Ryan Anderson - 10-19-23

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Welcome everyone to another edition of Orlando Magic Pod Squad. Dante Marcatelli, George Galate, he played twelve NBA seasons three right here in city beautiful and my notes. George said that he's he's retired. That he is. He was not in there, retired, fully retired. Ryan Anderson, Yeah, little joining us. You didn't play last year at all. No, no, no.

A lot of people look confused. You know, they thought they saw me out there.

I get I did.

I countless of times on the streets any city I go to, they think I played in their city.

I just I have a face. I think I have a face. You know, it's weird.

I texted him like twice last year, good game. I just texted him a good game.

Ry.

I think I just thumbs up that you know, yes, yeah, but we're just time goal twelve NBA seed.

Come on, think about touring.

So we're touring the facility.

Here we allowed to have been held out. We'll get into it. What a okay, yeah, we'll get into it later.

But what an incredible facility. What a They had to wait Me and Richard are touring around. They had to wait till we left to build something like this.

Of course, you know, guys brought the money in to allow it, you know, what to happen.

I was. I was in a hard hat at the Ways Center that was getting built and that I still that's still my favorite practice facility is still my favorite way room training area. I mean, my fondest memories in the NBA were here. You guys know that, no secret, but yeah, I mean, but this place is another level incredible spot.

But I don't even know.

Why I got into that. Why didn't we get into that?

Because you can't believe George and I, Oh, oh what I'm sorry? What I yeah? Yeah?

No, what I was going to say is what I was going to say is I came here. It was my second year in the NBA fifteen years ago.

Man, amazing, think about that.

You talked, you said, time for correct to me that's like wow, that really it really does put things in perspective. We we we sat with Tracy McGrady a while a couple of weeks ago, and it was the same thing where we're looking back.

He's still a name dropper as me. Oh Ti Mercury.

Anyway, when I golf with Penny Hart away then we said no, but we we were talking about things he had accomplished. And then you look back at the lines and it's like, wait, that was two thousand and two. Yeah, and that was twenty two years ago. And Dante and I still have the same positions that we had, and you would think we would have a little more, you know, ambition in life just said to do something else.

You guys just have you gotta just amp up the work ethic email. I just see I see you guys. You know, I wearing the same clothes you wore fifteen.

Years able to save and I got traded.

I had toolo, Right, that's your sad Polo.

That day was a sad day for us. Right. I have a doubt as the worst traded in the history that I will have the record on all the record, and that's no knock on Gustavo I own.

I think he was a grill into that whole time frame, and really will I wish for the for the if there's a huge Orlando Magic fan out there that's that's listening to this and cares at all about that time frame. In my world, I could talk for fifteen hours about that time frame because I thought for sure I was going to resign here. You know, I had my best season. Yeah, course in my career. At that point, we were successful.

I want to get into we'll get into what you're doing now and all that stuff. But when you what did you know about Orlando when you came here? Right?

Man?

You come here the team had just gone to the finals, and now bag yeah, you're you're coming down here to this team too.

I was on a golf course. I get a call that I'm I am getting traded, and it's a shocker, It's a gut punch. It's a crazy experience when you because no team is just going to bring you on, especially when they have some kind of scope of a plan for you and say, you know, you might just be here for one year or something. You know, and back then deals if you if you had a four year deal, most likely you were going to live out

But I've been in New Jersey. Party wasn't like I'm in yeah, you know what.

No, I've lived in so many different cities and I just learned to love them. I learned I really love Yeah. Jersey had its things, but I found things that I loved about. But then I get this trade and I'm kind of initial response, it's this panic mode and it's crazy. Like next call Vince Carter on my phone. And I was in the trade with Vince right right, And I remember I'm talking to him kind of in this like I have no idea what a trade like. He was always so thoughtful to me in that way.

I don't know why he kind.

Of always had this big brother Vince' mentality with me. Vince Carter, Yeah, the best guy, the best veteran I ever experienced. But he told me this is going to be a great thing for us, This is going to be a great thing for you, and.

This is great.

This is you know, a veteran, I think ten eleven years in the league at that point, telling you that definitely gave you some comfort. But to think, you know, then the next process of thought goes to, Wow, these guys just went to the finals, and I'm going on, I'm going to join this team and there's gonna be some high expectations. So man, I very quickly I fell

So what's that conversation like when you first come here with with say Otis Smith, who traded for you and for Vince, and obviously you know at the time Vince was the probably the main part of that trade. But what's that conversation between you and Otis and the rest and and Stan probably on what your role is going to be and how you're going to fit in because that, you know, as you stayed here longer, your role obviously got bigger and you turned into a fantastic player for us.

Yeah.

I mean my process here developed my whole career, and it was necessary for me. I think, you know, it's funny. I talked to March and Gore, Todd and JJ Reddick when I first came in, and in the two previous years, those guys were kind of the for a lack of better term, like the whipping boys, you know, kind of.

No doubt about that, right, that guys. It brought to stage. Yeah, yeah, But and I was that guy.

I came in and I took it. It was tough for me. I never experienced a coach like Stan. There's a specific moment where I'm standing maybe two inches off the free throw line corner, and Rashard's guarding me. Who you know, a veteran guy could do no wrong.

I'm the young guy.

I am two inches from He said, stand on the free throw line corner, and I go two inches from it, stand on the free throw line corner. I move over like I am standing on the free throw line corner. My foot wasn't enough on the his attention to detail for me, his moments just that where it was like, there's nothing I'm doing that's good enough. I thought he hated me. I thought I was holding the team back. What it was is he wanted to push me to

I'm with you. I'm with you, Well you did those three years. But that that nine to ten team we talk about, you know, obviously the O nine team went to the finals. That team was as good, if not better. I say, it's better, right I I you know, I die on that ledge, right, He's gonna say differently, but I think that's right, that's true.

You know, obviously thinks the nine team was better. I to this day think that the twenty ten team was better.

As you sweep through Atlanta and Charlotte in the first round, right going into Boston with home court advantage. Are you not thinking, here we go again.

Are these wounds healed yet? Because well not for me. I like I feel like I'm having a little flashback here.

Yeah, but I don't still that phenomenal year. But you're right, it does feel recent.

Yeah, I mean, it definitely is ingrained in my mind, especially sweeping those first two rounds, and the talent we had was it was incredible. The hype we had that season and then just maybe even overachieving that hype. I mean, without question, everybody thought we're gonna go back to the finals. But Boston was so good and they had the super team and they had their their guys.

You know that they weren't as good as us I saw on paper, maybe not, but they just had weapons that were so compelled against and and yeah, I mean that was a very odd experience to sweep round one and two and then get swept because we got.

Was four two, but four two, but we went down three three. It just felt like a sweet because of the way we got kicked.

That's that's how good mind me. It's so burned ingrained in mind.

See it's saying it hurts you so much it feels like we got swept.

Oh it it actually does because it I think just the of the expectation of just making it straight back to the finals and winning again. We man, that team was such a tight knit unit, and that was my favorite team I've ever played on. Absolutely the most talented, most best coached, most on the same page group. And I mean you look at that roster. We had guys

What do you remember about the city that year when the when we were making those runs, just the just the vibe around town and and everything about Orlando at that point.

I'm so biased to those years, and it's it's odd coming back here ever so often, you know, obviously getting traded and and you know, coming back to the city and downtown changed a lot. There's so much new construction here and the city itself has developed a ton. But while I was here, I just feel like it was it was so such a special time and the city, the city's always embraced the team and loved the team. But it's but I've never experienced anything like that, the

You know, I know we've joked I joked about not really joked about it, but I mean that was then you fast forward to twenty twelve. I mean you've kind of alluded to it already. Is that what made it so hard? You now you have a connection, and that's that's the tough thing about this business. In general, I would think right for anybody, there's attachment to a fan base, to a town. You have friends here, you have a routine, and you want to see it through, and we wanted you.

I don't know.

They had a different plan.

They wanted to build it a younger uh, you know, a younger twenties. I know, I know that's what That's what they told me, man, that's all they told me.

Oh we want to start, we don't.

And also there was a lot of question there were tons of questions whether or not I'd be able to perform at the same or better.

Level without Dwighthight interesting and so in a lot of way, twenty points a game in New Orleans, yeah, and in a lot of ways, I was like a chip on my shoulder.

Though It's like anyway, defensively, without question, Dwight was the greatest person to have your back. Ever, sure you know I'd be guarding these guys, Tim Duncan's, Kevin Garnett's, I'm not afraid to gard him because I know my boys got my back there. That was the greatest.

You were fearless defender.

When Dwight was, Yeah, I would fearless one of them just in the running for a time and now all always all defensive, always so, but but like that was the Dwight that was MVP. One of the best players in NBA, Dwight, and it was incredible night in the night out to see that guy be on the same court with that guy just every rebound, every block shot, just an absolute one of the first guys I was ever I'm gonna give this guy forty and twenty tonight, and they'd give him forty five and twenty five.

You know, It's like he would say that, he would tell you everybody gay that.

In the locker room sometimes there'd be like, I remember DeAndre Jordan. Everybody kind of had a comparison between DeAndre and Dwight, and DeAndre is younger, coming up, kind of finding his way in the league. And I don't want to make this story up to us, but from what I remember, DeAndre was, you know, getting in a getting kind of a Guinness swagger a little bit, having some success, and Dwight was like, I am I'm not gonna let this kid, you know.

Have his moment. You know, I'm going to show him not tonight. It's not gonna be it.

And that was like fifty and thirty, you know or whatever. It's like she's but he could do that, He could do that. That was never a world I could ever do. I could never Those are the special but most case, so few guys have been around that could do that. But but yeah, I mean all defense for me, so the fact that so the fact that Dwight's not wasn't named on the All the anniversary. He's a robbery. Man,

Who makes well that's over here, so he still aside. I just can't stand that side. You've got to clear this up for us. Ever since you left, George has taken and he's not afraid to. He takes credits for he takes medication.

He takes medication, depression, medica.

Oh my gosh, I still can't get over it.

Oh yeah, I I cry myself the slid of surgery thirty years ago, I still think. But anyway, but anyway, credit for your Most Improved Player Award in twenty twelve. For the politicking that he did. Yeah, I think you had something to do with it, with the year that you had, which he did, which he did, I Georgia credit.

But listen, I still say that that is one of the PR departments that's easily top two accomplishments. Not that we accomplished it, But what I'm saying is is that saying.

I accomplished what I did, and that's.

But listen, like, by what would you do you want? I could just give it will you send it to me? I still live at the same house. Okay, so, but would you ever thought that I thought you had a shot when we were, when we were doing what you know, sending out some emails and whatever else, I thought you had a shot. But to win it, by the it was not close. The voting was not close that year.

If you remember to me, I was. I don't know if I paid much attention to that stuff. You didn't. You didn't, which was good.

I feel like I was just so happy to have a great role on a great team, and I wanted to get another contract to continue to play.

At the time.

I don't know if at the time they were doing like seven year deals still or five year deal. I wanted to.

Sign whatever it was money.

I just want to be here. Yeah, right, Seriously, that's the craziest part about it. I was talking to my agent and literally the GM at the time. I was like this close to just saying, if you're not comfortable paying, I was going to take a severe pay cut, and I almost regret not doing that. I would have taken way less money to stick to stay.

But now I'm getting sad all over it.

No, no, no, I regret not making those phone calls or having discussions about how much I wanted to stay. You know, but.

Are you But I mean, look at the jacket you're wearing right now, Ryan, are you nor No? No, no, But like it, dude.

Once I left this city, my life changed dramatic, That's true.

So a lot of my.

Youth and my innocence and just sort of my being a young man.

Dissolved after I went away fast.

I went away quick, and so a lot of change, a lot of that, you know, for anybody that knows my story. And I'm happy talking about it, and we'll talk about the podcast, I'm sure later. I want to.

So when that something like that.

Happens, you your life dramatically changes into like the fight or flight mode and you have to go right into.

Okay, who am I now? And how deal with this?

So life changed a lot heading forward into I'm not saying that obviously the trade caused all of this stuff, but it's sure, sure man, My it's that just makes my time here even that much more special because it was like the roots of all of my innocence and like, you know, being a becoming a man happened here.

But but sorry, that was quite a bit of a segue. But go ahead. Do you think about that? Do you allow yourself time now to go back and reflect on that and that that was such a I mean, I can't even imagine, right, And we've talked about it about it not on air, right obviously, you know, and what you've been through is just is amazing what you've been able to overcome, it really is.

But you have also opened up to me with things as well, and that's what's most important. And talking about this this stuff that's a very stigma type topic. It's not something that it doesn't just come naturally to talk

Man.

There's tough things that happen in life, and it's something that's it's just sort of pushed aside, like we're all supposed to behave like these perfect people on Instagram and have these you know, watch these shows on TV that are reality shows, but they are not real life. And for me, I want to talk about it. I want to use my I think my greatest I was talking about this this morning with a buddy of mine. My

And you are. That's unbelievable. You are know that, but to know that, but let everybody know you're so you're going to come out with a part where you're going to do that. You've got a podcast coming out where you Is that what we can expect of these vulnerable conversations? Absolutely?

Yeah. The the intention of this. So this started buddy of mine, Brady Howe and I. He works with the Sons and he's very passionate about the mental health topic and he's trying to within that the organization sort of waken up or and even in the NBA he's talking with a bunch of other teams. I think I think that it's a greatly looked over aspect in the game right now.

I really wouldn't you. I mean, oh yeah for sure, because you look at.

This facility you guys have here. It's incredible. I mean I toured everything. There's not a place though where you know. I not like you have to have a therapist office, but there needs to be accessibility and these people need to be a part of the team, a part of the staff, introduced like family, like even you guys are with the players. This guy can't just be oh, here's there's so and so over there mandatory by Adam Silver just put in place, let's go. You could talk to

You get crossed that off your list?

Hold on, I come with a lot of notes and that that actually was on the top of my list.

So that's but there's not a lot of these covers the being had.

I think it's great, right, So we're going to have some guests on that are are you know, it's not just mental health. We want to talk about how to perform at the greatest level. And some of the as to do with mental health. Some of it is tips. You know, we have some awesome, awesome people that are doing stuff with the UFC and that have breathing techniques and you know, just things that you can really take home as a listener. And I think we'll at the end of the day. I want to do this to

When does it When does this debut? When can we expect the podcast?

I so we tentatively in the next like two months, we'll have it up, but I will I would love if you don't mind.

I'd love to like let you guys know, gosh, absolutely.

Maybe you can you listeners be awesome to know.

What's it called we do? We have a title called the Session.

So you didn't want to be like therapy session, but the session kind of like you know.

So you're cutting your chops as an interviewer, right, you get absolute drag information out of people. Absolutely a second career learn I mean, are you surprised. I'm surprised.

Men.

They're in another.

World also, and we've talked about this, yes, three of us. I would have played here, you know, retire, retired, had my the house in winter Park, were me and each other for lunch.

You know, if you still drive by that house, I know we you know never there.

You and I was planning on living in the little apartment above the garage.

I don't know been together.

Don ded Hagen and Dunkin Donuts we had the I don't want to throw them under the bus.

It was just I don't want to do so you got to make up a disguise, make Larry if you go to make Larry dunk donuts.

Yeah, yeah, it was anyway, we don't want to throw him under the butt on. It was the worst experience.

The smokes love him, though. Why don't you tell so you're dunk and Donuts guy. Why don't you let anybody know what your goat to drink is? Though? What's my go to? Your go to?

Oh?

Add dunkin Donut. I didn't enjoy it.

I didn't enjoy it.

Sweetweet hazel nut.

Large iced coffee with unsweet hazel nut. Yeah, comond milk.

It's not an almond milk. He's a purest half and half.

Yeah, and he wants to cut down the calories, like what is what are you doing?

My problem? That's the only Yeah. And the unsweet hazel up like I'm gonna get hazel out. I think it's going to be sweet. Yeah, But but there was I agree coffee. No, not to some extent, to some extent, but it was a little sweet as he liked it. There was, But we are in agreement. There is no better coffee.

Was that the little bottle in his pocket that he that he liked better than.

Wait a second, Yeah, I do you guys have Phil's coffee here that I don't know anything? That's the best Cold River ever had. Okay, but Duncan I think is far superior coffee as Starbucks.

Yes, right, I would agree. Yeah, Starbucks is not a sponsor ours, right, we would love to have Dunk and Daughters sponsored. I mean, I love it.

It's just that one location and we won't even say where it is.

Don't go to that one even, we won't even go to that one forty five minutes. But you mentioned the West coast. That's where you're at now. I don'tybody know where you're at that beach, Mosa Beach doing calib you pulled them back home.

You got a ambly love you guys, Marry I'm too killed when you guys come out. I loved it when you guys have come over.

We had so much fun, so much fun. We stay one mile from you when we go out there and great, thanks Wait a second, great? Was that is that for real? Right down the street? No, we're going this time this time? Work up?

Yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to intrude sometimes I don't want intrude.

Yeah, well I don't answer calls.

Right, I mean, can I tell you the amount of times I've talked in Houston.

We're in Houston at the time, though, that's why defense. Yeah, that's so if it would be weird if you were like, hey, we're right down.

The street, I'm I'm in Houston.

So I was in Houston, so I got I got released my last season, My contract got cut up into three three years when I was in Miami, and so I was thinking about standing a tax free state for those three years. And we had already had her place there, uh, you know, raise our two kids there now We're in Hermosa Beach with my beautiful wife and our two kids, and and I love it out there.

Grow Honestly, it's gonna say our boys all growns up, grows up in fashion. The wife wants another, wants three kids. Yeah, we can talk about that. Yeah, I wait on your guy on like live. Should we talk about it? We can if you want to.

I mean, it depends on how deep you want to get into the wheeze on this thing.

Yeah. Well, well maybe after because we got to share.

All right, that's true, that's your more quite all right? It is it is.

I have a boy and a girl. I love him so much. They're incredible. If I could wait a few more years to have another one, I think, without questioning one another one. But you know what, it's not up to me, is it right?

It is not up to you. Is anything up to us?

No?

No, none of it is.

I didn't ask Lanta if I could do this podcast. Yeah, I had to ask you. I even we wanted that. I had to ask Lanta did he even do this? That's how it goes to Ryan today. She said, what do you find that you've given up now as a dad that you didn't think you would be able to. But you now, I was always a huge like life. I always knew you with.

Club and you were a fuck just clubbing all the day. I would go to a bean like Techno, I'd go abuse, fly out to the Beza. Yeah, my wife at home, I'm going to a Beza again and club from from midnight to news the next day.

I can't believe they've done burning Man without you there. No, I don't know.

I know burning Man, Yeah, Coachella all the hard How the heart?

How does your How does your current podcast host get you to stay on any topic?

There is there any way that that occurs. It's during sessions. Let's just say this session is a much more serious word fair. But there's room lends itself so fun. There's gotta be you guys.

You lose your Yeah, your personality still has to come out.

The club days are over, Okay, you know they're They've been over for a long time. I was never a huge club guy, but I have had my I did go to a Pisa boys, did you did you? I had a good time too.

Is that where that tattoo is from?

Is that where the tattoos feel full?

Back?

Yeah?

The big eagle on your back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember seeing on Facebook that he had his retirement party and h yeah yeah, I remember three people in the veil room for this. Yeah, I remember that.

I wasn't in charge of the invite. I mean it's a surprise party, guy fair.

Wow, that's true surprise party where I saw a lot of other Magic Stafford's at the surprize party.

That's cool. It was really just everybody I cared about, right, like you guys except for you guys come out.

In thirtieth birthday, but it was in the mill right have quite made it?

No?

Well, I'm glad. It's so great to see. I could literally could do this for another day or two, but we've been going to be mindful of your time.

Do you think if Ryan, say, Ryan never left with the three of us, that would be the show, wouldn't it be? Yeah? I was gonna that would be It would be Ryan's show and then the two of us.

I don't want. I wanted to be the three of us equal partners and I want We've talked about this, do you want to buy it? I would have so much fun with you guys doing whatever, But I don't know if if people would want.

To see it.

But does that matter?

Who want to see it? What do I care if they want to see?

Right? You guys are still around us for all these years, and you got how many listeners seventy?

Yeah, seventy you're gonna have forty after this. Well you were still around by not doing that kind of stuff. Oh maybe right, But I'm in I would love to at any capacity. Now. Maybe there's still a world where.

It could happen. I think so I moved to Nashville, we could be a little closer and maybe creep over to.

He bought a town outside of Nashville. You bought a town, small town? Really, I'm naming it Anderson. Yeah, could you dante Ville?

Doing that? It's only Dante's name. This is so it's better.

Yeah, do you want but he asked Galante? Yeah, Galanteville. I don't want it.

Maybe I'd like dante Ville better, Dante Town.

I'll take it. I love that build.

You just to building a building.

Yeah, I'll build you like a host office, like a post It's like a family cemetery.

Cool. I don't name it all right, thanks fantastic. As long as you have a little as long as you have a little in law apartment for him. That's all he wants.

He wants just put a statue out front of a hand that just goes like this, do.

You watch NBA? Do your kids know that you played in the NBA? Like how that I was going to ask that touch with that, like how much of your NBA life are you still?

Yeah? Yeah, I for probably a good year or two after I was done playing. It was hard for me to watch because I, you know, all those guys are my buddies or uh yeah, it just is so fresh in my mind and kind of the way my career ended was each step of the way, nothing really has been that necessarily smooth and just the way you'd anticipate up your career going. So for me signing in Houston, just a lot changed very quickly over there within that regime.

But because there's a guy that you played with that's trying to force his way onto his fifth team here, Yeah I love to know, right, Yeah, very good player, very good player. But anyway, yeah, I had, but you did, You've had different stops along the way. Yeah, yeah, So for me, it yeah.

It was I kind of distanced myself a little bit away from basketball. But I it's been really fun just getting over my own things. And I mean, this is a part of like with talking about this session podcast, this is a part of my own journey too. I want to learn and grow and figure out the best ways for to live my life. So I'm not doing this podcast like an expert. The only thing I know is what I've experienced, and I think I can open up the platform for other people to talk as well.

Yeah, Frozen still holds up. I'm glad to hear that.

But it was the first time we watched it the other day. This is probably the longest lasting because you know, you watch movies with kids and it's like you'll give it a month watching the same thing. Right we're entering into two months. Yeah, with the Frozen silk Okay, the music. I think it's just the song.

Well, it could be. There's certain things you got to pull, like Teletubby's we had to pull the plug on court. There's certain shows you just don't allow in the house.

Well that was Lanta for Dante though, like she said to him, like you're a forty seven year old man.

Yeah, yeah, I don't want you watching enough already, like enough of the telest The last thing I'm gonna say, George, You've been doing this for forty two years. I've been doing it for forty one, right, covering this, cover this forty two years? No, forty two, I'm fifty. Would you say he's I don't know? You give those grays I created?

It was believable when you said, was I believable? Just look at George though, you no what's of Grail's creeping out there? How long have you guys really been doing this?

This was this will be my twenty ninth year, and this is twenty sixty six for Doc.

Wait, you know when somebody exaggerates like they really, they exaggerate way more than right.

That actually it's not that far. Good point. All the guys that have come through these doors and we've met them all, right, we had them all and this is a credit to you, Ryan. This is what we'll end with, and it is just that I think this game can change people.

I'm top twenty five, it can change that.

He is the best defensive player we've had to the history of just you. Are we going to Yeah, no general top life player anyway, No, no, no, no no. But as far as people that have obviously you had a great career here and and there may not be. You've got Dennis Scott, You've got Ryan Anderson, and who Rashard Lewis.

Are three point shooters, right, I mean he's right up there. Ryan on the floor is obsessed one of the best offensive rebounders we had.

Right.

But I'm talking people people that this game has not changed you, and everything that you've been through that you've overcome is a credit to you. And I know we've talked about that, but I write, would you not agree? It's very rare that this game, this game, this life doesn't change people, and he has.

A He's definitely definitely one of the ones that as he is who he is and that's why we love him, right, Yeah, that's what you guys.

Well, I'd say the same thing about you guys. You guys are real. I connect and I've connected with so many especially people within this organization, just even just seeing so many people I haven't seen in years, but it feels like I saw I've seen it, you know, been staying in touch with everybody here right for the most part. But I just appreciate this organization. I appreciate you guys.

And it's a fun time.

We close because it's it was a special time, but we It's good to be connected with real, genuine people. And I found that here and I always felt that home here and I still always do. And I'm and I'll crash at your guys's house some time. Yeah, they put me up at the Grand Bohemian, and I know I was a little offended. I didn't like Dante let me stay.

Well, I heard, I heard you had a sleep over it and then want me to call.

I wasn't invited.

I didn't even know what was happening.

But he didn't invite me to his house.

That's true. That's true. And I wasn't home. Clearly could have to know last night.

Hey, Lowe, you're right, I could have taught Yeah, you want to you want to spend the night.

No, it's too and he had he made got he got up and made waffles and pancakes this morning. I'm sorry, of course he does. Of course he did. It's great to see him, and I hope you come back more often.

Right, we're gonna have you in town more often.

I think this would.

I'd great to have you out any I'll sit down with you guys forever and talk. I loved you anytime. Anytime.

Well, best of luck with the podcast. We can't wait to follow it and we'll see you soon. Welcome, Welcome back guys, Ryan Anderson. That'll do it for this edition of Magic Pod Squad