Hello and welcome to another episode of Old Faces. We're your host, Mr. And. Misses Mocha. You think you really went into that too fast? I like that song a lot. I mean I can put it back on for. You that's OK, you listen to it later. OK, OK, hello. I feel. Like that was the fastest like intro ever though. Yeah, that was pretty quick were. You trying to get it over? Try to try to get it done. Your DJ skills are declining. I work on it.
I work on it because. We haven't done the podcast in so long. Topic today something that's, you know, you're a professional man just doing whatever the fuck you want to do. So how do you get comfortable being yourself in the lifestyle you know? I mean, like you said, no, no shame in your lifestyle game. I think a lot of people get cliquey, like they get they get around other people and then it becomes cliquish, you know what
I mean? And they think like it's just like high school, like you feel like, Oh well, I'm friends with like the jocks and the cheerleaders. So I have to have this like certain persona. So I think other they let other lifestylers influence the way that they lifestyle or because Joe Blow said that this is the only way you can lifestyle, then that's what people do. They're like, oh, well, no, I mean, so and so told me that I think some people are open minded to doing it, but not
completely open. Like we're not going to completely explore our sexual fantasies. We're just going to do these ones that our friends are comfortable with and around. Because I really do think it comes down to like influence, like who you're around, who influences you. I definitely agree with that.
I mean, I think that's something that we've seen even when we first got the when we first got into the lifestyle together, I remember being on a lake and, you know, one group of people saying, hey, if you play with that group of people, we won't play with you because you know that that group of people, they're just, I mean, they just, they're just too promiscuous and we're not, you know, so. Cool, we're all out here fucking bro buddy. Yeah, but it was interesting.
How many people, how many people did you know, fall into that? Yeah, how many people would actually? But we've never let people dictate what we're going to do. I mean like you and I, or just you by yourself? I think who I think the people that you're around and the group that you're with often time influences the way you the way you lack lifestyle. So and I think that people get
stuck in their groups. So they may have gotten to a point where they want to do something different, but they don't want to. Tell the group that they're going to do branch out into BBC or like I mean there's people that go to splash mocha and they won't say that they're they're going to splash mocha that to other lifestyle people and that blows my fucking mind I. Mean remember, we at our parties, we had lots of people who. I know that, I'm just saying it initially.
It blows my mind and I think it's because we've always been. You have let me be completely wide open as far as certain things just don't touch your ass, right? Yeah, Yeah. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. So, so that being said, the question is this like what, what do you say to people because what do you say to people who are in a group? And I understand it because we've had the, the conversation before. Humans are, we're social
creatures. So if we have a group of people who are, are our friends, we are concerned about what they think and what they feel about the things that we do. You know, we see it all the, all of the time. We're within the lifestyle. You level up or you change, you adjust. You know, so people who are going from saw swappers to full swapping, but they have a so they're around a circle of people who are only saw swappers. They keep a secret from those
people for so long. Again, I think it's just because people don't accept it just like it's not really like super acceptable and like regular. I don't I don't even want to say regular, but swinger parties, like if you're by mail, that's like to taboo. So I think that's where some people just need to branch off and find their taboo friends because I got all kinds of fucked up. Well, I don't want to say fucked up.
You know I don't want. It all kinds of taboo fantasies that, you know, my friend may not like this or may not like that, but if they're my friend, then they know that I'm going to do what I want to do. But some people, Oh well, I started with my friend. Sorry guys, my microphone is being stupid. I started with, you know, my friend, this friend or whatever, and we kind of evolved out of that. So I couldn't be friends with that person anymore because they didn't like what I did, which is
silly. But again, it's just like back-to-back to high school shit. And it's something that happens often. Unfortunate lifestyle. I mean, we yeah.
I mean, we've heard our friends, we've heard our own friends talk about different people are like, Oh, well, you know, we don't, you know, we don't like playing with them because they play with these people or because, you know, they play this way or, and it's, it's always blowing my mind that you will get into a, you will get into the lifestyle, which is already something that's outside of the societal norms, and then you will let people around you. Dictate what it's like, what's
OK and what's not OK for you. It's your fucking private part. Do you think are your vagina or you know, your ass or whatever. You do what you want to do with those things. Just like nobody controls the thoughts that you have in your head. I mean shit, if I told everybody every thought I had in my head, it would probably be a scary time. No, they wouldn't be surprised.
They know that you're a fucking perv, you know, But I mean, it's the though, I think the whole point of the lifestyle is to be what society believes to be sexual deviants, you know? So like I said, I don't, I don't want to. I wouldn't want to be in a lifestyle where I'm worried about people outside of the lifestyle judging me. And then you get into the lifestyle and you're worried about people inside the lifestyle judging you. But. It happens every day.
Every day. There's, there's plenty of groups and plenty of cliques and whatever. And I feel like we've just become a part of all of them. But everybody just kind of knows what we are, what, what we do.
But there's, I'm sorry, there's also, you know, the people that have said to us like at parties, like, Oh, I can't fuck you after Mr. Moko, you know, I can't go after that or whatever, or white guys that won't play with me because they think that I just fucked Mandingo Dicks and they're for some reason that's bothers them, which is fine. That's not, I mean, I'm not going to force anyone to fuck me.
But if I'm telling you I like you and I want to fuck you, then what should it matter about so and so's Dick from six years ago? You know, hopefully she's went back to where she's supposed to go at that point or there's a problem. Yeah. So I mean, just like, you know, fisting isn't my thing. We're just gonna go to extremes here. Fisting isn't my thing. But if that's your fucking thing, do it. Yeah. Fucking get fisted all day long. Yeah, you know.
I mean, there I definitely think having a space to having a space and a lifestyle to be comfortable with yourself. Yeah. And just keep it in mind, like I was speaking to our friends last week to to people who are outside the lifestyle. What we do is already is extremely wild. Even that even soft swapping is
crazy to, to people. You know, you'll see people who think that how many people have we met who are vanilla and they don't know where their lifestyle and they're talking and they tell us about this one time when they had a wild trip to Vegas where they made out with another girl. It's like, oh, oh shit. That's like that movie Meet the Millers, where they they take him to the tent and they're remember the the guy like ear fucks. Him and he's like that's. So fucking hot.
Yeah, but again, like what? You may be Wilder than us 'cause Mr. Mocha and I like have hard nosed and like things that we won't do. But again, that's not we. We still acceptable. I mean, we're not gonna say, oh, we're not gonna play with you. I mean, to me it's as simple as these are my boundaries. As long as you respect those, then I'm comfortable with who you are and what you are.
Just like I had to tell someone at a party that you know, just because somebody's bi doesn't mean they're automatically going to come fuck you or try to fuck you. No, you may be a hot dude, but there's you walk into a gym, there might be a million bad guys in there. So all those guys are automatically trying to fuck you. No, they're absolute fucking lutely. Not yeah, Yeah, that's
incredibly. Yeah, so, you know, you don't want to think that, you know, think outside the box just because that person is a sexual sadist, likes to legs pain or I'm going to extremes here and they're running completely extreme. But so and so likes to get pegged by their girlfriend or whatever the case may be. That doesn't mean that they're coming into a party with a fucking strap on on and they're going to fuck everyone there.
It's not going to happen to you. That old Eddie Murphy's kids say boy, look mighty good in them jeans. Come on over here and let me fucking ass. Yeah, No, I mean, I, I definitely think, you know, for for us, and I think that's the thing, what we consider extreme and with the next person considered extreme is completely different. There are some people who consider extreme simply having intercourse with someone else's mate. Like that's wild.
Oh my God, I can't believe you do that, you know. So I think once you step into the lifestyle, I think that having a, an open minded understanding that you have, you have it two ways. Either a, the people who are around you can be honest and say, these are the things that we're into, but we respect your boundaries, or they can just fucking lie to you. Because that's usually what happens is, you know, the same group of people who you've known
for the last five years. You don't know that they're into some other stuff. The only thing that means is that you, they view you as so close minded that they're not comfortable telling you what they're into. So they just hide it from you. Like they hide the fact that there's a lifestyle from their parents, right. You know, so I think that's, that's really just your only choice once you get into the lifestyle.
Yeah. Like you think that, you know, as people evolve, if you, if you know people who've been really in a lifestyle for multiple years and they're in the exact same place doing exact same things that they were doing when you first met them, that means they're just not telling you. More than likely, they're just not telling you. Well, I mean also too, I think there's like etiquette in certain places, like there's certain things that just aren't
accepted in certain places. If you're just that like AII don't know if if you're at a there, there are just certain things. If you were at a, what are those things called? The furry thing that we were talking. About Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like anybody can go into there and I'm sure none of those people give a fuck, which are if you just came regular there, they're living their best life doing their own thing.
But I feel like sometimes, and I'm not knock knocking, just like swinger couple parties, but there are some like let's say like hotel events, hotel takeovers, stuff like that, that things aren't accepted there or somebody might side eye you or like give you a dirty look because you did something that was not just swinging at a party. I mean swinging, just couple swapping or soft swapping or you
know, stuff like that. I mean, there those are things that people do behind closed doors, but I just don't think that's something you should be ashamed of. Yeah. I don't. I think you should just be able to say or do what you want to do. I mean, like, do you know many people or I can't say how many people, but there are several times that I get side eyes from gangbangs. I like gangbangs. I don't care if you like a gangbang, I'm not going to make you jump it.
Sorry, my phone just went off. Yeah. Are we still basically, you know, like I would get as you know, side eye from people because I like multiple men at a time. But I I really do. And I've said it like 1000 times, group things are my thing. I do like. Yeah, you've also not really giving a shit, which is, which is I think 1 to think the coolest things about Mrs. Mocha is that throughout the years I've seen her tell, I've seen her tell women that she was into, oh, I want to get a
gangbang. I want to do she'll say all of this wall shit and these women will either give her the side eye or tell her, Oh my God, I would never do that. That right there is crazy. That's too wild for me. And then six months later, you know, they're here in the basement with her sharing 4 Dicks, you know, which is, you know, credit to Misses Mocha for not allowing somebody to, to, to say something, you know, her say, oh, I like this and someone
go, that's too wild. And she doesn't go, oh, I'm just joking. Or she doesn't back off. She just, she continues to be who she is. That is because that that opens up that opens up the that that gives other people that space to say, OK, it is OK, you know, and then also, but. Who's to say again, like not to be on a soapbox today, but who's to say it's not OK? Like who's telling you that it's not OK? Is your husband telling you it's not OK? Is your wife telling you not? Is it?
Is it just your rules and your dynamics? Like that's fine, but like I said, even from the beginning, Mr. Mocha got me because he started off with fantasies in our bedroom. We were fucking each other, but it was talking through fantasies in our bedroom. And I can say we've pretty much, we haven't went through all of them, but there's been a good amount of fantasies that we've talked about while we're fucking each other that we've actually done, you know, like we've ended up later.
I mean, some of them taking years. Like even I know on our last episode that Mister Mocha deleted that we just talked about, you know, like we've kind of evolved ourselves. Like I even during like my downtime told Mr. Mocha like I'll be a little vulnerable on here. But I told him that I didn't feel it because I was sick. I didn't feel like I could sexually satisfy him anymore and that maybe he should just find a girlfriend, which I never in our whole relationship ever thought
I would tell him. Like maybe that's what he needs. But I mean, I thought maybe he needed a girlfriend because I didn't like to. I didn't like the fact that I couldn't sexually satisfy him. So I wanted him to have someone that at that moment could sexually satisfy him. And for me it was. I think for me, it's always, it's always exciting to see her push her boundaries.
That's what I've always liked. Because you know, from my standpoint, me, I've said this before, when Missus Moke and I first got together, I always felt like I wanted her to experience everything that I'd experienced just because I had, I had been single longer than Mr. Mocha had been single between our marriages. And I, you know, had the opportunity at a time to experience a lot of stuff. And I always said, I want you to experience everything that I
experienced. So her boundaries, you know, she always levels up, you know, we're constantly leveling up. And then for me that just for her to say, Hey, I would like for you to consider doing this. It was exciting for me because it was her pushing her own boundaries. But I mean, I think during that time though, too, we pushed a lot of boundaries. And Mr. Malka, I can tell you at one point in time didn't really believe me.
I think we had to have a few conversations about it before he was like, OK, I'm going to. Because his thing was is I know you're sick. I don't, you know, I don't want you to do that stuff. I don't want you to be uncomfortable. But my thing was, is like for years, because he had, he was always very fair in our relationship. And I feel like there were some years that I was not as fair to him as he was to me because of insecurities and whatever else. And I, I felt at that moment, I
wanted to be fair to him. It was pushing my boundaries, yes. But I, I wanted him to be as happy as I've been for years. And he's always happy, don't get me wrong. But there were, I feel like there were always some like walls and some not. What? What would you say? Not walls. No, there's definitely walls. But here's the thing, it's for me, it was always about and it
is about leading from the front. I think that one of the things that a lot of people do the the person and the lifestyle in a relationship who does the most pushing oftentime is not willing to give what they're asking for. So from my standpoint, there's a lot of things with Mrs. Mocha where it was just not understanding, OK, Even when we first, as we broke through different barriers, there was a time when she was OK, I'm not comfortable you kissing somebody. But then I never. Said.
That yeah, let's. Give a better example. Let me know you. There was a time. There was definitely time. Absolutely not. I would not accept that. Oh, there, absolutely. I will not accept that. My wife has amnesia sometimes early enough, early enough, early in our relationship, it
made her uncomfortable. But once she realized that it didn't mean that it was different, she was OK with it because in her mind, at first, I think it was, you know, let's say something for us. Now I can be delusional, which he. Usually is he's going to have dementia before me. Yeah, we've discovered that. But, but on this, on this, I, I on this one, I will say early in our relationship, there were a lot of things that Mrs. Mocha
was challenged with. But as she crossed through different boundaries and I think for her, it was always understanding. OK, that does not mean that you feel this way about someone else. And then it got to the point where with us, our relationship was so strong, it was, I don't think she was concerned with, you know, any physical act. Yeah, I mean, even down to, like I said, more recently when we've evolved a little further into
things. I my like, biggest issue with being sick was not actually like being sick. It was not being able to sexually satisfy Mr. Moko, because that's always. We've always lifestyled, we've always, even if we weren't playing, we were always doing something in the lifestyle. So I had to like re accustom myself to beat vanilla, which just so everyone knows I'm gonna give that a 2 out of 10 and I do.
Not fucking recommend it. I can handle like 2% of my life or 10% of my life being vanilla but just 24/7 was not the move. But anyways, I I just, I wanted to push my own boundaries because out I want him to be just as happy as I, I always AM. And on top of that, like everyone, everyone knows I'm a little selfish when it comes to Dick. But. And I was definitely losing my shit quite a few times. And I needed Mr. Mocha to go out and get some pussy so he could deal with me being a psychopath
for a little bit. I can't say I was a psychopath. I was just sad. No, no, it's not a cute look, miss. Smoke is never a psychopath. I, I, I will say that like throughout our relationship, her when she thinks she's being Moody or angry, like she's like a A2 on a Richter scale. You know, every once in a while she'll get to about a three, but she, I mean, she's never never bad. She'll get kind of quiet when she's. Quiet is never good for me. If I'm quiet, that's an issue. Every.
And not even just for Mr. Mocha, like just in regular life. If I'm not talking then I'm probably need to go to the hospital. But I'll tell you what, now that she's feeling better, she's fucking like a machine. I mean, she's been giving me some. I mean, she's trying to make up for lost time. I'm done. But back to the subject, I am trying to make up for a lost time. Well, I appreciate it. I'm not complaining. I don't take that. I'm taking all the pussy I can get. But we go back, we're
digressing. We, we push our own boundaries all the time. It's up to you in your relationship if you want to push your boundaries or if you share your business or whatever you do. But there's always, there's something out there for everybody. There's something or something I can assure you that you don't always want to be a soft swapper. You stop at soft swapping because your routine or because one side of the relationship isn't comfortable, which is great for you if that's good for
your dynamic. But I can assure you there's people out there that have different fetishes. They just don't even know shit. I didn't really know half my fetishes till we got on fucking Twitter and I was like, yeah, I really thought I was a fucking freak and I was not. But I also think that there's, there's don't allow, don't let people stifle your your growth in the lifestyle. So and don't let them push you. Don't let anybody push you, you know, to do something before you're ready.
You know, you move at your own pace. But more than anything, don't be stifled by the fear that, hey, my circle is going to look down on me for this. Because that is a, that is a very, very, very common thing. And unfortunately, we've been around people where these friends over here are into some other shit. And this other group of friends, who they are, their friends have no idea they're into that shit. And this person is over here saying, yeah, you know something?
I can't believe that they're into fucking gangbangs and all of this. Wow shit. You letting your guy, your wife get fucked by, you know, multiple guys. Like then they have no idea they're insulting the shit out of the couple who standing 1 foot away from them because they don't know they do that so that that's also a reason for us as lifestyles to be fucking responsible about the shit that comes out of our mouths. You know, it's OK to say that I'm not into it, but don't be,
we have to be careful. And, and I, I know that I have definitely been guilty of doing it. And my loving wife over the years, you know, she's, she's tamed my, my tongue and helped me learn to be more aware. And also, even if you listen to our podcast from the very beginning to now, you will see our evolution, You know, you'll see that, you know, we've pushed our boundaries when we first got into lifestyle, like we were not doing any like no condoms, like
fuck that, we're not doing that. You know, of course, even now that we, we, we believe in testing before we do it. We don't just, you know, we're not Cowboys about it, you know, but you know, we, we've evolved in different ways. So if you listen to the very beginning and listen to our evolution, you'll see that, you know, we've come to a place where we don't say what we, we, we're careful about discouraging
people. And we can say this because, you know, Mrs. Mocha has never really been, she's not too bad about. But I've definitely been guilty of it. I've been guilty of opening my mouth and OK, talking about an aspect of the lifestyle that I don't participate in, but talking down on that. And then later on learning that I did that right in front of somebody who was into something that I had spoken down on.
But I think that's where you like got to talk about like there's lifestyle, like swinger stuff and then there's like kinks and fetishes. I think that's two different categories, and. But lifestyle, all of that is in the lifestyle. So that and what you were saying earlier is basically that, you know, your circle is telling you
not to do something. But just like for us, I mean, we've, we always find another circle, not saying like give up your friends, like, but we have several different circles and we know which ones mesh and which ones don't. And we just don't integrate those people, you know, but, and, and we tell them, but we're super honest with our friends.
Like, Oh no, this, this is just not something, this is not a party you're going to want to go to or you're not going to want to come to this because you don't like seeing your wife get fucked by, you know, five of their dudes or you're not going to want to come to this because you're not into like interracial stuff or whatever. And I'm just giving examples of
us in general. There are plenty of other things or you know, like I know one of our friends, the first time he had any type of cuck holding experience and he was not getting cut, but that the couple he went and met did. Yeah, he wasn't expecting that and he was super. I can't say he was judgy. He was shocked. Oh he was judgy as fuck. Yeah, and I just was like, that's like what they do. But that, you know, I don't know. Like I said, there's he was.
I don't understand how a man can blah blah like bro bro bro that's that's what they're into. Right, that's theirs. That's their thing. You know, that's what they're into because you know, that's it's the levels to it. You know, I don't understand how, because he was, I don't understand how a man can can, you know, let his woman feminize
him and blah, blah, blah. And then I'm like bro, you do realize that there are people who aren't in the lifestyle will look at you in the same light because you are fucking somebody's wife in front of him, you know? So you're judging the guy for allowing you to fuck his wife while she humiliates him. But there's a huge group of people who would literally judge you for being there doing it. Yep, and they will judge you equally just like they're judging him. So you're.
Or just like someone may not like him because he's a tall BBC. Yeah like they all when you're not playing with my wife or you're not playing you know there's always put the shoe on the other foot or thing just randomly freaking went off. We're not sure. Freaking. Yeah, that was me. Did you touch? Something, yeah. I didn't have a Pluto man. I'm so dead. OK, so we're back on. If you guys couldn't hear us for
a second. Oops. Anyway, so Mr. Mocha was trying to RIP my dress up the whole drive home but the outside of my pussy was like super tender because I had gotten pummeled the night before and I got waxed that morning so. My what's the policy if somebody else makes your pussy sore? I I totally fucked you the the night after. If somebody else makes your pussy sore, what does that have to do with this guy? It was the outside. It wasn't the inside of my pussy. That's because somebody else was
fucking like. I had fucking leprosy on the outside of my. Vagina. No, you didn't. You look sunburned. So red that I'm not sure you've ever seen leprosy, honey. But no making stuff. Yeah, leprosy is a bad word to be talking about New Year, Vagina. So we're gonna go with you. Look like you had a sunburned Kitty. OK. We'll see. From all of the grinding that you were doing. No, someone I think had just shaved and when I was writing them it was like a little
scruffy. Oh, you had the sandpaper? Yeah. I don't know how. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. You didn't care when you were watching. It looked good. You have me a help. I saw like you didn't care why it was happening because you were talking real nasty. What did? I say all kind of nasty shit. What did I say? Fuck this bloody pussy. I didn't. Say that. Fuck it harder. Give me that big cock. Yeah, all kind of shit. I heard you. I was like. Oh, I did tell someone that I
loved their cock. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I love your big cock. Shove it in there, big Dick. And the, the, the lady who was next to her was like, Oh my God, I can't believe she can take it like that. She was very impressed at your Dick receiving skills. Sometimes you got to take a big Dick. Yeah, she's like, you can take it from every angle. Yeah, I I mean, that's not true. I have one angle I still can't do. But look like you're taking it from a lot of angles. I didn't take it from the one
angle. I can't take it. From well, I mean you took it from about 87 other angles. That's OK, I like to be flexible. Yeah, you look like you definitely had a good time. Yeah, so we almost had an accident on the way home because Mr. Mocha was drunk and he was trying, he was trying to touch my pussy. And we literally. Were home. I was only trying to touch your pussy. I didn't touch your steering wheel. I didn't touch the pedals. Were 11 minutes from our home, so it was a long.
I mean, you're driving slow. I always drive slow. Well, so I think we're more like 40 minutes away from the house. No it we it took us 11 minutes and then Mr. Mocha passed out for like 3.5 seconds then we pulled in the driveway, then he walked in the house and then was awaiting for me in the bed naked anyways but. Did you take advantage of the penis? No, I fell asleep. I'm lying. I did. Well, that's what you call asleep. I hope you fall asleep again tonight.
I will be going to regular sleep tonight. Oh good, I need to go to bed. No, no, I know I like the code. I get it, regular sleep. Goodbye. Sleep. OK, go to bed. That's new code word. So if you're here, Miss Mocha, say she's going to sleep. No, no. That makes you had air codes. No, that's Mr. Mocha 'cause he'll be like oh I'm so tired I need a nap. That's AKA let's go fat, yes or no? I mean, if I'm in the bed. Right. And you decide to come in, right? Right, right. OK.
And it's hard already. Might as well, right? Might as well. Get it done anyways. But back to our subject that we're yes, yes, I, I think that it's OK for everyone to evolve and do what they feel is right. Don't. Don't stick with one group of people because. Expand your horizons. Right, don't because you feel like, well, I really became close with Mary and John. I'm making up names right now,
but I can't. I became really like I'm best friends with Mary and John, but Mary and John should still be your friend. If you decide that you want to go do porno tomorrow with Shane Diesel or whoever, you know what I mean? Like. Don't. Don't be cowards. Don't be cowards. Don't. And if there's, and I'll say this, don't be cowards and get with a group of people and go, oh, shit, I know I can't hang out these groups, these people from hanging out with them, you
know, we're adults. If your friends try to take ownership of you, like I am not married to another couple, all right. And I think that's one of the things throughout our lifestyle experience that we have definitely, definitely changed some people's behavior because we've had friends early on who go, oh, well, you hang out with those guys, We're not going to hang out with you. And then we're like, OK, we're not going to hang out with you. Oh, well, you know, I thought we were friends.
No, we're not friends. If you tell me who I can't be friends with, just because you don't like those people don't mean I can't like those people. And you know, of course they come around and we we have friends. We have friends who don't like each other, but they respect the fact that we have friends. If you find that you only have one group of friends, that is not either expanding where you're including more couples and more people. I'm not talking about just sexually.
I'm talking about intellectually, all right? And socially, if you're in an area where there's multiple clicks of people and you find yourself in one, especially when you know that there's other people who you could possibly be friends with but you're afraid to friend offend the people who you hang out with, Don't be fucking cowards because then you you you're missing out like. It's like cowardly. It's definitely cowardly. It's definitely cowardly. We've seen so many people who do that.
People are creatures of habits, so that it's harder for you to do something different if you're a creature of habit. I'm very much a creature of habit, so it's harder for me to. And as a creature of habit, you are not stuck in one clique of people. You hang out people who you like. Now, if you wind up in a clique of people because there are no options of people who you like, that's one thing that's different.
But if you are in an area where you know that the only reason you're not associating with that person over there is because this person over here, you know, don't like them, you're being a coward. Like you, you, you are being a coward. And you're being a child. This high school, you're grown-ups. Expand your horizons, get to know new people. We are part of a very, very, very small society and community. And this is what's going to keep
you from growing. Because I feel like there's so many people who we've spoken to who say, oh man, I wish we could do this. Your wife. Why the fuck can't you you? Can do it. Oh, our friends are going to be OK with this, you know hey, we want to come to you and I'm I don't knock him for it. I just feel sorry for him. Hey, we want to come to your party, but you know, it's kind of outside of I know our social circle wouldn't really be cool if we did this.
I don't knock you for trying to well, guess what? We don't have to tell your fucking. Yeah, we're not going to tell on you. We're not going to tell on you, but you know how many times we've had parties where there winds up being three people from that social circle, quote, UN quote, and they're like, oh, wow, you guys come to these parties, too? Yeah. Because you're in another social party where you can't go do that. Expand your horizons. Yeah, exactly.
Talk about it, fantasize about it. If it's not. If it's not something you can handle right away, then talk about it later on down the line. And then also don't be those people who are shitting on the people's dreams and desires. You know, don't, don't be the negative person who is discouraging people from being themselves. Let me give it an example please. So I had someone reach out to me about like race play. Race play is not my thing. It's just my personal preference.
Is not. It's not my personal preference. Did I say that right? It's not. It's not your previous. Not my personal preference. God bless. I can't forget talk, but it's not my personal preference. But I just, you know, like the guy was like emphasizing like OBBC and then some other stuff that like I just and I just told him like, Hey, you know how I like all Dicks? I love BBC, but I like all Dicks and race play is just not my thing. If that's your thing, that's cool.
And I the further the conversation went, the guy kept like pushing, pushing, pushing, like, hey, you know, I, I want to do this. And like, we didn't even talk about playing. We were just literally having a conversation. And I had to hand my phone to Mr. Mocha so that he could see what was happening. And he was like, oh, the guy's asking for this, this, this and
this. And again, it was just not something that I want to do. I don't care if everybody else does that, but it's just not something I've ever really had a desire to do. But if you do that, cool. And maybe he and I told him, like, maybe you can find someone else that 'cause he, I think he was going to be at Mocha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was going to be at Mocha. And I just told him that was not my thing. And it's not something I'm really into.
I, you know, I'll play with you, but just not into that. And we have several friends that are into race play. Do I give a shit that they're into race play? No, but I'm just not going to do it myself, you know that. And you can be comfortable saying. Once again, you can be comfortable saying which you're not into while not. I'm not going to knock you for your fetish like I I I was glad that he was honest 'cause I can
be 100% honest. Had he got me into the bed or in the bedroom and started that I might have. I don't know what I would have done. I probably would have so fucked up, but I would probably wouldn't have said the things he wanted me to say. Yeah, and it would, it would have ruined the experience for you. You know, why not just say what it is, right? And be comfortable in your own
skin? And hey, who knows, you know, 2-3 years down the road you may turn around and go, hey, all of a sudden I'm interested in this, right? And I think it kind of makes you look like an idiot when you were a vocal shit talker about a thing and then all of a sudden you're into it. Because we know people like that. Yes, we know people very much
like that. Later on down the line or people that talk about people that do party favors and you're down the road, we see them doing that same thing. Yeah, going wild. Yeah. But I mean, again, whatever you do, whatever, that's OK. It's OK to do what you do. But just like it was hard, I can't say it was hard. We found our tribe and we keep finding more and more people because we keep evolving. But we still have the same friends that we started with.
I can't say all of them, but close friends are still our friends no matter what our fetish or kink is. And they're aware, and they're OK with it. Yeah, I think you once you, once you give people power to make you feel bad for which you like, once you give them that power, then you, you you're kind of subject to everybody else's win. Well, just like women, some women or men slut shame or whatever and they don't like the word whore or for whatever
reason. If you're not exploring something because there's some PTSD there, of course don't do that. You know, don't push your don't push your boundaries because you because you want to be that uncomfortable. But you know, don't shame somebody else for what they do. But just because there's people that so, for example, vanilla people, they can't understand why you're a swinger. Just the just the basic swinging stuff. Oh, I'll never let my husband
fuck another person. Or oh, I'll, I'll never even just be adjacent to that because they don't understand it. But they're probably every night having a fantasy or in their bathroom jacking off or touching their pussy thinking about something, but they can't tell their spouse. But because they don't understand it. That's a lot of times why people judge. Like there are a lot of, I think times in my life that people
have judged me based on things. And it's because they and I didn't realize until much later in life. It's it's because they didn't understand it. Like, my parents couldn't understand why I married Mr. Mocha 'cause he was of the he was black, he was black. And my mom actually made a comment to me once that if there were, how did she say it? If there were, If you were in a room full of white guys, then all of them wanted you.
You would only notice the black guy is something along that time and those lines. And she told me that I was addicted to big black Dicks. Yes, my mother said. That you're addicted to the big black cock. Yes, but I mean, here's the thing that my mom can't understand it because it's not something she would do.
And I have to say this like, I think for me, one things I will legitimately say that I appreciate it about my wife is if she's in a room full of guys, she's going to choose the one that she's most attracted to. I've seen her in a room full of black guys where she like the white dude like my wife likes, who has the ability to turn her on, you know, which to me is a bigger turn out. Don't get me wrong.
You know, if she sees, you know, two guys, one that's white and one that's black, and they're both fit. They're both no sarcastic and they're both sexy. OK, she's probably going to go with the black dude, but she's not going to fucking, you know, take Urkel over Captain America. Pause. On that I would fuck both of them, thank you. True. True, true. Let's let's not even say that if they're both turning me on the same way, I'll be like, do you
guys, are you guys into MFM? Because we're about to do that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so so I mean, but that's also, I think that's one of the stereotypes that she's always got whacked with. Hey, it is. It was all it was. It was really funny when you know her, her mom said that and you know, fortunately, you know, of course, my wife being herself, found it fucking hilarious. She was offended, but she laughed her ass off about the situation.
You know, because there is a great example of someone saying something and then automatically thinking that they know you, what you want, what you like, and trying to shame you into conforming to what they want, which is something that we'll never do. You know, I mean, I think we found that we're to a place where we just do. It feels good. You know, the only person who the only person whose opinion I'm beholden to is my wife's and
vice versa. You know, outside of that, you know the fucking world is not always the world is her oyster. Yeah, yeah, we've had like I said, it's been an interesting journey. Like the whole the whole time. The Mr. Mocha is definitely he had like a kind of girlfriend. We're going to say kind of girlfriend.
I think it's like probably like this second time in our relationship that he consistently talked to the same person every day, which I think initially I was like, we'll just, we'll throw it all out there. She actually was kind of his ex-girlfriend before we were together. So he started talking to her again and that was definitely, I'm normally like OK with his ex girlfriends, but, and I was actually OK with her.
I just had to get it over myself, 'cause I, you know, I trust that he, he'll do the right thing and if he doesn't, then I watch lots of serial killer shows and he'll be fine. And then I will say even even more for me, like I get, I'm always very excited when Missus Mocha is a part of whatever I
have a part of things. So, you know, one thing that I enjoyed is missus Mocha started taking an interest and engaging like I've always, I've always liked for Missus Mocha to engage females that I, that I interact with, you know, in fact, I'd much rather hurt, you know? Take the reins. Yeah, take the reins, manage it. And I think that there was a point for us where, you know, when she says, hey, what would you like? What turns you on?
If I say that turns me on. And she's kind of like, yeah, OK. But then she actually. I just have to talk myself into stuff that like I wouldn't, I wouldn't be like, oh, I want to do this. But if he, if he says it that it just takes me longer to warm up to the idea like him, he's like, Oh yeah, sure, let's do that. Well, I mean. Yeah, she's she like it.
I'm like you like it. I love it, you know, but then also I think another thing that for for her, she also realized that, you know, if the the way that I like it, you know, she has all, you know, she has a whole lot of power, you know, you, you know, you can manage the situation sometimes. I don't like to listen. Hey, listen, if you're concerned about me dealing with her, how about you just plan everything out and then just. I don't like being the manager.
Bring it, listen. Bring her over When, when I have an erection and then, you know, I can go sleep while you're hanging out with her. And then, you know, so like, that works. That works better for me. That works so much better. And now. Yeah. Like that's kind of lazy. Yeah, yeah. But now you have all, you have all the control of it. So like you have no reason to be uncomfortable because. And I've literally really pushed all my. He's got an erection here.
Come on over. I've literally really pushed my control. I'm OK with that. I like, I like you like kind of controlling your own stuff. I mean like I'm a part of it, but I like 10%. I like being the 10%, not like the 50. Yeah, yeah. I mean, she's comfortable with it now. Like being the 10 though, just 'cause you know, I haven't really been like texting anyone like that or like doing anything until more recently. I started. Talking to some more people and
sexting people, which is actually. 9. I am not normally. Wearing it up. I'm not good at sexting. I'm not good at texting. Like she's good at sexting when she wants. To if no remember, like I used to get texts from like some guys that would be like, oh, what, what, what would they say? Like what, what do you want to do to me or something like that? And I was so bad at it. I would have to respond and be like, can I just like show you when you get here?
Like it was really bad like. I was sorry. No, it was like I was working. I had the kids. Around I was lazy, OK? Mrs. Mocha has a very dirty mind and when she puts her dirty mind to things. I have to be properly motivated. Yeah, if she put listen it, when Mrs. Mocha start talking dirty, you cannot want to get hard. But you're going to get hard. Trust me, I know. No, but I have to have like proper motivation, like wow,
throwing shit. I have to have like proper motivation like and usually The Dirty talk comes with when I'm actually fucking. So it's harder for me to sex, you know? But she can do it, and good. No. When she wants to. No, no, no, no. When she wants to do it, she can handle it. You're right, I can't do it. Unless you. Put your mic up to your mouth.
Unless she's being shy. I'm only shy like initially when I meet meet people and it's only because I don't want to be overwhelming because I know that like one of the like chicks that at work told me that I word vomit, She said. Like you're either really quiet or you vomit a lot of information all at the same time. I. Don't believe her? You don't think so? No. I don't know, you know, I'm really quiet though initially. I don't like to say a whole lot in the beginning.
No, like at work you were vomit when when you're under attack and you finally had enough. But you. You. I feel like I do that though too, like when I'm taught, when I first meet people, I'm just quiet and then I'm like, oh, this is what we're doing. Cool. I I like to just feel the vibes of the room. I don't want to just jump on the horse. Let me see what everybody else is doing. You jump on the horse. I've jumped on some regular daglars too. But you like to jump on the horse.
Sometimes a horse is not a daily driver, No. Anyways, we're rambling, Mr. Mocha. Well, I think that we've got our point across. It's. Conclusion is talk about your fantasies. Don't let other people influence the way you do your lifestyle journey. I mean, we, I think we've kind of had an episode about that too. But don't be ashamed of what you are. If you're a cock, yeah. If you're if you like gangbangs, then have a gangbang. If you, you know anything that you're into, if you like being
fisted, get fisted. Who cares? Who cares what your friends say or whatever? They should like you no matter what. And on that note, we are your host, Mr. and Misses Mocha. This is the O Faces podcast. If you enjoy listening to us, remember you can find us wherever you get your podcast. That's O Faces with AZOFACEZ. And till next time I am Mr. Mocha and. Goodbye from the mochas. Bring it over to this myth so I can see your legs trip.
I got it so easily that you just like a porn of me swimming and when we're all done on a sea.