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Coronavirus With Captain Borax!

Apr 01, 20201 hr 51 minSeason 1Ep. 24
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Summary

The hosts share their frustrations with COVID-19 restrictions, contrasting it with brief moments of appreciating nature's recovery and the struggle with media overload. The conversation then journeys through nostalgic, often twisted, childhood memories of bullfights and their parents' unique lives. They delve into Utah's evolving, historically strict liquor laws, highlighting the impact of the 2002 Olympics. Vivid tales from a three-month music gig in Cabo San Lucas, filled with wild parties, rock star encounters, and cautionary advice for tourists, are also shared. The episode concludes with discussions on the challenges of finding authentic Mexican food in Utah, navigating the local bar scene, and the distinct experience of living as an "outsider" in a predominantly LDS state, alongside travel anecdotes across Wyoming and South Dakota.

Episode description

Catching up with the man himself about these odd times and how to get by with every day life while being restricted. Talking about personal stories and Utah as a whole and the direction it is headed in

Transcript

Initial Lockdown Frustrations & Clean Air

Hey, what? Hey, what's up, man? How you doing? Ah, not much, guys. How you all doing? Uh it's out here in the garage, sun's out, got a fucking got a Pacifico in my hand. So So it's going pretty good, man. Yeah, that's that's going real good. Yeah. Yeah. What? I missed that. What'd you say? Um he was just saying a gay joke. I don't know why you said it, but yeah. Yeah. I'm afraid to ask.

It's it sucks. It's um hang on a sec, I'm stepping outside here, it's a less noisy, but um yeah, it's not real fun. You guys hear me okay? Yeah we hear you dependent. Yeah. Um it's probably uh similar to what you guys are experiencing up there with uh Just the same kind of bullshit. But um it's just more than anything, it's kind of uh frustrating.

'Cause um I mean there's so many things you could be doing but you can't. I don't know. No, yeah, exactly like you got everyone in fucking McKinsey running around fucking buying toilet paper left and right. Right. Acting a fucking fool and just being stupid and I mean, at least I get out of the house, I go work, which is cool, you know.

Escaping News & Finding Peace

Yeah. But like I was telling Quentin, you know, like not last week but the week before I went to uh Enzyme Peak on a Sunday morning. Mm just to go clear my head man and it was probably like the nicest most peaceful fucking thing I had fucking like endured in a while, you know? Um nice. Yeah, like it the trail was dead. Like nobody was on. Maybe like two other people were on it.

And like uh you could tell there was no pollution, bro. Like there was no conversion. There was you could see you could see as far, like you could see the whole fucking lake, bro. You could see, you know Oh wow. Yeah, it was real cool, man. It was real nice, but Although I mean I uh i I get it, you know like

I think people seeing the way, you know, like how clean the error is and how, you know, different the shit is now that we're not fucking it up. I wonder I really wonder if like jobs will be like giving people more of the option to work from home, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. You know, yeah, I've heard that um I haven't seen any of it but I've heard that like places like China, for example, you know that

the the dolphins are coming back into the bays and you know where apparently things are I don't know. Um and the atmosphere is just great. Yeah. So it it's interesting, man. It's uh it makes everybody kind of kick back and And think about things a little bit. It's um it's also a little bit uh it's I'm I'm using it to do stuff, you know, my video stuff and and different things and working on the book as usual, but

Um, at the same time, you know, it's there's also that part of me that's just kinda bored, you know. Oh yeah, no, for sure, bro. I mean I was saying like at least I at least I get to get out and like actually go to work even though it's in like an indoor s uh setting. like at least at least I get I I get to go though, but like once I come back, I'm just like And I yeah, you know, like Quentin's mom, you know, she she just watches CNN all fuck like literally bro all day. So I'm just like

Oh yeah, you got she sent me she sent me a a thing on Messenger saying, you know, how Chris Cuomo got fucking uh coronavirus and I I just responded good. And she's like, What? And she was I'm like, I'm sorry, man, like I'm tired of watching

Childhood Bullfights & Twisted Humor

Fucking the general Lee or some shit. I don't know. Put something else on, please. Well that's it. Yeah, you know, you gotta take a break from that stuff. Absolutely. I I feel the same way. I you know, I'll usually get up in the mornings and

And uh it's weird, man, with my job thing, but I'll I'll pop on uh I'll pop on the news for about a half hour and then I'm like, okay, I've had enough of that shit. Same as yesterday. I mean like you just you just want to be like, you know, you want to see what's going on, you wanna be current

everything up to date, but I'm I'm the same way, man. Like after a half an hour or an hour, I'm I'm like, okay, let's let's let's watch that's planning. Yeah, exactly. Let's watch the office or let's I don't know, let's fucking watch uh I don't know, someone get fucking gored to death. I don't know. Let's spot something spot something different, you know? Let's let's drop past it and watch a bull fight, man. That's like the best line ever. Did you ever see Caddy Shack? Yeah.

I love that line. She's like, What do you do for food? to drop ass and go to bullfights. Could you imagine It's a classic. You ever been to a bull fight? Uh not personally no I haven't actually done. Oh my god, my dad my dad was so fucking funny, man, when I was growing up.

Probably where I get my sick sense of humor from. But he's to well, him and my mom used to take me to see the most outrageous movies that you would never take a child to, ever. You know? They would take me to see there was this um This is this old movie theater in my hometown in California and they've got to be a little bit more than

just one of those old, crusty old movie theaters and they they'd show weird foreign movies and stuff. It was back in the seventies, right? And and uh my mom would take me to see the most outrageously violent Western movies, you know, like A Man Called Horse. Or my my name is nobody or a man in the wilderness. Just all these movies with guys like getting scalped and gored to death and killed by grizzly bears and fucking just

Throw it in boiling water, you know. But anyway, my dad took me to when I was like nine years old, we went to a goddamn bullfight in Tijuana. I mean, can you imagine that? I mean nine years old, I'm like second grade, dude. I'm sitting there going, whoa. That's fucking awesome, man. Uh, they killed like they killed uh they killed six bulls. I remember I counted it. And um

No, the first the first four bulls, you know, they come out and they got these guys on horseback and it and the bull doesn't stand a chance. You know, I mean he's he's fucked. And he's got a sword and he's got these things like they're called like bandoleros or something like that. And they were like these big javelin looking things. Um, like darts you could throw'em that look like a big arrow.

And um I'm just sitting like and and my dad like picks a spot like right up front. I don't know what I'm babbling about. It just I don't know. It was just so much awesome though. Like it was twisted, man. I mean

Dad's Career, Parents' Long Marriage

Yeah. My dad I mean my dad wasn't like no angel either, man. I mean Right, right. Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah. Uh what did your dad do for a living, man? My dad was a um Uh he's still around too. He lives up in Sonora. He's he's an old codger now. He's about seventy eight. But he was a um a school teacher and then he became

Um then he became a vice principal and then he was principal um at the school that I went to, K through A, a little teeny school, and my mom was a librarian there. And then He became the superintendent of the school district. And then and then later I mean, that's crazy. He went all the way from that to that. And then he went back to school teaching because he hated the politics of it. Oh yeah. So bizarre. Totally bizarre, man. Like he just he did the whole thing.

And um anyway he was a really popular guy in the district, everybody really popular guy to work with'cause he's just very fair. Yeah, he's a good man. Just a good guy. But um And my mom was a librarian at the same school. And uh so you know I couldn't get away with anything, obviously. Yeah. I think you uploaded like a bunch of pictures.

It was like a there was like a young picture of you with like a helter skelter uh shirt, and I was like, Fuck yeah, that's awesome, man. Like I said, if I was in middle school, like Fucking curse would have been my fucking roll dog. Oh yeah, man, totally bro. And I saw the person right next to you like a fucking horror looking at your shirt, I was like, fuck. Well, d yeah, no man, it's I had a I had a kind of a weird upbringing, man. My parents were

My dad was like ex military and my mom and they were both it's funny, he was ex military, but he became a total hippie. And my mom was a complete hippie and they're both from they're both from LA. My mom was from well, not LA, but my mom was from um Redlands. Oh, okay. And uh I guess that's more Orange County, huh? Yeah. Um but uh dad. Dad and mom met each other at UCLA and they lived out there forever. I w I probably would have ended up in LA if they didn't um

They got some smoking deal on a house up in the foothills. Back in the old days. And they still they still fucking live there, man. It's crazy. So so your dad and your mom are still around then? Yeah, they're both they're both still around. They're still together. That's good, man. Yeah, no, it's pretty neat. They're they're a good couple. And um but it they've lived in the same house since like nineteen seventy, I think.

And it's a long time now. Isn't that crazy? It's like almost fifty years, yeah. Wow. It's fifty years, man. And they're just and and they're they're gonna move. They just bought some They bought a nice condo down in town, a little bit closer and they're excited to move and I'm like and then all of a sudden this coronavirus shit happens. And they're downsizing? Yeah, they well, they just wanna be a little closer to town. Dad's got some health stuff and

COVID-19 Suspicions & Personal Experiences

And uh but it's I don't know if they're gonna get to move because of this whole bullshit. Yeah, we try to get them out to Vegas man. Yeah, they came out here they were out here about six months ago. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, they took us out to there's this sweet ass Italian restaurant right down the street. I had a bunch of food. Yeah. They don't they don't hang out very much. They come out, spend like two days and then they're gone. Does he still drive or does he fly? Uh no, he still drives.

Wow. He's yeah, they both drive. They're I know, right? They're so old you shouldn't be driving. Oh I mean, some people can still drive, man. I mean, yeah, how yeah. Nah, they're pretty active. They're they're both, um even though dad's got some recent health things, they're both really healthy or have been healthy, you know. They're not They've uh they've all they've been pretty steady. They've been all over the world like twenty times, man. That's uh they've been in every

Every country on the planet twice. It's fucking crazy. Fucking uh I was following him, man. She's doing good. She's um She she thinks that she might possibly have the coronavirus. Um it's hard to say. Like it's it's been kind of back and forth, but Yeah. Um I don't know, you know how everybody's saying like the coronavirus thing, it's um some people are asymptomatic. Yeah. I think that's kind of where I'm at, knock on wood.

Just because um I work with so many kids, my um my immune system's pretty strong. Yeah. Yeah, like actually it's funny'cause you mentioned that because uh I was talking to Quentin's mom about And now looking back at it, I think she I think she had it, man, like back around.

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Like I I shouldn't be laughing, but she was how it was like I I I can't I can't really breathe and we're like, oh yeah that's Like hope you feel better. I would just be drinking a beer and like Quentin was just be on his phone. And I remember she'd be like, I'm gonna go lay down. We're like, all right, like hope you feel better. Then like she'll wake up like at two in the morning, she'd be like, Yeah, I still I still can't

Like, oh that sucks. And you and you start laughing. It's uh fucked up. We actually did. We're like, Oh yeah, that's that sucks. I remember she even told us she's like, I think I had it. I'm like, Yeah, yeah, you know what? Looking back at it, I think you did. But well, I mean I think I think we did too, but I think I I don't I don't know if we did. I would say m we probably had like

Maybe just the flu or some shit, but Yeah. Yeah. They were saying they were saying that a lot of people before, you know, it was even being diagnosed, they probably had it. But now that they're not really getting it'cause they're immune to it'cause they had it before, you know? Yeah, right.

That's that's what I'm hearing too. And I kinda believe it, you know,'cause you know, you get everybody gets like a little seasonal thing where they get the sniffles or some I don't know. But I feel like I've probably had it and it's coming gone.

Economy, Looting & Beastie Boys

But I don't know, man. It's this whole thing's weird because it's just jacking up the economy and Oh yeah, it's fucking up the economy grow. That's the thing that that's what scares me the most, I think. And I think the way people behave in this kind of stuff is is pretty uh scary too, you know. Oh yeah, bro, like I saw this video like these fucking

These fucking dumbasses, you know, they were just looting and shit and like they were looting right from the cops and the cops were like, Okay, like they did not give a fuck. They just And I'm like, Yeah, they like they a lot of people were laughing at the little uh That little like letter that they sent out to the public, like hey

Please try not to do any crime. But like we're not gonna respond to like crime. No, they're serious, bro. Like they're not gonna respond. Like Yeah. And these people were looting right in front of the cops, bro, and the cops did not give a fuck. They were just there. They did they did not care. Wow. Yeah, yeah. It was crazy. I didn't know where it was.

That's that's freaky, man. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like that kind of stuff. It at what point do people get so fucking freaked out after a length of time where that kind of that kind of shit starts happening? Oh well I mean I was laughing'cause like I saw I saw Paula, you know, she you know, she posts some stuff and I was like, all right, well, let's see what the missus has to say and I started laughing because I saw your fucking

little filter when you're like rapping on that little fucking flower thing and you're like the little flower thing's like dancing. Oh yeah. And I was like I just told her I was like yo, my someone call Eminem and get'em on the next track and She she loves that thing. I've she's put that up like a hundred times in the last hilarious. I remember the first time I saw that I was like.

Like, yo, Mo's that Chris fucking split bars? And they're like, Yeah, I was like, Dope. I was I was kicking some beastie boys, man. No. Fucking had Brooklyn in the house and shit. Brooklyn Some static started in the pool hall. I love Beastie Boys. They're fucking boys are cool, bro. They were one of the hipper um one of the hipper uh rap acts back in the old days, you know. They were definitely they were like that one breakthrough group that had uh hints of rock in it as well.

Yeah, yeah. I remember it was they um that first album was really popular when I was in high school, the uh license to ill or whatever. Oh yeah. License to ill. I think like like that, like Paul Revere then you got uh No sleep till Brooklyn, like just the riff alone, you know. Oh, I love that. Yeah, foot on the pedal at a du or uh boiling hotter than a boiling kettle. My job's not a job, it's a damn good time. City to city, I'ma rockin' my ride. Yeah, that was great shit, man.

Fuck yeah man. They had uh I was singing that shit the other day like by a ward. And they're they were looking at me like I was fucking possessed and shit. Well I remember they were they were that album had um a bunch of the guys from Slayer on it playing the guitars. Oh yeah. Uh like Carrie King I think did a lot of the guitar work on that.

Pandemic Work, School & Honorary Spic

Yeah, from Slayer, but yeah, that's classic. How you guys doing, man? What's up? So you're staying busy, you got your job still going and Yeah, oh yeah, man. I mean I got my job going. Uh his mom's working from all. She does call center stuff, but she works with like directly with uh Liberty Mutual. Okay. So like, yeah, she's she's not hurting, you know. Well for the time being, you know, hopefully, you know, knock on wood, she's she still stays okay, but

Um Yeah, no. I mean someone still has to go ahead and fucking take care of those, you know, elderly people, so Right. Right. I mean, yeah, I mean I Still got a job, bro. You know, can't complain. Um I got sick during the week though. I was having a stomach bug.

You know, I I was cool. I want I want I wanted to work, but they wouldn't they weren't chanting it, bro. They made me go home. Oh right, right. And they were like, Get the fuck out of here, Joaquin and I was like, Fuck you fucking spicks And they were like, No, we can't afford it and I was like Fucking serious? Like, yeah, man. And I was like, fuck. I was like, all right. Quentin, where do you where are you working at, man? Are you still you're not still in school?

Nah, they got us uh doing homework at home. Yeah, bro, he's he's a senior. He only has like fucking you would only have two months left. That's right. That's right. Okay. I I knew one of you guys was uh was still in school. It was you, okay. Um Wow, man. Yeah, isn't that weird, man? So they canceled graduation, everything? I don't know, man. They said it's just until May first.

I'm fucking uh hopefully'cause they still got us doing like the all the work and shit on the computer. I mean that's what I would think is like they You know, they they have'em fucking finish their lesson plans and then not have them walk just, you know, like every every day have this this uh this set of like uh

La last names do this last name come in and pick up your diploma, you know? Yeah, right. Um Yeah, no, I mean I that's what I told him, bro, if if I if it was me, like my senior year I'd have been like fuck all of you. Fuck all of you fucking bean eaters. Give me my goddamn fucking diploma. Just let let me be, bro. You know, I I don't I don't have to walk. Just Bean I was I was digesting your herring there, the bean eaters, man.

Teaching Challenges & Student Demographics

Oh I'm so glad to be an honorary spic, man. I I thank you so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we just throw a burrito on your burrito on each side of your shoulder, bro, like you Well that'll come in handy. That'll come in handy when we eventually go uh find some of that Richard Ramirez stuff down that neighborhood where he got his ass kicked. Oh yeah, we're there in East Alan and be like, oh no bro The white guys with us, you know you

He's uh he's that he's that one white guy from fucking the blood in, blood out. He's he's cool. He's good. He's good. No, he's uh he's all right, man. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Well, I've spent enough time around Mecis my whole life. I should be an honorary fucking taco taco bender, man. Why not?

Oh, it's funny. Um, so yeah, no, it's weird, man. They they uh they've got me still signing in on Going to work technically, time you know, signing a timesheet online and and I have to do they've been having us do these online meetings. But uh there's really not a lot I can do for my students, you know.

So what so what so what do you do, man? Do you just give them like a lesson plan for each week until you guys go back? Well, kinda. That's what they they want people doing, but because my kids are are a little more low functioning, the I asked the principal and she's like, No, just send home some send home some packets with them and I did and I did that like two weeks ago but they're yeah I think they both just chucked them in the trash and didn't even tell their parents about it.

You you t you only uh teach two kids, man? I've only got two right now, yeah. Oh shit. Wow. Yeah. How many did you have at uh West? Oh, when I was at West, the entire time I was there, I had anywhere between ten and sixteen kids. It was with uh with those kind of kids, you know. They were that's what I'm saying. Yeah, not yeah, I don't want to say those.

especially like with uh you said lower functioning that's that's a lot of kids they just need more attention exactly yeah well they were they were weird kids man because if you if you saw these kids walking down the hall you'd think they were regular ed kids 'Cause oh'cause they look totally normal. I mean they don't they dress like other kids, you know, they're socially kinda high functioning, you know. Um

But uh if you sat down and read a book with them, then you'd be like, Oh, okay, I get it. So was it like their uh it was it? What's that? So it was like their uh comprehension basically. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fucking creeps, man. Oh I see why you're here. I see why you're here. Sorry, but But yeah, man.

Utah Traffic, Vegas Casinos & Movies

beautiful there is no traffic yeah I mean even before all this they're dead streets now. I mean compared I mean compared to what I'm used to and I will be used to for a long time there ain't no traffic here Even more so now? There ain't no shit here, bro. Like no, right now it's like dead almost. So nice. It's so fucking nice. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. It's kinda like that here too. It's probably just like like Salt Lake, you know, same kind of scene.

Um everyone's out everyone's out driving around and But it's not it's not like crazy traffic and and all the stores are open except for well, I shouldn't say nonessential ones are not open. So like uh so all the casinos are right, are closed, right? They're all closed, yeah. Fuck. Is the is the sands still open or that one's been closed for a while, right? Which one's it? The sand the sand the old sands. No, that one's been gone for a while. Um

Yeah, I can't remember when they tore that down, but that's that's gotta be at least fifteen, twenty years. Yeah. So no, the one I'm thinking about is the Rio. That that one they just knocked out about what? I wanna say Oh the Rio? No, it's still there. It's still there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that place. That place is actually cool. It's still there.

Yeah, kinda off the strip. It's on the west side when you're like if you're going heading down towards LA, it's on the right hand side. Fucking uh the freeway. Did you just go in there and see fucking Kurt Russell and cr uh Fucking uh what the hell's his name? Uh uh Kevin Cosner, fucking three thousand miles braceline and shit. Is that the place they ripped off on that movie? Yeah, in the re in the reel. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that. Okay. I like that movie.

I move it's cool, man. It's it's fucking cheesy as shit, but it's cool. Yeah, there's uh there's a lot of cheesy shit like that that's been made here. I saw one recently too with Nicholas Cage that was pretty good.

California Misconceptions & Identity

Where they um I can't remember what it was called, but you should look it up. It was um it's got that kid from The Hobbit. Um anyway, they're a couple of cops and they decide to they uh they find these guys that are have a totally Stealthy little uh cachet of like stolen diamonds and shit like that, but they They go rip these guys off when they're out of town.

And uh there are a couple of cops, couple of Las Vegas cops. Anyway, that's a hell of a movie. Oh, it's crazy, man. You know what? I was uh I remember I was you ever seen that movie uh End of Watch? End of watch. It's the one with uh Jake Gyllenhaal, the dude that plays a fucking bubble boy. Yeah, I know who that is. Yeah. So it's him and uh this other little spic actor. There's supposed to be cops like in uh like East LA, like Maywood, like the areas you don't want to be in, you know?

Oh right, right. I gotta watch that. Oh, the cartel like find out it's them so they hire like these fucking low end fucking you know cousins of ours to fucking kill'em and shit. And uh Oh hey, you said you're from California, huh? And I was like, Oh yeah. And they were like, So did you grow up in the area like uh End of March, I'm all uh it wasn't that bad. I mean, that like where that's at, that's only like ten minutes away from where I grew up.

I'm like so well yeah, you really wanna see LA? Like there ain't no fucking Hollywood. Oh I never wanna go to Hollywood then. I was like exactly bitch. Like stay here and you talk about it. Isn't that funny when when people you tell you tell people you're from California and they automatically assume you're from a certain part of LA? Oh yeah, no. I said we're we're from the Porter Valley, we're uh Fucking everyone in their fucking dog speaks Spanish and uh you don't wanna be, you know, so

I tell people I'm from California and they automatically assume I'm from LA. It's like a it's a fucking monstrous state. Yeah it's a fucking it's a huge state dude like it's a you got like the lower but then you got the southern part and then you got the middle part where no one gives a fuck. No, I don't call that. That's that's where I'm from. And then you got the northern part. That's where I'm from, man. I'm I'm from that middle part that that kind of sucks, the uh San Joaquin Valley.

Modesto & California Time Warps

Yeah, see, exactly. San Joaquin Valley, man. I'm from your state. I'm from your place. San Joaquin, yeah. Fucking sucks, pick. Thanks, man. What else for well? East of uh about east of uh Fresno. northeast of Fresno in the little town up in the hills. But that was totally Hippieville up there. How far are you f how far uh was uh like Modest? Modesto is really close, it was forty five minute drive.

Yeah, Modesto sucked. That that place is a good thing. That's where one of my dad's uh my one of my dad's friends ended up moving out there like I want to say like fifteen years ago and I remember like we went up there and fuck, I think I was like I think I was in middle school. I was play I was probably like a seventh grader. I remember like

Yeah, I I used to talk to his son, you know, he he was cool. I remember like he met like these fucking kids up there. So, you know, we're like fucking shotgunning a fucking Paps Blue Ribbon and shit. I feel all trailer trashed out. Fucking I remember he was just like I remember like they would just like their their words and just like you could tell it was different. You could tell you were in South

Yeah, I'm under it. And they're looking at me like I was some fuckin' 8th wonder of the world and shit. I'm like, I'm like any other fuckin' Mexican, bro. Like, what the fuck are you looking at, you know? You're the eighth. It was uh it was a it was a trippy place, man. It c it felt like uh It felt like you went back in time.'Cause I I remember like the stores and shit. It was very like nineteen seventy ish, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And there's this one little uh city uh where we grew up in

While we where we grew up uh like by it. It's called La Hav. And Laha, bro, yeah. Yeah, so you're going, you know, you're going where we're from is called Pico, it's by Whittier, by Santa Fe Springs. So if you're going down Whittier Boulevard and you're going towards uh like Orange County, going towards the beach. Yeah. You hit La Habra and like you'll be in wittier and it'll be like all modern and shit, you know, it looks all like kinda futuristic as you get closer towards all the white people.

Hipster Takeover & Craft Beer Culture

And fucking uh then I don't know. I don't know where it just like it it's like you went into a fucking time zone, bro. Like you went into like a time zone. Well, let me see. So like So like one time I stayed I was uh I wanted to go scope out a bunch of stuff a couple of years ago down in the downtown area. Uh huh. And we s and we stayed in an area that was called La Umbra. Is that not the same thing? That's it. La Umbra. That's it.

Yeah, it was like A A M B R A something like that. Yeah, yeah, the harbor. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we sa I state Alhambra, okay, that's it. Alhambra's where all those fucking sheeps are. But fucking uh That's where that's where that's where all the Mr. Miyagis are. But no, that that place uh Alhambra's cool, but

Lahabra. Like literally bro, you'll be there driving and like I said it's all modern, you know, the buildings are modern and it has that modern feel. And then literally you just cross right over that fucking uh you cross that over with your boulevard Boulevard uh

It's like fucking you just went right back, Ted Bundy just drives across with his fucking V total speedle. And then yeah, it just it's very odd, bro. Like Total seventy as well. Total seventy yeah, like even the bot the structures of the buildings are Very fucking old. I mean it's cool. It's a cool little city, but it I mean it's just so close right there to downtown. It just it's like uh

Yeah, it's just it's odd. But it's cool though. I mean it's all hipstered out now too though, you know. So Yeah, man, the fucking hipsters are taking over everything, man. Drives me nuts. That's why, like you know, don't get me wrong, but I like Salt Lake. I really do. Like I don't plan on Yeah. But like there's parts where you go especially if you're going down, you know, uh State Street and then as you go over like

Um like even parts of like Rose Park it's starting to get very fucking hipsterish, you know? Yeah. Yep. And uh But yeah man, like I I went to this one bar bro in downtown one time. I think I went to the yeah, the green pig. That's where I went. And those it the flying pig or no green pig, yeah. So I went to the green pig. That was just a bunch of hipsters all over the place, bro. You know they fucking walked out of fucking uh

You know, fucking what the hell is that shit called? Uh that fucking show. Fucking eighteen nineties boxer and shit. Just dumb shit. Yeah, the beards. Yeah. Like if I want to drink a beer, man, I want to drink a beer that's like good, it's soothing, it's smooth. I don't want to drink a beer that has a shit ton of alcohol in it because it's not enjoyable.

And like Yeah, you just get buzzed too fast. The hipsters man, they they just make all these fucking brews where it's like twenty one percent alcohol and you can't even fucking enjoy it'cause it tastes like shit. It's not brewed right, you know? Totally, man. There's a I remember there was a place on State Street that I went to a couple of times before I moved. I think it was called Epic. Oh, yeah. You know where that place is? Yeah.

Um, I bought a couple of beers there and it was exactly like what you're saying. It was like it it they were fucking it was like barley wine. Yeah, yeah. It was like so strong. I mean, and there's some of'em where They're like that, but they're good. They're enjoyable, they're smoothable. Yeah, right. So it's just kinda it's a it's a hit and miss. You know, you're you're taking a gamble basically, you know. But

Like uh Well I think it's I think it's hard to make I think it's hard to make good beer at that kind of alcohol content, man. Exactly. Yeah. Whatever the fuck it is now. Well I don't even know what it is. It's not four anymore. What the hell is it now? Five?

Utah's Evolving Liquor Laws & History

Oh yeah, they changed it, didn't they? Open the convenience stores. That's right. But so you can buy you can buy regular beer in uh yeah in the in a gas station now, right? Yeah. What a trip. That's new. They just they just did that right after I moved down here, so I didn't get a chance to see that. That's weird to me. That's normal. It it's it's changing, bro.

It's changing for the better though, you know, like some of these fucking themes, bro. I'm like, yo, get what the fucking times asshole like. Hmm. Well it's it's uh Salt Lake I I saw a lot of changes. from the time that I moved there. You know,'cause I lived in I've been going to Salt Lake since I was a little kid'cause my dad has uh he was actually born and raised in Provo, but he lived in

He lived in um oh was it Mill Mill Creek area I would say or Murray all the way until he was um he was a teenager. He graduated from Olympus High. And but he's got a he's got sisters that still live there. Uh, he's got three sisters that still live in Salt Lake. And two of them one of them is super hardcore Mormon. And but anyway, they got a tons of kids, tons of families, tons of cousins and

aunts and uncles. So I used to sp go out to Salt Lake a lot when I was a kid, all the way through the the seventies and the early eighties and and um so I've seen a lot of changes. And then when I when I moved to Colorado. You know, you you gotta remember I was living in California my entire youth, but we would go we go out and visit and when I moved to Colorado when I was like twenty two or twenty three.

Um, we used to play gigs in Salt Lake City. We'd we'd uh pack up the truck man and go ahead out and play gigs in Salt Lake back in the and this is like in the the mid to early nineties. And um and then I ended up moving to Salt Lake. And so I've seen a lot of changes out there, man. It was um the the first time I noticed. when I started going to play music in Salt Lake and Moab. We used to go to Moab a lot. They um you had to have a

What do they call it? You had to have a membership or something like that to go on the bars. Really? It was um oh yeah, you should you should ask long time people about it. They'll they'll tell you all about it. But it used to be you'd have to have a sponsorship. to drink in the bars. So yeah, it was okay, so what it looked like is you'd you'd go up to the door and there'd be a doorman, no matter what bar it is, they always had a doorman because of that.

And they'd say, okay, well you can buy a membership and it's thirty bucks for the year or

Olympics Impact on Utah Laws

You can you can give the bar five dollars and we will sponsor you for the night. Of course, you know everybody would just do that. And um it's so I could like if I had a membership. for a certain bar I could sponsor you guys oh okay and and you'd each pay five bucks and it was the stup most fucking stupid thing in the world man and then and then before that they had um

Like when my dad was growing up, I I it wasn't around when I was drinking in Utah, but they had they had bars where you you could bring your own alcohol. They wouldn't serve you You couldn't even buy it was the weirdest thing you could buy like uh three two beer. But they would serve you liquor if you brought your own liquor. You could go in there and they'd give you a fucking Coke and you could make Jack and Cokes. Ah.

That's that weird. That is aw, yeah. So weird, man. And then all the way through the time that I've been there, they've had the thing where The um the uh it what was funny is the Olympics came to Salt Lake City in two thousand and two and I had just moved out there, right? And uh I think they they changed all the liquor laws, all that membership bullshit. They changed all that shit when that happened because the city Did not want to be embarrassed.

when all these foreigners from all over the fucking world descended on Salt Lake City from all over the fucking planet, you know. Yeah. I mean, there was like ten there was literally like ten million people in town for those Olympics. And and at the time, you know, the whole the entire valley was like one million people.

You know what I mean? And like, you know, just local. So there was like ten million people there at one point. Every single ATM machine in the entire county, you couldn't it would they were just empty. Um, I mean you could I I remember walking around downtown a bunch and I could not find a fucking cash machine for the life of me. Um, you know, the streets look like New York City, you know, on State Street up there by the Capitol.

Um down by uh Joseph Smith or um what do you call it, Temple Square. Yeah. Um, all those restaurants and ZCMI and all that stuff were down there and it was just you walk down the street and it looked like fucking Manhattan. You know, it's just fucking ass loads of people.

Um it was crazy. But you uh they changed all those laws because the the city wanted to too appear more metropolitan, uh, when these when these foreigners from all over the world descended and, you know, obviously they're gonna wanna hit the bars and all the restaurants and And you know, you get a bunch of yeah, a bunch of people from Berlin and London and all over these

These big metropolitan cities and what do you mean I have to buy a membership? You know what I mean? The fucking Germans probably just fucking roll out fucking a blue. Yeah, right. This fucking tank Blake Scrie tanks running down Main Street.

Old-School Bars & Grandpa's Drinking

But uh back in time. Fucking uh cause you know you just had a membership. It's funny because there was this one bar where we grew up in and uh so there's a street it's called Beverly Beverly Road and the other street is called Durham So there yeah, there was this one little bar, it's called it's called the the wagon wheel. It's still there.

It's been there since like the fucking I wanna say it's been there since like twenty seven or like nineteen twenty eight. Nice. So all the dudes who used to fucking uh Work at the fucking slaughterhouse, we'd go right there. It's like literally right like a fucking 30-second walk right there. Yeah, yeah. Right around the corner, there's this fucking bar called Dirty.

in that dirfee room you had a no you had to be invited to go to that bar. It was like uh like one of those uh bars that was still s around from like the prohibition. Oh nice. Yeah, I remember this one time, man. I was probably like five And I was hanging out with one of my other cousins who lives up here with us actually. And we went to the night we went to the nine nine sense store, man.

I remember my grandpa was like, All right, just give me one second. All right. It's like two in the afternoon. Next thing I look, it's like fucking seven o'clock at in the aft you know in the evening. He just left he he just left us in the fucking parking lot, dude, and he was just in there drinking with like all his fucking buddies and shit. Oh shit. I remember like I only went in there once and that was that one time. I remember going in there and uh it was very, very like nice

Like eighties, sett late eight late seventies, early eighties, you know? Yeah. Like they had a fucking uh They had a little Dig Dug machine and they had they had a little fucking uh Dig Dug that that the Pac Man, like the old one, you know that you look down on. Yeah, yeah, man. They had it in the corner and then they had uh Like the kind where uh the little table you sit on either end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they had um like first of all, reason fucking

Barracuda from Heart was playing in the background and shit. I was like, What the fuck? Like and That's very that's very specific. No, it was dude,'cause I remember I I remember specifically like and I remember Everyone in there was like smoking Cuban cigars. And it was just like one it was like one of those like Blast of the Past kind of things. You walked in and there was

They were just there, just chilling. And I think it closed down maybe honestly like four years ago it finally closed down. I think the owner Yeah, that's how you're able to get like y someone could invite you who got there and then you met you met the owner and if he liked you he would like You're in. Yeah. You got you gotta be invited. You can't just go Fucked up bro, just fucking there. I remember grandma's like, Where are you guys at? So that's a good question. I don't know.

I don't know what the Durfee room is. I don't know. Like we didn't care because we're just out there fucking playing Dig Dug and Galaga and shit. So yeah. Can you hear me on this thing? Yeah, yeah, can you hear me? Oh okay, sorry. No, no, that's h that's hilarious, man. No, you know what they there were I grew up with places like that too, and it was Um I I you know, that's that kind of shit you remember when you're a kid, you know. Um I yeah, my dad had places like that too where

Uh I totally remember shit like that. I remember my grandpa down in San Diego, you know, he lived in a country club and he he was just he was an old alcoholic, you know. And I remember going it like being like ten years old and I'd go drinking with him at the Uh the country club bar I wasn't drinking, but he you know, he'd give uh whatever he wants. Yeah, I'd sit there and drink like Shirley Temples and Cokes and eat chips and stuff, and he would just sit there and pound whiskey.

And then we'd stumble back home and we'd watch Mash and then he'd fall asleep at like six o'clock. Oh yeah, yeah. Well he would he would tell grandma he'd be like, Oh, we're just going down to the we're just going down to the the market for a second. We'd walk over to the bar.

Catholic Fiestas & Grandpa's Antics

Two hours later he's he's just wasted. It was fun. But no, I remember places like that, man. That's uh I love those those kind of memories. That's it's funny, man, that you mentioned that I remember so they used to have like this fucking uh Like personally, like I grew up Catholic, but like I wasn't like a practicing Catholic, you know. Well my grandpa was like my grandpa was you know he would go to fucking mass every Sunday, but like he wouldn't put

He would just go, you know, I I guess it just helped him cope with, you know, shit from the war and stuff. So let him be, you know. Well I remember one time and there was at the church they would have this little fucking uh No, no, they would have this uh Like in the summer, one one week out of the month, one weekend out of the month they used to have this thing called a fiesta, basically a party, right? Like a carnival.

It was a carnival. Yeah, so there was like a carnival. And I remember like we used to go ahead Friday, Saturday, Sunday. But Sunday, bro, my grandpa would get tore the fuck up because he got both. That was the end of it. So I remember like I would be like fuck it like five like between five and ten and I remember like He would be there with all my cousins and like most of my cousins were all like fucking gangbangers and shit.

Oh or shit. He'd be right there s fucking drinking with all the fucking homies and shit and they're I remember the cops would be looking at them like what the fuck is this old guy doing with all these fucking homeboys? Yeah. I remember they were like I remember like my gr our our great grandma she's like, What are you doing?

And he's like, Oh, I'm I'm drinking with the homies, you know. I'm drink uh our cousin, his name is Junior, he's like, Oh yeah, I'm drinking with Junior's homies and they're I remember like by the time it was fucking two o'clock in the afternoon, bro, he was fucking toasted. He was done. Like done I remember like

After while he was just drinking like just everything and anything fucking he would go from drinking coors, not coors like just coors as that was his beer. But since it was all fucked up, he would end up drinking. Fireball and fucking Jameson and this and that and this. And I think that's a good thing. I remember he would be like these had like this little cakewalk shit, right? I remember he'd be like, all right, he would get hungry. Uh I'm getting pretty hungry man.

Ah, we'll fucking win, you know, like, ah, so we go. And I remember this one time he tried doing it and he got so fucked up, I remember he fucking like crashed into the table and they all fucking fell off. All the all the goodies and shit. And he got he got kicked out for the whole year. I remember we'd be telling people like, Oh yeah, does your grandpa do that? and like Oh well. I guess not everyone's uh grandpa's like oh fucking spit grandpa, all right well

Fuck it. Everyone's got a everyone's got a crazy old grandpa somewhere back there, you know. I mean his dog was twenty. Yeah, like his dog, he had a he had a boxer named Popeye, and he was like twenty two, twenty. Bro, and he lived like that over there. Oh wow. I remember like there was this one big earthquake we had. I remember like he called the pound to come pick it up.

And uh remember they were like, How old was this dog? Like this dog was really fucking in good shape, you know? Like what did you feed him? Like I was like table scraps and beer. And they're like What and uh yeah, like what kind of beer is all coors, what else? Okay, I yeah, I agree. I guess then, you know, and they're uh and my gap would get all mad like the fuck these assholes what they they drink I they think I drink Budweiser? I don't know. Butt wiper. Yeah. Yeah. That's but

Cheap Beers, Hooch & Grandma's Orders

No man, I mean yeah, I don't know, you just you think a crazy shit at times, you know. Well that's uh there's there's your recipe for a good life, man. Table scraps and coors, man, or whatever. Whatever you said it was. What did he drink? Coors? Coors, yeah, coors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my

Dude, you know what was funnier than hell, man. Growing growing up in the 80s, you know, you'd see all that shit. Coors was definitely popular. But um back in the, I remember in the 70s and 80s, my dad would drink this shit called burghee. Have you ever you ever seen that shit before? Uh man, it's like one of those it's like cheap. Rot gut beer from the seventies. Like a natural light kind of? Yeah. Only w only even cheaper, man. Just just just like yeah, the rot gut shit like

It's got a lot of alcohol in it, but it tastes like shit. When you crack the can, you can smell the yeast that hasn't fermented in it, you know. And uh even sometimes he would drink the shit. Um, I I know this because I used to steal it from him. Um he drank the stuff. It was called beer. It was a white can or like a a nicotine yellow can, something like that, that just said beer in big black letters on it.

And I mean just generic beer like fucking, you know, Roadrunner or something, but you can buy that shit at the grocery store. It was cra It was the cheapest shit ever, man. But um they had uh he and his buddies had a um they had some sort of little still. They had um they used to make hooch. Oh yeah. Yeah, my dad he knew how to make all that shit. He he didn't make it very often because he had a friend that made so much of it that he didn't have to, but

He'd um he'd always have, you know, big fucking jugs. Like you know those old gallow wine jugs? Yeah, yeah. My dad would drink that shit too, which is just god awful, man. It makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it. But he would drink that and then he would so he'd empty it out, he'd rinse it out and he'd give it to his buddies and they'd fill it up with this other homemade hooch.

So they'd have like fucking homemade whiskey and vodka and just kind of shit like that. And yeah, if you wanted to get fucked up at my house, my dad had the booze. Yeah, I was just thinking like I remember when I turned twenty one. It was like me and my f all my friends, like fucking my my one fucking godfather that's like Yeah. I mean I love'em to death but like

He's like that one guy that's like trying to still get all fucked up every fucking weekend and shit, you know? Yeah, right. Um I remember my grandma was there. I think that I think I was the last one that she like, you know, she went with, but I remember she I was like telling her, like, oh, you want a beer? And she's like, Yeah. God gave me a cold forty five. I was what? Yeah, give me a cold forty five. Cold forty five. All right. And then I said, All right, they don't got cold forty five.

Okay fuck it get me uh get me a schlitz. The fuck? That was a popular one too. Okay well then get me uh Fuck it was called uh a cognac. Cognac? Yeah. Cognac. Give me a cognac and the guy the bartender's looking at her. Like lady, we don't have that. And she's like, You fucking asshole. She's like, Okay. Get me a fucking makeelobe then. And then he's like, I got that. I remember she has she like core forty five fucking cognac slit Fucking all this piss ass fucking

80s Drinks & Beer Preferences

Malt liquor and I'm like Yeah, man. Sounds like the same generation. How old is she? She's seventy. W seventy two, yeah. Yeah, she's my dad's generation. That's so I know exactly what you're talking about. But but I remember like I remember I would just look at her and like what

And she'd be like, Yeah, give me uh give me the tall boys then. I said, Gamas ain't fucking nineteen eighty five, like goddamn it. No. I'm like I uh I just ended up getting her like uh I think I got her like fireball on the air, just take this. And I shouldn't have done that'cause she got all fucked up, but

Yeah, but oh man, that's that's the stuff from the old days, man. You know it was was really popular in the eighties too. You know, I'm not old enough to have been drinking in the eighties, but I did anyway. Uh my my sisters Or my one sister I should say. I I say sisters'cause she had girlfriends that were always at the fucking house. But um

She's older and they they used to pound fucking these disgusting thing called wine coolers. Oh yeah, yeah. You ever seen that shit? Yeah man. Oh it's so disgusting. But um yeah, they would pound wine coolers. But all that beer you were talking about just takes me back. Myclobe, Lowenbrow. Um you ever seen Loenbrow? Never, no, but I mean I remember like

I remember one time also like me personally I I like PAPS. Like if I think it's a really good cheap beer for like being cheap. Like I'd rather drink that than drink uh but lot you know bud and shit. So remember I But I must look at me and she goes, What the fuck? I went, What? She goes, What are you a hick? I said, What? And she goes, Why are you drinking that? I said, Oh it's good.

She goes, Ah, you fucking She called me a coconut and I was like, Huh? What? She goes, Yeah, so you you think you're fucking white asshole and I was like, It's good beer. But yeah, I remember like T BR Yeah yeah you're fucking white trash. I was like, all right. PBR that stuff's been around forever, yeah. It's good, man. I mean I I'll drink it, it's good, but like I'd rather drink that than drink like fucking natural light or fucking what's the other one called? Uh

It it came out a few years back with like that one dude. He's like all like fucking like that Cloyd Rivers guy with like the mullet and he's like he's like he's like he's al he's always like fucking cooking on the grill and I was showing like killing a fucking deer or some shit. Um Keystone light. Yeah, sure. So like it's like you ever been on a fucking eighteen mile hike while trying to fucking carry a one thousand two hundred pound out?'cause

What the fuck? What's the fucking dude with a fucking shotgun and a goddamn mole and shit? I remember dudes in in Colorado, man, people I knew, they would they would pound a couple of beers and they'd go on big bike rides, man. You know, it's like, are you fucking kidding me? That sounds horrible. Yeah. But they liked it because it gave them like a carbohydrate rush or something. But yeah, yeah, Keystone Light. That stuff, that stuff kind of makes my stomach hurt.

It's just uh a little little too I don't know what it is, it's the yeast in it or something, but um I don't drink as much as I used to, but when I did I was I was always trying to get IPAs and shit like that. Oh yeah. That's good beer. I was a you um I remember like a while back, I think like when I first met you, you were telling me

You you you used to live in Kabul, you said, right, for a little bit? Uh I I did. I lived there for a few months. I I you know, I can't really say that I lived there because it wasn't long enough, but I was there for three or so months. So you basically just came

Cabo San Lucas: Music, Drugs, Disco

as much fucking pussy and just get fucking fucked up as much as you could. Yeah, man, it was um Well what it was is um uh I gotta g I was playing music with some guys in Let me go back outside so I can have another smoke, man. Hang on. I was playing. Oh, hang on. Can you hear me? Yeah, Dad. I was playing music with um some guys in in uh Colorado. uh that were kind of it was a southern rock band, you know, but it we lived in Colorado, it was kinda bizarre but

Um we just did a lot of cover stuff, you know, Leonard Skinner covers, Alman Brothers, that kind of stuff. And um somehow the the guy had a A manager who was pretty on the ball. This lady, I can't remember Candace something, but she hooked us up a gig in Cabo San Lucas. Nice. I don't know, can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um and uh she hooked the it was actually a place called Cabo del Rey, which is a little bit north of Cabo San Lucas, probably about twenty miles or something.

And um yeah, that was a great fucking time, man. Um I got hella funny stories about that trip. Jesus Christ. You were oh my god, man, you You have never seen so much cocaine in your life. I mean, just and I wasn't doing it, but just everywhere you went, bro. Like So w we they put us up at this place called the Tropicana. It's in Cabo del Rey just on one of the main drags and it's owned by this Japanese guy from San Diego named Ray, who's a really cool guy.

puts us up in this uh all three of us in different rooms. And I'm sharing a room with Steve Cook. God damn it. And um Sorry. I did. And um my buddy Steve Cook, who he still lives in Colorado, but he um We go into our room and we're putting our shit away because we're gonna be there for like three months. And I look down in this little cabinet, one of the drawers underneath the TV. And uh there's a huge Like in a a cellophane thing, probably probably about the size of a

I don't know. Maybe a golf ball. I looked down and I picked it up and grabbed it and I looked at it and I'd show it to Steve and I go, Dude, is that coke? And he goes, Yeah, dude. Holy fuck. And so it we looked at each other and we're like, okay, we better put it back because somebody's gonna miss that. Oh yeah. And so we wrap it up, we stick it back down there. And the manager approaches this guy, Miguel.

This guy from Spain he approaches me after a couple hours and he says hey man uh i need to get in your room man there's uh that's my office you know i i use that as my office and i left something in there And we're like, uh huh. Yeah, we saw it, but but anyway he needed his fix, man. Everybody in that town was a slinging coke. It was crazy. You'd go into we had to the discos all the time. They were they were calling'em discos back then. They're just nine

You know, playing all that kind of music that was popular at the time, like What is love? Baby don't hurt my uh put in Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And um uh the Macarena had just come out, you know, so like that shit was just going nuts and

Rock Star Encounters & Cabo Party

And I went to those clubs all the time. This is fun, man. Lots of women and Yeah, but but um this it was crazy this guy this guy was playing in a club across the street from us. Um, at this other bar it's like a sports bar or something. And I get to talking to him and he comes over and jams with us a little bit, plays keyboards and get to talking to I went to the discos a whole bunch with him. And it turns out this guy was from uh Richie Blackmore's Rainbow. Um

Uh Rainbow is a a really huge seventies prog rock band. Um And some of the other guys in that band. Richie Blackmore was from a band called Deep Purple originally. Wait, rainbow Rainbow, you mean like with fucking Yeah. Uh Dio? Yeah, with Dio. And Oh shit. And so yeah, so I talk I talked I end up hanging out with this guy so much.

And uh after a while you get to know him and it turns out he was the keyboard player in Rainbow for like six or seven years. His name's Dave Stone. He's from Canada. And um Yeah, he played with fucking Richie Blackmore, fucking Ronnie James Dio. Fucking Man on Man on the Silver Melon. Yeah, yeah, that band. Yeah, that's the band. And um So I ended up hanging out, partying with that guy the whole time I was down there for like three months.

And uh was crazy, man. He was telling me all kinds of crazy old rock and roll stories from those days, you know, about Dio and all those guys. So that was really fun, you know. Um it was just a good time, man. We went we went fishing, went surfing, um, just had a great time four-wheeling on the beach. We had this uh we had this uh old Ford Bronco that the hotel let us use and it was an old beat of shit piece of crap.

And uh Reyes is like, yeah, just take it out, man. Go take it out on the dunes and jump it. I'm like, really? And he's like, yeah, I don't give a shit. And we don't go ahead man, go ahead. Oh no, you're good, you're good. So yeah, I went I went in twenty fourteen and I went for about a week and I don't remember the first two days. It was uh Oh in cabo? Yeah, yeah, it's crazy man. Oh yeah. Jesus. It's so fuck yeah, like fucking they had fucking uh

You know, Sammy Hagar's bar, Cabo Wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They had this one they had this one bar, it's kinda like more like at the time even still I think I d I was like twenty about twenty two, gonna be twenty three ish yeah. And fucking uh There was this one little fucking like bar club called uh Squid Row and there was like three levels. Yeah, that sounds really familiar. I feel like I went in that place. Okay. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool, man. Like

Fucking beer was so fucking cheap, dude. Yeah you could buy a twelve pack for like three bucks, bro. Yeah. Like beer beer that you won't get in fucking USA ever, you know? Oh fucking Yeah. Yeah. Fucking Some cartel members on the fucking third level fucking starting coke off a chick's ass. Oh yeah. Yeah, shit was crazy, dude. Like Yeah. Um It's really like that, man. It's it's like the movies, man. Oh yeah, no, yeah. It's it's it's not fucking.

Mexico's Dangers & American Tourist

No, yeah, I wouldn't fucking know. Those people party. Like 20 rock stars all put in one. It's insane. I remember seeing guys in we at this disco we went to, it was called the Libertad. And um I remember seeing, you know, every time you'd go in the bathroom to take a piss, which is like every fucking ten minutes'cause you were pounding beers, you know. And every time he went in there there were guys like snorting rails right off the latrine. Just holy shit. Yeah. That sounds crazy, man.

Lots of uh I remember You just everywhere you went, you know, certain parts of town we'd go stumbling around, hitting different bars. We're just drinking like fish back in those days and um Yeah, it's fucking hookers and just all kinds of crazy I did I never did any of that shit, but it's they were just everywhere. You know what I mean? Like I was always I was always kinda timid with drugs and shit like that, but

But uh I'd I'd pound some alcohol. No, I didn't do I didn't do any Coke or any of that stuff, but um lot of a lot of beer drinking though. Good times, man. I love Mexico. Yeah, Mexico's cool man. It's fucking It's it's different, but it's cool. Uh you gotta know what sh you gotta know what you're getting into, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see it's different. You just gotta know it's different. It's not

You know, you you can't go over there thinking you're gonna do shit like you do here over there. Shit's not gonna fly, man. No. You can't act like an idiot. You can't be a fool down there. Yeah,'cause if they'll fucking shoot you, they don't care, bro. They they'll just Oh yeah. Like I I remember we were uh We were fucking drinking. We ended up meeting people from all over the place, man. Like we met these chicks from New York and shit. We met these chick we met people from like

Everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. We ended up meeting like these like at the yeah, about the time they were about my age, maybe a year younger than me. And there was this group of like uh chicks and like these dudes from fucking uh South Carolina. Yeah. And uh you know they they were like, Oh fuck. So like, you know, they saw me and my cousins fucking just like shot, shot, shot, we're drinking shots. I thought we're you know, we're gonna Yeah, we wanna drink with you.

So we're drinking and we're like, Well yeah, if you could hang you can hang, like, Oh fuck, man, you know, we hang with moonshine, we'll we'll we'll be all right. All right, cool, fuck it. So we're drinking with them and then fucking uh so we go to the that bar And then the next day it's the second day, yeah. The second day we wake up, you know, we start fucking right away. It's like five in the morning, the bar at the fucking uh resort opens, you know?

Yeah. In the in the pool area, so we go right away. All right, man. We just want to sleep like at two in the morning, three in the morning. Back at it at five, six o'clock in the morning. So we're drinking. And this fucking this d he comes out. And a little small white dude, his fucking eyes all fucked up and were the fuck, what happened? Hey man what happened last night? I don't know what happened.

Police Bribery & Authentic Food Search

You're fucking your your people. What? Yeah, man, your people. I started laughing at'em among my people. Bro, uh you know well you're cool bro, you know,'cause you speaks you speak English, bro. But yeah man, your people bro they they fucked me up, man. So what what were you doing? I was trying to I was trying to talk to this little Mexican chick, bro. But I think she had a boyfriend and he was getting pissed off so he fucking rocked my shit.

I I don't that'll happen man, he's all I could've used you bro is all we could've had a fucking Mexican standoff. I was like, Oh maybe to And ev every day, bro, we would see him, like say we would like meet up with them, he would have another black eye. Then he would have a fucking uh bloody nose and he would have a fucking busted lip. I'm out bro, what are you trying to do?

Oh, you know, Mexican pussy man, you know? Yeah, well yeah. If it if it's worth getting your ass kicked, go right ahead, you know. Yeah. But yeah, like the whole the whole week we were there, bro, he was fucking look like a goddamn punching bug. But um yeah, no it's uh you can't act like a fool down there, man. They um I uh another time we took uh when I was nineteen We um me and a buddy of mine hitchhiked down to California and then went across the border and

And stayed down there for about a month, went Porta Vallarta. We were all over the place, just riding the riding the buses around and Yeah, I saw some crazy shit like that, man. Cops rousting people and idiot Americans acting like that. Uh quite a it was uh it definitely was uh eye opener, man,'cause it's so it's like the Wild West down there.

Yeah, bro, like they'll pull you over and they if they know you're a marriage they'll be like, All right man, give me like give me all the money you have. If not you're going to jail, you know? Yeah. Yeah, they don't give a fuck dude. Like

Um I remember like'cause we we rode a tax with the you know from South Carolina. Sure enough where we got pulled over Right away, you know, I don't really speak the best Spanish bro, but I understand it and right away he's telling them all right give me all I said, Hey bro, there's a there's a spick in here, you know?

And he's always telling me Have them give me have them have them give me the money, you know? I said, bro, they fucking they're at the resort, bro. Like they don't have the money like that. Yeah, what do they have on'em? I said they probably got like ten bucks, bro, and a fucking dime bag. I don't know. Yeah. Sure enough, like with that dude, uh his name was Roy. And he had a he he bought a little dime bag.

And they're like, Give me it, you know. So right away he gave it to them and they were All right, go, get out of here, I don't want to see you again And he's like, Yeah I kinda wanna go back to you I said, Nah, homie, like they're not fucking around. If they tell if they told you that we don't wanna see you, don't go don't go back in, yeah. You'll go missing down. I said I literally just saved your ass, bro. So missing down, yeah. Exactly. Oh yeah, no, it's yeah, it's not a joke, man. You can uh

I don't know. I uh you know, and you see that a lot too. Like I remember being around some drunk guy one time and he was just saying the most out of control racist shit. And we're just in a noisy restaurant. Yeah, it was like, bro, I could not get away from this guy fast enough'cause people were looking at us and I'm not I'm not going down with you, pal. Uh It's like me being a fucking the ready iguana

The red iguana. That place All those hipsters in there. Have you noticed that place has been taken over by hipsters? Yeah, bro, all that whole little section is. Yeah, please do so. All right. Dude, they used to be the food. If anything the food was good, but now it's just it's so cheesy with all the hipsters. That's what I heard, man. Like a lot of you know, like people who are like who are actually from like people who are from Mexico that I work with.

They told me like it used to be really good, but like you know, all these little hips kids they all took it over and they made it shit and like my Nina when she came over here, she's like, Yeah, we gotta go try it, we gotta go try it. So I tried it, I was like, bro, I could take a shit and wrap it in a tortilla and it would be better than burrito. What the fuck?

Salt Lake City Bar Scene Reviews

Yeah, they well, it was always like American style food. It wasn't like like authentic Mexican food. Yeah. Yeah, I mean like um Yeah, because I remember like when I first moved here, bro, like I don't know if I told you the story but I remember like I'm like looking for fucking food, you know, and I'm like man, you know where there's any medicine food? Oh yeah, bro, I got you. Just go to Taco Time. So I don't know what the fuck it is. So I go Taco T and see this little fucking

Uh, you know, leave it to beaver fucker, you know, with glasses and fucking braces and he's like fucking fifteen and he's like, Oh hey sir, you're like you wanna try real authentic Mexican food? I said, Oh fuck I said, look kids I said, fuck you and fuck Taco time. He started laughing, he's like yeah, I hate this place. I'm like, okay. I was like, Man, well I asked for real Mexican food and they take me to some fucking

Taco time bullshit, like Taco time. That's like the worst food ever. Yeah, I don't I don't know, bro, but I mean wow. Yeah. Yeah. I I saw on Paula's post once in a while, she's always like she had a lot of posts where you guys were at this bar in Mill Creek, the Mill Creek area. Or the not Mill Creek, uh Uh is it Mil Creek? I think it would've been Mil Milc Mill Creek. Uh it's like off of Highland. But like they they just closed it down'cause I guess they got a bigger uh

I guess they got uh like new management but they've made it bigger. But it was like they were known for their burgers though. But it was a bar. Oh, I wonder if it was uh the the um Uh the r what is it? The rabbit something, um the cotton tail. The cotton cotton bottom. Cot the cotton bottom. Cotton bottom. I think it's

So that sounds familiar. They have really good like garlic burgers. Yeah, because I remember like I would always see like pictures of it and I'm like, fuck that place looks fucking like it might it reminds me of a place uh you know like I would go to back in Cali. I'm like that place looks fucking cool.

But I remember I saw that they closed, but then I saw that they also reopened. Like they got bought out by management, but they're they were keeping it the same, but they just expanded it, like they made it bigger, you know? But Yeah. Yeah. I was just like where the fuck is this place at? Yeah, I think that's the the cotton bottom was the I've only been in there five or six times. I know it's one of Paula's favorite places, but yeah, they make really good garlic burgers. Oh, that's cool. Um

Yeah, no, um what else has been going on up in Salt Lake? Any any new cool bars or um clubs or right now. Like fucking uh I don't know if they're uh right now I don't know if they were making anything new. I mean with the ad I you know, with this whole shit is going down, I mean I there there's a few places I wanna try though like uh that uh

Old Hangouts & Bar Named Sue

What the fuck is that place called? It's over there by that refinery. Off of Oh, uh the garage, yeah. Yeah, uh a garage on back a garage on back. That place looks dope. But yeah, I can never I I don't know where the fuck to park. Like they it says they have parking, but it's literally the fucking road and I'm like

How the fuck am I supposed to park, you know?'Cause like the way the parking structure is, it looks like it's like all fucking like I don't know, it's just odd and just weird, but Yeah. Yeah, like that place is cool. I've I've been to a few places. I've been to uh I've been to Gracie's. I've been to Squatters. That that place was trash. Um Squatters. What place do you say was that?

Gracie's. Gracie's Grace Gracie's Gracie's old school. Yeah, if you're single and you're kind of it's off of uh two hundred uh south. It's right it's right there right by the freeway. Uh 80 and all that. Like yeah, right, yeah, right there by the 80. And then right behind it is that squatter's place. And uh 200 okay. Yeah, I've tried to remember the other name. Uh I want to say temple.

West I tr I don't yeah, I don't I don't really know exactly where, but I mean it was I totally heard of that part. Yeah. So we went and like I was just thinking to myself like if you if you're trying to pull game if you're trying to pick up that's the perfect spot bro like That's the perfect spot. It really is. Well, it doesn't mean it's just a bunch of like girls from the fucking U right there, you know? So Oh right, right. But yeah, I mean

There used to be a really good place. There's a little weird little area. It's over off like forty eight hundred south in Murray, just off of state. There used to be a bunch of cool bars back there, like the five monkeys and um It's like a little biker. You ever been back there? Never man, no. I I I know I I know what you're talking about. There's a couple of there's like three different bars that are kind of clustered together. I think one of them's called

Oh shit, the ice house or something like that. And anyway, we used to all these biker bars back there and they're awesome. We used to play tons of gigs back there. Um, those are those are fun places to go get drunk and screaming, you know. But um yeah, I don't know. Salt Lake uh there used to be a place called the Dead Goat. A dead goat downtown that was you ever heard of that place? Oh man. That was a really that was a really popular bar with the locals.

Um, I think they're closed up now too. Portocall. There's a bunch of places downtown. I used to go to this place called Johnny's on second a lot too. I think that might still be there. I mean there's there's no to be honest with you, there's a lot of bars like I wanna say like between between Murray and like South Salt Lake like by all those dealerships and shit like going into the actual Salt Lake.

Oh okay, yeah. Yeah, like you got the you know, you got the Piper Down and you got like some of the other ones and shit, you know. Um that Piper Down's always fucking Yeah. I I haven't been to it yet. My uh our cousin goes to that one a lot, but um the one the one I've been to out of all of them the most, bro, is uh probably um Green Piggy. No, uh A bar name Sue. Barname Sue. Okay. This is trash though. Oh it was just trash'cause your fucking mom wants fucking, you know, coon music and shit. But

Did you say coon music? Oh my god. But But yeah, bro. It's it's a cool bar. It really is. But like'cause like you know the old apartment I used to have right there in Midville. It's perfect, bro. Like I don't have to drive. I could literally just catch a fucking lift or an Uber. A fucking five dollar ride this way. Perfect. You know? But what's it like in there just country music? No, it's everything man. It's you know Johnny Cash, fuck everything.

Good bar music then. It's cool bar music, the the saying's cool. So it's a good bar. Fucking De La Soul and fucking Key Sweat and shit. De La Soul She just wants to hear El de Barge, man. But El de Bars, man, you got any debars. But no man, it's it's cool.

Utah's Unique Social Scene & Outsiders

We I went to I went to a bar named Sue. The last time I was up in Salt Lake, um there was um let's see, uh w well when I was up doing that Bundy tour for those Australian people, um One of the guy um Brian Severson from the Bundy case, he's the guy he's the guy who bought uh Ted Bundy's car from Ted. He um he met us there and I remember these guys were the biggest dicks that were were the guys that ran

It was the one on um State Street and Murray. Uh bar name Sue. Oh yeah, so that yeah, that'cause I know there's the one over there by where you guys used live on highway. Yeah, that one's the original one from what I've heard, but I haven't been to that one. Like it's like underground and shit, like you have to go down. Um The Yeah, so the first time I went, it was cool. Then I went with your mom.

It was why because your mom like has to find the little thing to complain about, you know? Yeah. So it it it it throws everybody off. It it pisses them off. So I'm Don't spit in my fucking beer, you know? But then I went out with a few co-workers. It was cool. Yeah, it was fucking chilling, bro. It was cool, but... Yeah, no, it it is what you make of it. Oh that's every Oh yeah it is what you make of it.

If you think you It's a strange it's a strange scene in Salt Lake City, man. It's uh it's an odd place to be a single drinker type type character, you know. It's hard it's hard to participate. It's hard to be It's hard to be a single spic and fucking I mean, Lily bro, if you're not well, it's getting better, but if you're not LDS, half more than half of the population's off of the C already. Yep. Unless that person fucking walks away from the religion, then okay. But well other than that.

That was kind of that was kind of the thing I had about it. I can even think it's harder in promo than it is solid. Like I would hate to be a fucking guy going to college at BYU trying to fucking pull Actually you know what I take that back because it'd probably be really easy because they haven't done anything, you know. Yeah. Well, it's an interesting place, you know. I I know that you guys kinda like it. You've got family there and stuff, so I'm I'm glad to hear that, you know.

It was um it was a hard place for me to be personally because I didn't have a lot of roots there. And uh I don't know, I just didn't I felt I felt like I was a long ways from home. I mean to be honest with you man the whole time um the first year I moved here it was it was really hard. Like I was actually contemplating about moving back. I really was. Um Yeah, even even though I had family out here, uh it was really, really hard. Uh because I mean all of my friends were back were back home.

Embracing Utah Life & Spotting Locals

Cảm ơn các bạn đã theo dõi và hẹn gặp lại. it's it's a different way of life, you know? It's really different out here. People don't understand, bro. It if you know but like I was like fuck it, I'm gonna give it a chance, you know? Met more people, you know, met the homie Chris.

I was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna blow up his fucking YouTube and if he responds cool, if he says fuck off spic, all right, cool. You know Nah like, Oh shit, you're like a spic who wants to see fucking Ted Bundy? Yeah, fuck it. Let's go. Nah, you guys are cool, man. I get vi you know, I get vibes from people right away when I when I meet'em out. If someone's cool, I'll hang out, you know. Whatever.

It's nothing weird, but you guys gave me the cool vibe right away, so I was like, Fuck yeah. When I first met you, boy, you you weren't as fucking You know, this cutoff jacket, you got how to skelet, you got this, you got a fucking cigarette, fucking car smells like a dead stripper. I said, Fuck yeah, this is the type of dude right here, bro. Like, fuck yeah, like

Alright. I said fuck yeah, this is another dude, you know, I can have a beer with, I can fucking just shoot this shit with and talk. You know, like Yeah. There's not a lot of guys like that, there's not a lot of people like that out here where you can just be yourself. fucking get criticized and like oh you know like you're not okay first off you're not mormon you're not this you're not that

So it it was cool'cause yeah, like I knew I had an idea that you weren't from here before you even told me you weren't from here, you know? And then I was like either he's from California or he's from Uh I was even gonna say like fucking Idaho or uh Colorado. But like if he's from if he's from California either he's from Southern or he's from Up north, you know, and then right away you're like, Yeah, man, I'm from California I was like, Yeah, see that that that that explains a lot, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean the the people that are Yeah, the people that are not from there they they really do stick out. It's interesting. Um Like uh uh like for example, L D S people. I used to work with a lot of LDS people at different jobs when I was there and

And it there the LDS people that were from different states you could instantly tell. Um I mean sometimes you didn't even know they were L D S and then you'd find out, Well yeah, they were very L D S and they moved there because they have family there or they got a job working for the church somehow or something and um and uh but they were just so completely different uh than the locals. So yeah, see you can you can tell people right away. Like what what what baffles me though, bro?

My cousin and you know, and Jacob. Like how many people don't even le uh leave their cities, bro? Like how like uh when they're in West Jordan they don't they won't go to South Jordan, they won't go to Murray, they won't go they won't even go to Salt Lake, bro. They'll just stay in fucking West Jordan, you know?

Yeah. So like people when I first moved here and like right away, you know, his mom's like, Oh, you know, we should go to Wyoming, we should go here, you know, we should go see the other states that we haven't been to. I said yeah, like I'm I'm fair game, let's go. And I'm telling people like, Oh yeah, you know I went to Evanston, you know, fucking got some got some real beer like I was back in Cali, you know, got some shit. Oh yeah. You you went to you went to Wyoming?

Yeah. Like, let alone you got out of West Jordan. So, yeah, what the fuck, why would it not? And they look at me like what the fuck? Like you don't just stay here? I was like, Hell no bro, like the world's a fucking huge place, man. You gotta get out, you know? Fucking oh yeah, no, I I actually really enjoyed there's parts of Wyoming. I mean it's a pretty pretty boring and a little bit of a depressing place, but

Exploring Wyoming, South Dakota & Sturgis

Uh there's a town up there called Rollins that has this really awesome frontier prison that you could have you guys been there? Yeah, yeah, we drove by it. We I mean it was yeah, the it was closed, but I mean we drove by it. It's really uh no Wyoming Wyoming's cool as fuck, bro. I like Yeah. And like as I'm getting as I'm getting older, bro, like that whole

Getting getting a l w uh far away from people, further away from people actually sounds a lot for me, you know? So like i i if honestly bro, if South Dakota had more jobs, I would move there. But it doesn't, so I'm not gonna move. Yeah. But I mean bro, I fucking loved it. Like I loved custard, I love fuck

You know, the it was just it was cool as fuck. Even Deadwood, you know, like it was dope, bro. Like but just looking at that fucking scenery out there. It was cool as shit, man, you know, and then fucking Being the w being the two spix on fucking Mount Moriah and shit. But fucking No, you know that that part of South Dakota is outstanding. I've I've been there a couple of times and um yeah, that whole area rapid city. Yeah. Uh

Custer and oh gosh, where's some of those other little places? But I draw it. Yeah, Deadwood. That's right. Um, yeah, it's wonderful. I you know, parts of it look like California. Some of it looks like you're out on the the plains, you almost expect to see a bunch of fucking buffalo. Um yeah, old westy gold mining communities. This is beautiful, beautiful countryside. Um but it's it's different. Yeah, there's not a lot of jobs there.

No I I think uh I think the week we went I think the following week no the weekend before was uh the week before was Thur. Yeah. And uh yeah, I mean yeah, it was cool though, bro. Like I the you know, the the environment was fucking you know, everything was vibing, it was chilling, people were cool, shit. But yeah, yeah, no, it it like I said, it would if it was a place that actually had a lot more jobs, I would be there in a heartbeat, bro.

It's just one of the it's just one of those places where you know you can uh you can uh you can in enjoy the scenery and you can appreciate what it is and you can visit great you know. Yeah. Yeah, I remember uh the Sturgis trip me out when I went there. It was um you drive through town right down the main drag and there there are these enormous bars. like these these fucking four story nightclubs, biker bars, and they're and they're all empty.

Yeah, bro, yeah,'cause they're only open during fucking that whole little two weeks and then they make so much money that they could only be they could afford to be o open those only two weeks and that's it. It's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy, bro. Yeah. Yeah. They made they make so much goddamn money in that two week period they shut down for the rest of the year. And they won't be hurting, like they can actually afford to not fucking you know Like they they could literally only be open for like

You know, maybe Saturday, Sunday if they really want to, but they don't have to be open every goddamn day, you know. Yeah. And the town the town of Sturgis is not that interesting. It's just kind of a kind of a little bit of a Kind of almost like a just a dopey

Winter Driving & Wild Animal Encounters

Kind of feel to it, you know, it's kinda run down, not a lot of money going on there and yeah, it's just a place where you wanna you know it's just a place where you want to go get fucked up. Fucking, you know, try to score, C Tid. That that's all that's all it really is. That that's all I remember Yeah. I remember coming coming over that road. I can't remember what the road was, but I came through

Um and landed in South Dakota in the middle of the night. It was like four o'clock in the morning into Rapid City. And I came over this what's that? I said one of those red eyes. No, no, were you driving or were you flying?

I was driving, yeah. Shit, even when and um I just dri I left Salt Lake. I had to rent a car in in Salt Lake and hit hit that mountainside there, I can't remember what it was called, and on the other side of Custer and then you end up on the other side of that range and you're in um Rapid City but it was I was just coming through there like it was in March, I want to say, or something like that. Still kind of cold and but uh it was like four o'clock in the morning and there was this

It it was the most crazy interesting thing. There's this gigantic full moon. I mean, the biggest freaking craziest full moon I've ever seen in my life. And I'm going over this mountain road in South Dakota at four o'clock in the morning. And I'm looking on the sides of the road and uh and it starts to dawn on me that the whole

the whole road, you know, nobody out there but me. Yeah. And a UFO maybe. And way up in the altitude, and there's just deer packed on the side of the road. And I'm like, what the fuck's going on? I drive by and I look at my rear view. in my brake lights and I c I see like a whole herd of deer across, you know, behind me. I'm like, what the fuck? And I I keep drawing it was like twenty five miles I'm driving through

thousands of deer. Oh yeah. It was insane, man. I was like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, right there by the all the black hills and all that. 'Cause I Yeah, that's it. I drove through it and it was Quentin and I and like, you know, everybody else was asleep in the back but

I think Quentin fa I think he knocked out for like maybe ten minutes, but in that ten minutes, man, off the side of the road, I saw a fucking moose and I didn't realize how big a fucking moose is man. They're fucking huge. Like Yeah, they're big. My my thing was don't let this asshole cross the fucking road. 'Cause I I could see you from like way ahead. And I'm like, fuck you know. I said if you really want to, you'll pick up speed by the time I have to break

'Cause I was I was wearing like eighty something. Those motherfuckers will wreck. Oh, good, yeah, they'll fuck us up. And I was just like But then like you know, he was just chilling eating. But I know I kinda slowed down and I looked at him and This motherfucker like just the fucking the handlers alone, you know, like Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, bro. Yeah, it sucks. Crazy beautiful though, man. I mean, I absolutely I love it up there.

That um it's it's not a it's it's not a place I would want to be t be at in the winter, but um I don't think I'd I don't think I could handle living there, you know, year round. Um because I think you'd probably get some pretty pounding winners there. Yeah, no, yeah. It would be like fucking bitch. to go during the summer, I would just have someone fucking rent out the other six months that I'm not there. You know? Becky, you there, hick boy.

Right out this fucking Right out this fucking little spad and then come the fucking you know, the warm ones I'll I'll be back, you know? But Yeah. No, even Wyoming, bro, parts of Wyoming, you know, that shit was dope, dude. Like Cody and all that. That shit was nice. Oh yeah. Yeah, no, I like that. I like those kind of areas too. I've driven through Wyoming. The only turn off about Wyoming is I've driven through there in the the dead of winter before and oh my lord, man. I can imagine.

Oh bro, the the fucking the wind is blowing seventy miles an hour sideways on your car when you're driving, you know. And it's just a blizzard, you know, the snow is hitting you sideways. Yeah, it is oh that was insane. I couldn't believe it. Um I didn't really enjoy that very much. I think their winners are pretty brutal. But yeah, they're they're more brutal than the soul the Utah ones. I know that for a fact.

Fishing, Hunting & Elk Accidents

ترجمة نانسي قنقر Minnesota's fun place to go fishing and stuff. I've been fishing up there before. Um that was a blast. I caught all these northern pipes. Um that was wonderful, but uh I wouldn't want to be up there in the winter. Did you ever fish here, man, when you were here in Utah? Yeah, yeah, I did. Um I I kinda I wasn't a really big fan of the fishing there. I couldn't find anything real good, but I yeah, I went fishing there. Um I went fishing in um

Down by Santaquin quite a few times. Um trying to go out there and fish up there, remember? Should we where? Oh yeah, then when we were driving through Custer we stopped, you know, a little bit past like one of the uh visitor spots, like by one of the the lodges, you know? Yeah. And there's like this dog and there was this guy with his with his boy. And he and he was uh

And he was show you know f showing him out of fish. And the kid, you know, he had a good fucking uh right. He had a good cast. He was throwing it out and he was catching something, catching, catching. And he was fucking yeah, yeah eight he bought yeah, he probably got like literally he would just put like a little piece of fucking bologna on it, just cast it right out, and boom.

would grab on and he was just getting them man. Just killing him. Yeah, and I was like, fuck, yeah, you know, it custom would be a cool place, man,'cause I mean the scenery alone and the fishing, like that's one thing I want to do out here. Like I was telling him and Jacob. I wanna fucking fish out here and I wanna fucking get a little more into shape and fucking start hunting man'cause I drive right here off the one eleven there's fucking alk all over the co-

Well what the fuck? Oh yeah. Yeah you can't drive down Boschino fucking dead deer. Yeah. I mean like it kinda be a bitch to get out tags, but fuck it, like it would it would be cool as fuck, even like small game. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. You should, man. You should. Um, you know, and you can go you can go east a little bit too and go hunting in Colorado. It's unreal. Um

That's uh I've been out shooting. I never got anything, but I've been hunting in Colorado and I saw a lot of shit. Um you'd see elk and I mean tons of elk. But um that would that's really popular shit. But um no, I never did any hunting or not a lot of fishing in Utah. I've been fishing uh there's a lake up there up by The hell was the name of that town? It was um just uh up on the way to Evanston. Oh no, no. Over there by uh Colville and all that that that lake?

Uh yeah, I wanna say it was like Cherry Lake or something. Yeah, actually when I drove through uh like maybe what last month? Quentin? When we went with your mom? Davidson? Yeah, we I was I was driving bro and that fucking lake was completely frozen over.

Oh wow. Yeah, it was completely frozen over. Yeah. And there was a fucking there was a huge ass bull out that got fucking hit by a car, or maybe a semi, but like the half of its upper torso was still fucking intact with the head and that was a that was a damn huge out bro i l I literally almost fucking hit barely saw it in time. If I didn't see it, I would have fucking ran right over it. It would've fucked us up. But we definitely would have been flipped for sure. Yeah.

Was it uh you said it was an elk? Yeah, it was a bull it was a bull elk. It was a big fucking it was a big fucker, bro. Like it literally was as big as the whole lane, dude. I'm not even bullshitting. That shit was huge, dude. Okay. I used to when I worked in um when I was living in Colorado I worked uh for the paint crew in the summer times and for Aspen Skiing Company and we would um we'd all pile in this paint truck.

Elk Herds, Bison & Day Trip Ideas

And it was really funny like Aspen Mountain had this. This dirt road that went up the back, right? Mm-hmm. And way up on the top of the mountain. uh take the switch back road up there. There was this old warehouse they had up there where we stored all our paint stuff. And we'd go up there all the time and, you know, get paint sprayers and just different things, you know,'cause we'd paint lift shacks and Fucking um uh towers, you know, lift towers.

And um every time we went up there, man, there'd just be just loads of elk up there. Um you know, you'd come around a corner and they'd all be sleeping in the middle of the road. Damn. Right. It's like, holy shit. You come around the corner and I I remember seeing'em just scatter, you know,'cause they were just chilling in the road and there'd be like twenty of'em and suddenly just jump up and start running.

They just kind of scare the shit out of you'cause they're huge. They're like horses. Yeah, fucking bulllocks are huge, bro. Yeah. Oh my god, yeah. Really intimidating. Um, you know, to see him in person, but have you ever been up to uh what's that lake? Um Salt Lake the Island up there, Antelope. Antelope Island. Yeah, yeah we've been to it, yeah. That's pretty fun. I saw these British people trying to pet one of those bison one time up there.

And um I get out of my car and I'm like, uh, you shouldn't do that. Oh, what's up, Mike? We were just trying to get a picture with him and I'm like, Yeah, that thing'll stomp your fucking guts out. Yeah, fuck that dude. Actually I think the first time we went, we went to the visitor center and we walked out, bro, and it was like What would you say? It was about ten yards away from us? Like as soon as we fucking parked, got out of the car and we looked and it was yeah, it was probably about

Literally about ten yards away or dude. It was the one in custard was even fucking close. And there was this like fucking like white chick from fucking uh like I think she was from like And she's like, I wanna get closer My aunt's like, Oh, I don't I don't think so and I'm like, Yeah, she's from Montana, she probably fucking outruns grizzly bears every goddamn day like it's ain't nothing to her, you know. But Yeah.

Yeah no fuck that fuck that bro like if you get a Any little thing you piss off a fucking Uh you know, a bison bro. Even if you get in the car, you're still fucked. You're fucked, bro. Yeah. Oh yeah, no, it was Yeah, those things are enormous too. I mean they're they're like bigger than fucking bulls, you know, like cowbulls.

And uh they're they're just enormous and they are vi they're violent. They're fucking you see I couldn't believe these people trying to fucking take a picture with it and I'm like, Oh my god. Yeah, fine.

So what you guys up to the rest of the the day, man? No, not much, man. I mean that's the thing, bro. There's only so much we can fucking do, bro. Like we could you know we could go for a walk, but I mean there's just only so much you can do and I don't know man, it's just like one of those things where like I I wanna see some maybe this weekend or something, bro, like going to uh

Oh no, just going just going somewhere during the day, even if it's like one of those old little ghost towns just during the day, you know, go go film some shit, you know, just get out of the house.

Utah's Quirks, Ghost Towns & Podcast Scope

Just jump in your car and come down to Las Vegas, man. The spic has to change his oil, bro. So I gotta change my oil, but No, they might not let you back into Utah if you did. They're being so weird about it. I know, man. That's the thing though. I I would I would stay in Utah about I I don't know man. I mean okay, so I was gonna ask you man, so there was this uh there was this post that I saw on Facebook, right?'Cause I'm a part of like that uh

Ghost towns, uh yeah, you know, like abandoned ghost towns in Utah and shit. Yeah. And apparently in Fox Aldred County. There was like I don't know, like back in two thousand five, there was like apparently like a group of people that tried like their own fucking country in Box Albert County. It started with the Z. Yeah. I I forgot the name, bro, but like it has a sign and everything. It says it says welcome to like

Zan something and then it's like, Oh you're leaving, that's bad. It's like have fun in Utah, you know, and I was like, What the fuck? Like I thought it was bullshit, but it's in Box Alder County, and I was like, What the fuck? Okay. Yeah, and I was just like I wanna s I wanna know who this place is at. Um no it was just crazy though, like see Utah's a wacky place.

It is. I mean, I love it, but it's just like it's one of those things where like th there was literally like a fucking a little country within a state, you know? It's it's crazy, man. It's an odd place, man. You guys oughta you know, if you want to go see something new, you oughta you oughta go down to um what's an interesting little town. Let's go check out Helper. You ever been down there? I've heard a lot about it, but I haven't been to it.

You guys actually might get a kick out of it. It's kind of an old old uh old timey coal mining town, but it's got these got this old beautiful architecture, these old Buildings that people have tried to uh like they've tried to turn them into like art galleries and stuff. It's kinda interesting. In a weird way. But uh it's uh there's a lot of interesting old history there.

Um it's very an old an old West kind of town. But get in your car and drive that way, man. You'd find something cool to look at. Yeah, for sure. I mean, there's a few spots I mean we would have on our especially now. weather's changing and it's like nice and sunny. Like you can check out Liseppo, we can get uh Grafton, I mean you name it, bro. We can go check out all these spots, you know, but Ωραία. Ωραία. Ωραία. Ωραία. Ωραία. Ωραία.

Finally got fucking spokio, so you know, we're gonna fucking hit up people and piss people off, fucking call'em. Fuck it. Might as well. Yeah, you should man just start calling some people, man. I mean, because I'll sign I'll sign this guy and Quentin and Jacob, you know, that uh people are like, hey man. We want other people on the podcast. And I was like, it's not that easy, assholes. You know?

'Cause like we a a l a lot of our like high end episodes, like high viewed, are like ones with you, the ones with that guy, you know, from uh satire. Randy ha uh so um and that's the thing, like I I had to change the the settings on the fucking podcast'cause like We we were just like, fuck it, like yeah, we'll talk about true crime but we'll just talk about anything too. So I had to add that in there that we're we it's a uh literally the conversation could go anywhere, you know?

'Cause I think people were just really focused that it was just gonna be all about true crime and I was like, As much as I want it to be, we wanna just talk about everything and anything. Let's just fuck it, we'll just be ourselves, you know?

Podcast Global Reach & Future Spic Movie

'Cause people were just like, You fucking spix it, there ain't no fucking true crime And I'm like, Alright, hold on, you know, so But I mean yeah man um yeah we got we got people from we have a new one I think. So we have a listener in South Korea, we got Germany, Canada, UK I we have one in Mexico. Out of all places and fucking waters. But yeah. So we were gonna shout out to the Speak brother, but yeah. Shout out to the Speak.

Fuck yeah, you guys are real man. You guys are hilarious. What do you w what you got going on the rest of the day, bro? Uh man, I'm just um gonna go get some food here pretty soon. Starting to Still a little uh little hungry but then I'm I'm working on um I've got a a Dead Vegas video I just put together, but I need to uh

I need to put some soundtrack to it. Um, so I'm kinda working on something to put against it. I was trying to I have this old church organ here that has a really And just put some uh politicians chattering about the coronavirus in the background. Uh oh Yeah, kind of a weird little eerie video. It turned out really good. But um no uh nothing too much other than that. Just doing a little work for the school and working on that book still.

All right, man, bro. That sounds good, bro. Well man, you know I I heard you're getting hungry, so I'll I'll let you go, bro, and you know, get some fucking food in your system. But uh Yeah, yeah. Thanks for fucking trying to get up with us and just fucking shooting the shit well, you know, about being a spick and whatnot. Hey man, I'm proud to be an honorary fucking spic, bro. Oh yeah, but you're part you're you're part of the fucking uh the Brown Berets, bro. Well we got

Right on, man. I'm gonna I'm gonna uh yeah, right on. It'll uh we we'll have to come up with a really sick little movie line about that, man. Oh yeah, for sure, bro. Let's write a let's write a movie about the About the honorary spic process, you know. We'll just do the the the race of Caesar Chavez and then fucking Quento will be Caesar Chavez.

We'll figure it out, bro. But okay, sounds good, guys. Yeah. All right, man. Well, thank you, man. And uh I'll I'll talk to you soon, bro. Yeah, anytime, guys. Finish up. Bye, bro. Thank you very much.

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