Up next, out Loud with Gianno called part of the gang, which switch. Remember when Joe Biden was supposed to be the man to bring the American people together, the moderate savior who would unify this country. Yeah, I don't believe any of that either, and needed that I believe it to begin with. This is out Allowed with Giano called Brow. Welcome back to aullowed with Giano called Brow. I'm really excited for this week's show. My guess is Brian Killed Mead.
One of the most well known political commentators in America today. Brian hosts the nationally syndicated radio show The Brian Killed Me Show weekdays from nine am to noon on Fox News Radio. You can also see him each weekday as the co host of Fox and Friends. Beyond radio and television, Brian is the New York Times bestselling author who has written several books on American history, including his most recent book, Sam Houston and the Alamo Avengers, The Texas victory that
changed American History. Today, Brian and I are going to talk about the biggest issues of the day, immigration, race, politics, culture, and much more. Let's go today on Allowed with Gianno called While I have a very, very special guest, someone who's a bit of a mentor to me, someone who endorsed my book Taking for Granted, and he was one of the first ones to say absolutely, I'll do it. Brian Kiell me thank you for joining me today. Is such a pleasure to have you on. Go get him Gianno,
congratulations really your success. Thank you so so much. So. I want to start by talking about Prince Philip. As everyone knows, it was breaking news last Friday that Prince Philip had passed, and I know that there was a bit of a flare from the mainstream media suggesting that you um said that he might have died because of the Megan Markle interview with Oprah Winfrey and Prince Harry. They say that you're saying that they contributed to it.
Can you run us through what your comments were? Uh, you mean on the show, Yes, on the Fox and Friends terrble. I mean, if if that's my grandfather in the freaking hospital, I wait on the interview or don't publish it. And evidently he was outraged by it, so it's part of the story. So that's why I speak spoken about it. Yeah, and the media is running crazy with it. I want to talk about your trip to Texas of not long ago. I guess it was last week. You went to Texas and you did a tour with
Commissioner George P. Bush. What did you learn from your trip to Texas? For people not in Texas, it's not a big position. For people who live in Texas, it's a huge position because literally it's the land. Is the development of the land, especially for oil, gas, wind, solar when you talk about developments, industrialization, ports, So it's a launching pad for a career. And he obviously is extremely ambitious, but humble guide typical Bush. And what he's saying is,
I'm fighting when they win. Joe Biden opened up those books and signed those an executive order putting a pause on oil and gas, and his job is to say, that's unconstitutional. We out of state here, we gotta be able to do this, and please give me a reason
why you're pausing this. And the other thing to keep in mind, too, is that when you pause oil and gas and federal land, you're destroying Wyoming in New Mexico, because Wyoming is something like their land is federally owned and thirty five to is New Mexico, and that's the democratic run state. Right now, why would you first destroy them with border issues? And number one and number two come back and say, well, you still make a living
And what are you talking about? Because this is agenda driven. Now, what's in the best interests of the people in the country, Because if you want, you could tell everyone to stop with oil and gas. Let's do that. Let's feel great about ourselves. Just so you know, we're gonna be buying it from the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, which obviously they have a problem with, and then Russia, who I don't
know if you've heard, they're not the best neighbors. So now we're going to be buying from them, fattening up their accounts instead of making Americans successful. So I wanted to go out and cover that story and find out the human cost, and the human cost is tremendous, so immediately it's affecting the economy. During your trip in in Texas, I know you also discussed immigration while you were there.
Fox News recently reported on the ranchers in places like Texas and Arizona finding bodies of dead immigrants on their properties. We know many people in Central America have been encouraged to try to enter America illegally because Joe Biden is in office. What do you make of the Biden administrations immigration policies and what lessons, if any, should we learn from the Trump administration on immigration. I'll tell you what.
Whatever you think about the Trump administration, they admitted there was a problem, they made mistakes, they fired people, they hired people. They've moved it through. They going through two secretary defenses, they went into other areas. Uh, they were trying, and then when you showed up, the border patrol was allowed to take you through. I mean I was literally doing interviews with the border patrol while people will walking up on them, families turning themselves in. So I don't
feel like I was being lied too. I was seeing a situation that we needed to be handled and they couldn't find a way. But eventually they got it right to remain in Mexico with Mexico's cooperation was genius. The way the President said I'm gonna put tariffs on you unless you start reigning in your your southern border, and they said, well, in turn, I will give you financing to let these people apply for citizenship in your country, and then we'll decide if they stay come into our country.
And they said all right, and then they put twenty thousand troops on their southern border. They said that was impossible. Then they passed this other role that says, if you're going to apply for citizenship in America, the first country you crossed into is where you apply. So they were crossing into the next country and applying, okay, and then
they went ahead and started building the wall. That doesn't work, then everyone needs so they were doing it, and then things dropped dramatically to the point where I'm saying to myself, why is Trump not running on this, Like why is he not bringing up that we quieted down the border. But what happened is it became a non issue. Almost reminds me of when McCain got the domination. It's because he supported the surge in Iraq and we eradicated ISIS
or are on route to eradicating ISIS there. But by the time he got the nomination was running for president. The big issue was the crashing of the economy. I almost felt like Trump, you fix the trade, you fix the border, too quick. It's not even on people's minds anymore. So there is so much that Biden's doing that is wrong.
Saying I'm being in humanitarian by letting kids stay here is inviting tens of thousands to come here and risk their lives to get here and to drown in the Rio Grand River in route, or to be taken advantage of by coyotes, or having families say the best thing I can do for my kid is to sell my house and send my kid to America because he gets
to stay. So everything they're doing is so shortsighted, and the fact that they're ignoring it, the Vice presidents refusing to do anythings that make one phone call getting a total pass on it. Yeah, and they're there's projecting that there's gonna be over two hundred thousand unincompanied unincompanied children coming to the southern border, and we're not hearing a
whole lot of conversation about that. So it provides a problematic status for the country continuously because you're bringing people in, you're inviting a man, as Joe Biden did, and certainly he's endangering these families. Johnna. They're not letting us talk to the border patrol people, they're not letting us into the facilities. Why is this media so compliant. Why are they okay getting the heisman? Well, where where's the anger? I mean, Okay, you don't like Trump and you're Democrats.
I get it. If that's the case, it clearly is the case. But don't you have pride in what you do? I mean, as I said, Trump was willing to have a bad story told because he didn't think he was to blame and he was trying to fix it. Whatever I had access, I literally they said to me I could fly down with the Secretary of Defense and do whatever story I want. I flew down there on the pen on the Secretary Defenses plane, and they talked about how they were gonna use both the Defense Department funds
and HHS funds in order to stop immigration. But they didn't tell me making a positive story. I said, let me just tell the story. They okay, yeah, if you want, you can hop on their plane. And I was able to do interviews on the plane on the way down there. Now I don't I don't think, not only couldn't you do that? Now you're not even allowed to talk to a border patrol person. If they're caught communicating with you, they get fired. Wow, So things have changed. Extraordinarily in
terms of getting the story out. We haven't seen people like AOC make some of these bizarre and extreme comments that you made with regards to the Trump administration, even though the Biden administration uh has really encouraged the displacements of these children. So there's no safety, they're just coming over and you've got a lot of smugglers still in the space that are profiting off these families. Is really disgusting. You're paying taxes on daily basis, you're gotta buy something,
you're paying taxes. You're writing a check at the end of the year, you're paying taxes. Uh, you know you work, you know how hard you work to get this job. If you sell a sponsorship on this job, you get a percentage of it. But if you ever get paid paid as a freelancer, which when when you do a book or a speech you get paid as a freelance, you don't take any taxes out. That's when you understand how much of your paycheck goes to taxes. And now in New York, of all your money is going to taxes.
If you're in the higher tax bracket, why why am I working for half the year? All right? But I understand, you got to tax, you gotta ge roads, you gotta get subways. I get it, but is totally out of control. Highest in the country. If you're writing tax checks on these taxes at the around now every year, how do you feel about New York putting two point two billion dollars worth of some of which is your tax money aside for people here illegally. So now they're getting up
to sixteen thousand to come here. It's a magnet. Number two, I've never seen something. To qualify. You have to prove that you don't exist. I promise you, I don't have any idea and I snuck in here. Please give me sixteen thousand dollars. What country can afford to do that? Can I answer that? None? What country would do that? None? That wanted to be successful and sustainable? And now we're thirty thirty trillion dollars in debt. People say, well, you're
you're a rich country. You should be able to know. We're not. We're we're overspending our budget. And if I'm going to overspend, it's not gonna be because I'm going to the clubs and partying and taking littles home. It's gonna be because I'm doing something that's gonna benefit your life. And sometimes you're overdrawn, go too much in your credit card. But to go over for this reason, it's to me
unacceptable for for America. I agree with you completely. Before we move on, let's take a quick break back in a second, and I want to switch gears a little bit because there's something really big going on in the news, Baseball's decision to move this All Star game from Atlanta due to the backlash against the law. As a former sports commentator, you know, I I got some thoughts about what you may think because I've I've read some of
your stuff. But how ridiculous could this actually be? When six of African American support voter I d American support voter I D the companies to say that this is racist. I think it's ridiculous. I think you just took a hundred million dollar investment from the black community and and put it over to where else where. There's not a lot of black folks in Colorado. It's not a lot of black folks in Denver, Colorado. So wokeness is a new shot in the face because you're taking economic power
away from a community that needs it. To see Jim Crow and how ugly it is part of America's past. No one ducks it terrible. Don't ever justify it. Please, I don't know anybody that does. If they do, they're probably whispering it somewhere in some back alley. I never hear it, but to say that this is Jim Crow on steroids. And now you're saying it's worse. So you're saying segregated life, several segregated neighborhoods from eighteen seventy on down where if you want to vote, you better pay
some money. When you want to vote, you better take a literacy test. When you want to vote, you can have your life threatened or you could actually lose your life to vote. So people, uh minority communities weren't even doing it. To compare this law and these these measures to that is so beyond logical, practical and accurate. I can't put into words. So Georgia does this openly. They're happy about it. They pushed back on Trump and they made some changes and they said, well, you're trying to
rule out before it's even done. Stacy Abrahams comes out and says, I want to say that this is Jim Crow to point out, wow, is that insulting number two? Number two is what don't you like about it? Just tell me who you don't like about. Just go to bat on these measures. You're very popular, you have a
lot of power. Tells who you don't like. So as you look at these measures and read this bill and then you hear what they explain on almost each one of them, it makes total sense to me what I'm saying is and I believe if you put from what I know of the Georgia officials, I only know him from television and radio. But if you gave them a lie detective test and said do you want everyone to vote accurately and fairly? The answers yes. What they're guarding
against is fraud. They're not guarding against people voting what they're doing in Texas. They're not saying minorities stay home. There is a sense that they've lost control of the process on the unsolicited no excuse balloting. They these ballots are and apartment buildings where people haven't lived in four years. There in licenses when people leave, when they leave college there Obviously there are just changes. If they didn't request a ballot, the ballot will just sit in that dorm room,
in that building, in a house. It doesn't belong and people might pick it up, fill it out, send it in. What do I have to lose? I hate Trump, I love Trump, I loved Rondo Santis, I love Stacy Abrams. I'm gonna vote for Brian Kemp. That doesn't make anybody feel good about the election process. So expanded hours. There's seven and seven. They've always been seven and seven when it comes to mailing in a ballot. No excuse, balloting is new, okay, so you don't have to tell say
you could be in town, it doesn't matter. But they just want to have an idea on this. As you just mentioned, seventy pers out of the country is for it, of non whites, of African Americans. Wow, okay, so they want to but know what they're saying, don't worry about the signature verification. So that was controversial last time. They said, let you throw it out. Now that Brian kempt do a good job explaining that. No, they're able to say
no water on the line. But for the President to come out and say that's sick is to me something that Trump would be raked over the cold for saying so that's irresponsible. It is irresponsible. Do you get the feeling that black folks are continuously being exploited not just bout the Democratic Party but the mainstream media as well.
It just seems like everything is a narrative and beyond just what the political aspects of our of it is, black folks end up being this disenfringised, a marginalized some way. And that's by virtue of these MLB taking the game out of Atlanta. You lost a hundred million dollars in your community businesses that needed it, especially after a year
with cold. They also bring up that they're gonna honor Hank Aaron in Atlanta the year they he died, Uh, you know, celebrating he is the true home run king. In my mind that they're not gonna do that in Colorado. If they do, no one's gonna care or not enough, not as much as Atlanta. I want to say a couple of things. I don't want to. I think the stereotyping I thought was a problem. Why am I stereotyping
on immigration that it hurts blacks or minorities? Isn't a stereotype to think that all African Americans or might not that modern our communities are working class or at the bottom run I don't think that way. But people just say, if you let the illegal immigrants in, it's gonna hurt minorities. No, I don't know. I mean, does it hurt the CEO of the founder of b ET, No, it doesn't. I don't like that. To me is the generalization that should not be acceptable. And number two is why is it
acceptable to believe? Why is the conventional thought to believe that minorities don't have I d S. I think that's an insult. What do you think black folks can do the to kind of stop this? And I'm kind of reminded of someone who book or T. Washington, And I've been reading his Up from Slavery, his book Up from Slavery, and seeing how he was just one of the greatest
intellectuals of that time. African Americans respected him, White folks respected him, and his idea was, if we can just secure the right education and economic freedom, we can be quote co equals in this country. And black folks. If I look at Black women specifically, they're one of the most educated groups period. You see a lot of black CEOs. Now you see a lot of folks in senior positions.
But yet and still the same issues of the early nineteen and seventies, nineteen eighties, nineteen, early two thousand's people are still there's still a sense of a fight and black folks not being equal with white or there's injustices. And I know that there are injustices. We see that, But some of this stuff is being used as a political weapon. Is not all totally true, just like the
Georgia Law. What do you think folks can do the sound the alarm and say stop mar generalized in us, Stop saying that we're basically so stupid that we can't get an I D we can't afford it. What kind of stuff isn't so much? I remember doing talking about slavery and the the original sin and George W. Bush talking about that and the horror of it. Nobody ever, no pun intended, but whitewashed it. Ever, uh No one
ever talked about saying that reconstruction went smooth. Ever, when I read Booker T. Washington's Up from Slavery, one of the best books I've ever read, the story, I love the fact that it's not his biography it's his autobiography. It was his words exactly. So what he found out is, yeah, people, you know, people who brought up and they just assumed that certain color skin made you were smarter or better.
And then the people started realizing that's washing away because there was a sense that if you do not you know, uh, that whites were smarter than blacks. It was only that our of education. Booker T. Washington was somehow that was instilled in him. He was determined to get that education Aian, and when he did, he studied both cultures. And when he built the Tuskegee School, he watched the orderly way in which white farmers would plant their crops opposed to
black farmers. He watched as whites were helpless after slavery because they had absolutely no skills. He actually felt bad for white because they couldn't do a thing themselves. They couldn't build a house, they couldn't take care of a farm, they couldn't fix anything. Um and the African Americans had all the skills, all the trades. So what he said is we're gonna do both. I'm gonna teach you to build stuff, and I'm also gonna teach you to know stuff.
So they're building buildings and built the Tuskegee School. But he found out is if you could be a benefit to people, that's the equal that's the equalizer. And they would make the wagons that would be transportation back then and just drop it off in the middle of the town and say, hey, is this from the Tuskegee School,
And they would become great neighbors. And then little by little, this preconditioned preconception of slave me and blacks being better than whites and whites being better than blacks just would fall by the wayside. There'd be people and that that we were on our way, and those people who are ignorant would be stepped aside. I'm not gonna focus on them. I'm gonna keep moving forward. And when I address a white audience, I'm gonna have the same speech as a
black audience. I'm not gonna change my message at all. And if my goal was to have a president speak at an all black school, he made it happen. Got William McKinley to show down and give the commencement address. Everything that was seemed impossible, he made happen. In the time in which I still think it's impossible, and he did in eighteen seventy, eighteen eighty, right, he did it. I mean, we were making so much progress, and I feel now there's a there's an invisible force forcing us apart.
I'm just like a loss for words because it seems as though the energy has definitely dialed up. We saw what happened with George Floyd last summer, and everyone knows that it was a tragedy. Uh. You saw a senator attempt Scott come out with the police reform bill, with which the Democrats pushed back against because they hit their own agenda and they wanted to use it as a wage which issue for the election. But it doesn't appear
that things are becoming better. Even though the wealth gap is closing when it comes to African Americans between the whites and black college education is up. It just doesn't seem like there's that is making much of a difference in our country. So you mentioned people are apologizing for white privilege. No, they're apologize it for being white. It's it's there's a difference, you know there, there's there's a distinction there, and it's it's become really awful for people.
And I wonder me as an individual who doesn't have kids. I'm not married or anything like that, yet, like, what kind of country will my kids grow up in if this is what we have right now, and it just seems just overly divided to me? Yeah, I mean it's just overkill. I mean, if there are sections in America
that think it's eighteen, what's straightened them out? But I really believe most of America respects you as much as you might respect me, and might be disrespectful to you as much as disrespectful to me, but not because of the color of your skin, and not because of the color of my skin. Some people like, yeah, the one thing I know for sure is that guy Brian killed me and I hate him on Fox. I never he was cognizant of color. And I think a lot of it has to do with number one growing up lower
middle class, not further closer to lower than middle. Number two is playing soccer. It was such a you don't understand this, probably, but when you play soccer in the nineteen seventies, nobody was playing and almost everybody was so called foreigners or minorities. And even when I went to college, I was one of four Americans on my college soccer team. And would you you never see Cohen? You say, well, I got three Israelis over here. They're gonna be good,
hard working midfielders. I got a Greek guy in the back. He's gonna be a great sweeper. This guy is from Somalia. You know he's gonna be great foot skills. I don't know about his in durance. And then you got somebody from Jamaica or Tobago. Straighter that to Bago, I'm gonna tackle in a way it's gonna cut you in half. I didn't do that to label people. I just said that's what's gonna make a great team. I never saw color. I saw the culture and I loved it. You know,
we had three guys from Tobago. All these guys people I just mentioned that made up our team over the next four years. Had two guys from Greece, one guy from Colombia. The whole back line was Jamaican and the other guy was from Huntington Long Island. The goalie was from Huntington Long Island. When you play sports, it really gives you an education on where a team, what's it gonna take. And that's the way I've always looked at it, and now they're forcing everybody to see black and white.
Even that United Airline story. We're going to now fifty of all new pilots are gonna be minorities. And I'm thinking to myself, Well, if I'm a minority, I wanted to be a pilot. I don't want it to be because you made a policy. I want to be the best guy. Right. No, our hundred percent agree with you on and that we need to policy. Here for a
quick break, but we'll be back in a second. You know, being black, growing up like I did on the South Side of Chicago, I think a lot of times we were taught to view life through the prism of race, because oftentimes they would tell you, listen, you're gonna be discriminated against. You're not gonna get the best opportunities. You're not gonna white people are gonna look down on you.
These are things that that are taught. These aren't things that you you just grow up believing, you were born into believing that you weren't going to be the best. These are things that you're taught. And we live in a society and a culture which continues to perpetrate that narrative and say, because of your color, especially if you're black, you're you're gonna be insignificant to do these major things
that so many other people have done. And it's something that I would have thought would have changed by now, but you continue to see it in ways that can be micro. So United Airlines, Yeah, it's fine to have diversity. The most important thing is safety in the airplane. Can you do the job first and foremost? And this is
what it doesn't. So let's say that Giano Caldwell wants to be a pilot and you apologize and the United had an opportunity to go in there, And do you want people in that class saying well, Gianna only got here because it was a quota. No, you want to know what you're great to a great You know you've got great perception. It has always been your dream. Can I please have my dream back? Please? Can you please? You know, I'm just astounded about some of the logic here.
Is Democrats now control the federal government. The left control so many of our most important institution is the media, academia, Hollywood, increasingly athletes, and now even corporate America. How do you see our culture changing in the coming years as a result of all the leftist control and what role does
Joe Biden terrible? It couldn't be more disappointed. I think, I don't want people are listening to this, but for him to now put together a thirty six person committee to study fattening the courts, for him to be writing checks one nine trillion dollars, essentially bribing people to vote for him and then putting two point two trillion in there and pretending its infrastructure. We basically we elected AOC. Everything that's going on is way to the left, and
I don't think the country is there yet. My worry is they're being bribed. They're being bribed with tax dollars, tax tax dollars, and he's gonna get credit for as we come out of the pandemic and vaccines or shott into people's arms, and then we'll be able just to go back to work, not asking to reboot where in two thousand and eight we had to go back and go find with the bad new banking system will be
and find new careers in some situations. But now we have to just go back to work, go back to that restaurant, go back to the department store, Uh, go back to go back to your apartment building. Uh, and now go back to your workplace. And that's gonna put the economy on turbo speed. My big worry is they're going to say that these policies gave us that and and this kind of economy was blown was coming back. I don't care who was president because of the pandemic. Yeah,
I think that he's gonna gut defense. That's what I think the legacy is. And it gout defense at a time where China doing the exact opposite. It's death. It's death to our superpower status. Speaking of China, to pick pick up on that point, recently, they threatened the United States if they boycott at the Olympics. They said that it would be a robust Chinese response if the US
was to do that. I think Joe Biden kind of cow til to that because at first there was at least reports that there were conversations with our allies about boycotting because of the human rights abuses in China. Joe Biden is clearly showing weakness to China. Why do you think that is? Yeah, I mean Anthony B. Lincoln was the recipient, but did give some back in Alaska. I'm mildly encouraged by him. He talked about the go to
the Asian Accord, uh, the Braham Accords. Um. He did talk about how NATO is paying more than they thought. That's really a tribute to Trump. He's leaving the tariffs in place, which I like. It shows that tariffs did work and all that criticism was all politics. But they are really belligerent to come into arts on our soil and talk to us as if slavery was taking place in our country. They because you have a huge problem
with Black America. They're being slaughtered on a daily basis, and equate that to what they're doing with the Muslim weakers as if it's eighteen seventy or eighteen thirty. Is unbelievable, but it shows you are all politics are hurting us internationally, but they want to beat us. Our advantages, we have innovation, our advantages. We need to be challenged and uh, if you give us a common enemy, we can rally. Hence the Soviets in every way, shape or form. So we
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