Episode 49: A Life Coach Session with Ron Kardashian

Our guests today is rather an interesting guy. He's a minister that you're like, oh man, we've had other ministers on here before. Of course, he's very unique though. He has the last name that millions of people know around the world, and it is Kardashian. Yes, that Kardashian. This Kardashian, though, is someone who does something a little different than the reality TV stars that you know from keeping up with the Kardashians, kN Chris Chloe and all of those folks.

This guy is a life coach. He's a minister and I'm telling you, folks, you're in for a true ride. I'm talking about Ron Kardashian. He's here for indef and inspiring conversation that I know you'll enjoy. Ron is a life coach and he's a mentor to so many people whose lives he's touched for the better. He's also a strength and conditioning coach, certified by the National Strength and

Conditioning Association and the founder of Kingdom Conditioning Ministries. You can find out more about Ron's integrated God's Center fitness approach by picking up his book Getting in Shape God's Way. He also has a book I'll called thirty Second Solution trand Firm your body, business, relationship, and life in just thirty seconds. This is a book that people like TD Jake's has endorsed. So Ron Kardashian, thank you for joining us here on Out Loud with Gianno Caldwell Coach. Thank

you Gianno for having me. No, it's my pleasure you're now. It's a lot going on this week, and I want to start off the show by talking about Afghanistan, the people they are hurting. I know that there's been plans in the works for a while for US to withdraw in Afghanistan, and I'm certainly not looking to have you get involved in any political conversations because I think this

is beyond politics. I think this is a human a human issue where the United States it's supposed to be that shining city sitting on a hill or freedom loving people everywhere, and it feels as though we failed that mission. But I want to play some audio from CNN of all places and what they're noticing on the ground, from one of their senior international correspondence. Let's play the audio drive. It's the panic, the lack of clear information, The rumor

mill is an over drive. There's hysteria. You have Taliban fighters with whips with guns. You have US and UK soldiers who are not allowing people in. You have mixed messaging coming through about what kind of paperwork you need and how you can get on a fly where you can go. I mean, it is just an absolute mess. And we heard President Biden say yesterday in his comments

to ABC News that this is not a failure. And I think a lot of people outside that airport, particularly those taking the kinds of extreme actions were just talking about, would like to know if this isn't failure, what does failure look like? Exactly what you just heard is a clip from CNN, and I'm sure a lot of you are listening and saying, wait a second, that was CNN, Yes, it was. The world is condemning our leader right now.

Our allies in Afghanistan are allies around the world who been a part of this fight for twenty plus years, didn't receive one phone call from the commander in chief as to what he was going to do and how he was going to do it, thereby putting the lives of American citizens and those who helped our country in jeopardy. And I want you to listen to this next sound by now. I want to get the coach's response on the other end of it from a lady who is Afghanni,

and these are her thoughts on President Biden. Biden, listen to me carefully. You're destroyed, not Afghanistan, but the world. Teliban our best brandsman al Qaida, and I said, all they're gonna do, use our lad to build, don't restart to build that to destroy the world. You you you're right now, you are your on vacation and our country's batting. And why are you on vacation, man, coach painful? The people are truly hurting in in in our country has

failed at his mission. Honestly, my thoughts, I want to get your thoughts because you you speak with some of the most prominent people around the world, and you've coached them through successful they be titans of business, ministers, world leaders. I want to get your thoughts, especially a human perspective on what you just listened to. That was probably the most moving thing I've heard all week, and I have not heard that clip yet, but you know, Gianna, what

comes to mind right away? And forgive me because this was so emotional for me as a father, as a husband. That is somebody's daughter, and we have to put on the right lens and look through the perspective of empathy and compassion because we this is not a political issue. This is a human lives issue. Now, I'll tell you something very powerful, and I don't quote this. I don't quote this without deep reverence and respect and introspection from

my own life. But Proverbs two is something that haunted my soul as I heard this woman's screen, and it says, when the righteous are in authority and become great, the people rejoice. But when the wicked man rules, the people grown and sigh. Could you hear the groaning and the sign? This is a human istic issue. It's about saving lives. These are American citizens on that soil, and regardless, pulling out any sort of protection jeopardizes the lives of not

only men, these young boys, but women and children. And I read a subtitle this week as I was doing my d D and trying to empathize and see how I can better serve this initiative amongst leaders, and one thing read correct with me that the backbone of this annihilation and onslaught is about the gold, the girls, and the glory. That's what the Taliban's agenda is, and it's puts them in harm's way without any resources or protection, and this is now inducing an epidemic that I'm dealing

with amongst those leaders. You mentioned that I coach call deep trauma. Wow, And you can see that because certainly, if for f folks who has been watching the news media, we've seen airplanes, our airplanes, as a matter of fact, our military aircraft with over six hundred people and the most that they've ever known or have on records, there's

ever been on said military aircraft. But you saw people attached to the side of it, and you saw some people as the airplane took off, they were hanging off the side of the airplane and something I think a young boy died as the airplane took off and hit the sky. There. This is You're so right and your words are so appropriate, and I mean really touching and moving what you're saying right now, especially considering the fact that this is the level of chaos that we've not

necessarily seen as a country. Well, I don't even know what the vice president is. No one knows. Where's Kamala Harris, Like, no one knows. It seems as though she doesn't want to have her hand anywhere in this mess. It feels like we're in a leaderless country right now. And it's it's this isn't political. For folks that are listening, Hey, I voted for Trump. This isn't my fault or you know, at least it's better than drump or something like that. You have people that will try to take both sides

of it and make it political. This is not political, folks, This is not This is lives on the line and the reputation of our country on the world stage being diminished day by day, hour by hour, with the president who doesn't seem like he's up for the job, and the vice president who's not answering the call of leadership, and this is where we are. So I would say this if it was Trump, if it was George W. Bush. It doesn't matter about the D or the R by

someone's name. This is an issue that our country is gonna have to deal with the blowback for years to come. Our allies are not questioning could we could they count on our support and that's a dangerous place to be because those same allies can go build new relationships with Russia and China because China has taken over on the world stage. We gotta be really thoughtful about how we want to be viewed for the next ten fifty years.

As America still a shining city on a hill, is it still a big enough hope for freedom loving people everywhere? And it doesn't feel that way, Coach, It really doesn't until not only that, Gianno, it's that if you can do this to them, who else are you going to do this too? Absolutely great point. It is a botched model of leadership, as one Fox analyst had so beautifully sad to use that profound word botched. And I think you are right on the money in terms of we

have got to do some see from my perspective. I look at this from a human performance perspective. We're in the human development business. So anytime you're looking to increase the wherewithal or the capability of a society, everything, Giano, everything rises or succeeds or fails on leadership, man, And that's it, and you're you're the expert for it. And I'm so thankful to have you for this conversation, Sian. Now, I wanna first give our listeners an opportunity to get

to know how we know each other. I initially heard about you through my church, Dr Bill Winston. He had a conference. It's a twenty thousand member church and they have massive conferences where people come from all of the world. People view these conferences from all of the world. Thousands of people come and during one Sunday they mentioned that Ron Kardashian. They flash a picture up and they said, Hey, he's gonna be coming and giving a word to us.

But he's one of the good Kardashians. He's he's a good, a good Christian brother. And I mean he had to mention that. People were like, Wow, a Kardashian, it's coming to the church. What is this about. It was a real consideration as to you know, what, what is this

about a Kardashians coming to the church. So so I learned about you initially that way, and then months months later, if not over a year later, I get a call from um Dr. Winston's daughter, Melody Winston saying, Hey, I think there is a guy that you should talk to and I'll let you take it from there. Well, it was just a beautiful introduction. I think, you know, relationships, Gianna, we need to understand this about our culture that we're in.

There either a bridge or a gap. They're either moving us closer to our destiny or bringing us farther away from it. And when I was introduced to you, I was at the time you weren't even as well known as you were now. You were working on your career, you were developing yourself, and I think the thing that impressed me most about you was your humility and your sense of human understanding, which I find is an absence

in this culture today. You know, empathy is something that is a behavioral trait that and I'll just point to me as a man that and all I always point to myself. I remember if I'm pointing the finger at someone else, I got three fingers pointing back at myself.

But it's something that I have aspired to work on, and meeting you, hearing your heart, hearing your passion, and now watching the success of your hard work with God's favor, with God's favor of course, since you've really done an exceptional job, and I'm equally as honored to be in your life as well. No, I thank you for that, Coach. And you know, we talked about the fact that whether I talked about the fact that you've coded some of

the most powerful people in the world. And I'm not gonna ask you who are some of those people out of confidentiality. I know that you know y'all do agreements like that, you don't expose those people. But why are people so drawn to you? Why is that you think? You know? Ever since I was a little boy, I was the God. There we go again. I felt so emotional to that woman's quote. It's just so this Afghanistan

thing has hit me. So forgive me, but this brings me back to my early childhood when I was diagnosed with attention deficit disorders and the teachers had basically thrown me away. You know, he's no good. You know he's a troublemaker. It would lead to a propensity and a trauma that is a rejection induced trauma, much like a nine eleven victim would induce trauma through seeing world calamity? Are these precious afghanis seeing calamity induced trauma. I faced trauma,

so I understand it. I think it gave me a very sound ear if you will to be a good listener. And ever since I was a little boy, I have been the one in the school yard where the kids would come and tell all their problems to I don't know why Giano. And at a very young age, you know, I had my first apparition of Christ where I was actually visited. I mean I was a bad boy. I just admitted. I always like telling my own trash, got mixed up with the wrong people, got into drugs, got

into alcohol. Dealt with deep shame and regret for some of the behaviors and the way I treated people, which became the caveat though for are you going to do something about it? Which is the most admirable trait of human develop it is that the greatest apology as a change behavior. As some has quoted and um, you know

that has evolved through the years. Um, how I grew up and and here I am now as a senior level executive advisor and executive coach to some of the most beautiful people on the planet, well and some of the most prominent as well. Now you kind of talked about why people are drawn to you life coaching. You know a lot of people they think of it, they say, well, I can just get a counselor what do I need a life coach for? Exactly? And this is this has been your your life's work. How did how did you

really get into that space? Like I hear that people were drawn to you from a kid? How what was what was the catalyst to say, okay, this is my life's work. Well, summing up in a minute, is I had a great desire to be a physical therapist. I wanted to be a doctor. My mother was a was a therapist. Um, she was in the gerontology, which is

care of the elderly. So I was a candy striper in the convalescent facilities, pushing around wheelchairs while I was living my high school athletic life and the cross pollen nation. Between watching the effects of dementia and the age process in conjunction with my athleticism. I mean, I was just this aspiring pro athlete. I wanted to go to the NFL. I wanted to play football. I loved it, I ate,

I slept, I drank it. And then in my junior year as a two year letter I retained an injury in my trap where I severed all the nerves down my spine through the trip ezist, which is that famous massage muscling the back, and I was paralyzed giano from the neck down for about thirty seconds. And I'm laying there on the football field, I can't feel my feet, and I know at that moment I may never walk again. But God, you know this whole but god thing. You know.

They use it as a church que oculum or acute saying, you know, but it's really a true story for me. If this began my journey of becoming the therapist or what I am wearing the title of now strength and conditioning coach to help prevent athletes from furthering injuring yourself. Now here's the parallel. Just for sake of time, you fast forward my career twenty years. I'm still preventing men avoid injury, women avoid injury. I just moved it from

the weight room to the boardroom. And it is the same neurological connections we deal within business and life in relationships that I was dealing with on the football field, and that's my entire practice now. So it really was a life experience that drove you into the space that became your life's passion and work. Absolutely because at that moment, my career to be a pro athlete had ended, but

my passion to help pro athletes had just begun. And oftentimes we will look at our career in our life, or will face the vicissitudes of life, the calamities of life, and say, when I I face serious rejection, well, I'd like to propose a new word for our listeners, and that is your rejection is not a rejection. Your defeat is not a defeat ism. It's simply a redirection into an area where you still are passionate involved in. And my love for pro sports, my love for these athletes

then became my passion. But I couldn't play the game with them, so I prepared them for the game of life. You know what that that's such a powerful statement and it reminds me of a couple of things. One me growing up at the age of fourteen, politics became it was my life, life's work now, but it became a passion of mine because I thought I was helping my mom.

So I got involved with politics because I was riding down the street with my grandfather at the age of fourteen, and I see a lady who looked drugged up and be down, and I'm beginning to tear up because I knew I saw my mother's. Yeah, I knew I saw my mother. And then as we began to continue riding down the street, I looked over. My grandfather looked at me and said, what's what's wrong with you boy? Very southern voice, and I realized this is what lady wasn't

my mother, but it certainly could have been her. And then um from there, I said, Granddad, what can I do to prevent this kind of thing from happening? And he tells me about the elected officials having the power to increase the penalty of law for those who selling distribute drugs and them having the ability to provide grand funding, and that soon after I wouldn't started volunteering from my local altaman because I thought I was helping my mother

that became that life's work. But I think what also that you said is such an interesting point of view, because my grandmother would often tell my younger brother, who wanted to be a w W E wrestler, he shouldn't do that, he should go be a doctor a lawyer. She was trying to put him on the path that she thought was best for him, and I told her, listen,

don't do that. The reason you don't do that is because you don't know if he's gonna either go be a successful w w E wrestler, or if it's gonna lead to him being a manager of the wrestlers, if he's gonna create a new technology for the wrestlers. So to your point, finally, as I come to a close, you getting out there on that football field, having that injury and having that moment sparked everything for you. Everything

that's right. You know, we we said in the church, your tests, your testimony, but do we really pass it? Because the ultimate passing of the test is to fight the fear, the doubt, the unbelief, and if they're shame in there, and Gianna, that's a big, big piece of your life puzzle that I'm sure your listeners know and I know personally that you had to overcome the shame of the inner city you had, you had to overcome the shame of defeatism, and you did it. And your

living testimony to passing that test. And really, that's what an executive coach does. I mean, that's the difference you asked earlier, what's the difference of psychology and coaching. We take a strength based approached rather than a liability approach. And what I mean by that is that we all know that we have liabilities. Again, I point three fingers at myself. I'm the king of liabilities, failure after failure after failure, defeat after defeat after defeat. But I have

coined a saying gianno. And you know this that I have learned through most and obtained the victories in my life not through my successes, but from my atrocities, because it conditions the human soul in a way that seasons and flavors us for what I believe is the most epic time and world history. To be alive, you're gonna need some guts and all the pain that you've been through dealing with life, dealing with policy, dealing with an

invisible government. If I could say, you are developing backbone in resilience and other dimensions, because if we just look at our life through one lens, it's a very limited lens. You're not just a physical person having a spiritual experience. You are a spiritual entity having physical encounters. And how you navigate and redirect those encounters is the outcome of what I call moving from career to call it And that's what you did. We're talking to Ron Cardassians. Stick

with us, We'll be back after the break. You being coach. Ron Kardashian and the Kim Kardashian and the Chris and the Chloe and all of those folks. Those folks are living a much different lifestyle than you. But you have You have the name and the platform to speak righteousness to a nation and thousands of people listen to you on a regular and consistent basis. How does that name

really go into these secular areas? And I'm when I'm using your name because people are often open, They're like, oh, I want to hear what you have to say, versus a normal minister who you know may have a church, and you build you get more people that are gonna be interested in what you have to say just off of that. How has that worked for you in your life and in your your ministry. It has required deep

and prolonged counsel. Let me tell you, it is a unbelievable dichotomy to wake up one morning and you are the subject of thirty million Google hits. I mean, who can who can mentor that? Who who do you call to help process that? Because you get all the haters and the players that come up for the woodwork, you know, which I was exposed to. Now I embrace it, but it was painful at the time. My greatest claim to

fame is my life message. I mean, what the real story is people don't know is that I gave my life to Jesus Christ at twenty two, being an ex addict coming out of the entertainment industry. I'm back down in the bottom of the barrel. I almost oh deed uh at least a half a dozen times. I mean, my my life has been the epitome of pain Giano.

But I experienced it all by twenty two, and in that in this time now I'm forty seven, you know, so I have been on the other side of this, living my life as a first as a strength and conditioning coach, being a personal trainer, working you know, sixty seventy hours a week now to a senior level advisor. But the claim to fame has always been I've always sought wise counsel. And I'll never forget the day Bishop td Jake's honored me with one of the greatest honors

of my life. He endorsed my last book, thirty Second Solution. Didn't even put the tie in together that the Kardashian brand, uh and whatnot. He was really moved by the book. Apparently he bought four hundred copies for his entire staff, and it was about making good decisions. Well, it began the beginning of our relationship. And I sought him out as a friend, as a mentor. And I looked at him and I said, Bishop, I don't know how to process the fame. I've never been interested in fame. It's

not in my wheelhouse. It's fun. It was cool, I said, but I'm an influencer. How do I stay true to my calling? Should I change my name? And he looked at me with that powerful, beautiful voice and said, don't you dare you know, God gave you that name and use it to redeem mankind. Gianno, I never forgot it. And Bill Winston, who has been my pastor now for I don't even know how many years, my only pastor, authentic, genuine, seasoned, flavor, gentle, compassionate,

you know, said the same thing. He said, we will take everything God has given us and use it to bring glory to his name. And that's really all I want to do. And that's really excellent to hear those comments from both pastors. Now, let's let's talk about your book thirty second Solution. Let's let's give folks a rundown of what you discuss. What encouraged Pastor TD Jakes to buy four hundred copies for every member of his staff. Yeah, we can, do you mind if I just up? He said.

Ron Kardashian's thirty second Solution introduces readers to new breakthrough information for transforming old patterns into turnarounds. He used the word dramatic turnarounds. What sometimes happened, they're not was dramatic. Sometimes people just need a little turnaround. For those who want to derive purpose and more satisfaction from life. Um, I think the hub of the book was about poor

decisions I made. Again, you know, I think the greatest form of leadership is you have to have a certain sense of humility, and you have to be able to be transparent, to tell your own dirt that if anybody everybody thinks you're perfect, then you're unrelatable. And in the book, I just talk talk about my transformation process and these what I call cognitive decisions that I had to make,

or brain decisions. For one of the themes of my podcast now you know, as you encourage me to start the podcast, we named it higher, but it was derived from a concept of can you think higher about yourself? And I got it from an old neuroscience education that I had about nerve cells that fire together, wire together. So if you can rewire yourself, you can refire some nerve connections and you can go higher in your belief

system or your your own perception of yourself. And this giano is what constitutes for the greatest breakthrough in life. The battle is six inches between the ears, make no mistake about it. And when you've got materials and tools like my book to help you fine tune that process, you're on your way to a higher dimension. Wow, So you're saying that your book allows people to kind of

rewire their brains to make different and better decisions. I'll tell you one thing I sought out Dr Daniel Aman, who was a New York Time bestseller of Change Your Brain, Change Your Body. You know him, I think you. I think you know of him. We've talked about him before. But he said, Ron Kardashian's thirty second solution will literally help you put the brakes on the brain to help you think before you act, so you can make significantly better decisions. Now. He went on to say that the

brain is involved in everything that you do. So this tools that I developed, I had him authenticated, developed new brain pathways that will enhance impulse control, focus and forethought. And that's something that you've done with me. We've we've enhanced your focus, and we've we've narrowed your lens and

had time to expand your lens. So what has made you such a profound, empathetic um journalist is that you have a worldview, but at time of precision, you know how to hone in on the crossfire, which is an element of vision and focus. And that's what it does. I want to switch gears a little bit because we're now not just in Afghanistan right now with the chaos that's ensuing there, but we're also still in the time of COVID, and there's been a lot of mixed messaging

around COVID people. For a lot of people, they lost either eighteen months or their life which was the start of when the COVID lockdown started, or they lost their life. I mean, it's really that's the distinction. They either lost a team onto their life or they lost their life. And it's horrific that that's where we are, but that's certainly where we are, and a lot of people have been more than pressed than normal because because of COVID,

they're losing their job, they're losing a family member. People have been suffering for quite a while. Have you noticed with your clientele specifically, have you noticed more depression that's

coming about with folks. How are you trying to guide them through that process and for our listeners, help guide them through through the processes, especially in a COVID era, Yes, and answered your question the short answers, Yes, we have seen an increased heightened awareness of anxiety, depression, fear, even the paranormal. I mean my discussions with individuals has dramatically changed.

People are traumatized. Remember that word trauma, I think is the main focus of this discussion we'll have because there is healing for trauma, but trauma camouflages itself around other ailments like insecurity, anger, rage, bitterness, UM. It goes down into addictive behaviors UM trauma induced UM, psychosomatic disorders, the use of drugs and alcohol and pornography. And what it begins to do is it begins to rewire the brain in a very destructive pattern. I want to intercept that pattern.

And even for people who are listening now, can can I just do some executive coaching right here? Live? Please, please, and thank you? Whatent of you can change this moment by what I call using a technique I call called cognitive replacement. And cognitive replacement is a fancy word for saying you have just had a thought that has tremendously

attacked you. You have the power over that thought by not just rethinking another thought, but actually saying out loud, in capturing the thought, by saying no, that is the wrong thought. Wrong, You're not don't think that way about yourself. Don't get bitter, get better, become more proactive in help people instead of slandering them. Become better at being a father rather than being abusive. I know you're angry, I know the money's tight, I know you've been in lockdown.

Change the way you think and it will change your behaviors. And this is something that we hear a lot about right now. I always say that since starts with a belief system, it is a skewed belief system. Now here's what we've done. My whole life work has culminated to develop a tool and the algorithm that helps people capture those belief systems from an internal angle, not just externally.

Tell me about your day, tell me about your life, tell me about your strengths, tell me about your liabilities. These are these job interviews cues that they think are describing the full intel of human ability, potential, and talent. You are way more than just a series of questions. You are an intricate neural connection that has built a web of life from your experiences, in your try aisles, in your victories and your joys and your sufferings, and

it has built this beautiful canvas called human life. When we take a snapshot of a human being. It has done at the neurological level, and it is so powerful Gianno that it instantly brings breakthrough focus and clarity overnight because people are finally able to get a digital read of their brain. And I make a joke out of it when people are arguing that. Not many people do argue, but I did have this one guy goes, what does

my thoughts have to do with my income? And this was an engineer, and I said, are you kidding me? I go everything, you know what I'm saying. It's like

he was so smart that he was stupid. And I told him, you're probably a really intelligent guy, but from an EQ perspective, not I Q and EQ, which is where we assess this is the game changer for leadership, that that ron card action actually became a better person through EQ training, which is the hub of my whole practice now and we're a will to digitize that and show you your brain much like which I was joking about earlier. You get your blood pressure checked, but have

you ever gotten your brain checked? And we can control your blood pressure, and now we have the capability and the power to control thoughts and behaviors through this assessment. Wow, now is this now the the assessment that you're referring to is as a part of your company elevate. Yeah, higher technologies is of what we're doing. I have, I have several companies, but higher, higher um. You can visit

the higher dot net, the higher dot Net. My coaching company is Lee Confidante right French for the confidant, which was influenced by my beautiful French clients. Be guys have coach on three continents um and and it really the distinction was all the greatest world leaders and you know this, Johanno in world history of l had one thing in common. They've had a confidant. Uh. And I've used that word

because people are looking for trust. And back to those early days in high school, I I just was somebody people can trust. And that is the fullness of our coaching company and our technology company is confidentiality. We run a airtight nondisclosure right full en d A on all of our practices. And this assessment is the entry portion to establish. And it makes sense because a lot of people will go to a coachure therapist and they'll say, hey, give me the three sixty view on my leadership, help

me to take my game to the next level. Okay, let's start with just my speculation. We eliminate all speculation. The tool does the work. It maps out the roadmap for your next twelve months, and the the success rate is almost because for everyone who goes through it right, tells somebody else like you've done, and they're going through it and having success. Now we need to take a quid break. But when we come back, I'm gonna ask

Ron about his faith and are increasingly secular cultures. Stay with us, all right, we're back outlined with Gianno carbo I got Ron Kardashian, I'm talking to who's been giving us a plethora of information and actually doing live coaching. Um, I'm so thankful to have him on. He's a personal friend of mine. He's someone that I talked to and rely on for advice. He coaches me, and I'm glad

to have him join us. Now, Ron, I want to ask you before we started talking about more about faith, which we we've been talking about throughout this interview, are there any basic principles about finding meaning and happiness in life that can apply to everyone who you come in contact with regardless of their specific set of circumstances. There anything that you can tell us that we can just take and we can apply to our lives right now, Yes,

I have. If you will email me Elite Level Coach at gmail dot com Elite Level Coach, I will send you these ten keys of excellence as a gift to improve your life in business, and I'll just share with you a few of them, my first one on the top ten list for In answer to your question, and to do some coaching here, exercise maturity. Think about that statement for a minute, because oftentimes we bring old behaviors into new rooms. I coach people on this when they

move to the c suite role. I said, you can't act like a director if you're the CEO. Right, there's a change of cadence in a rhythm. In fact, one of my next books is going to be called Rhythm. I've written three, I've got I've got three more, four more to go. One of them is on developing the rhythms of life and understanding the power of frequency. Because there's so many immature business dealings, people and things. The world is in need of leaders, and not just industry leaders,

but world leaders. They are in need of maturity. I think we all understand that pretty well. Um Number two isolate your business around a cause. Uh, this is what I call organic motivation. It's naturally generated, Giano. I wake up every day alive and well, without the use of cocaine or meth and phetamine or stimulants. I watched my coffee and take now, why I'm driven by a cause? The cause of something you would die for? Do you have a cause? The Bible even says is there not

a cause? It whispers in the echo of the night. Are you doing more with your life than just acquiring wealth to heap up? Or eventually moths and dust will call corrupt? This is this is what's going to happen. This is the stark reality of our unlimited wealth and success. Is that if we're not multi platforming and how we're building a life, both here on the earth and in the heavens, then we're missing the essence of life. And

which leads me to my third point. No matter how much money you have or don't have, live your passion or someone else will live your passion or somebody else will. And how many times do we look at other people and go I could do what they do. Why are they so successful? I could have done that, I could have invented that. Well, you still can see this goes back to cognitive placement, is where you want to stop the belief system and say no, no no, no, I'm not

going to think about what they've done. I'm going to pursue what I'm passionate about. That's it's just a little quick, thirty second fix that you do repetitively, because remember, the brain is a muscle. You either condition it or it dies. And so whenever you get stuck thinking I can't change, just remember that's what the overweight person said before they lost a hundred pounds by saying I'm finally going to go to the gym every day. It's the same thing.

You've got to condition yourself and you've got to know that. Thoughts are things, which leads me to my fourth key, and I'll just I'll just give five of them. Focus on things that add value to your life and increase your health and make you a better human being. Focus on things that add value to your life. That includes relationships. If you've got toxic people in your life, if you're

constantly making deposits and you have no return. There needs to be some quantification and clarification there not that you need to say goodbye. Don't let the door hit you with a good lord split you. You know, as we used to say, You know you don't want to just walk out on people's life, but you do want to have some restructuring in order to establish healthy boundaries. And lastly, I'll just give you one more which is one of my favorite ones. I give to c e O s

all the time. And even entrepreneurs who are starting their businesses, don't waste your time hiring people to fill spots or basis of their degrees. If you want to make the big money, you're gonna have to pay the big money. In other words, honor people that are valuable. If you feel right about it, hire them. There's one thing that very wealthy people all have in common, Gianna. They all prize personal development as a core value. If they don't have what they want, they'll find a way to buy it.

And in a world filled with stellar advisors like yourself, you can have a Giano Calldwell, you can have him on your administration or your boy or or working for Fox or what you know, as you do that's why they have you, because you're valuable and honor people with that value. I promise you it'll come back a hundredfold. Wow, you've given us a number of keys. I'm sure people are going to be emailing you. Those are really wonderful

and good practical applications. But I think also importantly staying away from toxic people. I think that's so critically important. You want to hear actually the medical scientific proof of this now, I would love to. This is unbelievable, Johno. This this validates my whole life work as a coach, and a salute to other coaches and therapists and pastors out there as well. There are wonderful people out there.

The There was a study done at the Heart Math Institute that said, when an individual is speaking with deep intentionality, the DNA helix follow this. Now, the DNA helix inside the ear of the hearer begins to move up and down.

Now the key there is deep intentionality. So to your point, if you've got somebody who's slandering God something angry, that's intentional, that is, with deep intention the DNA helix is actually transforming in the ear of the hearer, and you are being actually rewired, follow this, rewire to re fire, to

go lower. With the antithesis of this, if you're hearing someone with deep intentionality, like I'm on the phone with you every week, right and we're talking about positive belief systems, are outcomes to business or strategies and decisions you want to make, and we're flavoring and seasoning things with salt, and I am in speaking to you with intentionality, much

like I'm doing right now. The DNA helix inside you is transforming to say, I can become better, I will think smarter, I can think a different way about this situation, and inevitably, Gianno, it produces a better outcome all the time. And the name of that, that term again is the DNA helix inside the ear of the hearer, so in in other words, inside your actual DNA strand you are being transformed, either for the better or for the worst. You're either going higher or going lower. And if you're

staying the same, you're just coasting. And we know if you're coasting, you're roasting. If you're coasting, now, let me ask you, this coach, how important is it to look at the problems in your life as possible gifts. Very good, Very good. Well, you know, great question, right, very good question. Very you my producer, he gave me that, so I won't take credit for it. You gave it to me. That was that was one of his questions. But how do you how do you look at that? What are

your thoughts on that? Well, let's just parallel this into a very humanistic example. Okay, if you want to build your body, there's gonna require some weight training. I mean, everyone looks at these most beautiful bodies. We just went through the beautiful Olympics and we saw the performance of the most decorated athletes in the world. How did they get there? Pain? No pain, no gain. And I think what happens in our life is that we are required

as human beings to constantly be pivoting in life. This is what makes a great CEO is the power of the pivot, and that while we deal with heinous or detrimental or painful situations in our life, we must train ourselves through the pressure, through the pain of life to pivot and have an outcome psychologically that I'm going through hell, but when I'm going through it, I must not stop. That there has to be a wherewithal inside you that says this will end. And that's the beautiful part about

it is that life runs in cycles. And when you have the knowledge that your life is cyclical, you know that this is a season of your life, it is not eternal, and that will keep you motivated and inspired even in most dark as time, even if it's the thought of one day this will end and I will be better from it. That is something. You really can turn these these issues of problems into your greatest benefits, right because you deal with them and it no longer

is an obstacle. Right. And and sometimes you have to deal with issues before your greatest moment hits. Sometimes it may be a young lady, say you're dating, and you realize like, oh, man, she's a good girl, but you end up self sabotaging it. And from that you realize, like, man, I need to deal with this issue, this problem that I have, which can be trauma from previous relationships, abandonment issues from dealing with your mom or father or whatever

the case may be. You have to deal with those before their greatest opportunity come, which could be uh in my case, a wife or uh, you know, someone else's case. A husband. Uh, So dealing with those issues, those problems um as we perceive them, can be uh the alignment for the best opportunity to come directly to us. This is it's pulling, pulling those opportunities to us. Would you agree with that? You know? Gianno, let me tell it to you as Bishop T. D. Jake said it to me.

I can't say it as eloquently as he did, but I'll try. Pain becomes the silent fraternity that brings the most peculiar people in the most inclement situations at the most peculiar places in time. Think about a rehab center. You're sitting there, encircled in a private fraternity of strangers, discussing issues that are the deepest in your heart, but you know nothing about the other person that you're sitting with. Pain begins to become the trajectory for life's next level

of development. This is what I mean about. You have to have a proper perspective about pain, and most of the time people don't have the tools, and that's what we provide for them. This one tool for your listener, for you, Drew is no matter what you go through in life, what I want you to experience right here, right now, live is the simple notion that whatever you face in life has an expiration date, and your to

massage your mind with that message. Bathe your soul. The soul is the mind, will and emotions, and if we let it get out of control, it will lead us down to paths of disparity. It will lead us into areas where we don't want to go. Use the tool of understanding that this has an expiration tape, and I must keep moving forward this simple tool of cognitive replacement to say that every day, sometimes every minute, sometimes every

second begins to spark an internal hope. And I have seen people turn their lives around and come through things. Not that it's going to be easy. Whoever said it was was lying. Life is difficult, success is difficult, but your perspective at the end of the day is the game change. We're talking to Ron Kardashian. Stick with us, we'll be back after the break. I wanted to talk to you very very specifically about the role that Christianity

and faith is taken in the country right now. Many many folks are noticing how the church attendance isn't the same, and this is pre COVID when we start seeing the numbers go down, and we've seen a nation that's increasingly secular, a president who actually just adopted language in his healthcare budget saying that instead of calling women mom or mother, who're gonna call him birth in person a birthing person. So they're trying to they don't want people to be

called dad. They're saying it's sexist, and it's it's a lot of things that are going on in our country right now. Is that it is quite frankly alarming. And I know that you have two kids, I know you have a wife, and you gotta be concerned. As a minister, someone who's preaching the gospel, I would imagine I should say that you would be concerned about what's going on in and for our listeners, I want to I want

to take people back to a moment. And I'm just so glad that this thought hit me because i want to ask this question. This man has been very accurate. I'm talking about Ron Kardashian and I'm going back to something that happened in It was a Saturday. This tape came out about President Trump, he was running for president.

It was to grab him by the p tape and the Republican Party was saying, you know, we're thinking about, like trying to figure out if we can replace him, if maybe Mike Pens could stop up, or is Mike penns gonna continue to run with him. It looked like political suicide for everyone around. It was no chance that he can win. I had just spoke to the number three at the r n C and he told me, I said, you know what's going on with Trump. He's like, we're looking at our options. We're trying to see to

see how can we get him out. So I talked to Ron this Saturday afternoon and you all probably remember because it was all over the television, and I said to Ron, I said, yeah, it looks like Trump has done there's no way that he can win. And what did you tell me? Ron? I had told you that I heard. I heard very clearly in my own prayer time that he was going to take the presidency the gravitas. And once you delivered the message, I was like, this

guy couldnt know what he's talking about. You said, no, the prophecy has went for Donald Trump. Donald J. Trump will be the president. And I'm like, run this type. You said, it doesn't matter, he will be the president. The prophecy went forth, that's it, Donald Trump is gonna win the election. And for anyone during that time on that day to hear what you say would just think that you were either completely crazy or you were just like uh not into politics and such an amateur that

you didn't know what you were talking about. But you ended up being correct. And I just wanted to bring that moment back for the listeners because that was one of those very powerful moments and one of the things that stuck with me to this day. But moving beyond that, from a perspective of being a minister and being a faith man, are you concerned with the direction of our country around faith? No, not at all. We are serving a supreme God who makes no mistakes. Predestination is not

a theological word. In this is the proper perspective to stop you from induced trauma. The media is trying to traumatize you. Trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma. We're gonna go through the whole Greek alphabet in these pandemics trauma, trauma, trauma, vaccine, no vaccine, trauma, trauma, trauma. We have to learn to center ourselves and really see who we're serving here. Giano, he makes no mistakes. He is the Alpha and the omega. He is the beginning in the end, he is the

first and the last. He preordained it and new through every area we would walk through. And living with this consciousness gives great consolation and peace of mind to a believer who is abiding in the vine. The fake ministries are done. It's over. You're either in or you're out. And I say this with deep conviction because I'm hearing from him, and I'm not the only one. There are millions of people hearing from him, because my sheep hear my voice. But I am seeking him, Giano. I'm on

my face every day. You know, Back in the day, in the Old Testament, there were two very famous men, Daniel and Joseph. These were political advisors. These were men who consulted the king and in modern day translation, they operated in what we call a Daniel or a Joseph annointing. I operate in one. I used to be ashamed to say it. I get and I get visitations from him, and I'm very cautious what I speak. As you know, I don't have a podcast that blast this. I don't

believe in it. I am cultivating what I'm hearing. But I'm gonna give you one more if I can share one live. I have not shared this publicly yet, and I'm gonna make a day you and I'm going to share something if you give me permission that the Lord has told me. And this is why I don't want you to be concerned, ladies and gentlemen. He is the Prince of peace. And we're in calamity. We're we're so filled with anxiety and and over the counter drugs and prescription and CBD oil and th HC and coming and

my God slowed down. Breathe, breathe in gold and ex O green for your salvation draws near. He said. If the man had known his house was gonna be robbed, he would have never fallen asleep. But stay awake. On March thirty one, I fell into a deep sleep. I am nothing special. I don't know why he chose me. I am nothing great. I'm just a servant. I just want to honor my wife and my kids, man and help some people before I go. That's it. That's the

simplicity of my life. But he chose me, He's chosen some of you and he visited me in a dream where I saw Christ. I was standing before him, and I looked to my left, Giano, and I see these two lines. And now, if you read Matthew, which I encourage all your readers to do, this is the parable called the Ten Virgins. Jesus in this vision hands me this piece of oil. It was a block of oil. It was a piece of chrism. I've studied this out and it was a thick oil. And he said, place

this upon your wound and you will be healed. And what I got from that was is God is sending an oil to the nation. You can't white knuckle this, you can't fight it. He has got a plan, and he has an anointing, which in the Hebrew Lexington is an empowerment to prosper. You've got to get it. These ten virgins that open up at the time of his coming didn't have enough oil. So hold that there. Five virgins had oil, five didn't. We didn't have enough oil. We gotta get more oil in the tank, Coach, how

do you get more oil? Prayer, listening to the word of God, committing yourself to him. But here's what scared me. That's not what scared me. I looked to my left and I see these two lines, and I immediately knew that they were the righteous on the right and the unrighteous on the left. And if you end Matthew, it is called the Great and Terrible Day. There were two lines, Giano, and I was standing right in the middle of them both, and I actually felt for a split second, I didn't

make it. In about a hundreds of a second. I felt the emptiness in my soul, thinking to myself, I've spent all these years making all this money. I've spent all these years trying to do the best I could and to live my whole life, which is, by the way, an eighty year lifespan is only thirty thousand days. That's only seven two hours. I lived my whole life for this moment, and here I was about to lose everything. And in the blink of an eye, he looked at me and he said, I've got to attend to some

other things. And I was awakened, and I had knew at that moment that there is coming a distinction, a choice that we all have to make, and we're gonna end up in either of these lines. My call to action today is not buying my programs. It's not another self help book. It's a simple prayer to say, God, show me what you showed Kardashian. You help him, you can help me, because ladies and gentlemen, you do not want to be in that line, the end righteous line.

He will have to say no to the creation he loved. There is no more grace, there is no more forgiveness, there is no more turning back. It's it. It's over, it's done, and everything we've ever done in our life is coming down to a thirty second decision. Will you accept him as Lord and say, help me, give me the anointing, give me the oil to help me make it through this life so you can save yourself in that one day of judgment and it's coming. Man. Uh,

that was quite the note to leave us on. I want to thank you Ron for delivering such powerful words throughout honestly, and I gotta tell you, even in your your last response, that that's what we need to use part of that last response to promote this episode because it was, I mean, just very very powerful message there. Because we have become traumatized by the media on a daily consistent basis. That's how they make their money. Click click click click click, and and and and the time

does seem near. We it does feel like we're in the last days. The Bible and the Scripture is clear on that. But the good news is it's not too late for people to repent and ask God for forgiveness. No matter what they've done. They can continue to repent and get on their face. Remember that, and remember, just to intercheck for our listeners, the word repent is not that old school word. It's just a change of thinking. Giano, a new neurological can action, nerves sells it, fire together,

wire together so we can go higher. Thank you so much, coach Ron for your words today. Thank you again for joining out loud with Gianno calledwell coach Ron Kardashian, and please tell everyone your websites, your social media handles. I can be in touch Ron Kardashian dot com. Ron Kardashian dot com. Don't list the end for the b It's not Rob, It's Ron Ron Ron Ron Ron Kardashi. No, my cousin, God bless you, Rob. You listening to my brother. But and then of course I'm on Twitter, but the

main one that we're hanging out on is LinkedIn. That's where all the professionals are for at least now. Thank you so so much for joining me on out loud with Gianno calledwell. That has been a fantastic ride. Yes, sir, my honor, thanks, my friend. I want to thank Ron Kardashian again for a great interview. If you're enjoying the show, please leave us a reviewer rate us with five stars on Apple Podcast. To hear more of my episodes and get my weekly newsletter, go to Genglish three sixty dot

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