Podcast with Captain Borax!

Hola! Hang on. How's it going, man? Pretty good, man. Who who you got there? Is that Joaquin? I mean uh Joaquin and uh Clinton? Yeah, it's Quentin and uh Jacob. Hey, what's up, Jacob? Both you guys, I mean, everybody. Hey, hold hold on a minute. All right, man. So this is the Outlanders of Utah podcast episode two. We got uh good friend of ours and uh YouTuber Captain Borax Capula. How's it going guys? That uh sounds like a little choppy to me, but um

I can't no. We're good, man. I mean we can hear you pretty fine on this end. I mean we're fucking recording it though. Garage putting in the garage and it's fucking cold as shit, but we're we're making it happen. So Oh yeah, man. Yeah, dude, it's like I would say maybe like twenty something. It's it's like a little bit of flurry is coming down, but I mean it's

It's a little fucking chilly, yeah. Fuck that man. In here it's probably like 20 something. Fucking three spices in here fucking trying to keep warm and shit. So what's up yeah what's going on with you man

Not a whole lot, man. Just been doing some uh running around today and um lots of stuff. I mean, uh lots of different projects. uh working at my school and tons of stuff. Man, I uh spoke with um uh one of Ted Bundy's Uh the uh Laura Amy, one of his victims' niece today, I spoke with her. And I'm gonna try to contact her mom tonight, which was Laura Amy's sister. Oh shit.

Yeah, pretty wild. Um uh interesting stuff. We'll see what comes out of it, but Uh it's um uh trying to trying to put together I mean this this contact kinda kinda fell in my lap, so I'm just gonna kinda call and see what plays out. I don't have a specific agenda to Yeah, I try to make the try to make the most of it, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't have anything specific to to speak with her about, but I mean I I certainly discussed her her sister's case for

uh ridiculous amounts of time. So it'll it'll be interesting. Sounds like there's a lot of old photographs and different things that um that they might be able to contribute. Oh, that's pretty cool, man. I mean I mean yeah man, that's why I used to I used to you know tune into your stuff when I first started you know I just found your channel by chance, you know, you fucking go above and beyond like the basic fucking documentaries and shit. So it's pretty cool to see, man, you know.

Everybody everybody always says that. Yeah, I just stumbled on your channel and I'm I'm thinking f what the fuck am I doing wrong? No, no, no, no. Actually I was I forgot what I was doing. I I was like looking at s I think I was looking at something about Richard Ramirez and the Uh one of your videos it was your video for uh Melissa Smith actually. Um Midville. You're right outside of that uh that pizza joint that uh Joe Joe Curry what is it? Yeah, is it Joe Curry? No,

Joe Morley's. Yeah, Joe Morley's barbecue, you know, and I was like, oh, what the fuck? I'm like, this guy's in Utah. And then I was like, I was kind of bullshitting with uh Jacob and Quentin. I'm like, I'm gonna hit this guy up, see what he says. And sure enough, man, he actually responded, and I was like, oh fuck. Like the fuck? Like, that's pretty cool. But yeah, man. I mean, so uh

I mean I I know it must it it must get a little old man talking about Bundy and shit. So if you don't want to we understand man but uh Yeah we got plenty of Yeah we we I mean like this con this fucking this podcast is like unfiltered, you know like So you can talk about everything now, but I I'm sure it does get a little old after a while, you know, people ask you the same fucking questions and shit.

I just hear I hear Quentin mo uh uh bow uh muttering something about spix in the background. That's fucking good

I don't mind I I don't mind talking about the Bundy thing. You know, I mean it's uh it's certainly Uh certainly a lot to talk about and and uh You know, you can you can talk about one thing and never talk about the same thing twice. I mean the Yeah, that's a crazy bottom. You figure he did a lot of his stuff. I mean, besides Washington, I mean here and I mean, I'm sure he's done shit that no one's even fucking touched yet. Like who knows, you know? Yeah.

That's a good point. I I think I think we're uh we're not really who hey we're not hearing the whole thing. Uh You know, I mean there's probably stuff we don't even know about, absolutely. Like the whole uh like I never knew about Lynette Culver, like the whole Idaho case. I never even knew about that one until like I yeah, I think until I I I actually stumbled on your channel like

I knew I knew about Utah. I didn't know to the extent of how much, but I knew he had been here. But uh yeah man, like it's just goes to show me fucking Colorado and Yeah. They were even saying that like they couldn't even think that he was in fucking like upstate uh California. Yeah. You know, so who knows? Yeah, I um yeah, supposedly there's um there's you know there's a lot of talk about

uh a California victim, uh for sure at least one uh in the San Francisco area. But uh it's kinda funny. We uh we tracked down somebody a while back that uh was uh it supposedly the California San Francisco victim that was uh that had happened shortly after the assault had happened shortly after the Bundy's girlfriend had dumped him. She was a you know, what and she still lives out there. She's a basically a socialite, wealthy socialite from San Francisco, and she she dumped Ted.

And um, you know, there a lot of people think that, oh well, that he was so upset by that that he went out immediately and killed somebody. Um which i w y you know, sounds a little a little um

Like fantasy land to me, but I mean it's certainly possible. But we ended up uh contacting somebody uh because We got some strange information about the address and it turns out there was a girl who was killed who lived it who lived nearby this address but uh it was kinda bad we got them excited uh about the idea of giving some closure to the case but i the girl wasn't even killed anywhere near

Ted Bundy's girlfriend's house. Oh shit. Um Yeah, it was kind of weird. And it wasn't me. I I didn't do this and I didn't pursue this, but Yeah that that's that's one reason uh it's always good to be a little bit careful with these cases because

Uh i y it not that, you know, there's certainly anything wrong with um contacting somebody and ask you know, asking if we can help them or anybody can help them, but uh but it's good to have your your facts screwed on straight before you get somebody excited about uh reaching some sort of conclusion with some of these these cases. I don't know, it's a long story. You're probably like, what the hell is he babbling about? But no, no, no, man. I that's the thing though, like

With a case that big, I mean, anyone could really just say anything and right away you got people that'll just go out and like uh what's her name, Rhonda? Yeah, Rhonda Staple. Good old Rhonda Stapley. Yeah. Yeah. Um it's such a wide, wide case that Um you know, I mean it's uh the problem with it is is there's so much uh There's so much um misinformation. Um Bundy was leading investigators down different roads and

Inferring that he did things but not giving concrete evidence. And so i it was almost he was just playing games, toying with people really. Fucking with them really, you know. Yeah, he's basically just fucking with them and it's uh it kind of sucks but That's uh that's what you call sociopathic behavior right there. You know, like they'll go and they'll try to like involve themselves in the case somehow and like go back to relive the fucking the scene and stuff, you know. That shit's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, you hear about that a lot, don't you? Uh yeah. Serial killers that supposedly do that and that's that's really creepy. I guess it's a way of of getting a second adrenaline rush or or whatever sort of thrill they get from it. Yeah like I know the BTK like I think he was uh I think he was a home installer.

I don't know exactly what it was, though. But that's how he would get his victims, because obviously he had their address and shit. And even after he did what he did to them, he would go back to the fucking... A crime scene and he would fucking, you know, get his little

It was a little jerk off of what the fuck he would do, but yeah, for me Uh yeah, I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that I know what it was, but I I wanna say that I heard somewhere it was he was some sort of alarm system and it was uh home security. I knew I knew it had something to do with having to know, you know, where he was going and all that stuff and it has something to do with installing. I just I don't want to say exactly what it was, but it has something to do with the long

sure. Yeah, yeah. And then you you become um uh you become intimate with a person's Home setting and uh yeah, that's a pretty crazy story. That yeah, BTK is still alive, isn't he? Uh yeah, I think he's what behind bars, right still and all that. Yeah, he's uh seventy-four years old. Oh. Seventy four years old. Wow. And yeah, his I I know that his daughter recently released a book. The one that's interesting to me, man, is the... Sorry, I made a good job.

You're okay. The one that the one that's interesting is the what is it, the Zodiac up north? Zodiac, yeah. That one's that one's I've always been fascinating to that one, man, because they never caught him and he would all same thing, he would fuck with them, you know, like he would just leave little messages.

Yeah, I um I think a lot of people think that uh some of those uh Those uh could possibly some of the some of the the victims that they uh they attribute to the zodiac killer, they believe that uh Ted might be actually responsible for some of those. And then uh another thing I've heard is Uh some people speculate that there was no such thing as a zodiac killer. There was just a series of different murders uh that some were similar and some were

kinda, you know, loosely similar, not, you know, distantly similar in in in the circumstances and the in the murders themselves. They they kinda look the same in a way, if that makes sense. But Yeah. Yeah. I remember I was I was reading the book and they were saying something about like uh They they could possibly thought that there was a copycat, but like'cause they were saying that their MOs were they were s kind of similar up until a certain extent. Maybe one thing was off though, you know?

But yeah, nah, I mean that's the thing too. I mean it could be a fucking copycat. Like there could just be multiple fucking killers and stuff, you know, who knows? Well and and what I've heard is is that possibly it it wasn't even

It wasn't even that, it was more some one person who was taking credit for all of these different random killings that had happened by different people. And What he was doing is he was he was sending uh the Chronicle, the the newspaper out there, I think it was the Chronicle, San Francisco Examiner and the Chronicle, and he was sending them these ciphers. And um it was basically just a guy taking credit for all these different cases that uh that were committed randomly by different people. Yeah.

Anybody but that's that's an interesting notion. Um it wasn't it wasn't anybody in any one person in particular. So I but I don't know who who the hell knows? We don't know. Yeah, I mean that's what that's back in the seven that's back in the seventies, right? Sixties, seventies? Sixties and seventies, yeah. It was um Mid to mid to late sixties I think mid to late sixties. I you you know, I'm not super familiar with the case, but um I read enough to know that it was yeah, mid sixties to

Uh early 70s and NorCal. It was uh a lot of it was up in Northern California, going all the way down to LA. And beyond. But yeah, interesting shit, man. Anyway, so go sorry man, go ahead. No, you go ahead. I'm sorry. Oh no no. I was just gonna say a joke, but no, go ahead, man. Sorry. Oh well do it. Do you know hold back? Let's hear it. No, I was just gonna say'cause I wasn't even around at that time. I mean, I wasn't born until ninety two, so

Well when all that shit was going down, I was just a dot in my dad's fine. That's it. Well, I wasn't around I wasn't around either, really. I mean, I think the both bulk of that stuff was in the sixties and I wasn't born until the seventies. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to see my dad about it. My dad's like, how the fuck would I know? I was born in 69. I was like, all right.

Yeah, yeah. See I was born in seventy, so I wasn't there either. But um a lot of people I do know uh I've actually got I've got some uh zodiac data I I was able to retrieve an archive from the Pete Hayward boxes. of uh stuff. And I I w yeah, he's just going through these enormous boxes full of his old police stuff. um tons of old old uh homicide cases files, you know, with actual like crime scene photos and Uh huh.

tape recordings, you know, like real to real uh confessions in some cases and interrogations and different things, but from different homicides in the Salt Lake Valley all through the fifties and sixties. And wait, so was uh I'm sorry man, was he was he a part of uh the Emmanuel David case then? Uh Pete Hayward? Yeah. Well, no, no, he was he was the um when that was happening, he was the sheriff of Salt Lake City.

And uh but but he was the he was uh d the captain of detectives for Salt Lake Sheriff's Department in the uh the in the sixties and fifties and and during the Ted Bundy years, actually. And um so uh my point was is I found all these zodiac uh boxes, all this zodiac information that the different police forces were spreading across the the different uh the w the western states. you know, they were just sending this zodiac information back and forth.

So the idea was is you could say, Oh, I've got a bunch of cases that kinda look like this guy's case and this guy's case and then they had different conferences to try to figure out if they were all looking at the same guy. Um yeah, I mean cause uh cause Bundy's the one that started that, right? Like the whole uh fucking jurisdiction, like state line to state line.

Because of the similarities between Utah and the Washington murders? Yeah, supposedly that's what he claimed. Um uh or even like county to county he would uh Yeah, he he's he supposedly he made the statement. to Salt Lake Sheriff's Department, I believe. It was he'd he'd kill a girl in one area, uh, leave her body in another, and dump her personal belongings in another, and he would kidnap her from a different area. Or whatever.

Yeah and um and the idea was is that he knew that police forces didn't speak to each other, they didn't communicate. Uh effectively. They they didn't talk back and forth and say, Hey, I got this guy that looks like your guy that you were talking about. You know what I mean? Um So uh yeah the seventies man, the sixties, those are the dark ages of police work by by all accounts. They all they all admit it.

Yeah, I mean, who knows how many cases they could have solved. They just had communication, you know. The seri killers were pretty smart to take advantage of that though. Like yeah, you see all the seri killers, they're intelligent people, man. Well yeah, they're not dumb, but I mean

Exactly, like you know, there's there's no communication, so like and then maybe someone tampers with the evidence over here and this fucking you know, this force doesn't know and everything just gets all fucked up, who knows? Yeah.

Hey and and who knows if all all of that stuff is true, if Bundy really believed it, if he actu I don't know where the actual documentation of him saying that is, but I've heard that from several different police officers and I can't remember where that statement comes from by Bundy, but supposedly it's something he really said and Uh the Mormon guys even told that that. He um joked around to some of the Mormon guys about it. Uh before

Oh, because he journed the church home. Yeah, I mean he fucking used the LDS to his fucking advantage. Yeah, that's insane, man. Like it's so smart fucking people, man. I mean, he's manipulative, you know, if he gets you, I mean, you use that shit to his advantage for sure. Who knows? Are you still with this man? Chris? Chris? Can you guys hear me? Yeah, we can hear you, man. All right. Um

So have you guys uh you guys gonna be working up um some investigations soon? Yeah man, so actually I was just talking to these guys before we actually did our introduction and we were just shooting the shit. You know, we we plugged in our YouTube channel and uh like we we've got about what four videos? Yeah. We've got about four videos. We've been to Salt Lake's uh the cemetery, we've been to Mercur a handful of times.

Oh um we've been to uh what the fuck else have we been? We've been in we've been in uh Pleasant Green Cemetery up in Magna. Like you know, like the whole ghost adventure shit that like not fuck ghost adventures once the ghost hunting shit, that's cool, you know. Like I don't mind it. But I guess like I uh I'll sign them, I wanna get more into like uh Like ghost towns, like just factual shit, you know, like see a town where it once was and know the history about it, plug it in.

Maybe talk about like some stories of people, you know, make like make a historical aspect out of it, you know. Yeah. Right. Um and then like the true crime as well, you know, like uh like for sure, uh, you know, go and The FLDS with it, and you know, the whole thinking he's like larger than life and shit, and it's pretty insane, man. I th I think that's fascinating, yeah. You get some of these old uh ghost towns, man. I love it. I think that's a great idea.

Yeah, man, like so there's one right here, right by the apartment. It's called Lark and it always pops up but I was actually able to get a hold of someone and they were like, Oh yeah, no, uh we we shut that shit down years ago. Like all we do now is where the town once stood, it's a bunch of copper from the mine. We we set it right there and I was like, Oh fuck, all right, never mind. Like Yeah. So another and I know there was this one

called Botchus, uh'cause you know how right here it's Botchus Highway off of uh over by the Orker Mountains. Yes. There was a yeah, there was a ghost there was a town there, they came a ghost town called Botchus and uh Fucking Northrop, you know, they they took over that land. So I'm like, yeah, I'm not fucking trespassing on Northrop, I'll get fucking shot by a drone.

Not doing that. So I mean there's plenty of fucking places we can go to. We just gotta wait till the snow kind of settles down and for sure start knocking them out. Uh yeah, isn't there um I think out there by Towilla too there's a There's an old Polynesian LDS settlement in the it's called uh it's called Mulsepa and actually we were we're talking about it and I'm actually gonna get more info on it. We're gonna go scope it out for sure.

I think the the army depot out there too that old depot is I don't know how abandoned that is, but I think it's I don't know. I keep hearing the stories. Yeah, I think it's still active. I think I see trucks along the road. Yeah, I think it's still in use, man. I think they still use it for like storage and stuff. Heading out to Mercury, you see some shucks along the road and shit like that. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Um you know where you know what else would be interesting for you guys too, if it were me. I mean, I'd like to get up there anyway. I might still do it. But uh go up to go to some of those towns in in uh west um North I guess it's north no, it's northeastern Nevada, like places like Ely and uh Eureka. Those places are fucking cool. I was actually looking at uh like West Wendover, like the airbase. It's not really in use anymore.

Uh there's there's a few spots, man, like for sure. But I I've heard about yeah, E uh Eli and uh some of those other places, Eureka. Yeah. Nevada's got some and it's really it's not that far away from you. It's about as close as it is to me. Probably closer to you. Um but that place that those towns are really neat, man. I used to drive

out on Highway 50 out there back in the nineties, I'd I'd go from Colorado, right? Me and me and the guys Would get a bunch of booze and a bunch of weed and We'd we'd you know we'd get all jacked up on coffee and drink and smoke a shitload of weed and we'd we'd blow through the the West Desert right through Salt Lake City. And uh go on highway fifty, man, out in the middle of the night.

And uh and and you see these old gold mining town, these little copper mining towns, well silver towns, gold mining towns are um pretty pr'cause they're they're all but abandoned. You you go through and there's like one gas station and there's one bar.

And that's it. And otherwise this this whole town, this whole community is just sitting there empty. Yeah, it'd be fucking three fucking Mexicans invading fucking uh ghost town in Nevada, about fucking Roadhouse, Patrick Swayze in the fucking bar and shit. Yeah, man, you could do some re reverse Nazi stuff, man. You could invade Nevada. You know, and stuff. I like it. Yeah. Well uh What was I gonna say, man? So uh

The Mexicans are invading. So what um so besides your uh you know like those Some of those videos you're trying to put out, you know, I'm not gonna say, but I know you got some uh you know, upcoming projects. Uh some big projects, some do how's it how is it so far in Vegas, man? Like how you liking it? Um, you know what, I really like it down here. Uh but to be honest with you, I really haven't done a whole lot of like crazy fun stuff the whole time I've been here. I've been here for say.

My first day of work was July th thirty first and but I've been coming down here, pretty much moving stuff down here since June. Um, so I don't know, I th I think it's roughly six months or so. Yeah. And uh I really like it, man. It's um i i the weather you know, the weather isn't super warm like you think it would be, but it's I think it's about twenty degrees warmer than it is up there. And um it's um

I've been having a blast. I've been out to California twice since I've been here and I I'm gonna go out tomorrow and go to Redlands and Um I've I've come across some great really interesting cases to to cover I I discovered this case by oh, what is her name? She's got this crazy name. It's like Dexley. This what it's a okay, so there's this woman who um

in the late nineties. Her name will come to me as I'm thinking about it. Um She you know it's a classic story you kill you kill somebody in your family so you can just keep Cashing their social security checks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, as you always see it in the movies. Well, this lady actually did that. She she had uh

She she killed her mother. She was in her late forties herself and then her mother was in her late sixties and she kept her mother in a storage unit in some sort of plastic you know, those big blue containers, big blue barrels, you know, those plastic barrels and um kept her in storage unit somewhere in Las Vegas and wanna get to the bottom of some of this, but she um Anyways, eventually she got outed and um she they stuck her in the Nevada State Penitentiary down here and she actually escaped.

Right? And they they actually picked her up. you know, going to California. You know, just buzzing in California and they picked her up when they realized she was gone and but since in the subsequent years they've discovered well, they believe after doing a lot of investigation on this this crazy Chick that they believe that she is actually responsible for several other murders. And basically essentially she's a serial killer.

Um anyway, so that's a that's an interesting case I'm looking at. And now and now she's out on parole and she lives in uh San Jose, California. Uh I thought you were gonna say Henderson or something, but uh she may say yeah yeah, she lives in um no, she lives in um West Jordan. Right by you. I'm a broke fucker, so don't matter.

Yeah. No, anyway, that's a weird one and and there's also the Sonny Liston case down here. He was a boxer back in the sixties. Yeah, he's uh say he he did did he fight uh tyson uh not tyson sorry uh uh ali he did he fought he well went back and still cash clay We've fought um we fought Muhammad Ali, yeah when he was cash in his play in nineteen sixty four, I believe. Anyway, he really fascinating case. I found his his home down here. So the guy

The guy was from he was originally from St. Louis. No, he was from Arkansas. Uh his mother bounced on him when he was like ten years old or something and left him with his his alcoholic father in Arkans Arkansas who's a basically a sharecropper and um abusive guy, you know, and he He um he ended up moving to Chicago first, I believe. And he got involved in to he got involved in some nefarious stuff. He was basically uh running stuff for the Chicago outfit up there. And then he ended up moving to

um St. Louis and then via St. Louis he ended up in Philadelphia and this whole time he was he was slowly getting into boxing. He spent some time in prison. He actually I think he killed a cop. Uh this isn't now this is this is a black guy back. I I could have this wrong, so forgive me folks, if anybody listening. But he did something. He he if he didn't kill him, he he hurt a cop really badly. And yeah, remember this is a black guy back in the nineteen fifties and the early fifties.

hurting a white cop, you know, they that was probably kind of a weird thing, you know. Um but he ended up uh eventually he ended up getting into professional boxing. Uh Sonny Liston. And turns out, you know, he he was a he was a real bad mofo, man. He he was slamming dudes. Um heavyweight heavyweight boxing. He was just a big guy and he didn't even really work out that much. Um, but he was you know, he was a pretty bad alcoholic. Um, he dabbled in drugs his whole life.

And even I've even heard that for the Cassius Clay Muhammad Ali fight, he he went out partying the night before the fight, got really super drunk. And he he didn't even care. Like he was like I'll I'll I'll beat I'll beat Muhammad Ali up no matter what. And so he was hung to the gills when he was fighting Ali. Can you imagine? Can you imagine you got this terrible hangover and you gotta get in the ring with Muhammad Ali. I mean, oh my god.

That's just even if it's not true, that's a great story. I love it. Yeah. You uh you almost made me fucking die of laughter right now, man. I mean can you tell me like the the worst hangover over man? Yeah, I gotta You said uh Fuck man, you you almost made me laugh when you were telling that story'cause you know how like you were talking about like uh how you know he probably something about murdering a cop, right? Like you don't want to know if it's like factual and stuff.

All right. Right. So when you were you were like you were like, all right guys, don't quote me on this if anybody's even listening to this fucking thing. I was like, god damn, Chris is a savage. You don't give a fuck. Oh, I didn't mean I didn't mean it like that. No, no, we know, we know, but it was just funny how he said like, uh, just case anybody's listening to this fucking bullshit. I didn't that's not what I meant. Like اشتركوا في القناة

I know man, we'll be too man. That's too much fucking less. I doubt it, but in case you got any other space out here. Yeah, don't quote me on this. Anybody's actually listening to this shit. I know they're not, but you know Go ahead to keep eating your tacos. Just yeah, you listen to this shit. That just But um anyway, so he he was he was totally mobbed out and he ended up out here in Vegas and he died. They his wife his wife went back home to Saint Louis to visit the family during Christmas and

Sonny stayed here and while while she was gone, he he died. She came home and He was dead in their bedroom and it had been for about a week. And she came home and the whole house, you know, smelled smelled like a dead person. Yeah. And uh pretty crazy, but they found trace amounts of drugs in his system and so a lot of you know, a lot of urban legend about being a mob a mob hit so they overdosed him and or just different things, you know. Interesting stuff, but

So yeah, yeah, I mean I've got my hands full. I'm also working on the Frank Culata video. Um he was a Chicago outfit. Uh he was not a made man, he was um associate that worked for Tony Spilatro. Uh the guys um the guys that were portraying Casino, basically, if you ever saw that. Та-чао!

That's fucking cool, man. I mean uh I got a lot you got time for a few questions, man? Of course. All right, man. So I guess we're like talking about like We're trying to talk about Utah, you know, like we're not being disrespectful and shit, but so like what's what what's uh what's one thing that you actually uh well if you did what's one thing that you actually liked about

No, that's that's funny, man, because these other people asked me a similar question on a podcast I did recently and I thought they were just fucking with me. You know, they're like, Yeah, what would you what would you take with since you're in Vegas now, what would you Take with you from from Utah and and I was I think I said so I didn't mean it to sound so disrespectful to Utah but I was kinda like, nothing, you know?

I don't need it to sound like that, just like my little crack about your podcast. No, no, you're good. You're good. You're good. You're uh you're a savage disguise, man. It's all right. What what do I like about Utah? There uh is that the question? Yeah. I I there's a lot of things I like about Utah. Um I I like um

I I like the the the proximity to the mountains. You know, it's really close to to Colorado and I love that you could just bounce right over the hill and you're Jesus, you're in the you're on the front range of Colorado, you're Right there. And you can you can jump straight up Ice Seventy Corridor and boom, you were in the Rocky Mountains and in a you know a quick four and a half hour drive, you're right there. Um Yeah, that that's like I mean it's pretty cool, man. Like um

Yeah, like you're right. Like you got Colorado and then well, you're like an hour and a half away from Idaho, you're about an hour from fucking Wyoming. Yeah. Then you're about an hour and a half from Nevada. So yeah, I mean, I'll agree with you on that for sure. I um yeah, I like that. I like the the fact that It's a it's a Utah is a it's a very modern city, you know, Salt Lake is. It's a very modern city.

uh a lot of industry right there. I mean, there's something for everybody in that town. There really is. And um I think from miles and round in all directions. Except for Las Vegas and maybe um I think probably if you uh the the next nearest really big towns like Denver, that's a good ten hour drive. Um yeah. Los Angeles has gotta be that's gotta be a good ten, eleven, twelve hours drive. Um about eleven hours for sure.

Uh it you know, so it's it they're kind of taking care of taking care of that section of all those states like Wyoming and Idaho, um even Nevada to a large extent, except Vegas, you know, it's Uh Reno, Reno is uh is not um uh what I would call a metropolis. by any means and it's you know that's still an eight hour drive. Um yeah, yeah, those are like fucking five hundred uh five hundred miles for sure. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, about five yeah, you're probably right. And

Uh I think they have some you know, they have some really they have some great colleges there. Uh i I don't know, there's a there's a lot to be said. The the ski resorts are You know, I I never went skiing here, but I I you know, I I know skiing. I lived in Colorado for a long time and I skied my ass off there and I know that Utah is you know, some of the top ten skiing in the entire country. I mean, I'm the best now in the world, so who knows?

And I know that you got Yeah. No, it's a it's a it's a good place, man. There's a lot of good there's a lot of good people in Utah too. I've got some great friends, you know, guys like yourselves. Um I've I've gotten to know a lot of wonderful people there and um Yeah, yeah, I guess that's about as much as I could say say for you talking about the question's killing me. Maybe we better Yeah, give me another question. Let's, uh... So like what

I guess let me tr let me try to find the right words. What uh fascinates you about like uh true crime? Is it just the history of it or is it like the the planning of detail of having to solve it, the case of some sort? Yeah, I think um I think the mechanics of uh the the the criminal behavior and the police work from certain time period in the US and a lot of modern stuff too, so maybe that's not true. But it's it's definitely the the combination of of how the behavior occurs

how how it manifests the decisions these guys make and how law enforcement reacts to it. Um that's all really fascinating. I I I like the thrill of like uh just chasing down the facts, digging through the archives, finding information, tracking people down and talking to them about uh the details because you know I've seen I've seen documentaries on a million different stories and cases over the years and I've never really

felt like I was really getting the best information. Um Yeah yeah. Ever. So, like for example, go back to Ted Bundy, you know. Um If you saw if you saw a documentary on Ted Bundy, you could just about any of them that are out there. they they gloss over certain parts of the case. Um and and and you know why it's because they they don't have any information about those things. So they just steer right past it. And you can't blame'em because they don't know.

You know, they don't know. So it's either that or just make up some stories about what they think happened. Um so that's that's where that's how I think that's how I got interested in it is Yeah, I don't know. And and I don't think everybody works that way. They a lot of people watch something like something like the Ted Bundy case and

They're happy happy to know what they know or what they can find out, but um I don't know. That's like I I guess I need to know more. And I don't know why. Yeah that's

Yeah, like I'm not gonna like don't worry, I know you I know you I know you're not gonna hit on the movie, you know, because I know you know the the director and all that, but like that movie It could have been a lot better, man. Like Yeah, from what it was and I guess what I was expecting out of it and shit, like, yeah, it was just like, no, no, no. Yeah, it was just like a huge fucking love story. Like, come on, man. Like, fuck, you know?

I thought I was fucking watching Pearl Harbor again. I was like, man, fuck this. Let's fucking go, bro. Like let's fucking make some sushi. Let's get the fuck out of here. Let's fucking start blasting shit. Like, let's go. Like, let's go. But no. Like. Yeah, man, so I guess I guess for what it is, it was like'cause they they fucking anticipated it so much, you know. Yeah, I guess from like north.

I guess from seeing like the shit that you you know dive into and yeah how deep you go and I'm like, All right, cool man. I'm expecting something, let's do this and then it's like Play by play kind of No Ted, you can't do this. Don't leave, please. Fuck this. Like shut this me off, man. That's my rant. I'm done. No, yeah, no, I know what you mean. I I No, and I don't know the director. I d I mean I just I met him at the premiere but I don't know him, but um okay.

Uh no I y I spoke with him but I don't know him. Um but yeah, no and I I don't have any problem bagging on that movie. I didn't like it very much. Um it was uh It was funny, man, when that movie came out. Uh how did I end up seeing it? Oh, I saw the we So we're friends with uh the Hayward family, who are amazing people and they um A lot of them live right there in the Salt Lake Valley now, still, you know, but at the time when they were making that movie.

Uh Bob Hayward was still alive and he was the guy that caught Bundy. Um and his wife was was still alive. We actually took her to see the premiere. And um we kinda, you know, we she really wanted to go and and we said, well, we'll we'll try. And she was just thrilled. She really, really, really, really wanted to go. So we

put our best foot forward and what we did was is we ended up throwing her name around a little bit so that we could get tickets through Sundance. And she was totally fine with that. Um because we you know got her a ticket. But um so we saw the we saw the premiere of the movie and I remember kicking back and You know, the whole thing was is that she was excited to see James Hetfield from Metallica play her husband.

Oh, he's the one that plays Bob Hayward? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, shit. I was like, yeah, I'm like, you're fucking familiar. I'm like, yeah, he looks like Jim's head. I don't know if that's him. Oh, shit, that's crazy. Yeah, it was um that was uh James Hetfield and we we knew it was gonna be Hetfield um before it came out. So we we told uh we told Bob about it actually. It was kind of funny. I remember he said something like

He said something like, Who who's this guy? You know.'Cause he's a ninety he was a ninety year old guy, you know, he didn't know who the hell Metallica was, you know. Um And according to his according to his grandson he hated that kind of music, which is funny. But um So we we got there and we saw And um I you know, the Bob Haitwood character was up there for two seconds and it was over.

And it was like really that's what we were so excited about. And then the the whole movie just proceeded to suck. It was terrible. I was actually kind of embarrassed to be there. I was like, oh my God. Thank God we didn't pay for Uh no, it was so bad. It was so bad, bro. It was it was it it's hard to describe and I know what he was doing. I know what the director's intentions were.

He was trying to make the movie from Liz Clover's perspective, you know, because she didn't know what was going on, the way he was behaving. Yeah, but that's not what he was advertised.

But here's the thing though, like that director, man, he's a fucking great doc like documentaries, his documentary was good, dude. Like that yo, the files, that was awesome. That's why I guess I was kinda pissed off because from what I say, I know what you can because what I saw from the the documentary, like the you know, the files and shit, the miniseries and then when I saw that I was like, Whoa, what what the fuck? Like it's like fucking

Yeah, it's like a fucking area on the ground in I don't know who the fuck else, but it was like what the fuck's going on here? Like what the fuck, you know? Like it was just me. Hey, this Paula says hi guys. Hi. Chris, stop being an asshole. Am I being an asshole? Oh no no no I wasn't really sorry guys. I just can't I'm just kidding. I was just kidding. No, um

Yeah, no, no, he's not you're right, Joaquin, he's a he's an awesome documentary, and he did that Whitey Bulger thing, and I thought that was great. Um fucking really cool documentary, and I know he's done a couple others. And um He but but doing like a regular movie, apparently he did he directed the Blair Witch 2. Yeah, we're talking about Burlinger. Yeah. Did you ever see that the one that just came out or the old one?

Well you know the you know the Blair Witch of course, right? Yeah. So they did a they did a second uh sequel to that movie. Um I can't remember what year, probably two thousand four or five or something like that. And anyway, thank you. Oh in 99. In 99, right? The first one's like in the night, late nineties. Yeah. Yeah. Some something like that. So within the past few years or something like that.

Uh okay. Well sorry man, go ahead. Continue. You're all right. So he did a he did the sequel to the Blair Witch project, which I'm not sure what year it came out, but it was uh Book of Shadows something. And um He caught a lot of shit about that'cause it was a pretty terrible movie too. Chris says that was one of his favorites. So so I told I told Berlinger, I said, Oh, I actually

I actually liked your I was lying my ass off, but I said, actually like that movie. Yeah, and he says, Oh, you're you're he goes, Oh you and you and five other people like that movie. I thought that was funny. Yeah,'cause I remember I remember watching the first one when it came out. I was like fucking like probably like six or seven. And then I remember seeing

The last one that just came out, I want to say maybe three years ago. The they they they did a reboot of the first one. Oh I don't remember it. Okay. Yeah. And that's why I I'm like thinking to myself, did I see that one? Probably not. If it's like two thousand four. So there's a T V movie that came out in twenty fifteen.

What'd you say couldn't US Jacob he he was saying that the he was saying that the the reboot one came out like twenty fifteen. I haven't but no i'm serious so the title of the project two is the bear witch project two uh the book of seduction it's probably a porno yeah probably uh was that one He said it's called the the Book of Seduction. The book of Seduction. Oh, here we go. Uh no, that's a point up too.

He's only got half a hour. Yeah, just just ignore this fucking half a heart spick. Just uh Anyway, so he yeah, his mo his movie movies are I mean, I don't wanna dog on the guy'cause

Shit man, that's I don't know. I mean it's a lot of work making a a full blown production, you know, it's a lot of money and a lot of work. Yeah, I I understand that. I guess, you know, like how I was just saying though, like, you know, the the bur uh you know the other documentaries that he's made, you know, it's like they're fucking good. They're really good. And I'm like, okay, and I guess you know you just kinda

It was just let down because of what the potential of what it could have been. Yeah. And like it wasn't the worst movie I've ever seen, but I guess I just had more hopes for it, you know. So But I mean it is what it is. Yeah, no, I think that's a really good point. Yeah. And uh Paula just said he should probably stick to documentaries and

Um, that's probably a good point too, you know. It's like I saw Jim Carrey on a show the other night with Paula. We were watching something what was that called? Lies or Why anyway. It's like he's done like twenty years of just these serious roles and it's like it's like yeah, yes man is what it's called, yes man. And uh yes uh have you seen that? It was pretty funny actually. Uh laughed. Yeah, it was pretty funny, yeah. So watch it all the time as a kid, huh?

But um it's like man, the guy the guy's been trying to do serious roles forever because he's trying to be taken seriously as an actor. But It's like, dude, don't don't do that. Stick to the comedy. That's what you're good at. Yeah, I mean like I mean I know I know him as like fucking in Living Color, Ace Ventura, The Mask. That like that's how I know Jim Carrey. So it's like

No, it's more drama. That's more drama, the Truman show. But yeah, but it was still fucking pretty much. No, but like what Chris is saying, like it's comedy, like that's what he's known for. But he's good at it. Yeah, he's good at it. I wanna see I wanna see fucking this fire marshal bill. You know, I don't wanna Let me tell you people something. You know, I don't wanna see I don't wanna see him trying to play fucking Winston Churchill or some bullshit.

Yeah, like I know he's gonna be in that new fucking Sonic movie, so I'm like it's more silly. Well yeah I know, but something like, all right, like it's fucking what's my childhood. I'm like, all right, like who knows, you know? What the fuck? He's fucking with your childhood Joaquin. Hey, I I hear you, man. It's like if Charles Bronson ever came back from the dead, crawled out of his grave and started doing doing s started doing fucking Pearl Harbor Man. I'd be totally

I saw this fucking tremendous picture of fucking Charles Bronson as fucking Charlie Brown with a gun. It was fucking amazing, dude. Charlie Brown. He has that big that big ass fucking magnum in his hand. I was like, fuck yeah. And like someone on my Facebook some on my Facebook's like, take this shit down. I was like, shut the fuck off. Like enjoy it. You know, fucking bow down to Charles Bronson and I fucking they fucking block me. I was like, fuck'em. But oh we guess, man. Tell'em.

Tell my sir to have cult sponsor shut the fuck up. I said, Hey, fucking you don't like Charles Bron you know, you don't like Charlie Bronson and maybe he'll fucking come and fucking death with you. Who knows? Like Who knows, man if I can do a death with But we were we were uh Paula and I were watching T V the other morning when I before I was going to work and Lone Wolf McQuaid came on, man. You ever seen that? Oh yeah. I've seen a little bit of it, yeah. It's been a while.

Classic man. They it's um it's you know it's that Charles Bronson kind of reboot, only only a low budget Charles Bronson. But Yeah man, I love those old movies, man. Nobody I don't know. I don't know what I'm babbling about. He's a fucking dog, dude. Fuck yeah man. Straight pink. He's like a he's like a fucking Hispanic in a white man's body. He doesn't deal with fuck, dude. With a blonde with a blonde supermodel.

Yeah, man, that's fucking crazy, you know. Yeah, I I love it, man. But yeah, but the point is is Burlinger, man, we love you, buddy, but stick to the documentaries. Yeah, exactly. I mean I'm not gonna hate but exactly what Chris just said. Go ahead and Stick to what you know, my friend. It's you ventured into it, it didn't work out. Go back to where you fucking excel at, you know? Ah, let's hate a little bit. Let's hate on it. Just a little bit. Just a little bit.

Yeah, man. So so that's that was a weird thing, man. We took um Bob Hayward's wife and and she's su she was such a sweet lady, man. We took and and then and then the and then she died maybe a month later. Oh, yeah. It was so sad. Yeah, she she hung on. She really wanted to see that movie and we got to take her. It was wonderful. And then and then she uh she passed away. It was uh it was like she was just waiting to see her See Bob uh kind of depicted within lights.

And um she passed away. It was really it was that was kind of sad, but uh I was glad she got to see it. And um but it was too bad the movie was such a piece of shit.

Yeah man, so I don't know how much time I don't know how much time you have, man, but we don't want we don't want to keep you too long, you know. Oh, you're all right, brother. I mean, whatever. Um, I'm just kind of uh tooling around the house, man. I was out and about most of the day doing a Found a lot of interesting mob information today from some different bookstores and so I'm just working on my videos today and spent out of the cold.

So you're good. But yeah, what's your what's um uh so so you guys are podcasting it now? I think it's a wonderful idea for you guys, you know. I think it's a good idea for me too, anybody.

Yeah, man, I mean we just you know, we figured like uh we could do it for the time being while we're not, you know, actually like out at these other places and doing these uh you know like these videos yeah that we could do we could do this yeah we could do this for the time being and like I mean I wouldn't mind having Paula on, you know, if she's if she's willing to o of course, you know, I don't wanna force her, you know, I don't wanna intrude but

Like talk to the woman behind the man or Captain Borax or like fucking just talk to like just different people that we've met here and talk to some old buddies back home and Sure. You know, just just shoot the sh yeah, just shoot the shit, man. Like nothing nothing's off the table unless like unless someone tells us like, Hey you know, I don't wanna talk about this, I don't wanna dive into this, you know, topic, that's fine, you know, but

Sure. It's all it's all like yeah, it's basically like, Hey man, whatever's go ahead, you know, s fucking speak. That's pretty much how it's gonna roll. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Oh man. And why not? You know, I think it's a great idea, you know. You know, I I it's funny, you know, I thought I've thought about doing a similar thing. Because you know, I'll I'll call people up and cold call people and interview them and uh over the phone. And I always thought

What about like yeah,'cause I'm a big fan of like cheesy B movies, you know, I love it. You know, why not why not cold call actors and actresses that are that that started out as B movie people and then they're they're sort of like slipping into

to where are they now files, you know? Actually there's this podcast there's this podcast that our uh our I I don't know the name of it. I gotta figure it find out, but our cousin Santos he listens to It's uh with one of those actors from Brooklyn nine nine, he um He m he and one of his buddies.

They watch like these really bad fucking like B movies, like fucking low end shit fucking movies that you'll never watch again. And uh they watch it one weekend and then the following podcast They fucking like have a discussion about the movie with their fucking audience and it's pretty cool, you know, like Yeah.

It's yeah, it's pretty fucking funny, but uh like that's how I found out about that one movie. What is it? Uh The Room? The Room? Oh yeah, yeah. The one with uh Tommy Wise, the one that got remade with James with James Franco and Seth Lovely. Okay. Yeah. That that's the thing, dude. It's it's been voted the worst fucking movie ever.

Like that's how bad that's how that's how bad the movie was. Like it was literally a piece of fucking shit and then James Frankel was so fascinated by it how shitty it was he wanted to do a fucking remake and he's supposed to portray the guy and there's just like Five minute long scene. Yeah, man. Like the fucking acting is like so terrible. And it's like Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty it's pretty fucking funny. But that's awesome. I'll look for the room, right?

But um Well, for example, like, you know, yeah, absolutely. I I think that's a great idea, you know, like like when I was a kid I used to watch uh chips, right? Oh, with uh fucking what is it, Eric Estrada and shit? Eric Estrada. That was that was my shit when I was a kid, the A Team and Chips, you know. And um Uh, a long time ago I I called up years ago I should say, I I called up a guy named Robert Pine.

And he was um he was the guy that played Sergeant. He was the he was old then. He was old in the seventies. He was like in his late forties then. And he's still alive. He's actually he's still I sh I saw him on a movie recently. It was like a bit roll, you know. But um I was like, holy shit, that's that's Sergeant Catrare from Gips.

And um yeah, I spoke to him briefly for a minute several years ago and it was he was friendly and it was like he he didn't even seem pissed that I called him at home without any warning or anything. He was fine with Um another another time I called Chuck Chuck Berry, you know who that is, right? The Yeah. Well I I would have called Chuck Berry I would have called Chuck Berry, but he uh he had passed away by the time I had the thought to do it.

Uh okay. But uh yo, what the fuck? Yo, that's like fucking that's a king of that's a real king of rock and roll right there, man. Oh yeah, he's he's he's one of my faves, man. Love him and but I spoke to I spoke to his bass player. His long he had this in you know, in the early nineteen seventies he had a guy who had been playing bass in his regular band since the early nineteen seventies. This guy named

Oh oh my goodness, it's on my YouTube channel. I have to go look it up. Um, I I recorded the interview and put it together. Anyway, um Uh his name will come to me. It's on my YouTube channel. But anyway, um he I spoke to him. He he played bass for Chuck Berry close to fifty years. And I know, right? It was it was more like close to middle forty five years or something like that, but

He was Chuck Berry. Yeah, I mean the guy the second the guy was on he was the guy was on soul train with Chuck Berry for Christ's sake. You know, he was he played on you know, he he he was on every he was on American bandstand with Chuck Berry for Christ's sakes. You know, the guy that was a fun That was the worst, man. Like fucking as a kid waking up like at one thirty, two o'clock in the morning.

And you just got all these motherfuckers dancing on fucking Soul Train and you're like, What the fuck is going on? And like say if you just woke up from like a fucking nightmare and you're like, What the fuck? Like

I don't know, it never fucking occurred to me that people would just dance on a TV show. So I th so I thought I was still in my fucking dream and I'm like, what the hell's going on here? And they're like, well no, that's just soul training like my grandma would just walk by like, oh that's soul training, motherfucker, go back to bed.

Oh man, I I remember when I was a kid, I remember getting violently ill. I my parents took me to see a concert and it was um it was transfers. Oh my god, have you ever heard of those guys? Never. You should Google them. Write it down. You or Google these guys, man, YouTube, some of their shit. They do all that, you know, the vocalization stuff with a band behind'em. It's all like the zoo b dooppa, hippa doo boo, a loop ba doo ba doo you know that kind of stuff.

And really Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really corny, corny, corny um uh Cornea, yep, badoo-hoo, loot-doo-badoo like these harmonies, you know the the the funky little beauty. Like uh like what? Like Fraser? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like Frazier. Like in the beginning of the song of Fraser. That kind of music. And um I remember that music made me feel so I I felt so violently nauseous.

I puked all the way home like and and all I could hear was these people going, Zoob It was just vomiting um my dad would pull over and I'd stick my head out and vomit, you know, it was it was Oh it was But anyway, I interviewed um I interviewed that guy. Um, and so that's where I got the kind of the idea. I was like, they I called him and left a message and he called me back ten minutes later and he's like, he was so cool.

You know? And he just said uh I I think uh he just chit chatted with me for an act. Great.

That's cool, man. I think I'm about to fucking download that app. What is it? Well, I don't know if I should give it away, but you know what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm not going to give it away, but that app where you can... Call different celebrities and uh be like, yo, Snoop Dogg give me announce. Yeah. Hey Snoop Dogg, when's your shitty little football? Team played, you know those little fucked up kids. Uh seemed like Coach Snoop. Coach Snoop.

He coaches a fucking football team, man. Like, yeah, like he's such an inspirational guy. So this motherfucker was on fucking death roll. This man was on trial for killing. What the fuck? What do you guys the way you know Snoop Dogg and I know Snow are two different things. Oh my god, did you see Black guy cooking with Betty Wyoming, what the fuck? No, Martha Stewart fucking hard. It's cold as fuck in here, man.

Don't disrespect Betty White. Hollering one eight seven with my dick in your mouth, be a you know, yeah. I mean I gotta take away from the smoking uh you know. Doggystyle album. I mean, that's a fucking badass album, but hey man, don't make him out to be some fucking saint no one is, but hey man, the way I know him and the way you know him are two different fucking things. Totally. Snoop Lion Snoop Lion in Jamaica.

smoking enormous blunts with Bunny Whaler and then the next day he's playing He's playing uh his little His little farm league uh middle school football team with inner city kids. Come on, man, give me a break. Yeah, fucking saw fucking Eddie Murphy fucking singing fucking reggae. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. I said, where's uh

Yeah, what what's the stand-up Eddie Murphy? What the fuck what's going on here, man? Like too much cuck forty years later we get this shit, man. I don't know man, but do you ever hear Eddie? Did did you ever hear did you ever hear Eddie Murphy when he he did that skit, kill the white people? It was uh it was um a reggae thing. You could YouTube it. He had the little reggae ban, you know, kill the white people. Go buy my record for notch. It's worth checking out.

Fucking Tom the fucking stun, the guy from temple in Salt Lake. Well, have you seen Dave Chappelle now? Motherfucker's old, but he's like great. Yeah. He's in a Everything's better in slow motion. He not too in his he's only in his mid forties. He's probably like forty five. Yeah, no, I think he's only like forty. Yeah, I think he's like forty six, forty seven. So he's not that old. He not that old. He still looks young as hell. Um but uh like yeah he's great man I love one of the greats

Yeah, I I remember I used to watch his f I used to watch his fucking T V show when I was a kid. I remember he'd be like Talking about fucking Charlie Murphy and shit, Rick James. He's fucking just get punched right across his fucking forehead with the unity ring. Ohity. Yeah, absolutely. Or the we got Wayne Wayne Brady is the pimp.

Like I know my wife, the black fucking uh fucking Wade Brady when he's like, I'm Wayne Brady, bitch, fucking shoots him in the D cab he takes off. Hey, hey Mr. Benjamin's kinda lonely, baby. Wayne Brady's not. Oh, that shit's classic, man.

Oh, Wayne Bredy, you gotta choke a bitch? Or the what was it, the crack balls, you know, crack balls give you wings, you know. Fucking the oh yeah fucking uh uh red ball yeah fucking Taiwan bigums he's all he fucking lifts up a fucking uh bus and shit to get a fucking penny he's all like He's all cooking.

He's he's in that fucking he's in the the Alamite school classroom and he's all telling the kids, he's all like it's cocaine in the cane and he fucking just kicks the door, he takes all the money, he's like, eh, fucking sticks off. Oh yeah. Chappelle show was uh Chappelle showed was uh cutting edge, man. That was that's a good good stuff.

That shit yeah, that shit was great, man. Like there's no way that shit could fly in like this fucking PC culture now. There's no way there's no way not even the office can survive that shit. And that was only fifteen years ago, guys.

You know? It wasn't that long ago. That's what I'm saying. Like I feel like every yeah, everything because it was like two thousand I want to say two thousand three, two thousand four, like when it's when it was real big. Yeah. I was like sixth or seventh grade. And that shit was just I I feel like everything after twenty like twenty ten just got like everyone just become a fucking pussy by every little thing.

Serious words like fuck like you can't make one fucking joke, like not one. Yeah. This fucking group you're a fucking asshole. This group thinks you're racist. Like it's fucking comedy, dude. Yeah, it makes people laugh. It's fucking fun. But the thing is though, like you gotta make you gotta make a horrible situation funny. That's what that's what a lot of comedy is, you know.

Fuck with you go into uncharted fucking waters to make something funny. Yeah. That's the whole thing. You know what though? It's all cyclical, guys. Man, think about it like In in the 1970s, if you you turn on a bunch of 70s shows, they're saying like crazy racial stuff. They're talking about they're talking about drugs openly. There's there's women running around in crazy scanty clothes and

All kinds of sexual reference stuff. But then fast forward to nineteen ninety, and it's really uptight. You know what I mean? And then I d I don't know if you saw I uh I posted something on Facebook. It was a video of fucking uh Was it Ernie? I think it's Ernie. And he's like right there just kind of hanging out and this fucking guy just kind of looks around and he's like hey man Like you seem like a smart fellow.

I could sell you some stuff and he's like, Oh yeah, like a businessman? He's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a businessman. And then he fucking like and that's what he tells him, like, I can make you sell some eight. You know, like a fucking eight ball, and then he's like eight, and he's all hey, be quiet, be quiet. So they they can't know, they can't know. And that was like i want to say that was maybe your

Uh yeah. I remember when that episode came out, I mean, I wasn't that I wasn't like too young. I was probably like six. That's like ninety seven, ninety eight. And I'm just like somebody like no no, it's a real yeah, no, dude, shit was different. Even like when we were growing up, like yeah, like late nineties and

Even early two thousands, shit was different. Like yeah. But he's right though. Like if you look at the old uh Looney Tunes, they're fucking racist as hell. Fuck yeah, man. Fucking bugs, buddy. I remember this one time when I was a kid and I had this one kid in my class, right?

I don't want to say his name. Remember he was like, Man, I hate Bugs Bunny. And I was like, Oh man, Bugs Bunny's fucking cool. I said, Yeah, he does. I go back and I start looking at the fucking shit and I'm like listening to him talk. I'm like, oh yeah, maybe he does. And then they're fucking throwing Mexican jokes in their tool. Like for example, Speedy Gonzalez, bro, that shit don't get no more fucking racist. Hey man, this fucking shoot like the flash to the border. Fuck it, let's go. Great.

Funny as shit though. And then you got like and then they they portrayed his cousin Slow Polk Rodriguez for the lazy Mexicans. Yeah, I did I remember I'm like, all right, fuck you like You gotta laugh at it though, it's funny. They see that shit and I forgot about that sample. Instead of just keeping instead of TV like

That's the thing like people don't do that anymore. They always gotta start with it. I could be offended. Like we could be offended at it. Like we really could, like, oh no, they're making fun of Hispanic. No, bro, it's a fucking joke, relax. Yeah, laugh, you know? Right.

It's like that one in uh you remember that song These Nuts from Dr. Durant? Of course. Yeah. And he's all like he's all if I had uh Nuts on the wall with those two fucking wall nuts. If I had nuts on your thing, I'm not wish I'd be a dick in your mouth. And it just fucking starts and I'm like, fuck yeah, something's fucking awesome. Hey, speaking of which, y you know um you know whose voice that is

on uh saying that, you know, if I had nuts on the wall with those bee walnuts, you know, that thing. Um yeah, from from that Dr. Jerry, that's um that's dolomite. It's uh Is it really Ray Moore, the comedian? Um Eddie Murphy just just released uh a Netflix.

Netflix movie um about Dolomite. It's on Netflix right now. Um yeah. Dolomite is my name. My name, yeah. Is that what it is? Yeah, Dolomite is my name. My name is Dolomite or something like that. I haven't seen um But that's that's actually the real dolomite saying that on that Dr. Dre thing. Just kinda interesting. Oh, that is interesting. Um I used to I used to love those movies. He he made like five or six movies in the seventies and early eighties.

And uh you guys gotta see some of that stuff. Like the human tornado. Oh my god, it's so fucking funny. Uh just a fucking the name. He you know, he like really bad kung fu bullshit. Instead of like actually being like really good at kung fu and fast, like they just speed the tape up. You know, and make you think he's like really kicking the shit out of somebody, but it's all sped up, you know. It's hilarious, man. Because it's uh it's unintentional. He's he's actually trying to fool you.

Yeah. Fucking sounds like uh sounds like a live action version of the what is it, the boondogs? The boondogs? Which is the fucking uh yeah the boondogs, right? That's the boondogs? Which one? We have the one with Riley and uh the chip. But it's fucking, uh, what's her name? Uncle Ruckus, he's all like I he's all I got reverse verte lego. He's all instead of turning white, I turn black.

Oh yeah, and every day he wakes up, he's like every day I pray he's got a fucking shine to Ronald Reagan. He's just a shine to Ronald Ravens are like here is the best white man out of all history. And John Wayne is all get out of my place. Merci. But like he like he's legit though, he has like a fucking shrine of Ronald Reagan. He has like a fucking shrine of the Duke and he's all like, get out of here, pilgrims.

That's just a layer. But he'cause like he says the disease, you know, like he's like, I got reverse vertical lago. He's onstead of turning white, I turn black. He's a motherfucker. In America he's all fuck yeah you runs the test and shit. You're violing about your dumb other fucker. He's a janitor. You never you never seen that show, Chris? I don't think so. It's hilarious though. Do you have Hulu? Because I think it's on Hulu. It's Boondogs. The Boondogs. It's like uh

It's fun. It's hilarious. Yeah, they actually tried they they thought about uh redoing it, but it wouldn't work. Yeah there's this one episode where they're making fun of the exorcism. They and they they're making fun of the exorcist and they're performing exorcism on a black guy to make him not. And he's like, so we have the things that black people hate most. He's our upper tongue. a whip and a job application. And they start they start getting a shit starts flying everywhere.

There is man. That reminds me of the the the Chappelle stuff again with the where they're they're throwing dice up in that building. Oh fucking Ashy Larry, he's all like he made a nose and he just fucking like sprays all the ash everywhere. You have to go fucking iPads on the grits and gravy. It's a grits and gravy. Or the or the do you remember the time haters, you know the

The oh yeah the the the the the player here is ball he's all like hey yo my man's where we gonna be three though that's a good question. How about now? She just fucking shoots that dude no what the fuck Yeah. You fucking jerk cruise you know like okay young man so I can't do this I can't be no slave suit running and he's praying the hair spraying his dirt. Good God. You know go get that. They're they're beat they're beating the shit out of Hitler. They go back in time and

He's like, I'll fucking kick it. I'll hear the mama got one big titties and one little too and they called it bitch biggest smiles. I'll fucking them up. Shit. I'm gonna watch that. That sh that shows fucking awesome, dude. I've got that. I've got the the the the two seasons, the two really good seasons on.

box set somewhere in the in the room. I'll have to go find that tonight. I have it too. Actually uh my fucking mom bought it from me when I was like fucking ten. She got but hey it's yeah it it's here somewhere but I gotta just look for it. But yeah, like the third season wasn't all that great'cause like he was already like he even s he even says it now that like he was mentally checked out and he knew he wasn't gonna fucking redo it. Mm-hmm.'Cause he said that

Yeah, he said that they were trying to fucking like, oh no, you can't say this no more, you can't say that. And he was like, Man, fuck this, I don't got time for this, you know? Like Well and and it was kind of And Charlie Murphy and the other guy kind of limp through that season. It was kinda Ooh, sorry guys, you know. But like uh but like e even then though like they were on uh

I think they they were even both on uh Joe Rogan's podcast after a while and they even like admitted like, Yeah man, like without without Dave, it it's just not gonna work. It's just one of those things that you need you know, you need that one focal person that we needed him and Like we all knew it was done already and I was like, Yeah, that's and they're I mean they're fucking funny as fucking sketches, but

Yeah. You need a whole team, man. Exactly. They had some great stuff, but it was the Dave Chappelle show. It wasn't the Charlie Murphy show. Exactly. Um let's face it, I mean he like uh what was that old movie Half Baked? He really stole that show, man. You know, he stole that movie. Yeah, what he did. Ele é assim, mano, eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i que eu f***i

And great too. The the other two funny dudes on that show were great. But um Oh yeah, then uh who else? Uh'cause that one guy who fucking feeds the horse on the fucking food. He's also in uh Rocket Man. Remember that movie Rocket Man? Uh yeah. Um And he's all like my horse is a diabetic. He's all I didn't know. He's all he wanted pizza, so I fell him. He's all officer down, I'll When he when he's getting when he's getting ready to feed the horse just before he goes,

Are you hungry, honey? And this this big black lady walks by. She goes, Yo, fuck you, nigga. You hungry, darling, or something? Oh, it was so funny. Um oh man, so but I mean it wouldn't have been the same without Chappelle, you know.

I'm sure. Even as funny as those other guys were, they were funny too. But um you know, yeah, he just they couldn't survive. And even now, you know, it's like when they bring back those shows like Arrested Development. Um I don't know if you had you ever you ever seen that old show or Hella for me. Hell of Doc. Have you ever seen that old show Arrested Development?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hella funny. They but they they killed the show and then it was off the air for like ten years and then he tried to bring it back with the same people and it was like Yeah, it didn't even last a season. Yeah. Yeah, they fucked it up. They should've let it just go in the first place, you know. It was stupid. I would say the last the the last show that's like funny like that where it doesn't give a fuck.

Is um Eric Arn No, no, um Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Oh yeah, that's I like that show. Definitely, yeah. You do or you don't. Oh, I do. I like it. I've seen it's uh with Danny DeVito, right? Yeah, yeah, Danny DeVito always fucking kills that show, man. He's fucking funny. Yeah, it doesn't come until Yeah. He's funny as shit. Yeah, he's uh he's a classic man.

Yeah, even mom likes that show, man. I was surprised. But uh so yeah, man. So uh you you just going to Redland tomorrow for the day? Just going down for the day. I'm gonna go check out uh a couple music stores if I feel up to it.

Uh but I think I'm gonna I wanted to do it today, man. I was uh the store I wanted to go to was closed today though, so I bagged it. Uh but uh yeah, I think I'm gonna go tomorrow and uh just hang out, man, come back and And go to work, man, just trying to get through the month. And then how uh how far is it from? What's that?

How far is residence from you? Uh it's just south of s of uh San Bernardino, so I don't know. How far is that? Oh, okay. So it's not that far. Not that far. Two three hours maybe? Yeah. Uh the the the city's called Fontana, but it's all like fucking messed out, like fucking breaking bad. So it's kind of just known as fucking Fontucki. Fantuki. I don't remember that. Yeah, go right here, man. Hey, all you motherfuckers, this is from Pontuckey, where's the ice?

Well, you know, if I if I get an itchin' for some some crack and some hookers, you know, I know where to go, man. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, I'll look at the day. All right. Well, what do you think? All right. We don't uh We don't wanna keep you up any you know any longer, man. So thanks for doing the podcast, man. Yeah, brother. I'll do another I'll do another one anytime you want, guys. It's always a pleasure.

All right. Thanks, man. Yeah, we'll we'll we'll be definitely hitting you up and talking about more uh bullshit and shit that we uh patient love about Utah I guess. So call me up next time, man. We'll talk about some shit and shit. No. Alright, brother. İzlediğiniz için teşekkür ederim.

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