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Captain borax is back!

Mar 04, 20201 hr 21 minSeason 1Ep. 16
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Summary

Captain Borax joins the Outlanders to talk about his current projects, including a Ted Bundy book and video re-shoots with new equipment. The hosts delve into Utah's restrictive medical marijuana laws, sketchy online marketplaces, and personal stories of encountering unconventional and even disturbing teachers. They also reflect on their podcast's unexpected global growth, its authentic approach to networking, and the challenges and joys of interviewing diverse guests while prioritizing genuine storytelling.

Episode description

Talking to Borax himself about life, memories, future projects in the works and multiple other subjects. Check out his YouTube channel. He goes all out on true crime more than the Average Joe don't mind some of the technical difficulties in the beginning. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9YfPChqu5nz8eBJBknFAzA?app=desktop

Transcript

Computer Woes and Online Shopping

Hello, what's up dude? What's up dudes? Hey, what's up man? How you doing? Good good. You guys uh ready to do it? Oh man, just coming home from slapping the kids around a little bit. Um you know, doing doing that kind of shit and shit. Uh No, I just trying to fucking around with uh uh video that can't can't quite seem to get it to To uh render correctly. I really need a new computer, man. Yeah, man. Same fucking same dude like

Even even if I wanted to like start getting all that shit up and running, like even now though that it's supposed to be uh like it's warming up, you know? It would be fucking it's just like bro, just trying to render that shit on my computer but take like Fucking like not like maybe yeah, three, four days, bro,'cause that fucking processor is so slow. It's like

And then it Yeah, exactly. Mine's the same way. I I just need to I know exactly what I I need to get and I just need to do it because it's so fucking frustrating. You gotta get one of them fucking uh them gaming towers, bro, with all the like that long fucking big ass processor and all that shit. Yeah yeah.

Yeah, I y you can cop one up like for a pretty good amount, like a decent price and it It's in pretty good condition, like um I don't know if they have it out there in Vegas, but it's kinda like uh it's kinda like K S L but it's called Offer Up, like just just not L D S and shit, you know? Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty much like uh they got all kinds of it's it's like uh on it's like an app it's kinda like eBay, but not as c fucking confusing. I yeah, I used to use it all the time in California.

They have a couple of those. Yeah, they have a few of'em man. So like that offer up. Trying to think of let go. Offer up, let go. Yeah, like let go, all that. Those are pretty good apps to use, man. Uh Let go. I've never heard of that one. Okay. So offer up let go. Uh I think there's one other one. There's a I don't know, the KSL one, I mean I that's where I bought my couch from, but the people were you know, the people were nice where I bought the couch from, but some of'em

Utah's Sketchy Realities

Sketches. The kind of sketchy is shit. It's like Craigslist, man. You never know. Yeah, you just gotta be careful, bro. So Yeah. They're all like KSL. I always had pretty good luck with KSL, but they're only in Utah. I think yeah,'cause it's uh it's an L D S uh website. Right, yeah. They got six percent. Which makes them instantly a little little sketchy in my view, you know. Yeah. I've bought a couple of things from Offer Up, but I've noticed that um

Uh, some people are really sketchy on offer up. I'm like, Oh my god. No, that's what I'm saying, you gotta be careful bro, like that's why that's why I would always meet people in a public place, like I'm like fuck it bro. If Yeah, meet by the Walmart. Yeah, exactly. Like me being meet me either in a public place or in a parking lot like public place where there's a lot of people'cause Yeah, you just gotta watch out, man. Meet me in the basement of this property.

Of uh behind the fucking Jerry's gold nugget. That's like Either that or the fucking low volume. Yeah, there's no fucking specs. But, you know... I noticed, man, um actually the um you know it's the same kind of thing man, you know,'cause when you buy a computer like that, you're you're buying something that somebody built. They took an old tower and they stuck a bunch of new components in it, you know. What I want there

You know, they put in you know, and they know what they're doing, you know, they put in a solid state drive, which is what apparently that's what you really need for this. You need a solid state drive, you need a fast processor. You know, like at least an eight or something like that, or even a sixteen if you can trip that high, but

what? Yeah. And a good video card. And the other thing I'm the I did notice though, if you go to eBay man, that's where it's at. There's all kinds of guys like um that have really good ratings that are uh have shit tons of uh refurbished computers and they sell'em cheap as hell compared to like some of these local Offer up. You just gotta be careful bro'cause

Mm. You're just gonna watch out with the put on the fucking towers and those computers and shit. You don't want fucking FBI raiding your goddamn place in Vegas, you know what I'm saying? So Right? Yeah, yeah. No shit. There's some truth to that, man. Yeah, this is this is a different kind of town, man. It I mean that shit I see more weird shit on KSL.

Because I watch KSL all the time to see what's going on up there, you know, and I see more shit on KSL, but you know there's tons of sketchy cats down here. Yeah, it's just uh Utah's a wild place, man. As as as pretty as it is and all that, there's something. There's some fucking cuckoos out here too. There's some wild people there, man. I've been uh I can't remember what I was looking at this morning, but there's some guy who had uh

He's like sixty or something. I maybe it was in Ogden. He had some some young he had a couple of chicks tied up in his basement or something. I I don't know what the fuck it was. Something recent. I was like, good lord, man. It was something like Um, I just can't believe the crazy shit people get up to in Salt Lake City in Ogden. I mean Utah in general, man, it's a

So like I said, man, it's a beautiful place, it's cool, the people are nice, but just as much as people are nice, there's some fucking wackos out here. But it's a different type of wacko out. It's actually fucking like insane. It's like these fucking Waco wack over. Yeah, exactly.

Utah's Restrictive Cannabis Laws

Yeah, it's uh it's bizarre. I've been kinda watching the uh the medical marijuana stuff too that's been going on up there there They have this a you probably know more about it than I do, but is it aren't they opening up applications this week?

For people, but the thing yeah the the thing is like what Nathan was saying, uh the guy who runs Utah Satire, he was saying that like uh The thing is like Utah like okay, yeah, they're gonna allow it, but they're gonna make it to where like your fucking your information and all that shit can be sold to uh

law enforcement fucking agencies so they could fucking harass you like on an on an easier fucking basis. So like D E A, FBI, local law enforcement, they're gonna they're gonna make it real hard for you. Like, yeah, you can have it. But don't be surprised if they raid your shit and they fucking

They just make your life a living how, bro. So he's like, it's gonna be a bitch for the first few years, but Oh yeah. Yeah. So that's why he told me, like that's why he was saying, you know, like if you guys like he he was talking more to me and Jacob, you know, like if you guys think about doing it

I mean, he's like, I don't know man, like, you know, you can do it, but just you know, this is what it's gonna this is what's gonna happen. Like people have to understand, like these motherfuckers are making it hard, bro. It's a near impossible. Wow.

And I I remember a few years back too when the when they first started having that conversation. That's the kind of language they always use too. Oh, we're gonna start having the conversation about medical marijuana, you know. Um I remember they said Uh Governor Herbert's thing was the first time. You know, not like e every other state around you know I I don't know and you don't know this about me really, but I don't even smoke pot. I don't

I don't it makes me feel paranoid as hell. I don't like pot, personally. Uh-huh. I don't even use pot. Literally have not I I can't remember the last time I took a hit off some weed. It's it's literally been used. And but so I so I don't have any like you know, I don't give a shit one way or the other if there's pod.

available wherever I am, you know, because it I don't use it. I don't give a shit. But yeah I it to me it's uh it's it's the most harmless drug on the planet, you know. I mean most people Yeah. You don't you don't get in your car and go fucking hit a school bus full of kids.

when you're high on weed, if anything you're afraid to leave the house, you know. You don't want to get off the couch, man, and you you just sit there and you you fall asleep or you or you eat or something. You know, you just kinda relax. You don't It's it's a very I don't know. It's and but but Utah's really stuck in this fifties conservative mentality.

I'm I mean it's b it's been a few years man since I I've smoked weed personally, like myself. Well I'm not judging about it. I ha I'm I'm just saying like I I agree with you like Whether whether, you know, like'cause it it doesn't really affect me. 'Cause I don't do it like on a fucking daily basis. So I could really care less but For the people who actually need it for like medical purposes, like you know, like this poor guy's wife, you know, like

That that's the kind of shit I'm talking about. Like Yeah. Yeah. You gotta get you gotta get rid of that whole fucking nineteen forties, nineteen fifties stigma, like Yeah, they you just said exactly the fucking the THC itself's not gonna make you go and fucking you know, start doing some fucking erradical shit to people like

It's if anything, it's gonna fucking calm you down or if it's gonna make you more focused. Like it's gonna help with ailment it's gonna help with like your inflammation and ailments of people who actually need it. So yeah. I yeah, I get it, but

I'm not cool with that whole fucking, you know, them trying to just fucking be a dick to you and they're gonna use all your information. It's awful and they have all these caveats with the what what I was what I was getting at is the When they first started having the conversation, they were saying, Oh yeah, you can buy you know, just like a state like um Colorado for example. You know, when you if you go to uh

Um, you know,'cause a lot of people that live in Utah for a lot of years, they just go to they go to Grand Junction, Glenwood Springs. Um I've done it myself, you know. Um but you could buy a certain You can buy a certain amount or whatever and they sell them in circuit certain kind of packaging that is kind of across the board. It's a

It's something that all the states are doing, right? They they all agree on okay, this this many ounces or whatever per package or gram or whatever, you know, for certain things,'cause you can buy Oh what is it? You can buy the um the gummies, you know, and the the little chocolates and you know, the edibles, I guess.

And um I I remember hearing recently when they started talking about it in Utah, they were like, Oh yeah, okay, well you can get a medical you know, and th that's um that's not medical necessarily but Uh i you can you can get the same stuff that other states give, but you can only get this much per time and you can only have this much on your person if you get pulled over.

Um, you could, you know, they just had all these little caveats that were different than Utah. And it's like I've noticed are different than other states. And I noticed that. that Utah always kinda does that with shit. Oh, okay, we'll take we'll take all the three two beer out of the the grocery stores and put real beer in there, but now we're gonna drop the DUI level down to point five.

Exactly. So it's like, yeah, we'll give you actual alcohol, but we're gonna make it a bitch for you to fucking be able to drive somewhere from point A to point B without getting fucking a D UI. Yeah, you can't forget about going to your buddies house for a football fucking game, you know, and having one beer, you're gonna get a DUI. And that's how they are about the weed thing too. Um they're gonna treat it like that. So you know it's man, I don't know. I'm not uh

Like Lyft drivers ain't gonna be bitching about it'cause they're making a fucking killing out here. You know what I'm saying? Like Lyft drivers fucking make money out here. So yeah, it's good for them. But That's true. It's one of those things where it's like you have to fucking literally have a D D Or you have to have a fucking Uber or Lyft get you and take you home'cause

You I think they said for like a beer it's two beers. And if you have a glass of wine, just one. You're done. Yeah. Like so yeah, no, the they're doing they're changing shit, but they're making it harder as well. Like, all right, bro, we we'll give you the real alcohol, but you know We're gonna drop it down to point five so you're fucked if you get caught, you know. fucking assholes. Yeah. Um it's it's just a it's just a weird thing, man. Um the uh

I you well and the thing is is like didn't they open a dispensary out in um Wendover recently? Wendover, yeah. So so okay, so you're probably thinking, Well, cool, I'll go buy weed in Wendover meanwhile. all these Utah cops and no you know they're just gonna be laying in wait for people coming out of Wendover. So they pop you a bunch of weed.

And that's what they were saying. They were saying like But they was they were like, you know, we're not gonna be looking but if we see you kinda like driving erratically and we see you, you know

We're gonna get you. We're gonna pop you. The first thing is we're gonna make sure you're not drunk before we think you have weed on you, you know. But I guess it's another reason to search you. So it's one of those things where it's like, okay, you're taking a gamble. You can go get it. Just better make sure you don't get pulled over.

Yeah. That's the thing, you know. Unless you got motherfuckers putting that shit up their asses or whatever, like one of those things, bro. Like Oh yeah, to any law enforcement out there, I don't know what You gotta you gotta find a buddy who will be your mule, you know. You know. Take one for the team again. You know, I'll just hit up uh fucking Clinton Eastwood. Like hey bro, you know how to do that movie The Mule. I need to do this in real life, bro. Come on.

Captain Borax's Current Projects

Yeah. So let's see, what uh what what's new with you man? What's you know how's shit going? How's the past few weeks been treating you? Thank you. A breather? Any questions? Amen you know? Well it looks like we're experiencing some uh technical difficulties so uh I don't know. Is there anywhere to start it? All right.

Howdy. What's up, brother? Yeah, we lost you there for a quick minute. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. That was weird, but um uh what have I been doing? Uh just been just been working a lot of um I'm planning on coming up to I'm coming up to Utah in a couple of weeks. I just got back from I just got back from California, not last weekend, the weekend before that. Um Just working on some video stuff and just working like crazy on that Ted Bundy book. Mainly. What um

What do you think you'll be out here, bro? Thinking not this, not this coming weekend, but the one after, like the the 14th. Um there's a um I've been in contact with Rogers that used to know Pete Hayward and I guess there's like six or seven of them. There's a good old boys' club and They said, uh'cause I'm taking interviews to to do his autobiography and so they invited me to come up there. I'm just waiting to hear back from'em. But

um do a bunch of recording with those guys on s on that Saturday. Oh okay, cool. We'll have to uh we'll have to link up if you're able to do it. Yeah, man. Yeah, for sure. If I have some uh you know, I'm not Hopefully I'll have uh more free time than than just Saturday, you know. So yeah, definitely, man. I'd still like to do that uh a manual David video one of these days. Nah, fuck it man, just let us know so they can start actually fucking...

Podcast Growth and Global Reach

We could fucking figure out what day we're gonna go and try to get into that fucking room, dude. Yeah. Yeah, there's uh the three rooms. Have you guys uh been doing any other podcasts? Oh yeah, man. We've uh so let's see, we mainly bro when we don't have guests on, we just you know, it's like me, Jake, Quentin.

And uh, you know, some of his friends and then there's like one of his older cousins who's uh maybe like twenty one, twenty two. Twenty two. And you know, they you know, we could j we just start talking about all kinds of shit, bro. Like nothing too serious, you know, nothing too fucking like

Yeah. Like we don't try to you know, not nothing too not I don't want to say serious, but like nothing too like uh We're just shooting the shit basically. Yeah, we're we're just talking like the way you and I are talking right now, you know? Yeah, right up right up. And uh

I mean I don't know what the fuck bro but I mean we but we must be doing something right man because people are listening you know that's great yeah man we have I think guys I think before I just check we have like over sixteen hundred uh plays We have uh we have people listening from everywhere from Califor California, excuse me, to I wanna say Massachusetts.

Wow. And we and we have some people in Germany, we have some people in Denmark, and we well, my buddy and some of his friends are listening to us out of the UK. So Yeah, I mean, nah, because like the first time, he's like, you spits must be doing something right. Well, apparently, I don't know what the fuck, like.

We're not selling we're not selling any tacos or fucking tequila tequila or anything, you know, but it's like but yeah, bro, like you know, the the the podcast is growing and Um, sometime either at the end of this month or the beginning of next month, you know, we'll have We'll have that merch out and shit and I'll send you I'll send you some. So Nice. Nice. Yeah, man.

Starting the Podcast: Overcoming Obstacles

Uh it's funny because uh you know a while back, some of my buddies were asking me like what what prompted us to start this. And I was just kinda sitting there one day and I was fucking on on YouTube and I I was listening to a podcast and uh It's I I think we told you about him before. His name is Joey Diaz. And he has like this little fucking This dude who he calls the flying Jew as a sound producer?

And uh and uh like he's uh he's very wise. Like it's it's like it's it it's like you're talking to your uncle and shit. Like an older uncle, you know. Okay. So like and yeah, this dude, the one that he calls the flying Jew, he's like maybe like two years older than me. So like he's telling him like, you know.

Don't do this, you know, like I'm t I'm telling you shit from experience, you know, like you gotta do this, do this.'Cause like he's asking questions like, you know, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? And then uh He was like, you know, if you wanna do something, man, just fucking do it, bro. Like

Don't let people fucking stop you. Don't you know, just do it. And then I was like, fuck bro, like we could have people on. You know, we could just shoot the shit and then we can just see what happens. And then I told these two guys And you know, at first I can see the reaction, they're kinda like, eh. But I know why they were kinda like, eh, because Excuse me, everything else we've ever done went to shit. Went to shit, bro. Like the YouTube channel. Um

Every time we wanted to do something, it fucking, you know, such something was in the way, you know. Uh Too much snow or fucking something failed equipment wise or fucking cops. Fucking uh cops or fucking something fell through or whatever, you know.

Just felt like it wasn't meant to be here or something. Exactly. Yeah. So then I was like, you know what? And I I kinda sold it to them. I said, We don't have to go anywhere. We could literally do it from right here. All we have to use is the fucking phone'cause like

No, this guy don't have a job. Fucking Jacob's broker than fucking San Francisco. So I'm like, fuck it, like so I'm like, fuck it, bro. Like I was looking at like different apps where you just use your phone, you know, and the sound quality's the sound quality is not gonna be bad. This anchor, and then I just saw nothing but good reviews about it, man. And I was like, fuck it, let's give it a chance. And to be honest with you, man, I didn't think

Like I'm not even trying to not be confident. I'm just being straight up. Like I thought maybe the most maybe 100 200 you know Yeah, yeah. And we've just we started this what January eleventh, twelfth? So it's been about long. Yeah, dude. So it's like and then that's when Jacob and I were talking almost two thousand in two months, yeah. I'm like, okay, we we must be doing something right, like

And that's what we just said straight up from the get go, like, you know, we're just gonna fucking be ourselves, we're just gonna talk, um, whatever. You know, we're gonna have people on.

Guest Outreach and Interview Strategy

Uh well it'll be different shit, so I'm like Well, bro, like let's talk to let's talk to like local people, you know, people that we know, people that are n I don't wanna say interesting'cause I don't want that that sounds bad. I don't wanna say that but people that you know like You can grasp their attention. So I'm like, fuck it.

I'll ask Chris if he wants to be on. You said yeah. So I'm like, fuck it, cool. You know? And then right away a lot of my a lot of my friends are like, Hey bro, like what what's your homie's name that does YouTube? I was like, Oh The homie Captain Borax, you know? They go, they check out your ship and they're like Fuck yeah, man. So they're always like, Let me know when he's gonna be on your podcast. Cool. And then when we did that one with Randy. It was really short.

Like I know he had a lot of sh uh business stuff to attend to, but he still did it. You know, he didn't have to. But like Yeah. And he was real he was real fucking cool, man. And he told us straight up, like, hey man, you know, like stay in contact, you know, like we'll do this again. It'll be longer. Just, you know, something popped up last minute. He said, Don't trip, bro. Like we got you. You know, like thank you for doing it though. It was a little cool, man. He was like...

And you he was fucking funny, bro. He was like, yeah, man, my wife thinks I'm crazy, but fuck it, you know. He's like, fuck Zach Baggins, that fucking asshole, but Chris is a cool guy and like we were just laughing. And um yeah, he was he was fucking And I told Jacob like he ain't gonna do it. And I was like What's up dudes? Oh yeah, sorry about that bro. I I realized I had the fucking I had the fucking Wi-Fi on still so it was trying to catch a signal, but I turned that shit off.

Oh no worries, man. You I'm in this weird this place I'm at is bizarre, man. Like you you step You step outside this uh setting this little call that came out and and fucking Wi Fi gets weird, man. Like I just walked out to my car when I was talking to you the first time and I think that's why I popped off. Okay.

Anyway. Yeah, it sounds good. It sounds like you guys are getting quite the audience, man. That's fantastic. I love it. Yeah, man, and like that's the thing, like I was just like fuck it bro, like it Like and like you how you were telling me, like you just gotta be persistent and you just gotta ask, like don't come off Like like an asshole, but just just be like it'cause that's the thing, we were interested. Like we're interested. So I'm like

Fuck it man. Like it'd be cool just to talk to him, talk to you, talk to whoever, you know, whoever's willing to fucking talk. Let's just talk, you know. Absolutely. And there's you know, and if and if you're creative about it. You just just think, I mean, there's so many interesting people to t to to talk to really out there. I mean, like I like for example, I was telling Paula oh, I think she just came home, by the way. I I'm talking on the podcast. Hey Polo. Hey, Paulo. Did you hear?

Um she said. Anyway, um no, I was thinking there's a guy I wanna there's a guy I wanna call an interview, but I Um I need to watch a couple more of his his films though, so I don't come off like a total Doofus, but I want to interview the guy. I found his number, I got his contacts, but I want to interview this guy. He was uh did you guys ever see that old movie Dirty Harry, the first one? The one with uh Clint Eastwood? Yeah, the really old movie. Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah.

It's like from nineteen seventy two or three or something like that. Yeah. Um older older flick, but Hell of a cop movie. I I I was raised on those cop movies, man. I fucking love'em. Um well, you know, every Charles Bronson movie. I I just love all that shit, man. Catchy, the Bronx, all that old crazy stuff, man. Love seventies and eighties cop movies. But anyway, the guy, um There was a psychopath in Dirty Harry, the original one. Uh he called himself Scorpio.

And he was um Uh this actor, his name is Andy Robinson. And uh I'm just dying to call him'cause he seems like a really cool guy. I just wanna like I just wanna hear all about his ups and downs and his career'cause he's had kind of a weird career, you know. Yeah. So the point of the point of of saying telling you that is

Interview Prep and Contacting Challenges

Fuck it man. Just reach out to people. Yeah. That's the thing, bro. Like, um like you know, I still have those, you know, I still have those numbers that you gave me. Um and like the thing with uh she who shall not be named, fucking I I I I need to um But the Will Deb Yeah, the Will De Beat. I never I never actually got to read her book, so I would at least want to read like the first few chapters of it.

Just so I have like or like just or just like the overall summary, just so I have an idea of what I'm getting myself into. Like I know I I learned a lot from that day when you told me about it and like when we went and we did that video. Tchau, tchau. according to whatever happened to her. I'm not saying nothing did or did. I'm just saying like I would just wanna read I would just wanna read it.

And uh I guess like have an idea because I don't want her just to be like, okay, well like how do you know about this? I'm not gonna be like Oh, you know, the homies in 4-action, she'll be like, fuck you, bye. Don't mention my name. I'm not, brother, I'm not. I got you.

Well no, she'll hang up on you, you know what I mean? Like you can if you want, but she'll hang up on you. I I'll I'll probably do it like at the end. At the end I'll be at the end I'll be like, Oh thank you, you know, I got all my I got all my source info from

You know, Captain Borax like motherfucker, thanks for the podcast, guys. Just fucking end it like that. Oh my god. That would be friggin' hysterical, man. Seriously, but Uh yeah no man like I we want to reach out to people just um I just need to like dissect more into that person if I don't really know who they are and then just have an idea of what I'm getting myself what we're getting ourselves into, what we're gonna talk about, you know,'cause I don't want to just to be awkward like

Oh yeah, yeah. And that's the thing, like when I hit up that guy uh you know with uh the av the activist. I knew where he was coming from. I I understood what he wanted. So that was an easier podcast and he was real fucking chill, dude. Like it was like talking to you. Like you didn't have to force a conversation, you know? So Those are always the easiest ones, you know, and um Because there's a lot of people like that out there too, man, that are just easy to talk to. You just gotta

Just gotta go for it, man. And and but it doesn't hurt to kinda research who you're trying to get in contact with a little bit'cause you never know, man. Sometimes Yeah. Yeah y yeah y you know what I mean, it just depends on what the subject is. Who you're calling what their story is, you know, y y but it's good to have a little bit of background on them. Yeah, bro, cause like when I hit up um when I hit up Vanes' number and it was his law firm.

I was like, you know, I was talking to the lady and I you know I real at first she was real chill. She was real nice. And then I left a message and he never got back. So like maybe five days later I did it again. And it's like, You fucking millennials, fuck off with your fucking podcast. I was like, fuck it. Really? So how That was about two weeks ago, so I'll probably try it again, probably tomorrow, but and then with the

Trying to remember his name, man. I can't remember his fucking name. The wo the canine fucking uh officer with the Bye man, I can't get I I can't get a hold of him, bro. Like I sent him a text and then every time I call him it just says that his uh His voicemail hasn't been set up, so it's like fuck, you know. Oh, he he may he may have gotten a new number then or something, or yeah, there may be something wrong with with him.

I I was surprised when he told me to get him to talk'cause so yeah, I bet you it's just a technical thing, man, with him.'Cause he's Yeah, yeah, nothing like uh tomorrow. I was already talking to Jacob about it, you know. Um I'm downloading that Spokio tomorrow, so you know, we can just fucking start hitting up people left and right, but

Podcast Philosophy: Authenticity & Networking

Yeah, bro. So it's just one of those things where it's like fuck man, like I wanna reach out to these people and talk to'em like Um, Like whoever's willing to talk, bro, like it's that's what it just comes down to. Like we just want to hear like people's, you know, stories and just talk about just different you know, just a wide variety of different topics, man. Like

Nothing too nothing too uh yeah,'cause I I don't wanna just be like just one um just like one topic, you know,'cause after a while it kinda gets thaled out and shit. Yeah. So Yeah. Like uh I hit I hit up Jessica. Well I'm gonna hit up Jessica, I should say again, about that new Utah podcast'cause Oh yeah. Yeah.

I um I think I sent her the I think I just I just sent her the the one with uh like you I think the first one with you and then I think I sent her the one with uh that satire dude just to kind of just let her know that, you know, I wasn't trying to fucking blow smoke out of her ass and shit, you know.

Yeah yeah. Yeah, just let her know that we're being serious and shit, so where that we can be Yeah. And that's the thing too, like And like but like they were like topics, so you know, like we're talking about like with you, we're talking about true crime, this we're just shooting the shit, you know, and then with him, we were shooting the shit with him too, and we're actually like talking about like

These real issues in the fucking state. And I don't I don't you know, like I know she has uh partners and stuff. So I I just didn't want her to like them to be like, Oh fuck these fucking spics, you know? So I'm like All right, like let's just well let's let's just show'em that we could be fucking professional and shit too, you know. No, I know what I know what you mean. I know what you mean. No, the you know what was funny, you know, and don't get don't get put off by

The reason why I keep saying keep trying, keep trying, keep trying,'cause a lot a lot of times people really do want to talk. They're just you know, they're just busy. And some people you can call Yeah and some people like like me, you guys can call me anytime you want, it's all good. But like Jessica, for example, she her and I were talking about me being on her podcast for like a year before it actually happened.

Um she kept telling me, Oh yeah, we're gonna have you in December and she was telling me that in March, you know, the the year before or whatever and I was like, Okay, whatever and I completely forgot about her. And then she just hit me up out of the blue and that happened. So she actually I I don't know, they get a lot of people lined up. It's interesting. But Yeah, because when we were talking to her, that was fucking back in Fuck, I wanna say

It had to be like Janu like maybe the mid January, toward the end of January,'cause she she said that they were completely booked up until April. Yeah. So and she she told me specifically to hit her up in March. So Yeah, yeah. I mean I ain't really like banking on it. I mean, I like I said, I'll keep being persistent, but like not annoyingly persistent, but I'll keep being persistent. But yeah. If it happens, it happens, bro. But

You know, I've I've had try to talk to some people and they've told me straight up like, Well, how many views do you have? Like how many uh how many you know how Yeah, no, no, I'm not I'm not a jokey dude. Like they've told me straight up like, Well, how many subscribers do you have? You know, and I'm like snuff uh

I don't fucking know bro. Like I'm trying to fucking talk to you, dude. Like all you gotta say is yes or no, that's fine, you know? Like I'm not gonna get butthurt over it. Just ask me. Like just just tell me, you know. And like they'll tell me they'll be like, Okay, well, uh hit me up when you have like uh five thousand listens or something. I'm like, Okay, dude.

That's that's crazy, man. Yeah, you know, it's kinda like uh how about I never call you Well no and and that's fine, like I'm not gonna name anybody, but I've had a few people do that to me where they're like, Well yeah, I'm like, Well, how many listens do you have? At the time I think we still had Did we have like six hundred?

And they were like, Well, when'd you start? Two weeks ago and they're like, Oh, that that's actually not bad and I that's pretty cool. Um, well do me a favor, yeah. And I was like, Oh yeah, sure they're like, Yeah, uh hit me up when you have five thousand and I was like Well fuck this fucking Maluk. Like I said, yeah, sure. That's fine, bro. Like Fucking you go fucking go to Mexico and suck on a fucking chorizo. Yeah, no, I hear you, man. It's like I hear you completely. It's like

Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna run into that, you know, and let's just move on, go somewhere else, you know. Yeah, that's fine,'cause like I was telling I was telling Jacob, you know, like Uh as the podcast grows, like we kinda have to return the favor, bro. It's only fair'cause I mean you started off with nothing. Like

If you want if someone else is like reaching out to you because they want you to be on. Like yeah. I see that as a compliment. Take it as take it as a compliment, bro. Like you're doing something right, you know, like you're gonna listen to me. Like Exactly. So it's like A bro, we were in that position once too. Like We don't we didn't have anybody to fucking turn to. Like we didn't have anybody like, Oh yeah, bro, you know

So sometimes you just gotta it's yeah, sometimes it's luck, sometimes it's knowing who you know. Yeah. And sometimes it's just it's it's a lot of patience too, you know, like these motherfuckers think it's gonna happen overnight.

Like this, bro, this is all for fun, man. Like this is just us shooting the shit, you know, like Yeah and like outside fighting these guys, you know, like we make something out of it, fucking cool, bro. Like as it grows and if it grows, cool man, you know, and that's what I was saying at first, like Let's approach this like it'cause it is, it's a lot of fun. This is where we can actually talk and be ourselves and not get fucking excuse me and get censored and shit, you know like

I'm not trying to go to fucking Hollywood. I'm not trying to get fucking... Harvey Weinstein and shit. I'm just trying to fucking be myself, bro. Like Dude, nobody's trying to get nobody's trying to get Harvey Weinstein, man. Oh my god. He'd come at you Harvey Wein. Yeah, so I'm just like fuck it bro, let's just do this. Let's see where it takes us, you know, like let's see

'Cause I see it as a way of networking and meeting fucking like interesting people, bro. So let's let's do something with it, you know, like so that's kind of much how I that's how I approach it, bro. Like I get to meet new people and we get to fucking you know, we get to shoot the shit with you and people we've met and And I think like I it's cool'cause like, you know, I'll use Randy as another example.

Like he was real cool. Like you could tell he doesn't have anybody to talk to about that shit'cause he's like, Yeah, my fucking wife thinks I'm a serial killer myself, you know, she probably thinks I'm fucking crazy. So like it's fucking cool that someone that's it's actually cool that someone's willing to listen to me talk about this stuff, you know?

And I was like, Yeah, man, fucking you know, like fucking tell us what you know, dude, you know? And so he was just fucking going for the time that he was able to go, but like that stuff I wanna hear, man. Like I wanna interesting shit I wanna hear like interesting things that like

Like that's the thing, man. Like, I'll never know what it was like to be alive when that guy was doing all that shit. He was. If he was a kid, like he would he remembers all that shit. Like that's how stories get passed down. Exactly. Like and it's a shame, like you know, how we were talking the last time about the hi-fi killers.

Obviously, unfortunately I everyone's gone, but yeah, that one be cool. The Emmanuel fucking David cases and be fucking cool. Just whatever, you know, whoever's willing to talk. Let's fucking talk man. Like let us tell like share us your info. Let us know what you know.

Hollywood's Dark Side and Story Skepticism

Oh absolutely, absolutely. I I got this terrible visual of Harvey Weinstein lurching after me and Walker with with a heart on, you know, and fucking That's twisted, dude. Yeah, fucking uh that'd be your worst nightmare fucking actually making it big and then you go into a room and on one on one chair you got fucking Harvey Weinsey, on the other chair you got fucking

Bill Cosby with a fucking drink ready in hand and shit. So Yeah. No thanks. Yeah, they got Corey uh Cory Haym all tied up in a chair already, dude. They're just waiting for you. Yeah, yeah, fucking poor guy, man. We just won a little ethnicity. Is it Corey Hamer or Cory Feldman?

Yeah, I'll say Cory Hain passed away. Corey Feldman. Corey Haldman's uh Cory F uh Feldman's the one that's like real fucking uh he's like really outspoken now. He's like all these motherfuckers are pedophiles, fuck all of'em, you know, they all fucking Yeah, fuck all that nasty ass shit. It's crazy, huh? Yeah. It's like, oh, you want to make it? I forgot where I I was thinking, but you know the y you just gotta get people that that oh look look she's like

Um, you gotta get people that are passionate about whatever it is, you know. Um You know, like uh like l like she who shall not be named, you know, the the wildebeest, you know, the thing about her is her her guard is up so high, man. Yeah. Uh she would love she would love the opportunity to babble on about her story, but she is so scared.

People are gonna, you know, just be totally ruthless to her. Yeah, and and here's the thing, man, like sorry brother, I don't mean to cut you off, but like here's the thing, like saying nothing didn't happen to her, I believe something did happen to her. I just don't

I just don't know if it was him or not. You know, like so that that's where I that's why I kind of fall into line. And then but just just the way the story is, like how you specifically took me on the route that she said she went to. And especially that time of year, bro, you know how fucking cold it would be? Like especially like that late of night. And then you fucking walk by.

These fuckheads right there going towards a little big Cottonilla Canyon at the seven eleven and no one helps you? Really? Like Bro, fucking seventies or not, bro. Like that that's what that's why I I could see why people are like

Bullshit, you know, because the route alone, bro, you know how fucking far that is? Like and uh yeah, you know. I mean it's fucking far, bro. You took me like so I could see where people I could see where people Who a and I'm not saying she doesn't take it serious, but I'm just saying like from a fucking uh geographical s fucking point of view. And at that time of fucking year and how cold it must have been. And decided she just went to the mouth of the fucking canyon. Bro, she was up there.

And you took me to the exact spot and I was like, bro, fucking the creek is going. It's fucking snowing and shit. Then you have to walk all that way down. Not alone not like not to fucking okay, so you got the fucking you got the weather. Then you got all these ass then you got all these asshole fucking mountain lions, bobcats, lynxes, you fucking name it, bro. You got it up there. You know? So okay, you got that.

And then you're gonna tell me not one fucking hick saw you and offered to help you? Like You know, shout out to all my hicks out there. But hey man, like it's just one of those things, bro, where I'm like Don't worry Chris, you're not a hick, you're cool. But it's just one of those things where it's like. But it's just one of those things where Yeah, man. And it's like, what the fuck, bro? Like I d so that's where I stand on it. But hey, you know what? I would be willing to listen to her.

Remaking Videos with New Equipment

And uh'cause I know she has a following. And and I'm like I'm with Paula on it'cause I talked to Paula about it one time, you know, and Paula even said like, I think something happened to her. I just don't think it was him, but something definitely did happen. Def something definitely did happen to her. And I I kinda I agree with her, you know. Yeah. But it's just one of those things world where it's like, okay, you know, like let's see what you got to say. I wanna hear it from the fucking

I want to be big, but I want to hear it from the horse's mouth herself, you know? So it's like Yeah. Yeah. So the will the beast is the wildebeest.

Fucking yelling down. Quentin and I were lapping the other day'cause we were like, Hey man, remember when we went to Chris's and shit and we were on the we were watching the video and they fucking they just fucking panned out in that fucking The the the fucking dead bodies just showed up and it said Ronda's the Will the Beast and I'm fucking purple Will the Beast Oh my god That shit was great, bro and like fucking Jacob's looking at us like

The fuck you guys talking about so I told him and he was fucking laughing. He's like he has has he shown the video yet? uh camera stand. It's the kind that you put on the um

You can put it on the outside of your car, you can put it on your windshield, you can put it on the side of your car, you can put it on the roof. Oh nice. And um I wanna part of me wants to go up and redo that video'cause Um if I, you know, when I get a new uh computer tower that handle this, you know, this editing shit, then I can stabilize it and it'll be like total four K. Excuse me brother, what you are? How long are you gonna be here for? You just gonna be here for a weekend?

I you know, I d I don't even know. It's just gonna be probably just be the weekend. Um I don't know how much it's gonna I I really honestly don't know. I know we're going Paula wants to go up and see her uh hanging with her sister and her brother. Her brother just got a new place. Um this is gonna be kinda short. I wish we were coming up on this weekend actually'cause I got a I have Monday off. Oh

But um I'll be coming up I'll be coming up a lot more. Um, definitely when summer hits too, I'll be popping up there more, man. Yeah, brother. I mean if you want to uh I mean, yeah, I'd be I'd be I'd be game to do that video again, bro. That show be dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We could totally do it, man. We could do uh we could actually you know what'd be interesting? We could do Oh man, this is actually an interesting idea. We could do that video uh with two cameras, one inside the car, you know, like facing us while we're just talking. And then we could do one uh have the outside camera doing all the four K outside. If we get an S D man, I have that uh

The stand where I can put a I we just need to buy an S D card'cause I have the GoPro and a stand that can go in the car. So it'll be facing us. Yeah, there you go. We we have an S D bro, we bought the S D yeah we have we have one. Yeah we can do it for sure. Oh yeah, no we're we're game bro, we'll help you out for sure. Okay. Let's do that then. I'll I'll just get a little uh I'll get a little uh inside um mount.

Actually I already have that one mount. That one would probably work just fine though. A fucking uh like one of those selfie sticks. I got a tripod for it. I have uh one that actually like sticks to your dashboard and you just screw it in. Yeah. The actual GoPro, you just kinda screw it in a little bit and it stays. Oh, you got some new stuff? Yeah, well we uh we actually uh his mom wanted in a raffle at work and she was like

You you do you guys even want this? If not, I'm just gonna tell them oh fuck no, fucking give it to us. Like fucking get that shit. It was like uh

It's like you know, it's one of those GoPros but it came with everything, bro, the fucking the stand for the fucking you know, the little tri the tripod, the fucking little selfie stick with it. No, that shit's badass, bro. It was one of the newer ones, it was so it's uh I think we did our first uh One of our first videos actually at the fucking false at the fucking false uh Murder murder site with fucking uh Ted Bundy's si uh salar and shit. So

New Gear and Potential Hip-Hop Guests

Okay, okay. That that's before you know, I met you and I told you about it and you just kinda looked at me and you're like, fucking spit, yo, don't listen to them, bro. I was like, all right. Hey, you wanna laugh, man? This cat this cat at my work today, this is cool bro named um he was that guy I was telling you you should uh get him on for a podcast. Actually he's got a little hip hop thing down here.

Um he gave me, he he said, Hey, come out to my car this morning. I went out to his car and he's like I uh this guy that I was doing landscaping for is moving out and he gave me all this stuff and he's like here take this and he he gave me this this this fancy case man he's And um and a couple of uh fancy bags. Um this guy gave me like this pro camera VHS setup, man. It's actually it's it's actually like not like a cheap home video one too. It's like an actual

Pro recording. Like a thirty five millimeter uh it's actually like a thirty five millimeter you know, pro fucking shooting thing that you'd like. It looks like something you'd you'd use back in the day on a porno shoot. Be careful, bro. You might not know what's on that fucking thing. What's that? What was his name again?

Uh Dion Carter. Dion Carter. Yeah, I think I still have his number on the messenger. He's uh about to hit him up. Yeah. Yeah, check him up. He's got a he's got a um He's got another homie down here that he does a lot of stuff with and I can't remember his name but They uh they both do they've got tons of recordings. Um, they do a lot of just local Local hip hop shows around here. Um Yeah, kinda kinda local based stuff, but uh pretty pretty cool stuff actually. That's pretty impressive.

Personal Life and Vegas Thrills

That's cool. Um did your uh did your did your boy ever move out there with you? Or no? My son? No, no, no. He's um he's probably coming down again pretty soon though. Oh, okay, that's cool. Yeah, I wish he would. I think he'd have...

He's just g he's not doing much up there, you know, so I'd like to see him doing something with himself, going to school or something. That's the thing, bro,'cause even like my mom and dad were telling me that like, yeah, you know, I I think you should move down here to Arizona. And I was like uh

Yeah, I don't know I don't know about all that, you know. And uh But I mean I get it, you know, like'cause I don't really see that much, bro. Like I talk to them, but I don't matter of fact my dad just hit me up, but I don't really see them like I mean I went to see them every fucking day too. I think I've seen my dad and mom I wanna say twice last year.

So Yeah. i get it you know but that's all that video that you guys posted when you were in that uh at the stratosphere right right there at the needle the high roller the high roller yeah and it was it was just slowly turning and you're like yeah the high roller and i was fucking laughing i was like I think I think it was pretty sweet, man. Braden's up there, Braden's all scared. He's like, It's all it's it's kinda high, dad. And I'm like, Oh my god, it's like you're in a fucking

Yeah you're on a goddamn apartment building, this thing. You know, it's like forty feet wide, you know, it's I don't know, it's like I said it's it's like the Titanic and he's like, Don't see that thing look fucking cool, bro, and then I know they have um I know they have like that fucking it's kinda like that uh They have like a roller coaster on top of it and then another one right that goes like up and down like Supreme Spring throwing out very far.

The stratosphere. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh that's fucking high, bro. That's I mean I'd be down to do it but that's fucking high. Yeah. I have no interest in doing that one, man,'cause that one you look I drive by it every day. And uh they have it on once in a while, but they have these fucking these things that stick out over the side of the building. I saw that bro. I I mean I'd be down to do it but

You gotta you gotta fucking throw in the wind factor up there. I'm like, fuck that. Hey man, if we die it's a good day. Fuck that fuck that nah. Hell to the fifth ring of no. No I'm I'm usually down for my chip too, but that motherfucker is hot. Yeah. I'd have to be take a lot of mascleing before you got me up on that thing, man. I'm fucked out of dude. I gotta be like it's back like where it fucking water is. I got a bunch of fuck

Mexican hookers around me and tequila and be like, all right, bro. That's it. Like don't fucking do this right now. Getting your asshole licked on the last day. Just imagine the stench man. Oh my god. But yeah, bro, nah. That's cool though man. Do you have chorizo for lunch? Chalupa's

Contrasting Regional Winters

Fucking inch. No, it's uh yeah, I like it down here, man. I I really do. Uh uh I gotta say it's been the most pleasant winter I've had in years and years, man. It's uh I can imagine, bro. I mean right now, man, it's uh It just snowed this week. It's nice, bro. I would say like maybe the last two weeks it just snowed a little bit on uh Sunday. Sunday. That's it. But you can you can feel the weather changing. It's changing, you know, which is good'cause

Like you get those nice days where you where you can actually fucking roll down your window. I mean, it's still cold, bro. It's still like thirty five, forty degrees, but the sun's out, it feels real fucking good. Um That's the thing bro. Like I was, you know, I was talking to this guy's mom and I was like man If I uh like if South Dakota had more fucking jobs

I wouldn't move out there, bro. Yeah. I just I I just don't know if I could be able to hang there for the fucking winter, you know? But Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember I remember driving through uh Rapid City and in sometime it was in like February coming through there, heading back to Salt Lake and it was I remember it was snowing like a son of a bitch and I was coming over that

There's a big pass you come over, I can't remember what it was. You go through Custer, those little towns that are Oh it's beautiful out there. Oh, it's gorgeous, man. Absolutely gorgeous. But it it kinda even reminds me of like the Sierra Mountains and uh the Sierras and Northern California up by Reno, you know. But uh Uh yeah Yellowstone fucking gorgeous'cause I mean like Salt Lake compared to like even Wyoming, bro, Wyoming gets some fucking hard snow, man. So

Fucking oh yeah, yeah. No, I could fuck all that, bro. Like I ain't I don't mind smelling. I I really don't, but bro, fuck that. Like you're talking like they literally shut down the fucking freeway to get in. That's how bad it gets. I'm not no, I'm not fucking. No, no. There's you know, there's a there's a point in your in your life where you gotta you gotta just realize, you know, you know, what's the quality of my life here?

Yeah. I don't I don't I don't care how much money I'd make in Minnesota. Is it really worth freezing my fucking balls off every time I walk from my house to my fucking car? You know. The pipes burst like And yeah. So it's like knocked out because it freezes over. I mean I don't really I don't really have to worry about that here in Salt Lake, you know, like yeah it snows it gets fucking cold and funny but not like that. No. Not no I'm not talking about everybody

Everybody has block warmers on their cars, man. They they go home and they plug their car in. Yeah, it's crazy, bro. Yeah. It's like if I wanted to do that, bro, I would just need a fucking rusher. Chill in Siberia for a couple of months. Yeah, no, fucked up. You know, everybody everybody out there's got um Everybody's got a extension cord hanging out of their their front of their car because they have to plug their car in. With a with a a block heater, man. It's like an electric blanket.

Yeah no bro you fucking there chilling. See some fucking fat ass moose just w fucking block your goddamn driveway. Like nah nah nah nah nah.

Summer Fishing and Country Music

I tell you what my man, I was I was up in I was in uh Detroit Lakes area one summer. I spent a couple months, yeah, roughly two months, maybe seven weeks. Up there and oh my god, the fishing was fucking amazing, man. Uh fuck yeah, I can I can only imagine man when we were out there in the US there, they saw this guy and his son and daughter who just fish.

Yeah, no, I can imagine catch some catch some big fucking fish out there. That little boy had a fucking great cast actually. Oh my god, dude. They had this the these people I was staying with, they had a pontoon boat and they're like, You can use it anytime you want, right? On this little lake. And um you know, maybe like a mile wide. And and it come to find out on the other side of the lake they have this

They have this uh big concert festival up there every year called the We Fest or something like that. I can't remember. It's been a few years. But So I'm out there fishing one day and goddamn Willie Nelson's jamming across the other side the fucking lake. But uh yeah, Willie Nelson, all these country stars, you know, basically, you know, uh like Toby Keith, those kind of people, you know, but um did you uh did you get scared, bro? Did did uh

Did you hear fucking uh Aunt Going Down Brookback Mountain? No, no, no, but I but it but I'm very proud that I've never watched that movie to this day, man. We never heard that song from Billy Nelson? Ain't going down to Brokeback Mountain? Yeah. No, I don't think so. I've heard his uh I've heard other shit. That's the whole uh that's the whole premise of uh Brokeback Mountain at off of his song. Like basically

It's an old it's an old song. It's an old song, but like I thought I thought my dad was bullshitting with me'cause my dad was fucking like My dad was all fucked up. He was drunk and he was like annoying my mom. He was singing it to her. And fucking my dad told me the backstory to it and I thought he was bullshit and oh yeah. That's where they got the idea from the movie from that fucking song. I was like, fucking Willie Nelson, man.

No shit, I didn't know that. That's fucking hilarious. I always I used to like that song he did, um Shotgun Willie sits around in his underwear, biting on through it, pulling out all of his hair.

Music's Legacy and Unique Voices

Sean, like uh he didn't have the best voice but his his lyrics are fucking hilarious. Yeah. I I liked it I liked his voice, man. He had the It's unique. It's different. It's i it's like uh I could listen to him more than I could listen to like Bob Dylan, you know? Uh like Bob Dylan's just he's like a great fucking singer songwriter, but

Like you can tell that that scene or you you know who it is, like, oh that's that's Willie Nelson, that's fucking Freddie Mercury, like you'd be here, you know. So Well and that's what makes them interesting though, that you can tell instantly who they are. It's like if you heard uh You know, if you heard a g certain guitar solo, even if you'd never heard the song before, you could tell that it was fucking Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin, you know, I mean that's um

The people that are unique like that, those are the ones that that sell records. They don't even have to be good, you know, they just have to be unique. Like Bob Dylan is a great example of that. Like you hear what uh I don't know his name, but the the lead singer from Rush, you know when you're listening to Rush. Yeah. He has that voice, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Right. And personally I I can't I can't hand I can't handle Rush. I it that guy's voice drives me crazy, man. But yeah, yeah. But a lot of people really identify with that guy and his lyrics, you know, and it's and you know, so who am I to say it's bullshit? You know, it's just it's just not something I like, but

You know and five you you know within like two two lines of the song who you're listening to, even if you don't know the song, you don't like it, you don't like the band, you know that's giddy lee. So That that's where the money that's where the guys who make money, you know, that's where they are. Yeah, like some some dude at work, uh'cause I had I had my Spotify on and I had uh just like classic shit playing. So fucking uh Stevie Ray Baum came on and it was um

Texas flood. Yeah, yeah. And then this this kid, he's probably like eighteen. And he's like how he's like, what kind of shit are you listening to? I was like, Good shit, motherfucker And he's like this sounds like a bunch of noise. So now they suck. I was like, fucking evaluate your life, bro. Like What's a fucking legend right there, bro. Like it's probably one of the best, if not the best, one of the fucking best to ever fucking play guitar, bro. Like are you kidding me?

You need to evaluate your life, man. You need to fucking evaluate your life, homie. It's like it don't don't don't fucking talk to me, kid. Get the fuck away from it. And that's the thing, he's like, Jimi Hendrix is better. I'm like, this guy was fucking inspired by

dude. Right. Right. Exactly. Where do you think he he learned how to play guitar from Jimi Hendrix? You know, exactly. Jimi Hendrix was fucking influenced by the fucking blues. I'm a bro, they all they all look up to someone, you know? 'Cause he was like and he and he was like, Well the doors are better. I said the doors all they're all fucking inspired by c the blues too. I'm all the fuck are you talking about man? I was like, you know what?

Yeah, no, I know man. It's um it's interesting. Um yeah, it all comes from somewhere, man. You know. It all every every type of music, you know. Uh a lot of American music too, you know, even country music. It all comes down to uh the old field haulers, you know. Country music too. Country it did I probably already said that, but country.

Rock, every form of American music comes back to the to the blues or the field haulers from the African Americans, you know. That's what I'm saying. Like you figure they come from the blues, fucking uh country alone could come from the blues. Uh fucking what folk? Fucking It definitely does. All that stuff, man. Like it it's all intertwined, you know? So

And that's when I realized like I was there and I was like fuck bro, you sound like fucking screws. You know, like you s you sound like that old fucking guy that's like man fuck all these kids. Yeah. I was like fuck it.

Recalling Unconventional Old Teachers

I work with this guy that used to fucking crack me up, man. He'd say Uh I was it was back this is back in the nineties when I was first starting to work in schools and stuff, you know. And um I worked with this other guy part-time, this kind of redneck guy. He was he was funnier and shit though. He's like, Man, you like working at that school, don't you? And I'm like, Yeah, kids are cool, man, you know, and yeah, it's fun. It's just fun. He's like, Man.

And I don't know what it was, but that just that shit displayed me, man. I remember I had this one teacher I'm not gonna say his name, but I had this one teacher and I was a seventh grader and he was a history teacher and he used to fucking smoke a he used to smoke a cigar at the first beginning of the period. Yeah.

He was a he was a big old fucking dude. He was a Marine. He was an old Marine. And uh he used to smoke a cigar a cigar beginning of like the first half of the class. Then he would finish it with like a flavored pipe. Mm. And uh Yeah, he was like real f he was fucking cool though, but he was like real tough. I remember like say like two kids wanted to fight.

It'd be like, Come over here, you little fucking pussies. So like they would go and then he'd be like, Get in the fucking closet and they're like, What? He's like, You wanna fight, right? Yeah, and get in the fucking closet and don't come out until someone wins. Is that the wait, was that the office or the No, no.

What, the teacher? No, no, no. The office or the aid. Which one are you third room? No, no. I think he he would have like say if two kids were fighting in the class, he would li he would literally be like, get up. And he would open up the closet and he would like go in there, fucking throw down until one of you wants to be a man, knock out the other one, then fucking come back out and shut the fuck up and do your work. And then he'd be like, and if no one comes out, then you're both pussies.

And everyone's gonna know you're pussies and then they'd be like He said, I thought you were a tough guy, you know what would happen. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? Yeah, I'm like but no one said anything, and that's the thing like that. Like my generation,'cause I'm older than Quentin.

That shit that like but you can't do that shit no more, bro. There's no way. So even some of the cooler teachers. But none of us none of us said anything, you know, it's just kinda just one of those things you just rolled with it, you know? And then he'd be like I remember one of the guys would be looking at a chick who's like, Well, what are you what are you gonna do? Oh, I love it. It's kind of fine.

So I'll stop being a fucking mummo and go over there and fucking jam a finger up or something or stop looking at it like a fucking creeper. What the fuck, bro? Like and you just Yeah, no, yeah, he didn't give a fuck, dude. Like he was just like I gotta come over here and deal with all you little fucking annoying assholes. Sit down, shut the fuck up, do the lesson, and get the fuck out of my room and you're like

All right then. But he was he was real cool. You're like not having a little quality time. Oh no, I mean that's why he was cool though, bro,'cause he was just real straight up, you know? Yeah. Uh yeah, he taught seventh and eighth grade, but like he said seventh graders were still like Stupid, like they were still like they were like kids though, you know. He's like eighth grade, and so you know, you're going towards high school. So

Starting to like somewhat mallow out a little bit. But yeah, no, we hi the way he was eighth grade compared to seventh grade year is like a dramatic fucking change, but Yeah. Um yeah, no, he was

He was fucking cool. Remember like he would see like one of the teachers walk by, like one of those younger teachers like in their first year and they're like small and they're real like good looking and shit, you know? And he's like Like all the girls would be out there and he he'd be like look at the teacher's on there and I was like sixty years younger.

She'd be in a wheelchair and all all the all the guys would be like, Fuck yeah and all the girls are like, What the fuck are fucking gross, man? Oh god, that guy's a fucking legend, like fuck Yeah, he after like we were his last class and then he retired, but yeah, he was There you go, Chris. You was real something else, bro. That shit was fucking hilarious.

Sometimes uh those old timers on when they're on their way out they don't really care. I I worked with this guy, um, who was on his way out too and he actually had he had cancer and he he ended up dying later, poor guy. But he was um He was an old timer teacher had been anyway, he was my the guy next door to me, right? So I used to bullshit with them all the time. And this is at the at the high school. And he he wore the

t-shirt all the time all the time. You can ask my wife if you don't blame me. 'Cause she met him. It said, I hate your students. And he would wear that to school and I'm like, Oh my God, let's be honest, Eva. And he did he did not give a shit. You'd go he'd come to work and he'd be he'd be so hung over from the night before on his on his prep period, you'd go out to the faculty

uh parking lot where all the teachers park, right? Which is right next to where all the kids are hanging out outside, you know. And he'd be passed out in his car with even cigarette smoke coming out of his car, you know. He just did he didn't give a flying fuck. It was so funny.

Teacher Misconduct and Legal Troubles

That's crazy man. Now that I think about it, like even cars have changed. Like they don't call they don't call it ashtrays anymore. They don't have those little fucking uh the cigarette lighter. Just car charges now. Yeah, like uh I had this one since you remind me of that. I had this one teacher, man, my senior year. I'm not gonna name his name, bro. He uh This one time, bro, this one girl came in our class, right?

And he's like, Hey, you guys know how old she is? And we're like, uh yeah, I think she just turned eighteen, you know. And he's like, Oh he's like, Oh yeah? Well yeah. And you know, like she was, you know, she was good looking. You know, we're like look, you know, all the guys are checking around and shit. And he's all huh. i thought you know yeah you know all right check this out what the fuck what you're gonna do you know Ja.

Yeah, bro, like as soon as he t he found out that she was eighteen, like he just ran with it and uh Oh I know who the fuck he's gonna I'm not I'm not talking about him. No. But uh yeah, bro, like it's just it's crazy just to see like how um when teachers know, you know, like, hey, this person's this. Like'cause the way he was with her before, like he would, you know, he would talk to her, but it was different. And as soon as he as he literally found out she was eighteen,

It just got creepy, you know, like and then he's like I remember like he looked at us and he's like what she's legal moral. Yeah bro, but she uh issue though, issue though, you know? That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. It was it was real crazy, bro, like

Like I was talking to Quentin today, just like stories of like teachers I used to have, man, and like when you're a kid, you know, you're like you don't see you don't really you want you you know something's wrong but you don't really understand it until you're older, you know? Yeah. But

Yeah, bro, like, you know, I'll sign him like when I was a seventh grader man. They used to have this one festival for like the all the the grades, like six to eight. It was called Fund in the Sun. It was for that it the sixth to eighth graders. And um You know, like at the time, you know, we're there, you know, you just being a fucking dumbass kid and shit and doing your thing. Trying to pick up on whatever fucking shit you can.

sound like a fucking bar junkie or some shit but you know you're trying to pick on whatever you want fucking um You know, like we'd be checking out all the girls at the time, you know, because they're doing the thing and we're like, all right, I'm gonna go talk to that bitch, you know. And then fucking We would see that one of the we would see this one teacher kinda like with us but looking like looking to, you know? I'm sorry. Sorry, go ahead. I'm sorry, man. Yeah, you're good, bro. So, uh...

So yeah, man, like outside him, like you know, you kinda you understand it's kinda like it's odd, but you don't really you can't really piece it together, you know? And then like I remember like we were talking about it like Maybe a few years back a few of my friends and I and we were like fuck bro like just

Yeah man, like they're right there with you. Like they're uh you don't really understand it. And they were you know it's just some creepy fucks, bro. So it's like yeah. Yeah, man. It's kinda it's gotta be a few of them. I've ran across a a few of them over the years. There was a guy uh at that at that high school in where I was before I moved down here and the just this year he got he um was picked they arrested him right at the school. Uh

I won't say his name, but it was it was crazy. I was reading about it and one of my friends who still works up there was telling me, she's like, Oh, remember this guy? He's um they're investigating him. It turns out that he'd uh a couple of years ago he'd been Uh he'd been sleeping with uh a student who was underaged at the school. Yeah, and then and then this just this year and it was it was kinda bizarre'cause he was an older guy, he's in his fifties.

And this girl, you know, she was underaged, you know. I mean she wasn't like super young, but she was Definitely illegal. You know, that that's that's that's not not the you know, I mean even The thing is, is even if they're even if even if they are eighteen, man, you know there's like a position of trust there. It's like what the hell is it? Yeah, you just can't. Yeah.

But um I thought that was really disturbing. You can you can look him up. He's on uh I saw him on KSL just the other day. Uh trial for it or something, but like holy shit man, why who the hell are these fucking guys? He ended up getting arrested out here in Ogden. He was yeah, he was doing like money laundering and shit. And like Yeah, bro, like he was like doing like those like pyramid schemes and shit. I'm not gonna say his name, but uh one of my friends on Facebook posted it.

And I was like, What the fuck? Like that dude looks familiar. I'm like, Where'd you get this at? It's all bro, he's that one fool that we went to school with. He's all that motherfuckers out there with you and with all them fucking... uh big chony uh polygamy flux and I was fucking dying. I was like I was like, all right, bro. And uh yeah, I was reading into it and yeah, he's in the pen. I don't know how many hours he's doing but I mean how many years, sorry, but

hours. Yeah he uh yeah he uh he got arrested bro for like money laundering and shady shit. He was a coach, wasn't he?

Workplace Humor and Unexpected Messages

Uh he was something. I don't know, he was a fucking spic. I don't know. But Uh Oh shit. Don't worry, crazy. That's crazy. You got this big pass, bro. You could say it. Don't worry about it. But um Oh, it's all good, man. It's funny there's this there's this lady I work with who's funnier and shit. She's this older black lady and And uh she talks all kinds of mad shit like that. She calls me a cracker and all this stuff. You little cracker. That's funnier than hell.

I I listened to most of this team, but like last night I got this fucking dick pic on Instagram just like out of the glue. I have to play. I'm like, wait a minute, bro. Oh, that's so fucked up, bro. There's something he's leaving out.

Because Joaquin has been sending me memes, so I'm like, oh okay, so Joaquin probably sent me one of those funny ass videos. Yeah. So I opened it, I'm like, who the fuck is this? I won't say his name. So I'm like, who the fuck is this? So it was just some like random name. I'm like, all right, I tap on it and I and it said like for you that fucking dude. But oh my god. A block. Oh, shit.

Oh hey listen brothers, I gotta get out of here, man. I gotta I gotta run run to the store and get some shit, coffee for the morning and Supplies and stuff like that. All right, brother. No problem, man. Run over some chomos on the way through. Yeah, run over some fucking space while you're at it too. I wanna tell I I fucking I'm eating anything today man, I gotta get some

Um but uh yeah man, that's funny. That's funnier than shit. You'll have to tell us the rest of that story sometime. But uh yeah, thanks for coming on, brother. We appreciate it. Anytime, man. We'll do it. Let's do it again. Alright, for sure, man. Have a good one, man. Yeah. Alright, see you guys. Alright, later.

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