Part 2 of the David Schwab interview about his life of high strangeness. If you thought Part 1 was amazing, you ain't heard nothin' yet. But first, The Jer has some new stories and insights to share with Paratopia. Many, in fact. (originally aired: 05.17.2012)
Feb 07, 2025•2 hr 1 min
What is the transition from waking into heart and living back in brain-focused society? How does Jeremy know he's right, as opposed to the people he critiques? Why do religious mystics stick with their religion when they know better? Does the personal self exist in the "godself" experience? This conversation between Tom Cheetham and Jeremy Vaeni gets into these topics and more. It's a lot, folks. It's a lot. You've been warned.
Feb 05, 2025•52 min•Ep. 118
Why does extreme fear occur during abduction events? We'll get in to that about halfway through the episode. What else is this livestream from yesteryear about? A lot. Give a listen. _________________ Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you c...
Feb 02, 2025•2 hr 1 min
Experiencer David Schwab goes down the list of truly odd, extremely interesting, occurrences in his life. This interview is so extensive that it's broken into 2 parts. There are a lot of well-articulated high strangeness experiences here to sink your mind into. If we put it all into one show your brain might snap. So get ready for part 1 of 2! (originally aired: 05.10.2012) Help support Our Undoing Radio. Donate today at: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay
Jan 31, 2025•1 hr 57 min
We begin with a question from Tom Cheetham: What does Jeremy think nature cultures at large have gotten right? Then, we move to Jeremy's question for listeners who are confused by what he means when he says there is nothing they can do to promote the death of self and to just sit with it. Poor Tom gets clobbered over the head with Jeremy venting his annoyance at the audience, even though he knows such confusion is inevitable. This sounds worse than it was, because for some reason Jeremy's audio ...
Jan 29, 2025•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 117
Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today at: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay
Jan 26, 2025•2 hr 1 min
“Piglet Shameful” was an active member of the Paratopia message boards and has been a guest on the show as well. When last we heard from her, she had called into the live show with an extraordinary encounter. Then she fell silent. Where she went and why she's back now is due to a startling discovery she made and is willing to share with us. As you will hear, she is bravery defined.
Jan 24, 2025•1 hr 38 min
This week's episode is like getting two shows in one. First, we take that hard right turn promised in last week's dialogue between Tom Cheetham and Jeremy Vaeni into... drones. Oh, yeah. Remember when those were a big mystery last month? What happened? And can we tie this nonsense to Carl Jung somehow? We shall see. Then, Jeremy flies solo, trying to be as precise as he can be in answering a listener's valid skepticism about him and his truth claims.
Jan 22, 2025•1 hr 18 min•Ep. 116
If we don't know what we are then can self-actualized beings actually speak with us at all? Or would it be like speaking to severely mentally ill people who believe they are sane? Here we go! Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today ...
Jan 19, 2025•1 hr 59 min
Tiokasin Ghosthorse joins Paratopia. We mean JOINS Paratopia. The next learning curve for all of us begins here. ''Let's de-colonize the aliens'' is a phrase Tiokasin used. This conversation is bookended with one of Jeff's ''alien'' experiences and Jer's exploration of the Hawaiian perspective on the ''supernatural,'' both of which speak to the need to not only look at mysterious phenomena differently, but also to change the nature of the one who looks. (originally aired: 04.26.2012)
Jan 17, 2025•2 hr 37 min
Why did Carl Jung choose everythingness over nothingness? Was he wrong to do it? In a conversation so hot even Jeremy's audio is... well... hot. Sorry about that--Jeremy Vaeni and Tom Cheetham use a key paragraph from Carl Jung's autobiography as the jumping off point to question whether Jung misunderstood emptiness and if that misunderstanding kept him from the ultimate realization he was seeking. And that's only the beginning! Want more Tom Cheetham? Visit: https://tomcheetham.substack.com/ Wa...
Jan 15, 2025•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 115
Steve, aka ''MandoSteve'' on the message board, joins us to talk about his bizarre encounter in the Appalachian Mountains that is a scene straight out of The Twilight Zone. We won't spoil it for you with more detail than that. This is a riveting story guaranteed to creep you out. Then Jeff shares his adventures in Buddhist meditation. It's not creepy; however, it's almost equally strange. But first, we make the most half-assed announcement about a mysterious new direction for the show you could ...
Jan 10, 2025•2 hr 22 min
Wrapping up the 3-parter on Tom Cheetham's latest Iboga journey, we learn what he's been doing with it. Did it cause ontological shock? Does he even believe he encountered a real entity? Let's find out! When you're done here, visit Tom on the net: https://tomcheetham.substack.com/ And please do consider helping keep this little project going by donating to Jeremy here: https://www.ko-fi.com/jayvay...
Jan 08, 2025•31 min•Ep. 114
This episode we talk about superfluous UFO and ghost hunting shows, UFO hoaxes, the Discovery Channel asking Jeremy to audition for a new UFO show, and waaaaay more. Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today at: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay...
Jan 05, 2025•1 hr 59 min
The man known as Hermitage on the Paratopia message board joins The Jeff & The Jer for another classic listener episode that raises some interesting new questions about how this strange intelligence interacts with experiencers who keep it on the periphery of their lives. We go down a written chronology of his family's and his experiences Joe-Gooch style, beginning with Hermitage's very first encounter as a child with... a toilet elf. (originally aired: 04.12.2012)
Jan 03, 2025•1 hr 53 min
Here it is, folks. We've finally arrived at Tom Cheetham's big ol' life-changing Iboga experience. This one's juicy. Or meaty. Depending on your taste. Let's hear it. Let's begin to dissect it. And then let's save some for part 3! And, hey! While we're doing things together, let's join Tom on his substack: https://tomcheetham.substack.com/ And then help Jeremy pay his bills: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay So much to do, so much to do!...
Jan 01, 2025•43 min•Ep. 113
Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today at: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay
Dec 29, 2024•1 hr 53 min
With no guest scheduled for this week, The Jeff & The Jer take a look to see who's on Skype and ambush them. Turns out the lucky victims are Roejen & Lobo of Project Archivist, who kindly put their own show on hold to do Paratopia! Topics range from the zombie apocalypse to the Makers Movement to secret technology to hand guns to 2012 prophesy to... man, where doesn't this one go? Well, mostly it doesn't go into the paranormal and ufology. Mostly. But it is arguably our most entertaining...
Dec 27, 2024•2 hr 33 min
Tom Cheetham has gone back to South America for more psychedelia and we will hear all about it... next episode. In this episode, we will set it up with a recap of all that has come before. If you've heard all that already, you may be tempted to skip this one. You could and be fine tuning in next week, but I urge you to give it a whirl as Tom reveal more, I believe vital, details to his previous experiences that we explore a bit. Done here? Sign up for Tom's substack. It's great stuff! https://to...
Dec 25, 2024•46 min•Ep. 112
Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today at: www.ko-fi.com.jayvay
Dec 22, 2024•2 hr
Nancy Birnes comes out swinging against the latest shady David Jacobs hypnosis tapes. Then she fields some tough questions from The Jer. Finally, she... takes over the show? Yes, that's right, Nancy Birnes confiscates the show and interviews The Jeff about his life as an experiencer. This is one heck of an interesting episode and it is an extended one. Our longest show yet, clocking in at just over 3 hours! (originally aired: 03.29.2012)
Dec 20, 2024•3 hr 3 min
Picking up exactly where they left off last episode, Tom Cheetham and Jeremy Vaeni dive into: What would a utopia of enlightened people look like? What’s important about contemplating time? Is there a role for the personal in experiencing Nothing being everything? What’s the difference between a person and an archetype? The marriage of the cosmic and the intimate. Explaining dual aspect monism. Why do we refine false paths of enlightenment given that they are false? No one cares about your dream...
Dec 18, 2024•29 min•Ep. 111
Ted Roe from NARCAP drops in on this week's Paratopia Live from long ago!
Dec 16, 2024•2 hr 13 min
Lakota activist Tiokasin Ghosthorse goes one on one with The Jer to talk about his people, his childhood, and the uncensored history of America. This one is all about exploring the differences in thought processes as reflected by language, which circles around to how we misperceive First Nations cultures, their sense of what “prophesy”means, and even revelations about Star Nations. This episode is dense with knowledge and wisdom. If you identify with Ghosthorse, you're going to find yourself com...
Dec 13, 2024•2 hr
Picking up the conversation where we left off, Tom Cheetham and Jeremy Vaeni delve into the following topics: —Do you switch archetypes when you go through spiritual changes? —Was Carl Jung interested in Truth or distractions? —The disconnect between scholars who only study these topics and their peers who personally engage with them. —Does it matter if a life-changing experience is real if you are changed by it nevertheless? —The unreality of Jane Roberts’s “Seth” character vs. the unreality of...
Dec 11, 2024•44 min•Ep. 110
Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today at: www.ko-fi.com.jayvay
Dec 08, 2024•2 hr 27 min
Director Philippe Mora joins Jeff & Jer to talk about his feature-length sendup of remote viewing, Continuity. Naturally, the conversation about RV takes a turn into other topics. Topics like the SS, Hilter, the Vatican, exorcism, UFOs, and Roswell. Philippe is famous for discovering historically important footage from the WWII era in the National Archive. But has he ever looked for Roswell documents? We'll find out what he knows. Then, in a somewhat sensitive afterchat, Jeff & Jer final...
Dec 06, 2024•2 hr 2 min
Carl Jung was one of the founders of modern psychology. The way he talked about the human psyche made it seem like a place populated by godly archetypal beings, and yet he wanted desperately to appeal to serious scientists. So how did science treat his findings? Why, by ignoring them as the blather of a crank, of course! We'll get into that and much more in this continuing conversation between Tom Cheetham and Jeremy Vaeni. Want more from Tom? Sign up for his substack and get more! https://tomch...
Dec 04, 2024•35 min•Ep. 109
An adorably nervous John Randall calls in about John Mack and the Zimbabwe UFO landing. Later, the Jeff & The Jer talk about drone hoaxes, falling out with people in ufology, and more! *** Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today...
Dec 01, 2024•2 hr 1 min
Jeff records sans Jeremy this week to answer some emails that have been mounting for a couple of months. Those listener questions force an almost melancholy reflection on his over 2 decades of looking into the UFO phenomenon and what might lay ahead. One question leads to Jeff reading the first chapter of his book, White Square, which has been an on-and-off again project for a long time now. With any luck, and some time this year, 2012 may see the publication of the book many have been asking ab...
Nov 29, 2024•2 hr 6 min