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There is no evidence linking any other person.
To her death.
That's bulls it. Where there's heaps of evidence linking other people to Eden's death, you people don't want to have an inquest because we actually will have evidence.
Stop the games.
Let's find out what happened to Eden on that night, and let's documents the truth.
That's Jason Westbrook, and as you can tell, both him and his wife Amanda are angry and annoyed. I'll get to why later in this episode, but I thought we might start this episode with some good news, and given that lots of people have been listening to the show for a long time, it's a bit of a reflection on the last twelve months, as this is most likely the last episode for this year. In the last episode, you heard Jackie Lamby's in passion plea in the Senate.
Few days after that, it was raised by another member in the Tasmanian Parliament. We'll get to that speech by Andrew Jenna shortly. First, I want to say thanks to anyone that's been with the show from the start, or maybe you've just joined us. I know that it might feel that we're no closer than we were when we started almost forty episodes ago. Your support of the podcast and of course Jason and Amanda's story has helped drive them to want more answers and also show them that
they have the support of the people. It doesn't seem like they've got the support of some Tasmanian institutions. On a side note, Our Little Edie has been voted by Apple Podcast in Australia and New Zealand as one of the best series podcasts for twenty twenty four.
Congratulations mate, that's why you brought it to the world and you deserve that. Well done. Thank you, thanks so much.
I think it's us so I think it's your story that you've allowed us to tell.
But at the same time, we did come out here and we said we're just going to put our parts on the table. Was going to be transparent as.
But you've brought this this touchy subject to mant and center of the country in the sense you know the reponse.
I don't know if anyone else to send the response from.
People on a weekly weekly people right to it.
A wide demographic too. It's not just one genre of persons it's coming from or yes, and the things that they're doing is just like super cue.
The one that I that I'm thinking about right now is the one you sent a couple of weeks back, which was the young couple that were heading to Tazzy on a weekend away.
I've never met them, didn't get to meet them, but they went to the park and paid their respect through Eden and in so put a little segment on their own YouTube channel and spoke of the how we actually.
Know this town quite well due to a podcast that we used to watch. I'll listened to was about a young girl that that died here, fifteen year old girl. Yeah, if you get the opportunity to listen to that podcast, because there's a bit of stuff that went went on there that's not quite right. And it's a beautiful little town, isn't it.
I just googled it.
It happened in February twenty fifteen, so next year'll be ten years since she passed away.
Wow. In the main street.
Yeah, the school bus was going past the next day and she's there in the main street.
And you can see by when they arrived and they're talking about the podcast and our little eating. It's a sort of a just a general conversation. It feels like, however, when they actually are at the park, there's a somber in their motion, in their language, in their bodies, because it's a little bit hard to believe when you're at the location.
It's a weird feeling to be here. So obviously there was a big tree here where her body was and they've knocked it down now memorial.
But it's right as you say, as they say in the podcast, it's right.
In the middle of down town. Yeah, so a school bus was going to school.
Yeah.
It was super nice, really nice that people are stopping and looking at Leedens Park or the Fishermen's Memorial Park and they're paying respects to Eden and obviously they're reading the names on the rocks of the fishermen. And you see this.
Day when we drive past, there's people always at that park paying respects to not only Even but to the Fisherman, Which that gives us a little bit of a good feeling, doesn't it.
We see lots of emails and well wishes from people right across the world lending support to Jason and Amanda and their family. Most of heartfelt. It's emails that want to say, don't give up, keep fighting. We're behind you, Jason. Amanda also told me about some stickers that someone has produced to help them search for the truth, and.
A little badge too. They just super cute and a couple from Swansea and they don't want any who are about it. They just you know, sort of be a fun way to get things out there. They know a graphic designer. They've come together.
We've ended up with about one hundred and fifty stickers sent to us by this lovely couple from Swansea, and so we've obviously put three on our vehicle. We put a post up that if anybody would like to support of the True three D, feel free and we'll get them to you. So we were inundated that day with people wanting them, and because they are in a state or they are out of state, some across the world, we said, oh, look, we're happy to put them in
a post and send them to you. So I go down to the post office and I have to buy envelopes and then I'm seeing the stamps and I'm thinking how many hours I've to about fifty envelopes I had to send out. And as I'm looking at the stamps, I saw the Christmas stamps for sixty five stamps, and I thought, oh, that's great. I'll just buy a sheet of Christmas stamps. Then it's Christmas and I'll stick the
sticker in. And the lady's saying to me, what are you doing with that, because I was asking by a packet of one hundred envelopes and I said, I'm actually going to send these stickers in the envelopes to people that are wanting them. And she says, well, they're only sixty five cents if they're a Christmas card and I said, ah, but i'll put them in a Christmas card. She said, well, it doesn't feel like a Christmas card, so it will be a dollar fifty per envelod. I said, look, actually,
I'm not going to send them from here. I'll buy the envelopes, but I'm going to go and buy Christmas cards and i'll do it myself and I'll make sure I don't send it from here. And the lady sort of said, yeah, okay, see you later. So I bought the twenty or forty sixty five cent stamps, went and bought ten cards packs, a couple of ten color, four ten card backs, put the fifty five stamps on, put the sticker in the card and wrote a little note
to each and everyone that wanted one cent. And last week we sent them out to people that we don't even know day and we wrote a little thing thanks for your kind words, your thoughts and your support or whatever was written on the card. I love them best, which is the word family twenty twenty four. And we're they're now being received. So we're getting these messages back from the people that have requested them, and they've got
them in their mailbox. They've not only got the stickers, they've got a Christmas card from us, which is something we normally can't doj No. It's been really a nice energy around the stickers, and we're getting people sending pictures of them putting them on their car.
These calls that I do with Jason and Amanda are for the podcast, but they're also a bit of a catch up to see what's been happening. And on this particular call, though, we're about to get to the audio you heard earlier when Jason was annoyed. Let's first get some more good news from the Westbrook family.
We've got to prove to build a house last week days. I am counting every dollar.
Mate, That's awesome. So when do you start building?
When it started? The concreteors that arrive in next week, doing our profiles and form work, and we're doing that over a couple of weekends. We'll have the slab pulled by mid January. We're both registered homeowner builders the courses, We've got our permits, we've got our insurances, and we're super proud of where we sit right now today. And this is going to be our little retirement home that a man and I will live for the rest of our jolly lives together.
You heard Jackie Lamby in the Senate in the last episode and her impassioned plea for the police and the coroner to release the autopsy photos and reopen an inquest into this case. A few days after that, in the Tasmanian Parliament, Andrew Jenner, who's the member for the Jackie Lamby Network in Lyone in Tasmania, tabled the petition that we've been running online. This is a transcript of mister Jenner in Parliament. These are his exact words, but not his voice.
I rise today to speak on the tragic death of Eden Westbrook in Saint Helen's in twenty fifteen. I stand to call for an independent public inquiry under the circumstances of Eden's death and the way in which the investorsation was handled. Despite their persistent efforts, they have been repeatedly denied access to key information, specifically the autopsy photos needed for an independent forensic expert to complete this review of
the case. There is nothing to prevent the coroner or Chief Magistrate from releasing the autopsy photos, yet, despite genuine reasons having been provided, the release of these photos has been refused. The family has raised serious legitimate concerns about the thoroughness of the investigation. The Westbrook family is asking for an independent inquest. This is not an unreasonable request.
If the current legislation prevents the Attorney General from directing the Coroner in appropriate circumstances to direct an inquest to be held, then it is entirely appropriate to consider a change in the law. I call on the Attorney General to reform the current Coroners Act nineteen ninety five. It is antiquated and not fit for purpose. The Act must minimize unnecessary traumata family members by making the coronial process easier and less adversarial.
Back at the start of November, Jason and Amanda had sent two letters to the Commissioner of Police in Tasmania, and as of Monday, the two of December, they had not yet heard back. They asked questions to the Commissioner about the rope and what and if it had been DNA tested. With no response in almost a month, they reached out to the Police Minister, and then the next day a letter arrives from the Assistant Commissioner of Police. It's this letter that frustrated Jason and Amanda, and.
I hope I don't interrupt myself because it does pissed me up a little bit when I read this, but we'll go.
Thank the best thing.
Westbook. I'm writing in response to your emails to Commissioner Adams on the fifth and the nineteenth of November twenty four and on the fourth of December twenty twenty four. The Missioner Adams referred your correspondence to me as I oversee the operational side of Tasmanian Police. I've considered your recent emails and past correspondence and recognized the toll Eden's death has had on your family and assure you inquiries have been made into all credible information that has been received.
It is important to note is the dance. I note the corner. Olivia mctaggett handed down her findings on the thirty to September twenty sixteen. Chief Magistrate Katherine Geesen joins the dance and considers this matter you raised on the fifth of August twenty twenty twenty and then on the first of April twenty twenty two, and gave reason you the reasons as to why the investigation would not be reopened.
This was again reiterated by the currents Court on the seventeenth of September twenty twenty four, where again they sprailed it all over their website. I again confirmed that Tasmanian Police is not in possession of any evidence that suggested Seden's death is any other than a suicide, and there is no evidence linking any other person to death. Now quickly, Jar, I just want to say, they really need to stop patronizing and condescending me with correspondence of the same narrative.
They've got to stop insulting our intelligence. We're not children, Jay, We're adults. Where I'm actually a grandfather, a father I'm fifty five. I'm not a child, and they need to stop treating me like I'm a dissatisfied, breathing parent. I'm not anymore. Mate. I'm obviously going to agree for the rest of my life. I'm actually a dad that's getting going to find the truth out what happened to his daughter on the night she went out, and I'm not
going to stop. And the last thing by them putting all this up and going back in the seventeenth Decetember twenty twenty four where it was reiterated by the coroner and put up on their website. They're doing this because they're saying this will restore the fate in the Tasmanian people. I'll tell you what day not restoring faith. It bactually chose poor Kate. Because what they're brawling and what they're putting is fault. Eden did not die on the seventeenth.
We know that she died on the eighteenth. Can't You can't rather stamp that. You've got to open up about it alone. You can't say Kate isn't a person of interest. You can't say all the people that Nae Kate was with Eden on the night aren't credible. There's too many The police obviously don't know how many people we know were with Kate and have God given us statements on that Kate was with Eden after midnight, and we also got the screenshots of Kate stating she was with Eden
until five am. She also at the vigil, she tells A man and I again that she was with Eden. She specifically tells me times and she was the first to see Eden. She went to the police house. She tells me things that whether it's true or false. She tells Eden's dad this, She approaches Bobby Lee, as you know, just days after. There's too much spotlight on Kate Mate. So for this rhetoric or this narrative to say there's no where is it again there is no evidence linking
any other person to her death? That's bullshit because where there's heaps of evidence linking other people to Eden's death. And the only way we're going to get to the truth Pasmanian Police and the Tasmanian Currner's office is if we have an inquest. You people don't want to have an inquest because we actually will have evidence that will
put someone to the death of Eden. So let's just stop the games and get a date, right, Let's get let's get Kate form of the interviewed, Let's find out what happened to Eden on that night, and let's document the truth because we're not going away.
Jane, I'm sorry.
From a bit even a bit passionate, but it was frustrating to get another narrative copy and pasted letter from another Tasmanian police officer. I couldn't do this files in that position.
If there's nothing to hide, Let's just stop the games, Jay, and give the forensic pathologist what he needs to finish his report so we can make our next steps to reopening this case or having an inquest into it.
At least, what are they afraid of? It's bigger than eed it this Jay, I believe there's many families that would like to see the autopsy photos that have been told.
Ny Amanda told me of a beautiful idea that she has and is trying to push through when it comes to children's deaths, especially when they're being investigated by either a coroner or police. The idea is to signify that these deaths should be treated with the utmost care and empathy.
Eating file should have been wrapped around with a ribbon stating that this is a child's case, and that with the ribbon wrapped around it, it states that it's never big questioned because the ribbon signifies how thorough a job would be done at the death of a child. And all my girls were ribbons in their hair and they all still do. So. To put a ribbon around a child's file, whether it's virtual or a real life ribbon, when we go in to get the coroner's a change and coroner.
We will, we will.
And we will be asking for that a virtual ribbon if it's on file on a virtual a computer, or a real life ribbon around the file of a child death affairs. You might say it and the coroner I might remind them that they did say that we could have the autopsy photos, the slide, the scrapings for everything. They documented that they wrote that to Channel nine firing colins,
and they didn't put it in. So for them to write it and then leave it absence, why are we having this discussion that we need to obtain it when they already said that we could have it, just didn't add it in the paperwork. It's a bit of a contradiction.
In their behavior, and if they think they can, maybe they decide to give it to us for Christmas, and they might want to hurt us.
It's not going to hurt us, Jake, because the man I are going to look at it.
We're actually going to hand it over to the professionals and the experts and they will tell us what it reads. So you're not hurting Jason and Amanda by giving it to us for Christmas or holding it back. You're hurting the people that need to know what happened to Eden on that night. And that's not just Jason and Amanda. That's Eden's siblings, and that's Eden's friends, Eden's family, and Eden's friends and now Dan's family of friends on the podcast.
All these people need to know what happened to Eden, and we all deserve to know. J and I assure you mate, we're not going away.
And there was a time here when we polarized Saint Helen's and in fact Tasmania with this subject. However, ten years down the track, nobody believes this child killed themselves but the police and the coroner. So what does that say about the police and the coroner's ethics conduct investigative processes, you know, when a commoner, when ordinary people logically say, now,
this is really somebody that got murdered. And now I get people saying, well, we never thought that she'd killed herself, Amanda. We never thought one of them would one of yours to do that. This is different things that are getting said. And in the last few weeks, I've had police in uniforms publicly come to me and shake my hand and thank me very much because their workplace is currently toxic.
As this is the last episode before Christmas, it doesn't feel like Jason and Amanda are getting anything before twenty twenty five. Christmas has become a time for reflection at a time with their now large, growing family with grandkids and partners. However, after almost ten years, there is still one chair not occupied this Christmas at the Westbrook house.
It's going to be a blast, truly, nothing's going to ruin our Christmas. This year. We've got Jack and Hunter flying in on the nineteenth. Jack can't sleep already, he's that excited because this is his first Christmas he gets to spend with the Westbrook family, where fortunate enough, Bobby, Lee and Jared have a beautiful mansion at the moment with an inground swimming pool that they've got a three
year lease on. So we've decided that's the appropriate place to have Christmas and we're going to have a Christmas full part with all the family. Sky Yeah, Skye and Donna already here and yeah, we're going to have a super super Christmas show.
It's stills and are excited and we're seeming up big time.
And we're just through Australians. Mate. But what we do, because we're a family, we all stop at the same supermarket, we use the same rewards points, and we put all that money together. So by Christmas it's actually up around the three to four hundred dollars and that pays for Christmas lunch for the family and everyone. Because we all shop at the same locations, that all adds up and we've all contributed to lunch and you can get quite the spread for three or four hundred dollars.
Jack, That is awesome.
Mery Christmas, guys, Yeah you too, mate, Merry Christmas.