Send us a text Navigating the Mess: White Women's Role in Politics and Motherhood Hosts Mandy Griffin and Katie Swalwell delve into a discussion about the pervasive and historical role white women have played in upholding white supremacy through politics and motherhood. They reflect on the disorienting state of current events, the importance of local action, and the influence of female political figures like Krisit Noem, Pam Bondi, and Joni Ernst. The episode primarily focuses on the book 'Mothe...
Jun 21, 2025•45 min
Send us a text Hosts Mandy Griffin and Katie Swalwell discuss the importance of white women recognizing their role in activism and learning from communities with long-standing vulnerabilities. They critique systemic issues and figures such as Pete Buttigieg's inadequate political responses, and dive into the problematic policies and actions of Trump's administration, focusing on the misguided efforts of officials in education and agriculture sectors. The episode concludes with a call to understa...
Mar 21, 2025•55 min
Send us a text In this episode, we grapple with balancing staying informed without falling into despair from constant news consumption. We then delve into the roles of Trump's nominated cabinet members such as Linda McMahon for Secretary of Education and Brooke Rollins for Secretary of Agriculture, scrutinizing their qualifications, histories, and the potential impacts of their appointments on education and agriculture policies in the U.S. The discussion covers issues like tariff implications, a...
Mar 21, 2025•19 min•Season 4Ep. 10
Send us a text Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem
Jan 30, 2025•23 min•Season 4Ep. 9
Send us a text Four years later...what did white women do this presidential election cycle? The unsurprising results are in.
Dec 06, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Season 4Ep. 8
Send us a text Trad wife run-down. Where does the movement come from, how has it evolved, does it have a political agenda, are we, as feminists, wrong to criticize it? Let's talk!
Sep 17, 2024•1 hr 18 min•Season 4Ep. 7
Send us a text Katy's Publishing Company!
Jul 01, 2024•48 min•Season 4Ep. 6
Send us a text Debbie Reese is a Nambé Pueblo scholar and educator. Dr. Reese founded American Indians in Children's Literature, which analyzes representations of Native and Indigenous peoples in children's literature. She co-edited a young adult adaptation of An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States with Jean Mendoza in 2019. American Indians In Children's Literature Blog...
May 09, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Season 4Ep. 5
Send us a text Interview with Leah Slick-Driscoll. Leah is a member of the Meskwaki Nation of Iowa (Sac and Fox Tribe of the Mississippi in Iowa) and is also Winnebago from Nebraska. She received her B.A.s in History and Social Studies Education from the University of Iowa in 2009. She received her M.A. in Social Studies Education from the University of Iowa in 2014. She is honored to teach 9-12th grade social studies at the Meskwaki Settlement School since 2009. She has 7 children and two grand...
Apr 20, 2024•57 min•Season 4Ep. 6
Send us a text Weighing in on the Katie Britt response to the SOTU address and how she ties in to weaponized white motherhood
Mar 29, 2024•43 min•Season 4Ep. 5
Send us a text While we all realize the latest Alabama ruling on IVF is a reproductive rights issue, we may not have thought through the deeper issues of intersectional feminism that run through this controversy. Today we're discussing how white women are showing up in very white-womany ways for IVF.
Mar 08, 2024•37 min•Season 4Ep. 3
Send us a text We're back!!! Sorry we disappeared for a moment there. But don't worry, we're still here, we're still friends and we're still down for exposing white women and how we enforce and support white supremacy. We're discussing the weaponization of motherhood this season and starting with a group of modern day Daughter's of the Confederacy: Mom's for Liberty. It sounds nice, but as we well know, white-woman-nice has some dark undertones. Welcome back guys!...
Feb 15, 2024•1 hr 31 min•Season 4Ep. 2
Send us a text Discussion of the article "It's not White Fragility, it's White Flammability" by Sun Yung Shin on Medium. Also mentions: "Is 'Imposter Syndrome' Just for White Women". Find out more about Sun Yung Shin on her website . There's a t-shirt I always see advertised to me on Instagram that says "Not fragile like a flower, fragile like a bomb" with a half-face portrait of RBG in the background. We white women love to highlight our power when it makes us look good and strong, but are we a...
Jan 16, 2023•27 min•Season 4Ep. 1
Send us a text Chat with Ruby Hamad about her best selling book, White Tears/Brown Scars: How White Feminism Betrays Women of Color. Ruby Hamad White Tears/Brown Scars
Jan 07, 2023•1 hr 11 min•Season 3Ep. 19
Send us a text Whew....last time we said we were back, but now we're really back. For sure. Probably. :)Join us for Part 2 of our discussion of Ruby Hamad's amazing book, White Tears/Brown Scars.
Dec 10, 2022•56 min•Season 3Ep. 18
Send us a text Season 3 Book Club: White Tears/Brown Scars - How White Feminism Betrays Women of Color, by Ruby Hamad. Part one of Hamad's book covers "The Setup" of the white/brown binary and the creation of the "damsel in distress" from the colonial era to current times. Listen in and follow the links below to buy a copy of the book. Hamad's in depth research and inspiring writing is not to be missed! Links: The Guardian Article Independent Book Store Link to buy Amazon Link to buy Barnes &...
Sep 02, 2022•55 min•Season 3Ep. 17
Send us a text The rise and fall of the Girl Boss
Jul 17, 2022•49 min•Season 3Ep. 16
Send us a text Katy tells us what we really want, what we really, really want...about girl power and what we can take away from pop culture activism.
Jul 03, 2022•34 min•Season 3Ep. 15
Send us a text Mini-rage session and lessons to hold on to.
Jun 26, 2022•9 min•Season 3Ep. 14
Send us a text Katy takes us through the history of the early 90s white feminist punk rockers known as the Riot Grrl Movement. Manifesto
May 28, 2022•1 hr•Season 3Ep. 14
Send us a text It was going to be a minisode, but honestly there is just too much! https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/01/31/is-ginni-thomas-a-threat-to-the-supreme-court https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/us/politics/trump-ginni-thomas-meeting.html https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/groundswell-rightwing-group-ginni-thomas/ https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/ginni-thomas-attended-stop-the-steal-rally https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/24/virginia-thomas-mark-mead...
May 09, 2022•1 hr 15 min•Season 3Ep. 13
Send us a text This history of the fight for equal pay & the gender pay gap - what it encompasses and what it leaves out.
Apr 23, 2022•1 hr 5 min•Season 3Ep. 12
Send us a text These women don't deserve much of our time, but the lesson that it always helps to be a white lady is reinforced in a hard core way with the stories of Anna Delvey and Elizabeth Holmes. Yet, somehow, it's seldom mentioned that their whiteness was integral to their fraud.
Apr 08, 2022•15 min•Season 3Ep. 11
Send us a text The ERA finally got through Congress, with surprising ease, in 1972. It was then quickly ratified by 30 states...and then, about to cross the threshold into an adopted amendment, it died. Why? Well, that's where Phyllis comes in.
Apr 01, 2022•1 hr 4 min•Season 3Ep. 10
Send us a text Kate Schatz is back to bring in some examples of positive white ladies deviating from the patriarchal, white supremacist norm and how we can learn from their lives and work. When we talked to Jessie Daniels a few episodes back we noted that many of the non-shitty white women we find in history happened to be queer women. We asked Kate to highlight a few of those women in this episode.
Mar 20, 2022•57 min•Season 3Ep. 9
Send us a text You're not going to be shocked, but you'll still be horrified, if you didn't know the passing of the 1964 Civil Rights Act had some of the same background shenanigans going on from the early suffrage days (we're looking at you Susan B). White women always watching out for white women, even when it's not about them... NYT Article: How Women Got in on the Civil Rights Act...
Mar 12, 2022•53 min•Season 3Ep. 8
Send us a text Everyone agrees that people shouldn't be discriminated against based on their sex, don't they? Maybe they do, maybe they don't, maybe they shouldn't?? Turns out it's a bit complicated as we start discussing the ERA!
Mar 07, 2022•1 hr 3 min•Season 3Ep. 7
Send us a text It's Women's History Month, but have you ever wondered what the history of WHM is itself? Safe bet: white women have something to do with it!
Mar 03, 2022•40 min
Send us a text Interview with Jessie Daniels, Professor and author of Nice White Ladies: The Truth About White Supremacy, Our Role in It, and How We Can Help Dismantle It. Jessie Daniels is a professor at Hunter College in New York. She is an internationally recognized expert on Internet manifestatons of racism. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, NPR, Forbes, and Newsweek. Her previous books, White Lies and Cyber Racism about far right extremist groups. Nice White Ladies changes focus,...
Feb 26, 2022•1 hr 7 min•Season 3Ep. 6
Send us a text Current day NOW controversies - Katy brings us up to date on the female fuckery happening in NOW the past several years. White liberal women have a long way to go in dismantling their own white supremacy.
Feb 18, 2022•56 min•Season 3Ep. 5
