Welcome to the episode of Out of the Ordinary that you-our listeners!-made with us. You all asked the best questions and offered the perfect conversation starters (and finishers!) ... We have arrived at the end of Out of the Ordinary, but every ending is a new beginning. This week, with your help, we share what our ordinary lives are like today, how and why we began this podcast, and the words and images we are using to describe this current season of completion and change. We consider the prese...
May 29, 2024•1 hr 9 min
We felt a pang as we hit record today. This is the second to final episode of 6 years of our conversations. But because conversation with a friend always does good work–we love the place where we landed. We pretty much landed this episode in heaven, didn’t we? In our second-last episode we reminisce about our six-year journey, the impact these conversations have had on us and our embrace of ordinary life. YOUR participation in the finale is requested. Click here to join the last conversation! We...
May 22, 2024•40 min
How's that for a title? But, friends, it's absolutely true. No spoilers here, but please don't miss the last ten minutes of this episode. Today we're also delighted to bring you along on a face-to-face, Lisa-Jo and Christie, book celebration day. a day of freedom (instead of fear) is possible because God heals the past how to ask friends for the support and encouragement we need the power of a praying friend our podcast has felt like a wonderful dinner party among friends, but even great dinner ...
May 15, 2024•44 min
Today we're delighted to bring you a special audio excerpt from Lisa-Jo's new book, It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping that went on sale this week. Step into the South African outback via a storm that started brewing in Maryland. From Lisa-Jo: I grew up in a family obsessed with stories. My mom used to take me out of school to see “important movies.” Her bookshelves overflowed. And my brothers grew up to make movies for a living. All that to say, friend, I hope you binge this book. I hope it read...
May 08, 2024•13 min
This was a breakthrough kind of episode. A little bit like 6 years of therapy condensed into half an hour. We hope it offers you as much of an "Aha" moment as it did for us! In this week's conversation: What if your past isn't your past? What if you could go back to the worst bits in your story and re-write them? What if your pain isn't fossilized? What if your present can set you free from your past? Click here for BOGO Offer of Lisa-Jo's new book that expires May 2 at midnight EST. Podcast lin...
May 01, 2024•33 min
We're not sure why it took us so long to figure this out (and understand how much it matters!), but of course this podcast is like a weekly memoir of ordinary life. Here's what that means for you ... In this week's conversation: Christie and Lisa-Jo explore an epiphany: they've been recording a podcast memoir all these years! Memoir-writing nudges us to reflect on the distant past podcasting nudges Lisa-Jo and Christie to reflect on the recent past Lisa-Jo explains the practice she is now using ...
Apr 24, 2024•32 min
Only a longtime friend can get away with asking some of the questions Christie asked Lisa-Jo today. We hope they are a balm to your own scarred places. In this week's conversation: A kind of live therapy takes place between Lisa-Jo and Christie Failure turns out to be a powerful catalyst for new things Growth looks unlike what we expect else maybe we'd never even try If you've ever felt like life is one wave after another and you can't catch your breath, welcome. Podcast links: We are now ad-fre...
Apr 17, 2024•35 min
Today's episode began with big smiles, journeyed through tears, and ended with laughter. In this week's conversation: Lisa-Jo explains why her new book is an Ebenezer stone Christie and Lisa-Jo realize each witnessed God making things new this week personal stories of church hurt and church healing what it looks like when God makes the sad things of life un-true Podcast links: We are now ad-free! You can help support our show with a one-time donation here or a recurring gift right here . Thank y...
Apr 10, 2024•35 min
In today's episode Lisa-Jo shares the story of how God brings each of us to a feasting table, set with a chair all ready and prepared. And what happens if you're willing to sit down. In today's conversation: Lisa-Jo finds herself unexpectedly back in a courtroom setting When your hometown is no longer your hometown. The difference between an invitation from God vs a pushy God How the Kingdom of God moves at the speed of relationships. Podcast links: We are now ad-free! You can help support our s...
Apr 03, 2024•40 min
In today's episode we unpack: The surprising work Christie has been doing How good it is to feel seen and to have our unique gifts acknowledged If God is a creator, shouldn't we embrace the creators in our communities? How to start this conversation where you are Podcast links: We are now ad-free! You can help support our show with a one-time donation here or a recurring gift right here . Thank you. We are excited about becoming fully listener supported. START reading the first free chapters of ...
Mar 27, 2024•36 min
Life is full of surprises, and often, it's in the most unexpected moments that we find profound meaning and guidance. In today's conversation Christie and Lisa-Jo discuss one specific instance that arrived much later in Christie's life than might be typical and how these instances are opportunities to stay receptive and attentive to God at work in the mundane and challenging. In today's episode we unpack: The significance of turning 50 and being a beginner again Receiving strength from the Holy ...
Mar 20, 2024•30 min
In today's episode Lisa-Jo and Christie realize they have both learned how to avoid disappointment and prepare to be happy on a special day ... Lisa-Jo is astonished to learn this about Philadelphia Christie shares everything she's discovered about celebrating milestones These friends ask: how can we better communicate expectations and desires in relationships? With spouses? young kids? teens? with our friends? Plus, different communication styles and learning to "stay in the room" to unravel co...
Mar 13, 2024•31 min
In today's episode Lisa-Jo and Christie unwrap a Peck of Purple Peppers and share the story of a sentimental seed and the final book in a gardening trilogy. It's a book launch gift haul -- unwrapped on air. Which of the the three Jane Austen gardening sisters in Christie's Trilogy are YOU? How to name a book The powerful narratives that seeds and plants carry through generations. How our family's shape our stories Bonus: Christie reads an excerpt from her new book "Seedtime and Harvest" Podcast ...
Mar 06, 2024•30 min
In today's episode Lisa-Jo and Christie celebrate a four-year project that is finally complete. What's it like to stand at the finish line? A conversation between friends on the creative process and completing a trilogy Thanks to Lisa-Jo, Christie discovers that her book is like a Jane Austen heroine Which of these three books with their distinct personalities should you read first? How writing a trilogy teaches you contentment (and how that carries over to parenting and marriage) Why some creat...
Feb 28, 2024•30 min
Lisa-Jo has a personal epiphany in the bathtub this week and Christie offers insights on the healing that comes from addressing our shadows. We're facing our demons this week -- from the safety of the bathtub! Lisa-Jo looks in the mirror of her past and doesn't like what she sees Christie points us to the cyclical nature of life that can bring order and understanding out of the darkness--especially as it relates to parenting teens. Lisa-Jo tells the story of confronting one of the worst shadows ...
Feb 21, 2024•45 min
In today's episode, Lisa-Jo and Christie do something they've never done before ... they invite a third friend into the conversation! This special episode was recorded in person in the Black Barn! We are together again in the Black Barn! Meet our friend and special guest Emily Graffius Find out what it's like behind the scenes of the podcast We answer ALL of Emily's questions (are they your questions, too?) Lisa-Jo and Christie's friendship and why we WON'T be breaking up or falling out Insights...
Feb 14, 2024•58 min
In today's episode, Lisa-Jo and Christie reflect on the emotional and creative journey of writing and releasing their upcoming books. They discuss the concept of impact, the pressures of going viral, and the deeper significance of friendship and service. Discussion of the process of writing and releasing a book Personal stories behind the books Emotional journey of sharing your work with the world Our cultural obsession with making an impact Reframing impact and success The impact of sacrificial...
Feb 07, 2024•52 min
We are back after a five-month hiatus, and we have so much to tell you. About rest. About work. About creativity and parenting teenagers and the very Big Milestones coming up for us this year. If you've been feeling overwhelmed and overcommitted, this conversation between two old friends is for you. The difference between stuffing vs savoring. What is more exhausting -- parenting toddlers vs parenting teens--and why. The thing we've hinted at is finally real and alive in the world. Christie gets...
Jan 31, 2024•41 min
Who needs rest from creating? In the beginning, God didn't just rest from work but He rested from creating. After burn out, Lisa-Jo and Christie wrap their arms around us and give us grace to pause. Whether you're entering a season of creation or needing a break from creating we can all relate. Sometimes a season calls for a stop. for a pause. for less. You might not need anything new but need to revisit and savor what you already have. "Maybe I don't need something new. Maybe what I need is alr...
Sep 06, 2023•58 min
This is a story about how to make ordinary life a little bit easier. LJ and Christie laugh, talk, and recommend equipment for ordinary living: shoes, headphones, jasmine!, and more. Also, we learn that Lisa-Jo has never heard the memorable 1980s advertising slogan: "Calgon, take me away!" Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with l...
Aug 30, 2023•47 min
What does it mean to pursue goodness? Have we slighted it? Let's stay rooted in our deep and worthy ordinary virtues even though they aren't on a typical list for new year's resolutions. "I'd really like to be like Ted Lasso ." Do you agree with Christie on this? Ted Lasso makes goodness and kindness appealing and powerful. * viewer discretion advised for R rated moments* True goodness fights for you, inspires you and makes you braver and bolder. Life isn't about us being good enough for God. Ch...
Aug 23, 2023•31 min
This is a story about a book Christie loved and Lisa-Jo did not. Actually, here are stories about quite a few books! Because these are the childhood favorites that helped make us the women we are. In this week's conversation, we discover just how much our favorite books reveal about our deepest selves and our relationships. Christie and Lisa-Jo trade memories and titles from The Secret Garden to Lord of the Rings and quite a few you've probably never heard of, let alone read! Listener invitation...
Aug 16, 2023•42 min
This is a story about painting a dining room nearly charcoal black. And the hundreds of hours it took. This is a story about how it turned a dining room into an everyday extravagance. This week Lisa-Jo and Christie remember the great farmhouse dining room painting saga of their first Thanksgiving in Pennsylvania and how it nearly ruined Christie and her husband's respective backs and arms and attitudes. But how it was more than paint. It was the kind of extravagance we get to give one another on...
Aug 09, 2023•34 min
If you're like us then you also associate summer with certain foods. And therefore with certain memories. These are the foods and memories that have shaped our summers for decades. We hope listening leaves you hungry. And also, makes you remember. The tastes of your favorite summers and the memories that you can bite into when you close your eyes and picture your plate. Listener invitation: Won't you tag us on Instagram and share YOUR favorite summer food memory with us? Just share a photo and t...
Aug 02, 2023•33 min
This is the story of our first critic. Once upon a time in a coffee shop in Chicago when Christie was a brand new English Literature professor a stranger asked her a question about reading and writing. He was pointed. He had opinions. He was her first critic. We've come a long way since then. And gathered many, many more reviews. And we've gotten better at receiving them. And learned a lot about leaving them. This is the story of what we have learned -- about reading as much as about writing. An...
Jul 26, 2023•42 min
This is the story of the labels people pin to us - to our bodies or our lives, or our families or our homes - and that we sometimes start to believe must be true. This is the story of starting to say that we will not be accepting those labels today, thank you very much. Today Christie and Lisa-Jo each share stories about labels they had unknowingly accepted about themselves since they were teenagers. As if they were a shameful secret. As if they should apologize for who they are. Do you know wha...
Jul 19, 2023•29 min
This is the story of the secret shame we all carry about our houses. And the one thing that can free you from it. This is a story about Christie's house Maplehurst being adrift in a sea of mud and construction and the pungent smell of mushroom farms nearby. And what Lisa-Jo's daughter said to change how Christie sees/smells her house. There is nothing like the power of seeing your home and your life through someone else's eyes. For better or for worse. This week Christie admits her own secret ho...
Jul 12, 2023•38 min
This is the story of a Jasmine-scented South African summer night. This is a story about disappointment in God, and this is a conversation about the dreams that do NOT come true. Christie and Lisa-Jo recorded this episode the week of Christie's twenty-second wedding anniversary. They marveled over the long years of their friendship, and all the dreams-come-true they have witnessed in each other's lives. But what about those dreams that don't come true? Can we trust a God who sometimes says NO? I...
Jul 05, 2023•29 min
We know friendship isn't always easy. Today we are identifying an issue we all face but as always, there's no prescription. Picking friendships back up after a hiatus isn't always easy. Not all of us live around family and we need friends to fill the gaps. Even some of us have family close by and guess what? We still need friends. You'll leave today feeling seen and full of grace for yourself to move forward with the friends you want to catch up with today! In Today's Conversation: Anyone been i...
Jun 28, 2023•29 min
What do you need today? Today we chat about reclaiming space in our souls. There's rest that can come from order in our homes or offices but also rest that can come from order in your soul. Lisa-Jo's husband gave her a simple response that helped her soul last week and we know it'll help your soul too! If you feel like you're going to work or your everyday hustle and going to die, we have an idea that will help. Remember, we can't get out of a hard thing in a week, if we've been in it for a year...
Jun 21, 2023•31 min
