Closing Arguments with Newt Gingrich

Welcome back to Outllow with Gianno Calledwell. I've got a big show for you today and just a few minutes I'm going to speak to the one and only speaker, new Gangridge about the election and what comes next. But first I want to thank my listeners. It's been officially one month on air and the numbers have been massive, So I want to thank every one of you who continue to tell your friends and family about Outlowed with

Gianno Called Well and share the show. I also want to thank you for following me on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook at Giano Caldwell. If you haven't followed me yet, please do so right now. In addition to that, I know that there's been a lot that has going on this year. We've come through COVID and we are actually

still in the pandemic. We've come through riot and looting, We've come through um protests about racial justice, which I think are very important protests, and now we're at the forefront of what's going to be a very new year and potentially a new administration. I'm hoping that President Trump is gonna stay in office. Personally, his policies have been very beneficial to me. I'll be very honest with you, But now we have a choice. That choice is do

we go with Joe Biden or Donald Trump? And honestly speaking, I think a lot of you are going to choose Donald Trump, not because you're listening to me and I'm a conservative, but because you recognize the value that has been added to your life by way of those particular policies. I can never understand why a guy would run for office, and I'm talking about Joe Biden and say I'm gonna

raise your taxes. It was reported that over four hundred and fifty thousand businesses have failed since the beginning of the pandemic. It makes no sense to even imagine the pain that many families are going through right now. Those who can't provide for their their children, those who can't send their kids to schools because schools are closed in

some of these states. The fact that in a state that I lived in during the pandemic, and I'm talking about California, where they shut everything down around me so I had to escape to Florida, I can't imagine the pain that so many of you may be going through at this time. But now we have a choice. We can either go with four years of prosperity and hopefully get the economy back on track and move forward. As we've seen last week with the GDP growth, things are

changing and finally getting back to where we were. Or we can raise your taxes and maybe at more regulation and see a transition of the old industry. As Joe Biden said in his final debate, I think the choice for many people will be clear, and the choice for me is already clear. And I got another interest when

I talk about the presidential election. I was talking to a friend of mine just the other day about this race, and she was informing me that she doesn't like Donald Trump, which I knew she didn't like them to begin with. She's independent, but she's liberal, but she wants to see Donald Trump win. Why because she's African American and she believes the Democratic Party have taken for granted the African American community for far too long. Donald Trump has invested

in the black community. We can talk about policy measures like the First Step Act, Opportunities Owned Fund for historically black colleges. We can talk about the Platinum Plan that he's looking to implement if he's reelected. We can talk about all of those great things that he's done. And to me, although I don't like some of the things that he says or does personally, I think he says some things that are insensitive. I don't like everything that

he tweets. So he's not gonna be my favorite in terms of kindness and being a nice and gentle person, not at all. But when it comes to policies, I'd rather have that over the rhetoric of the Democratic Party, which have often said all the right things but never have delivered. I like that moment in a debate where Trump was asking Joe Biden, you've been around for forty seven years, why didn't you do an these things? Then?

Why didn't you do it? As eight years as Vice president? Joe, why didn't you do any of those things, and he honestly didn't. He didn't have an answer to it, because that's what we've become accustomed to, all talk and no action.

But I think if there's enough black voters that actually support Donald Trump, and I really believe that there is underbelly of individuals who have had enough with the Democratic Party, whether they like Donald Trump or not, if there's enough of those folks significant enough all of a sudden, instead of Black folks just going to the Democratic Party just

because that's what we're used to doing. Now you have a community that two parties, Democrats and Republicans, are fighting over your vote year after year, and at this point they both have to deliver. They both have to say, this is what I'm offering. What do you think instead of, oh, Republicans are racist, you should just vote for me, which is one of the stupidest things that you can imagine

people saying right now, and it's a dishonest statement. So I want to tell everybody this is the day before election, no matter who you vote for, because I know I have some liberal listeners as well. I know because you guys message me on Twitter and also dm me on Instagram. Whoever you vote for. Just get out and vote, but know what you're voting for. Look at the histories of both candidates. Turn off the news and actually read about them. Don't be told what there is about those candidates. The

media is negative against Trump. I understand that. I get that. Just read what is really there. Understand what Joe Biden is really saying when he says we're gonna do a transition when it comes to the old industry. We have to have a clear eye view of what we're voting for. But at the end of the day, just vote. That's the most important thing. This is out Allowed with Janno Caldwell.

New Ginger represented Georgia's sixth district in the US Congress for twenty years and served as a Speaker of the House from rich was also a Republican presidential candidate in twelve so he knows what running for president is all about today. The Speaker is not only chairman of Ginger Street sixty, a full service American consulting, education and media production company, but also the executive producer of this show that is outllowed with Giano Caldwell and the Gingerish three

sixty network. He's featuring exciting new conservative voices, very young folks bringing different ideas to the conservative movement. He's also a bestselling author, and his most recent book is Trump in the American Future, Solving the Great Problems of our time. Mr Speaker, is certainly an honor to have you on the show, and thank you for believing in my talents. Seeing the numbers have been looking very good, so I

hope that you're very happy with what I've been doing. Now, just to jump in, of course, we're one day before the election, and I am so intrigued to know what are your predictions. Mr Speaker. I say before I get

to the election that I'm very excited. But how you have really grabbed this moved with it, got both great talent but also great conversations with a great talent, I think here at the beginning of a long and very successful career help Americans explore themselves, to discover themselves and come together in ways that's very different from most of

what we currently have in the podcast world. So it's a great honor for us at English Street sixty to have this kind of a relationship and to have some small role in helping bring out what I think will be a national and ultimately international talent that people will look forward to for many years to come. So I'm delighted to be with you and to go to your question blessing one words for you MS to speak from

your speak Thank you. Sure, No, I'm I mean I've been watching your development and I think you've got the rhythm. You have a sense of what this is all about. I would just say, although in twenty four hours, whether I got it right. I think that Trump will win. I think some states will be pretty close. But I think the weight of his organization and the level of ay of energy there there isn't much positive energy for Biden.

There's a lot of anti Trump energy for Biden, but there's not much she I can't wait to go vote for Joe. The fair number say I can't wait to go vote against Trump. That's a different issue. And so my guess is that Trump will I'm just gonna go away out of them and we can have a do another platf I'm totally wrong. We'll do another podcast later on a painfully learned lessons. But I think he's probably gonna win with three electoral votes. I think that he

has begun to consolidate and the people. The way I describe it, you have a bunny rabbit who's hiding in a basement, and you have a bear who's stalking around the country talking to crowds of twelve, fifteen, twenty thousand people. This is a dangerous world. And when you really get down to it, that the true anti Trump voters already decided they're not even part of the campaign. They're gonna go vote no and try and vote for Biden out

of default. But every everybody who has not yet made their mind up that there's a reason that they can't quite bring themselves to be for Biden. And I think it's because in a world is really dangerous, having a bunny of ravenue highs in the basement. It's just not a sense of security. And while Trump has some rough edges, the fact is he is like a bear. He's courageous, he's aggressive, he may make mistakes, with the mistakes leaning

forward and trying to get things done. And I think the sheer contrast between these you know, entire days where where Biden goes off and Biden ends up seeing five or ten or fifteen people, four days where Biden does nothing and they announced at nine o'clock in the morning that they have a lid on it because he ain't doing nothing. He did. He had five out of six days just before the last debate where he didn't do anything.

You can't be president one day out of six. And I think people who have not already decided that they are going to vote against Trump are almost all I'm gonna end up voting for Trump. And that's exactly what happened in two thousand sixteen, when all the people who couldn't stand Hillary but really weren't quite sure that they wanted Trump, and they got down to the last day or two they said, Okay, I'd much rather take the risk of Trump than have Hillary. And I think the

same thing is happening here. If they were going to be for Biden, they're basically almost all there now, and the ones who aren't there are are wavering and feel deeply that there's something so profoundly wrong with Biden that even if they don't like Trump, they can't vote for Biden.

And those folks, I think well overwhelmingly break for Trump, which is exactly what happened four years ago, when people who made their mind up the last three weeks overwhelmingly made their mind up for Trump over Hillary, and my predictions will see exactly the same thing this trip. That's a great point, Mr Speaker. Let's continue the conversation on the other side of the break. First, he is a word from our sponsor. That's interesting you said, and we're

one day before the election, but you said undecided. That's interesting one day before the election you think there's still people who are undecided. And and it's a two pronged question here. You mentioned three whether electoral votes. I'm interested in knowing what you believe the Trump path the victory is. I think this was so the path to victors to get more votes through what states though, is what I'm referring to. From the electoral college. I think you can

basically run the table. He has an outside chance, which I'm don't totally believe in picking up one one vote in Maine because the main like Nebraska, has a provision where East Congressional District has a vote. Last time, Trump got that vote. This time, I'm not convinced, but he might. But so that's when I put off to one side.

I think that he will carry Pennsylvania. I think you'll carry North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, North and South Dakota. I think Minnesota, for the first time since nineteen two, is going to become Trump. I think that the combination of the violence in the cities and the degree to which everybody outside the cities is just alienated for the Democrats and sees the Democrats. If

you are a San Francisco Radical Kamala Harris. There is a place which is I think it's called Red Hat Minnesota, which has a bakery which has every four years had the two candidates and cookies, and they have consistently. I think that since seventy two they've picked the winning Canada based on the number of cookie sold. And this year there as I guess its red wing that read in red Wing Minnesota this year so far, as of about last Thursday, there was ten thousand Trump, three thousand Biden.

So I know that sounds childish with probably I think Wisconsin is a dog fight. There's an absurd recent Washington Post a pole that said that Biden was seventeen points ahead in Wisconsin. That is totally impossible. Would be the equivalent of suggesting that will be twelve dinosaurs walking down the street in Madison. It's just not possible. It's an example of the left wing poles that are designed to make us feel bad and give up. So my guess

is in the end that Trump will carry Wisconsin. He will then carry Michigan by a surprising margin, and we will elect John James, who was an extraordinarily attractive Senate Canada. We may also, by the way, elect Jason Lewis, who was Senate Canada in Minnesota. And again it's design on how that state is shifting that the Democrat incumbent senator

cannot get above about these polls. While she's technically ahead of Jason, she can't get And there's a good there's a good rule that if you're the incumbent, the votes tend to break against you, and center races and House races not as true for the presidency for other reasons. So coming swinging back around Ohio, I think it's gonna

be solidly Trump. Missouri will be solidly Trump. Colorado. I'm afraid we may lose, which is really sad because we have a great candidate running for election there, and Corey Gardner, I hope he can. I think he'd have to run three or four points ahead of Trump to win. I hope he can do it as a great candidate, has been a great senator, and his opponent, former Governor hick and Looper, has some real weaknesses, both on ethics issues

and on shown dealing with China. I think we will carry our Arizona and in the process, I think McSally will get reelected. She'll beat Mark Kelly. The astronauts, She's had four astronauts adores her against Kelly, and Kelly has a problem of doing business in China which has been eating him up. He has some other minor problems. New Mexico's one that's in my judgment up in the air. I was not have listed New Mexico except for Biden

having come out on fracking and oil and gas. The southern third of New Mexico was very heavily oil and gas, and Trump is doing better with Hispanics everywhere, so it is conceivable, Mr Speaker. I don't know if I would agree that it's a long shot, especially I wrote a pile dot com which I encourage everyone to take a look at it and talk about the mysteries of election. In the hitting Trump vote, we've seen a real dollar of support for a President Trump among Blacks and Hispanics,

Hispanic men and Black men. And he's over thirty I think it's thirty five percent when it comes to Hispanics, and we're talking about for a certain age group, those who are forty five and under, and certainly the dynamics have changed when it comes to black folks in general.

Eight percent is what he got in of black men, and now we're looking at numbers well over twenty percent according to eight and I think those numbers are even higher if I'm being honest with you, just from the energy that I'm continuing the consistently here from the black community, I think that there is a desire to break the back of the Democratic Party, especially a young among young people, because Democrats has not been addressing the issues of the

black community for a decade after decade, and you get a guy by the name of Donald Trump who comes around and says, what do you have to lose? And I often switched that around and say what do you have to gain? And we can talk about the policies. The first step back opportunity zones, et cetera. It appears that there's going to be something at least significant enough to make a difference coming out of these communities. Do you disagree with that? No? In fact, I'd be very

curious before I tell you my analysis. What's the kind of language? What words do younger blacks, he used, when they talk to you about Trump and Biden? What are the descriptive words? Well, they like conlaining, when they liked these anti establishment They appreciate those things. When I hear from black folks on Joe Biden, they often talk about

the ninety four crime bill. You ain't black if people remember that when he said, that's Charlemagne and godd a radio show host he said, if you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or for Trump, then you ain't black, which was incredibly insulting. But he said numerous other things that have been insulting to black folks over the years. He didn't want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle. It's a lot of things that he has said, which I think his candidacy is

the supreme insult to black folks. Joe Biden. That is so it's really interesting to me how things are turning out, and I think personally I'm actually writing about this now. Finally, I think it would be great if Donald Trump won in part because of the dial ugue of support in the black community, which I think forces both parties did too come to the table and say here's our best deal. This Democrats, this is the best deal. Republicans, Now, who

do you choose? We need to make the black vote competitive again, and it hasn't been since L B. J. Say do you have these? In words? Voting Democrats for over two hundred years. When I first arrived in Georgia in the nineteen sixty campaign of the African Americans in Atlanta voted Republican because the Democrats were the party of segregation.

And then John F. Kennedy helped ed Martin Luther King Jr. Out Of prison in Albany, Georgia, and that galvanized the black community and literally in two years and had switched so that they were six Democrat two years later. So these things can happen if suddenly there's a conversation in

the community. I'm told that Trump's answer at the debate when he and through the prison reform bill, he went through historically black colleges and universities, He went through help with eight thousand opportunity zones in poor neighborhoods, and and he walked through the unemployment level of the lowest level of unemployment in the history United States for African Americans was in February. And when you added all these things up, I am told that literally the next day there was

about a twenty points shift in favorability. And you know that the media is negative against Trump. That's the reason. So he used his platform very well in that final debate. I think that's right, and I think that that's part of why I'm optimistic. I think again, you never really know these insen having been in lots of campaigns. When you're in the middle of a campaign, you're surrounded by people who agree with you, so you can very easily talk yourself into the idea that we're gonna win. And

in fact those are only people immediately around you. It's a huge country. There, three million Americans, and so I might see thirty five people and think that's a cross section.

I've always reminded of two stories about that. One is the candidate who is going around knocking on doors, and talking to voters, and he finally reaches this one door, and this guy shows up with a can of beer in his head, wearing a T shirt and looks down at him, and the guy says, uh, I am when I'm running for state legislature, And as guy's sort of

bouches and says, you're really that guy? He said, that guy is such a stupid, unbelievably dumb I can't believe you're really him, and slams and slams the door, And so as the candidate walks off, he marks the bottle list undecided. When you're the candidate, you have such a will to be optimistic. The other JAPPO I had that Mike Deaver, who was Reagan's communications director. I used to tell the story that everyonece in a while Jim Baker

would call him. Baker would was Reagan's chief of staff and then Sector of the Treasury in sect State, and Baker would collins. People were talking about maybe I should run for president, and Deever would say, flying first classy on our AGM, because people who flew first class would identify with Baker, whose earliest memory was waking up what heret by the rail road car but average everyday people.

The people who elected Reagan had no clue who Baker was and didn't particularly want somebody who was an aristocratic lawyer from Houston to be the next president. So just an example of the psychology. So I may be suffering from it because I'm so intensely pro Trump, but my gut instinct is looking at and I look at data all day, every day, seven days. I think that there's a migration towards Trump right now. I think it's accelerating.

The report on Thursday that we were at in Cree annualized increase and the gross domestic product that is such an enormous jump that it's very hard for me to look at that kind of data and not concluded. In the end, Trump's gonna win, and I think probably gonna win much bigger than anybody with you on that. And I'm just interested in your point of view on this because Democrats, I think every since you've been involved in policies, they've made every Republican just about to be a racist.

They've often said that I grew up believing that, and so I learned the truth, and I begin to research for myself how big of a heart will race play in this race, because they really are riding and training on that thing all day long. I'm talking about the Democrats, and in terms of calling Donald Trump a racist, I think that the Democratic leadership is terrified they have used racists. Remember that up until the mid nine sixties, the Democrats

were the party segregation, you know. So if you're gonna find about racist stuff through the nineties, six is Jim Crow, one of the one of the Democratic Senate leaders have been a leader in the ku Klux Klan and had a very eloquent statement about it by Joe Biden and how wonderful he was. Yea. So they couldn't attack us as racist during that prayer because they were literally the racist.

And then they discovered that if they didn't have some new things, they needed tools to attack us with, and they needed tools that the would block the black community from thinking because the truth was, the Democratic leadership wasn't delivering. They weren't delivering on jobs, they weren't delivering on public safety, they weren't delivering on education reform, and they couldn't because their ideology and their interest groups basically had them in handcuffs.

So they had to find some really powerful emotional attack which would allow them to scare everybody back together and they can say to you, all right, so we didn't get the pothole fixed in your street, but those other guys are racist, or yeah, the child down the street was shot in the drive by shooting, but those guys, other guys are racist. And their hope was that if you could yell racist long enough that it would let

people would stop thinking. And what's happened. I think, I don't know how much this is Trump and almost it's just the natural end of a cycle. What what's begun to happen is people are saying, now, I'm not going to accept that all of these failures are because the people who aren't in charge, and all the people who are in charge should be re elected even though they're

total failures. And that's beginning to lead, I think, to real tension in communities around the country as the younger people are really deeply dissatisfied with what they're saying, and they're saying to the old order, look, if you guys can't deliver, I'm not sticking with you, and that if I were a liberal Democrat right now, I would be terrified by the numbers that are seeing on both African Americans,

and I'm sure that they are. We know when you mentioned young people who talk about Generation Z, that's twenty five million of them who have become voting age in this particular cycle. So there's a lot that's going on, and we've seen a high number of young folks that are are participating in this lunch election in the early vote. Let me ask you this question. So in early votes, and we're talking about absentee votes, and say this the state of Pennsylvania, I think it was about eighty thousand

of those this last primary. This year there was over one point five million, and now we're seeing what seventy million plus mail in votes that are going in. And of course people in about seven states they can change their votes. I think Michigan and Wisconsin are two of those states to the big screen stakes where they can change your vote. Are you concerned about voter fraud? And President Trump to said if he lose, that's going to be the reason because of voter fraud. Are you concerned

about that? Yeah, I'm particularly concerned in Philadelphia, which is the center of voter theft in America. I'm concerned in Nevada, where the Democrat governor and legislature have changed the rules to make it almost impossible to have an effectively honest election. So there are places where I'm very concerned. I'm concerned in California, where they have really developed this whole ability to vote harvest, where you send people out and they basically say, look, I'll be glad to take your your

ballot to the boat. You can imagine going to a nursing home and you've got fifties, sixty seventy people who really aren't paying much attention to the news anymore, and this nice guy comes in and offers to help them, and then that nice guy gets to mark the battles and that So that, to me, is a really impact on the election. Do you think it may? I think the challenge for Trump is to win big enough that they can't steal it, and that's that's a nation of

the game. I think we've learned a lot of this. If in fact, we do win this year, will be much more aggressive and insisting on having honest elections and having honest accountability. And I would think that a newly re elected President Trump would have some kind of election. I would hope that he would, because it seems as that we can see some legitimate issues from here on out, because folks after this particular cycle are going to get comfortable voting by mail. I think, especially when you see

the long lines tomorrow. If you're going to wait in line for ten hours to vote, then you may say forget it next time. I'm just gonna vote by mail. Mr Speaking. We have to take a quick break, but when we come back, I'm gonna ask you a few questions from some of our listeners. Please stick with us in this portion. Want to get to the questions from

our listeners. I went on Twitter and social media in general, and I encourage everybody to follow, of course Speaker new Gangridge on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram, and of course me at Giano called Will on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook as well. And I put out a request to folks to send in questions because of course, when you have the great Speaker new Gangridge and your miss you want to get

as much out of them as possible. As many questions Um answered, and I got a good question from Glenn and California and it reads, even if Trump wins, won't we still be facing the same problems as a country in how do we correct course at Americans want to change their country. I think, look, you have to face the fact that this is gonna go on for a while, and then we're gonna have to develop new solutions to

deal with new challenges. I suspect it will be a bill next year that will make it necessary for people who want to fun terrorism and who want to fund violence and looting, that they've got a file that where the money comes from, and that I think people will be a great shock to some people. I suspect, in the long run, will make it illegal to fund a group who overtly wants to go out and either kill police or burn up neighborhoods, et cetera. Will I say

that's an unacceptable approach. But there's a professor George Mason, which is a generally conservative school, who has been arguing that we're going to have an insurrection against the government that comes very close to treason and a certainly sedition. And I think that you'll see us get much tougher as a country just in defending ourselves, because these people are gonna be so radical they won't give us any choice except the defenders. Yeah, I agree with your assessment there.

I got another question here actually directed it me from Debbian Mayor Land, and it reads, if Trump wins, what should he and his cabinet do to grow the number of African American Republicans into a real movement. I'm gonna give my thoughts, but also would be interested in what you have to say, speaker, So Debbie in Maryland, here's

my thoughts. It's been an interesting rod and a way that Black Americans have been educated on the history of the Democratic Party, and as of late, I think we've seen a number of young people have really dialed into that history and now they can see the distinctions between both parties, which is good news because the Republican Party started in eighteen fifty four was in opposition to the Cans of Nebraska Act, which wants to expand slavery, and

Republicans have been a part of every civil rights bill since, so since they started as a party, and we saw Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, and we saw even LB J's Civil Rights Bill, it was Republicans in the Senate that helped pushed it forward. So I would say in terms of Donald Trump, who has paid an enormous amount of energy and attention to the black community. We've seen groups like blex It, We've seen groups who are leaving the Democratic Party in droves. People are absolutely waking up.

And what I would say, whether win or lose by Donald Trump, the Republican Party should absolutely pick up the baton and continue to invest in communities like they did with the Kimberly clay Stick of Baltimore and by the way, she's been on allow with Gianno called wills to check out that episode, and they should continue to invest in places where we normally don't see Republicans. You can't say we should change the party if you're not investing in

the actual change. So those are my thoughts. What do you think, speaker, I think, first of all, this is so one of the things you're not going to see in the elite media. There are forty three a African American Canadates for Congress this year in the Republican Party, a number of whom are clearly gonna win. So we'll have the largest delegation of African Americans and the Republican Party since reconstruction. We also, I think I personally believe John j is gonna win in Michigan. I wish we'll

give us our second African American senator. I think we have a whole new generation of talent coming along that I think is very exciting, and of course you're part of that. As part of why we were so excited to set up these podcasts because we really think that we're right at the custom of a moment to have new conversations with new people, approaching things in new ways,

and you certainly fit that in every possible way. And I'm really looking forward to the kind of guests you're going to bring forward, the kind of education you're going to offer people who listen to the podcast. I'm very optimistic now. I also happen to think that the eyes are much better that Trump will get reelected than people think. So I'm very comfortable facing what I'm doing on a premise, and then I would say, in seven out of ten features,

he's the next president. That's Those are some rate odds. And I've been seeing you all over the channel, which were both colleagues over a Fox News channel, really providing an explanation, and it just always begs the question, how could the polls be so flawed? I understand why they were flawed in because posters only pulled people who voted in the previous two elections. Now you have an enormous amount of people who have come out to support Trump

and said, now there's a bit of an update. And I'm hearing that there's even more folks who didn't vote in the previous election that have came out. They didn't vote, so than technically three elections that that are out. Now, how do you think the polls are so flawed? I think the polls are flawed partially because they and I want to draw a section there. There are four or five polls that I can recommend that I think are actually pretty good. Trafalgar is one of the Susquehannas. Another

one insider advantage was the third one. I would say rasmuson about eighty percent of the time tends to be pretty good. Zogby about eighty percent of the time is pretty good. The Institute of Democracy, which is a joint British American operation, is pretty good. So I look at those, and then I look at things like which party has registered more people? And you find in almost every state that in the last four years we've registered more Republicans

and Democrats. I'm looking at things now when we're just a day out and I have analyzing who's actually already voted well turned out in state after state. We are doing much better and we were in sixteen. And that doesn't mean we're always out voting the Democrats, but it means that the margin of their advantage is smaller. And then I would say that there are two huge problems

with the what I'll call the socially liberal posters. The first is that they refuse to try to find ways of identifying people who will not tell you the truth. When you have a candadate who is being attacked by the news media relentlessly, people just won't tell you they're gonna vote for, but they'll go vote for. And interestingly, the University of Southern California, LA Times people figured out if they ask you what are your neighbors, what are your neighbors likely to do? And if they ask you,

who do you think is likely to win? And then they take those two as indicators of how you would vote if you're being honest. They've done this now for about twelve years, and they consistently get more accurate than just saying who are you going to vote for? And they just came out last week and said that they believe Trump will carry the Electrical College and be real licted. So there are a lot of things moving in that direction.

But part of my answer is I read endlessly. I try to read everything I can find, and I'm always open to some idea or some piece of data that shakes up my preconceptions because the world's big and precated. And now thank you for that, and I got I know, we gotta let you go. But I got one last question from the listeners is this one comes from Joey in Chicago, and it reads, in the state of the country where you see black men who are shot unarmed, what is it that we can do the whole law

enforcement more accountable? And I got some thoughts on that, especially when we're talking about police reform. Was Senator Tim Scott certainly put forth from the Democrats blocked this so they can continue that they can run on it for this particular election, which was extraordinarily insane to me. And it shows you that black lives don't matter the Democrats. Black votes do. And I'm really interested in getting your take on this, speaker, because I think a lot of

people are concerned. I'm not talking about like a situation in Philadelphia which happened last week where you had the young man with the knife that was launching at the two police officers that shot him, or the guy in Atlanta where you had he had a taser, he got the taser from the police officer and shot him. Not those instances, but legitimate instances where police did the wrong thing. How do you hold those individuals accountable? Is it legislatively

or what do we do? I think that the key to that is to recognize that you have to be vigilant as a citizen, and the citizens have to come together. And part of the just just said don't feed me

belowe me. I watched this interview in front of the U. S. Senate where the head of Twitter came in and the stuff he was saying was just crazy, totally dishonest, and finally Ted Cruz, the Center from Texas, couldn't take it anymore and it broke in and been slight violation of Senate language rules, said, who in the hell do you think you are? You're not an elective official. You nobody gave you this power or this authority. I think all of us, and I'll tell you, we've been living through

a public health dictatorship. And I think presently people are gonna start standing up for their rights. Gonna say, wait a second. Under the First Amendment, I have the right to protest, I have the right to petition. I have the right to assemble. I have the right to free speech. I have the right to religion. And I'm not gonna let any governor use some excuse to take away my constitution liberty were we are very few months away from that becoming a move, but much bigger in terms of

holding police accountable. Is that a legislative move? Is it should that happen in the vehicle? No, that is let me draw a dissension. First of all, I think individuals have to hold people accountable. Second, I believe every policeman should be wearing a body camera, and I think that should be integral to their job, and that we should have an automatic ability to review an incident and try

to figure out what it really happened. And I think if people if that were done quickly, because one of our problems now is because of defense attorneys and various court decisions, it takes too long to get to the facts, and we need to have some ability within a few hours so that communities begin to relax and say they're actually going to come out and tell us the truth. You've got to have video before the rioting starts, and you got to say give us three hours or give

us four hours. We're going to report to you. But you can't say give us seven weeks. People just want time. Then the other thing. I think. The other thing is if I can be so blunt as an older white guy, the black community has got to stand up and say, if somebody is approaching a policeman with a gun or a knife, they're putting their own life in danger. So it's not just so it's not this one sided policeman shot a man last night. Well, yes, he's a man who was coming at them with a knife, who had

openly said he wanted to kill some policeman. And Frank of the cops are probably scared, speaker. And what I'm hearing you say, I get you loud and clear. I think President, uh, not President maybe President one day. Tim Scott, Senator Tim Scott his his legislation on police would provide exactly that body cams and that would be a great vehicle for common the community and ensuring that there's justice

for all. Thank you for your analysis on that, and I want to thank you for coming on out loud with Giano Calls well, and certainly for believing in me as I mentioned, and bringing a providing a platform for me to get my thoughts out and bring folks in who are very distinguished like yourself, to get their thoughts on the national dialogue, whether it be politics, culture or just a fun topic. I'm very thankful to you and Miss Debbie Meyers, my other executive producer jo. I'm very

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