australia's own handsome boy, Anthony Albinizi. Now on Friday morning, we hear in Australia woke to the news that the US

Once again, I want to thank Prime Minister starm He's been terrific for his partnership in this matter. The special relationship and external bond, it's really an external and an internal bond between our two countries will soon be stronger than ever before, and we really do. We have a great relationship. I want to just say that the representatives of UK have been so professional and it's been an honor doing business with.

All of them, and in particular the Prime Minister.

Well, so good for the US, good for the White House, good for Donald Trump. He's finally landed his first post tariff's trade deal and the bond markets should be very happy about that. Indeed, But while Britain is now getting reduced tariffs on its aluminium and steel. Out of this,

Ah benis I'm very friendly with I don't know anything about the election.

He's been very very nice to me, very respective to me. I have no idea who the other person is that ran against him.

And you know we've had a very good, real.

Nice warm Well I'm sure Peter doesn't love that.

But the problem is that in trade negotiations any demand to crypt Chinese investment in Australia would really infuriate Beijing, which, as Australian farmers, vintnors and coal miners know all too well, is willing to punish local producers for any perceived insult coming from Candra.

Here.

The UK, of course, is in a far better position than Australia. I mean, China is Britain's fifth largest trading partner and a total two way trade between the pair is only a bit more than one tenth that between Britain and the EU just.

Across the channel.

But Australia, well, here we are a long way away from everyone. We don't have that advantage of close major trading partners and markets right nearby. So as a result, China is by far our latest largest trading partner, and the failure of successive governments to wind this back, even after COVID give us some big warning on that score, means that Beijing has a lot more sway here, So.

There's an eleven.

Now for Australia, then, is that as much as our political leaders talk tough about stepping up for our sovereignty and our interests, the hard economics mean that we have far less room to move than we would like Now. China happily server navigates our coast and conducts live fire exercises in the Tasman. They've issued apoplectic grievance letters that

Change and choices are coming.

Trump is leading the way and it is now up to Albanisi to manage what is happening correctly.

Great stuff, Thanks James and James. We now have an American pope.

We do have an American pope. Pope Leo the fourteenth.

There you go, Yeah, named after Pope Leo the thirteen, who was named after Pope Leo the twelfth.

Ah.

Yes, But what Pope Leo the thirteenth do well.

Pobabio the thirteenth was really really interesting here because he was the pope from the late eighteen hundred store i think nineteen oh eighteen seventy eight to nineteen oh three. Lear the thirteenth was a pope who was very much about trying to figure out a way to accommodate and bring the moral voice of the Catholic Church into a world that was rapidly industrializing, and he did that through in cyclicals like erm Novarum. Now Lear the fourteenth is

He has spoken about.

The church's need to help the world come to grips with the new changes that were going through with Ai and everything else. And there was a little detail that on his pectoral cross when he was announced as pope he was wearing a like from a Spanish bishop who in nineteen thirty eight was killed by Spanish Marxists in the Spanish Civil War.

Now to me, you are.

He's also a climate change not he's part of the he wants to worship.

Earth and Mother of Earth, pine about deportation policies.

I mean, really stick to your knitting.

So you know what, I'll have a bit more faith when he comes out far more strongly than his predecessor and says something about the persecution of Christians.

And let me give you something else. So here's another point on that. There was a potential pope in Prolin who was the Secretary of State for the Vatican, who was the guy who inked a truly evil and sinister deal with the Chinese Communist Party. He was knocked out. The male is that those first three black smoke ballots were all about blocking him, and it was a group of American bishops that blocked that guy. So this guy

All of years.

But opining about climate.

Change is about climate change worshiping. There we'll get into this. I'm going to get speaking of climate change.

I'm doing showby showby we will I'm doing a segue, James, don't interrupt my segment.

Well, as we go to lefty lunacy and the more vandalizing of paintings, this time a three hundred and seventy year old painting has been destroyed by these eco climate cultures.

And actually damaged this one.

Because we've got a bit of a let's have a look. It is.

Hard to much it.

I mean, I think five years in prison oil not just stop oil paintings.

It's just it's seriously, we need to see a few of these serving a decent because going to destroy some priceless piece of.

Art that we just can't allow that to happen.

They have just got away with this time and time again in different countries. They're go in front of these leftist judges and give them a slap on the wrist. Now it needs to be punished properly. This is a domestic terrorism, is what it is.

Cultural It's worse than domestic. It's cultural terrorism.

It's actually it is part of the much greater cultural Marxist.

Project to undermine all of the foundations.

Of our civilization, of which, of course these great works of art that they go out and attack regularly is all about. So you know, it has to be seen. It's not just about just stop oil. It's about a greater cultural project.

Well, speaking about cultural Marxism. A beautiful portrait done by Johannes Leak, the cartoonist on the Australian and their son, of course of Bill Leak. He's done. Bill Leek put many portraits into the Archibalds. Johannas has now done a superb portrait of Alex Rivchin and it's absolutely beautiful and it captures the kind of sorrow that Alex Rivchin has felt over the last eighteen months since October seventh. But the reality, the joke here is that the archieballs did

That's no.

And here this was accepted by the.

Archie What I think I scribbled that just in the air Breaker.

And that was accepted by the Archibalds.

So there Ian.

If you go to visit the Archiballs and see those magnificent works of art, what you will not see is Johannes leek superb portrait of a man Alex Ripchen at a very critical point in our history when anti Semitism is right. I've been so disgusting. You can see the the sorrow, the fear, the heartbreak, and Alex is the pathos on Alex. Thank you, James. And now you were a critic, weren't you at one point? There you go and you can see that in that work about That's

Why do you think that was a big Let me.

Get Let's have a guest Leak, son of Bill Leak, and a portrait of the Australia's that was most one of the Australia's most famous Jews. Oh what do you think they were thinking?

I tell you, I tell you the artists.

To the style because you know, I'm sure.

Because you can see, you can actually recognize the person you hate.

To sort of gage with the six you don't want to sell like a philistine, but an awful lot of those paintings that you just showed up there on the thing on the screen, they look like they'd be tacked up with magnets on somebody's fridge, you know. But putting that aside, you know, Bill Leak and your house classically trained artists, and you know this is the other thing too that I think is the objection, you know, the Leak family the subject, but also the classical beauty there.

Upont And haven't got another segue for you, James, straight into the art in New Times Square in New York and as well, a similar statue has been put up by different artists in Florence, of all places. So there's the Times tell us about this, Ja, We're going to tell us about Well.

Yeah, this statue of a fictionalized character. I think it's around twelve, mildly obese woman.

It's not a beautiful work.

Why you would put that up instead of putting up something that is I think any public art needs to be not just thought provoking. It needs to add some esthetic beauty. It needs to make the place better. And I think we've lost sight of that both with the modern architecture, with some of the modern art. We're seeing the sculptures that the element of beauty is almost offensive to them.

They want to have this, and I think.

It's it's a six society that does not celebrate Square.

Tim Square is you know, an absolute sewer. It is just one of the worst places.

Like back to your Marxist point earlier, James, that both those works of art one smack bang in the middle of where the Renaissance took place in the Piacity signor there in Florence right opposite David As it's it's an everyday woman, a black woman on her phone or whatever. The one in Times Square is should every day black.

One square, They should have Travis pickleby the story.

The points here is.

The nauseating wokeness. Oh, let's you know, it's this whole all portraits and things, which is not true. But this is what the Woks say is of white men, and you know, so let's have a black woman. So this is there. This is the full extent of their creativity rather than a white man. Let's have a black beautiful. Of course, there are stunning black beautiful women that have been in art featured three So it's all it's all Marxism, it's all degrading, you know, as you were saying classical.

I mean, I don't mind if it's if it's a real person, whatever they look like. But you can make a piece of art be beautiful.

Of course, you can around.

Regardless of who the subject matter is, and it enhances the environment. People see it, they stop and and it brings something to them. I think we've just lost that, and we see it with modern architecture in particular.

It's one of my absolutely and it's been lost deliberately. And that's this school of marx We don't make beautiful things. After the break Canbrah Clown Show in a tick roll up, roll up, step right this way. Yes, it's the Canra clown Show, where the traveling Election Show has finally wrapped up, leading laughter and tears the length and breadth of the country. Here's one brave journalist who manage to ask a decent question of Albosa, the ringmaster. At the end of the tour, We're.

Just frightening the living daylights out of everybody About Peter Dutton. He's matched both most of your health spending commitments, including on medicare. So why do you run around with this gay campaign?

That was decent journalism, unlike this reprehensible and disgraceful nonsense from the ABC's chief scold Sarah for Ferguson. I told the Coalition they should have got rid of the ABC.

Let's just talk about this sensibly. Just we saw you wearing a make Australia Great Again hat at a time when Donald Trump poison to the world. We saw you give a speech in which you used a Donald Trump value statement to make Australia gay get great again. So can I come back to the question are you partly responsible? Can I the Liberal Party? Let me come to Peter Dutton's loss of his seat at me.

Let me come back to the question. That's a whole lot of mudge just slung right.

There, indeed, and the nonsense didn't get any better on Q and A.

Donald Trump is toxic in Australian politics and and he should be.

Yes. That was former Liberal Senator George Brands auditioning for a role as chief clown in the new Big Top. Either that or he wants a job at the ABC. Meanwhile, the Teal Clown suffered a severe bout of premature celebrations this week as they danced away the night enjoying the victory of Teal Zoey Daniels. And here they were still celebrating the next day, but then sadly tears of a clown reality crept in and the next thing you know, it's this bloke has wiped the smile off all their

Ah.

Yes, happy days and memories were all involved. I'm sure, even in all its new and progressive glory, is Parliament really all it's cracked up to be? Not? According to this Greens lady before this interview, Max Chandler Maida yesterday called Parliament a sick place and bloody awful.

What did you make of those comments from one of your now former colleagues.

Tom.

Of course the Parliament can be a bloody awful place.

But what's it like being in the Greens. Surely it's all progressive, sweetness and light, not according to Marine.

And in my.

Thirty years in Australia, I have worked in many organizations before I stepped into politics, and I have experienced racism.

In each and every single one of them.

And yes I have experienced racism in the Greens, oh dear.

Understandably, some of the Greens fans were clearly upset when everybody's scariest Green plan, adam Ant, sorry Adam Bant, I always make that mistake, was turfed from the Burley Griffin big top this week, discarded like the soggy Greens leftover on a lazy Susan at the local Chinese Here is when he thought he was going to win, but then reality and this tragic announcement.

A short time ago, I called the Labor candidate for Melbourne, Sarah Whiitty, to concede, to congratulate her and to wish her all the best as the next member for Melbourne.

It appears some of adam Ant's sorry Adam Bant's fans were not impressed. This is someone called Abby Chatfield.

Something the great people can put me out of power water pathetic campaign.

But chuck yourself to Abbey Chatfield and this is what you get.

Lazy okay.

And here's Abby again, struggling to make sense of it, all.

The anxiety about Adam Bant losing his seat. I didn't even think it was possible for Adam Band lose his seat. I think it's possible. What I have seen, it's been neck and neck. I don't get how that is.

Is it?

Nick in Nick or Nick and Nick? Yes, that would appear to be the end of Adam Ant, sorry Adam Bant, at least for the time being. But what would Adam Bant, sorry Adam Ant have to say? I mean hyperbo hyperpreme exaggeration, hyperbole has pronounced by Julia Gillard. Well, James, you've got a good story for great.

Story for Bernie Sanders, you know, the great socialist. Well, you know, it's always the thing with these socialists, it's like one rule for them, one rule for everybody else. Apparently he's a big, big, big fan of the private jet and he got called out all this by Brett Bayer on Fox News.

Have a look at this free Beacon says Bernie Sanders spent two hundred twenty one thousand on private jets fighting the oligarchy, tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders. That you've spent millions of dollars in campaign funds on private jet travel over the years. How do you push back on both of those things?

The last time you saw Donald Trump during the campaign mode at National Airport?

No, no, no, it doesn't.

But he's also not fighting the oligarchy.

No.

And you run a campaign and you do three or four or five rallies in a week. The only way you can get around to talk to thirty thousand people. Think I'm going to be sitting on a wedding line at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people are waiting. That's the only way you can get around. No apologies for that.

Did you turn around on the line waiting to check in for his flight at United? It's always away with this.

We're socialists with three homes.

One mode, you know what he's candidate? What are you talking about? What campaign? And two you're a socialist. Donald Trump is not a socialist. Donald Trump boasts about his wealthare.

Most people have to work as well and like to get to their.

Job with those plus exactly.

Now, Rita, Rita, We were very critical of an ad from done for Jaguar cars last year and oh, looks like we might have been correct.

Well we were, because they're now bringing out their own sort of version of the cyber truck.

To was a great cyber truck. And they are going to walk away very quickly from.

That ridiculous, woke ad which completely had nothing to do with the actual product. It was really such a bizarre concoction of it.

It was just weird transgender thing with no car, no Jaguars, nothing sexy. And they're getting a new ad agency, as they should. James and I was also intrigued by this one. In Canada.

Just listen to this.

So the police was making an announcement about an important police matter.

And can I just say what this matter is? This is this is why this is so shocking. This was a tragic story. Two young kids missing for a better part of the week. Police were scaling back their search, didn't expect to find them alive, and in the most serious of circumstances, they start a press conference with this.

Good afternoon.

I am Corporal Coroly McCown, Provincial Republican from me Officer for the Nova Scotia ur CMP. Thank you all for being here today, Just la capitel, Carle McCann, Jean Diefromacivelecas Melci de vos. First, I acknowledge that we are in Micmagi, the traditional and unseated and satral territory of the Migmah people.

What unbelievable any but that's that's what happens when when you just have this as routinely uttered, this incoherent nonsense, whether it's a sporting event, whether it's Anzac day, whether it's a work meeting, whether it's a school assembly.

Well, don't be surprised if you're hearing at the start of the time while.

The parents are waiting for the news about the kids, you've got all this nonsense. Welcome to country and there you go as well. That's a Canadian welcome to country. We borrowed the terminology first Nations. We borrowed the whole concept of all this endless the Green irony.

The Green irony very quickly is that it is based on a very sort of hard right idea of blood and soil nationalism. That's where all of this comes from. It is not left wing. It's actually something that the Nazis drew on too well.

It's just insanse, this whole welcome to country thing, and it's going to be ramped up under labor. There you go. We'll have lots more to say about that next week, but that's all for this week's show. Make sure during the week you watch reda Panahee every evening at eleven and on Friday. What a night Friday is seven o'clock the world According to Rowan d in eight o'clock the US Report, James nine o'clock read a panne left his leader. That's it, Ross Greenwood, now bye,