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What High-Value Single Males Really Think | RAW Lifestyle Conversation w/ Don James

Nov 25, 20251 hr 12 min
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Episode description

On this episode , Mr. Mocha sits down with lifestyle single male Don James—a tall, attractive, highly sought-after, financially established, and unapologetically confident man navigating both the lifestyle and the vanilla world.

What starts as a conversation turns into a raw, hilarious, and brutally honest deep-dive into what it really means to be a high-value single male in the lifestyle. Mr. Mocha and Don James break down:

  • What truly makes a single male “high-value”

  • The differences between lifestyle vs. vanilla options for men

  • What attracts (and instantly turns off) a top-tier single male

  • Why certain couples succeed and others get overlooked

  • The truth about male behavior when no one’s watching

  • Real-time reactions as they review & critique an actual lifestyle profile

  • And the wild stories and confessions that slip out when two men forget they’re being recorded

This episode is funny, educational, brutally candid, and borderline offensive in the best possible way. If you ever wondered what men really say behind closed doors, this is your front-row seat—a true “fly on the wall” experience inside the male mind of the lifestyle.

⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode contains explicit language, adult themes, unfiltered male perspectives, and candid sexual discussion intended for mature audiences only. Listener discretion is strongly advised.

Transcript

Hello, and welcome to another episode of OLD Faces. I'm your host, Mr. Mocha, and I am chilling in the studio with my boy. You're Ron James. Don James. Don James. Don James again. All right. So Don James AKASKD. All right. I'm laughing already because I've known Don James for, you know, a long time and I just realized he treat me like shit. I just realized. Nah, my boy. Treated me like shit. Not at all.

Not at all. You ever be talking to your boy and then he matter of fact some shit to you, So he just a matter of fact this this female, that's fine. He's like, yo, have you? Have you messed with so and So what? This fine? Listen, this chick so fine. Had I fucked her, he didn't know him 'cause I'd have been trying to send her over to him.

You know what it is though, I know her beyond the image, so I can understand looking at all the videos and the pictures and shit being like man yo, 'cause I got homeboys that know of her and their fans and shit like that. But knowing her personally and knowing how she actually is in real life, it's like man, like not the past judgment, but she's kind of like a crumb. Like she cool, she cool, but it's like I. Want some of these cookie crumbs? I see what I could do.

But yeah, knowing, knowing them in in real life, it you don't realize who they are a lot of the time. So when I when I see her, I look at that and I'll be like, oh, that's theatrical. Yeah, Yeah, that's true. But I understand how good she looked because knowing that the shit is low key trash, I still go back. I still give it another chance because when I see her, I'll be like, you know what? Maybe she's earning some new shit. Maybe.

You know what she got her ass. You know, I got to give it a try now. I got to see what it's like. But. Yeah, yeah, we talked about, we talked about another, another female who we bought. So I, I've been there like, you know, fellas look at my shit, my, my, my Twitter and be like, oh shit, you fuck this chick, you fuck that chick. I'm like, yeah, yeah.

And and and I know the pussy was garbage and they just looking at the image and and right now what's happening is I'm fanboying on somebody who he he fucks, you know, whenever he wants to, and I'm just being judge mental that he hasn't, you know, he hasn't thrown me the alley. No, all right, It's also always on some random shit too.

So it's like, it's not like, I mean, this is one of the reasons why I look at her like kind of crummy because all right, one time or a few times she'll come over and her dude is the one that shoots for most of the time. So she'll come over and her, her kids and the dude will be in the car parked in the driveway. Yeah, and she'll, she'll come. Wow, that's strange. Flopping all crazy and shit like that. And then go kiss your family. Yeah, she'll still go back outside.

She got Dick spit on her shirt and everything. I'm like, yo, that's. Crazy wild bro. That's crazy wild work. So for me, it's like, Nah, you can't. Keep kissing the. Kids like, damn. Like, you're not even asking to go go to the bathroom. Yeah, You know, you don't want no mouthwash. You're not asking. For no, no, no. Paper towels. It's just like, yo, just straight up just as is like yo,

that's wow. Savage. That's Savage. So, you know, it's not like a situation where it's like, yo, I be here at this time or be like, she's been here since Wednesday. And several times we supposed to get up, but there's always some different shit that comes up. Yeah. So it's just like, oh, you know, oh, my mom's supposed to watch the kids. Oh, she didn't watch the kids. Oh, I'm asking to watch the kids

this weekend instead. So it's a whole bunch of stuff that goes with it that makes it real hard to be like, yo, let me put you down with her. Yeah, I got you. I got you. I mean, I'm still say treat me like shit, but I I appreciate, I appreciate. I appreciate it. So like look as, as every, you know, you, you will see cuz I've been looking for somebody who I can rock with on the podcast on a regular basis.

Also, the big thing is somebody who has experienced a lifestyle similar to me. I've got a lot of guys who I hang out with on the podcast, but there's very few guys who we have similar experiences. So it's hard for me to to to interact or debate with a guy about our experiences and, and things like that, because if you ain't experienced a lifestyle the way I did it, we like, it's like, what are we talking about?

So that's the fun thing about my man Don James, because we'll be having conversations and when he disagree, it's like, all right, his disagreements is based on his experiences or when we sitting there like, Yo, we are really on the same page on this, jumping right into it. There's a couple different things that that like I want to to hit on. So First things first, what's your experience with single women in the lifestyle? For the most part my experiences

with true single women are cool. There's one I got currently where she's a little on the annoying side, but say what? Why is she annoying? It's the one I sent you. I think yesterday or Wednesday. She's annoying because I I feel like. I hold on. I'm gonna pause you. I want y'all. I want y'all to know the shot he just took at me. I called him. I I said he treat me like shit because he don't put me on and 30 seconds later he lets me.

He was like, yeah, you remember when I tried to put you on to yesterday that you said no. You too busy for it? You see he. Was not. Yeah, I was. I was just in conversation. I was just in conversation, you know, reference point, but not cause a lot of it. I, I am aware that is my ego. It's my ego because I feel as though for our, our age gap and just, you know, it's levels, it's levels of everything. You know, age gap what you mean? All right, she's like 53.

I'm 39 where I live in the real world and I dance in the lifestyle. You feel me? So for me, it's just like yo, in in real life, if I'm, if I'm fucking with a 53 year old, she understands that there's an exchange where I I'm giving up pursuing or being with the youth, you know, and everything that comes with that or even close to my age and everything that comes with that for someone her age. So there has to be some type of balance, some give and take with that.

Where this one, she's expecting the same level of enthusiasm and treatment without any real extra effort being given that I would give someone 30 or even the chick that we talking about right now. And for me it's like, Nah, like why am I? Why am I going to do that? Like, for example, she she tries to paint the picture like she wants to be a sub, she wants to be a sub slut, but it's like you're being picky. So where is the sub aspect of

it? And if you want things the way you want it, like I tell her it's, it's no problem. Like you're entitled to that, but you need to pitch it the way that actually is where I feel like she's trying to live almost like a 50 Shades of Grey fantasy style.

Like, Oh yeah, this is a sub slut in this way, you know, seen in this type of media or you know, she used the term subspace before and it's like, yo, we not doing nothing that involves you going into a subspace Like this is what you asked for. You wanted to get tag team by two hung black dudes and you're getting tag team by two hung black dudes. There's no safe word or anything like that. Because in my mind, yes, subspace is like, yo, you, you

checked out. Yeah, we checking you out and there has to be some way to bring you back. So that's where, like I said, the safe word. You got some safe word, some type of sign, facial expression, hand gestures, something. It's none of that in this situation where it's just like, yo, no. It's that shit she saw on TV. Exactly where you you want to,

you want to get fucked out. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be a slut, but there's a difference between wanting to be a slut and a sub slut. At least for me, sub slut is all right. That's the place of submission. So if I want you to fuck him, then you want to fuck him. And in this situation, OK, I understand the subspace now, because now you're in a situation where you're, it may be not at your, your normal comfort zone, but you're still doing it.

And you know, if you're trying to be a good sub, you're doing it to the best of your ability. So now I understand, you know, you being in a subspace and having to come out of it and need to be coddled and cuddled and everything, you know, the aftercare. But in this situation, Nah, this is a situation for me where there's, there's regular chicks that's just like, yo, I want to, I want to get tag team.

All right, bet. And after it's all done, everybody is high fiving or everybody's just kicking it. It's no. She she ain't really trying to go on so space, she's trying to, she's got this fantasy. Like yo just tell me you got a fantasy. I told her she got a I I'd like. Yo, you got a kink fetish? I mean, not a kink fetish, a praise fetish where you want someone to praise you, you want to be sitting there told you're you're sexy and all this stuff. And once again, there's nothing

wrong with that. But for me, like if you are coming to me saying you want to be my sub, then that's almost a part of the reward where like it's not me praising you up and then hoping you served me correctly. It's you serving me correctly and then me praising you for that. Like she comes over, she's like, Oh yeah, I want to learn how to suck your Dick. But there's no inquiries about what techniques, you know what you want to do. I'm telling you what to do.

And you looking at me like, you know, Oh my God, you're giving me direction. Like bitch, if you're really training to suck my Dick, like you're not going to be touching me with slobber filled hands because your head is going to be hanging off the bed because we trying to get that shit in there. Like and that's just what it. Is yeah, so so I'm so now this this so this is remember, you

are on the cutting board. You're going to hear the conversations that that guys have unfiltered without you just a flying wall here. So this kind of conversations that we have on a regular basis, that is a thing that has been one of my pet peeve forever. So earlier on the lifestyle, as a pet peeve, a chick would come to me and be like, I want to be

your sub. I've never been turned on by a chick who comes up to me. I want to be your sub because that chick is going to sub for anybody that says yes, I want a woman who didn't have any plans of being my sub, but she submitted to who I am taking a woman into subspace. And I know you have because I remember, I, I know, I know this guy, he's taking a woman to a place where she was where you got to bring her back. Like she's kind of out.

She's in the zone subspace Is you telling me, hey, I trust you. I trust you that you're not going to put me in harm, in harm's way. I trust you that you're going, you've learned me well enough to push my limits, push my boundaries and bring me to a level of pleasure that I've never experienced. And I am completely giving myself over to you. Now that's a different place. That's if I say you say you want to learn how to suck Dick. OK, cool. I'm very particular about everything I am.

I have sensory issues like a motherfucker. So when I train a chick how to suck my Dick, it's going to be a whole lot of #1 you. Hey, don't touch me with your nasty ass hands, I have sensory issues. If you want to make my Dick all sloppy, fine. But clean all that shit up. Clean all you know. Touching my chest and shit yo this is nasty. You got, you got 2 inches, 3 inches of Dick in your mouth, Judy, I know a bunch of dudes who got 5 inch Dicks. You can train on with that attitude.

No, Like what are we doing here? How far are we going to push our limits and how much you relaxing like how many times you had a chick they go, oh, I want you to train me anally. OK, I will. But when she hits subspace, the level of relaxation that her body experiences is completely different than when you're not in subspace. That that's what the first time I understood what subspace was, was actually a chick who wanted me to train her ass. Like when she went into subspace.

The way her body relaxed for me, the way her she, the way she let me in the me watching nothing, paying attention to nothing but her body. The way it quivered, The way watching her fucking beads a sweat on their back and then watching her asshole let me in. Best thing I can say, and I remember at the end of that session, the way she looked at me because I wanted to put I started out on her stomach, went to her knees, went to her back and looking in her eyes and I she was mine. You know.

So when you say that, it's funny, most of these guys out here, quote UN quote Dom's have never taken a chick to Dom space like he it's a subspace, never really taken a subspace, so they don't even understand we're talking about. But when you've taken actually taken a woman there where you she requires that aftercare and then aftercare is not the same for every woman. If you have a sub long enough, you train her to what aftercare is. I am training you from the beginning to the end.

When Missus Mocha aftercare by the end compared to what aftercare was in the beginning was completely different with me because the level of trust we had. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's interesting when you say that this woman showed up with this fantasy. Oh, I want to do this. I want to do that. I want to do this. No, you don't. You just want to get get, you know, gangbang real. Quick, like I told her, she

wants a manager. You want somebody to sit there and supply you with quality dudes. BBC's and, you know, make sure that it's in a safe space, make sure everybody's good and clean and everything. And then you want people to praise you for it. And for me, it's like, Nah, I'm not going to do that because there are situations where, you know, there's women, you know, we just went to a party where, you know, the women had that and they're, they're earning the praise.

Trust me, they are, but it's not a requirement. They're they, it's because it's understanding that, yo, it's a mutual thing. They want to fuck us just as much as we want to fuck them. So even though, even if, you know, even with us praising them, they're also praising us as well, you know, so everybody's feeling good because

of everybody. And for me, it's a, it's a situation with her where it's not, it's like, no, man, you're where, where we're at. It should always be, at least for me from a place of gratitude because I'm doing all this work to put this shit together to make sure everybody's cool, to make sure everybody's straight and making sure it's people that you're, you're going to like as much as you like myself. And just the whole responsibility.

Like a lot of motherfuckers, they look at, you know, they want a sub and everything. But like I've been telling everybody a lot lately, you got to be what you want. So it's not just about what you want the sub to be for you. It's about what you got to be for that sub.

You know, the level of patience you got to have, the level of, you know, understanding, even with the aftercare, every, every aspect of it, it has to be very, you have to be very thoughtful, mindful, because you're not just in control of somebody's body, more importantly, in control of somebody's mind. So you want them, at least for me, I want them to have a great

experience. So even if her and I stop fooling around or fucking with each other, she's in she's for the streets, you know, like I want, I want her to be to go back out and dudes come across her and be like, yo, she is. Wow, you're welcome. Because the experience I gave her made her feel comfortable to the point where she can be like that or feel like she can be like that with whoever she feels

comfortable now. Yeah, and you know, it's interesting, like you, you, you always say this, you say you have one feet, 1 foot in the street and 1 foot in the lifestyle. So. Now I got both feet in the street and all so often I'll sit there and peep my head or stick a toe in the lifestyle. And so what's interesting is I remember like that that concept, you know, we go back to oftentimes talking to couples who are looking for quality single males, the type of guy

that you're looking for. In my opinion, when you're looking for those high quality single guys, they have those options. They very, very much have the option because they know this the same guy that you want to come in and woo your wife is constantly getting practice in the real world. So when they step into it, that practice in the real world makes that guy brings his a game. But I think a lot of couples don't have that expectation.

They they have this mindset that they don't have to bring their A to a game to a guy. Thank you, baby. And if, when you, when, when couples are looking for a quality guy, I think that's the thing, like, Hey, you have to understand that, that I'm not here because I have to be, you know, and this right here is a great example. Like you got to read this, this profile. This is like one of my favorite profiles to laugh at.

Like I, I laugh at this profile all the time because of the expectation that some people have where it's like the kind of guy that you're looking for is not the, the guy that you want. You have to give him that same respect that he gives you. You have to give him a certain level of energy, understanding that before I come and spend time with you and you know, your person. I'm here because I want to be, not because it's the only place I can be, you know?

So that is when you said, you know, hey, there's this lady. Because I remember looking at her profile, the one that she tried to put me on to, It's like I was like, I was kind of 5050 on it until you told me. Like, oh, no, she's cool. But you know it ain't nothing to jump off the window for. Yeah, she's she's coolish. Like she's cool.

I think for me is that like when you try to sell me on something and then you, it ends up being what it's not that kind of turns me off from the situation in general. So, you know, she's talking about and I'm good. Thank you. She's talking about, you know, what she wants and everything, but how her actions and what she talks about are completely different where it's just like, yo, maybe you need to take the time and figure it out exactly

what it is you want. Or in our, or in my case, you know, it's letting it be known you're, you owe me no exclusiveness. So you can go out and find what it is you're looking for. And this is what I'm, I'm willing to sell you. This is what I'm willing to give you. So if you're, if you want what I'm willing to give you, then you can come and we can, you

know, try to have a good time. But as far as coming in the situation and like, hey, I know like it's like playing basketball and someone saying, Hey, you know, I know we're playing basketball, but you know, it'd be dope if I have to dribble the ball and I can still move. Then go play football, go play a different sport, because that's not the rules here in basketball. Yeah, let me just travel. Yeah. Oh yeah. You know, I would really love to be able to travel, you know, in basketball.

OK, I'm, I'm sorry then fine, like minded people find people that don't mind a little travelling, you know. But where I'm at now, I'm I'm good. So what's the ideal situation for you within the lifestyle? Within the lifestyle, an ideal situation is a situation where where everyone's cool, you know, we meet and we're cool, but we're leading with sex. So we're leading with sex and then the friendship, if there is one that builds. You need to explain that. OK, I'm glad you said that.

Please explain that. For me, the lifestyle is a place to have casual sex without feeling being involved, hurt, whatever the case may be. It's supposed to be where everything is, as my therapist put it, hot, honest, open and transparent. So all right, we're, we're all consenting adults in a situation where we have specific sexual preferences or canks and we're helping each other fulfill

those. So if we're going in with the understanding of that, then to me that's the perfect situation where we're treating everybody humanely. There is no tier hierarchies. We understand that. We go, we're both animals. We're both animals that want to indulge in our animal instincts of wanting to fuck and we come together and hey, we enjoy having sex. That's going to be the inspiration for us getting along

because we enjoy having sex. Because if I meet somebody in the lifestyle and the sex is terrible, neither one of us are going to want to talk to each other. So why are we going to leave with friendship in the arena that's built for sex? That's good shit. Now continue. You said that that's what you wanted. So what do you want? A lifestyle. You said you want a relationship that leads with sex. You know, or yeah, situation that leads with sex and if it grows, however it grows from

that point is how it grows. But I want an organic situation, a perfect example of a situation on that's they're trying to start. Now there's a lifestyle couple that lives literally right around the corner from me. Like I can I walk past their house every time I walk my dog Trina, shout off the Trina. But they want like this whole hey, come out, hang out with us, Like, hey, maybe you and the husband can be friends and stuff like that.

And it's like, I don't know if I enjoy having sex with you yet. So why would I want to do that? Like we that's the only thing that's bringing us together. It's not like we met at AI don't know a cooking class. Oh, OK. We both know we, we like to cook or even if you meet somebody at a bar, OK, we both know we like to drink. We like being in these type of settings. So that's something we can do together. We're meeting for for sexual purposes.

What we have in common is that we're both sexually attracted to each other and we like the idea of having sex with each other. So why are we moving past that? Why is that not being completed for you're trying to go on and add other issue or add other aspects of it. Now, if you want to do that, because I understand that for a lot of people like the lifestyle is their social life, you know, and I get that and there's

nothing wrong with that. I'm just speaking for myself personally is that I don't I'm not looking for friends and the lifestyle Now, you know, I'm sitting here with Mr. Mocha and we've been friends for about 10 years. But that's because it started the way that I'm talking about where OK, hey, we do the little meet and greet, not even a meet and greet. I met them at their house and we talked in their garage for a good 10-15 minutes just to fill

each other out. And then after that, from that moment, it's like, OK, I enjoy being with Misses Mocha. She enjoy having sex with me. The friendship grows from there. OK, now we see each other again. Oh, we might talk for 5 minutes now. OK, we see each other again. Hey, you know whatever's going on, we're sitting now having a conversation. Oh, we actually have other stuff in common other than just sex now.

That's when the friendship starts growing because now we see that as people we connect, not just as sexual beings. Now there's cases where you might sit there and talk to somebody for 5-10 minutes and it's not a bad conversation, but you understand that oh, the only thing we really have in common is sex where that's the friendship.

I've had couples that I've known just as long as them where we look at each other as lifestyle friends, where we probably had a conversation out of let's say 10 years, maybe we talked for maybe 34 minutes out of 10 years of actual non sexual conversation. And most of it is just, hey, so how you been? How's life, you know, But the sex is, is to the point where that's not necessary. So my thing is the perfect situation, in short, is an organic situation.

But it's it starts off with why we're all here with sex. Yeah, I've always felt like the lifestyle is like a game of pickup basketball. We all came to the court, You're trying to pick a team and then somebody's like, hey, listen, before we play pick up basketball, we need to become best friends. What? I came here to play basketball. Now if we keep playing basketball and we realize that, yo, I like this person's energy

we have, that's different. But it's interesting the expectations that people have in the lifestyle, like I love, I love reading people's profiles. Reading profiles is the most, let me tell you something, the most entertaining thing in the lifestyle next to sex is reading people's profiles tracks me the

fuck up now and then. It's always the ones where the people like people don't have a realistic I think like people have on weird lenses like I I pulled up one of my favorite profiles of all time like I love this profile. This couple has hit me up multiple times and it cracks me up. I'm going to read this profile OK and if you ever listen to this profile I didn't say your name but please think what you want. Sexy hot wife for hung Bulls OK first we don't break this down

like we going to do that report. What is a bull to you? When you think of a person that's looking for a bull, what do you What kind of person do you think they're looking for? When I think of somebody looking for a bull, I think of someone looking for, I guess, an assertive person. An assertive, assertive person. I guess a leader in the bedroom, someone that's hung wound out and I guess one of the top tier

guys. OK so this couple says Sexy hot wife for hung bull Update We've decided to block profiles with no validation unless we FaceTime you and see you live. We love private parties to link up with people with similar interests, but we would rarely plan them. Not a fan of swing clubs? If you are, If you are contacting us just to ask for Album pro passwords, let us tell you that in all caps. It won't happen. We're tired of it. Act like a dolphin.

Also, if you don't fit our credentials, we won't respond to you. Now that's just the beginning. And to me, it's like why you got to start off so aggressively. Like that's, that's like, I understand everybody goes through their things, but it's like, I don't know, I just look at it. I try to look at myself in

situations. I always try to sit, sit there and evaluate myself to where if I'm in a scenario and I'm getting the same things all the time from multiple different directions, then I got to evaluate myself and think, maybe it's me. What it what is it about me that's attracting what I'm attracting? And coming off this aggressively isn't really going to stop you from attracting. What you're attracting is just going to sometimes throw off what you may really want.

OK, that was my first impression. If you want to bull a person who's assertive and somewhat dominant, you talking to me like I'm a bitch or you throwing out there that this is the type of person you are. To me that says arrogance. You are very, very arrogant to say this in your profile because First things first, if you met me, if we were in a club, you wouldn't grab a microphone and yell that out loud. All right, now let's continue. We are stag, stag and vixen couple.

We're husby. I can't read. Hubby loves to watch her having fun primarily and join in at times. We might be new to this website as a couple, but we're not new to the lifestyle. Wife is crazy about hung athletic BBC in Latin in ( 9 inches plus only. She is a we'll say fitness competitor. We're professionals sophisticated. It tells what race the the male is and the wife is a Caucasian woman. And we also welcome couples with enlarge and all caps similar

preferences parentheses. We love to make a small group with similar couples. We can all get together and host some wild parties with clean cut types dot dot dot. Now this is the qualifications for the males they're looking for. Males should be flirtatious, articulate, well dressed in parentheses. Good hygiene is a must. Respectful in order to have an opportunity with her. Excuse me, we're very laid back. We're very laid back couple. We travel often between blah

blah, blah and where we are now. We also like to videotape our encounters in parentheses. We won't show your face if you don't like that then and all cats we aren't interested in all. Keep it 100% continue it. She actually is very very bi curious and we would like FMF as our fantasy who's up for the task lol. By the way we won't accept your friend request if we haven't met before. Let's stop the BS. No one under 30. Did you get it?

We are not into soft swap. What she wants tall muscular guy, 6 foot plus #2 very good hygiene #3 dress well and smell good when you come to meet her. No shorts, no flip flops. Do not look like a boy. Be a man in all large caps, shaved as well trim face in private parts. Single males. If you're selected in all large letters, you must entertain. Period. Sound like a city girl right there.

All right, well, first thing I see that I would question or the main thing I see that I would question because this has always been a big issue with me. Almost the whole video thing.

So it's like they like to record video and like what I say to couples, it's like they're like, Oh yeah, we'll leave your your face out of it where it's like my face ain't what would make you money is my Dick. You know, I mean, not not to mention I got a whole bunch of recognizable tattoos, but even mine is that like there've been plenty of pornos where you don't see the dude's face or you don't care to see the dude's face. You just want to make sure that he's he's hung.

So with that being said, it's like, well, I get it. Well, I get a copy of the videos because a lot of couples, they'll sit there and say, oh, well, you know, it's just for our personal use and everything like that where we have, you know, family or whatever the case may be. As if I'm some type of lonely orphan in this world where I don't have anybody that could recognize me as well. Like for me, that's the level of trust.

I'm trusting you to sit there and keep your word about some private footage that involves me. So you got to be what you want. If you want that. You got to give me that same trust that I'm giving you. Because for me, I'm thinking like, if you don't trust me, why should I trust you? Because that's how you're leading. So that's the first thing. The second thing, this whole profile is oxymoron.

The moment they said they're laid back because there's nothing about this profile that says they're laid back. So many all capital sentences and and words where it's just what's what's laid back about that, you know, just, I don't know, There's so many demands. It's so many demands where it's just like, what, what are you offering? Like it? Because right now this is a situation where it seems like they're doing the guys a favor by allowing them to have sex with his wife.

And these pictures are old because I remember their profile. And I think, I think all lifestyle websites and I'm, I'm throwing this out there for anybody that may be running any of these sites. I think all lifestyle websites should have an expiration date for their pictures. I think that you should have to update your pictures at least every year, if not every six months, because you can look so much different in that amount of time. Three months.

Yeah. Well, I've seen, I've seen profiles that I've, this is probably like my third profile that I have on the site that we're on. And since my first profile over 10 years ago, I see profiles with the same pictures from that point. And I've seen these people in person. And it's like you do not look even remotely close to that anymore. That looks like it's like a biopic and based off a true story. You look like you're based off a true story you like.

You're based off of what you look like you used to look like. But you do. Not look like that anymore. But he's a biopic based off of. It's like, no, it's like, Oh yeah. It's like, no, it's not even a biopic, bro. That's based off a true story. Like, Oh yeah, you know, like extreme exaggeration at this point in time with how old some of these people pictures are. And I know this profile, I've seen it before because they've reached out to me before. And it's like, yo.

After reading this, I've, I've messaged them, they reached out to me, they've reached out to me 3 different times. And each time I said respectfully, we're not compatible because I'm reading this profile. Like let's look at this part. Like there's certain things, like there's things, there's so many red flags that stand out to me like right here. Wait, where's the one, the part that said don't be a boy, be a man, don't be a boy.

Like what are we doing? I feel like he's challenging, like you're challenging me now, like, you know. And then this right? This is my listen y'all can call me petty all you want but this number 5 is my favorite. This is crazy to me. Single males, if you're selected, if you're selected, you must entertain. Period. My thing is, you're a hot wife. You need single males. Why would I entertain like I? So you want me to pay to fuck your wife?

Like you're at my listen, if my wife wants to play, find a dude she want to play with. I have a space for her to play. And if not, I'm going to get the fucking hotel room. Unless she's a friend of yours like you, she can come to your house, you're safe, she's comfortable, boom. But what the like? It blows me away. Like what? When I see shit like that, I I I think in my head, OK, so I can do that for a 52 year old or I can do that for a 32 year old. I could do that.

I had the ability where I could do that for a 22 year old. I don't I don't normally go that low. Yeah, single a single woman to where I can do that and it's impressing her to where OK, this is going to lead to me continuously fucking her to where Hey, what? We were talking about Subs earlier where OK, I can make her a sub. I can make her a girlfriend, I can make her a fuck buddy. There's so many more, so many options available where in this situation, OK.

And I don't got nobody talking to me like bro, like the the language in this, the language in this profile to me is so crazy. It's nuts. It's crazy, It's nuts. Like look at the the ex male should be flirtatious, articulate, well dressed, good hygiene is a must, respectful in order to have an opportunity with her, you must be. That's the part right there. That's the killer. Cause all that what you want is what you want. You're entitled to want what you

want. I mean, they're entitled to have this whole profile, but as soon as it's like to have an opportunity because it's like, what, you motherfucker? Like. Like what an opportunity. With you like. What? What does that even mean? Like what? What is the opportunity I. Don't understand? Like for me it's like, alright, in that case, like yo, you gotta, I need to see something. I need to either see like pictures where she's sitting there.

One picture is she, she's down to her nose and the motherfucking balls is on her chin. And the next video, the next picture, the motherfucking shit is fucking 10 inches long or some shit. I need to see videos of her going crazy, like videos where it's just like, damn, I want a piece of that. Because if we're going by just looks and it's like, all right, even if we're sticking to let's leave the real world out of it, OK, I can look at that or I can go for somebody that's a lot

cooler. You asked me about single girls. I know single women. Even the 53 year old, OK, she makes this profile makes the 53 year old I'm talking about not seeing bad because hey, at least she's, you know, throwing it out there like, you know, she wants to submit and everything. It's easy. She just wants to come over and get Dick down by some hung black guys as opposed to this woman that wants to do that wants a man to come and do what her

husband should be doing. Your husband is supposed to be making you feel like that, Like we're we're supposed to be the cherry on top of the sundae they already have are supposed to have prepared for you. Yeah, now, now this is. So what's funny is this. So this is this is our profile. If you message our profile without pictures we will not respond. When we find a couple that we both compatible with, we would love to play. She isn't into girls so if you require that to play with us,

we're not the couple for you. We both play separate single guys or husbands with legit hall passes. Feel free to say hi if we don't respond, it's a polite way of saying we aren't interested. We are both workaholics so sometimes the response may be slow. He enjoys Single Ladies and hot wives. Feel free to reach out if you're interested in him. We are looking for secure, attractive height, weight, proportion to playmates, couples and singles.

If you have hang ups or insecurities, we are not for you. We have a drama free. We are a drama free couple so we are looking to meet drama free couples and singles again. If you contact us and you do not have pictures of both of you, please send clear pictures in your first e-mail. We're a full swap couple. Same room or separate room. We're very secure. Our fantasies surpasses way more than this page, so that being said, just ask. Like that's a very respectful

profile. It's a very respectful, very cordial, very cool profile. And where you look at that with open mind where it's just like, all right, because the other profile, I'm looking at that profile with judgment after reading it all day, you know, I'm looking at this. Are you worth? What you saying? Because if they had a cool profile, it's like cup half full, cup half empty. So y'all profile I'm looking at the cup half full where it's like all right let's look at the

pictures OK, they seem cool. My mind is going towards the positive in any scenario, any scenario that's the toss up anything I don't know for sure I'm assuming the best because of the way the profile is laid out. This profile I'm looking at it with judgement because it's so judge mental because it's so harsh, because it's so aggressive. So now instead of saying, oh, she got big titties, I'm, I'm looking at this area right here where, oh, look at that.

I wonder what that's going to look like when she takes her, her underwear off. You know, I'm looking at everything from a subjective standpoint because they're so subjective and they're once again, you got to be what you want. So. Standards that you're putting out there like like, and here's a crazy thing, like they've adjusted this process because before they said they're looking for a dominant male. You're not looking for a dominant male.

No, no fit, attractive, high level bull is going to fuck with this couple. Like I can't, I can't say no. But if you fuck with this couple after reading this profile that tells me what your options are like, I just can't like, and here's the problem. Like even like she is before you read this, if you if, if it was more of a reasonable profile, I'd look at that and go, hmm, I might do that now.

I'm like, based upon what you're asking for, bro, you can't ask me for Bentley prices for a Hyundai. You can't, you can't, like you can't do that. You just can't do that. So like, I'm like, yo, I don't understand what makes people write the stuff they write. And to me, like I could be wrong, but in my mind, I feel like this must this, this is a husband's way of making sure that the guys that they deal with is not something that's

going to threaten his ego. This is a way of calling in all actors, so all all dudes that aren't naturally like this in their their normal day-to-day life, they can come into the situation and act like this. And since they're only acting to the level that they expect, maybe it works out nice. You know, because that's what I see like a lot of a lot of lifestyles once like people I know people aren't how they are in a lifestyle in real life. A lot of people aren't just how

arrogant some people are. And it's like yo if you are like that in real life then golly I see why you run to the lifestyle so much because people in real life probably don't fuck with you like that. Because your options, your bro, like when I tell you, it blows me away. And that was why, you know, I like I had a conversation with my man before when me actually me and Dmitry were talking for

couples. It's not very difficult to find a guy that it's not difficult to find a high level guy if you are of moderate, if you have a great attitude, great personality, you're sexual, you understand the assignment, which is we're here to have fun. I'm here to make sure you have fun. You're here to make sure I have fun. And you, you look halfway decent and and halfway decent is in the eye of the beholder, so.

And personality can change that, like a personality, yo, it's been plenty of times where it's just like you, you there might be a woman of a couple where you look at her and be like, yo, you can probably do better, but it's like, yo, she dope. Yeah, she dope. Her personality is dope. Yeah, exactly. It's fun. The sex is fun where it's just like, all right, yeah, I'll, I'll take a 5 / 8 if the five has everything else and the

eight only is pretty. Yeah, and and and that's another thing that I think a lot of people don't realize there's a certain level of guy who we have a number system because like we both know a dime who is trash in bed like garbage. Garbage. Like you like yo, she looks so good and five minutes into fucking or like I'm not sure if you ever done it, but I've definitely faked it enough before you. Stop. Yeah, I've been like done a couple times.

Have you run to the bathroom? I gotta go to the bathroom. I gotta take a piss. Yeah. Or no. I'll be like, I'm so sorry. It's just so tight. I gotta stop. Nah, your pussy's trash. Trash can. Now, don't get me wrong, there are something that I'm not saying I ain't never been because I have been between some legs where the pussy good and I'm trying to hold keep from losing my shit, but I've definitely faked some nuts to get up out of there and never come back.

And she's you know, you know, I've never had a guy who never I've never I've never played with a guy who didn't keep pursuing me afterwards. Well, that's because you're playing with dudes. It's only fucking your image

because your pussy is garbage. Pussy garbage personality must be trash because even if the pussy is trash like yo like like I said, if the personality is dope and I want everybody to understand that yeah I talk about the regular life for real life and lifestyle, but the same rules I apply to lifestyle I apply to my real life too. The only, the only difference is that the lifestyle, it doesn't have any priority.

So it's just like, all right, it's not like, all right, I get a regular text message and I'm checking that because it's going through my phone. I'm not checking the website. I'm not checking the website. So I got time or I'm doing scrolling anyway. I might as well, you know, get this out. But once I connect with somebody, then I show them the same respect that I would show

anybody else. And that's why everything is so important to me. What I say is because once we do connect, my my goal is to make it a great experience for you. I'm not treating the wife, whether she's single, coming alone or whatever. I'm not treating anybody like,

oh, well, you're just lifestyle. So, you know, no, I'm treating you with the same respect I would treat anybody else because it's the understanding that, yeah, the lifestyle is just the arena for us to know where to look for where, what we want. And that is unconventional. Agreed upon sex without an emotional attachment. NSA.

Yeah, and and I also firmly, I, I will never understand, like I'm so respectful to the guys who are going to play with my wife because like you wouldn't talk like, I mean, I guess some guys would. But like, if, if I know that you're going to drive my Ferrari, I wouldn't talk to you crazy before I gave you keys to it. That's fair. Like there's nothing more

valuable than my wife. So if if I see you as someone who's worthy to play with my wife, like that's reflection on me. And the reflection on me is I take pride in knowing the level of guys that my wife played with. I take pride in going, OK, this dude is a reflection on my choices. And what standard did I set for my wife to like my wife's standards from the time I met her till now are completely

different. So that being said, if you hit that standard, I'm treating you with the ultimate respect. I'm, I'm, I'm welcoming me here with, with open arms. I'm hoping that I inspire you to have good energy because I'm going to tell you a husband, a husband can can, can cause his wife to get some bad Dick. Facts. A husband can definitely like your attitude. I'm already here. I'm a fucker anyways, but my mind is kind of over there. Like, who the fuck is this guy

talking to? Like I ain't coming back to this mother again. And now I'm in here giving out, you know, lackluster Dick because facts. This goofball says something stupid like don't, don't.

So yeah, yeah, it's. I don't understand it as a husband, you know, and, and you being somebody who, when you bring me into one of your situations, the level of respect that's that that you bring me into the, the way you, the alley, the way everything works, It's, it's a certain level like, because now I'm a representation of you and you're a representation of me. Like these husbands.

I think a lot of husbands out there do this thing where it makes them feel powerful or makes them feel like they have a bargaining chip in their wife. So, well, I can talk to you crazy or I can feel superior because I have the wife that you want to fuck. Like no. Those are the dudes that need therapy. You need to go to therapy and figure that shit out because this is supposed to be fun and it's like for me, it's like yo, it's supposed to be fun for everyone.

So why wouldn't I want to make? Why wouldn't I want to make sure the guy's having fun? Because if he's having fun, he's going to make sure that whatever girl I got involved, if is having fun too. And then that's going to allow me to have fun. Because I can feel comfortable knowing that I can be in the moment and not have to sit there and worry about somebody going left or going side or shit going sideways. Yep. So yeah, that that is definitely that.

That's something that, like I said, me and Dee had this whole conversation and we this is it's an ongoing conversation because, you know, couples are always looking for solid dudes and solid dudes are always looking for couples. But then you always have those guys in the middle who, in my opinion, they will kind of settle for anything. And you know, they will go in and I think you said be actors.

You know, you can say, Oh, well, we're looking for this kind of guy and that person going to show up and be who they think you want them to be like, Nah, I'm going to show up and be me and hope that I'm the I'm what you're looking for, you know? And if not, that's OK. If not, that's OK. Not everybody is supposed to match with everyone. It's just about making sure everyone is hot, honest, open

and transparent without ego. As crazy like you look at this, so we're looking at a different profile. Look at her, look at her shape, look at her bow, look at her body. Yeah, yeah. In comparison to the other one and this is a couple looking for fun and friendship. We speak another language and basic English. We are a couple a good and they they speak a second language so we're not going to judge them in

good active shape. We like parties, dancing, have fun with other like minded couples. We like to make friends in addition to sharing good sex, the nudism, the lake, the swinger parties and gatherings. We really like to play as a couple with other couples and have the best time. Like that's an example of an attractive woman, a husband who's got an attractive wife, great body and they are that is a couple who would attract my attention. Absolutely.

That would attract my attention and any like you just made a good point that I didn't notice before because I'm not as critical of the way she looks based upon that profile because they seem like fun people. So now it's like I'm looking at. Everything you like about her. Yeah. Looking at everything you like about her, because I mean, anybody can pass judgement on anybody because nobody's perfect. But it's either one side of the coin or the other because their profile is so friendly,

inviting. And The thing is, it doesn't even have to be necessarily inviting, just cordial, just just sane, just humane. You know, it's like, all right, they're, they're cool people. You just assume they're cool people. They just come over here, they have fun, and they just want what they want to do. Good feeling. Exactly. So yeah, you're looking at everything you like about her because of that. As opposed to the other profile where it's just like everything you see is just nitpicking.

At least for me, I'm nitpicking. Oh, yeah, That that wondering how old the pictures are. The other couple didn't even think about it. They're like just. She looks good. You're absolutely right. Like that's you, you see, it is crazy when you get different perspectives and you know, I know, you know, people will will give me a hard time for beating a beating a dead horse, but I'm constantly get talking to couples who are like, oh, I can never find the guy that I'm looking for.

I can never find the right kind of guy. Well, what are you doing? What does your profile say? How do you approach guys? What? What is your expectation? Are you being what the right kind of guy wants? Are you? Are you what the guy you want wants and and are you given an attempt to be that in any sort of balance, even if you understand, OK, I want a super in shape guy and I might not be super in shape. What else am I bringing to the

table? Because I mean, as a guy, I do that shit too, especially when I'm sitting there courting somebody real. I mean like our real life. So for example, I'm not going to go in with the same my state. I would if I'm courting someone my age as I would someone that's 25 because I understand like yo, like not only were are we in different places in life, so I can't expect certain things from

that person. And I know because of where I'm at in life, they should be expecting certain things for me. So it's like, all right, I'm not messing with, they're not messing with the young guy that understands their plight. Or, you know, might still be in shape for a 25 year old. Because no matter how good in shape you are at whatever age you are, you're never going to be as in good a shape unless you're a professional athlete or something.

But you take two people the same, the same physical type and different ages, the older ones always going to be in less shape. So it's just like it's understanding that OK, they may be able to get a better physical specimen, but I have a better mind off for them. I'm still a good looking guy and I'm I'm more financial financially set than someone that age. Just like it's understanding of like, OK, yeah, they can't go in on shit the way someone my age should be able to do.

Or they may not have the understanding of certain aspects or certain concepts of life, but they're going to look better than someone my age is going to look. They're still going to have the, you know, nice skin, everything's, you know, up, no surgeries necessary or anything. And that's the understanding of OK, this is this is how we approach this situation. Just like in this scenario, like, all right, you want this in shape guy hung all this stuff, top notch, top tier. Be cool.

Yeah. You because if if you want, if you want a top tier guy, that means a lot of other people want that guy too. So now you, you put yourself in the competition of, OK, why is this guy going to pick me over all the other suitors that want the same type of guy? Because they're not looking for you. We're not looking for you. We just we just coasting because

we know the world is our oyster. So if I'm looking for something like I want something at at the time, like yo, I'm feeling it's almost like food, like you know what, I can go for pasta today. You know what I want? I want somebody mid 20s. I want to mess with Latinas. You know what? I want a Bunny, you know, I want some chocolate, you know, I want an older woman now, you know, today they bring this whole they're they're more sexually advanced.

They know what they they doing, you know, so that's where I personally fall in as far as what I desire. But even still, it's just like, it's a broad, it's a broad thing. So it's just like, all right, yeah, there's top tier, there's low tier. But when you're talking about, Oh yeah, I want the the best Latina, I want the best Bunny, then I got to make sure that I'm coming, correct? I got to be the best version of

myself. So that way they feel as though they're they're getting the best too. Yep, because and it's interesting, like when you look at the difference in what they're looking for. So if they're looking for, OK, you're looking for a with them, you're looking for a fit black guy over 30 who's well hung and who's a quote UN quote man. All right, that's a lot. But the person you're looking for is going to be looking at

you. And I understand that for me, a big part of that was going to separate me from another guy. My age, height, weight, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah is going to be who I am as a person. My attitude, my energy, my confidence. A lot of these guys out there, you know, have bodies but no confidence. All right, You have guys who got money, but no confidence. You guys got guys got got experience, but but, but but a small Dick. So you're as you, you're looking

for like them. They're literally looking for 1% of the population. You want a man over 6 feet, You want a black man over 6 feet. You want a black man over 6 feet with a Dick that's that's 9 inches plus. You want a black man over 6 feet with a Dick that's 9 inches plus. Who is articulate? Who is fit? Who is like dress, dress, dress? Like why do you you don't think they I'm so is? Everybody not looking for that. Person exactly we're. Not you going to talk crazy. Yeah, exactly.

So it's just, you know, it's just like, what do you expect in honest, in all honesty, like I don't think they've like do they read their own profile and say, you know what, if I was who I'm looking for, I would come run into this profile like, yeah, this is exactly what I want to hear as a, you know, top tier hung over 6 foot over over 9 inches. Like yo stop looking at porn because even when you look at porn you see in the same guys and everything.

You see 100, 100 and 150 eleven different women and you see the same guys, the same 5 to 6 black guys, the same 4 to 5 white guys, the same two to three Latin guys and maybe the same one or two Asian guys. If you if you catching them in porn, you seeing the same dudes. It's the same thing in the lifestyle. You go to parties. It's like the the old Snoop Dogg song. Every other party we go I see the same bro. The *** is everywhere. The same dudes is at every

single party. You've seen last weekend, last weekend. You see, if I don't know you, if I don't know them, somebody I know knows them. And now we know each other and now, OK, that's somebody I'm going to see at the same parties. And it's been like that for a decade. It's been like I've been in a lifestyle since the Atlanta lifestyle since I was what, like 12 years now? 1213 years for 1213 years I've seen the same top tier high quality guys the whole at every party.

Like literally we went to a party last weekend. We so we, and this was funny about it. The the party like the the party hosts, like, oh, we got, we're going to have the, the the best guys in the land are going to be there. Walk in the party and all of us

know each other. We all know each other and it was funny is like at one point I'm standing there because everybody like I'm the shortest dude there every this dude 63 The the we got dudes who's 64. You know you 6463. 64636. 46366 like everybody got over 9 years Dick, everybody's in shape. That's a small group of dudes. And so I read a profile and

you're talking like that. So now all of a sudden I understand that the percentage of you finding me, OK, I can find you find the woman who's 50 plus, you know, in in halfway decent shape who is is kind of cute with a husband who's out of shape. For her age, and we got to add that disclaimer because it's like, yo, like I want to give

credit for her age. She looks like she probably, if those pictures are five years old that she may take care of herself for her age because there's a difference because it's like, oh, they look good and they look good for her age, You know, like, so I'm just being real. There's some 50 I've seen some 50 year olds, some 56 year old. I've seen one one that was pushing 60 before that, yo, she

looked good. Her body was crazy in general dot period, that's it. And then there's ones that's like, yo, there's something that's 30 and it's like, oh, she looks good for her age to be a 30 year old, like it's just what it is. But to go with what he was saying as far as a small selection of guys, look at it like this, when you create your profile and you're looking for this specific dude, think of it, you're talking to less than 10

guys. So out all these profiles on, you know, whatever lifestyle sites you on. When you're talking about the hung guys and that big, that long ass, you know, newspaper job inquiry, you are talking, whoa, let's be realistic. We're talking to six guys. Six guys are looking at your profile and we're thinking to ourselves, do we want to do we want to do this? Do we want to do we want to put up with this? That's what we're that's what at least what I'm thinking is this

something I want to put up with? Because the way is, is is put out for me. I don't see it going the way I want to go or it's going to be more work than necessary. Handling this is going to be more work than messing with a 27 year old or let's say a 39 year old. I'm 39. I'm messing with a 39 year old that has an understanding of, hey, I'm 39. Yeah. And a single a 30 year, 39 year old single woman. No and then how do you increase your value like as a a person in lifestyle?

First things first, if like, if you have the right attitude, if you're approachable, if you are fair, like don't ask any like my, my pet peeve is always I have all of these pictures and videos of myself on my profile. Don't send me a fucking message if I can't see your face, if I can't see your whole body, don't send me pictures of your wife like it's a fucking puzzle. All right? You got 37 pictures of her bent over with her butt cheeks spread over?

Like, OK, we get it. That's the one angle she likes. But you do realize when I see her in person, I'm going to see all of her. OK, Show me. I want to see her from her fucking throat to her kneecaps. Like, show me her whole torso. Because here's the thing. If I show up and you have a little bit of a belly, I've accepted that already. I'm a dude. Men are visual creatures. I see you. I like you. I'm going to reach out to you. And that's what I expect. All right?

Filters. Stop with the fucking filters. You do understand that if I show up and you're 15 years younger because of filters, that's a problem. If I show up and I got 4 inches less Dick, you're going to be offended, all right? It's a big deal. So here's the thing. I hear couples all the time. Well, the guy showed up and he wasn't as good as I expected.

Well, that's because he showed up and he's been fantasizing about fucking this 47 year old for the last three days and he show up and he's fucking a 55 year old because you use fucking filters. If I fantasize about fucking a 55 year old when I show up, I'm going to fuck the shit out of you. I'm going to give you everything I got. You want a person that's going to be honest with you, but then you start off by lying. It's not going to work it. It just does.

It doesn't work like that. Me as a person who's in the gym generally depend upon the time of year. My body's going to fluctuate about 8 to 9 lbs if I'm putting mass on. If I'm taking mass off, if you see my profile, you see pictures with me with more weight and picture with me less weight. And before I come to see you, I'm going to send you a picture of me at the state I'm at because I've had women who've seen me who saw me online when I

was heavier. And then I show up and I'm Wiener and they're like, oh, I thought you were a little heavier. And at my lightest? At my lightest. I'm 220 lbs at my smallest, so I understand. Now imagine what I feel like as a dude if I show up and you put a filter on there to make you look like you were 10 years younger. Or worse just sending old ass pictures. Like yo your pictures 8 years old, send an updated picture.

Oh, well, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, just send an updated picture because like, like Mr. Mocha said, I'm going to send you a, a more likely I'm going to send you a video of what I look like because I'm, I'm very hung. I'm a very hung bell. And a lot of times I'll get accusations for like, you know, Photoshop or angles because I hear a lot of horror stories about dudes saying, Oh yeah, I got 8 inches and it's just the angle. And then when they get to meet the couple, it's actually 5 1/2.

So I'll shoot you a video. I'll let that motherfucker swing. I'll let you know. Like, hey, I remember one time I was, I was done with an injury and there's a couple that I would see every so often. They were in town and I let them know, hey yo, I haven't been able to work out. So I got an extra £5 on me and everything. Just letting them know in

advance. So because I know they're expecting one thing and if I look slightly different, even slightly different than what I normally do, you deserve to know that. And as a single guy or as a human being, I want to know the same thing. I guess it all falls down to just treat people the way you want to be treated. When it comes down to it, if you want to be treated with respect, give respect. If you want to be treated with honesty, give honesty. Be honest, it's as simple as that.

Not much to it. I think a lot of people make things more complicated than they need to be because honestly, how social media has been constructed for us now, it's all about the image. So there's people that go to the lifestyle and they genuinely just want fun to blow off some steam, to have some kanky, you know, some kanky sex. And there's people that use this almost for popularity. You know, the, the, the lifestyle and you know, real life or vanilla life are all in one.

You know, I'm a comic book nerd, so it's almost on an example of Bruce Wayne is the mask and Batman is the actual person. You know, a lot of people, I feel like the lifestyle is actually who they are. So instead of treating it, you know, the way I feel like it should be treated, where it's just for fun, they're treating it almost like ATV high school where they're trying to make up for lost time. I don't know, some midlife crisis type shit. But yeah man, just treat people with respect.

Treat people the way you want to be treated, Be what you want to be or be what you want and everything will go right for you. I agree. I mean, and I think that, you know, on the other side of that is you wind up getting a whole lot when you do that, you get a

whole lot of a person. And you know, like I, I feel like I, I can say it from experience, you know, especially from Mrs. Mocha standpoint, we have a group of really intelligent, articulate, fit, you know, guys who, who we've known for years because they've always treated us the way they want to be treated. And it's been reciprocal all way

around the board. No, as always, man, I appreciate you coming to hang out with me. And you know, this is something that we going to be doing a regular basis. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm down. You know, I love being able to, you know, chop it up with you sitting there, talk about things that I guess oppressing to us in the lifestyle and hopefully be able to say some stuff that relate to people out there listening.

And you know, we going to, we got another, we got more coming up. It's definitely we like to spend a little bit of time helping everybody, the couples, the guys. And you know, next time we're going to have to have Don tell us about one of his favorite lifestyle experiences. And I only laugh because I thought I was going to mess that up again. So until next time, thank you for joining the cutting board on OLD FACES. I'm Mr. Mocha. This is my boy Don James. And until next time, goodbye

from OLD FACES. Peace out. Easily that shit just like a porn me swimming air and when rugged on a sea.

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